Finally, we have something more to talk about than the golden 4-5 managers I’ve been tracking these past few weeks. Spanish media has linked us with the Basque manager Unai Emery, who has departed PSG after failing to move them to the next level in the Champions League.
Arsenal fans are starting to come to terms with the reality that Allegri is a dream that might not have much reality to it. I have no basis for saying that deal is dead outside the fact he still has unfinished business with Juventus, his press mutterings indicate he’ll be there next season, and his sporting director saying he thinks Juve will come to a solid agreement when they speak this summer.
FOOTBALL IS MAD FAM, so don’t rule anything out, but I think he’s a sexy damp dream too far this season…
That means we have to be real with what’s available on the market, and also start to tune ourselves into the brief that Ivan’s hawking around Europe…
- Rejuvenate a club that’s lost its way
- Bring a broken squad together around a new footballing philosophy
- Be an actual coach: instilling discipline, tactical awareness plus out and out winnertivity™
- Do a lot with a little: purse strings will be tight blud
- Suck it up in a management structure where you’ll not have full control
- Sell Ospina
That’s why Emery is interesting. The man beat Madrid with Almeria (more here) leading them to a top half of the table finish. He consistently took Valencia to 3rd place. No one talks about Spartak Moscow. Then he took Sevilla, a selling club, won 3 Europa League titles in a row, the last one beating Liverpool in Klopp’s first half season. He’s a deep thinker, super pragmatic and his best work has been with teams that are in the shitter, or just skint.
One of the big critiques of him at PSG is the players didn’t care for him. He was deemed passive.
‘There is no fear of rebuke for poor displays or selfishness as a significant chunk of the first team will be picked no matter what. As a result PSG lack any semblance of rigour or discipline and players dally in possession and struggle to find any intensity.’
Arsenal is a mess, but we’re still bigger than Sevilla. Could Emery manage man-monsters like Ozil?
Or, do issues like this sit at the owner’s feet? PSG pride mega names over the proper casting of personalities. Remember, not even Carlo – the master of egos – could manage effectively there.
The other question is: if he can’t make PSG European Champions, how is he going to make us special?
This is something I think about a lot (twice a day at least), management is a flip of a coin at the highest level. Pep G has fucked the Champions League twice in a row for City, and he never made a final with Bayern Munich. Does that make him a bad manager, or just unlucky? I also think there’s something in the idea that PSG might be so dominant in Ligue 1, they lose their edge when they play a proper team because they’re coasting most of the season.
This is the madness of football, because he failed badly at PSG, fans won’t want him. Though take a moment to look back on PSGs style of play this season, it’s hard not to be impressed, until you realise they dropped £300m on talent to win a league and a cup.
Anyway, back to the list of items CEOs look for in a modern manager:
- A footballing philosophy the CEO and the fans can buy into (which is why I’m amazed Mourinho is still at United)
- A coach who has the charisma and passion to transmit that vision to the players (which is why all the Twitter muppets who used ‘pashun’ as a derogatory snipe at English fans are eating their hat now every hipster manager is a touchline gangster)
- A leader who can make the players better, get bums on seats and elevate the club in a saturated global football market (which is why you’re increasingly seeing stable managers who win ugly moved on for the folk who are a little bit more ambitious about putting on a show)
You’ll have to let me know whether you think Emery can deliver on the above.
Finally, before I go. There was a lot of debate yesterday after I gave Mesut a roasting online. My take on his agent’s comments are as followed.
Keown has won 3 PL titles. 3 FA Cups. A Euro trophy. He’s an Invincible.
Who the f*ck is his agent to plough into an actual legend of the club?
Mesut Ozil isn’t a legend. I don’t care about his POTY with Germany. I don’t care about his chances created record. I don’t care about his World Cup win.
He’ll always be a luxury player who never really delivered on what we wanted. He’s not a warrior. He’s rarely been a leader (though he’s shown he can be both the latter when he fancies is). He almost never shows up in the big games. He disappears in the second half of every season, even when he’s rested.
I find it amazing that on the one hand, we’re complaining that our strikers don’t get any service, and on the other hero-ing Mesut as a chance creator. We literally have two of the most potent strikers in Europe lining up for us and we’ve lost all our away games this year. Which is it? A lack of finishers? Or a lack of service?
