Giving up the league Wenger’s master strategy for toppling Atletico

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Once again, Arsene Wenger finds himself in a situation where he can excuse the rapid decline of the club. His team tanked in blue again, losing 2-1 to a very average Newcastle side, but somehow, the press has brushed this off as a byproduct of searching for Europa League glory.

Partly, that could be seen as true. However, as is everything with Arsene Wenger, you need to have context. If this were off the back of a scintillating season, you could perhaps acknowledge the changing shape of our form. That’s not the case though. Our form is an illness that’s plagued the club for years now.

This season’s particular ailment happens to be away form. We just lost our 5th away game in a row this season, we’re the only club in the league to not have registered a single point away from home in 2018. In the home league table, we’d be third, in the away league table we’re bottom half. It’s staggering how damaged we are once we step off the away day bus. What makes this problem even worse, is Wenger has teed up the atmosphere at home as a reason for poor form in the past. Maybe the lack of fans > the lack of venom is our secret sauce for away games? Maybe away fans are the problem?

The game wasn’t much to write home about. Lacazette and Auba combined nicely inside the opening 15 minutes, Lacazette reaching a teasing cross at the back post. Then it all collapsed in a combination of low energy and silly defensive mistakes. The whole defense was beaten route one from a Shelvey hoof to Gayle, he held onto it, laid the ball off for a tidy front post cross finish by Perez. The second time Mustafi has been caught napping in a week, in exactly the same move.

Who spoke to him after he made the same mistake against Southampton?

The second came from a throw. Mustafi made a hash of it, Monreal made a double hash of it, Slimani nodded to Perez, who laid it into Ritchie, with the finish inevitable.

Losing 2-1 to Newcastle is shabby, they are Championship level. It does show you how good Rafa is as a coach. He’s taken a very poor group of players and crafted a masterful season, hats off to those boys.

But what does it say about Arsenal? Wenger has let the concentration handbrake off on the season. Burnley are closing in on us, terrible records are closing in on Arsenal. It’s really not looking good. Mourinho pulled this stunt towards the end of the last season, but his path to Europa glory was easy… but it was still a gamble.

Wenger now has Atleti in the semi-final. I’m not sure bombing the league is in his interest, because if he gets beaten, which seems likely, all he has to fall back on are the facts from the season.

> You spent a load of money

> You didn’t improve the team in any way

> We didn’t make Champions League again

> You didn’t win anything

How can the club possibly back him for another season like this?

Also, there’s an argument to say that when you’re still playing for something, as a player, you should be fighting for your place. Keeping your game sharp. It’s hardly helpful that Mustafi and Chambers are recording disaster classes on the regular. It’s not a positive to keep getting your ass handed to you. I think it’s arrogant. Sure, we’ve had an extra gear in the Europa League this season, but that’s only because the competition has been absolutely dross. The idea that we can switch off in the league in prep for playing one of the best teams in Europe is quite horrifying.

What all this shows is that Wenger doesn’t care about winning. He doesn’t know how to motivate players. He is utterly lost as an elite manager.

Worth noting that Atletico won 3-0 vs Levante as they cement 2nd place in La Liga. They’re up to 71 points, still pushing for a league they have next to no chance of winning. That’s proper coaching.

I guess if Wenger shows Simeone how it’s done over 2 legs, we really will have no argument over this season.

There’s also an ugly rumour doing the rounds that Wenger reckons he’s going nowhere, goading the club into trying to fire him.

Can you imagine being that arrogant about your future? Only Arsenal would be meek enough to have their next seasons plan geared around the hope their manager is self-aware enough to fire himself.

Pathetic.

Right, see you in the comments. I’m back in England this week. Also, I have a treat coming up for you in a few weeks. I have a bonified expert in fitness, and he’s going to talk to us about red zones, player loads, j-curves and a host of other shit you had no idea about that goes into keeping players fit.

I am VERY excited about that.

Also, moving forward, no more drunk podcasts. I apologise for that.

