Arsenal on lockdown with press, here’s where clues are pointing (long read)

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Grow up you soppy melt. Wipe those tears away. Turn off your internet and stop searching ‘Wenger good times 1998’.

It’s done.

Time to look at the future and what Arsenal are trying to do to manipulate the media, and your tiny little minds.

Let’s get one thing clear, the MSM are struggling to keep pace with what’s going on with the new manager hunt. I read one publication say Arsenal weren’t likely to make an ‘esoteric’ choice when it came to hiring. Esoteric? Amazing how some in our press are against any sort of innovative thought when it comes to picking a new leader.

Even the great one, the king, lord of the rumour, Sir David Ornstein, has bugger all to give to the story outside the obvious. £15m a year net Enrique feels off, Brendy has been ruled out (YES) and Mourinho’s assistant is not on the cards. He couldn’t even give us anything interesting on Allegri who ‘might’ be leaving.

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The real story going on behind the scenes is this…

NO ONE HAS A CLUE

Don’t pay attention to any ITKs feeding you duff speculation, because they don’t know. Journalists don’t know either, because the club is keeping things seriously tight. Even the Allegri stories have me deeply suspicious. I read that he earns £6m a year, I can’t help but think he’s agitating for more money in a world where he’s a top 3 coach and he’s earning £9m less than Pep G. I’m also wondering if he’d leave a team that’s top 4 in Europe before he’s won the Champions League?

I might be totally wrong, but my vibe is the club are gearing up for a tier 3 manager. You all need to make your peace here and deal with it.

We’re going all in on an LA Rams Sean Mcvay special. The circumstantial evidence is mounting up.

ESPN has told the world we’re chasing a young manager, leaking to Mark Ogden, and that’s come from Stan’s people. No doubt.

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Jezza Wilson, trusted confidant of the club for many years indicated last week the club are after a ‘cheap’ manager.

John Cross went super specific and said we could sign a young manager, or a not sign a young manager.

‘Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis is known to fancy the idea of a young head coach – Patrick Vieira, Mikel Arteta and Julian Nagelsmann all fit into that category – while is also open to the idea of a bigger name.’

Poor old John, not even a 2004 vintage bottle of Jacobs Creek can get him an in. But he has the same basics as the others. Follow the people that matter to the club. If they don’t have an in, be sure that no one on twitter does either. Sky don’t have an in on this either, nor do The Independent. Everyone is speculating.

My gut says we’re going tier three because it makes a lot of sense. Allegri is an absolute dream, but he’ll come with expensive baggage, and he’ll get a monstrous shock to the system because he’ll be working in an environment that has none of the things he’s used to. If it goes wrong, he’ll cost a bomb. To make it go right, it’ll cost a bomb. Same to Conte, Carlo and Enrique. Big names come with pricey riders.

The club are going to want to rein in control of the football side. They’ve just blown big money on a proper sporting director from Barcelona, they’ve just hired the best scout in the business, now they need to make a move for a coach that’ll adapt to the new setup, not the other way around.

Below are some thoughts on what I think you need to rock it as a manager, and why a tier three is an interesting notion.

> Football is not rocket science. Taking on a job in the game when you’re inexperienced is not comparable to taking on a job as the CEO of Microsoft after you graduate. You need to be able to convince a small group of men that you can communicate a path forward, and deliver success. You need to be able to hire the sharpest experts to give you the right tools to make the best decisions, even if those experts are smarter than you. You need to be able to bend the press to your will. You need to be able to make ruthless decisions. You need to be able to motivate people at all levels to die for you. You need to be able to innovate in real-time.

Ok, so football isn’t that easy, but what I’m saying is this: splitting an atom is harder.

> Respect is key.  Can you control a room of immature young men? The common belief is if you’re dealing with Cassano like characters of the past who’d ask ‘can you do this?’, you need to be able to drop 6 CL winners medals out your pants to prove your integrity. But that’s the not the reality of modern football. Read Carlo’s book, his view is that elite players want to know one thing: Can you improve me?

