Well, the match day wasn’t quite the emotional response we expected from the players or the fans. Empty seats, a muted celebration of Wenger that only came when we were winning and a pretty bog standard 2017-18 game from the boys on the pitch.
The real interest was focused on the post-match comments. Wenger played the pity card, guilted a fan base he felt betrayed by and made it 100% clear the ‘resignation’ was not his idea.
Here’s the thing, there’s no point in getting riled by it. The man is broken by his firing, he’s still in shock, and I don’t think he’s ever been told he’s underperforming. No one likes to be told they’re dispensable and no one likes to lose their job, even if there’s a sweet £9m payout.
“I feel this club has a fantastic image and, for me, that is absolutely vital. We can speak and speak and speak but sport is about winning and losing and you [the supporters] have to accept you will lose games, even when I will not be here any more. But it is about something bigger than just winning or losing and that was always a worry: how the club is perceived worldwide, for kids playing in Africa, China and America and the dreams it can create for young children who want to play football.”
Bleating on about soft-targets that elevate the job of Arsenal manager close to religious leadership is great for the soundbite, but the reality is, football is about winning trophies. Sadly, the kids in Africa are more inclined to pay attention to the colour of the jersey lifting a Champions League trophy than they are to the intangible values Wenger trumps up every time things don’t go his way.
As I’ve said many times this year, there are no fallbacks this season. He failed on all fronts. He stopped making money, he showed his Midas touch with talent – young and old – had gone, and he had fans staying away from their prepaid tickets. Not just that, look at the state of our team. No direction, character, structure or joy. He’s left the squad a wreck, which is why we’ll be so incredibly appealing to every coach on the planet this summer. The only way is up.
The West Ham game didn’t offer up much we don’t already know. The player’s hearts are only in one competition this season, so anaemic performances in the Premier League outside United will be par the course.
Monreal, our superstar striker put us 1 up when he smashed home a left-footed volley from a Xhaka corner. A really tidy finish for a left back. Arnautovic drew West Ham back in 13 minutes later, a car crash of a goal that started from a classic Ospina punched clearance. He really is a shoddy keeper. Not that our defence or midfield showered themselves in glory in the ensuing melee of Sunday league defending.
Ramsey popped up with our second, scoring his oddest goal of the season when he tried to find Aubameyang with a flaccid cross that slipped through the West Ham defence past the hapless Joe Hart. God help us if he’s England’s #1 this summer.
Danny W started the move for our third, making a quick one-two with Xhaka, he found Auba who played in Lacazette at a tight angle, the Frenchman belted a deflected shot that beat Hart at his near post. More poor keeping if we’re honest.
The West Ham collapse was completed when Auba played Ramsey into the box, some silky quick feet from the Welshman and an incisive pass to Lacazette allowed for an easy 4th, taking his goal tally higher than Morata’s, 3 behind Lukaku and 2 behind Firmino. Not a bad return for a player who missed 2 months out injured.
A lot of the post-match whining from the press focused on the lack of singing from the fans. Please. This really has to stop, the never-ending gratitude some folk in the media think we should show Wenger is incredibly indulgent. The response was muted because he overstayed his welcome, he used his past glories to steal undeserved contracts and he sucked the joy out going to Arsenal for at least 6 seasons.
I love the notion that this is because of the ‘modern fan’. Average age of a Premier League season ticket holder was 43 last time I checked, old enough to have sat through the George Graham years. It’s such a bourgeois notion to think that Arsenal fans should just suck up the depressing 14-year decline because Wenger can titillate the Crouch End press core with occasional pithy anecdotes about philosophy or Brexit.
What is the expected behaviour? Start a 40-day celebration of Arsène? Sacrifice a few chickens in the ground? It’s very unique that Arsenal fans, who had the longest serving manager by 19 years, are critiqued as being bad fans so often.