Back to Mesut, he has no right to pop off at Martin Keown, who certainly doesn’t have had the talent of the German, but he had 10x the heart, 10x the commitment, and the trophies to back it.
There has never been a question around Martin’s dedication, the man has never taken a day off before the season was out for a sore back, he’s never ducked an away leg at a team that might kick him, and though he may have kissed the ring of Wenger over the years and been an enabler, it’s mostly because he’s so desperate to impact the team he loves.
If you don’t quite comprehend why Martin Keown is a more important player than Mesut Ozil, you never watched him.
Keown is a legend. Also worth noting that even when his career was coming to an end, he’d have been working with the younger defender, passing on the knowledge, helping them through the Invincibles season.
Ozil doesn’t measure up for Arsenal. World Cups don’t matter in the debate about Ozil. Messi and Ronaldo, two of the GOATs, have never won the World Cup.
Too many people just don’t get it… Mesut doesn’t care about Arsenal. Europe knows it, that’s why no one bar Arsenal made an offer for his services.
He’ll always be remembered as a supremely gifted talent that didn’t have the stomach to elevate Arsenal.
That’s me done, see you in the comments.
Marc
I bear no malice to anyone i see us all as victims in this. As you say its over. We start afresh and its a nice feeling. It’ll be interesting to see how the conversation on LeGrove develops under a new manager.
Clear to see Wenger loves the club and believed what he was doing was right. What I just cannot wrap my head around is that he watches football religiously in his spare time, why oh why he couldn’t see the issues in how we defended ie the high line, fullbacks bombing on etc and sought to rectify it either with a change in tactics or additional help from other coaches etc If he wrote a book I would be very interested to read any section about Keown and Boulds input on improving defensive results at various times during his tenure,… Read more »
Just need to say that during the banter years Santi was by far and away the most enjoyable player. Technically and heart wise he was a fucking beast.
Despite the shite we watched, I am grateful I got to watch him brighten the turd around him.
Salute you santi
The last thing these pansies need is a non-disciplinarian manager.
RegardIng Keown and Ozil. Ozil is exactly the same player he was when we bought him. He’s always been finesse and always will be finesse. Many on here said as much when Wenger went for him and idiot Arsenal fans danced outside the Emirates because Wenger finally actually spent some money. EPL is not a league for finesse players.
You don’t buy a Ferrari to go off- roading.
It’ll be interesting to see how the conversation on LeGrove develops under a new manager.”
The current AKBs will be the new XOB and give new manager 10% of the rope they gave Wenger lol
Tits
Your probably right i hope its not that way. I suppose if you cant look objectively at the state were in right now you would believe the new manager should hit the ground running. I see it as a minimum 3 year before were challenging in the league and 5 to be contenders in europe. Ill view the new manager in that light. Not to say i wont dig him out from time to time if need be.
TitsYour probably right i hope its not that way. I suppose if you cant look objectively at the state were in right now you would believe the new manager should hit the ground running” Lol its ironic because all of the excuses that got pulled out of arses for the last 14 seasons will suddenly get switched around. Their cult leader just got ousted. They’re not happy lol The inability for the silly to not see common sense is amazing. Even now there are posters still mourning the loss of Wenger even though he’s been a forking disaster for over… Read more »
Aubergine
I know who i am. Did you only just start supporting the club when Wenger joined? Stockholme syndrome to the very end. Anyone affected by his dictatorial ways is a victim as it is with all dictators. Despite the attempted brainwashing im still capable of critical thinking just like all those who found reason to stay away. Youll be saying their not true fans and the empty stadium brought shame on the club world wide next.
Aubergine
Ignore my posts its not rocket science.
Gunner2301 “When we struggle to find an excuse for his odd decision and behaviour we fail to consider he might be struggling mentally, which would explain a lot and I don’t mean Alzheimer’s or anything like that but character traits or flaws which prevent him taking an alternative path or colours his decision making.” Urhmmm,struggling hard myself if you’re all that upstairs,trying so desperate to discredit the obvious achievements of Wenger using the most ridiculous and laughable tactic of a mental disorder coupled with this empty rant of yours led me to believe just one thing…you’r a TROLL,a very dim… Read more »
Victorious We are not denigrating AW for his early successes in the early years. On the contrary we loved him for it as he did give us great football! Something all our rivals feared. But AW did not make the push required when football started modernising. Instead he fell back on his laurels and thought that his winning ways were impervious to the changes in coaching. Unfortunately, as some of us have seen in the last 10 years to recently, was a slow decline where by the end, the football we were watching bore no resemblance to what we experienced… Read more »
France does not have a competitive league because their all best players play abroad.
