Goodbye, Arsene

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The end is here, after 22 years in charge of Arsenal, Arsene Wenger bids farewell to the home fans.

It’ll be emotional. It’s a one of a kind moment you’ll never experience again. If you’re lucky enough to attend, cherish the afternoon because you’ll never see another manager like him.

He was the master innovator, he brought the swagger, he made foreign managers cool, he made sexy football a thing in the Premier League, he made boring Arsenal the best ticket in the world. He gave us trophies, art and an unbeaten season. His intellect was refreshing, his class unmatched, his impact on Arsenal will never be forgotten.

Think of the players he sent our way (I’m about to borrow Andrew Allen’s format from Arseblog here)?

I’ll never forget how exciting Nik Anelka was, that pace and coolness was electric to watch. Patrick Vieira was a colossal presence in our midfield, and those Roy Keane battles are the stuff of legend. That Marc Overmars goal away at Old Trafford. Freddie Ljungberg getting snapped up after England played Sweden, to score with a cheeky lob on his debut against United. Selling Anelka, and bringing in Davor Suker (who was a bit disappointing for the most part). Not signing Patrick Kluivert. Passing on the De Boer twins because of class reasons. Building a new training ground. Signing Thierry Henry and Robert Pires who were Championship Manager heroes. Giving life to the famous back 5. Petit and that porn flick song. That gold kit. Ray Parlour in the FA Cup final. Pascal fucking Cygan. Igor Stepanovs. Ashley Cole busting into the first team. Lauren from defensive midfield to right back. Thierry from the wing to striker. That goal where he set himself up and lobbed Barthez. The Dennis/Theirry axis of amazing. Sylvain Wiltord and that pirouette thing he did. Signing Nwankwo Kanu and that hattrick against Chelsea. Kaba Diawara vs Leeds United. Alex Manninger saving penalties. Wenger doing a madness and signing 8 players in a summer. Richard Wright being shite. Gio Van Bronckhurst.  The FA Cup finals and the wins. Learning to love Cardiff because we fucking owned the place. Jen Lehmann being our only transfer move. A whole season unbeaten. I could go on…

The second half of his tenure wasn’t quite as grandiose. But look, Arsenal fans are a weird old bunch, in ten years time, the hipsters will be watching back classic banter years games with a weird fondness.

Yaya Sanogo starting against Bayern Munich. Andrey Arshavin was the most explosively talented lazy boy. What the fuck is a Park Chu-young, Julio Baptista. Nik Bendtner on the right wing. Silvestre. Emmanuel Eboue at right back. Emmanuel Eboue as a right winger against Wigan. Wellington being a pizza eating tubbo. Hiding Fran Merida in the mountains. Waiting 2 summers to sign Chamakh. Robin Van Persie binning us off after one good season. Cesc Fabregas and that ponytail. Fucking up 2008. Rosicky scoring that screamer in the World Cup before we signed him to replace Robert Pires. Fucking up signing Cahill. Manuel Almunia as our first team keeper. Denilson being defended as a good player. Andre Santos as a serious signing. Carling Cup being proper fun. Top 4 Trophy. The Best Finances in the game. The War Chest. ‘One or two signings’. Abou Diaby revisionism. Flappyianski. Samir Satan. Adebaywhoooore. ‘Wenger is good at tactics’. BRING BACK DEIN. Christmas injury pile-ups. Gervinho’s hairline. Sol Campbell back at the club. Usmanov. Beckham training with the lads. Thierry back at the club. Lehmann back at the club. Sign Da Ting. Chezzers rollies. WENGER OUT. Planes with banners. Banners in general. Last 16 PTSD. Playing top 6 PTSD. Stan Kroenke OUT. AKBs. WOBs. #TeamPostiveGooners. Queen of Suburbia is a King. LOLgrove. Owen Coyle. Cash piles. MESUT OZIL. FA Cup Finals. Trophies. Spurs still shite. North London still red. JUDGE ME IN MAY. THE WINDOW ISN’T EVEN CLOSED. SEASON HASN’T STARTED GIVE HIM A CHANCE. PLAYERS LET HIM DOWN. Santi Cazorla. Aaron Ramsey. Hector Bellerin. What even is a Sporting Director. Commentating on transfer deadline day. The ‘we nearly signed’ world 11. Scorpion kicks. Assisting the assister. The Wenger smirk. Kicking water bottles. Brexit musings. That L’Quipe photoshoot.

