Well, what a response to yesterday’s post, but before we get into that, let’s talk about some of the action that happened last yesterday.
President of Arsenal Internet, Lord of The Meme, King amongst information elites… Sir David Ornstein, dropped the news that the club had released longtime club medic, Colin Lewin. The man has been with us for 23 years, an incredible length of time. He was Head of Medical Services but was moved on yesterday.
This is sad. I had the privilege of meeting Colin Lewin in 2011 when he gave me and some other bloggers (I met Goonerholic) a tour of the medical facilities. The article is here and it’s still interesting today. I think I was invited, because back in the day, the argument around Wenger mostly centred on injured players, and how bad his luck was/how bad our medical team was. My argument was that injuries were sometimes about luck (impact), but most of our problems were soft tissue and preventable. The problem was Wenger overtraining players and fatiguing them (in the hope our players would be fitter in the last 10minutes), hammering a small squad and not rotating, combined with a lack of interest in using data properly. 3 years later we signed Shad Forsythe who could help with those issues and never looked back.
Anyway, it’s sad to see him go. I really feel for the good people left at Arsenal at the moment. There’s nothing worse than a regime change. Everyone is on edge, bullets come when you least expect it, and it’s terrifying.
Some other media outlets are reporting that Steve Bould won’t sign on under a new manager. I’m not surprised, he’s at the stage in his career where he needs to manage a club, and I’m sure there are plenty that’d be willing to give him a chance.
One thing is for sure, the club are being absolutely ruthless about getting back to the top. Raul Sanllehi is not mincing his vision (maybe the first Darren Burgess bullet with Colin), so I expect to see more changes in the not too distant future, and my hope is they are all for the good.
Again, all of this points towards a club that has a decentralized power structure. We’re not hiring in a manager who will bring 50 of his guys through the back door because he’s a so-called big name. We’re going to run like Barcelona. The Director of Football will make the decisions about the setup on the footballing side. He’ll hire in specialists who will build out teams and report into him. He’ll also be moving on surplus players, another area we’ve barely spoken about in the melee of craziness.
Sven Mislintat will control recruitment and player identification. It’ll be fascinating to understand how he’ll work with the whoever we bring in. He’ll not just be scouting, he’ll be monitoring our first team and making decisions with the coach on who we sign and let go, hopefully using insights gleaned from data sources (something we know Wenger either ignored or was really bad at).
Yesterday’s article went off the rails, the busiest day of the year for the site. The great news is the feedback was incredibly positive. Excellent that it coincided with Allegri declaring he’s likely to stay with Juve unless he’s fired.
This would be a bold move for Arsenal. Arteta could be our Pep Guardiola or Zidane. All the key attributes are there. He’s been a Premier League player, knows the league, has been a captain, is emotionally attached to Arsenal, has a goal of becoming an elite manager (one that he seems to be pursuing with vigour), cut his teeth with Manchester City after saying no to Spurs, he was a critical part of a backroom team that just delivered 100 points in the league.
The Poch said this in his book, Brave New World.
“He will make an exceptional coach,”
This is what Oliver Kay (great read) dug up from City spies.
“Extremely bright, great attention to detail, on the same page as Pep when it comes to how the game should be played,”
“Very good communicator, does a lot of one-to-one work with the players.”
“If you listen to what people say about Mikel, he has helped them get better,” another source says. “He is one of several coaches working behind Pep, but Pep wouldn’t have appointed him if he wasn’t convinced Mikel had some special qualities to bring to the party.
You only have to look at how he presents himself to see that he’s not a water carrier.
You can read snippets of where his head was at when he was 32 years old.
My team-mates are always going “What are you going to do Miki? You’re going to be a manager, you should be a manager!” I know what the job means and I know how hard it is, especially when I look at the boss and see how many hours he puts in here. You need to sacrifice your family all over again, which I’ve done since I was 15. But I would love to manage a squad of players and staff – I’ve got it inside me, it’s true, and I want to do it. First of all I want to make the most of my playing career, because I’m 32 and in this game you never know whether you’ll end up carrying on until 34, 35 or 36. After that, I’m certainly going to stay involved in football because I think I’ve got something to add. I would like to prove myself, and prove my ideas about managing and encouraging people to do things in the way I believe is best.