I think there is a misconception on here regarding ozil and his supposedly poor performances this season . Although stats are not everything it is important to remember that to score a goal you would normally need a team mate to create the chance to score…. In all the leagues in Europe this season Mesut ozil is 3rd for chances created ..which means,there are only 2 players in the whole of Europe that has created more chances than Ozil in league matches and let me remind you once again in case you have forgotten…..TO SCORE A GOAL YOU NEED SOMEONE… Read more »
If Jorginho ends up in City I swear…we’ve literally been linked with him for about 4/5 years. Dithering at its finest
And before someone reacts by saying that ozil is lazy , I could quite easily find a stat to prove otherwise , so don’t even bother .
Great player. 9 assists last season 8 this and he scores about 5 goals a season but he creates a fuck tonne…
Marko
Yeah you’re right …it’s a pity that someone who, as you say,creates a ton of chances had strikers like welbeck ,Walcott and giroud this season who only scored one tenth of the chances he created.
Hopefully ,aubamayang , mhkitarean and lacazette can convert 20% of the chances he creates next season and he will deservedly break the assist record .
I’m sure marko, you being a genuine Arsenal supporter, will be hoping this will be the case as it will help the club to acheive the success all genuine Arsenal supporters want.
Gunner 2301 Well said. Less than 24 hours till that greedy senile cunt is fucking gone forever! Finally we get our club back. Love watching the akb fucktards throw their hissy fits. You’d think they just lost an election to Trump. Go scream at the sky halfwits. Or just fuck off back to Untold so you can go chortle Atwood’s ballsack.
KFC
Very eloquently put………how much is a bargain bucket these days?
Ozil is a weak crosser and a poor finisher.
Ozil should be doing much more than assists lol
I’m looking for a more complete player than a one trick pony cunt like Ozil.
Thankfully that sick twisted deranged old man’s tyranny will soon come to an end.
Ozil is a luxury player who as is evident from our results not suited in a team like Arsenal….
Not sure if anyone has seen this – http://metro.co.uk/2018/05/12/arsenal-can-expect-mikel-arteta-succeeds-arsene-wenger-7540262/
Arteta describing what he would be like as a manager – literally says everything we want to hear and it was 4 years ago ….. interesting
Mystic and Charlie I see where you’re coming from but I can’t personally agree If you can see that you’re tearing the club’s fan base in half. Our own fans at each otger’s throats on a daily basis. If you can see we’re becoming a literal embarrassment in world football 15-3 over our last 3 games with Bayern, planes flying banners over the club, dropping so many defeats to shit teams, criticized roundly by the media, opposition fans begging you to stay, getting fewer and fewer league points – the list as you know is virtually endless – then how… Read more »
I don’t doubt that he thinks he’s an arsenal fan mind because he’s deluded as hell and he obviously has a strong connection with the club
But we could lose every game for the rest of eternity and I can’t believe for one second he’ll be losing sleep over it
Well there I was, bells ringing on the blower from a FWB asking if I was hungry as she made too much grub, count me in then. Hopped on the motorbike and arrived 8 minutes later with my fork and spoon. Polished off the bowl of supernoodles when she asks if I’d seen her redecorated bedroom, be rude not to look… So I’ve given the dog a bone and basking in the post-cotial warmth when she asks “would you like a beer?” “Just the one then” I reply, and off she goes to rummage up the nectar. I turned on… Read more »
Some seem to think i will take 3 to 5 years to start competing for the elite trophies… I disagree. I don’t believe the new manager should be treated any different to Wenger. He will have a quality strike force to work with who will create and score goals for fun.. No additions needed unless he wants a wide player (mahrez) to improve our quality on the break. It will all be about recruitment in midfield and defence. If he gets it right and we hit the ground running next season then I don’t see any reason why we can’t… Read more »
Good post Pierre
It seemed the entire process is just smoke screen to install Arteta and manager You can already see Arsenal friendly journalist preparing the fan base for this odious choice. Its not like we just win the league few seasons ago like Guardiola at Barca or Zidane [Real just won the CL]. We are almost 40 points behind the league winners [equivalent to 13 games behind] and haven’t won an away game in yahoos calendar year. Yet the Arteta crowning ceremony is just chugging along. Arsenal; will go from being a pre-retirement him [for Wenger] to a cache for Arteta. Good… Read more »
