Wenger closes out new record + Managerial shortlist slims dramatically

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Ahhh man, sometimes, fairytales end when the Princess drinks too much wine, slips on a glass shoe and falls out the window, landing on her pet dog.

That’s Arsene’s final year. A real harrowing experience. He’s currently setting the record for the worst away showing since Giroud met a model in Manchester hotel and forgot to flush her mobile down the toilet.

It was a tough game to watch, not because we were particularly shite, more because we were so easily carved up in defence. Simple penetrating balls and diagonal crosses into our defence provoked sheer panic and confusion.

Iheanacho opened the scoring after about 15 attempts to clear our area, Arsenal can’t even hoof properly. Superstar hero man-child Mavrapanos disgraced himself a minute later with a red card on 15 minutes. He tried to play a clever pass under pressure, slipped, then brought down his man. It was pretty clumsy, very Arsenal, and a deserved red even though it looked like there was cover to pick up his mistake. Remember the days we used to wear red cards like a badge of honour? I want those back…

Arsenal leveled through Auba in the second half, some powerful running and calm composure from AMN to deliver a cross, allowing Auba to score on his second attempt. The joy didn’t last, Jamie Vardy broke our hearts from the penalty spot after Mikki made a clutzy foul in the box. Mahrez capped things off with a surging run he shouldn’t have been able to make.

Wenger is on his way out, he’s not even working hard for excuses, he took time out to lament decisions and throw a skewer at the Premier League for voting against VAR.

“Overall I believe we played a great game today. Even with 10 against 11 we should win the game. I’m convinced what changed the game was the penalty. I have complaints about the red card as well but I think we dealt well with the situation. I would like to praise the team for the spirit they showed tonight.

“There is always a reason for the defeat, but if you isolate each game, it is unfortunate what happened tonight. I think the Premier League has voted against VAR and it is upsetting. It destroys me because we were in front of the rest of the world, and now we want to be behind.”

I’m not going to go hard at the man, he’s Everton’s problem now. All I will say is I’m happy he gave Jack a nudge in the right direction.

“I’ve given him only one (bit of) advice, stay at the club. The noises I have heard is that he will do it,”

Good news. I know he’s been rank average most of the season, but he’s never really been coached. Let’s see how he does under someone who can help him with his game, motivate him to love playing again, and rekindle some of that magic we know he has.

Onto the good stuff. Allegri won his title and made some interesting comments to the press that kind of lead you to believe that I am some sort of f*cking expert when it comes to calling the narrative. This from James Horncastle.

‘Allegri pretty chippy on RAI when asked if it’s the end of a cycle and what Juve’s limits are. Calls the line of questioning absurd, says the team can still improve, the [re]build is not over and “we’ll fight for the title next season.”‘

That man needs a CL on his resume, he has a great team at Juve, the club works around his skillset, and he’s a perfect match for them. A huge pay bump and a move to London is always going to be attractive, but he can take that move whenever he wants. I wonder whether he has the appetite for a rebuild at Arsenal? An incredible coach, the best we could land, I just really doubt the situation.

Jezza Wilson, messenger for the mid-West aristocracy that owns our club, just dropped some information uppers on us, and it reads fairly similar to what I’ve been ranting your way this week.

Arsenal do not want to approach managers in work at an inconvenient moment and so must wait until most of the major European leagues have finished before accelerating their process.

Arsenal are not settled yet on whether to go all out for an established current manager like Allegri or Monaco’s Leonardo Jardim or a younger head coach-style option. They want to conduct a full recruitment process and intend to make their appointment by at least the start of the World Cup next month.

You can just imagine tight Stan K sitting in the boardroom stroking his persian cat.

‘Oh the conundrum, £15m a year manager who will bring all his expensive friends or two young coaches we can house in Vik Akers cupboard. Whatever shall I do?’

JW goes on to talk through the challenges of GALACTICO managers versus the young bucks. A well-trodden path we’ve explored with you many times before in the past.