This was his philosophy 3 years ago.
My philosophy will be clear. I will have everyone 120 per cent committed, that’s the first thing. If not, you don’t play for me. When it’s time to work it’s time to work, and when it’s time to have fun then I’m the first one to do it, but that commitment is vital. Then I want the football to be expressive, entertaining. I cannot have a concept of football where everything is based on the opposition. We have to dictate the game, we have to be the ones taking the initiative, and we have to entertain the people coming to watch us. I’m 100 per cent convinced of those things, and I think I could do it.
Here’s his view on a system.
I think you need to adapt. You can have an idea of a system, but you need to be able to transform it depending on the players you have – how much pace you have up front, how technical your team is, what types of risk you can take and whether your players are ready to take those risks. It’s important to analyse your players because you can’t always play the same way. There have to be different details and changes in how you approach things, and you have to look at how you can hurt whoever you are playing against. Is there something they don’t like to do? If so, we’re going to make them do plenty of it. Then the most important thing for the manager is that, the Friday before the game, you imagine what’s going to happen on the Saturday. And if what happens on Saturday is not what I had planned, then it’s not been good enough from me.
Even back then, he understood you have to work with what you have, you must to pay attention to the details, and the players have to buy into it.
I also thought this John Cross story about Arteta was pretty funny.
He was nicknamed “Coach” by his team-mates during his five years at the Emirates as they could see his determination to move into management.
That nickname was not necessarily meant in the most flattering way — some players thought he was too ‘busy’ and always trying to interfere in decisions.
Firstly, I find it very hard to care about the opinion of many of our players over the last 10 years, we’ve been in sharp decline, anyone willing to help the mess should be given a gold star for effort. Secondly, if you read the Pep book by Ballague, he stated that Pep and Mourinho used to do exactly the same at Bareclona with Bobby Robson, reworking his tactics on the sly.
Mikel will be an entertainer, so we’ll be taking the game to the opposition and focus on buying in players who can dictate the game.
The major difference between then and now is that he’s worked from the ground up with the greatest manager in the world. He’s dealt with big personalities being told they’re surplus, or going to become bit part players. He’s helped identify weaknesses in young upstarts and been credited publicly on improving them. He’ll have been there at the training ground helping Pep identify what needed to happen to deliver on the mission of winning the league in year two, when the whole world was saying they couldn’t do it the beautiful way.
When you put that all down on paper, you might not be 100% sure of what’s coming, but damn, you’ll be excited and you’ll want to give it a go.
Arsenal fans have sat on their hands for the best part of ten years making inane excuses for our slow decline as a club. We’ve bottled countless league titles, we didn’t get out of the last 16 of the CL for 8 years in a row, we signed terrible players, we didn’t sell underperformers, we were consistently out thought by top 6 teams, we never, ever learnt from our mistakes.
- ‘Mate, it’s only June, give it a rest’
- ‘That won’t be the last of our signings, it’s only July’
- ‘You get the best deals at the end of the window’
- ‘No point in moaning, best shut up and support the lads’
- ‘He’ll do something in January’
- ‘SHUT UP AND SUPPORT THE LADS’
- ‘Judge him in May’
- ‘I think he knows what needs to be done’
- ‘Hazard said Gervinho was the best player he’d ever trained with, actually’
Rinse. Repeat.
Arsene Wenger taught us that winning was secondary to values, and we fell for it.
That’s why I know the fans won’t be divided on Arteta. It’s almost impossible not to progress the club because the baseline is so low. Put a system in place, tighten the defence, implement a pressing philosophy, hold players accountable, run proper video analysis, practice how you play at 1-0 up, 2-0 down, how you attack a corner, how you play out from the back, how you break down a deep block, how you switch systems after 10minutes, build a winning culture and rewrite the values of the club to suit the era. (Ryan Mason talking about the things Arsenal haven’t had, and he’s a Hull player)
Arsenal are a mess. If they hire Arteta, they’re hiring a brilliant young coach, and they’re building a team around him.