It’s all about the manager’s ability to elevate a players career. There are two managers in Germany under the age of 32 who are rocking the top 4 this season.  Tedesco has a degree in business engineering and innovation management, he’s not an explayer. Nagelsmann lost his career to injury at U19 level at Augsburg and has never won a thing. They’re not winning hearts and minds because of their medals, it’s their ideas and ability to transmit them with force. Whereas on the flip side, legendary players like Clarence Seedorf are tanking at Milan and taking Deportivo down despite having a trophy cabinet loaded with elite accolades. Respect in management isn’t necessarily your experience in the game, or in the dugout.

> Football is about ideas. If we’re going for a young manager, we need to find one that has been influenced by great people and has demonstrable aptitude to deliver those ideas with extreme intensity. Julian Nagelsmann has been influenced by Thomas Tuchel, one of the most technical coaches in the game. He’s taken his ideas and approach and added a little empathy to it. He’s drawn thinking from Pep G, Klopp and Rangnick. The best artists don’t borrow, they steal…

Arteta is a key member of a Manchester City setup that’s just delivered a Premier League title – in the most competitive era of the competition – at an absolute canter. He is working with the greatest football innovator of our time, and he’s playing a key role. Pep is on the record saying what a f*cking great job he’s doing.

“I’m not the right guy to talk about that because my opinion of Mikel is overwhelming,”

“He deserves the best, hopefully. We are so comfortable, not just me, working with him. One of the reasons we had success this season is because Mikel is here.

“I hear there are many names for the next period in Arsenal. But I don’t know the plan for Arsenal deserves all the best and everything they want.”

The man clearly has ideas, and big name players are clearly listening and improving under his guidance. Don’t tell me a man of his intelligence would shit the bed at Arsenal.

> Horses for courses when it comes to experience. Arteta doesn’t have any management experience, but he’s played at a higher level than Nagelsmann across Europe. He’s smart, speaks all the languages and most importantly, understands how to deal with players who earn more than £50k a week. He knows how to talk the talk with big names, maybe an advantage at a club that’s lost its way when it comes to respect (yes Mesut, we’re looking at you).

Nagelsmann has done the f*cking business. He took a group of average players, instilled a culture, a footballing philosophy, and delivered Champions League qualification for a team called Hoffenheim (maybe twice in a row).

One has experience working a small team to its max potential in a small league. One knows how to make good players great at a massive club, and has the ultimate ‘I can make you better’ guarantee, that being a PL winners medal. Ideas are still the greatest currency, it’s just a question of what you think is more important from an experience perspective when you’re working at Arsenal.

> Connections. I was debating the merits of an inexperienced coach yesterday with some Gooner pals, one of the points was that no one in Europe is looking at Arteta and it’d be a substandard move. My counterpoint was no one in Europe was looking to hire Zidane, but Madrid went there and they’re about to play in their third CL final. No one was looking at Pep G before he took over Barcelona, even the great man himself told their board they didn’t have the cajones to hire him. The reason both of these players worked?

They had a tie to the club. It makes things so much more palatable to the fans. That’s why a Vieira and Thierry would last longer with Arsenal than they would anywhere else. They have the good graces of the fans. We’d will them on. Arteta is an Arsenal fan, the CEO likes him, he has fans in the backroom team, and though some of the reports are he’s a tough character, I’ve no doubt he’d be able to integrate quicker with the squad than an outsider. Same with Vieira, he might not be setting the world alight in New York, but it’s a pony league and sometimes the stars don’t align in football. Enrique was average at Celta and Roma, then he landed at Barca and elevated them to great heights. Diego Simeone had a patchy career before moving back to his old club where he set the world alight. Sometimes there’s an extra power in having ties to the club.

That’s my spiel. You can call me a hipster, but I see a lot of sense in doing something different. There’s literally no better time to try radical strategy. The fruit is low hanging and the fans will be up for something clever after 10 years of bland. Surround a young tier 3 manager with the best in the business and you have a good chance of creating something exciting we can all get behind.

