Ahhh man, sometimes, fairytales end when the Princess drinks too much wine, slips on a glass shoe and falls out the window, landing on her pet dog.
That’s Arsene’s final year. A real harrowing experience. He’s currently setting the record for the worst away showing since Giroud met a model in Manchester hotel and forgot to flush her mobile down the toilet.
It was a tough game to watch, not because we were particularly shite, more because we were so easily carved up in defence. Simple penetrating balls and diagonal crosses into our defence provoked sheer panic and confusion.
Iheanacho opened the scoring after about 15 attempts to clear our area, Arsenal can’t even hoof properly. Superstar hero man-child Mavrapanos disgraced himself a minute later with a red card on 15 minutes. He tried to play a clever pass under pressure, slipped, then brought down his man. It was pretty clumsy, very Arsenal, and a deserved red even though it looked like there was cover to pick up his mistake. Remember the days we used to wear red cards like a badge of honour? I want those back…
Arsenal leveled through Auba in the second half, some powerful running and calm composure from AMN to deliver a cross, allowing Auba to score on his second attempt. The joy didn’t last, Jamie Vardy broke our hearts from the penalty spot after Mikki made a clutzy foul in the box. Mahrez capped things off with a surging run he shouldn’t have been able to make.
Wenger is on his way out, he’s not even working hard for excuses, he took time out to lament decisions and throw a skewer at the Premier League for voting against VAR.
“Overall I believe we played a great game today. Even with 10 against 11 we should win the game. I’m convinced what changed the game was the penalty. I have complaints about the red card as well but I think we dealt well with the situation. I would like to praise the team for the spirit they showed tonight.
“There is always a reason for the defeat, but if you isolate each game, it is unfortunate what happened tonight. I think the Premier League has voted against VAR and it is upsetting. It destroys me because we were in front of the rest of the world, and now we want to be behind.”
I’m not going to go hard at the man, he’s Everton’s problem now. All I will say is I’m happy he gave Jack a nudge in the right direction.
“I’ve given him only one (bit of) advice, stay at the club. The noises I have heard is that he will do it,”
Good news. I know he’s been rank average most of the season, but he’s never really been coached. Let’s see how he does under someone who can help him with his game, motivate him to love playing again, and rekindle some of that magic we know he has.
Onto the good stuff. Allegri won his title and made some interesting comments to the press that kind of lead you to believe that I am some sort of f*cking expert when it comes to calling the narrative. This from James Horncastle.
‘Allegri pretty chippy on RAI when asked if it’s the end of a cycle and what Juve’s limits are. Calls the line of questioning absurd, says the team can still improve, the [re]build is not over and “we’ll fight for the title next season.”‘
That man needs a CL on his resume, he has a great team at Juve, the club works around his skillset, and he’s a perfect match for them. A huge pay bump and a move to London is always going to be attractive, but he can take that move whenever he wants. I wonder whether he has the appetite for a rebuild at Arsenal? An incredible coach, the best we could land, I just really doubt the situation.
Jezza Wilson, messenger for the mid-West aristocracy that owns our club, just dropped some information uppers on us, and it reads fairly similar to what I’ve been ranting your way this week.
Arsenal do not want to approach managers in work at an inconvenient moment and so must wait until most of the major European leagues have finished before accelerating their process.
Arsenal are not settled yet on whether to go all out for an established current manager like Allegri or Monaco’s Leonardo Jardim or a younger head coach-style option. They want to conduct a full recruitment process and intend to make their appointment by at least the start of the World Cup next month.
You can just imagine tight Stan K sitting in the boardroom stroking his persian cat.
‘Oh the conundrum, £15m a year manager who will bring all his expensive friends or two young coaches we can house in Vik Akers cupboard. Whatever shall I do?’
JW goes on to talk through the challenges of GALACTICO managers versus the young bucks. A well-trodden path we’ve explored with you many times before in the past.
