Giving up the league Wenger’s master strategy for toppling Atletico

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Once again, Arsene Wenger finds himself in a situation where he can excuse the rapid decline of the club. His team tanked in blue again, losing 2-1 to a very average Newcastle side, but somehow, the press has brushed this off as a byproduct of searching for Europa League glory.

Partly, that could be seen as true. However, as is everything with Arsene Wenger, you need to have context. If this were off the back of a scintillating season, you could perhaps acknowledge the changing shape of our form. That’s not the case though. Our form is an illness that’s plagued the club for years now.

This season’s particular ailment happens to be away form. We just lost our 5th away game in a row this season, we’re the only club in the league to not have registered a single point away from home in 2018. In the home league table, we’d be third, in the away league table we’re bottom half. It’s staggering how damaged we are once we step off the away day bus. What makes this problem even worse, is Wenger has teed up the atmosphere at home as a reason for poor form in the past. Maybe the lack of fans > the lack of venom is our secret sauce for away games? Maybe away fans are the problem?

The game wasn’t much to write home about. Lacazette and Auba combined nicely inside the opening 15 minutes, Lacazette reaching a teasing cross at the back post. Then it all collapsed in a combination of low energy and silly defensive mistakes. The whole defense was beaten route one from a Shelvey hoof to Gayle, he held onto it, laid the ball off for a tidy front post cross finish by Perez. The second time Mustafi has been caught napping in a week, in exactly the same move.

Who spoke to him after he made the same mistake against Southampton?

The second came from a throw. Mustafi made a hash of it, Monreal made a double hash of it, Slimani nodded to Perez, who laid it into Ritchie, with the finish inevitable.

Losing 2-1 to Newcastle is shabby, they are Championship level. It does show you how good Rafa is as a coach. He’s taken a very poor group of players and crafted a masterful season, hats off to those boys.

But what does it say about Arsenal? Wenger has let the concentration handbrake off on the season. Burnley are closing in on us, terrible records are closing in on Arsenal. It’s really not looking good. Mourinho pulled this stunt towards the end of the last season, but his path to Europa glory was easy… but it was still a gamble.

Wenger now has Atleti in the semi-final. I’m not sure bombing the league is in his interest, because if he gets beaten, which seems likely, all he has to fall back on are the facts from the season.

> You spent a load of money

> You didn’t improve the team in any way

> We didn’t make Champions League again

> You didn’t win anything

How can the club possibly back him for another season like this?

Also, there’s an argument to say that when you’re still playing for something, as a player, you should be fighting for your place. Keeping your game sharp. It’s hardly helpful that Mustafi and Chambers are recording disaster classes on the regular. It’s not a positive to keep getting your ass handed to you. I think it’s arrogant. Sure, we’ve had an extra gear in the Europa League this season, but that’s only because the competition has been absolutely dross. The idea that we can switch off in the league in prep for playing one of the best teams in Europe is quite horrifying.

What all this shows is that Wenger doesn’t care about winning. He doesn’t know how to motivate players. He is utterly lost as an elite manager.

Worth noting that Atletico won 3-0 vs Levante as they cement 2nd place in La Liga. They’re up to 71 points, still pushing for a league they have next to no chance of winning. That’s proper coaching.

I guess if Wenger shows Simeone how it’s done over 2 legs, we really will have no argument over this season.

There’s also an ugly rumour doing the rounds that Wenger reckons he’s going nowhere, goading the club into trying to fire him.

Can you imagine being that arrogant about your future? Only Arsenal would be meek enough to have their next seasons plan geared around the hope their manager is self-aware enough to fire himself.

Pathetic.

Right, see you in the comments. I’m back in England this week. Also, I have a treat coming up for you in a few weeks. I have a bonified expert in fitness, and he’s going to talk to us about red zones, player loads, j-curves and a host of other shit you had no idea about that goes into keeping players fit.

I am VERY excited about that.

Also, moving forward, no more drunk podcasts. I apologise for that.