234 Responses to “Giving up the league Wenger’s master strategy for toppling Atletico”

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  1. Pierre

    HillWood
    I was with my 2 boys, who are in their early 20’s , and we had a special day out in club class and as we were walking around Charlie George walked passed us and my boys said my face was a picture…as I said he was my idol from childhood …gobsmacked.

  2. David Smith

    Stan is known as being financially risk averse.
    Unless Wenger gets us back in the CL via the EL, keeping him on would not fit with this risk averse side of Stan.
    If he keeps Wenger on next year, very little chance of returning to the CL, so it will cost , not his own money, but certainly the brand and a source of collateral.
    He could instead appoint a manager with a proper coaching structure on far less than Wenger who gives us much more chance of a CL place and the benefits that go with it. If Stan is too thick to see this, I don’t if his advisers are.
    Playing devils advocate, is it possible Stan only renewed Wenger , reportedly against the wishes of his board, son and CEO last summer because there was no plan in place for wengers departure? That is no longer the case.
    Whatever Wenger is going around and saying, many signs point to Europe or bust for Wenger,including the team selection at Newcastle.
    But of course he would still have to pay off Wenger something for the final year, which is why if he does go this summer, we could end up with someone relatively cheap, and cheap to get rid of if it doesn’t work out, Mulars theory on Arteta would make sense from that point of view at least.

  3. PhD07

    For those that missed it earlier.Subject to interference,because it touched s particular poster,that loves dishing it out.& ran to the hotline.Because he can’t take criticism in equal measure-this is my signing out.If you are going to ban someone-apply it equally.
    As the blog states-to paraphrase,”it’s an opinion where you can give.”
    —————
    Champagne charlieApril 16, 2018 12:48:16
    Make a stupid comment, proclaim someone is doing/sayig something else entirely and then you’ve no follow up to bein challenges on it. You’re impressively stupid. The faux intellectual stuff is cringeworthy. The absolute state you must be out in the real world haha
    ————–
    As I alluded to yesterday-he’s lives in a make believe(fantasy) world,a deluded ,shifty fantasist one at that.

    “Harvard”-laughable and tragic in equal measure.
    “Teacher’-face palm
    “Baller”- well *Neymargate” tells us all you need to know.

    Cheers.

  4. Pierre

    You amens wood
    “Not forgetting Charlie had two spells at Derby
    and actually scored a hat trick against Real Madrid
    in the European cup.
    He scored more goals for Derby than Arsenal.
    A legend in my eyes.”

    A legend without a doubt …..I was at the FA cup tie when we were away to Derby when Charlie scored 2 in the mud and then gave the famous 2 fingered saluteto the Derby fans and then he went and signed for them .

  5. steve

    Pierre thinking getting some new players in will change anything. New players managed by the same clueless manager. Daft cunt.

  6. Aubergine14

    steve

    Speaks volumes about the sort of man, sorry boy, you are that you’d want to punch a pensioner in the face.

    How about trying it on someone that’d do something about it you scumbag?

  7. steve

    “I agree , all those season ticket holders who refuse to go to the games and withdraw their support like Ufraud should have their tickets revoked and let genuine supporters have the chance to see The Arsenal every week .”

    Those who attend games at this stage are mugs and should be treated as such.

  8. Berg

    Korenke isn’t that bothered about results and winning trophies as long as the value of the club continues to rise. He will have already doubled his investment if he sells tomorrow. Yes the extra revenue from champions league helps but it isn’t the end of the world

  9. Carts

    Pierre

    “Personally, I think the Wenger out brigade started way too early after the invincibles and ces/ rvp era so they lost any credibility.”

    Fuck right off with the disingenuous bollocks. Started way too early? You mean the best part of a handful of people who expected us to win the league year in, year out? No me neither.

    You’re emblematic of why there’s such a divide when there doesn’t need to be one.

    The issue with Wenger wasn’t that we failed to win the league, per se. It was more to do with the fact that Wenger had no idea how to build a cohesive capable of even looking like we had a chance in hell.

    Supporters that saw this from the outset had every reason to suggest change, as far back as then. Where you’re painting those fans as myopic, at the time, sadly they’ve been proven right.