Our loyalty to the manager was borderline sycophantic up until 2 seasons ago. We let him go 9 years without a trophy, 14 years without a league win (or even getting to March competing), 7 seasons not making it past the last 16 of the Champions League, as well as never winning a European trophy. Not to mention ‘Arsene knows’ became a religious turn of phrase amongst Arsenal fan to explain any and all of his actions.
Wenger’s comments on our fans had a few people finger wagging at AFTV.
‘Personally, I believe this club is respected all over the world, much more than in England … our fans did not give the image of unity that I want in the club all over the world, and that was hurtful. I feel the club is respected. Overall the image we gave of our club is not what it is and not what I like.’
I think people are giving Wenger a bit too much credit for his web browsing habits here. Bellerin gave you all the insight you needed about what the players/coaches think of AFTV. It’s football panto played by a group of fun characters. It’s not serious like the issues we’ve had in the ground with the banners, the planes, the empty seats, the booing, the shoddy atmosphere. That’s the message of unity he’d like us to have improved on.
The ultimate sin that killed Wenger wasn’t rage, it wasn’t over passionate displays of pantomime childishness, it was antipathy. When the fans stopped caring, that’s when the club had to act.
The comment also highlights that Wenger doesn’t really understand why this firing happened. He can’t see what he did wrong, he hates that his stellar reputation and past deeds can’t control fan feelings, he’s devastated he could no longer reimagine failure in a pithy sentence the fans would buy, he’s absolutely baffled that setting the bar isn’t enough, unless you can maintain it.
Ultimately, Arsenal fans have had 6 years to get used to the idea Wenger shouldn’t be manager. He’s been a bit of a squatter lately and a progress blocker, so good riddance is obviously going to be the vibe, and that’s why you’re not seeing disingenuous shows of gratitude right away. Still more comments like the one below will get the fans back on side.
“I’m happy when the fans are happy and I’m even ready to suffer to make them happy. If sometimes they make me happy as well [by singing his name], I will take it. Every single decision I made during my 22 years was for the good of Arsenal and every single decision was with the priority of doing well for the club. I tried to influence the club on structure, development of players and style of play. To combine the three is not always easy and I believe I leave a club that is in a very good position.
“My target was always to do that and give continuity to the guy who comes in after me so we can be better in the next 20 years. That’s my wish.”
I like the way he talks about sacrifice like he’s the Jesus of Arsenal. Hopefully, a godly performance against Atleti will see out his career!
Right, that’s me done, see you in the comments x
Not surprised to notice it go under he radar yesterday, but Ramsey would’ve been tore a new arsehole by a new manager for his role in conceding.
Emiratesstroller “He did not shout at the other players. He was gesticulating with his arms.” lol ok but point still stands. If you want to be really taken seriously as a leader then you also need to back that up with your actual football on a consistent basis. I find your opinions and defending of Xhaka puzzling ES. You moan a lot about the problem of conceding goals but seem happy to carry on with a player that is not going to stop that problem. Not just stop it but be a pretty big contributor of it. Xhaka’s problems: physicality,… Read more »
I am sick of the Wenger worshippers lying about what those who wanted to see Wenger leave actually want. I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but as someone who has wanted Wenger out for seven years, this is what I want: – I just want to feel like Arsenal is run well and professionally, with an ambition to win. – I want to feel like players are evaluated well in the market, and we make acquisitions that make sense (not all will work out, but I want to feel like the process did all it could). – I want… Read more »
What does “bit goofy” mean about a footballer?
Costa is out. Simeone confirmed it.
RP,
We do have a chance mate. Atletico’s recent form is pretty erratic. They lost 3-0 at Real sociedad. Couldn’t score against Real betis at home yesterday. In fact in their last 5 games, they’ve won only once. They did draw with Real though. We do have a small chance.
What it would mean generally away from football.
Bit daft, bit silly.
Great post Pedro. I’m British with African parents but I could care less how we are perceived in Africa, China or anywhere stated. We are a football club, football is about winning. If we had a winning manager he wouldn’t need to put so much emphasis on being a humanitarian when it suits him. Still, he’s lashing out as he’s been shown the door and I can now stomach it as there is a clear end in sight in regards to Wenger.
