Tongues wagging super hard that Allegri has the milkshake that’ll bring Ivan to the yard.
Myles Palmer and a few others are saying he’s Josh and Ivan’s total favourite, and that’ll we’ll go hard to bring the dreamy Italian over this summer.
A few things to undampen those red and white panties.
There will be such thing as a favourite at this point in time, but there’s no way we’re anywhere near hiring yet.
A few reasons why.
Firstly, we only fired Wenger a week and a half ago, his caterpillar coat isn’t even cold yet. The club were very keen to stress that they wanted to run a proper search and select process, and that’s no doubt what they’ll be doing.
The only people I’d imagine they’ve had serious meetings with thus far would be the managers out of a job. I’d expect they’ve had formal conversations with Enrique, possibly Carlo who met with a club at a Rome hotel last week, maybe even Tommy Tuchel and certainly Pards.
As for the rest of the managers on our hotlist, no way.
The club will be hiring based on an in-depth interview. This won’t be a ‘do I like the cut of his jib’ hire. This will be the sort of role a decent manager will want to prepare for. No way Allegri has been moonlighting between games to speak to Ivan Gazidis. Well, that’s my educated guess. It’d look pretty shoddy if an elite manager was caught on the roof of Shoreditch House crushing watermelon margs with Ivan and Raul in a pair of swanky Speedos.
Sure, we may have sounded out his agent, but I’d imagine most decent managers in jobs will be waiting until the season is over before sliding knee deep into interviews.
I could be totally wrong of course, but I think the forest fire of speculation around 15 or so managers we’re interested in is likely the sort of PR Arsenal were hoping for. Truth is, no one has a fucking clue what the club is up to at the moment.
That said, I think I made a mistake in stating Allegri was off the radar, I misread his quotes. He’s apparently still available, and the club would be utterly mad not to have him at the top of the list.
- He has stage presence
- He can rejuvenate old players
- He can shape young one’s
- He’s not afraid to bomb of bad actors, even if they’re incredible players (Bonnucci)
- He’s a winner
- He’s used to working in a structure
- He has an abundance of experience and he knows how to deal with the pressure of a big job, and the pressure of a nurturing a big name
Signing him would be an absolutely exquisite move. Without doubt, he’s the best coach we could hire, and one of the few who could go toe-to-toe with Pep Guardiola for thinking.
A lot of people are fussing over us hiring a young manager because we’re cheap. As a Grover in the comments smartly said… the club hired the best scout on the planet as head of recruitment, and they have a Sporting Director who signed Neymar and Suarez. We’re not going to go cheap on a manager.
However, it’s worth noting, Juve work at break-even season after season, they are no big spenders.
The worry would be that Allegri isn’t going to be working with players who have elite mentalties and a strong work ethic. He’d have to build a winning culture from nothing. He’s have to spend a year explaining how football in 2018 is played. It’d be a very tough job he might not have the patience for… but look, his salary is £6m, amazing what the lure of London and a pay bump can do for persuasion (also been learning English).
Myles made the suggestion that Arsenal should grant Allegri all the power he demands because Chelsea fucked it with Conte by restricting his decision making (Chelsea refute this). My view is if Allegri wants too much power, we should look elsewhere. Arsenal needs to be run properly, the manager is a cog. We cannot allow a king ever again. Conte is a prime example of what can happen when a manager rules by ego, he alone fucked Cheslea’s season, you knew it was coming based on the preseason preparation. We cannot hire a manager who thinks they are bigger than the club. It is an honour to manage The Arsenal, it is not an honour for us to have anyone as a manager. Always remember that.
I’m very excited to hear we’re considering Paulo Fonseca, Shaktar play great football (good read here), and his resume has all the key items we’re looking for… can do a lot with a little, tactically flexible, a developer of talent, and someone who has managed to go beyond the last 16 of the CL.
I think The Mail have our shortlist at 14 names, they have Rui Faria on there, the pugnacious assistant of Jose Mourinho… disgusting.
Anyway, we’ll search high and low and I’m hoping the decision is a really good one.
Gut says Ivan Gazidis and Josh want to do something PR worthy like the LA Rams did in America. I’d say Raul probably wants to go for someone experienced. Sven, someone German because that’s the smartest guess I could make. Again, who knows, I’m just shooting in the dark like the rest of you.
Just don’t fall for the people telling you who it’s going to be, because I know that much for sure, the club are doing this properly… it’s been a long time coming for Ivan, no way he’s going to rush this decision.
Right, that’s me tapping out. See you in the comments.
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Guns,
Number one issue for me is the players aren’t being held accountable. Not sure Arteta can bring the discipline we need. Judging by Ramsey’s comments I’d say he can’t.