Pierre that’s a good post and you may well be right but I think we need quite a few stars to align for it to play out that well I agree that city will be less dominant next year. I also think of our defense and mf improves notably we will do vastly better but we need the top team to get worse and is to get vastly better without the other top 6 also having a brilliant season. Could happen but it’s too many ‘ifs’ in my opinion And dissenter i feel completely the same about Arteta but maybe… Read more »
Two flat tyres*
“Some seem to think i will take 3 to 5 years to start competing for the elite trophies… I disagree.” “I don’t believe the new manager should be treated any different to Wenger.” Oh good, then wait 14 years for EPL trophy, and zero accountability as well as continuing to lower the bar for expectancy where top 4 is still a trophy. The new manager can lie and spin his way through his tenure and continue to be humiliated in Europe. All this while Europe’s elite and the PL top 6 strengthen their teams. Sounds about right from you and… Read more »
Interesting:
“Billionaires who want more: As Big Six push for bigger share of TV cash, Sportsmail reveals the extent of their domination over rivals”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5721811/Premier-Leagues-Big-Six-push-bigger-share-TV-cash.html#ixzz5FLZKOxSe
Wengerball
https://youtu.be/w8PD89t9SGM
But yeah have to agree, we can’t treat the next manager like wenger. Is because we’ve been too good to wenger that this farce has been dragged out so long
China Though the gap looks massive between us and city, the same could be said for the others chasing city who are between 19 and 27 points behind. We are 37 points behind and though it looks impossible, the positive side of me believes that it can be done. Our home form is up there with the best, the new manager has to reverse our away form. Part of it is a confidence thing away from home and part of it is our failure to to play any real counter attacking football.. This has to change. Liverpool and city play… Read more »
Tony
Have a read of my earlier comment again and you may come to a different conclusion to what I was saying.
I am giving you the benefit of doubt as you are obviously not stupid and I do understand that whilst Wenger is still manager you will find it difficult for your opinions on all matters concerning arsenal not to be influenced by your obsession of him…
Give it about 6 months and we will probably see some balanced views from you.
China “Is because we’ve been too good to wenger that this farce has been dragged out so long” Not sure about that… For the last 8 years or more it has always seemed like he was one bad result from a media and fan backlash. If you look at a manager like Pochettino and then the media and fans are giving him an easy ride which Wenger has never had. Basically Pochettino is saying exactly the same things as Wenger was saying ten years ago and the media and fans are OK with it. The fact that Harry redknapps record… Read more »
Redknapp.. 2 top 4 finishes.
Pochettino… 3 top 4 finishes.
Redknapp.. 2 fa cup semis
Pochettino… 2 fa cup semis
Redknapp.. 1 league cup final defeat
Pochettino… 1 league cup final defeat
Redknapp.. One champions league quarter final.
Pochettino.. One round of sixteen quarter final.
Oh and no trophies for Redknapp or Pochettino.
Whichever way you look at this season our performance level particularly away from home has been awful and justification for curtailing Wenger’s contract. It has been blindingly obvious that the club’s DEFENCE is brittle conceding critical and unnecessary goals all season. Some were poor decision making and others buckling under pressure. The most blindingly obvious conclusion was the lack of stability and constant turnover of personnel. Most successful teams know what is their first choice defence and play it as often as possible. That has not happened at Arsenal. The only player in back 5 who was a shoe in… Read more »
Pierre
Why are you comparing us to spurs?
First of all Poch hasn’t been their manager for 22 years.
Secondly spurs are a smaller club with less resources and have been punching above their weight for a while now, we have done the opposite…
They have been spending a decent amount on players occasionally but only because they have been selling well. They’re also not afraid of spending what they have and to show ambition.
This maybe explains to you why he gets an easier ride from the media than Wenger.
We have been linked to Koulibaly (53m) and Evans (3m) again this morning, yes please.
Evans will do as a stop gap and to help with the HG quota, and Koulibaly is just a beast of a CB. Sell Mustafi and Chambers and it would only cost us 10-15 mil, a bargain to fix our defensive issues.