Akilan – we definitely have a chance even if it’s minimal. I’m going 30-70 in their favour. Like I say, we need to come out of the first leg unscathed but i’m not sure we will, even if Atleti are out of form. Griezmann is gonna mug off Mustafi at some point.
And all this bs about limited funds…. blah blah We always have been one of the richest clubs on the planet , with a queue of the richest people on the planet waiting to buy / invest. With or without money Wenger was lost without David Dein . That’s when it all started going bad for us. It was Herbert Chapman that made Arsenal the club that it is today. Wenger had some great years but that was a very very long time ago. We have had a decade of players that mostly really should never be near an arsenal… Read more »
Welcome back RP only N5 is needed back now
Ishola
In what respect though? A silly footballer is a bit nondescript
I agree with Garry Neville we should have a new manager in place in the next few days and the players before the WC
and Cesc Appeal
Charlie
It can mean making wrong decisions and what was said before switching off too many times on the playing field.
Xhaka definitely one of those that needs to be cut with the manager if we want to see weaknesses that have been present so long in the team phased out and genuinely improved.
Arsenal are in limbo now.
Need the new appointment to be announced in reasonable time and not drag on.
“Welcome back RP only N5 is needed back now”
Thanks man!
I like the idea of Xhaka and get the logic of buying him. We need a deep-lying regista who receives the ball from our CBs and initiates the attacks ala a Busquets/Carrick/Pirlo etc. The big problem is that Xhaka is unbelievably mobile and only receives it on his left foot so is screwed if he’s ever pressed. The PL is becoming more and more about athleticism which he lacks in abundance, Plus he doesn’t have a manager like Pep who can mitigate his weaknesses by offering him the protection he needs. There’s a good player in there but not sure… Read more »
Ishola
Think you’re discounting the importance of coaching. Decision making and concentration are what coaches are there to analyse and improve upon.
Bit of an oxymoron to lambast the manager for so long but account none of that when considering player returns. Xhaka has been playing at a very good level for a while now, disagree entirely on your “definite” statements.
“Costa is out. Simeone confirmed it.”
But hopefully he will be fit for the second leg.
(lol)
Romford
Agreed re:Xhaka, but I think we will see a better version under new management. He has a lot of very good qualities for an Arsenal Cm, but the balance needs to be addressed.
Xhaka makes silly challenges and silly decisions on the ball when under pressure. He has been better of late, but that doesn’t negate what we’ve seen from him in the past. Also, yesterday was an example of a game where he looked good on the ball in large part because the opposition played a deeper line and he was given a ton of time and space to play in. We don’t need a slow holding mid who isn’t a particularly good defender or ball-winner, who isn’t particularly athletic, and who doesn’t cover a ton of ground. We need athletic, ball-winning,… Read more »
Charlie
You have already seen my point about Xhaka in relation to Wenger.
The Xhaka buy personified Wenger’s indifference to having holding/defensive midfielders in his teams that are actually really adept at protecting the defence and are switched on defensively.
Xhaka is not a switched on defensively sound midfielder.
CC – Xhaka is a very good passer of the ball, both short and long so is helpful in games when teams sit deep against us. Not a surprise that his best performances tend to come at the Emirates. I do agree that a better manager may be able to extract more from him, however, it’s hard to ever see him being elite. The modern game is so fast now and it’s hard to see a CM who is slow and immobile ever being elite. He has no ability to dribble out of pressure/tight situations so when pressed, he’s in… Read more »
Although I don’t rate Xhaka all that highly, I don’t know that his signing was all that terrible or naive. I think he was generally rated as a good ball-winning, ball-playing CM passer. Perhaps the club’s scouting / analysis should have seen that he wasn’t that quick of foot or of mind, that he didn’t necessarily make good decisions when forced to think or act quickly, but I don’t know if you could have seen this. It is their job to see this kind of thing, though, after all. I think Paulinho was on record on this early on as… Read more »
I would be disappointed if Enrique were to be our next manager. If Enrique rumors are true then I would like to believe this Raul guy doesn’t believe in doing his homework much, takes the easy route of acquiring players/managers he has previously worked with.