Is it worth me giving airtime to the leaks in the press about Arsenal players thinking Ozil is an expensive waster? Not really. I’ve been telling you for a while he’s not at Arsenal for the trophies, it’s all about the lifestyle. Monchi said recently he liked mercenaries because they took the money and did the job. I’m not sure you can call Ozil a mercenary, because he turns up when he fancies it, literally choosing the games he wants to play. Rank amateur. Remember, there’s a reason not one top club in Europe came in for him when he was earning £140k a week heading into the final year of his deal… he’s not the full package.

Right, see you in the comments.

 

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Damn it!! Just lost ze concentration, ze tro4hy got stolen!

gambon

Im not happy at the thought of someone thats never managed a single game, such as Arteta. Age isnt really an issue, but someone like Arteta has been doing a very different job to the job he would have to do at Arsenal. We are 6th, we have a serious rebuild needed, and the standards in the playing squad have been allowed to drop significantly. I think we need a winner, with very high standards to drag this club back up the table. Not a rookie, hipster manager looking to try out his latest 2-3-2-1-2 formation. Arteta is undoubtedly a… Read more »

Leftsidesanch

Zidane and Pep at least had some managerial experience before moving up into the big jobs.

Arteta has none, if we had to go that route I’d pluck for Pat.

I still think we’ll go for Allegri, I think we need a managerial signing that shows that we need business and not more of that Wenger syndrome of trying to the smartest guy in the room when the logical option is staring at you in the face.

Goongoonergone

Wonder how well Zidane would have done if he were not at Madrid with all their stars?

kel

Pedro, the only peron we should be hiring is Jardim as he ticks all the boxes plain and simple. And it should not take forever either as the summer is short. All those other names like arteta, patrick are based on sentiments which does not apply in competitive sport. The worst part is if the club takes all this time and makes the wrong appointment. Gazidis should have had a short list of 3 ppl long before we sacked wenger.

Rambo Ramsey

“That’s my spiel. You can call me a hipster, but I see a lot of sense in doing something different. There’s literally no better time to try radical strategy.”

No better time, really? You want Arsenal to become permanent Europa slummers?

Leftsidesanch

*mean business, not need!

kel

@ gambon
What anout Jardim

Leftsidesanch

Contrary to what’s being said about there being no process until the end of the season I’d be shocked if Arsenal didn’t have discussions with who they want to take over Wenger. There may be a few things to iron out before the dotted line is signed but I reckon it won’t be far off completion whoever it is.

kel

What about jardim????

seniorgooner

the new manager must come in with his own full coaching staff as coaching is as big a weakness as our dodgy defense

salpardisenyc

Vieira hasn’t done bad in the MLS in his first season he finished on 4th then 2nd in highest point tally’s. Little bearing on final outcome as there’s a playoff which top twelve quality for, turns it all a bit farcical for me but thats the format. From table to inner league knockout stages before champion crowned. Really hard to throw stones at house Zidane is building, into 3rd straight Champions league final, a very telling stat is he’s not lost at the Camp Nou on four successive visits. He’s won everything in short order, long list a pretty illustrious… Read more »

Mr Graham

We need the experience of Allegri or Ancelotti, to sort out the mess Wenger leaves behind. 50% of the squad not good enough, 25% with proper coaching could be OK, and 25% that are Arsenal quality. So no thanks to Arteta. Pep & ZZ took over top squads, not needing major rebuilding.

Ian

For me Jardim is the essence of everything that the club is looking for. He took a team of young and largely average players and turned them into one of the greatest teams in Europe. His record in developing talented players is unprecedented and exactly what the young talent at Arsenal need. He obviously has the man-management skills and knows how to develop players. His adaptive tactical approach to the game is also a plus. I think the board should break the bank to secure Jardim; for me there is no other option.

Emiratesstroller

Pedro You are 100% correct that Arsenal will maintain silence until they have concluded the appointment. That has been always the club’s style and everything which has been written in the media is either managed or pure speculation. What I do believe is that there will be no announcement until the end of the season and Arsene has left the club. The key date for announcements will be in my view BEFORE 1st June. That is the date when season ticket renewals have to be submitted. I am fairly sure that the club will wish to make the appointment by… Read more »

China

Obviously being captain and being manager are fundamentally different, but Arteta was a really underwhelming captain and oversaw our era of the fewest trophies despite having a better squad than we currently do.