You’ll be sad when the 70th minute lands and subs have already been made. You’ll be bored when our transfer business is done early and it’s good. You’ll roll your eyes when the next coach does his caterpillar coat up at the first attempt.

For all the craziness of the last ten years, you’ll never forget the Arsene Wenger ride. Even in his darkest hours, he’s capable of dropping a next level, is the next level, is the next level quote that’d make you laugh, cry, or reach for the internet to understand the reference. Wenger is a one of a kind, and I truly can’t believe this is it.

The timing is right, it’s been right for 6 years. There’s no looking back. This move is more epic than the one we made from Highbury to Ashburton Grove. This decision is the biggest one the club has made in 100 years. It’s the most exciting test of our future. I can’t wait.

I’ll be sad, sure. But I’ll be happy in the way you are after a relative dies a painful death. You celebrate what was, but you’re glad it’s over. The last 5 years have been unbefitting. I’m glad it’s coming to a close.

The club is starting to leak intentions of their next move to the internetz. Mark Ogden over at ESPN dropped a piece yesterday.

But the club are also keen to assess the options at the other end of the experience scale, with Manchester City first-team coach and former Arsenal midfielder Mikel Arteta under consideration, and Julian Nagelsmann, the 30-year-old coach of Hoffenheim, another name in the mix.

Sources said the move to give serious consideration to a young coach is being driven by Kroenke’s son, Josh Kroenke, who is a non-executive director at Arsenal. The 37-year-old is also the president of the NBA’s Denver Nuggets and NHL’s Colorado Avalanche, both of which are also owned by KSE.

My loins are moistened, and my fears are starting to ease that we’re not going to make a move on a caretaker of the bland variety (Carlo, Löw, Enrique, Pards, Buvac). What makes this leak particularly interesting is it’s come from ESPN, so I’d imagine the source is one of Stan’s people.

It’d be a balls-out decision to go for a Tier 3 manager, untested comes with risks, but if the club has done their due diligence, the rewards could be massive. I’d be game for a risk. People are calling that sort of view hipster, I’d say it’s pretty f*cking smart. Josh K and Stan have already had a taste of youth in the US with Sean Mcvay and the press they’re receiving is incredible. Let’s see if this is real, or just clever cover to throw us off the scent of an Allegri or Jardim. Key point in all of this, no one has a fucking clue what is going on. Ivan gonna drop a new name like Beyonce drops a new album… gotta admire that as an advertising guy.

I want to be excited about my team again. Today’s game against Burnley is the changing of the guard. As some of the old school fans would say – we’re getting our Arsenal back – because be honest, Wenger has made the club all about him of late, and it hasn’t been good.

The team need to put on a magical show for Wenger. I hope the fans who are saying they won’t stay for his lap of honour reconsider what the great man has done for the club during the totality of his tenure, and sing his name loud and proud for the last time. I hope the day sticks in the memory, much in the way it did when the great Dennis Bergkamp called it quits.

Today is about Wenger and giving him the send off he deserves, enjoy him while you can, because next season, we’ll be throwing our support behind the future, and I cannot wait.

P.S. Horrible to hear about Sir Alex, our thoughts are with him and his family. Hopefully, he pulls through. One of the greatest in sports history.

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  1. China

    I’ve spent more time listening to wenger’s press conferences than I have spent with any of my cousins throughout my life. Several times over in fact.

    That’s quite something

  2. Arnold Wagner

    Going to start a fire here

    20 years watching football and not picked a team to support. Was it a final decision between arsenal and Grimsby town.

  3. Dissenter

    I’m not jumping on this Mavro bandwagon
    He’s a kid who’s only played 2-3 games at the highest level.
    He needs to be loaned out to a club that will play him 30-35 games in all competitions.
    Young defenders make mistakes…eventually, lets wait and see how he gets his head back top after a series of nightmarish games.
    Chambers is farther ahead of him for that singer reason.

  4. champagne charlie

    God I hope Chelsea can pip the Spuds, that’d be hilarious.

    Newcastle and Leicester for them in the remaining two, cmon Rafa.

  5. Redtruth

    The lowest point as a fan during Wenger’s tenure was losing to 10 men against Man Utd in the FA Cup Semi-Final in 1999.

    People can gloss over Wenger’s more successful period but the team still had a soft underbelly like going 4 years without a trophy and losing to Liverpool in 2001 after dominating the Cup Final.
    Losing to Chelsea in the Champions league Quarter-Final was also a low point and underlined Arsenal’s lack of ruthlessness.