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steve

“Arsenal cares about Arsenal”

Lol no he doesn’t. If he did he would’ve fucked off a long time ago.

James wood

phD07.
Yes it was very obvious Charlie was a very real
talent at a very early age.
Charlie a wisp of a lad but an underlying strength
would regularly score for the school the majority
of the goals in any one game and keen anticipation
at Monday assembly was maintained when the sometimes cricket scores
results where read out and Charlie’s sometimes huge tally was revealed.
Because of C’s talent he was allowed to play above his age group.

Frankie Coffeecakes

@PHD – Gazidis, i believe you may find that Pedro has bigged himself up on the guy too many times to keep track of any longer. Fact remains, Gazidis has effectively been in charge during Arsenal’s decline. By that very association one would be fair to wonder whether Gazidis, much like Wenger, is safe from dismissal?. I would argue that he most certainly is and it would not surprise to see him dismissed before Wenger.

Danny

I guess if Wenger shows Simeone how it’s done over 2 legs, we really will have no argument over this season.
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Pedro – that will put us in the final, we still wouldn’t have won it!
Beat Madrid and lose in the final ain’t worth shit.

Champagne charlie

You really do wonder the direction Arsenal are headed in, its hard to believe there’s much of a plan in place for this summer. Has a very familiar ‘let’s see’ feeling about it. Hope I’m very wrong about that, but not very inspiring stuff. I mean Allegri, Simeone, Klopp, Pep, have all been there ripe for the picking yet you don’t get a sense we’re genuinely going to pursue one of that ilk. I can’t get my head around the Henry, Vieira, Arteta talk as this stage – so so green to be taking over a club like ours. I’ve… Read more »

PhilF

Wenger will be at Arsenal next season, what ever happens. He has always honoured his contracts and the board will let him stay on out of loyalty . What happens after that is anyone’s guess

Marko

We’ve been losing in embarrassing fashion for years now it has nothing to do with a Europa league semi-final

alexanderhenry

PhD

Thanks for the support but I feel I gave as good as I got from Bamford.

Then I got bored and just ignored him.

Also, I’m not exactly on Pedro’s Christmas card list.

PhD07

James woodApril 16, 2018 16:49:22 phD07. Yes it was very obvious Charlie was a very real talent at a very early age “but an underlying strength would regularly score for the school the majority of the goals in any one game and keen anticipation at Monday assembly was maintained when the sometimes cricket scores results where read out and Charlie’s sometimes huge tally was revealed. Because of C’s talent he was allowed to play above his age group. —————- Oh cool You tended to find that about similar athletes in my school. A few went on to ply their trade… Read more »

Vintage Gun

“I guess if Wenger shows Simeone how it’s done over 2 legs, we really will have no argument over this season.” I will, for the simple fact that we’re guaranteed to finish in our worst league position in 20 odd years (breaking last seasons low). We’re the only Professional club in English football to have Zero away pts this year and we’re currently going though our worst away form this season since the 1920’s! Thats damn near 100 years for fucks sake. All a potential EL cup win should mean is a route back to the CL and a great… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Well, that’s Tuchel gone.

Regardless if he’s a success at PSG or not, that’s one less top manager we won’t have a chance to get.

Wenger is essentially holding on long enough for the talent to be snapped up, leaving himself as the only ‘viable candidate’.

This club we follow is trash. There are worst teams, but as a club, we are a disgusting little outfit.

Guns of Hackney

Worse teams *

Chika

Wenger can say whatever he wants, what is that fucking yank cunt saying?!

Guns of Hackney

“We looked around the world and realised that Arsene was the best candidate”

Ivan Gazedis

JAMES WOOD

phD07.
Your exactly right the next level finds out so many Athletes in all sports.
But Holloway school had a history of being a footballing school.
Tommy Youlden was another Arsenal product from HS ,a lot of boys went on to clubs but as you say not many made it to the very top.
Bob Wilson went on to be a sports teacher at Holloway and no doubt
unofficial scout..:)

Moe

“Arsene cares about Arsenal”…….can someone pls just shoot me once and for all. He cares only about his narcissistic loathsome self. He’s been trying to use arsenal to proof his narcissism all these years, but keeps failing. Socialist wage structure, relying on FFP for salvation rather than investing in true talent, always trying to proof that he’s the smartest one……..Give us a break with this Wenger cares about Arsenal nonsense.