  10. Bob N16

    True Berg, but to use an analogy Kroenke’s said ‘stick’ a fair few times, I think a ‘twist’ is just around the corner.

  11. Michael24

    Aubergine14

    Are you another one of those unique posters who, unashamedly, stands up for something that is not fit for purpose?

    We!come to Let Grove. Your valued input is greatly anticipated but please, in the meantime, give me your insight into what makes 2018 Arsenal such a viable commodity.

    Gulp! You’re already agreeing with @ Pierre, so I don’t hold out too much hope for an intelligible response.

    Should I give you the benefit of the doubt?

  12. Pierre

    Carts

    The Wenger out campaign has been going about ten years , correct .

    What I was saying was the campaign lost all credibility because at the start of it we had a quality side with ces ,nasri rvp , cliche ,ade,song etc …it was a team that was ripped apart by city and Barca who had money unlike Arsenal who had just moved to a new stadium and couldn’t go out and spend fortunes .

    I thought it was disgusting that this group of ignorant morons (wobs)didn’t have the brains to recognise what was happening and subjected Wenger to undeserved abuse.

    we were competitive in those days , often near thee top but we never had a large enough squad to cope when the champions league kicked back in and usually the injuries started stacking up plus a few broken legs( Eduardo ,Ramsey ,Diaby) at crucial stages in the season.(all dodgy tackles).

    So no ,Wenger did not deserve the abuse as at that stage he was doing a very good job under difficult circumstances.

  13. Champagne charlie

    Michael24

    Wouldn’t exactly say you’re fit for throwing mud at other posters considering you told a story last week about how many arsenal shirts you saw at a school football camp, then used it as “evidence” for our supposed commercial downfall.

  14. Michael24

    Pierre

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear………………..oh dear!

    Are you really that naive?

    Do you really believe that Arsenal suffered because of teams with “money” and because we couldn’t “go out and spend fortunes?”

    Wenger wanted you to believe all these things. That’s part of his mission statement. Try and get you on his side by making excuses. It’s in his personal remit.

    He has always had this ability to suck people in with his garbage rhetoric.

    Wenger deserves the wrath of fans over these past twelve years, it’s just a shame he doesn’t give a toss about it.

  15. Berg

    Who on here actually thinks Korenke will sack Wenger and pay him off for a year? Doubt will make a big difference as without serious investment we won’t be challenging anytime soon

  16. Michael24

    CC

    See’s and believes in everything based on reports and spreadsheets, but not by applying basic common sense.

    Got to have a good chuckle.

  17. PhD07

    Champagne charlieApril 16, 2018 20:21:17
    Michael24Wouldn’t exactly say you’re fit for throwing mud at other posters considering you told a story last week about how many arsenal shirts you saw at a school football camp, then used it as “evidence” for our supposed commercial downfall.
    —–
    I did almost choke my drink on that one.Very funny indeed.
    Oh-Le-Grove..
    Brings up some chuckling moments..

    You are funny CC-I’ll give you that.

  18. Michael24

    “Throwing mud at other posters”, who I consider to be complete dipshits, is deserved. @A14 being a prime example.

    Arsenal are in meltdown and have been for far too long, so those individuals who accept the status quo and continue to tolerate manic Wenger, must take the consequences.

    Welcome to my world.

  19. Aubergine14

    M24

    Are you another one of those unique football coaches who buys the kids a new pair of boots if they do something nice for you?

  20. PhD07

    RedtruthApril 16, 2018 20:58:55
    I see Pierre is pissed again..
    ————-
    Hey Redtrruth,

    Long time no hear.How are you doing?
    What do you think of ZZ as a player and a manager?

  21. Marko

    For the slow decline and the recent utter embarrassment that he’s overseen he should be sacked. You can argue that he should have been let go or at least not offered any contracts the last couple ones offered but now we’re in a position where we have to sack him. We owe him nothing. What are we going to do waste another season because he’s too stupid to walk away himself? He doesn’t deserve that anyway he’s done a terrible job sack him move the fuck on

  22. Carts

    Pierre

    10 years? Do you realise how small that contingent were? So small that it didn’t gain any real traction until about 5 years ago, properly.