… and here’s the best point. If he fails, it won’t take 10 years to make a change, and it won’t cost a summers transfer budget to do the deed.
A slightly different scenario, but look at PSG. They just hired Thomas Tuchel, a manager I’ve been purring over since the Mainz days. He’s never won a league title in his career. Why did they sign him? Because he’s a world class coach with elite ideas. They signed him on a two year deal. If it works, they’ll be playing unbelievable football. If it fails, it’ll cost them fuck all. Even the big clubs are turning their backs on ‘winners’, because winning things doesn’t always tell you who is and is not a great coach with the formula to take you to the promised land in 2019.
I also think from a business perspective, in a world of democratised football coverage, clubs are having to work harder for new fans. United has been offering up criminally poor football for 5 years now, it’ll hit their business model at some point, because a ‘brand’ in a fickle world only lasts as long the success is maintained. You’re not a big club if you’re not winning big trophies, and you can only fool the fans with big name signings for so long. If the product is shite, people will eventually stop buying.
Anyway, all very exciting. My nose is bleeding because I’m not used to this much progressive movement at the club.
What a time to be a Gooner… I hope you’re excited about the future because I certainly am.
P.S. Mesut meeting Erdogan for a photo opp? Fucking hell… a real lack of self-awareness when you’re repping Germany as your home country.
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Nice one groovwdaddy.
You aren’t good enough….you are just an Arteta in a big pond.
I hope this Arteta hype dies in this blog and nothing more.
After all the Arsene Wenger mess, we get sold on Arteta?
A player who couldn’t exude leadership by example as a captain?
Fuck this shit.
I hope he doesn’t get the job tbh
Damn!
Gazidis clearly stated that he will be bold with his appointment…
Now, Arteta is very feasible.
I’m on the fence with regards this prospect
“Yesterday’s article went off the rails, the busiest day of the year for the site. The great news is the feedback was incredibly positive.” What bizaare alternate reality do you live in Pedro? Your blog dry humping Arteta yesterday as the next best thing to happen to Arsenal was mired in arguments on the blog all day, more comments imo pointing to the majority on here not wanting us to be Arteta’s first managerial experience. I still firmly believe we need an experienced hand to guide us the next couple years. Not a green (but promising coach) whose never managed… Read more »
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Arteta.
Is he a disciplinarian?
He played with quite a few of these players. Will they respect him?
No Managerial experience.
Fortune favors the bold but would this be too bold at this stage?
Exciting times indeed
To be quite brutally honest this Arteta appointment reeks of gross incompetence and keeping a “yes” man around for Ivan and co to control.
We could be entering the Wenger Mark II years.
This just rings alarm bells and doesn’t provide the clean break from the old set up we needed. This has sapped al lot of my Wenger departure positivity.
These posts are too early for me zzzzzz
Listening to yesterday Arseblog podcast, Andrew and James had a great conversation about their misgivings about Arteta in a very fair and objective way. Long story short, they aren’t keen on his appointment either. Shades of their conversation saying it sort of makes us look Everton level. They also made it a point to acknowledge that most online chatter from Arsenal fans as the odds move in favour of Arteta, is that they see mostly disappointment. (And its not unreasonable position for fans to be in). If this appointment does happen, its all going to fall back on Gazidis’s head… Read more »
This is turning into a farce. Shameful to even suggest someone with NO FUCKING EXPERIENCE of EVER managing ANY team is good enough for Arsenal.
The only conclusion I can come up with is that geezer writing this blog is about to make profit out of Arteta appointment.
Obviously I know nothing … but if Allegri wants autonomous control then it’s a “no, fuck off, fuck you very much” from me. We’ve just come out of a what had long become a tedious dictatorship. The last thing we need is another fevered ego.
As Aubergine says, I think these recent posts have agenda written all over them.