Stroller
Totally agree.. A settled defence is the key.
All our title winning sides had a settled defence going right back to the double winning side of 70/71.. pat rice, frankie mclintock, Peter Simpson and Bob mcnab with Bob Wilson in goal…
It’s all about building up an understanding at the back plus of course, protection from centre mid is essential and that must be addressed.
FL
History shows that spurs will always get an easier ride in the media compared to Arsenal but my comparison could have easily been with Liverpool who also get an easy ride from the media and they haven’t won the league for 28 years though they have had a good champions league run this season.
pierre
Wenger is leaving, get over it. allegri in please.
give the man at least 100m pounds to work with, along with the freedom to sell who he wants…
Pierre I won’t argue about spurs or pool getting an easy ride because that much is true and it’s annoying But that easy ride they get isn’t important to us and what we’re doing. Wenger got criticized a lot but evidently not enough or he wouldn’t have been give enormous power in the face or poor results at one of the world’s richest and most prestigious clubs So whilst sure Poch and co may be over rated, that’s no justification to be soft on wenger. Wenger fucked up entirely of his own accord and the chickens have only finally come… Read more »
One thing is true is that spurs have never been genuinely likely to win the league regardless of how much the media have loved to talk of them as competitors
China
At the end of the day, the fault lies with kronke for allowing Wenger to have such power.
A stronger owner would have pulled the reins in much earlier..
It won’t happen again that’s for sure.
I’m sure the fans will be looking forward to the future with anticipation…
Just being prepared for the start of the season will be a bonus.
‘Just being prepared for the start of the season will be a bonus.‘
Totally agree with this sentiment,just reading that comment you realise how mismanaged the club became over the years.
Expectation had become desperation at the recent farcical transfer windows,even before a ball had been kicked.
I for one am excited as hell regardless of my preferences about who dies or doesn’t come For the first time in a decade and hopefully for the decades to come, we don’t have to resign ourselves to a bland, repetitive form of disappointment. Even if we have a bad season, maybe the next one will be our time I can’t fucking wait. It’s that resignation of knowing that we’ll never be competitive again and that you know who appeared to be on a lifetime contract that was so exasperating For the first time since forever, next season will be… Read more »
I’m also ok with bould staying on. Set him loose on the defense now and let’s see him make obvious progress just like before he got stifled
Obviously the next manager will pick the formation and bould or another def coach will have to work in those parameters but 1/3 or more of our goals come directly from bad decision making and brain farts.
These issues bould can get to work on immediately
Can’t help but feel Arteta is a smokescreen, if we don’t get Allegri i wouldn’t be surprised if its somebody off radar completely.
Allegri was rumoured to be taking english lessons which could mean anything but its been reported he was all but set to take over if Wenger didn’t sign last year.
China I’be heard these “excited because next season will be different” comments and it feels me with some dread. Of course, next season will be different because we areWenger-less for the first time since 1996. We have to be careful not to make it negatively eventful by signing the wrong manager. If the new manager starts the season the way Wenger finished this season, then all hell will break loose. We could be the laughing stock of English football and Wenger’s mediocrity would look like gold. That’s what an Arteta management will look like. He’s only managing specific aspects of… Read more »
China
You really want to set Bould loose on the defense
How many fails do you need before you call something a bust
God have mercy.
How about we keep all the assistant coaches too?
Jeeeeeezus.
Pierre
“Our home form is up there with the best, the new manager has to reverse our away form.”
We got got smashed by both Manchester clubs at the Emirates….lol
Allegri and other top manager will want to bring their own staff of 4-6 assistants. Arsenal still have to pay Wenger and his merry band of assistants up to 15-20 million if wages next season while accommodating th e new manager. I fear we are going to make a cheap choice to save money next season. That’s the point AlexanderHenry has been making for years. I wonder why Wenger, the self declared Mr Arsenal didn’t decline the last year pay-off since he “resigned his position”. It just confirms that the old bloke was fired politely and he’s taken his pound… Read more »
The only reason the Defence looks more wobbly than usual is because the Midfield is so decrepit.
The sun aka skunk: Allegri wants Arsneal to commit to £200 transfer budget this summer before signing a deal.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6272342/juventus-boss-max-allegri-200m-transfer-kitty-arsenal/
I know it’s cheap tabloid lies but it’s remotely plausible that a top manager will seek assurances from the owner before leaving the pinnacle of Italian football.