Mokbel of The Mail and JC at The Mirror are both going on a similar path with Allegri, Arteta and Vieira (probably sharing intel with each other). Below is where the combined journo-list is at.

  • Allegri
  • Jardim
  • Nagelsmann
  • Paddy
  • Arteta

Realistically, for me, it’s going to be the three I’ve highlighted in bold. I can’t see PV04 being in the mixer, I’m not sure he’s moved NYC on enough, though he does have a great tie to the fans. Allegri is going to be very expensive, and likely very demanding of the club, not just that, he’s kind of said he’ll be there next season.

Jardim has everything we need, but maybe lacks the excitement of a manager who has a sexy back story, but he’s ready and he’d do an incredible job. He’s worked under every condition imaginable, he beat Paris last year on a budget with young players, and he has built great defences in the past. He’s also pretty young, just one year short of Tuchel at 43 years old, pretty much the peak age top managers start winning big things.

Nagelsmann and Arteta have different superpowers. Nagelsmann has actually managed a club and proved a success. However, we can keep on banging on about him, but Rapha H reckons he’s too smart to move to Arsenal. He’s just in it for the ego kick with us, most likely with an eye on Bayern where he apparently fancies settling down with his lady friend. I’d love this guy, he oozes the ingredients you want. Enough experience to be dangerous, enough potential to rock the league. But if his club won’t let him go, it’s tough… that said, Arsenal knocking on your door with a once in a lifetime job in London replacing Wenger is pretty appealing and tough for any man to say no to.

I’m back defending Arteta today. Too many people critiquing him for the wrong reasons. The common one is he’s too much of a Wenger patsy. I think that notion is badly misguided. He’s a key member of Peps coaching staff who just won a Premier League by destroying the competition. City humiliated the most expensively assembled league in the world. They boast a better goal difference than United and Spurs combined.

… yet people still question Arteta’s talent and strength as a potential coach because he played out the final 5 years of his career in a Wenger banter team. You think Pep Guardiola would have a wet blanket Wenger clone into his coaching setup? You think he’d let a pushover run his training sessions? You think he chooses to lean on average thinkers in one of the most high-pressure jobs in the world? Please. You’re not landing a job with Pep (who fought off Pochettino for his signature) unless you bleed like him and can offer him something he doesn’t have himself. That’s the only way the elite coaches can survive in the modern era, they’re the sum of their team. He’d also come with the ‘everyone thinks I’m going to fail’ chip on his shoulder, which is a plus over someone like Allegri who doesn’t need to prove a thing. Sure, Arteta is inexperienced, he’d be the biggest risk on the list, there’d be a lot to learn on the job, but let’s not look at the suggestion of Arsenal hiring him like we’re zip lining in Gunnersaurus to have a crack.

The close-mindedness of some fans is unreal. The same people who’ve spent 10 years enabling a failing manager who once blamed our ‘mysterious’ injury pileups on rogue hair pills, are now chiming in on what it takes to lead Arsenal to the next level, is the next level, is the next level. Where was all this knowledge when there was actually a debate about Arsene Wenger using tactics after our 46th straight defeat to a top 6 team? Astounding carry-on from the ‘The players let him down’ crew, and the ‘Who else is there?’ Crouch End Tourettes Brigade.

Anyway, those be my final words for today. If the MSM Arsenal insiders crew has the list right, we’ve got a group of men who can move us in the right direction next season, don’t let someone on Twitter called @SabrosaHamburguesaᵌ tell you otherwise.

Right, see you in the comments!

 

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Guns of Hackney

Give Carzorla the job.

Guns of Hackney

Yaya toure for manager!

Edd

Paddy all the way. Strong character, unrivaled desire to and would unite the fan base.

Guns of Hackney

Marouane chamack as new assistant.

Leedsgunner

Edd

I agree, PV4 wouldn’t be my first choice but he would be streets ahead of Arteta if we were considering managerial newbi,es.

Just imagine PV4 as manager raising his first trophy with us… I get the chills just thinking about it!!!

If Arteta wants to be a manager, tell him to go to Everton — he is more their hero than ours!