    Our poor contract management and Wenger incessant desire to play inferior players was the main reason.

    Not addressing our goalkeeping or truly going out and buying a DM was his undoing. He expected loyalty from players that had greater ambitions.

  23. Aubergine14

    M24

    The fact you’re supposed to be an adult is what’s frightening.

    M24s guide to being the ultimate football supporter.

    Step 1 – Stop attending games
    Step 2- Abuse and shit on the club at every opportunity
    Step 3 – Slag off the punters that still love match day and everything that comes with it
    Step 4- Find a local club that’s doing well/flavour of the month and start following them. Following not supporting. Look it up in the dictionary as you seem unaware of what it actually means.

    I don’t think it’s just me when I say you don’t just turn off your support like a light switch….unless you’re a plastic muppet.

  24. Marko

    I don’t even want to see the words by mutual decision he deserves to be sacked. SACKED. That is what he deserves

  25. Michael24

    PhD07

    Not half as funny as someone finding @CC funny.

    Anyone who promotes their user name, based on a PhD, obviously is a natural comedian or a complete and utter ignoramus.

    Take your pick.

  26. Michael24

    Aubergine14

    Highly intelligent response, obviously a great deal of thought went into that.

    Is that really the best you can come up with?

    I look forward to your daily input.

    Thankyou your honour, I rest my case.

  27. Pierre

    Carts
    5 years… Not backtracking by any chance are you.

    5 years ago we won the cup final and you are trying to tell me that the Wenger outs were ” So small that it didn’t gain any real traction until about 5 years ago, properly.”…. Bullshit and you know it…

  28. Carts

    Pierre

    10 years ago, it was only c.3 years since we had won the FAC against Utd.

    The majority of supporters were still very much on Wenger’s side. The calls for him to leave were beyond minuscule.

    5 years ago was 2013, and even then, the WOBs were rightfully campaigning for Wenger to leave on a high. Again, those supporters were still being ridiculed and getting smacked around the stadium

  29. PhD07

    RedtruthApril 16, 2018 21:20:22
    Shit player shit manager.
    ———-
    Now you are certainly trolling.Lol

    ZZ Player:-
    Bordeaux
    UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1995

    Juventus
    Serie A: 1996–97, 1997–98
    Supercoppa Italiana: 1997
    UEFA Super Cup: 1996
    Intercontinental Cup: 1996
    UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1999
    ——-
    Real Madrid
    La Liga: 2002–03
    Supercopa de España: 2001, 2003
    UEFA Champions League: 2001–02
    UEFA Super Cup: 2002
    Intercontinental Cup: 2002