Le Grove is now in a similar position to UKIP after the EU referendum. The only real USP of this place was Wenger Out. Wenger’s gone, and all I see LG becoming is a place where posters come to slag off Arsenal like tramps shouting at each other over special brew about who was the most loyal customer of Tennants. Untold can at least fall back on its historical stuff, but what is the point of LG now?
Xhaka’s leadership qualities are obvious, his mum trusted him with the house key over his older brother. #elite
Nice…but seriously I’d barely trust him with a key let alone screening a back 4
Too often people blame Arsene for poor performances of average players, giving long ropes to the players. I think it will be clear in the coming seasons that both Mustafi and Xhaka are just not good enough.
Welcome back, btw, Romford.
Xhaka said : “He has made his decision, we need to respect it”
lol “his decision”, of course…
RomfordPele, I recall you were one of those who would ‘lol’ at Coquelin and endlessly praise Xhaka as a far more complete DM, better suited to Arsenal etc etc.
Good to see you’ve realized how far off the truth you were.
Sooner we get rid of this player, the better.
Xhaka is shit. One of many many terrible Wenger signings.
Ramsey has now been directly involved in 19 goals for Arsenal this season, more than any other player.
Champagne, suck on that 😉
Ramsey has now been directly involved in 19 goals for Arsenal this season, more than any other player
He’s a great striker alright.
With Wenger going, many fans are being told to bury the hatchet and give him a good good send off. I should know, I was one of them. Yet, in his press conference, Wenger has let the cat out of the bag. He hates the fans… because it was their apathy which in the end that has revealed to the Board how this man has ruined the whole Arsenal experience for many of us. Let him cry. At the end of the day, he is a multimillionaire who will spend the rest of his life pontificating on a sport that… Read more »
Thanks Bamford. Rambo Ramsey – If you could find a post where I suggested he was a complete DM that’d be good but that’s definitely not the case. Xhaka is definitely the type of DM I think we need, however, he isn’t mobile enough to play it well. Jorginho at Napoli is probably a better iteration. Even Matic at United does a much better impression of what Xhaka should be doing. The problem with Coquelin was that he wasn’t rounded enough. He was good at breaking up play (liked his athleticism) but he wasn’t a good instigator of attacks like… Read more »
This young DM that Spurs, Dortmund and Inter Milan as well as Arsenal have been linked with Tousart is the type that should be looked at seriously.
Loves defending, good concentration levels.
But he is not a “complete” midfielder.
Arsenal really don’t need a “complete” midfielder.
They need a holding/defensive midfielder that protects the defence on a sound and consistent basis.
Arsenal have plenty of attacking options in the team. They don’t need another baller in the holding midfield area.
I mean that’s just what you want from a guy who’s been used predominantly as a CM in a midfield two. Fantastic stat all the same. Makes for much better reading than the 65 goals we’ve conceded this season cause of our poor defence and non-existent midfield protecting said defence. But he’s been involved in 19 goals though
Arsenal really don’t need a “complete” midfielder.
They need a DM and a box to box complete midfielder if you will. Tousart would be a decent shout
I didn’t know that only Man City have a better home record than Arsenal.
What the actual Fvck. We should comfortably have finished top four.
Rambo You still think I’m anti-Ramsey, palm your face good sir. I like Ramsey, I like good players who can offer the team something positive. My issue is he’s not suited to Cm (or worth 200k plus in wages to a club with finite resources), and yesterday again showed how his mind is that of a striker than a midfielder. I’ve also stated he can be better under a new coach, but when he costs the side because of the issues I go on about I’m going to continue to go on about them. Believe me though, if he switches… Read more »
Rambo
I thought I read it’s actually us who have the best home record in the premier league this season. Most points accumulated there I want to say?