“He played with quite a few of these players. Will they respect him?” that is only one question of many but this will be played out by Gazidis as this is a new model Arsenal will follow with a head coach and not a manager …….they are already pushing this and people of Intelligence are already falling for this ploy but it has to be seen as massive risk taking when all things are considered .This is a man who has not even managed a youth team let alone the apparently 6th richest football club in the world so not… Read more »
Your Comment Herepeople lauged at me when two weeks ago I suggested Roberto Martinez as a Wenger replacement. I bet few would take him now instead of this Arteta crap.
Pedro ‘The problem was Wenger overtraining players and fatiguing them (in the hope our players would be fitter in the last 10minutes), hammering a small squad and not rotating, combined with a lack of interest in using data properly. 3 years later we signed Shad Forsythe who could help with those issues and never looked back.’ I’m not sure about that. I think you’ll find the ‘injury years’ had more to do with the fact we didn’t have the resources to assemble a squad with enough depth to manage playing PL and CL games, let alone FA cup later on.… Read more »
what ever way you try an spin the positives of an Arteta appointment and it seems Pedro is really really trying , it just comes back to the cheap risky (I don’t give a fuck about what the fans think ) option
CC,
You explicitly said Arteta is shinier than Nagelsmann. I replied he is not. I stick to my opinion.
Even if Arteta is the real deal, you can’t say you knew it all along. So play it cool and don’t be bullish about your arguments. NONE OF US KNOW ABOUT HOW GOOD ARTETA IS.
so much for the detailed and thorough screening and processing of candidates for the job
Gazidis really is a slimy prick,obviously Arteta has been the preferred candidate all the while then he should have been brought in asap to start the groundwork for next season,good to see Wenger is no more a shield for their utter cluelessness.
No real focus on the opposition? All about us. Sounds straight from the Wenger handbook that past quote from Arteta in how he would like to see his teams operate. Is this a bold appointment or does it lack real balls in making a complete break away from the Wenger concept? Bould to leave as well? Who is going to work on the defensive side of the game? Does this Mislintat guy have previous for digging up and acquiring defensive gems? Question has to be asked because we all know the Arsenal weaknesses for so long now and they have… Read more »
Wouldn’t be my first choice, but with a proper structure around him, let’s give Arteta a go. Might even start attending games again. Great to see wengers protected dross being culled. WTF is an equipment manager anyway, someone who audits the condition of the cones? Bet Ivan, and probably Josh couldn’t wait to send that lot on their way. Wenger was a leech who allowed other leaches to thrive as long as they never challenged him. Disgusting man, glad these horrible tributes are over. Colin Lewin even. Perhaps the new manager was one of many who had injuries misdiagnosed and… Read more »
This Arteta lunacy is like sying Debbie Mcgee can have a career as a magician, because She was good at assisting Paul Daniels.
Let’s see if the team can break into top four next season. Not going to be easy is it. There is an obvious top six in the league with Arsenal lagging behind of those six. If the team finish fifth or sixth again next season then it’s reasonable enough to see if they can better that the following season. If there is a team that breaks out from out of the top six and Arsenal finish below this position then serious questions need to be asked and an early cull of the new set-up. What cannot be allowed to happen… Read more »
Back to back posts on this Arteta shit. Nice one. Feels like doubling down on the Ivan is not a toothless failure of a CEO, it was all Arsene’s fault. Ironic that a site that drew people to voice anger over the clubs refusal to see Wenger for the failure that he was turns into a mouthpiece for the guy who kept him in the job all those years. On brighter news, we are being linked with Leno (who I have been wanting us to sign for a couple of years now. Get it done Sven. Mahrez wants to come… Read more »
David smith … you probably know this – where some fans do not. Regarding the numerous soft tissue injuries … our back room experts copped the blame. But for years they pleaded for graduated training methods (where training is geared to the individual). Wenger refused. After all how could he be wrong ?? When Shad Forsythe was eventually brought in he said (in the German press) the Arsenal situation he found was like something from the stone age. I won’t go into other key aspects of obstinacy – like non tactics and unachievable game plan. But this was the Arsene… Read more »
I actually cant see the Arteta appointment happening, look at the reaction in recent days. We were led to believe the club wanted a manager to unite the fans, bring them back to the emirates and move the club forward. We can already see that Arteta would not do that. It would be unfair on him, but the second anything goes wrong he would be in big trouble. The chances are we would lose one of our first 10 games, and when that happens the club will feel the anger of the fanbase all over again. Arsenal-Mania are running a… Read more »
It’s Gazidis time.