I don’t doubt that the guy is extremely clever but I am suspicious of his ability to motivate and lead people from the front considering he never managed it on the field and is effectively supporting Pep in his role with none of the focus on him

Doublethink

1. Allegri
2. Jardim
3. Fonseca

Arteta’s too much of a gamble for me, it could be genius but there’s a good chance it could be disastrous considering he’s never managed a game before. Vieira and Arteta though could be interesting not sure how it would be work though.

azed

I for one don’t think Ivan and Josh are stupid to compare the success of the Rams with a rookie coach to the EPL. American sports don’t have relegation or salary cap. Going with a cheap manager in the EPL would cost us way more than going big. Southampton rode their luck with selling players, now they are in a relegation battle. Arsenal are currently 6th and would need over 100M just to compete for top 4. If we screw this managerial appointment, we would need at least 500M just to reach top 4. Look at how much UTD have… Read more »

Doublethink

Pochettino would not only be hilarious, it would make a statement too, probably put Spurs back a few years. Levy would go to war before letting it happen though.

China

We all know wenger let’s players manage themselves on the field. The players from the invincibles did it. If arteta is this great thinker and leader why did we see so little of that when he was here? He didn’t drive the team. He didn’t lead by example. He didn’t motivate the team to do better or achieve more and he didn’t really organize the team any more than the basic expectations of a CM He was a decent player and by no means bad, but if we’re going to ask someone to polish this turd he has a lot… Read more »

MGooner

Long story short Arsenal would not be interested in hiring a top coach as he would not take the shit AW has taken all those years about us being a big club and yet having no money to spend. A top manager would turn the heat on the owners immediately if he has no money to expend. Look at Conte, he is no mucking around with the Ckavs owner. So they will hire a rookie at this level to be able to fire him easilt and blame him easily. During that time, they will ensure, they are still pocketing the… Read more »

Ishola70

lol

Much more palatable to the fans? Arteta?

Haven’t got that sense on here.

TonyD

China
I think Wenger would have kept Arteta’s wings clipped when he was captain.

Not that I am advocating Arteta; my first choice has always been Jardim.

Just have to sit back while the speculation merry go round continues until the club makes an announcement.

Ishola70

Arteta would be too comfortable a purpose.

The club needs a jolt not a continuation of Wenger links.

If young less recognised manager it is let it be an outsider Nagelsmann.

Really some of you talk as if everything is rosy in the garden.

Two seasons out of CL and 6th in the league miles from the top of the table is not rosy.

Marc

MGooner

If what you say is true then why did Sanllehi join?

MGooner

Whatever manager we hire, we have to address the team weaknesses. Wilshere could not get games in an average team last year and he should be sold. Xhaka is a disaster waiting to happen, no pace, no dribbling skills. If we keep Ramsey, we need a solid back up as he is injury prone. Micki is a great player but we need a back up. Ozil was sold by RM for a reason. We were always in the top 4 with lesser known players before he and Sanchez came here. So, we need a midfielder on the right side who… Read more »

batman

When was the last time Arsenal made a right choice in the transfer window? There is something completely wrong with Arsenal. I hope with Arsene gone, we will kill the Boy and let the man be born… but seems like they are looking at another Arsene to manage the boys. Just wait for Gazidis to come up with big statement about the hard work they have done in finding an unknow gem and they preserve the value of Arsenal. I am sure they will make the right decision just like they did with RVP, CESC, MATA, Hazard, Kylian, Martial,Higuain, Goal… Read more »

MGooner

Lots being said about the Barca chap.

Remind me how much he had to expend at Barca. And did he have power there?

Only time will tell if we hire a top gaffer. But I am not holding my breath as I have 0 trust in Ktonke and IG who has zero experience in Europe.