Pierre

Personally, I think the Wenger out brigade started way too early after the invincibles and ces/ rvp era so they lost any credibility. They were open to criticism of being disloyal and ungrateful for the trophies and style of football that Wenger produced. They were regarded as plastic fans. What it has meant ,is that for the last ten years the players have been one bad performance or defeat away from a media and fan (WOB) backlash which in turn creates an element of negativity around the club including players wanting to leave and for players wanting to join the… Read more »

Moe

Celebrating top four like the unambiguous washout that he is……the list is endless

PhD07

alexanderhenryApril 16, 2018 17:15:38
PhD
Thanks for the support
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No worries Alex.Just don’t like bullies and cowards,especially slippery cowards that run off behind the scenes-seeking a ban.Then waiting to re-enter to continue their usual mantra.

I hope you know what’s happened.

PhD07

AMES WOODApril 16, 2018 17:40:57
phD07.
Your exactly right the next level finds out so many Athletes in all sports.
But Holloway school had a history of being a footballing school.
Tommy Youlden was another Arsenal product from HS ,a lot of boys went on to clubs but as you say not many made it to the very top.
Bob Wilson went on to be a sports teacher at Holloway and no doubt
unofficial scout..:)
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So did HS churn out a lot of athletes?

Frankie Coffeecakes

@CC – “I mean Allegri, Simeone, Klopp, Pep, have all been there ripe for the picking yet you don’t get a sense we’re genuinely going to pursue one of that ilk.”

No, according to Ivan and Stan we already have an elite manager. They have a lack of vision that would make a blind man weep.

Troy McClure

Josh Kroenke is our only savior, our white knight. If he has the power and no emotional connection to Wenger, he is the best hope to be the one who pulls the plug. When AW makes the call to save his job before the board meeting, the “meeting before the meeting”, hopefully the phone rings to Josh and he makes an objective decision based on football results vs. expectations.

If AW could manage football as well as he manages corporate politics, we would be world beaters every year.

Frankie Coffeecakes

@GOH, all part of Wenger’s master plan. He may be many things but devious he will always be.

Vintage Gun

“Personally, I think the Wenger out brigade started way too early after the invincibles and ces/ rvp era so they lost any credibility.”

Peirre

I get what your saying, but it’s never too early to tell the truth.

JAMES WOOD

phD07
Only Miss Martin the art teacher she was quite active.:)

Frankie Coffeecakes

Not really Pierre, many over the years have seen Wenger for what he truly is -an inept manager. Does not matter if it was a decade ago or ten days ago, more and more are seeing it and reacting accordingly. No,different than a dictators reign, eventually even their most ardent supporters grow tired and want them gone. All part of the natural order of things. The longer he stays the worse it will get. There is no good ending in store for Wenger, he chose that for himself.

Vintage Gun

And realistically speaking, fans shouldn’t even need to protest anymore.

2pts and one place above a steady but unspectacular Burnley with some 5 games left speaks for itself really.

#the next level is the next level is nonsense

Moe

Alexander Henry’s beef is with Kroenke owning Arsenal. From his comments it’s clear he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about Wenger’s incompetence. Has zero credibility.

Pierre

FC
I do agree that it will only get worse but he’s a stubborn old sod and for a man of his supposed intelligence, he is being incredibly stupid by overstaying his welcome …he could have quite easily left the club on good terms at any time after one of the FA cup wins but it could end up very messy,

Pierre

James wood I am probably 5/10 years younger than you and Charlie George was and still is my all time idol … He came into his own in the FA cup in the 70/71 double season after breaking his leg at Everton in I think it was the first game of the season and returned to the side in January and scored a fantastic goal in the 3rd round replay v Portsmouth then went on to score a couple away to man city a superb header v Leicester in the quarter finals and scored the winner in the final v… Read more »

Frankie Coffeecakes

He’s overstaying his welcome Pierre, because he has absolutely no life outside of football. Equally, who in their right mind would ever give Wenger this opportunity and with this much power, ever again?