  6. Ishola70

    Dissenter how many mistakes has Mustafi made since being signed?

    Just as much as a rookie would no?

  7. HighburyLegend

    Lol Giroud strikes again!! That’s a big difference when you have players who know how to cross correctly the ball in the box…

  8. Ishola70

    Redtruth:

    “and losing to Liverpool in 2001 after dominating the Cup Final.
    Losing to Chelsea in the Champions league Quarter-Final was also a low point and underlined Arsenal’s lack of ruthlessness”

    Mugged in both matches after dominating possession, play.

    Maybe post- Wenger the team and those in charge of it should look to move away from possession football just for the sake of it. Look for killer passes more. Turnovers are not the end of the world if you are looking to get in telling passes rather than keeping the ball passes.

  9. HighburyLegend

    “The lowest point as a fan during Wenger’s tenure was losing to 10 men against Man Utd in the FA Cup Semi-Final in 1999”

    I think I will stick to the (in)famous 2-8 at old toilet…

  10. nepGunner

    Farewell Arsene!

    Thanks for all the memories.. Especially the Invincibles /49 Unbeaten. That is the single most greatest joy ride I had with Arsenal FC…

    But it was high time for this parting if ways and I wish you a peaceful retirement. Enjoy the sun old man.. You’ve earned it.

  11. Arnold Wagner

    Redtruth thank you

    Also unable to get pass second group stage of the champions league and bottling the 2003 league title to man utd team who was not better than us and had fergie Beckham drama

  12. Jeff

    It was a good send off but it is obvious Arsene didn’t really want to go. You’re not human if you don’t feel a little bit sad but of course happy at the same time. Unfortunately because the good memories are so long ago that the more recent bad memories are fresher in the mind. My personal low was the loss to Barcelona in the CL final. I don’t think any of us will get over that one in a hurry – certainly not before we actually win it one day hopefully in the near future.

    As for the immediate future, i.e. next season, we need to concentrate fully on the PL and forge a formula for success. Above all we need to seriously compete and please, please let’s never bottle games again. That’s my biggest wish – that we stop bottling games and we acquire that “mental strength” that we’ve not had in many a year even. Goodbye Arsene and good luck.

  13. HighburyLegend

    “You’ve earned it.”
    Well I guess that everybody can have a different point of view…

    Any news from Ozil ??

  14. TheLegendaryDB10

    Guns of Brixton

    I like that you like Johnny Cash’s rendition of Hurt. If you like your music, try listening to the original song by Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails. Harrowing stuff. (I grew up with this band; and to give an insight as to what music I listen to: I seriously love Industrial music).

  15. Ishola70

    Really this possession football has been the downfall of Wenger.

    You hear this talk all the time of if you have the ball the opposition can’t score and there are still fans that peddle that.

    But because of this notion this was why Wenger was so nonchalant about his defence.

    I hope to see the team with this new era starting move away from possession football for the sake of it and look for match winning passes more rather than keep the ball passes. For sure it will mean more turnovers and the opposition having the ball more often but that in turn can mean that the defence is looked at in a more serious thorough way.

  16. HighburyLegend

    And mostly, any news of victorious ?? I’m afraid he’s so depressed that he could have some really dark thoughts… I’m a bit worried.

  17. Arnold Wagner

    What really hurts the most is the men against boys comments by the likes of evra and the media everytime we got humiliated by man utd and Chelsea the mighty Arsenal referred to as boys.

  18. MGooner

    About those Men against boys comments.

    Those who just started following Arsenal should be reminded that we had the worst disciplinary record in the league. At that time it was considered normal in the PL to kick a foreign player and the standard of refs was questionable to put it politely.

    We changed our style from Men to boys after media/establishment pressure. A foreign manager could not win over Red Nose.

    Talking about highlights, what about those matches when Neville kept kicking our wingers and the refs just stood there and watched. (Reyes)

    Zidane could have signed for a PL team rather than go to RM. Anyone knows what he said on why he did not go in an interview with Dugarry?

  19. TR7

    Wenger: “I would be happy to sit in the North Bank. It depends if I work somewhere else or not. If you can offer me a ticket then fantastic. The positive of that is I can shout at the next manager.”

    Really classy farewell to Arsene, thoroughly deserved. Wenger seemed sad but he played it nicely. Even in his farewell special he was defending his players saying they were a special group of players. The man always has had unflinching faith in his average players, I don’t understand it.

  20. Dissenter

    Ozil is probably having fun in Istanbul with the former miss Turkey.
    He will get his 350k weekly pay check no matter what.