Show us what you got Gazidis.
Let’s hope it’s not naive Wengerball dressed in different clothing.
Whatever Pedro.
Arteta is a continuation of Wenger; if we appoint him, its certain the Wengerian Cycle will not be broken. Pep is ruthless and a master at winning football matches. If Arteta was so good, so critical to that endeavour, why let him go? When Pep came to England he needed a link, a bridge to this new alien world where fans roar when ‘brutish’ midfielders can destroy the finest of footballing designs. Pep has now won the hearts and minds of everyone in England… Pep has no need for a connection, he is the connection. So Arteta has served his… Read more »
Looking at that big list of managerial names on Sky Sports betting – the only real ‘elite’ manager on that list, realistically available, is Allegri. It’s clear to me that the club are exploring this option. However it remains to be seen whether he would a) want to come or b) fit into the structure of the club ( something a great deal of investment has been put into so is hardly likely to be discarded). Given that Allegri is by no means guaranteed to come – the field then is a lot more muddy and Arteta does seem to… Read more »
Le-grove wrote: This would be a bold move for Arsenal. Arteta could be our Pep Guardiola or Zidane. All the key attributes are there.
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Apart from the fact that he has NEVER managed ANY football team EVER.
I’m firmly in no Arteta brigade. Having said that the guy is really talented. The way he adapted to the DM role was pretty impressive. He was always positionally good, it was his physical limitations and the team structure that made us defensively vulnerable. Getting called names didn’t stop him from giving his two cents, which is very important for a coach. Pep took him in as a English speaking Spaniard that knows the league. He was needed to bridge that gap. He gradually grew into the role. When asked about Sterling earlier this season, Pep mentioned Arteta, which he… Read more »
“Arteta could be our Pep Guardiola or Zidane.”
Big joke… even if I think he might do a very good job – WITH Sven Mislintat hugely involved.
“Steve Bould won’t sign on under a new manager.”
Good (riddance)!!
“If he fails, it won’t take 10 years to make a change”
That is worth a bet!! 😉
“I know the fans won’t be divided on Arteta.”
They already are, you must have missed an episode Pedro…
Anyway, I’m pretty convinced by your post today, so Welcome (back) Mickey!!
(but still, fingers crossed – at least a little bit lo
First time poster here – Firstly, there is no evidence that Arteta is really good, no matter what the author is posting here. Secondly, is Le-Grove trying to maximize ad revenue by being controversy? From what I read in the comments would indicate that most felt that Arteta would be a poor appointment.
I like you blog and read it a lot, but the past two days have been disappointing to say the least.
Pedro
The positivity about Arteta’s appointment exists elsewhere, but sadly not amongst the majority of posters on Le Grove.
The major drawback is not it would seem his coaching talent, but the fact that
he played for Arsenal under Wenger.
Emirates,
I dunno mate I have not seen a lot of positivity on Artea on other Arsenal forums, blogs, and podcasts.
Sure there are people like yourselves who are practically thrilled with the potential appointment but you can already see Arteta just exacerbates divisions in the fan base. This will be made worse if he fails in the job.
Not true at all ES.
As Gambon pointed out Arteta is not the flavour of the month on Arsenal Mania and Online Gooner don’t have much time for him either. Only 2%% of Online Gooner posters want Arteta as the new coach.
It’s thrilling to those who like to see “in-house” though isn’t it lol
We might be recruiting a head coach, but what happens on the pitch determines the financials of the club and the branding of the club world wide. I’ve hired raw talent before as well as experience in management positions, both have worked and both have failed. However, I have never hired raw talent in a management role either in team leader or above where the income revenues can be severely disrupted or damaged by such a hire. For me I’m just happy Wenger has been removed; not from obsession as some night believe, but I saw it as needed for… Read more »
OleGunner
I am not “thrilled” by any potential appointment. Frankly there are very few managers on the planet who are in my book that impressive.