Wenger has chosen his path and his sense of self-entitlement will be his undoing. No one in their right mind relishes, let alone thrives in their own self made misery. Thats what is the most puzzling aspect of this all, he’s done it to himself.

Michael24

CC and BobN16 Agree, 100%. A true supporter is someone who passionately follows the team, through thick and thin, commits their life and soul to the club and has a pride in and attachment for their team, that is unbreakable. Whether it’s 5, 20 or 50 years, there is no set time scale for this allegiance and commitment to your club. As stated, this bond should be unbreakable and yet, under exceptional circumstances, this connection can be tarnished or even severed if and when the club distances itself from its fanbase by – disrespecting them, showing contempt towards them and,… Read more »

HillWood

Wenger says it’s “baffling “ how they lost to Newcastle
If he doesn’t know why he keeps losing away matches there is no chance he can see how to win them

Pierre

FC
I agree that he has no life outside of football but I’m sure if he said he was leaving today there would be a stream of clubs( probably not elite ) after him including national teams so he could easily stay within football .

He is probably still clinging on to the belief that he can turn it around and make us into a title winning/ chasing side again . .but as I write that I think to myself “then why doesn’t he sort centre mid and defence out” ….

Bob N16

‘No set timescale’ Michael….you’re slightly contradicting yourself with a ‘temporary sabbatical’. I don’t really believe you can suspend your passion for Arsenal, I know I can’t.
Remind yourself that Wenger will leave, sooner rather than later.

PhD07

JAMES WOODApril 16, 2018 18:03:53
phD07
Only Miss Martin the art teacher she was quite active.:)
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That said,I do remember my hot English teacher.A wonderful teacher at that.
She was a throwback(to the Audrey Hepburn) in time.Oozed class,without effort.

Then we had the French teacher-she was just something else.

Yeah, we were spoilt,but in a nice beautiful way.

Now,we have arseholes,that want to dominate,or seek pure revisionist theories.

Sigh!!!

Bob N16

Pierre, that’s what I can’t get my head around. If he’s so desperate to succeed at Arsenal why doesn’t he address the obvious failings of the team, it’s mystifying.

HillWood

Pierre
Charlie George conducted my tour of Highbury
He was very knowledgeable and pleasant
It was a memorable few hours inside The Marble Halls

Alex Cutter

Pedro.

Your parents must be so proud. Do you think that when they were writing checks for your expensive education they ever dreamt that you’d end up doing social media marketing for a living and hosting a blog populated by half-wits, MRAs, racists and whatever you call the brit versions of alt-right fuckheads?

When you hit 30 you’re going to wake up to an ugly realization about how you’ve spent the past decade, and what you can look forward to in the next. Get out while you can.

Frankie Coffeecakes

Im not so certain of that, Pierre. With each passing day and with Arsenal in further decline opportunities , as you mention, may have already begun to dry up. Arsenal is a plum job for certain, equally not sure if Wenger would be interested in starting over, so to say.

Bob N16

Arsenal u18 4-0 up at HT in youth cup semi.

Frankie Coffeecakes

@Alex – LOL

Pierre

Anyone who ridicules the club the way michael24 does shouldn’t be given the time of day …

We all have our moan and wish for better but to wish Arsenal to lose in a semi or a final then I’m sorry but they are not a supporter of the club and should take their whinging elsewhere.

Frankie Coffeecakes

@Pierre – “but as I write that I think to myself “then why doesn’t he sort centre mid and defence out” ….”