Jamie

Guns on a roll!

Room for Eboue on the staff, clowning around?

Jamie

Also, Eboue is fluent in Korean, so that could help with building our fanbase over there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5mj0Huxajk

James wood

Only on ex player for me as manager

Denis Bergkamp.
And yes he does not like to fly.
No problem with the new fast link into
St Pancras.

Jim Lahey

Not sure if someone has already covered these, but….. A couple of points from the game yesterday, Mavrapanos sending off, was a red thats fine, but as soon as he began to complain to the ref Cech runs up and tries to usher him off the field as quickly as possible.. why? Would Roy Keane at United have done the same? Doubt it, my guess is Keane and several other players would be in the refs face.. not at Arsenal though.. So its the dying moments of the first half and we are a goal down and on the attack,… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“I agree, PV4 wouldn’t be my first choice but he would be streets ahead of Arteta if we were considering managerial newbi,es.“

Streets ahead because you want to see Vieira lift a trophy for us again? What criteria?

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Guns
I agree
I think a sweeper would allow to push further up the park, if we are going to play the pressie game ..,

De Jong
Greek boy
Bell chambo holds new lb

Nelson amn Mikhi
Lackof bang bang

An example would allow cb to push up an boss mid

mysticleaves

Your Comment Here

Guns of Brixton

Wheres Alex Mcleish these days?

mysticleaves

Senderous and Djoruou was our CB pairing at some point. Both were u23. In hindsight that was a total disregard for the defence.

As for the manager, I have no doubt that if we are going left field, then Jardim and not Arteta or Nagelsman is who we will get. And I will be overjoyed. There’s a pattern also. Won the league once, reach the UCL semi, has he won any cups in France? He’d be a great hire.

Imagine Jardim rolling in with his side kick, Fabinho.

Negation

It’s a no for me on Arteta as well. Hell no, in fact. I don’t care how good or bad Patrick Vieira is right now; if he’s not ready, neither is Arteta. I mean, NOBODY knows what he does for City. I’m sure he does something, but what? And I have zero pleasant memories of him at Arsenal, so that sentimentality angle must be for some other fan. Arsenal don’t just need another manager, they need somebody who will justify and vindicate Wenger’s sacking. And people, please look around: Arsenal DNA, whatever that means, must die if Arsenal are to… Read more »

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

When the club made the decision to rid Wenger I for one presumed that they had a replacement lined up.
I don’t see reason to change my mind.

I believe that they know whom they want and have put in a provisional offer to him.

This new set up font want to start off by dilly dallying

mysticleaves

I hear Jose Gayas release clause falls down to around 24m in the summer. I know we just bought Kola but we should be making that deal. I haven’t seen much lately about Gaya but he was the shit about 2 years back.

Moray

Is Arteta being linked with the upcoming Chelsea job?

kelvin

WTF… I can’t believe nobody is talking about Ozil’s agent comments on Keown.

My faint love for Ozil just dissapeared, i wish he fucks off after this season.

Moray

RSPC, don’t think for one minute the left hand knows what the right hand is doing at Arsenal. I suspect Ivan probably had someone lined up last year but the Wenger retirement was Josh Kroenke making the decision and I suspect came as a bit of a shock.

Whether the recent excellent hires into our management team are a sign of what we can expect with our managerial appointment or whether they are going to be limiting, we shall see.

Jamie

Ozil isn’t going anywhere. 350k a week over 4 years says so.

Only if we find a club willing to match is wages, which will cost them almost 75m to cover over the course of his contract, then we can release him on a free and cut our losses.

Marc

If a former Arsenal hero was managing a team doing so so in a third rate league would we be keen for him to join?

mysticleaves

Kelvin sod off. You don’t think if you were a player your manager wont protect you against comments like that of Keown on Ozil. He just got a piece back. His attack on Ozil was not measured to be fair. And I am surprised Ozil himself didn’t reply him.

Ishola70

Marc
“If a former Arsenal hero was managing a team doing so so in a third rate league would we be keen for him to join?”