However, the feedback that I get is that Arteta is potentially a very good coach
and that is borne out by both Arsenal and Manchester City wanting to recruit
him for that role when he retired as a footballer.
Far too much of the negativity posted on here is based on either prejudice or
his previous association working under Wenger.
Akilan being praised for your coaching on one individual player in one aspect of the game that being offensive would seem a bit limited no?
Arteta may prove to have a good overall footballing brain as well but to term him as an excellent coach at this stage when all we have heard is coaching in this limited aspect would seem a bit presumptuous.
I see a lot of people mentioning the fact the current squad might not respect Arteta or listen to him. Also seen lots speaking of the fact the players used to call him ‘Coach’ on a wind up. Well won’t it be funny that he might actually become their ‘Coach’ very soon, and boot them out of their comfortable and complacency-filled careers. All the more reason for him to come back and stick two fingers up at those that won’t work their socks off and play hard. Remember, Pep and Zizou had much bigger egos to deal with. And frankly,… Read more »
If Arteta was that influential then why was the Arsenal team bog standard when he was at the club…
I’ve relaxed my all things Arsenal embargo (based on the hunting channel aired by Kroenke) as this historical moment plays out. I too feel so excited at feeling like a supporter of a properly functioning football club again.
What I did want to say though was, reading your daily blogs, I realised how much I miss your site. Insightful, honest, not befuddled by sentimentality and very funny. That you do it every day for no financial reward says eveything about your love for the game and Arsenal. Please keep it coming.
If he keeps that three day growth then I’m all aboard the arteta train!
Great post Pedro,I’m on board with giving arteta a go,why not??
Guardiola would never release a staff member if he was key to City’s success.
Well it looks like the ‘suits’ had the Emirates on lockdown over Mikel bloody Arteta,or more likely, it was known long ago that Arteta was the man and they were merely stringing us along with the Allegri bullshit.
As I said from the start, the way Gazidis has appointed Mislintat made me very skeptical that Allegri was ever an option.
They quite clearly want a young eager to please guy that accept whatever coaching structure is imposed on them, with Mislintat taking on an even bigger role than before. Almost a quasi-coach himself.
Protests must begin with immediate effect.
The cretinous board must be ousted..
Yeah the whole set-up now is groomed for an Arteta like coach.
Arteta it is.
The set-up is not geared up for an appointment like Ancelotti or Benitez.
They will just have to be judged on what they do in the transfer window.
We will see the true worth of this Mislintat guy.
Or Allegri for that matter.
“Protests must begin with immediate effect.”
LOL
That seems to be all Arsenal fans are good for these days …PROTEST
Might i ask who your choice for manager is and why you are a 100% sure he will succeed
Arteta is now short odds on with all the bookies and some very short odds on pricdes. No silly punter prices to be seen anywhere.
It is done.
Arteta is new coach of Arsenal.
Rejoice.
Im pretty sure Arteta still uses 75p tubs of wet look gel.
As Redtruth says, protests must start immediately.
Another day another Arteta debate. This club just loves any excuse not to compete with the big boys
If someone like gambon agree with someone like Redtruth, I guess that Le Grove could become a really explosive place in the near future…
@Marko, maybe we could take a different look at our situation : at the moment, we are far from being able to compete with them, so maybe we should rebuild a little, for a start ??
I tip my hat off to Ivan Gazidis – dethrones supremely powerful Wenger to become the new king. Snallehi, Sven and Arteta are his new lieutenants. It seems he had chosen Arteta to be Wenger’s successor long ago. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was him who advised Arteta to become Pep’s no 2 to boost up his average CV.
Emirates, That jab about posters being negative on Arteta due to past Wenger association or prejudice is quitecondescending. People are averse to him because he has zero managerial experience and the job at hand at Arsenal is massive. There’s no indication that he is in any way ready for it besides some nice platitudes from Guardiola. In essene, Arteta has nothing tangible to show why he could be great for the job. Of course he could turn out to be a miracle worker but for some fans that is an unlikely scenario. Is it just that hard for you to… Read more »
Marko
“Another day another Arteta debate. This club just loves any excuse not to compete with the big boys”
Values dear chap. Values.