Mokbel of The Mail and JC at The Mirror are both going on a similar path with Allegri, Arteta and Vieira (probably sharing intel with each other). Below is where the combined journo-list is at.
- Allegri
- Jardim
- Nagelsmann
- Paddy
- Arteta
Realistically, for me, it’s going to be the three I’ve highlighted in bold. I can’t see PV04 being in the mixer, I’m not sure he’s moved NYC on enough, though he does have a great tie to the fans. Allegri is going to be very expensive, and likely very demanding of the club, not just that, he’s kind of said he’ll be there next season.
Jardim has everything we need, but maybe lacks the excitement of a manager who has a sexy back story, but he’s ready and he’d do an incredible job. He’s worked under every condition imaginable, he beat Paris last year on a budget with young players, and he has built great defences in the past. He’s also pretty young, just one year short of Tuchel at 43 years old, pretty much the peak age top managers start winning big things.
Nagelsmann and Arteta have different superpowers. Nagelsmann has actually managed a club and proved a success. However, we can keep on banging on about him, but Rapha H reckons he’s too smart to move to Arsenal. He’s just in it for the ego kick with us, most likely with an eye on Bayern where he apparently fancies settling down with his lady friend. I’d love this guy, he oozes the ingredients you want. Enough experience to be dangerous, enough potential to rock the league. But if his club won’t let him go, it’s tough… that said, Arsenal knocking on your door with a once in a lifetime job in London replacing Wenger is pretty appealing and tough for any man to say no to.
I’m back defending Arteta today. Too many people critiquing him for the wrong reasons. The common one is he’s too much of a Wenger patsy. I think that notion is badly misguided. He’s a key member of Peps coaching staff who just won a Premier League by destroying the competition. City humiliated the most expensively assembled league in the world. They boast a better goal difference than United and Spurs combined.
… yet people still question Arteta’s talent and strength as a potential coach because he played out the final 5 years of his career in a Wenger banter team. You think Pep Guardiola would have a wet blanket Wenger clone into his coaching setup? You think he’d let a pushover run his training sessions? You think he chooses to lean on average thinkers in one of the most high-pressure jobs in the world? Please. You’re not landing a job with Pep (who fought off Pochettino for his signature) unless you bleed like him and can offer him something he doesn’t have himself. That’s the only way the elite coaches can survive in the modern era, they’re the sum of their team. He’d also come with the ‘everyone thinks I’m going to fail’ chip on his shoulder, which is a plus over someone like Allegri who doesn’t need to prove a thing. Sure, Arteta is inexperienced, he’d be the biggest risk on the list, there’d be a lot to learn on the job, but let’s not look at the suggestion of Arsenal hiring him like we’re zip lining in Gunnersaurus to have a crack.
The close-mindedness of some fans is unreal. The same people who’ve spent 10 years enabling a failing manager who once blamed our ‘mysterious’ injury pileups on rogue hair pills, are now chiming in on what it takes to lead Arsenal to the next level, is the next level, is the next level. Where was all this knowledge when there was actually a debate about Arsene Wenger using tactics after our 46th straight defeat to a top 6 team? Astounding carry-on from the ‘The players let him down’ crew, and the ‘Who else is there?’ Crouch End Tourettes Brigade.
Anyway, those be my final words for today. If the MSM Arsenal insiders crew has the list right, we’ve got a group of men who can move us in the right direction next season, don’t let someone on Twitter called @SabrosaHamburguesaᵌ tell you otherwise.
Right, see you in the comments!
Bankz
Is here for the Tr4phy again
BOOOOOOOM
Tr4phy
tr4phy
Nice try DM
Trying to sneak up on me like that.
Fokoff along with wenger
Nice one Bankz! Not sure how I was so late to the party today, v rare for me not to win the 9am post! Enjoy your tr4phy
Thanks DM
It’s always feels good to have a clean sweep.
F*ck Wenger till the very end.