It’s just not about being a third rate league.

Vieira is on a jolly in New York.

He has no pressure at all to succeed.

All he has to do is try to implement in the New York team the style of football Man City play. That’s all his remit is there.

David Bolo

40 points. 40 fu**ing points behind the league winners!! I know it’s 37 now but we have an away match left so it will be 40. Surely any half decent manager would be an improvement.

gambon

“Vieira is just a Man City guinea pig at Man City. He is under no pressure at all to succeed there. He’s on holiday there. All his remit is is to blueprint Man City’s game on the New York team and at this time he is very green doing it.” Im sorry ishola but this just isnt true. You think career professional footballers, with millions in the bank and 25 years in the game take jobs to “be on holiday”. He has more than enough money to never work again. From what I hear of Vieira he is unbelievably hard… Read more »

Marc

Ishola

That makes it even worse – what if he decided that Arsenal was too much hard work? Fuck I can’t be bothered to push the team today?

azed

“He’s a key member of Peps coaching staff who just won a Premier League by destroying the competition.”

Lets assume Arteta is 30% of Peps team at City, how would we complete the other 70%?

We can’t match City for money, we have a poorer squad so going for Pep light cannot and should not be an option.

gambon

I hope Keown literally beats the shit out of Ozil next time he sees him, then throws his agent off the roof of the Emirates. Keown jealous of Ozil? Keown played nearly 500 games for Arsenal, won 3 league titles and is considered a legend. Ozil is a goggle eyed freak who has a sick day every 3rd game, and doesnt seem to care where he finishes. Keown was part of a team that went a season unbeaten, and a season unbeaten away from home. Ozil is part of a team that has lost the same amount of games away… Read more »

Ishola70

Gambon

I am not saying Vieira is lazy.

What I’m saying is that his job at New York is not primarily about winning available trophies there. He was told by Man City to go there and implement their style of football. Winning trophies along with it is seen as a nice bonus.

Of course he could be sacked if he was absolutely useless there but his main remit is to implement their style of football on that team.

Dennis

About Arteta i s’m saying , like.. if he’s performing a specialist attacking coahc role at mancity, this is different than an overall management position.. how many specialist coaches does city have.. attacking coach (‘extra yard focus’)<> head coach/ manager / overseer… ..? hmm..
seems could be pretty quick , far jump/leap… though people who can do it,, lol could do it..?

Ishola70

Dennis this is what I have been saying.

All we have heard in the media is that Arteta worked individually with certain players that included Sterling and that work was all about the final third of the pitch meaning attacking side of the game.

How is this going to help Arsenal and the weaknesses we all know about?

Nobody seems to have any answers.

Leedsgunner

Why was Özil’s agent spouting off anyway?

Can’t he speak for himself? Fight his own battles? Has his lost his voice? If he’s not careful he’s going to poison his relationship with the fans making his position untenable.

No man is bigger than the club, no matter how much you earn.

Jacko

I’m thinking it’s a toss-up between Dave Bassett or Barry Fry?

China

what authority to city have over Vieira to tell him to do this and set this as his remit?

I don’t think city care much what Vieira is doing at New York.

gambon

Of course Ozil cant fight his own battles.

Hes got the mentality of a 10 year old child, as we see on the pitch every time things get tough.

Keown went to war for this club over 400 times, Ozil makes a few key passes against teams like Watford and Sunderland, and his hipster fans lap it up.

Has anyone noticed almost all the hardcore Ozil fans are also hardcore Wenger fans, that actually despise the club itself. They back a few hipster individuals but care little for the success of Arsenal FC.

HighburyLegend

Just one thing Pedro forgot to said in his praise for Arteta…
I wouldn’t be surprised if the f*cking Kroenke family are looking for some stability and a “long term deal” with the next coach, so we would be stuck with him for a long time, even if he don’t succeed after a couple of seasons.

Fingers crossed and hoping that they’ll do the right choice, and mostly, hoping that the ivan/minslat/raul trio will have the main influence for the choice.