Emirates is a genuinely tough place for visiting sides. But we are soft travellers, shock.
what happened to Kolasinac?
he looked like the steal of the summer the first month or two of the season.
what happened to Kolasinac?
He’s just been shit like every other defender this season. Now before anyone starts with the whole under a different manager stuff he’s a back up at best anyway we’d need a first choice LB going forward and that ain’t him. He looks super chunky too
“what happened to Kolasinac?”
He’s too hench. Generally.
He blows his load quickly, no stamina and isn’t very agile.
@wallace
“what happened to Kolasinac?he looked like the steal of the summer the first month or two of the season.”
Wenger happened to him. He is not the ssame player as he was at the start. Don’t know if Wenger does not trust him or if he don’t fit in.
Wallace
Nothing, first season has blown hot and cold. Strikes me as a player that needs games to hit a rhythm a bit like Rooney.
Simeone will keep it tight as a ducks on Thursday and for that we will need to show a discipline we have seldom showed. Key to our chances is not conceding at home….. if not, it makes for a finely balanced and potentially exciting winner takes all in Madrid. I would take a 0-0 at home.
Nothing, first season has blown hot and cold. Strikes me as a player that needs games to hit a rhythm a bit like Rooney.
So fat like Rooney? I mean you’re right. Future first choice LB? Don’t think so. I’d go for one of the three G’s Grimaldo, Gaya or Ghoulam.
“I would take a 0-0 at home.”
dunno, man. we’re the team without an away win(point?) in 2018 remember? I think our best chance is blasting them at home, building up a big enough lead for the return.
Wallace,
Here’s hoping that the law of averages addresses that particular shite stat. we are way overdue something away from home , I just can’t see a big scoring aggregate in this tie, and after their 3-0 drubbing they will look to be very tight. 0-0 at home and 1-1 there will do
Ishola 70
As I have said many times before we have a mediocre central midfield. None are outstanding.
However, I doubt that Arsenal can afford to bring in more than one new high quality player in that department and at the moment Ramsey and Xhaka would be my preferred choices to retain.
Cazorla’s career at Arsenal after almost two years absence must be over. I cannot see the club in absence of Wenger renewing a £5 million pa contract.
Wilshire is mediocrity and somehow with Wenger’s departure also likely to
leave on a Bosman.
That’s what I thought ES.
You don’t really particularly rate these players but you do not think they will be got rid off and replaced any time soon.
So because of this you look for positives in them.
“it wont be long before Le Grove turns on whatever manager we get in next” I think most of those on here have analysed enough to understand quite clearly the situation Wenger is leaving us in and hence the mammoth job the next manager has on his hands to turn things around. Strangely enough i expect those who were previously Wenger Out to be the ones who are patient with the new manager and the AKBs who will be quick to judge and turn on the manager and try to point out what a mistake we made getting rid of… Read more »
Re: Xhaka I just dont see how he can fit into a top team, and I was calling for us to sign him. He is just so poor physically, and I had no idea just how slow and cumbersome he was when in the Bundesliga. He cant play as the deepest midfielder because he cant get away from being pressed, he also cant defend. The PL is probably the one league in the world where physicality is as important as technique. For many years now, Wenger has pretended this isnt the case, god knows why. Our squad, as it stands,… Read more »
I’d like one of the journos at the guardian to explain exactly how arsenal fans are meant to behave at their manager’s third last home game. Is it different from the second last and final games?
Typically the AKBs are struggling with Wenger being removed, personally I wouldn’t have given him the respect Gazidis has done, he and all his devout followers should be happy he’s being shown how to creep out the back door quietly, but such is their blind devotion they just can’t see it.
I’m genuinely excited about the next era of Arsenal FC, but if they get the appointment wrong it could all go tits up really quick.
This is nauseating from Dein …
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43862112
Dein is like his old pal, he don’t age too well.
I think our best chance is blasting them at home, building up a big enough lead for the return.
We struggled v west ham, CSKA, lost to the Swedish pub team at home, but you think we can blast and build up a big lead
Vs atletico
Sure Wallace, and Wenger resigned , wasn’t sacked.