Deluded old goat.
Hope he leaves with all the AKB ass licking fans.
I’ve waiting for this since like forever.
Still can’t believe the universe finally granted our sole wish by getting Wenger off our hands.
Can’t wait for the dawn of a new era under a better/vibrant manager
I think the new manager will have to have more than just a superpower. We are 40 points from top.
That. Is. Disgusting.
I think the fucking Justice League would struggle with this shitty squad.
Disappointing result. Thought young
Marvin was unlucky to be sent off. Yet another match away from home where we score less than two goals. Defensive errors and shape can be improved thru organisation. But offensive output depends on coaching & especially talent. We need more passing, dribbling & pace. That costs money.
Pretty certain we’re hiring Arteta. Gazidis is desperate to flex his muscles after his boss Arsène Wenger leaves the club.
That red was harsh last night talk about ruining the lads confidence Monreal was clearly able to cover.
I was thinking up until after Auba scores it was the hallmarks of that Madrid game but us being 1 man down.
We played a team that thrive on counter attacking so I was a fool to think we could defend the draw. Was a touch unfortunate at times but defending woeful as always.
Worst away record this season.
Emiratesstroller
“The most obvious conclusion when you watch most games is that they attach more attention to offensive play and entertainment than the art of good defending.”
Lol…..Arsenal haven’t scored more than one goal in each of the 7 away losses since the start of the New Year.
If Arsenal’s offensive play was more potent then they would have avoided half of all those away losses since the New Year.
The new manager of Arsenal needs to be the anthesis of Wenger and be able to sort out the defensive side of our game as a matter of urgency. It has been blindingly obvious over many years that Wenger did not have a clue how to build a solid defence. That has been absent in his philosophy. Tightening up your defence and instilling discipline and concentration is not rocket science and frankly you don’t need super stars to achieve this. There have been teams close to the relegation zone who are able to defend better than us this season. What… Read more »
By ‘we’ he clearly means he’s bringing Chezza back home to fight for THE title.
RT
That may be the case but we have scored 73 goals this season and that is more than Man Utd, Spurs and Chelsea.
Moreover the club has introduced three new players in Aubameyang, Lacazette and Mkhitaryan and they have yet to bed into team as a collective.
Goalscoring is not our major problem. I stick to what I have written above as
the reason for our poor away form and the defensive errors that we make.
We may have a few goals in attack but our midfield is appalling and the defence needs major surgery.
It’s a complete defense and 90% of the middle.
That’s massive.
The biggest factor for Man City was the offensive side of the game in scoring over 100 Premier league goals
Emiratesstroller
“Goalscoring is not our major problem. I stick to what I have written above as
the reason for our poor away form and the defensive errors that we make.”
It is in away ganes lol
Great post, Pedro. Loved the bit about the princess falling on her pet dog. Perfect.
The season is over so…we have to get the new chap in ASAP and let them get to work.
The good thing is, most of our players aren’t going to the World Cup, so they can be sold nice and easily.
Arsenal will need all of the close season to get this shit sorted.
We know as in previous seasons that the majority of Arsenal’s goals come against shit teams.
This season Arsenal have only managed 10 goals sgainst top 6 opposition.
0 points from away games in 2018. Sums up Wenger’s Arsenal for you.
Arsenal scored 10 goals against Everton beat Huddesfield 5-0 and just beat Burnley 5-0 in a meaningless game.
That’s 20 goals in 4 games ….what about the other 33 games…
RT I am afraid that I disagree as usual with your opinion. Attack is not our problem. If you want to have clear evidence of Arsenal’s current problems take a look at the lack of stability in our defence. The only player who more or less starts our EPL Games is Bellerin at right back. We have played sofar no fewer than EIGHT different players in Centre Back positions this season i.e. Mustafi, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Chambers, Holding, Mavropanos, Monreal and Kolasinac. Do you think that is normal? If you play 3 or 4 at back you should know who are… Read more »
Let’s say PEA and Lacatallent get 20 each. Perhaps on a good day Mikki and Ramsay 8-10…I’m not sure where else we’re getting goals. Ozil? Forget it. Wilshere? The prick hasn’t scored 10 in 10 seasons.