Play up, play up and play the game.
And they can do it that’s the thing especially when we get views on here that it doesn’t matter if the side loses football matches. As long as they lose the “right way” and not only that deride other clubs for the way they win football matches.
After Belgium win the World Cup, everyone will be saying we should’ve hired T14….
Marko
Thats the sad thing.
I think with this appointment, the club are basically accepting that we dont want to be competing with City, Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool.
We will catch Spurs eventually due to financial superiority, but we are waving goodbye to being a big club.
We have to hope we get lucky with some very strong purchases a la Dortmund or Monaco.
Ivan’s next out the door
Would it be Wenger style if we pinched Poch….or would Klopp be better??
This is why you need football men on board level people with bigger voices speaking up. Someone somewhere must be telling them this is a bad idea it’s too great a risk
Whats Pochs availability?
If Chelsea want him than that means he wants to leave surely?
lol Claude from Arsenal Fan TV is going to do his nut.
He was adamant that he wanted a name manager.
Here comes your 19th nervous breakdown.
But then he will gather himself and say let’s see what he can do. Let’s get behind him.
Can’t say anything different really can you.
Guys, a bit of perspective here. Wenger has been in the last 10 years a bad manger for Arsenal and he had experience. Bags of it. The club is going for a structure where the head coach becomes an intricate part of that structure. Whilst it will be nice to have a Jardim or Allegri , these guys may not fit in with the new structure or may have demands the club may not meet. Giving the above I can see why the club may lean on an Arteta appointment. He has worked a full season under Pep, the best… Read more »
Pedro
Whats going on with you? This agenda pushing seems off and WHOs Rallying behind Arteta? Weird. Also didnt you see the difference between Gary and Colin it was like night and day. I assume Wenger never changed the training so Colin stands out. Things got better when shad arrived Just because you met him doesnt make him good.
Ishola,
Yeah thats the thing. Ultimately the club can appoint a league 3 coach from Uzbekistan and we’d have no option other than supporting the new man (#shuttupandsupporthelads too)
The great thing this time is, there is no hiding place for Gazidis >:)
Players that Arteta has played with:
Cech
Ospina
Martinez
Jenkinson
Bellerin
Koscielny
Monreal
Chambers
Elneny
Cazorla
Ramsey
Wilshere
Ozil
Iwobi
Welbeck
It will be very interesting to see what happens to these guys, because most of them should not be at the club, let alone the first team.
This is why you should appoint someone that is completely neutral.
Wouldnt surprise me to see far too many of these guys still at Arsenal.
anyone seen this from yesterday?
http://arsenaltruth.squarespace.com/arsenal-truth/2018/5/14/legrove-puts-forward-the-case-for-mikel-arteta-but.html?lastPage=true&postSubmitted=true
Always thought Arteta was a bit wet on the pitch . Never much of an authoritive captain, and I don’t think he commanded the respect of others in a way that Veira or Adams did. And other players were kinda taking the piss with that ‘ coach ‘ nick name. I dunno , he obviously talks a good game , ( but all That was quoted in the article was pretty standard coaching talk , nothing ground breaking there) the board want a yes man . It makes sense that they would gamble on him . I would prefer Vieira… Read more »
I don’t think a lack of head coaching experience is a problem. The modern trend of sports management has been to identify smart communicators. Of all the MLB managers hired before the current season, only one had managed in MLB before, and he was chosen to manage a team that is tanking/rebuilding. Big money, big media teams like the Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies hired managers with zero MLB management experience. The Yankees hired a guy who went from being a player to being a broadcaster to being the manager of the Yankees, with all the scrutiny and expectations that… Read more »
Gambon, there’s only one definite (Jenkinson) I’d agree with on that list – didn’t think he was in contract as it was….oh yeah, possibly Ospina too.
Maybe his World Cup exploits will attracts some buyers
It’s disturbing seeing Peter trolling his own site.