Baying
I’m genuinely excited about the next era of Arsenal FC, but if they get the appointment wrong it could all go tits up really quick
It can’t really go much worse than where it is now.
Even with a useless manager the players have got us to the mighty 6th and semi finals of Europa. They are capable of that by themselves.
They need a proper manager to propel them forward. Take them to the next level. Get the best out of them.
Unless we go Rodgers. We will be fine.
Luis Enrique (not in a job) Style of play Tweaked Barcelona’s style after taking over from Gerardo Martino, focusing on countering at pace and placing extra emphasis on the individual abilities of Luis Suarez, Neymar and Lionel Messi. Worked tremendously to begin with but sections of the Catalan press eventually snorted with derision, claiming ‘this isn’t Barca’. It might be a method that is suited to English football though and he was highly commended for changing to 3-4-3 ahead of that sensational comeback against PSG. Transfers Transfer power isn’t necessarily with the manager at Barcelona but, while Suarez and Samuel… Read more »
David Dein.
Shareholders should be very pleased.
At roughly £3700 a share that hardly affects the average fan
seeing that Kroenke owns over 67% and Usmanov owns
30.04%.
They all think on the same level.
Think i missed a 0 there.
Well! I am 53 years old. I witnessed 2 dictators falling by my eyes. From close range. In Soviet and in Iran. Then I moved to Sweden and saw how Swedish social democracy bad the power in ages. When the power is concentrated on a single point, a party or a single person, then it gets rotten. Corrupt. They see it as a divine right! Written in skies! And then when it’s gone, it’s because someone, cirizen or supporters have betrayed. They haven’t followed the order. I witnessed that at arsenal. Wenger had only one door open. Kroenke or Gazidis… Read more »
*wouldnt br
“Our squad, as it stands, is a complete mess, mainly because Wenger just doesnt have a coherent plan.”
Spot on Gambon.
One of Wenger’s biggest failures was/is not having a vision of the kind football he wants his team to play (Tippy tappy is not a plan).
Its the reason why he doesn’t know Wilshere’s best position, or why he didn’t know what to do with the Ox.
Wenger just bought players he fancied and tried to play all of them together hoping it would work.
Great,great post Pedro.nailed it 100%.i don’t care what other fans or media say we should be grateful.hypocrites the bunch of em.at no other major club in world football would the failings you’ve listed be deemed acceptable for 14years!irrespective of any past achievements.any criticism coming arsenal fans way is from other fans of other clubs who’re pissed off now that the club have done the right thing & are worried.as for the media.its simply another’stick to beat us with.f**k em.
However, I doubt that Arsenal can afford to bring in more than one new high quality player in that department and at the moment Ramsey and Xhaka would be my preferred choices to retain.
You know we could sell them and replace them. I mean if the idea is not enough money you can always sell some
Pedro
Post is 100% spot on.
Well said.
So how long do you think it will be before demands start for a statue to AW or naming a stand after him….. thoughts?
If the reports of a potential 100-150 million budget are there or thereabouts correct that’s more than enough especially if you factor in we can sell Mustafi. Welbeck. Bellerin, Xhaka and one or two others. Could easily make a 100 million in sales easily. Not to mention the likes of Max Meyer and Ozyakup are available on free transfers this summer and Bernd Leno apparently has a reasonable buy out clause in the first month of the window.
Marko
I would get rid of jack, wellbeck, mustafi, Chambers, Ramsey
Sign 2 CBs
At least one winger
Sign 2 MF to replace Santi and Ramsey.
I’d even sell xhaka. Makes too many mistakes.
Ramsey has been involved in 19 goals stat ?
Who cares. We are 33 points behind and 53 goals behind in GD of man city. Out of fa and league cup. What have those 19 goals done for us?
Useless stat in a terrible season
So how long do you think it will be before demands start for a statue to AW or naming a stand after him….. thoughts?