  21. Pierre

    You can’t blame the Arsenal fans for not wanting to go to the matches this season.

    54 goals at home in the league.. Average 3 goals a game..our best ever…. Must have been boring seeing so many goals going in.

    It’s amazing what crab football can bring along with tippy tappy and football.. How did we manage to score a record 54 goals playing crab football…

    There must be some really stupid /thick “fans” who would pay for season tickets and refuse to go to games when they could be watching their team score an average 3 goals a game because they believe that Arsenal play boring football.

  22. Arnold Wagner

    Mgooner

    I mean post thierry Henry arsenal project youth a crying senderos getting man handle by drogba and crying like a little girl after getting destroyed by Torres in second leg in 2008 UCL

  23. Gunner2301

    DB10

    If Ozil has in his contract that he can choose which games he plays whoever was responsible for that needs to be fired if it wasn’t just Wenger.

  24. Childish Gambino

    Need the next manager to play 4-1-2-3 or 4-1-4-1 with width/speed merchants.

    Auba would feed off tap-ins. Ultimate tap-in merchant/ Fox in the Box

    City won the league with width & tap-ins this season. 95% of Sterling & Jesus goals have been tap-ins this season.

    Another reason city have been so good is the conversion of 2 CAMs (Silva & De Bruyne) into CMs playing in front of a good DM (Fernandinho).

    Same reason Cazorla (naturally a CAM, thrived in CM alongside peak Coquelin)

    We’ve also lacked the midfield destroyer since Vieira

    For that reason i would like players from a pool of:

    CAM to CM: Luis Alberto, Isco, Havertz, Demirbay
    DM: Ndidi, Partey,
    B2B: Tolisso, Jorginho, SMS
    RB: Cedric
    CB: Skriniar, Murillo,
    LB: not needed
    LW: Bailey, Lozano, Mertens, Guedes,

  25. TheLegendaryDB10

    Gunner2301

    Totally agree, followed by Ozil himself. If this is true, who on earth would be making such requests.

    I mean, it looked like Ozil wasn’t even there for AW guards d’honneur.

  26. Gunner2301

    DB10

    I didn’t really want him to sign I’m not a fan of his style of play. We’re stuck with him on such a massive salary. I just hope the new boss has the balls to make him train with the academy if that’s what’s needed to snap him the fuck out of this attitude he’s got.

    Keown called it right the other day.

  27. steve

    Lol this dickhead Pierre thinks we play good football because they turn it up against shit teams at home. 60 points after 36 games. A truly pathetic return. And yes Arsenal play boring football mostly. And most of all non winning football.

  28. TheLegendaryDB10

    Gunner2301

    I just hope the new boss has the balls to make him train with the academy if that’s what’s needed to snap him the fuck out of this attitude he’s got.

    So do I. I find this shocking that our highest paid player can’t even handle two game in a row. What a diva.

  29. TheLegendaryDB10

    I have just noticed that the time stamps for the posts are now accurate. Thanks Pedders for this cos it was a bit confusing sometimes with the time stamps being one hour behind BST.

  30. Coach 15

    Against the top three teams at home conceded 9,scored 4 and took 1 point.
    Yeah really happy with that.

  31. Ishola70

    Sublime finish from Messi but goal should have ben called back for foul by Suarez in build up.

  32. Pierre

    Coach 15
    “Lies,damned lies and statistics”

    54 goals, 3 goals a game playing crab football…. How?

  33. Bamford10

    I long ago offered Charlie a peace agreement. He rejected it. As for today, it was Charlie and Marko who began trolling me. I started nothing. I will gladly agree to a truce if they will agree to the same, but I’m not going to allow them to insult me or misrepresent things I’ve said without replying.

    As I say, if they agree to stop harassing me, I will gladly drop the matter.

  34. Pierre

    Dissenter
    “Pierre
    Are you for real?
    Do you think we’ve had a good season by any definition”

    Did I say that.. No
    Though some would say getting to another final and a semi constitutes a decent season but our away league form was poor.

    Can you tell me how we managed to score 3 goals a game at home playing boring tippy tappy football…

  35. Coach 15

    Pierre If your happy to massage the stats to look like we are an exciting team then fair play,in the most important games we don’t average 3 goals a game,and the table reflects that.

  36. Pierre

    TheLegendaryDB10May 6, 2018 21:17:17
    “Pierre So how do you explain that we are on course to be finishing 6th this season?”