Marc

China

New York are owned by same family as City.

FFS some people on here haven’t got a fucking clue.

englandsbest

Nobody is saying that Arteta (or Patrick, etc) is their number one choice as manager. Mine would be Pep, others would pick Enrique or Simeone or Allegri…or whoever. But they all have one thing in common: none of them will take on the job, even if they fancy it, because it’s too big a task without a huge transfer pot. Gaziidis knew this ages ago, I’d be surprised if he even bothered to approach any of the top echelon managers. Instead he hired Raul and Sven. The implication is obvious: a much smaller role for the next manager. And no… Read more »

Ishola70

China
“what authority to city have over Vieira to tell him to do this and set this as his remit?I don’t think city care much what Vieira is doing at New York.”

China New York City is a sister club of Manchester City.

HighburyLegend

I think that @englandsbest’s post is spot on.

Negation

“I’d say a young guy, presentable, intelligent, who can handle interviews. A person with some managerial experience, but not much. Someone who showed leadership qualities as a pro football player. A man who spent the best part of his career at Arsenal, and remains a committed fan.” I hear you, englandsbest, but to add to the paragraph above, the person must 1.) Be a realist. No more rose-tinted shenanigans 2.) Understand and respect the art of defending. As far as i’m concerned, in the world of football management only Pep has earned the right to sound bored when talking about… Read more »

Marc

englandsbest

There’s one major flaw to your argument if Arsenal can’t compete then why would Sanllehi join us?

It’d be like Pep leaving City to take over at Stoke.

gonsterous

if arteta or veira comes in, I’m done with the club.. more of the 1 step forward, 2 steps back policy. this team needs a proper manager, give me eddie howe over those two…

mysticleaves

If my agent/manager ain’t protecting me I’d fire him. Keown was doing his job, Ozils agent was doing his job. Keown was over board for attacking Ozil like that, what did he expect? kiss and hugs from Ozils camp?

Of course Keown was champion, a legend. He played so much games and was under a working system for almost all his time with us. He would know how incredibly difficult and clueless a lack of system can make a star player look.

Ishola70

Marc
“There’s one major flaw to your argument if Arsenal can’t compete then why would Sanllehi join us?”

Money?

Would bet he is on a better wage than he was at Barca.

Dennis

Ishola.. Agreed..!

and picking up read a thread i read here – Viera vs Arteta

would Vieira be ready for a jump similarly..? At least he has some managerial experience.. ..?

Funnily could there be a situation where depending re framing, Arsenal become testing ground for man city project managers.. Lol..?

(or city invest in arsenal future managers .. )

mysticleaves

“Of course he could be sacked if he was absolutely useless there but his main remit is to implement their style of football on that team.”

Ishola if we brought in a coach that would implement City’s style of play I will be over the moon. I wonder how you try to demean a coach with a full time job

Doublethink

So it seems like you’re calling the people that don’t agree with you about Arteta being a good choice close minded, or have I misunderstood?

Marc

Ishola

There are a couple of flaws to your comment

1) So we can pay a DOF but not a manager big money (our transfer spend the last few years has been new the top of the PL)

2) Guy’s like Sanllehi whilst motivated by money are just as interested in achieving things. Coming into sail a dingy because it’s good fun when you’ve been used to sailing the QE2 just doesn’t make sense.

Guns of Hackney

Arsenal fans are really shit. People aren’t getting it. What makes Allegri a sure bet against Arteta v Bagelsmann v Jardim? Conte has just blown up. He looked shit hot at the beginning, didn’t he? Just accept that Arsenal will be 1,000 % better now the maniac is gone. Everyone “knows” about which manager is the best…you don’t. You know as much as anyone and that’s fuck all. You have an opinion, not facts. Alas, the Wenger years have eroded most peoples brains. Everyone is scared that arsenal will make a mistake but how about arsenal getting in right? They… Read more »

Ishola70

mysticleaves
“if we brought in a coach that would implement City’s style of play I will be over the moon. I wonder how you try to demean a coach with a full time job”

You can call it demeaning if you wish but I am just relaying the reality of the New York City job.

