I hate Bayern,always been a bunch of arrogant wankers as a club.
Real Madrid have their number in Europe and they still regard themselves as the best club in the world.
Having said that, RM winning a 3rd straight would be painful.
Ideal scenario is that winner of Roma-Pool deals with RM or Bayern in the Final, Roma in dreamland but Klopp getting revenge on Bayern I coud live with, even with the Scouse shitstorm it would bring afterwards.
HighburyLegend
6 years ago
lol Guns so true.
By the way, why didn’t you eat wenger instead of the puppy ??
I can’t stand the man and perhaps the exaggeration 🙂
How do you see Madrid Vs Munich game shape up?
Rambo Ramsey
6 years ago
Roma will play textbook Italian football and Fvck Liverpool over.
Get ready to see Juve vs Spurs replay.
Madrid will waltz to more CL glory. Yet Zidane is not spoken of in the same way Guardiola is. Why?
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Guns
Or maybe you could have the decency of commenting on Wengers managerial capability instead of personal slights?
Labelling people as mentally ill goes above football talk. You’re in no position to judge to that degree, that simple.
Elmo
6 years ago
It’s an interesting point re playing United away between the two Atletico games, and 8-2.
Does the manager’s unique situation put him in a position where he’s not in a position to do what’s best for the club?
Obviously the correct decision would be to fully rotate for the United game, not playing a single first XI player, and accept the inevitability of defeat. But Wenger can’t really afford the optics of taking another landmark humiliation and having his usual narrative of having turned around the league form to end the season undermined.
Guns of Hackney
6 years ago
CC
Okay. Wenger is a terrible manager who has robbed a living from Arsenal football club.
Absolute garbage.
Rambo Ramsey
6 years ago
Wenger obviously got mental problems. How can this be in doubt?
Man approaching 70 given up family and everything just to be in a job that he is no longer good at.
TR7 Haha yeah it hurts me too because I’m a huge Messi fan and it’s getting harder and harder to deny Ronaldo’s UCL greatness, a 3rd straight win and a 5th for him would put him in practically unchartered territory. Maldini had to play to the age of 39/40 to win five Champions Leagues. Re the match, having the 2nd leg at home is always an advantage and one that RM always seem to benefit from in the latter stages. Bayern have to beat them in Munich for me if they are to have a chance, also will have to… Read more »
‘If you honestly think Wenger is mentall capable, perhaps you need to revaluate your ideas of what constitutes: mental.’
IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE,obviously you are mentally unstable hence your strong accusations of Arsenal’s greatest manager ever suffering same fate Except he is revered in his profession globally while you just a ‘mere’ internet troll boring the shit out of us with inane balderdash,lol
Bamford10
6 years ago
Elmo
Good point. Wenger has almost no squad depth or quality to turn to for that United match. This despite spending plenty of money.
Carts
6 years ago
Bayern aren’t looking as fluid as they have in the past.
I think Real will deal with them; it’ll be a cagey affair, nonetheless.
Rambo Ramsey
6 years ago
WE,
No team had ever successfully defended a CL title. And Zidane looks set to do a hat trick.
He’s been in first team management since Jan 2016. So in two full seasons and one half season, he’ll have won 1 LA Liga title, 3 CL trophies and a plethora of cup competitions.
His team have also smashed plenty of records-consecutive wins, consecutive matches without a loss etc
Guns of Hackney
6 years ago
Victorious
…but it was you that resorted to personal insults.
Wenger is an employee who clearly is unfit for purpose. I’m not the only one who has said it.
Former pros have alluded to the same thing.
The glazed look. The bunker mentality. Blaming everyone for his failings. Ranting at the refs. Blaming hair pills for defeats. The economy. Brexit. You name it.
If that isn’t mentally unfit, what is?
Leftsidesanch
6 years ago
Mental illness may be a bit strong but there is something amiss up there in Wenger’s mind. He hasn’t been competent in years, is blind to his teams faults/and his own and can’t/won’t do anything about it or be advised by anybody on how to improve the situation.