    Are you thick…. How about looking at our shit away form and you will find the answer.

  37. steve

    @Pierre

    And how have they fared away from home when they’re not in the same comfort zone? Exactly they’ve been fucking pathetic. But ok I guess we won the “score lots of goals at home to shit opposition” trophy.

  38. Bamford10

    Pierre

    What do you think were the driving factors behind the difference in our home form and away form? And what was our home form like against top five competition?

  39. TheLegendaryDB10

    Pierre

    So why are you piping about the 3 goal a game average as it is some great feat when we are about to finish 6th. There is nothing to be proud of about this as this has only managed to get us 6th spot in the league. As you say, we have been total shit away which has not helped us. So stop bandying around this stat as if it is some sort of success. Maybe we should make a trophy out of this?

  40. Marko

    Can you tell me how we managed to score 3 goals a game at home playing boring tippy tappy football…

    Or can you tell me how we’re 34 points behind City sitting in 6ft and conceded 60+ goals if we’ve been that impressive. Pierre if you’re asking why people decided to stay away from matches just look at the direction the club was going the last two years there’s your answer. One more year he might have gotten to a cup final or semi-final again but he’d probably have us finishing 7th in the league. Look you’re taking everything really badly you need to talk to someone

  41. TheLegendaryDB10

    Pierre

    Where I will agree with you is that this stat does show the potential this team has once properly coached.

  42. Coach 15

    Pierre you’ve stated numerous times that you agreed it was time for Arsène to go. Thousands of empty seats for months at home games was enough for the owners to realise that the football was not goood enough,so why bring that stat to the table when you were clearly unhappy with the status quo.

  43. Champagne charlie

    Shut up Banford, you’re not a fucking victim you slimey prick. There’s no need for a peace agreement on a football blog, there’s a need for you to be open to varied opinions and critique – neither of which you can handle because of your massive insecurities.

    You’re claiming “harassment” because I questioned how anyone could follow football for 20 years before picking a team to suddenly support.

    Shove the invitation to your pity party up your arse.

  44. Bamford10

    I forget who said it, but someone here or on AFTV said that away form comes down to the quality of your defensive play, and our defensive play was shit this season.

    As for our home form, it may have been better than our away form, but I can’t imagine it was all that great against the better teams.

    Would be interested in seeing the data on the latter.

  45. Bamford10

    So much for Charlie being willing to draw a line under it.

    “Shut up Banford, you’re not a fucking victim you slimey prick.”

    Friendly guy. No idea why I’ve had difficulty getting on with him.

  46. Ishola70

    How long have we been saying that Arsenal are flat truck bullies?

    For a long time now. Not just this season.

    The problem for Arsene with his philosophy was that this season away from home the bullying did not occur and as ever the better teams do not get bullied by Wenger’s approach.

    If Arsenal want to start beating the better teams on a more regular basis and get back to winning away games they need to veer away from possession football.

    Possession football works well enough against teams that can’t seriously hurt you.

  47. Marko

    5 points from a possible 15 at home to teams in the top 6 one win isn’t great either way you look at it especially when you consider that away from home we got one point away to Chelsea. So 6 whole points out of a possible 30 against top 6 sides and Pierre just doesn’t get why the fans weren’t happy

  48. Marko

    I’ve had my problems with Charlie who hasn’t but he’s right you’re a melt Bam just stop

  49. Gazzap

    The thing is even an average PL manager can set up a defence not to leak goals on virtually every attack. Arsenal have a shockingly bad defence for a top 6 team. I would literally take any of the bottom three’s Back 4 over ours.
    But the positive is is that it’s relatively simple to fix. We have some really good player in our front 6. Not much wrong in personnel there. But defence, keeper and defensive midfield need attention. We are very close to Man U and Liverpool. Closer than people realise if we had a proper manager. City are another step ahead.

  50. Champagne charlie

    Banford, you must be forgetting what you said to Romford a couple of days ago in response to me poking fun about Neymar.

    Wasn’t it “ignore the resident cunt (champagne Charlie) being a cunt”.

    But yes, please can I indulge the victim rhetoric you’re attempting to parade on here at my expense …


    Oh and for the resident panel of “CC and Banford clogging up the blog”, you can aim your bollocks at the inbred mudslinger who can’t accept any questioning. Ok 🙂 tia

  51. Champagne charlie

    Not sure if I posted it already, but I read Liverpool have 0 points away at the top 5 this season.

    Idk if that’s correct, but that surprises me if so.