It is not a managers job that is in the traditional sense of the word.

Ishola70

Dennis
“Funnily could there be a situation where depending re framing, Arsenal become testing ground for man city project managers.. Lol..?”

lol yes Dennis.

People do not see the irony of this.

Arsenal become in the future another sister club to Manchester City.

We will stand alongside New York City FC getting shafted by the sheikhs.

Marc

Guns

I’ve been saying as much for over a week now. Everyone’s so fucking negative – if we get the appointment wrong we sack them and get someone else.

We’ve brought in top level people over the last few months – you don’t do that to aim for 6th.

Guns of Hackney

And another thing. Hasn’t peter been banging the drum that “managers aren’t the spearhead they once were”. We hear it’s now about coaches, DOFs etc. More a team game thing.

I mean, the coach picks the team and has an idea about tactics…that’s pretty much it.

Zidane might win three CLs but is he the greatest manager in the world? Probably not.

Sorry, you lot are missing the point about Arteta.

Guns of Hackney

Marc

Exactly. What have arsenal got to lose?

Chelsea sack a manager every year. Win loads.

Real. Ditto.

Why not us?

Wake up.

Marc

Guns

I’ve been using an F1 analogy – you don’t hire Ross Brawn to run the team, Adrian Newey to design the car, put a Mercedes or Ferrari works engine in the back of it to go and hire your Nan to drive the fucking thing.

I think we’d almost be better off with two comments pages on here. One for football and the other for people to just make contrary comments. It could be up or down for all I care.

Guns of Brixton

Chelsea are more up and down than a yo yo tho.

Want STABILITY

Guns of Hackney

Marc

Very good point. We keep being told that arsenal are moving the pieces into position and now, two weeks after we have got rid of Wenger, the panic buttons are being pressed.

That says to me, the majority of posters only know Wenger. They are scared of the unknown.

As fans, we can only hope arsenal get themselves right and move forward.

Jesus, buying a £90m player doesn’t guarantee anything so why apply a different set of rules to a
manager? It doesn’t make sense.

Guns of Hackney

GOB

We’ve had 22 years of stability. Where did that get us?

No. Now is the time to go wild.

mysticleaves

“You can call it demeaning if you wish but I am just relaying the reality of the New York City job.
It is not a managers job that is in the traditional sense of the word.”

This drivel is reality? really? lol. “It’s not a managers job that is in the traditional sense of the word”. haha. wtf

Ishola70

mystic

New York City is a satellite club of Manchester City.

Vieira has gone to that club under instruction from Manchester City to implement their style of play at that club.

Now tell me if that is a traditional managers job. Being instructed by another club how to run the club you are managing.

Not difficult to realise is it?

Ishola70

What is dificult to get your head around that?

If this is sort some of defence of Paddy V then that is very touching.

mysticleaves

How does that remove from all the work he is actually doing there? it’s a proper job and he’s got them top of the pile with the “instructions”. I don’t see how it’s different to say the instructions that will be given to a new manager that comes to Arsenal. That’s my point

Guns of Hackney

If Arsenal hire Benitez, the internet will bust.

mysticleaves

And the fact NYFC is a satellite club of City doesn’t mean they don’t function independently. They are just under one umbrella. Girona is part of it too

mysticleaves

“If this is sort some of defence of Paddy V then that is very touching.”

more like an exposure of your cluelessness, sorry

Ishola70

The point is he is under no pressure or obligation to win trophies while at New York City.

Of course they would like to win trophies if they can but the main thing there is the style of play that he has been issued to implement.

The team is erratic no?

Loses quite big at times. That’s because the style of play is seen as more important than results. If the style of play works and gets better then results will become less erratic over time.

Alex James

Carlo is the only sane choice, to get us up and running quickly. He has immense respect in the game and has won things. I don’t want some young guy, with no sole experience of managing experienced players near the club, even if he were bolstered by the new management team around him.