When Allegri, Simeone, or somone of their ilk walk into the room, there isn’t going to be a choice because you either take responsibility or you don’t play.
Sal, Gambon, guns, eagle…feels like 2013
Radio
Hope you’ve been well!
Im not advocating get Carlo in, just saying I can see Ivan make that choice when push come to shove and Ancelotti actively seems to be posturing for the gig.
I’d perfer Allegri, Jardim maybe even a stab towards Arteta or more hipster with the unkown Fonseca than Don Carlo.
Regardless we’ve somehow reached Valhalla with Wenger leaving, still surreal! I had literally caved and stopped really paying attention for most part.
Chi
Totally agree. That would be the only sticking point for a young manager. However…young managers are now everywhere so perhaps the players are a bit more responsive to instruction.
Also, the boss is the boss and let’s be honest, not one arsenal player has any sway over anything at arsenal. They have shown themselves to be absolutely trash. They have no leverage.
Ronaldo, Messi etc have weight behind them and can influence managers. We do not have anyone like that.
Arsenal need a buzz.
Gambon
“A new manager may be able to force Ozil to leave.”
Or a new manager may use his football acumen and realise that to force özil out would be a monumental error.
I have no doubt that the opinion of yours and and many others on Le Grove will be ignored by the new manager.
Maybe a few of you need educating on what makes a quality footballer.
WE
Simeone is a defensive manager in general. In crunch situations he becomes even more defensive. It’s not that his team is bereft of talent – Griezzman, Saul, Koke, Costa, Torres ,Gabi, Gameiro etc. I don’t see Klopp having that team and playing the way Simeone does. Big respect for Simeone for what he has achieved but I don’t buy ‘he can play offensive football too’ when he chooses not to (at least not often enough)
Raheem Sterling
I’d have said 2011 ha ha. I’m pretty sure a lot of us were banging the Wenger out drum for a loooooong time.
It’s nice to see some old faces back. Especially that closet homosexual, Gambon.
Where’s made love to magic?
Pierre,
The “Ozil is world class you just don’t understand football” argument died awhile ago…
Sal
I’m good thanks. I’m two sons heavier but all good thanks.
Hope you’ve been good too.
Valhalla feels good. There are quite a good few options out there so I can’t see it going catastrophically wrong especially with the backroom sorted as it is.
Guns
Hahaha nah gambon’s no homo (not that there’s anything wrong with that) he’s into his Japanese female tourists (preferably smashed out of their heads) haha
a friend, Liverpool fan, seems to think something’s definitely happening with us and Buvac…
gambon
“We have a lot to do this summer, we shouldnt bog ourselves down with transfers that aren’t essential.”
Agree with this, and I think it applies to Ramsey as well. It’s simpler to keep him than it is to sell him and try to replace him. IMO.
Raheem
Mate, I’m trying to draw Gambon out for some smackdown ha ha.
Nah, it’s amazing that Wenger leaving has bought some old characters back out.
As we’ve always said. We are The Arsenal. That’s what links us all…it’s just some of us don’t agree on how the ship should sail.
Gambon is in the barrel though…he loves it in the barrel.
We need a big name signing for a coach. Anything less, will mean a split fan base again…. Ivans ass will be on the line, and the board will freeze like a deer in the headlights. A big name means ambition, even if he does not succeed at first, there will be a sort of unity amongst the fans for at least a little while. you bring in young and risky, you also bring in quick dissention We need to get excited again about the team. Ivan knows this… I would love Allegri, even Ancelloti…. for a short time at… Read more »
Bamford
“Agree with this, and I think it applies to Ramsey as well. It’s simpler to keep him than it is to sell him and try to replace him. IMO.”
yes, agree with this. we have a core of players that should be built around. only the Manc clubs with the money to do a complete revamp in a couple of windows.
TR7 ‘It’s not that his team is bereft of talent – Griezzman, Saul, Koke, Costa, Torres ,Gabi, Gameiro etc.’ Torres is complete rubbish and has been for while. Out of that list I would only rate Griezmann, Costa and Saul as really top players and all three have thrived under Simeone. Koke especially is vastly overrated. I’m not saying that he’s got it in his locker to have his teams playing like Pep does but he undoutedly is contrained by the juggle of keeping up with the best two clubs in the world in RM and Barcelona all the while… Read more »
Radio
Epic news, 2x boys what an adventure your on. Twins?
Predictions for tonight?
I’m going Real Madrid to win 3-2 on the night, Ronaldo brace.
Congrats on the new arrivals RR.
The post-Wenger era will be an even sweeter one for you.
RM 2 BM 2
RM go through
Vasquez playing at RB is an interesting choice, Ribery bound to get opportunities to run at him.