  52. Bamford10

    Marko

    Except that I’m not the one who started the problems, and I have offered to draw a line under it. If you and Charlie stop insulting and harassing me, I will gladly stop defending myself. And take your “melt” remark and shove it up your ass, you fucking dickhead. You call me a “liar” because you can’t remember the context of the discussion in question, and I’m the problem? Fuck you, you fucking twat.

  53. Bamford10

    Right, because you were trolling me for no reason and being a cunt. I called you by your right name, guy. That’s precisely what you were being.

    The blog wants us to draw a line under all of this. I am willing to do that. Are you willing to do that, Charlie?

    Are you willing to do that, Marko?

    Just say ‘yes’ and it’s over. As simple as that.

  54. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    Your “draw the line” nonsense means nothing. There’s no line to be drawn, what’s being asked is for you to stop the incessant crybaby behaviour when someone says anything remotely critical to you.

    You’re the issue. About a dozen posters have corroborated such engagements in the last week alone, and off you trot with the insults (ironically after your post above).

    This is a blog full of guys with opinions, either take the shit given out by all or fuck off. It’s your dramatisations that people can’t stand reading. You’re not always right, your character is massively flawed, and you’re not an eloquent poster whatsoever. All that invites criticism.

    Deal with it and stop the bs tirades, stop playing to a crowd because you’re insecure, and stop the arrogant dismissal of others.

    There’s your line. Read that, absorb it, move on.

  55. Champagne charlie

    Why are Liverpool getting linked to Fekir and Dembele?

    They know they have Lovren and Karius in their XI right..

  56. Bamford10

    Charlie

    So you’re not willing to draw a line under all of this? You plan to continue to insult and harass me? Is that what you’re saying?

  57. Ishola70

    lol Bamford.

    You take things too seriously.

    What you should have said is that Messi pisses all over Neymar in actual influence on a team however talented Neymar is as a player. When Messi leaves Barca the club will feel it. When Neymar greedily leaves Barca after being one of the top earners in football beforehand anyway at Barca to go and play in an inferior league Barca go on and win the league without him.

    Was WE involved in the first Neymar spate? Wouldn’t surprise me he absolutely loves the player.

    Anyhow that’s all I will say on the matter or else would be seen as hypocritical.

    I’m sure “Neymargate” will return in the upcoming World Cup matches if and when Neymar puts the Swiss, Croatians and Costa Ricans to the sword 😉

  58. Gazzap

    Selling giroud cost arsenal the Europa league and a subsequent place in next seasons champions league. And therefore probably a top manager. Thanks Arsene.

  59. Marko

    So they had some golden oldies who were there to celebrate Arsene today amongst them Kanu who is great and Jeremie Aliadiere…for some reason

  60. Ishola70

    Should have read Serbians rather than Croatians in the previous post.

    Brazil play Croatia in a friendly before the World Cup.

  61. Bamford10

    Ishola

    Yes, WE was involved. He absolutely lost his head when I suggested that Neymar hasn’t demonstrated that he can be the decisive player in the biggest games and that he would likely disappoint at the World Cup. A point, by the way, that I stand by.

  62. Champagne charlie

    Nobodies insulting or harassing anyone on here.

    I’m not indulging that fantasy, I suggest you re-read what I wrote and absorb the content. I’m talking football

  63. Bamford10

    Ishola

    Yes, he (and Brazil) probably will put those teams to the sword. I’m more interested in what he does against a Germany or Spain or Argentina or France.

  64. Marko

    Except that I’m not the one who started the problems, and I have offered to draw a line under it

    By seeking an apology.

    If you and Charlie stop insulting and harassing me

    I seem to remember you have no problem calling people cunts on the regular. Harassing you…fuck off Alexander can’t have an opinion on here because you throw something he said in the past in his face all the time

  65. Bamford10

    I read your comment, guy. It was just as disingenuous as many of your previous posts. You have been harassing and insulting me for more than a year now. I have replied in kind. The blog would like the back and forth to stop. I would be glad to end my contribution to the back and forth if you will agree to end yours.

    How about it?

  66. Bamford10

    Marko

    I have never sought an apology. Why do you make shit up? I did seek a retraction. But I have already proven that I was right on that point, so I don’t even need that now. All we need is a cease fire.

  67. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    I’m going to continue to treat everyone on here as equals thanks. The responsibility for how a person withstands criticism of their opinions is entirely theirs.