    ————-
    International
    France
    FIFA World Cup: 1998
    UEFA European Championship: 2000
    ———-
    Individual
    French Division 1 Young Player of the Year: 1993–94
    French Division 1 Player of the Year: 1995–96
    Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year: 1996–97, 2000–01
    Ballon d’Or: Bronze award 1997
    FIFA World Player of the Year: Bronze award 1997, 2002
    Onze d’Argent: 1997, 2002, 2003
    ESM Team of the Year: 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03, 2003–04
    UEFA Club Midfielder of the Year: 1998
    L’Équipe International Champion of Champions: 1998
    L’Équipe France Champion of Champions: 1998
    FIFA World Cup Final Man of the Match: 1998
    FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 1998, 2006
    World Soccer Awards Player of the Year: 1998
    French Player of the Year: 1998, 2002
    Onze d’Or: 1998, 2000, 2001
    Ballon d’Or: 1998
    FIFA World Player of the Year: 1998, 2000, 2003[3]
    FIFA XI: 1998
    El País European Player of the Year: 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003
    Onze de Bronze: 1999
    World Soccer’s Selection of the 100 Greatest Footballers of the 20th century: 1999
    Ballon d’Or: Silver award 2000
    UEFA European Championship Player of the Tournament: 2000
    UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2000, 2004
    Serie A top assist provider: 2000–01
    Serie A Footballer of the Year: 2000–01
    UEFA Team of the Year: 2001, 2002, 2003
    UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2002
    Don Balón Award: 2001–02
    La Liga Best Foreign Player: 2001–02
    UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2002
    FIFA World Cup Dream Team: 2002
    FIFA 100: 2004
    UEFA Best European Player of the Past 50 Years: 2004
    FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2005, 2006
    IFFHS World’s Best Playmaker: 2006
    FIFA World Cup Golden Ball: 2006
    FIFA World Player of the Year: Silver award 2006
    UNFP Honorary Award: 2007
    AFS Top-100 Players of All Time: 2007
    Marca Leyenda Award: 2008
    Golden Foot Legends Award: 2008
    ESPN Team of the Decade: 2009
    ESPN Player of the Decade: 2009
    Fox Sports Player of the Decade: 2009
    Sports Illustrated Team of the Decade: 2009
    Sports Illustrated Player of the Decade: 2009
    Don Balón Team of the Decade: 2010
    Don Balón Player of the Decade: 2010
    Laureus Lifetime Achievement Award: 2011
    UEFA team of teams: 2011
    UEFA Champions League Best Player of the Past 20 Years: 2011
    Équipe type spéciale 20 ans des trophées UNFP: 2011
    Real Madrid Greatest XI of All Time: 2012
    World Soccer Greatest XI of All Time: 2013
    Real Madrid Hall of fame: 2014
    UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year (substitute): 2015
    IFFHS Legends: 2016
    UEFA Euro All Time XI: 2016
    FourFourTwo’s Selection of the 100 Greatest Footballers of All Time: 2017
    Juventus Greatest XI of All Time: 2017
    ——————-
    ZZ Manager:-
    Real Madrid
    La Liga: 2016–17
    Supercopa de España: 2017
    UEFA Champions League: 2015–16, 2016–17
    UEFA Super Cup: 2016, 2017
    FIFA Club World Cup: 2016, 2017
    ———–
    You are funny..Very funny indeed.Love your style.

  30. UTarse

    Little p,
    “aubergine14
    I agree , all those season ticket holders who refuse to go to the games and withdraw their support like Ufraud should have their tickets revoked and let genuine supporters have the chance to see The Arsenal every week .”

    You really are obsessed with me aren’t you little p ? And extremely thick too…. on one hand you say that I’m supporting the club/wenger by paying my ST money and now you claim I’ve withdrawn my support by not going to games ? So you think that the other 20,000 fans not going to games anymore should also have their tickets revoked ?

    NUMPTY.

  31. Champagne charlie

    Michael24

    I live in a world governed by science and fact.

    Excuse me for not using anecdotal nonsense to distort something into fitting ‘my reality’.

    Your take on Arsenal as a commercial entity was/is hilarious. Continuing to defend a comparison of the school playground to measureable revenue figures and social media activity is embarrassing though…

    …I’d probably quiet down on that a tad. Better to possibly be a moron, than confirm it.

  32. Redtruth

    Phil Neville

    Manchester United
    FA Premier League (6): 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03
    FA Cup (3): 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
    FA Community Shield (3): 1996, 1997, 2003
    UEFA Champions League (1): 1998–99
    Intercontinental Cup (1): 1999

  33. PhD07

    RedtruthApril 16, 2018 22:14:44
    Phil NevilleManchester United
    FA Premier League (6): 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03
    FA Cup (3): 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
    FA Community Shield (3): 1996, 1997, 2003
    UEFA Champions League (1): 1998–99
    Intercontinental Cup (1): 1999
    ———-
    & your point is?????

  34. PhD07

    RedtruthApril 16, 2018 22:14:44

    As I said before,you are funny.Love your style dude.But pretty hilariously.

  35. PhD07

    RedtruthApril 16, 2018 22:19:38
    Phil Neville has won more trophies than Zidane lol
    —————-
    I guess World Cup’s & European Cup’s don’t count then?