We are probably 30/40 goals shy per season than the very best.
RT
The last thing that Arsenal needs to do at moment is keep on spending on our
attack.
We have invested in three new players this season and you can add in Nelson as a talented young winger prospect who will need game time next season.
Aubameyang and Lacazette are both capable of scoring 25-30 goals a season +.
There are not many other teams in EPL with that fire power.
Arsenal’s firepower has come against soft touches or mistakes like the Liverpool keeper at the Emirates.
Pep Guardiola won the league with an organization that’s not afriad to spend money.
Would city have won without Arteta as assistant manager?
Resounding YES
Arteta needs a job with Deportivo La Curuna, not with Arsenal.
Arteta is too much of a risk for me, and frankly underwhelming. Outside of that, I don’t mind who we get from that ‘shortlist’.
Was it not reported recently that Arteta fell out or didn’t get on with certain individuals at the club.? Too aloof
I would go a puppet cos that’s what the baord want
We don’t need a fancy, ‘look at us going for the risky option’ buy.
We need a reliable pair of hands who has got his hands dirty before and some success to boot too.
Arteta hasn’t even managed in the lower leagues, no way should Arsenal be his first job..
Guns
“Perhaps on a good day Mikki and Ramsay 8-10…”
F*ck me, that’s one hell of a good “day” 😀
Martinez was touted as a potential Arsenal manager but he ended up as clueless as Wenger…
Wengerball should be left on the playground where it belongs.
“Arsenal scored 10 goals against Everton beat Huddesfield 5-0 and just beat Burnley 5-0 in a meaningless game.
That’s 20 goals in 4 games ….what about the other 33 games”
Wow
Red just hit bulls eye with one throw.
RT
As usual you are being ridiculous.
For the record Lacazette despite very limited number of games in first half of season still managed to score against both Manchester clubs.
Do you seriously believe that Aubameyang once established and regularly playing in first team is not a top class goalscorer?
I repeat what I have already said we have scored more goals in EPL than Man
Utd, Spurs and Chelsea so goalscoring is not our problem.
However a team which concedes 51 goals in EPL including probably at least 20+ which were avoidable is a major problem.
I personally feel that one criteria the board makebon 5he new coach is that the youth players get a chance, thinking of the future where a sell can make payment for the future of the academy.
Frankly I would be very surprised if the new team is not built on an axis of
The Greek boy
Amn
Nelson
Wilcox
Eddie
I personally think mustafi will be sold
Xhara will be kept an made in to a payer which he is not.
Welbeck will be. Sold
Plus a few more to bring in da yoot
Maybe a younger German coach could play with a sweeper system ?
Could that work ?
DM
I know. Ambitious. Even I don’t believe it.
Arsenal are very short in every single department.
Sixth or seventh is where we are.
The new manager is going to have to sell an idea to potential candidates. It’s going to be very hard without CL for the next couple of seasons and having to pay jokers like Ozil and Jack £500,000 pw to stink up the place.
This will be a massive achievement.
Bottom line is we have a lot of needs, but the most pressing needs are in defense. A new GK, CB and CDM, just to start.
RSPC
Thank you! The sweeper. A totally overlooked position these days. I think there should be a redux of this underrated position.
Having said that, nowadays the GK acts as the sweeper. But I’m all for it.