TheLegendaryDB10

My personal choice would be to have Allegri as manager and I think that Jardim is a good shout (he knows how to develop youth), but reading Pedders article made me think that the club are maybe considering Nagelsmann as manager (who has managerial experience) with Arteta as his assistant (who knows the club).

The key to all this will be that the Kroenkes will want the club to be back in the top 4 as they need the club’s value to stay or even increase so that they can succesfully manage the Rams move to LA.

Marc

MGooner

The Spanish guy as you call him worked under Sanllehi when he was at Barca so I don’t think not having all the power is the issue.

You seem to be chucking a lot of negatives out there whilst not seeming to know anything about the new club structure.

englandsbest

On the ball, Pedro, nobody knows. But (as you say) the signs point to a tier 3 manager. My gut feeling stays with Mikel Arteta.

It’s good that Wenger has praised David Dein so highly. His departure signalled the decline in Arsenal. It’s my opinion that ownership counts for more than management when it comes to creating an elite Club. With luck (and with Wenger gone) Gazidis may do a Dein-like job.

Thanos

Nobody knows nothing would surprise me either

Dissenter

This is really about power…a battle for how power is allocated.
The dynamic is set; competent manager vs the troika of Gazidis+Mislintat+Sanlehi
To avoid this dynamic, the troika will choose a milquetoast baby manager that owes them for the ascension from nothing to Arsenal manager.

A reputable manager will stand up these three and remind them who manages the team
Mislintat has a history of intrusion into the managers job at Dortmund, any manager interviewing will know this already.

Mangers of repute can smell inexperience from afar when they meet the interviewing team because they have been there before.

TheLegendaryDB10

I’ll say one thing though, and this was discussed here in the past: now that AW has left, IG and the Kroenkes are now open targets.

And the one thing that does unite us is that we all distrust IG and the Kroenkes.

Dissenter

This quest for a young manager is an extension of Wengerism. The notion that we ae going to get a manager from nowhere and give him the kesy to Arsenal for another long term stay so that we can clap him off in 2043 is really silly. How about we get a 50 year old man who knows his job, stays around for 3-5 years, stabilizes the club and moves on to something else. What’s wrong with operating like a big club? Big clubs cannot keep their manager’s for too long; if they don’t get fired for not meeting expectations,… Read more »

Marko

Well, that puts that one to bed… There sure are a lot of stupid people on Le Grove who would think that Ozil can pick and choose when he plays .

Pierre explain how earlier in the season he was out with illness but was then pictured in Istanbul with a model? Wenger said he had illness then so what gives? Look get your head out of your ass and think okay

Wallace

“Don’t pay attention to any ITKs feeding you duff speculation, because they don’t know. Journalists don’t know either, because the club is keeping things seriously tight. ”

it’s only Pedro knows that nobody knows

Marko

https://youtu.be/Nl-WyKFezig

How do you embed shit

Ishola70

Allegri is drifting out in the betting.

Still fav but drifted out.

Not good.

It’s gonna be a non big name isn’t it lol

Chrispy

Pedro, you’re no hipster unless you have a tactical beard. Do you have a tactical beard, Pedro?
I’m excited for the future for first time in ages. I’ve kept my ST on the back burner after my silent no show protest and now I cant wait for the new season to start.
I’d take Arteta, Nags’ or Jardin to be honest and some bargain jewels unearthed by our new HOR.
Interesting times AT LAST!

salpardisenyc

Feel Pedro’s onto something with this post. As has been discussed Ivan has a plan in motion, that plan is a structured organization and it really sounds like he wants a young manager in. Really is out of the Barcelona playbook, looking inward or very close to clubs identity, hiring young managers with loads of potential. Raul in his 15 years with the Catalans has seen that method work insanely well, from Rijkaard, Pep to Enrique. Easy to dismiss it with likes of Allegri or Jardim on offer but if the risk pays off, hero move. If not were looking… Read more »

TR7

Arsene Wenger is now being linked to Napoli job. Would be amazing if we got Sarri.