Eagle,
Don’t completely disagree with your Real\Barca point but he’s clearly a defense first manager and their wage budget is only like 20m less than ours. Not sure I want that much practicality. Arsenal has always been about attacking football for me. Wenger never had the ability to defend but when he lost the ability to attack it became obvious it was over.
I want Bayern to win but this will be hard
Is Carvahal injured? Without him, that back line is capable of having a shocker.
* more capable
Chi
Yeah and look not saying that Simeone is my undisputed first choice although he’s definitely up there.
If he can win a La Liga title with Atletico Madrid in the Messi/Ronaldo era he can most certainly win the Premier League here with our resources. 2 UCL Finals too with one a loss on PK’s and both going to ET.
He’s a miracle worker in what he’s achieved at Atleti. They were in the bottom half of the table in 2011 when he took over and were renowned as being a joke defensively.
Juventus’ performance at the Bernabeu would have to give Bayern some confidence.
Just think that RM will be much less complacent tonight and look to put Bayern away early.
Surprised Benz is starting tbh, been awful this season.
Would love to see another quattro from Lewa vs Madrid but this is verging on bridge too far territory.
Going with Madrid sitting back and punishing them on counter, 3-1.
Bayern need Lewandowski to step it up….
“Gambon you son of a bitch…don’t go buying shirts. Mums do that. Go casual.”
Gambon is too fat to fit into a puma shirt after all he’s bigger than Jesus and the Prophet.
“Gambon
“A new manager may be able to force Ozil to leave.”Or a new manager may use his football acumen and realise that to force özil out would be a monumental error.”
Gambon meet Pierre. Keysers replacement or prodigy. You two would get along pretty well.
Le Grove is back!!!!!
Benz and Ronaldo up front in a 4-4-2 and play on the counter? Usually uses Asensio on the left in that case. Full backs are weak link and 4-4-2 will give them some cover.
just a guess! but he played something similar against psg and it was a masterstroke
Thanks sal and eagle. Not twins first coming to 3,second seven months.
Ideal start cccccmon Bayern.
Just to confirm, I dont wear football TShirts because im not 14 and im not a cunt.
I did used to buy the home shirt every season, until Wenger led apathy made me stop.
If every Arsenal fan in the world bought a shirt every season, we would have players like Neymar at the club.
Gotta do your bit.
I dream of Arsenal playing like this on this level.
FFS
Did James miss that on purpose???
High level and again Bayern should have taken more.
Bayern not taking their chances.
WE
2 questions
1 is lewandowski overrated. Flops on big stage.
2 should bayern of had a pen
@London gunner
Was going to say the same. Lewandowski choking big time. Weak finishing, constant heavy touches. Looks way out of his depth here. Very disappointing so far. He’s been flopping big the last few years.
Definite pen , he raised arm/elbow and it weren’t to protect his bollocks
Paging Manuel Neuer
Epic face palm keeps !
Game over bayern
Combination of real Madrids mental strength, Bayern mental strength powderpuff and lewandowski being a real let down and also a bit of Real Madrid getting the support from the ref.
No ref will ever ever give a pen against Real Madrid in such an important match. Its a shame because it gives them such a match defining advantage.
Marcelo pass just there was a worldie.
C’mon BM!!!! I can’t stand RM as a club. They may be good but by god, them and FCB, are such cheaters when their footballing “reputation” (of being at the top) is in jeopardy.
It would be great to see BM upset RM!!!
would love for Bayern to go through
Proper Federer vs Nadal this
Arsenal being linked to assistant coaches now
Who’s next?
Kermit the Frog ?
Bayern look like they’re going to get a goal. To make it 3-2 (4-4).
With Miss Peggy as the assistant?
Crap… it’s Miss Piggy…..
I am sure they still can do a better job than AW, and probably would cost peanuts to employ. On the downside, the backroom staff would be a concern, if Kermit does decide to bring his “team” with him.
Bayern dominating both the legs,should have been out of sight really but here we are – Real leading 4-3.
Fake Ronaldo yet again proving how overrated he is.
got a serious case of Barca/Madrid fatigue these days
TR7
Lewandowski has been over more dire. Guys dead weight.
Bayern without robben miss that ruthlessness, that clinical match winning scorer.
I think with Robben they could have won this.
Instead they have relied on anomous Robert, passed ribbery and of form Muller (usually he is far more clinical and lethal in the box)
I think we should create alongside MotM, best dive/fall of the game as it seems that every one is at it there.
That’s a shame. Looked like Bayern might get a goal there.
Madrid again fluking their way to glory.
No having it that they are some great side.
London
Also keepers had a big role to play. Navas has made several great saves over two legs while BM’s keeper had a stinker tonight. Real continue to be lucky in CL, fucking hate them…gutted.
Anyone like Liverpool in the final?