Dissenter mayb you’re right which is why he’s near the bottom of my list. I really don’t want him.
But he may surprise us. Hopefully
We can only hope the new boss takes his job seriously and not treat each game with scant regard for the opposition like the previous incumbent.
Dissenter it’s widely reported that bould was only given a month to two with the defense after he became assistant coach and we got a lot of plaudits for being watertight defensively – then wenger did his usual power play and stopped bould from getting involved with the defense and it immediately fell apart never to recover
Bould’s entire record with our defense is about 2 months of good work. You can’t blame him for the rest of he wasn’t allowed to continue with them
Redtruth
“We can only hope the new boss takes his job seriously and not treat each game with scant regard for the opposition like the previous incumbent”
You’ve certainly got that right.
It’s safe to say assistant manager at arsenal has been nothing more than a ceremonial post for the last 2 decades
China In fairness to Wenger. I don’t believe those stories are true. Bould is part of theWenger legacy, for better or for worse. He sits quietly next to the man while earning his 2 million annual wages. Just because he was a good defender in his time doesn’t mean he knows how to transmits ideas or think critically about the game. You don’t think Wenger would have turned to him more when the shite started hitting the fan? Nope the defensive failures aren’t all on Wenger, Bould is just as clueless. It’s got to be a fresh start for me.… Read more »
Steve Bould’s salary was about £30k weekly before the last contract tha bumped Wenger’s salary to 10 million.
He’s been well compensated, for what exactly?
Top ten debates 2017/18 season on le grove:
1. Wenger leaving
2. Neymargate
3. Xhaka
4. Wilshere
5. CC v Bamford
6. Refs and VAR (Pierre’s world)
7. New manager
8. Transfers
9. Kronke
10. Ozil
Arsene thinks that Arsene knows so I absolutely 100% believe he never seriously requested bould’s serious input
Samesong
You forgot the recurring Ramsey debate
Samesong,
You forgot the Ramsay weekly debate….
Samesong
Bob contributed to about 85% of the Wilshere debate too. Some feat that.
Pierre
“Our home form is up there with the best, the new manager has to reverse our away form.”We got got smashed by both Manchester clubs at the Emirates….lol
By the way our home form is only second to Man City’s, better than ManU. Only two losses. Our away form is only better than that of the 3 relegated teams and Brighton.
Apparently Tony Colbert has gone as well.
That’s all of wengers original dinosaur coaching staff extinct.
UT
Dam knew I missed one out.
Is Arsenal’s Twitter run by a bunch of teenage girls? The Merci Arsene tweets are getting out of hand.
According to BBC (Ornstein) my namesake is coming back to the club as a youth coach, and there is talk about more of the invincibles joining the staff in one capacity or another. Positive news.
Looks like Jack only wants to stay now because only shite teams came in for him, not sure what he’s expecting really, he’s been bang average for years even when not injured.
Ruth
Home form this season for the top 6
City.. 50 points
Arsenal.. 47
United… 44
Spurs.. 40
Liverpool… 40
Chelsea…. 37
As I said Ruth, our home form is up there with the best..
Being linked with the keeper at Wolfsburg. Just going to have to trust the transfer process this summer. Might not always be who you want but we’ve got to trust that the new guy’s know what they’re doing.
Too much is made of this home and away stuff.
Only a few years ago it was our away form that was good and it was the ‘toxic’ home fans that led to our underwhelming home record.
We are just a mediocre side and it’s simply a quirk that doesn’t deserve any real scrutiny. Extreme positive variance on the home side + extreme negative variance away from home = same old bollocks season under Arsene Wenger.
Paulinho
Have you been in a coma or something..
If not then why say “Extreme positive variance on the home side + extreme negative variance away from home = same old bollocks season under Arsene Wenger”
Aubergine
Relax, not everything is a war you know. Typical snapshot of a keyboard warrior.
The Independent now reporting that Arteta is in prime position for the role vacant at Arsenal.
I don’t get it, I really don’t on why we are taking such a risk. Is it because we can’t afford anyone better?
That was a rhetorical question.
Paul Merson is the pundits answer to our very own Redtruth.
Chris Hughton as our next manager (if he didn’t play for Spurs) lolol that guy…
Theres nothing smart about hiring Arteta. Hoping to the skies it isn’t true.