    As such, I suggest you develop some humility, because you don’t respond well to criticism. Worry about that

  68. Marko

    The blog wants us to draw a line under all of this. I am willing to do that. Are you willing to do that, Charlie? Are you willing to do that, Marko?

    take your “melt” remark and shove it up your ass, you fucking dickhead. You call me a “liar” because you can’t remember the context of the discussion in question, and I’m the problem? Fuck you, you fucking twat.

    Yeah that’s a no from me you freak

  69. Bamford10

    Marko

    And as for Alexander, I only mention him when he throws barbs my way. As he did last night. Check the record. And he still believes those things, you melt. I’m not even bringing up positions he has abandoned. He still holds those positions; you’d know this if you tracked the discussions better.

  70. TheLegendaryDB10

    Bamford

    Friendly guy. No idea why I’ve had difficulty getting on with him.

    Because you keep on berating him?

    I have never sought an apology. 

    You certainly did the following day.

  71. Bamford10

    Alright, the blog can see that while I was completely fine with drawing a line under my bad blood with Marko and Charlie, they were not. Any future back and forth can be blamed on them. I’ll try not to start anything, but if either of them aim a barb my way, I’m entitled to respond. Cheers, all.

  72. Marko

    I’m sure “Neymargate” will return in the upcoming World Cup matches if and when Neymar puts the Swiss, Croatians and Costa Ricans to the sword

    He’d likely say those games aren’t big enough.

    He absolutely lost his head when I suggested that Neymar hasn’t demonstrated that he can be the decisive player in the biggest games

    Exactly

  73. Marko

    I have never sought an apology.

    Another lie.

    And as for Alexander, I only mention him when he throws barbs my way.

    He’s actually a pretty respectful guy you’re a prick by the way

  74. Marko

    Alright, the blog can see that while I was completely fine with drawing a line under my bad blood with Marko and Charlie, they were not. Any future back and forth can be blamed on them. I’ll try not to start anything, but if either of them aim a barb my way, I’m entitled to respond. Cheers, all.

    NO ONE FUCKING CARES YOU WEIRDO QUIT TRYING TO BE THE CENTRE OF ATTENTION

  75. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    Yea that’s not how it works..

    You’ve been advised to develop some humility, a sense of humour, basically just follow the standard protocol for a platform where opinions are shared.

    If there’s any unsavoury interactions in the future it’s more than likely down to your inability to adhere to the same principles everyone else does each time the come here to comment. So a big fuck off with your pathetic attempts to cast blame at Marko and myself.

    As I’ve stated maybe 5 times now, work on yourself for the benefit of everyone, I’m talking football.

    Juve a ball hair from the title after another win yesterday. Allegri day is approaching…

  76. Marko

    The hope is once the league and cup is won even if there’s a game left something will be announced about him leaving and Carlo taking over so the fans can show their appreciation and a day later he rocks up at the Emirates in cargo shorts and sandals and says honey I’m home

  77. Pierre

    Gazzap
    “Selling giroud cost arsenal the Europa league and a subsequent place in next seasons champions league. And therefore probably a top manager. Thanks Arsene.”

    More bullshit..

  78. WengerEagle

    ‘Yes, WE was involved. He absolutely lost his head when I suggested that Neymar hasn’t demonstrated that he can be the decisive player in the biggest games and that he would likely disappoint at the World Cup. A point, by the way, that I stand by.’

    Lol, Bamford back with the banter.

    I lost my head? That’s comical coming from you.

    Yoy got your arsehole ravaged that night and were absolutely embarrassed in front of the entire blog, very selective memory.

    Not even going to entertain the fact that after all that, you still stand by your BS POV.

    You probably still think that Benteke will be world class, lol.

  79. E54_

    “Judge me in may”

    He set the conditions for his own accountability. So fair enough, all those seasons we finished top 4 or won an Fa cup, judging him in those months of MAY you could at a stretch argue he didn’t fail.

    As this season. According to his own criteria for Judgment and accountability. Wenger failed.

  80. Sid

    Bramford, cc, marko- nobody gives a shit about your little girl fights. Stop clogging up the damn blog, it gives me a headache scrolling through your mind numbing bullshit to get to some relevant comments. Your comments to each other add absolutely nothing of value to this blog. I implore you to take your shit elsewhere.

  81. Nw9 gooner

    I am not a great fan of Wilshere but his ball control and getting out of tight places is pretty good – better than many

  82. Alex Cutter

    I hope Clitorious is ok.

    The last I saw, his mum was tweeting out from the pub that she needed a good “Bammm-fording” in her pooper. Whatever that means! Is that some Brit euphemism?