Ishola70

lol top of the pile mystic?

New York City FC have conceded 23 goals in their last 10 away matches.

Is this a freal serious team mystic or are you kidding us on?

mysticleaves

No, you are flatly wrong. The nature of the MLS is at that point where they are no cut and dry super heavy weights. they are not dominant top 4 or 6 or 2. Teams can still beat teams fairly easily. it’s the nature of league not because they dont care about results.

He is under pressure to perform because he will be sacked if he fails. he’s an employee after all.

Because the next manager we hire will not be tasked with winning the league does not mean he won’t be under pressure. got it?

Guns of Hackney

Come August

“We should have given Wenger another couple of years”

Arsenal don’t deserve success if this is the response we get when a young potential manager is mentioned.

Arsenal fans would still be living in caves if they had their way.

Ishola70

mystic

new york city fc have conceded 23 goals in their last 10 away matches.

is this serious footy?

Guns of Hackney

23 in 10?

I thought that was Arsenal’s away record for a minute.

mysticleaves

“lol top of the pile mystic?
New York City FC have conceded 23 goals in their last 10 away matches.”

I believe you know what top of the pile means right? like it doesn’t have anything to do with how many goals you have conceded away right?

alexanderhenry

Pedro

I’m with you on Arteta. At this stage he’s not the absolute, ideal, christmas has come early, managerial choice, but I just don’t think an Allegri appointment is on the cards.

And if he fails, arsenal can replace him with someone else. Imagine that.

Odds are currently 3/1 on skybet- missed a trick there.

mysticleaves

Ishola are you knocking the league or the coach or the fact that city football group owns NYFC? Or are you just digging your self further down because you made an awful first comment?

Negation

Guns of Hackney

Your opinion is your opinion – I can’t fault it. It’s positive.

Nevertheless, I will reiterate mine – I would prefer someone other than Arteta. To me it’s not negative. I’m super happy wenger is leaving. But I’m confused – is it impossible for someone else to come and in and do exactly what wenger did? Plus, I would like to enjoy watching the team I’m supported all my life.

Ishola70

mystic please tell us how conceding 23 goals in 10 away matches can be seen as serious footy.

Arsenal have conceded 16 goals in their last 10 away matches and that is why Arsenal are struggling in the league and people are pulling their hair out here. Terrible amount of goals to conceded from any real serious side.

and then we see new york city fc and 23 goals conceded.

Guns of Hackney

Negation

I concur. But, Arsenal will 100% implement a ‘style’ they want to play. The new manager will fit that brief I’m sure.

Whoever is hired, I hope we can unite for the first time in a decade.

Marc

I think Allegri will be managing in the PL next season – it’s just whether it’s us or at Chelsea.

The PL is the league at the moment – the only bigger draws are the Madrid / Barca jobs which will always be massive.

China

I didn’t realise that NY are a satellite club. That’s interesting anyway

Marc

Negation

I haven’t actually seen Guns give a real preference on who he’d like. What I’ve seen is him just trying to tell the constant moaners on here to stop being so negative, the club will appoint who they appoint and no one on here has a clue who that’ll be.

Guns of Hackney

Marc is right. I have people I’d rather arsenal NOT employ. Ancelotti is one and obviously not Rodgers and Benitez.

Anyone else and I’ll be happier being an arsenal fan since probably 2009.

Onwards and upwards.

mysticleaves

ishola Real Madrid have conceded almost same number of goals as Arsenal because they play open football, in their world, it’s acceptable. The MLS is normally a high scoring league and the fact that there are no clear heavyweights means that everybody gets their share of goals. Most teams are evenly matched. The points difference between the first in the normal season and the last is not usually much. It’s still a developing league. By all means if you want to knock the league do that but to say Viera is holidaying is bollox and a proper drivel. He’s implementing… Read more »

Carts

Predictable painful showing from Arsenal last night.

Tank Burnley at home to add a bit of paper over cracks, then lose to Leicester who are on the brink of (unfairly) sacking Puel.