Guns
I think you misunderstand me, mate. Whilst I do agree with your overall point, I was just pointing out that your wording made it sound like Mkhi and Ramsey would score 8 or 10 each in ONE GAME. That’d be something quite special lol 😉
Jesus, the Arteta delusion is real. Proteges don’t always meet, or indeed exceed the ability of the master. I’m fact, name 3′ managers in world football please. Didn’t work out so well with Giggs, who spent 20 years learning from Fergie, the most successful manager of the modern football era. Giving Arteta the gig with literally zero management experience (not even at managing a youth squad!) will be an absolute comedy show of errors until he loses the dressing room by Feb. Two years as a coach in Pep’s setup and he’s ready for the Arsenal job. Preposterous. Let Arteta… Read more »
If all this rubbish about appointing Arteta, is because he’s spent 2 seasons sitting next to Guardiola. Then are we considering Steve McClaren!!!
He spent 3 seasons sitting next to Sir Alex. Winning 3 X PL, 1 X FAC and 1 X Champions League?
Thought not.
The anti Arteta vibe just makes it an even better appointment.
It will create a buzz and excitement.
Arteta for me! If only piss people off.
“Arsenal remain the only side without an away point in ENGLISH LEAGUE FOOTBALL IN 2018…”
The above is simply shocking.
In fact, its way beyond shocking.
“This season Arsenal have only managed 10 goals sgainst top 6 opposition.’
___
Actually it’s even worse. Only 9 goals.
RT/Guns of Hackney If I apply your logic to our goalscoring potential I suggest that you take a look at the stats of both Kane and Lukaku. Kane has managed just two goals against top 6 teams in EPL i.e. one each against Arsenal and Liverpool. Lukaku who has cost a staggering £76 million transfer fee has managed just one goal against a top 6 team i.e. against Chelsea. So Lacazette’s record in scoring against both Manchester City and United compares favourably particularly when you compare also the amount of game time he has played this season. Focus on the… Read more »
Wenger continuing to brake records for all the wrong reasons. And the akb cunts still only wants to talk about the refs lolololol.
City have Pep
Arsenal have Pep-lite
How we not considering Alan Pardioula is beyond me
Where was all this knowledge when there was actually a debate about Arsene Wenger using tactics after our 46th straight defeat to a top 6 team? Astounding carry-on from the ‘The players let him down’ crew, and the ‘Who else is there?’ Crouch End Tourettes Brigade. / The absolute cheek and audacity of these “true” Arsenal fans. Why aren’t you protesting him to stay. Since you love him so much, since “Theres nobody else who could do a better job than wenger” since it’s so hard to find a replacement. Day after day AKBs would say, “well who are you going… Read more »
Lol when Arteta gets appointed people are gonna be so rattled
By the way, I’m watching the Leicester match on replay and while Mavropanos’s mistake was obviously not a good moment for him, one has to ask who played that 30-yard hard, bouncing back-pass to a CB, a 20-year-old CB at that? Watch it again. Really dumb pass. Also, AMN gets all kinds of praise — and I grant that he is good on the ball — but he made at least two terrible decisions with the ball in our defensive third in the first 30 minutes. He’s not a defender for me at all. More a midfielder, but even then,… Read more »
One thing that will be massively important to the board will be getting the fans united and excited. As a result, I cant see Arteta coming in. It already seems that its mainly the AKBs that are excited about Arteta, because they base decisions on sentiment, not reality. Fact is the AKBs have now become the doom merchants, because they are picking holes in every managerial candidate, because they no longer support Arsenal FC…..that ship sailed a long time ago. Im gonna take a wild guess, that 99% of English AKBs are also Jeremy Corbyn fans as well. Seems to… Read more »
E54
Ignore them. We were right, they were wrong. The whole time. And criticizing a manager is not equivalent to not supporting the team.
These arguments are old and they are over. Wenger is dead. He should have been killed off a long time ago and we were the ones saying so.
It’s over. There’s one guy who comes here simply to abuse other posters and he’ll be binned soon enough.