Bamford10

Legendary “we all distrust IG and the Kroenkes” Yeah, sorry, but I don’t distrust any of these people, so we’re not all unified on that point. Now, I don’t necessarily “trust” any of them either; for me the jury is still out on all of them in a way. Re Gazidis, I’m pretty sure I like him, though time will tell if I continue to like him. (Please don’t bring up his “Wenger is the greatest” poppycock talk; that was merely the company line. One must parrot the company line at times in business; this is just a fact of… Read more »

MGooner

With all due respect Marc, what exactly is there to inspire confidence in this new structure as you call it. What exactly has IG achieved over the past 10 years as he has been here since 2007. We’ve heard that structure thing when he joined back then with the expensive admin hires. The guy he brought in to work on contract renewals did not exactly cover himself in glory. How about sponsorship deals which were renewed over the past 10 years, not sure we did well there too. IG’s track record speaks for itself – He is out of his… Read more »

Bamford10

Dissenter Who said selecting a younger manager means he is going to stay at Arsenal for 30 years? No one. We could hire a younger manager and keep him for 3-4 years. If you go with a younger manager, it’s obviously because you think he is smart tactically, is ambitious and energetic, is personable and can work well with Sanllehi and Mislintat — not because you want him to stick around for three decades. None of which is to say I’m opposed to hiring a more experienced manager, but I’m not opposed to a younger guy simply because he’s younger.… Read more »

Ishola70

TR7
“Arsene Wenger is now being linked to Napoli job”

lol if there is one place that would not suit Wenger it is Naples.

The Neopolitans would eat him alive.

Really Serie A in itself is not Arsene Wenger.

TheLegendaryDB10

Bamford

I know what you mean. But ultimately this does mean that they are now genuinely open to criticism unlike before where they all conveniently hid behing AW. Remember how Chips Keswick conveniently stated that they were supportive of AW in all situations?

But as you say, time will tell. For now I am happy that the club are finally moving forward and I am genuinely looking forward to see what happens next.

TheLegendaryDB10

*behind

Dissenter

If we are going to wait until June 12th to make an announcement then we have to be amateurs
I thought they had a contingency plan worked out for this.

Bamford10

MGooner

The un-impressiveness of the sponsorship deals cannot be pinned on Gazidis. As Wenger made us less and less relevant, less and less respected football-wise — made us into a bit of a joke, in fact — this hurt our brand image and in turn our commercials. Wenger is responsible for this, not Gazidis.

Dissenter

Bamford “None of which is to say I’m opposed to hiring a more experienced manager, but I’m not opposed to a younger guy simply because he’s younger. I want the smartest manager available, regardless his age.” Actually the reason why you have an experienced manager is because the departing manager is leaving a major void behind. Young managers run out of gas quickly, especially when the shite hits the fan. Smarter and more hipster looking does not correspond to competence at this level, not when there is so much riding in the decision I do think we have a very… Read more »

MGooner

Bamford, why did IG not ask for AW’s head before then as he was hurting the club’s brand and finances? Why did he wait for so long as after all he was Stan’s man and had the mandate. As I said, imo, his track record speaks against him. He has had a fat paycheck for 10 years and is now taking a bit of risk as he could afford to retire. I have never understood what exactly he does at the club? He seems to be just like an office manager, not a business driver who will grab this club… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

Reports we’re in talks with Leno, makes sense since he has a release clause that expires soon.
Not a bad option overall, if we can get 10m for Ospina it only costs us about 7-12 mil depending on which report is true. If that gets done quickly we can focus on the other positions that needs fixing.

Guns of SF

Please God no Arteta
Arsenal and IG would be making a huge error passing on bigger names.
When the younger man fails to meet expectations, IG would be fired

A named coach has the experience and knowledge to fix this fucking mess.

Guns of SF

The club will making a calculated gamble with a younger manager. If they fail, I suppose they can blame the manager for his lack of experience etc.
If he succeeds then they look like roses.

its a risky situation. The fans are already on edge and need to see positive change and amibtion. not risk

Break the back for Luis or Allegri… give them 200k to spend. Lets see what happens! At lease CL qualification! Can only go up from there!