Paulinho
They are amazing side but Bayern have played the better football other two legs not that that will matter much for RM and their fans.
Just to me it will be pretty sickining to see RM win the CL again when they crush Liverpool
Amazing
If every Arsenal fan in the world bought a shirt every season, we would have players like Neymar at the club.Gotta do your bit.
A real fan
TR7
Haven’t been a big fan of Navas but he has been the epitome of World class, been the absolute governor of his box along side those epic saves.
I guess with BM it’s a case of what could have been, if neur wasn’t injured or robben ect.
And RM are in the final once again. Don’t give a shit about the scousers, but would be good to see them line up vs RM in the final. It would make for an interesting game to watch.
This is the 4th final in 5 years for Madrid, but I swear they dont ever deserve it.
They seem to repeatedly win games where they are majorly outplayed. Dont get it.
Your Comment Here
if Liverpool aren’t overawed I think they can definitely take this Real side.
Can you love and hate Madrid at the same time.
Liverpool are gonna win it. You heard it here first
Repeat of 84 it is then
Liverpool will run all over them.
Madrid will not cope with that front three.
Lewandowski with another no-show on a big night, said it a while back that he has flattered to deceive on the big occasion more often than not and has lived off his 4 goal performance vs Real Madrid 5 years ago for a long time now.
Pains me to say it but I fancy Liverpool’s chances vs Madrid, Bayern missed SO many chances tie could of been long gone. They get on front foot anythings possible, Madrid defensively weak, notably on left.
Going to get a lot of shit for this one, but I fucking real Madrid and all that they stand for.
The cheating, the arrogance, the unfair advantage financially and institutionally (supported by Spanish gov) the unfair advantage they get both in LA liga and CL via the refs.
Many don’t like Bayern but I love their 50 percent owned by fans model
Kroos and Modric are two quality players but I don’t like them as a pair.
Not sure about kroos overall actually.
I hope Pool give them a hiding in the finals, jammy cunts! Funny that so many great teams in history couldn’t make it in to CL finals thrice in a row but this Real team has.
Bayern better team over 2 legs, shame they didn’t have the bottle to make it count.
I swear this RM side in Europe just have the intangibles and the mental edge on everybody, have to admire that.
“Lewandowski with another no-show on a big night”
I find him infuriating.
Like he’s turned into the striker version of Koscielny.
Lewandowski looked like a pub player tonight.
Sal
You mean their right surely?
Every Bayern chance was coming down their left hand side with Vasquez horribly exposed.
Called it before the game.
WE
You Irish Don, you Deffo called it last week.
Lewandowski looked very flat, not just pmbad execution but a lack of imagination and seemed like BM were playing with 10 men at times
@Paulinho
Yep Lewandowski definitely looked like a CB trying to play striker. Completely out of place.
I kind of like Liverpool to win as well.
LG
I don’t get it, he just looks far more passive at Bayern then he did at Dortmund.
He’s basically in autopilot smashing in 30 plus in the Bundesliga, with the amount of chances that he gets you would expect that.
Too many times now I have watched him fluff his lines in Europe. Wasn’t even that he was wasteful he just looked plain out of ideas as you say.
Kroos is class, he proved that beyond doubt at the last WC and the Euros for me.
Was also huge for Real last season.
He’s not the most dynamic but he is as good a footballer as you will see.
London Gunner
Many don’t like Bayern but I love their 50 percent owned by fans model
I respect BM for that. Their KOP support/are friends with St Pauli, a club totally owned by their fans.
Definitely rooting for Klopp to bring it home, lesser of the evils for me even if it means listening to their gimp fans bleat on about it for over a decade.
Eagle
YES
ZZ looked like pulling a sub in first half to amend it but didn’t. Lucky that.
Liverpool’s temperament and mental strength will be tested.No doubt about their quality though. Firmino is the only one you can trust to keep his composure against any team and on any occasion. Perhaps Milner too. Not sure about others.
The format of the Champions league ensures you don’t have to be a good side to win it.
Red
And as long as you have enough money to pay off the ref to ensure decisions go your way……
Liverpool have already knocked out the best side in this season’s competition. play at that level again and they’ll win it.
WE
I’d go as far as saying kross was man of the match for Germany that world Cup and not just because he had the most assists.
“Liverpool are gonna win it. You heard it here first“
There’s three teams left mate, you’re not making some radical call…
I love firminho totally underrated bug part of what helps salah tick
So the Buvac rumours seem to have legs – would be quite an Arsenal selection – lets face it who had heard of Grampus Eight when Dein annouced Wenger? What do people think?
Always makes me chuckle seeing Arsenal fans want other English teams to win things.
And you dare call our home fans soft? Fuck off you soggy biscuits.