And therein lies the real question. Surely he must see it? Surely he must know? Then why does he so steadfastly refuse to address the issues?

englandsbest

I know it’s tongue-in-cheek that away fans should stay away, but if we are deadly serious about persuading Wenger to go (and even better, getting the owner to take us seriously) then we should ALL stay away. The likelihood is that this will happen anyway, given time, turning up is no longer a joyous occasion, it’s a painful duty. Any other owner of a top Club would have fired Wenger years ago. So why hasn’t Kroenke? The answer seems obvious to me: he is happy with him. Or at any rate, happy enough to keep him. Look no further than… Read more »

James wood

Pierre
Not forgetting Charlie had two spells at Derby
and actually scored a hat trick against Real Madrid
in the European cup.
He scored more goals for Derby than Arsenal.
A legend in my eyes.

Redtruth

Wenger has opened up the club to ridicule..shameful..

Pierre

HillWood
I was with my 2 boys, who are in their early 20’s , and we had a special day out in club class and as we were walking around Charlie George walked passed us and my boys said my face was a picture…as I said he was my idol from childhood …gobsmacked.

David Smith

Stan is known as being financially risk averse. Unless Wenger gets us back in the CL via the EL, keeping him on would not fit with this risk averse side of Stan. If he keeps Wenger on next year, very little chance of returning to the CL, so it will cost , not his own money, but certainly the brand and a source of collateral. He could instead appoint a manager with a proper coaching structure on far less than Wenger who gives us much more chance of a CL place and the benefits that go with it. If Stan… Read more »

PhD07

For those that missed it earlier.Subject to interference,because it touched s particular poster,that loves dishing it out.& ran to the hotline.Because he can’t take criticism in equal measure-this is my signing out.If you are going to ban someone-apply it equally. As the blog states-to paraphrase,”it’s an opinion where you can give.” ————— Champagne charlieApril 16, 2018 12:48:16 Make a stupid comment, proclaim someone is doing/sayig something else entirely and then you’ve no follow up to bein challenges on it. You’re impressively stupid. The faux intellectual stuff is cringeworthy. The absolute state you must be out in the real world haha… Read more »

PhD07

All the best for everyone.

steve

Lol at Wengers baffling comments. The only thing baffling his how this senile cunt is still in a job,

Pierre

You amens wood
“Not forgetting Charlie had two spells at Derby
and actually scored a hat trick against Real Madrid
in the European cup.
He scored more goals for Derby than Arsenal.
A legend in my eyes.”

A legend without a doubt …..I was at the FA cup tie when we were away to Derby when Charlie scored 2 in the mud and then gave the famous 2 fingered saluteto the Derby fans and then he went and signed for them .

HillWood

Michael24
I bet Fulham are putting up the bunting in anticipation of your arrival at Craven Cottage

steve

Pierre thinking getting some new players in will change anything. New players managed by the same clueless manager. Daft cunt.

steve

Someone should punch Wenger in the face.

Redtruth

Pierre

Your Idol would be ashamed of you if he knew the stance you took on the club

steve

“I agree , all those season ticket holders who refuse to go to the games and withdraw their support like Ufraud should have their tickets revoked and let genuine supporters have the chance to see The Arsenal every week .”

Those who attend games at this stage are mugs and should be treated as such.

WrightIsGod

This blog is suffering from apathy

Bob N16

Steve, you’re quite the hard man!

Berg

Korenke isn’t that bothered about results and winning trophies as long as the value of the club continues to rise. He will have already doubled his investment if he sells tomorrow. Yes the extra revenue from champions league helps but it isn’t the end of the world

Carts

Pierre “Personally, I think the Wenger out brigade started way too early after the invincibles and ces/ rvp era so they lost any credibility.” Fuck right off with the disingenuous bollocks. Started way too early? You mean the best part of a handful of people who expected us to win the league year in, year out? No me neither. You’re emblematic of why there’s such a divide when there doesn’t need to be one. The issue with Wenger wasn’t that we failed to win the league, per se. It was more to do with the fact that Wenger had no… Read more »

Bob N16

True Berg, but to use an analogy Kroenke’s said ‘stick’ a fair few times, I think a ‘twist’ is just around the corner.