Guns of SF

“bank” lol

Marko

Reports we’re in talks with Leno, makes sense since he has a release clause that expires soon.

Yes please. In this day and age an okay would cost you 30 million at least so to get a good keeper who’ll still get better for less is a bargain

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Marko
Would you lodge Cech selling to another club or retain as a gk coach’?

TheLegendaryDB10

Guns of SF

Only £200k??? My god you are being cheap! You would most certainly be making our board delirious and they would probably sign you up as manager ASAP!! 😉

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Potential selling

Cech
Ospina
Mustafi
Monreal
Carzola
Welbeck
Wiltshire
Any 5/7 will do

Guns of SF

DB10
I will manage the team for free!
Give me 200M
50M for DM
50 for Mid/Winger
33.3333 for 2 CB and keeper

There you go…. sign me up IG

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

How is franny coquelin doing over in Spain ?

Leedsgunner

Tuchel Sarri Allegri or Jardim would be the candidates any of our rivals would be going for in our position so why not us? Barring them, I would like Simeone here too. Sarri for Wenger manager swap would be interesting but I doubt Wenger would go for it. His pride won’t let him do it. He would be completely exposed if he didn’t do at least as as well as Sarri has done. Would Sarri do better than 6th? I would be amazed if he didn’t. He has done a great job with Napoli, making them into a tight defensive… Read more »

Akilan

I like the idea of Arteta, Nagelsmann & co, but honestly this is not the right time. People give the examples of ZZ, Pep et al. But they were CL winning clubs. Puyol & Ramos are warriors. By default, these clubs have a winning DNA. Not anyone associated with Barca/Real would accept second place, let alone 6th. IMO, our mentality is probably our biggest challenge( yes we’ve got some shite players) but our mentality has always been our worst nightmare. Allegri will instill a proper big club mentality. Man can’t let Douglas Costa have two days off for the birth… Read more »

London gunner

We can’t really risk Arteta at this stage.

Sometimes the obvious choice aka a big name manager is the best one.

You don’t want a young manager taking over whole. The clubs a mess you want them to take over when the club is in a good position after a experienced managed has stabilised the ship.

Guns of SF

Arteta is shit. Average player. Had a few good seasons at Everton but aside from that…. looks like a clown. So what he is with Pep… he is not the new Pep.
As many state,.,,, we need a culture shift. that takes guts, and experience for it to happen.

By default, the tendency is to go back to what was “normal” or comfortable, but that is the malaise… the trap what we risk without a major change.
A culture change takes years.

Ishola70

Yeah it’s a bit silly Akilan to keep to keep citing what Real Madrid and Barca do.

They operate from a standing of huge strength.

Arsenal in comparison do not.

TitsMcGee

Not hot on Arteta. He was playing with some of these same players a few years ago. Doesn’t really strike me as an enforcer either which is what these lil babies need.

Uk bubbler

The thought of hiring a young manager with no experience fills me with dread. You keep referring to the Rams. That team was already loaded with 1st round talent. Like comparing apples and oranges.

I think we need an established manager, now is not the time to be experimenting with some young buck. To be honest I would take Eddie howe over Arteta if we must go down this road.

Juves manager for me

TitsMcGee

I really hope Wenger goes to Napoli. I really do lol

Marko

Tell Cech that we’re getting a new number one no matter what and if he’d like to stay on as a number two then great tell him he can be a coach too when he retires but if he has the notion that he still wants to be a number one then sell. He’s got to be number two next season. I think he’d stay on for another year tbh I always assumed though that if he was ever going to be a coach he’d go back to Chelsea for it

Guns of SF

Allegri
Enrique
Ancelloti

forget the rest
We need proven winners with experience
IG must be shitting himself. knowing that he wont be able to bully the new manager around…

Marko

Wenger at Napoli honestly is the funniest thing that I’ve heard in a while. Him in Naples under DiLaurentis who’s a madman at best with their ultras??? I’d be shocked if he lasted a season shocked.

Ishola70

Wenger would have a nervous breakdown in Naples.

Just not his thing at all.