Bouldie, Ljunberg, Lehmann-true Arsenal greats- working under Leader of Banter era Mikel Arteta?
How would he even command respect? What a circus
Pierre – Have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ll repeat: You end up where you deserve to end up. If we had won more away games the players would’ve just gave themselves more leeway to mess up at home. Those home games against the dross of the league became must-win to stop our season becoming even more an embarrassment than it was. Yes, it was worse season that previous seasons in terms of points but that was always going to happen regardless; as we were always going to get progressively worse the longer Wenger stayed here. How it manifested… Read more »
Why are we sure that Arteta would even take the job?
Rather than enhance his CV by working a couple years more with Pep and successful Man City, he’d be walking into the Lion’s den where it could all go horribly wrong and his career in tatters.
Leftside
We can definitely afford someone better, but maybe they would go with an inexpensive option (Arteta) for a year or two because they have to cover the Wenger pay-out? I don’t like it, but I guess that could be part of the thinking. Also, another component might be that Arteta has really impressed people (at both Arsenal and City) behind the scenes. Those are the only reasons I can think of for why they would even be considering Arteta.
Leftside
Oh, and Pep Guardiola, of course. Maybe they think Arteta will be able to bring the Guardiola system and magic with him to Arsenal.
Today the shield which Kronke had for 10 years will fall. From now on, no excuse. If they get Allegri, do not expect him to sit there silently when they say Arsenal have money to support the manager in the transfer market and then tell him to sell before buying. If Wenger had left 10 years ago, we would have struggled for a few years, maybe 3 to 5 but it would have forced Kronke to see and we would have got an owner who would have made funds available to buy players I fail to understand what exactly is… Read more »
@Bamford
We can definitely afford someone better, but maybe they would go with an inexpensive option (Arteta) for a year or two because they have to cover the Wenger pay-out?
Have we fallen so low as a club? That would have been 10M, right. If a club of our stature cannot afford something like that, then we are really doomed.
There was this old story about why the players don’t like Arteta.
It was said that when Arteta was captain, he bought Gazidis a super expensive wrist watch with the proc needs of the fines that players pay for different small infractions such as late coming.
Many of the players felt it was patently boot licking with other people’s money. To think of all the great players that played for Arsenal and it has to be this second rate player who was bought on a last-minute bargain rush.
There’s something cringe-inducing about Arteta.
Bam,
I can understand that I guess. I just can’t get my head around the fact that he has no tangible managerial experience. I’d be more comforted if he at least tested the waters at some kind of level, but for him to begin at Arsenal is going in at the deep end.
For what it’s worth, I still (maybe more in hope) think it will be Allegri.
MGooner
Stan Kroenke did not restrict what Wenger could spend; the only things that restricted what Wenger could spend were (i) the self-sustainable model and (ii) Wenger’s own ideas re team-building and spending.
‘We can definitely afford someone better, but maybe they would go with an inexpensive option (Arteta) for a year or two because they have to cover the Wenger pay-out?’
That’d be hilarious, Bamford.
So much for your pro-Kroenke, ‘not-a-penny-pincher’ arguments. So much for your belief that these guys would appoint the best possible candidate.
MGooner
Of course we should be able to afford that. But we don’t have unlimited money, and they may in fact think Arteta is a good option.
Again, I personally wouldn’t support hiring Arteta; I’m just trying to figure out why they are even considering it.
Bam, then we should be sitting on a pile of cash, so
1. we can afford Allegri
2. we can afford to givem him money to spend.
What we all fans wanted was Wenger out because we were not happy playing for top 4. We said we would rather be outside of the top 4 for a couple of seasons and challenge for the title.
As City and ManUtd and rebuilding by supporting their gaffers, we should do the same and support Allegri.
Rambo
Yeah, except that that wouldn’t prove what you think it proves. It would just mean that they were making a short-term calculation based on what they think of Arteta and what they want to spend (in general) on a manager.
MGooner
Sure, but some of that cash has been spent. See Lacazette and Aubameyang. Mustafi and Xhaka.
Of course we should want Allegri. Again, I’m just trying to understand why they would even be looking at Arteta.
the new managers first job in the pre season should be to take them to Coronado beach and put them all through Hell Week.
Wenger has let them have it far to easy