“Also, AMN gets all kinds of praise — and I grant that he is good on the ball — but he made at least two terrible decisions with the ball in our defensive third in the first 30 minutes. He’s not a defender for me at all. More a midfielder, but even then, what kind of midfielder? People will naturally praise his run and cross to set up Auba — a great play — but what kind of midfielder does that kind of thing? Certainly not a holding or defensive-minded one. Anyways, to me he’s another example of a player… Read more »
gambon
I’ve been saying that for a while: the fans who will be most critical of the new manager and negative about the new regime will be AKBs. They will see this as as opportunity to defend their fallen idol.
I don’t see how Arteta would help unite the fans, though — maybe you’re being facetious? — as plenty of fans will regard this as a bad appointment.
Romford
Agreed. Way, way too lax.
Bamford
I clearly stated that I dont think it will be Arteta, because he wont unite the fans.
The club cant afford to get this wrong. Im sure it will be an Allegri/Ancelotti/Jardim/Enrique.
I think Vieira is the only non obvious choice that will get a look in.
Arsenal fans in panic mode. Classic. This is why we are the worst fanbase in football.
ANYONE would be an improvement after Wenger.
Arteta could be great. He could be shit. The same goes for Allegri.
A track record doesn’t guarantee success in another country, learning a new language, being in a
new league and having really shitty players to work with.
Go with the flow and enjoy the experience.
Bamford 10 Mavropanos and AMN are not Arsenal’s problem. Both are young inexperienced rookies. The problem at Arsenal over last two seasons has been the experienced players in team who have played badly and are clear for all to see are in decline. Everyone could see that Cech is no longer the player he was and as Pedro has posted umpteen times Ospina is not by any figment of imagination a first string goalkeeper. Koscielny was suffering from ligament problem last season and it was announced last summer that he could no longer play two games a week. Monreal started… Read more »
“The club cant afford to get this wrong. Im sure it will be an Allegri/Ancelotti/Jardim/Enrique.” I’m almost 100% sure it won’t be Ancelotti/Enrique – defo interest in Allegri/Jrdim/Arteta/Vieira. I get what’s being said about an appointment to unite the fanbase but Arsenal have never really been high-profile in the way we go about appointments so it wouldn’t surprise me if that was kept the same – especially as Gazidis said he wants the new coach to be able to work well with youngsters. With that in mind, and Per becoming Head of the Academy, the person would have to fit… Read more »
gambon
My bad. I read “can’t” as “can”.
I’ve said it all along: Jardim is our man.
Our defence is absolutely shocking this season. We’re at 51 goals conceded in the league. Last year it was 44. Season before that it was 36. That defence was predominantly Bellerin – Mert – Koscielny – Monreal. Unfortunately, Bellerin still hasn’t learned how to defend, but he might one day with an actual coach, so lets keep him. Mertesacker has retired and Mustafi whilst expensive, isn’t as good. Maybe he could be coached into half decency, but I’d tend to just sell him if we can get good money for him – he doesn’t seem any better than Holding to… Read more »
“but Arsenal have never really been high-profile in the way we go about appointments” Yeah, but to be fair the current Arsenal have very few links to the past. Its Stan, Josh & Ivan in charge now. And if you look at the recent appointments of Sven & Raul, we are very much going out there and bringing big names in from big European clubs. Im not sure you follow up these hires, and spending £105m on 2 strikers, by bringing a rookie like Arteta in. This team desperately needs discipline, standards, effort and a winning mentality, not a work… Read more »
“This team desperately needs discipline, standards, effort and a winning mentality, not a work experience guy learning on the job.”
These two comments are not mutually exclusive and considering the rebuild needed, it wouldn’t surprise to see a younger option (not that Allegri is old mind you) but let’s see how this stuff pans out.
The problem is I dont think a rookie is the best person to handle a rebuild.
This isnt like when Man Utd lost Fergie. We are at rock bottom really, I think it will take a lot of experience to know who needs to be moved on, who needs to come in etc.