Michael24

Le Grove

Pierre

Carts The Wenger out campaign has been going about ten years , correct . What I was saying was the campaign lost all credibility because at the start of it we had a quality side with ces ,nasri rvp , cliche ,ade,song etc …it was a team that was ripped apart by city and Barca who had money unlike Arsenal who had just moved to a new stadium and couldn’t go out and spend fortunes . I thought it was disgusting that this group of ignorant morons (wobs)didn’t have the brains to recognise what was happening and subjected Wenger to… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Michael24

Wouldn’t exactly say you’re fit for throwing mud at other posters considering you told a story last week about how many arsenal shirts you saw at a school football camp, then used it as “evidence” for our supposed commercial downfall.

HillWood

Michael 24
At some point in your gap year at Craven Cottage,google the term cottaging

Michael24

Pierre Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear………………..oh dear! Are you really that naive? Do you really believe that Arsenal suffered because of teams with “money” and because we couldn’t “go out and spend fortunes?” Wenger wanted you to believe all these things. That’s part of his mission statement. Try and get you on his side by making excuses. It’s in his personal remit. He has always had this ability to suck people in with his garbage rhetoric. Wenger deserves the wrath of fans over these past twelve years, it’s just a shame he doesn’t give a toss about… Read more »

Berg

Who on here actually thinks Korenke will sack Wenger and pay him off for a year? Doubt will make a big difference as without serious investment we won’t be challenging anytime soon

Michael24

CC

See’s and believes in everything based on reports and spreadsheets, but not by applying basic common sense.

Got to have a good chuckle.

Redtruth

I see Pierre is pissed again..

PhD07

Champagne charlieApril 16, 2018 20:21:17
Michael24Wouldn’t exactly say you’re fit for throwing mud at other posters considering you told a story last week about how many arsenal shirts you saw at a school football camp, then used it as “evidence” for our supposed commercial downfall.
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I did almost choke my drink on that one.Very funny indeed.
Oh-Le-Grove..
Brings up some chuckling moments..

You are funny CC-I’ll give you that.

Michael24

“Throwing mud at other posters”, who I consider to be complete dipshits, is deserved. @A14 being a prime example.

Arsenal are in meltdown and have been for far too long, so those individuals who accept the status quo and continue to tolerate manic Wenger, must take the consequences.

Welcome to my world.

PhD07

RedtruthApril 16, 2018 20:58:55
I see Pierre is pissed again..
————-
Hey Redtrruth,

Long time no hear.How are you doing?
What do you think of ZZ as a player and a manager?

Marko

For the slow decline and the recent utter embarrassment that he’s overseen he should be sacked. You can argue that he should have been let go or at least not offered any contracts the last couple ones offered but now we’re in a position where we have to sack him. We owe him nothing. What are we going to do waste another season because he’s too stupid to walk away himself? He doesn’t deserve that anyway he’s done a terrible job sack him move the fuck on

Carts

Pierre

10 years? Do you realise how small that contingent were? So small that it didn’t gain any real traction until about 5 years ago, properly.

Our poor contract management and Wenger incessant desire to play inferior players was the main reason.

Not addressing our goalkeeping or truly going out and buying a DM was his undoing. He expected loyalty from players that had greater ambitions.

Marko

I don’t even want to see the words by mutual decision he deserves to be sacked. SACKED. That is what he deserves

Michael24

PhD07

Not half as funny as someone finding @CC funny.

Anyone who promotes their user name, based on a PhD, obviously is a natural comedian or a complete and utter ignoramus.

Take your pick.

Redtruth

Shit player shit manager.

Redtruth

Aubergine

Stop projecting your AKB’s on everyone..

Pierre

Carts
5 years… Not backtracking by any chance are you.

5 years ago we won the cup final and you are trying to tell me that the Wenger outs were ” So small that it didn’t gain any real traction until about 5 years ago, properly.”…. Bullshit and you know it…

Carts

Pierre

10 years ago, it was only c.3 years since we had won the FAC against Utd.