  36. Thank you and goodnight

    Not at all numb nuts. Just wondering if the child catcher has snuffed it yet. One can wish I suppose

  37. GuNZ

    The Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang! That creature traumatised me when I was a kid. Wenger, son of child Catcher. Much is explained.

  38. Michael24

    CC

    “I live in a world governed by science and fact”

    The scientific philosophies of Arsene Wenger and the fact that he is a crap manager.

    Wonderful world you live in Charlie.

    Try and live for the moment and don’t rely on others to hold your hand.

    No wonder the world is in the state it’s in.

  39. Wallace

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/apr/16/pep-guardiola-next-challenge-manchester-city-win-champions-league

    “City have the most points, most shots, most goals and most passes. They’ve been strolling away at the top of the league since the fifth week of the season, a 6-0 win at Watford nestled in the middle of a 5-0, a 4-0, a 5-0 and a 7-2.

    In reality it is not possible to win more convincingly than this. Not least when, besides the numbers, there is also the basic tone and texture of this league title, the sense of players stretching out into the fringes of their own talent, finding new patterns and rhythms.

    From August into April these Premier League champions have been a rare joy, a team that keep the ball with the usual Pep-issue mania but come forward in a relentless swarm, spreading the game into every available part of the space whatever the score, whatever the time on the clock, always unapologetically itself.

    It is worth noting that had City failed to deliver this season the same Manchester United team who clanked their way to a square-headed title-sealing defeat by West Brom may now be in line to win the Premier League.

    In the event United’s expensive brand of stodge is a reminder of just how difficult it is to engineer drive and fluency in a standard modern team of expensive bolt-on parts. By contrast, the champions have been a rare gift, a reminder that for all its vested interests, its fixed hierarchies, elite modern football can still be a genuinely uplifting thing.”

  40. Rambo Ramsey

    Wallace, why did you miss out the next Paragraph

    ‘En route to winning the title and a League Cup Guardiola has spent £448m on players in two seasons, the greatest single transfer splurge in history.’

  41. Wallace

    Rambo Ramsey

    “Wallace, why did you miss out the next Paragraph – ‘En route to winning the title and a League Cup Guardiola has spent £448m on players in two seasons, the greatest single transfer splurge in history.’”

    Ronay’s already supplied my response…

    “By contrast, the champions have been a rare gift, a reminder that for all its vested interests, its fixed hierarchies, elite modern football can still be a genuinely uplifting thing.”

  42. Pierre

    It is so often said that to get success you need stability at a football club, allow the manager to create his own philosophy at the club and titles will come.

    In the last 5 years City and Chelsea have dominated the Premier league(Leicester are the exception) … Have they had stability at the top, not really… City have had 3 different managers in the last 6 years as have Chelsea..

    Because Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger had so much success and they were the longest serving managers it is still assumed, at Arsenal anyway, that that is the best way to achieve success.

    Of course having an endless supply of money is a deciding factor as teams like city, Chelsea and united can blow teams out of the water when buying and attracting new players… Top players will always go where the top money is as they know they can maximise their earning potential and consequently have a greater chance of success on the field.

    The Arsenal model of stability is not working because stability has led to stagnation and apathy and this needs to be changed asap.
    A new manager coming into the club will create a healthy vibe and energy that has been missing…
    Of course a new manager won’t automatically guarantee success but the club needs a new direction.. The change to the back room staff has helped, the dealings in the January transfer window is proof of that.
    The perfect scenario for me is for Arsenal to win the Europa cup and then for Wenger to step down… I’m an Allegri fan, he is what we need at this moment in time.

  43. HighburyLegend

    “The perfect scenario for me is for Arsenal to win the Europa cup and then for Wenger to step down”

    Have a much more realistic scenario for you: how about not winning the ELC, plus le senile twat is gonna stay ??

  44. Champagne charlie

    “Try and live for the moment and don’t rely on others to hold your hand. No wonder the world is in the state it’s in.”