If they’re smart they’d wait a few years before talking about that shit
Logie
There is already a petition out there to name the stadium after him FFS!
The curse of Wenger would continue.
“If they’re smart they’d wait a few years before talking about that shit”
They’re not.
Who cares. We are 33 points behind and 53 goals behind in GD of man city. Out of fa and league cup. What have those 19 goals done for us? Exactly we have more than enough attackers we don’t need one of our CMs being involved in 19 goals especially not in this team. All that matters with a midfield like ous is do they protect the back 4 enough? Especially with our full backs being so gung ho all the time. And do we dominate possession? Absolutely no for the first one 65 goals conceded is evidence of that.… Read more »
Take me back:
“There is already a petition out there to name the stadium after him FFS!”
FFS indeed….surely not ?! (Mind you, when does the Emirates sponsorship end…..???
stranger things have happened…dread to think they’d name the stadium after him…)
Even Ferguson didn’t get the stadium named after him.
If any manager should get it for arsenal it should be Chapman
when does the Emirates sponsorship end…..???
Pretty sure they signed a new stadium deal not too long ago. Think it was for something like 10 or 15 years
“when does the Emirates sponsorship end…..???”
Thank God, the zipcoat sponsorship is finally over.
Lol
Nice to read Elneny will not miss the WC, he looked devastated when he left the pitch
Who was it on here that said Allegri only gets £2m as manager of Juve ? Just wondering how accurate that is ?
Untold is in serious melt down. Someone please call the suicide prevention hotline for them.
If anyone thinks the club is going to forgo £30 million odd a season by dropping the naming rights to the stadium is barking. At worst it’d be the Arsene Wenger Emirates Stadium – is it really something I can get worked up about NO!
For now it’s the Arsene Wenger Emirates Cemetary.
azed
“Untold is in serious melt down. Someone please call the suicide prevention hotline for them.”
It’s very difficult for them.
They saw the club as Arsene FC and it was not just about his football managerial abilities they also loved the intellect angle associated with him.
As another poster said the ones who will be kicking off at the next manager sooner than others will be the Wenger devotees.
“the intellect angle associated with him”
Indeed…
Our 3 next games are Madrid x 2 + manure away.
wenger’s end at Arsenal could turn into a real nightmare.
But it would be, of course, “the fans fault”…
HL
Don’t worrry. Ramsey said yesterday that they will won all remaining matches and win the cup for wenger!
Now is the time for “involved in 19 goals” Ramsey to step up
“We struggled v west ham, CSKA, lost to the Swedish pub team at home, but you think we can blast and build up a big lead Vs atletico Sure Wallace, and Wenger resigned , wasn’t sacked.”
that you rhymes with ‘slow’? 🙂
I didn’t say we would blast Atletico, I said I thought really going for it in the first leg, rather than keeping it tight, was our best option.
Hey look boys, J.oey is back under his umpteenth moniker. Anyone want to take guesses on how long he’ll last before another binning?
George Graham is trash
Wallace
Do you really believe that Wenger has it in hin to go for it or to keep it tight?
He’s not really known for his tactical acumen.
“George Graham is trash”
🙂
J.oe
I certainly think he has it in him to go for it. it’s the keeping it tight approach that would worry me.
“Untold is in serious melt down. Someone please call the suicide prevention hotline for them.”
Lol these people have a sickness. Hope they follow Wenger out.
Some absolute pearlers from Hunter13 over at untold….. fucking unreal!!
karim
how is Jardim viewed in France? does he ever moan about losing all his best players, or does he just keep his head down?
“Season ticket for sale. I refuse to be associated with punks who drive out their most succesful and moronic board/owners who instead of fighting the media and idiotic fans opted to ‘retire’ the manager who took their Albania and turned it into a Switzerland. You fucking little club with your drunks and your low life culture, Wenger putting you in heights you had no business being there. How many of the coward wengerouts will come out when Arsenal fails to do the treble in the next season, or decade I hope all the Wenger players leave Arsenal and i wish… Read more »