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Arteta’s Footballing CV
2016-2018
Part of the coaching staff at Man Citi, worked under Pep Guardiola.
Duties Include
Taking morning roll call/ Helping with training bibs/ setting up of cones/ aiding training drills (tieing shoelaces)/ organising post-training (satisfactorily collecting and storing balls, nets, cones etc)
Managerial experience| NONE
Pedro
You’ve become delirious with self-generated excitement.
You’ve also lost your objectivity and you’re just churning out soft propaganda pieces
I still love you bro but it seems you’re determined to turn Wenger’s exit into frolicking disaster.
“And they can do it that’s the thing especially when we get views on here that it doesn’t matter if the side loses football matches. As long as they lose the “right way” and not only that deride other clubs for the way they win football matches.”
No offense Ishola but you talk like a proper stoke fan.
“Arteta has zilch media appeal or interest (except his hair!)”
Some of you write the stupidest things.
You can hear the drum beats in the background and hear the footstamps.
That’s Pedro dancing In the rain 🙂
What a total shite some of the posters are spouting here. there is no guarantee that any coach will succeed or fail for that matter. If the club want Arteta its because they firmly believe that he is the right man. To say that he will fail without him even being appointed is as stupid as the endless defense of wenger by the AKB’s. Money wise the club cannot fail in the appointment of a new manager/coach and saying that they are hiring on the cheep is plain stupid. Last thing they want is empty seats by November. hence they… Read more »
Victorious
”No offense Ishola but you talk like a proper stoke fan.”
I think you mean to say Vic that I don’t talk like a Wengerite.
‘ If the club want Arteta its because they firmly believe that he is the right man. ‘
Spoken like a true halfwit.
The same club that believed until 2018 that Wenger was the right man? Why should we trust these decision makers?
@Mfaber
“the coach as a corporatized functionary”
haha awesome post there
We’ve had the WOBS
We’ve had the AKBs
And now we have the KNOBS
Marko. Gambon. Dissenter. Ruth and the rest….. All KNOBS…..
Know Nothing Only Bull Shit.
Looks like the party is over for the KNOBS…
First the elation and now the deflation… Hilarious.
GoonerinNY
He also then kind of contradicts himself by saying we have to find what the opponent dont like to do and make them do it again and again to exploit their weakness. So he is going to study the oppositions weaknesses.
Pierre
You’re letting yourself down
Why is it that you fall in line so easily?
Could we just stop it wit this narrative that the hiring of Arteta will work out in the end because well Pep rates him and after all whoever knew of Arsene Wenger before he came to Arsenal? It is a very agenda driven, disingenuous point of view and not based on reality. Wenger, although, he was an unknown in England, he had a track record before he came to the Arsenal. If the club wants a fresh start, a young manager with a similar track record, the person they should be looking at and hiring, are people like Nagelsmann, Marco… Read more »
Gazidis is just a slithery corporate shrill. Aren’t you all concerned that we are going from a mega dictator to an all-controlling CEO? He’s set up this charade of a manger’s search when he knew there was going to be one freaking outcome. They will wait until the day before the CL to drop the news. This is a power grab by Gazidis. He’s set it up so that he won’t ever be the erosion that takes the fall if it goes bust. It will be the DoF that will, get sacked. They have a manager who’s just a puppet… Read more »
*with… Arsenal
Betting suspended on Arteta now with some bookmakers.
Lots of chatter saying Thu/Fri reveal.
Seems to be it – let’s just hope he is the genius he is being made out to be!
Pierre is still upset his lord and savior has left.
So Pedro knows how Arteta will do things before he’s managed one single game? Any proof? Or are you just making up shit for your agenda. I sure hope you’re getting paid for this rubbish yellow journalism.
Akilan
“CC,
You explicitly said Arteta is shinier than Nagelsmann. I replied he is not. I stick to my opinion.“
Did I though….
“Nagelsmann has no track record at a big club, playing or coaching. I really don’t see him being a shiny option opposed to Arteta.“
…or did I simply suggest Nagelsmann isn’t streets ahead as was being suggested.
Go on, give it one more glance.