Our home and away form – aching to something of two halves – is exactly how Wenger’s tenure’s been. If anyone even tries to dispute that, they’re frankly talking shit.

Moving forward, Allegri or Jardim for me. Kind of edging to Jardim due to the excellent work he did for Monaco under the parameters.

alexanderhenry

From Wenger’s last press conference, regarding the successor:

‘The advice is to give his best and to respect the values of the club,’

With the new manager expect Gazidis and co. to roll out the PR concerning Arsenal’s ‘values’.

These ‘values’ primarily include project youth and living within ours means .

Self sustainability basically.

That’s why an Arteta type appointment is so likely.

gambon

Fantastic piece of writing by Allegri.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/massimiliano-allegri-juventus-the-principal

Hes definitely the man for the job.

You would never see Wenger writing anything like this.

Negation

Guns

I feel you on that.

Marc

mystic

“Real Madrid have conceded almost same number of goals as Arsenal because they play open football, in their world, it’s acceptable.”

Really? Odds are that Zidane will be sacked in the summer. Finishing second in the league is not acceptable to Madrid and conceding that many goals in a league where 90% of matches should be a walk over will be seen as a major reason why.

Ishola70

mystic

are you one of these fans that want to win 4-3 every week.

I know that New York City FC focus on attack and style of play to the detriment of their defence. They scrimp on defence in relation to attack and their results clearly show that.

Sounds horribly familiar and don’t want any part of it.

Would like to see from adult football from Arsenal not jumpers for goalposts football.

mysticleaves

y’all say coaches should start from a smaller club and prove themselves. That’s all I see Viera doing. It’s stupidity to expect him to go unbeaten and concede 15 goals all season. The proper team is to look at the team before he came on board and now that he’s onboard and check their performance levels. The fact is Viera has improved NYCFC massively since he came on board. He has experienced the emotions involve in being a coach/manager for 3years. It’s not something to knock. He can only up forward form here. am not in anyway advocating he comes… Read more »

Marc

alexanderhenry

Give it as rest 99% of clubs operate on a self sustaining basis. Outiside of City, PSG etc and when the Spanish government are “helping out” Madrid everyone else either does or goes bust. Even Abramovich has stopped chucking money into Chelsea like he was before.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

If you look at what’s most important to the club that’s what will tell you whom the ne2 manager is
Money
Promoting youth players to sell meaning money
Replace wenger 10m with a cheap alternative
They the board felt wengers role had diminished an could be done by a puppet.

Hence Arteta

mysticleaves

Marc run down Madrid stats the last 10 years you would see they aren’t particular about not conceding goals. Casillas was touted as the best keeper in Spain but in fact didn’t win many Zamoras. For a top team they concede a lot and it’s quite normal for them

BillikenGooner

We just have to accept a 5th – 7th next season as whoever it is takes the next 3 transfer windows to rebuild the defense.

Whoever gets hired also has to be someone who accepts a year of crap and that we won’t be challenging for anything next season.

Guns of Hackney

Brazil. Score more than the other team. GK and defence is irrelevant.

Ask Germany.

mysticleaves

I know that New York City FC focus on attack and style of play to the detriment of their defence. They scrimp on defence in relation to attack and their results clearly show that.

Ishola is not really NYCFC it’s the nature of the league and the fact that most teams win at home with quite a number of goals scored.

In the PL for example, only the top 6 can score 3 goals against Arsenal away from home. THIS season is an anomaly. We aren’t this poor away form home

alexanderhenry
up 4 grabs now

I posted this yesterday, explains why defence is the big issue. up 4 grabs now May 9, 2018 15:52:26 Whoever comes in the defence for me is the big job to start with. We are currently the third highest scorers in the league and that was with a misfiring Sanchez, Giroud, Welbz and Lolcott for half a season. Throw in that Laca missed 6 weeks through injury scoring isn’t the issue. The defensive side of our game is the problem. we have the worst defence in the top 7. Clubs such as Brighton, Newcastle & Burnley have conceded less. Barring… Read more »