    What does that even mean? I swear your comments are more and more bizarre as the days pass

  45. Victorious

    The divide in the fan-base presently is shockingly mind-boggling,you need not look beyond legrove to witness first-hand how the WOB’s have further evolved into what now looks like a ‘cult’.. this set of fans are violent in nature and are ready to let go of any credibility left in them an attempt to undermine the achievements of Wenger and wish all sorts of evil upon the man,they even claim he is mentally unstable(despite being our most successful manager to date)ridiculous enough?……wait for it

    The hatred is so strong and irrational that you’d be pilloried with all forms of insults when you make a balance argument in his favor,its really a shocking and equally embarrassing situation

    You are called an AKB for wanting the club to be successful,an apologist for wanting the manager to bow out gracefully,a mug for attending matches,a 12 year old for not calling him a ‘cunt’or typing ‘Wenger out’ in every post you make, it really has become tedious and painfully sad to see supposed adults behave so petty

    I have then realized this lot are not true supporters and will probably fvck off(at least I hope so)the moment Wenger leaves since its now apparent they have made the support of the club be about a manager(an employee)not sure they can help themselves to any Joy from Arsenal ATM,they’r strongly and hopelessly obssesed with the man,its bothering insanity,to them Wenger is Arsenal,very disgraceful and utterly blinkered idiots.

  46. Bamford10

    Daily Mail reporting that low attendance at the Emirates has the board and ownership concerned enough that they will be reviewing Wenger’s status this summer.

    Fingers crossed that we will be spared another season of dipshit.

  47. Bamford10

    Rumors that Pogba and Martial will both be sold this summer. If so, it will be interesting to see where each goes and at what valuation. Pogba’s stock has declineda bit, I think, Martial’s a little too, though his was so sky-high when he left Monaco that that might’ve been inevitable.

  48. Elmo

    United made LESS playing in the CL this season (EUR 38.9) than they did from the EL (EUR 44.5) last season!

    The primary reason being teams who enter the CL via winning the EL are not eligible for a share of their nation’s CL TV pool.

    Obviously, they have done better overall as they have such enormous commercial revenue, and a lot of those contracts will only pay out in full if the club are offering CL exposure.

    Will be interesting to see the EL numbers for us. I think you can only make reasonable money from it by both winning it and having the other clubs from your nation go out early.

    https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/986147493846110211?s=19

  49. Marko

    The divide in the fan-base presently is shockingly mind-boggling

    You’re an idiot.

    you need not look beyond legrove to witness first-hand how the WOB’s have further evolved into what now looks like a ‘cult’.

    Speaking of cults…you’re an idiot

    you’d be pilloried with all forms of insults when you make a balance argument in his favor,its really a shocking and equally embarrassing situation

    You’re so dumb. You’re more obsessed with terms like AKB and WOB than anyone else here. You’re a clown

  50. Barking Arsene

    “The primary reason being teams who enter the CL via winning the EL are not eligible for a share of their nation’s CL TV pool.”

    This is a really interesting point to note – the fact that we could gain entry to the CL via the back door doesn’t stack up financially – we are better off (from a financial perspective) competing in the Europa again next year and finishing top 4.

    Makes the “top four trophy” more important from a financial perspective.

    Maybe if Kroenke is all about money we should hope Wenger wins the Europa so Stan can sack him for losing him millions!
    (I feel like I have to put in a disclaimer that this is a light hearted comment).

  51. Carts

    Pogba on his way out, eh? I know Adidas pay Utd a truck load of money, and usually that’s where the buck stops. Howver, I don’t think they’ll be too happy to see him leave, so soon.

    As for Martial, his days are numbered. I also read Rashford has refused to sign a new deal, while disillusioned at the amount of time he’s spending on the bench.

    Mourinho really is a fun sponge.

  52. Dissenter

    I’ve got no love for Luis Enrique
    Messi, Suarez and Neymar made him look good. Those three would flatter any manager including Wenger
    He flunked out at Roma.

    No Enrique. The premier league will eat him alive.

    We have to start with a tactical that can make these current squad work. We aren’t a big money club.

    Rafa is the best bet.
    He knows the premier league very well.