“The problem is I dont think a rookie is the best person to handle a rebuild.” It’s a fair point and more than valid. Either way this situation isn’t comparable to Fergie leaving United at all. Like you said, Arsenal are probably as low as they can get right now, but because of that, fan expectation is also quite low. My vision is that it’ll probably take a couple of seasons to get back to where we should be, so whether the person is massively experienced or not, as long as they have a good plan and ideas that the… Read more »
For shame to those that keep peddling Arteta and Vieira for the job. Shame on you. We keep hearing how great Arteta is at coaching with Man City, Where is the evidence that he coaches all players there including the defensive side of the game? Where is the evidence that he has a clue about overall team tactics rather than just working with individual players? All we have heard is that he worked individually with Sterling to improve him. Vieira is just a Man City guinea pig at Man City. He is under no pressure at all to succeed there.… Read more »
Unless there is a world wide crash in the football transfer market — which seems unlikely… our new manager should be an expert at developing young talents and bringing them through… because frankly £35m for Mustafi and Xhaka looks like a huge waste of money… On that criteria Jardim has to be a top contender for what he did in Monaco… ironic considering Wenger managed there too at the beginning of his career. Yes, yes, yes, I suppose it would be another Project Youth, but this time with a manager that actually knew what he was doing… rather than picking… Read more »
*Mustafi and Xhaka each !!!
Bamford10
“I don’t see how Arteta would help unite the fans, though — maybe you’re being facetious? — as plenty of fans will regard this as a bad appointment.”
The Wengerites will be ok with Arteta. You only have to see on here Wallace giving his blessing to the appointment to realise this.
And hipsters.
Wengerites and hipsters will be ok with it.
Oh and those that will eat anything the club say or do.
Gambon I have no issue in recruiting young talented players to build up a successful development programme. However, that should never be at the expense of recruiting top quality players for the first team particularly when you see that experienced players are in decline and there is no-one at club to replace them. In recent years Arsenal’s transfer strategy has been haphazard. One year we spend a decent amount and then the next year we spend virtually nothing. It was fairly obvious at the end of last season that the club had accumulated a lot of dross and the club… Read more »
Talented youngsters always have to be complemented with experienced pros because otherwise they stop progressing because they think they’ve made it… when it reality they have just started.
This is where WEnger went wrong with project youth, he brought in the youth like Cesc and Fabregas but didn’t supplement them with class pros to teach them about the ethos of hard work, winning and professionalism.
Cool, so I’m not crazy or alone in thinking appointing Arteta would be an unmitigated disaster. Was typing on my phone earlier, so the editing is a little off. I think Allegri is a pipe dream. He’s in a much more prestigious (and successful) role at Juve. Jardim is a possibility, because we’re a step up (albeit a small one at this point) from Monaco. Nagelsmann is still a little raw for me, and of course so is Viera. If things had gone differently against Atletico, we might have had a shot at Simeone. I love Simeone. If nothing else,… Read more »
Klopp then Pep*
I strongly suspect this summers changes will be far less sweeping than most of us would like
My gut feeling is two signings and a kid or two
Jamie
“Cool, so I’m not crazy or alone in thinking appointing Arteta would be an unmitigated disaster.”
He’ll most probably be a greener more inexperienced version of Wenger himself. His strengths will be all about when the team have the ball and offensive focus. No evidence at all to suggest he can improve obvious Arsenal weaknesses such as off the ball and defensively.
The only way he would improve matters is to show in the transfer market that he intends to right wrongs in the Arsenal team.
Leeds I totally agree apart from the cesc example
Cesc didn’t need coaching and was basically a complete product by the age of 19 or so
You’re right in general but cesc isn’t the best example because he was fucking amazing even without coaching
Why is everyone wetting themselves about Allegri? What has he done outside of the best clubs in Italy?
Has he managed abroad? No.
Look at conte. Won the league and has totally bombed.
Just because Allegri is everyone’s choice doesn’t mean to say that the appointment is bulletproof.