The majority of supporters were still very much on Wenger’s side. The calls for him to leave were beyond minuscule.

5 years ago was 2013, and even then, the WOBs were rightfully campaigning for Wenger to leave on a high. Again, those supporters were still being ridiculed and getting smacked around the stadium

PhD07

RedtruthApril 16, 2018 21:20:22 Shit player shit manager. ———- Now you are certainly trolling.Lol ZZ Player:- Bordeaux UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1995 Juventus Serie A: 1996–97, 1997–98 Supercoppa Italiana: 1997 UEFA Super Cup: 1996 Intercontinental Cup: 1996 UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1999 ——- Real Madrid La Liga: 2002–03 Supercopa de España: 2001, 2003 UEFA Champions League: 2001–02 UEFA Super Cup: 2002 Intercontinental Cup: 2002 ————- International France FIFA World Cup: 1998 UEFA European Championship: 2000 ———- Individual French Division 1 Young Player of the Year: 1993–94 French Division 1 Player of the Year: 1995–96 Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year: 1996–97,… Read more »

String

A14
Twat enough said

Champagne charlie

Michael24

I live in a world governed by science and fact.

Excuse me for not using anecdotal nonsense to distort something into fitting ‘my reality’.

Your take on Arsenal as a commercial entity was/is hilarious. Continuing to defend a comparison of the school playground to measureable revenue figures and social media activity is embarrassing though…

…I’d probably quiet down on that a tad. Better to possibly be a moron, than confirm it.

PhD07

Le-grove is certainly a leveller.That’s for sure.

Redtruth

Phil Neville

Manchester United
FA Premier League (6): 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03
FA Cup (3): 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
FA Community Shield (3): 1996, 1997, 2003
UEFA Champions League (1): 1998–99
Intercontinental Cup (1): 1999

PhD07

RedtruthApril 16, 2018 22:14:44
Phil NevilleManchester United
FA Premier League (6): 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03
FA Cup (3): 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
FA Community Shield (3): 1996, 1997, 2003
UEFA Champions League (1): 1998–99
Intercontinental Cup (1): 1999
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& your point is?????

Redtruth

Phil Neville has won more trophies than Zidane lol

PhD07

RedtruthApril 16, 2018 22:14:44

As I said before,you are funny.Love your style dude.But pretty hilariously.

PhD07

RedtruthApril 16, 2018 22:19:38
Phil Neville has won more trophies than Zidane lol
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I guess World Cup’s & European Cup’s don’t count then?

PhD07

*But pretty hilarious

Is the nonce dead yet?

Champagne charlie

Oh good, TYAG has arrived to inject some intellectual debate

Not at all numb nuts. Just wondering if the child catcher has snuffed it yet. One can wish I suppose

Champagne charlie

You sound like you’re rambling about events from your childhood. It’ll be ok…

GuNZ

The Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang! That creature traumatised me when I was a kid. Wenger, son of child Catcher. Much is explained.

Michael24

CC

“I live in a world governed by science and fact”

The scientific philosophies of Arsene Wenger and the fact that he is a crap manager.

Wonderful world you live in Charlie.

Try and live for the moment and don’t rely on others to hold your hand.

No wonder the world is in the state it’s in.

Wallace

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/apr/16/pep-guardiola-next-challenge-manchester-city-win-champions-league “City have the most points, most shots, most goals and most passes. They’ve been strolling away at the top of the league since the fifth week of the season, a 6-0 win at Watford nestled in the middle of a 5-0, a 4-0, a 5-0 and a 7-2. In reality it is not possible to win more convincingly than this. Not least when, besides the numbers, there is also the basic tone and texture of this league title, the sense of players stretching out into the fringes of their own talent, finding new patterns and rhythms. From August into… Read more »

Rambo Ramsey

Wallace, why did you miss out the next Paragraph

‘En route to winning the title and a League Cup Guardiola has spent £448m on players in two seasons, the greatest single transfer splurge in history.’