    In any case, Wenger went out as he deserved — with a blow-out victory over a relegation side in a match that meant nothing to no one!

    All the while, TH14 was a sideline reporter for Chelsea/Liverpool!

  83. Champagne charlie

    Sid

    That would make sense, but I’ve not had a hissy fit over anything 🙂 that headache must be clouding your judgement

  84. N'Gambo

    Fuck there’s a bunch of absurd juvenile turds on here these days .

    If Pedro doesn’t ban/block turds who have nothing more to say than pointless internecine arguments, I won’t be coming back.

    Hey Pedro, this is a blog about AFC right?

    Fucking idiots.

  85. Black Hei

    “Really this possession football has been the downfall of Wenger.”

    “But because of this notion this was why Wenger was so nonchalant about his defence.”

    I would like to state that possession football does not equate rubbish defence. The Spanish teams in the early 2000s were not just great tippy tappers, they had great defence too. And they play a high line. And they won the European and World Cup.

  86. Emiratesstroller

    Wenger raised an interesting point yesterday that our home form this season
    was amongst the best in his career at Arsenal.

    If you take out of equation the two Manchester defeats he might have been correct, but in reality we won only one home game to top five opposition and that is the reality.

    What cannot be ignored is our away form and the fragility of our goalkeepers and defence all season. As soon as we came under pressure whether at set
    pieces or counterattacks the team would buckle.

    One thing is for sure if we have a limited transfer budget under the incoming new manager then it needs to be spent on what the club needs and that is a
    new goalkeeper and an experienced and commanding centre back.

    Mavropanos looks to have the potential to be a very solid defender, but he is
    young and we said the same about Holding last season. There needs to be
    more focus next season on playing better away from home and not being
    bullied as was the case too often.

  87. gonsterous

    can’t believe the dick measuring competition in here.. not to mention the dick sucking one…

  88. Ishola70

    Black Hei
    ”I would like to state that possession football does not equate rubbish defence. The Spanish teams in the early 2000s were not just great tippy tappers, they had great defence too. And they play a high line. And they won the European and World Cup.”

    Fair point good sir but different cases. In Arsenal’s case I think it did affect defence with Wenger so obsessed with emulating Barca and those Spanish teams you mentioned that he started to abandon the importance of defence. And he never got to the levels of that great possession football of the Spanish so he was caught as an in-betweener. This walking the ball into the net stuff is still effective against the middling teams and poorer teams in the league especially at home where the away team are less bold but we have seen this season that no longer applies to away matches and we all know it doesn’t on average work against the better sides. I’d like to see more mix n’ match in Arsenal’s play. More direct balls over the top looking for runners. Start scoring the type of goals that the opposition like registering against us. Will result in more turnovers but so be it. It may be good for the defence to face more attacks rather than be dulled into a false sense of security because the other side see less of the ball.

  89. Pierre

    Stroller
    I agree agree, we were bullied away from home and we need to be mentally stronger.

    We also need to rediscover our counter attacking football as that is what you need to beat teams away from home. This doesn’t allow home teams to get in your face as referees rarely give protection to the away side (and I’m not just talking about Arsenal).
    Quick, pacey one and 2 touch football is needed. We lost the ability to draw teams in and hit them on the break.
    Our attack, in my opinion, is the best for probably ten years… 2 quality strikers and 2 quality playmakers in özil and mkhitarayan.
    Go out and buy at least one solid midfield player (nzonzi or wanyama or both) a CB and a keeper and we may be able to compete again.

  90. Leedsgunner

    Chambers, when he first arrived looked like Mavropanos, then became ineffective as he lost his confidence. Hopefully with Wenger gone our who defensive core will receive some proper defence coaching and regain that composure.

    Beautiful football only when nothing is on the line is pointless.

    Give me 1-0 to the Arsenal every week if it means we are league winners every day of the week.

  91. Black Hei

    Ishola70

    Actually we have been alot more direct and varied in our approach.

    We now do long balls, dead balls, etc.

    But we have lost our tipp tappy skills.

  92. Ishola70

    lol said like a true Wengerite BH.

    You want more tippi-tappi not less.

    I think Pierre has the right idea in his latest post when he talks about sucking teams in and hitting on quick counters especially away from home.

    That would not entail tippi-tappi I’m afraid.

  93. Black Hei

    Ishola

    Now you know who is the true loyal Wengerite……

    Pierre is just a watered down AKB.