I’d like to think that if Arteta got the job, he would be welcomed.
Relax.
Ishola –
He’s definitely more green than Wenger was. Arteta hasn’t even managed a youth squad. Like being a coach for 2 seasons under Pep (who also gets it wrong in Europe) somehow qualifies him to manage a club the size of Arsenal, even if we are on our knees at the moment.
Hiring Arteta would put us on our asses before Christmas. Hope I’m proved utterly wrong if we do end up appointing him.
*I meant to say Cesc and Nasri 😉
I am still at a loss how Alex Iwobi gets into the team week in week out. He, Ramsey and Holding to some extent were really poor against a Leicester team who were there for the taking.
If we think of a manager as being like a CEO in a regular company – would a regular company employ someone with no experience as CEO in a major corporation just because they have a reference of a world reknowned CEO in another company? Only a small company would consider that imo Arteta *might* be brilliant but the single evidence we have of this is a few quotes from his boss. And at the end of the day, he operates without half the pressure of pep. All eyes are on pep and he is the one responsible for 80%… Read more »
With you all the way on Arteta as manager – except you forgot to mention two of his best points: he knows the score at Arsenal (thus won’t moan all season long, like Conte, about not being able to make expensive signings), and his wife is gorgeous.
There’s a really senior manager in my company who rates me very highly because I contribute ideas he’d not have considered. I can add 10% to his work despite not reporting to him.
He would give me a glowing reference on a heartbeat
But – that doesn’t mean I could actually do what he does and carry the responsibility he does. In reality in can’t. Not yet anyway
So if Bagelsmann rolled up at 30 would that be okay?
Yes he’s been great but only over two seasons.
Let’s not forget that Wenger came in with fuck all under his belt. A bit of Monaco. A couple of sackings and the J League.
Honestly.
The guy hasn’t been appointed and already there is another split in the arsenal fan base.
We’re worse than the scouse bastards.
Comments section and pedro’s Posts are so repetitive these days. Can’t wait for the fuggin announcement to be made and window to open.
It was quite nostalgic watching last night. It was 90 minutes of totally predictable play which summed up the Wenger era of the past 10 years.
1.
It was quite nostalgic watching last night. It was 90 minutes of totally predictable play which summed up the Wenger era of the past 10 years.
1. Lots of pretty, tippy-tappy stuffy in the middle of the park and no end product.
2. Shocking schoolboy defending – where was Kolisanac for their 3rd ?
3. Debateable sending off
4. “We played with great spirit…….” – and Lost !
“A bit at Monaco” GH?
He won the French League, French Cup, final of a European Cup, later stages of the old Champions League and was managing seasoned international players.
Wenger’s resume pisses all over Vieira and Arteta when Arsenal first appointed him.
We should hire Alan Pardew and Mark Hughes. They can joint coach.
IN PARDEW WE TRUST
Ishola
Phffft.
He managed Glen Hoddle who hates disabled people…
Whatever. The point is…it was Arsene who.
Allegri has done nothing outside of Juve. Tanked at AC and is currently with the best and richest club.
I hope we do hire Arteta just because it will freak the arsenal fans out.
Van gaal for me.
Love me a bit of sideways footie on a saturday mornin
I don’t get the hype with Arteta?!? I might be completely wrong but I think there’s a degree of genius by association going on here. Yes, Pep says he’s good. So what?(He’s hardly going to say otherwise, is he, about someone on his staff) Would anyone even notice him if he was working in the same role, somewhere like Aberdeen? or Stoke? Look beyond the Man City label, and I think he is nowhere near qualified or ready for a world wide club like Arsenal. Sure Arteta was a former player but we have other more iconic players who have… Read more »
GOB
…and some rolling about the grass in his suit.
Go for Van Bronkhorst.
Give Jose a billion and he’d sort it out.
He would be so motivated to trounce Wenger.
Jose in!