Ishola70

The great man still has his spin doctors though don’t he linking him to clubs that really everyone knows he is not going to join.

Spinning to the last.

jwl

I will be shocked if we hire third tier manager but if we do it has to be Vieira, never Arteta. Vieira is proper legend at Arsenal and he has managerial experience while Arteta is not legend and is only a coach. Surely Arsenal are looking to get big name manager, club fired Wenger because we underperformed for two seasons at least, we need manager who has ability to make players better than sum of their parts and get back into Champs League. I wonder about rumours Klopp and Mourinho assistants coming to Arsenal, maybe club is looking to hire… Read more »

Ishola70

“I remember the back streets of Naples, beggars covered in rags”

The Camorra will pay Wenger a welcoming visit lol

David Smith

Anyone who believes it will be a tier three manager should put money on them, big odds out there as Allegris odds tumble.
With Allegri, surprised there is not more talk about Chelsea.
Not sure how popular he is with the players, but don’t think MA would be the worst option, if he doesn’t work, easier and cheaper to ditch than some of the behemoths mentioned.

Ishola70

Get with the vibe jwl.

While all the other leading clubs in the EPL have recognisable managers that front their clubs and are seen as the undisputed front men Arsenal is going to be a mish mash of the three amigos with Gazidis overseeing them.

That’s what Gazidis meant when he said Wenger is irreplaceable. The great man can’t be replaced in any recognisable traditional way. Impossible.

Marko

It’s not even about mad fans he’d lose 4 games on the trot and get sacked. He’d be found out very quickly honestly. Straight away murmurs of awful training methods

Paulinho

Can’t help thinking Swansea’s fall from grace is some sort karmic pay-back for their new manager’s smart arse post-match analogies after his initial bright start.

jwl

Ishola70 – current vibe fills me with dread. Pedro will have to rename blog el-grove if club hire Arteta but we will still be complaining about what a twat our manager is. I would prefer Sean Dyche before Arteta.

Marko

Can’t help thinking Swansea’s fall from grace is some sort karmic pay-back for their new manager’s smart arse post-match analogies after his initial bright start

They’re being punished for having a manager who seems likable and nice? They should have hired a cunt I suppose

TheLegendaryDB10

So do I Marko, so do I.

And that picture of Higuain and Dybala celebrating is exactly what I hope our players will do when winning against the shits down the road.

Ishola70

Allegri now talking about sitting down with Juve at the end of the season and a bit of sweet talk from him to them.

They will offer him an improved contract and he will stay.

Sadly looks like it’s a no go for Allegri.

champagne charlie

Pedro

Shut up. I have money on Allegri, so its fucking Allegri you cunt!

That’s how it works, stop putting ideas into Ivan’s head (I know he reads the blog). K thx

Ishola70

Pedro made a point about Gazidis wanting to feel in charge regarding the new manager position after being overshadowed and dwarfed by Wenger all these years.

But should it really be about Gazidis and his new found power?

Gazidis’ job is to find the best manager possible not recruiting on the basis of not wanting to be overshadowed again by a manager. Too strong a personality or power.

champagne charlie

“I have a very good rapport with the club and we are in sync,” Allegri revealed. “As proved over the last four years, where the team was turned inside out during the first season and the club worked so well to bring in players of quality alongside those who had not just technique, but great human VALUES.” “At the end of the day, in football you need more than technique to win. You need other VALUES that can push you on during difficult times. “At the end of the season, we’ll sit down and talk as we always do and… Read more »

Ishola70

Gazidis watch yourself.

Recruiting on the basis of your own new found power and not on the premise of the best manager available.

They’ll be coming for you Gazidis.

Freddie Ljungberg

I refuse to think Gazidis is stupid enough to take a huge gamble on hiring a rookie manager.

He has to know he’s going to be the target for the fans discontent, from wobs and akbs alike if something goes wrong.

If the club goes with an uninspiring, unambitious choice the fans will turn on him quickly if if it goes sideways.
If on the other hand they go with someone like Allegri, Jardim, Sarri etc and it still doesn’t work out I think his position is still safe.