He’s also shockingly oblivious or dishonest as he has every excuse as to why more fans are staying away apart from the obvious one..they want a change of manager, better players and change of regime at Arsenal. Me, I could live with a change of manager to start with.
RR Just playing DA, I’m an admirer of ZZ’s work, think that he’s done a great job at RM bringing a stability and balance to the club that I have never previously seen. Last two transfers seasons they haven’t even bought a marquee player. Pep’s Barcelona revolutionised the way the game is played though, before that most teams played a flat 4-4-2 with a couple of centre forwards including one of your Raul, RNV, Inzaghi types. As crazy as it sounds, Raul wouldn’t have started for any of RM’s last 3 UCL winning sides and he’s the most accomplished CF… Read more »
Bamford10
6 years ago
Wenger is 68 years old and has said and done any number of things over the years that make it completely fair to say that he is not all there mentally. Gambon has been saying this kind of thing for years here, as have many, many others. No way a couple of Untold types (Champagne, Victorious) come to Le Grove and tell people that they have to “respect Wenger”. Please fuck off with that.
WE Bayern’s CL campaign has been underwhelming so far. They lost to PSG in group stages, beat 10 men Besiktas and didn’t really blow away Sevilla. But we have seen slow starters raise their game up in final stages of a tournament. And despite the scintillating form of Liverpool and resilience of Roma, if there is one team which can beat Madrid over two legs it’s Bayern. They need to win the first leg at home and if they do that, they have the capability to keep a clean sheet in Bernabeu. Neuer will have to aptly deal with aerial… Read more »
steve
6 years ago
Wenger is definitely mentally ill. He’s probably heavily medicated like Gambon said.
Guns of Hackney
6 years ago
It’s amazing that political correctness has limited the ability to suggest someone isn’t mentally capable. No wonder the Russians are winning. Sheesh.
I’ll rephrase. Wenger is crackers, bonkers, gonzoed, loony…for fuck sake, the man actually likes Jeremy fucking Corbyn.
Carts
6 years ago
re; Zidane
what he’s accomplished at Real has been impressive especially when you consider his career, to date. I mean he’s like 6 year older than Buffon, ffs.
I always ask myself whether the like of Zidane and Pep could replaicate their success with less…naturally talented players. Money is important, but so is the ability to coach and implement tactics and strategies.
Leftsidesanch
6 years ago
The players are the real nutters, I mean as much as I loathe Wenger I can understand him doing or saying whatever it takes to secure his job. Ironically that is doing everything other than being a competent team who are taken seriously.
He did some good work with Barcelona B’s but was only for a season.
Kind of like the argument against greats such as Messi and Ronaldo, how would they do on average teams. We’ll never know because there is no incentive for them to weaken their chances at success by joining a lower side, same for Pep.
Closest we’ll get is if he decides to delve into international management at some point.
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Banford
You all a lot about Untold, I’ve never even been on it. Hadn’t heard of it before here. So, as ever, your assertions are devoid of any knowledge.
Nobody stated respect Wenger, I said making comments about his mental health is fucking low and things should remain about football considering no fan is privy to all information.
Of course you spin it, because that’s what cunts do.
That’s it, blame PC culture for it not being ok to call someone mentally ill.
Corbyn now? Ahh are you a right winger?
Guns of Hackney
6 years ago
Anyone who questions Wenger will bring out his supporters.
Seriously…you support Wenger more than your club.
Forget Wenger. The fans are the real lunatics.
Bamford10
6 years ago
Harry Kane is apparently feeling “hurt” because people have given him a hard time on Twitter for appealing to the FA to have that goal awarded to him. The appeal itself was a bit wanker-ish, but feeling “hurt” over the Twitter commentary about it might be even worse.
Guns of Hackney
6 years ago
CC
Corbyn is a parasite. His party are anti Semitic. He is anti Semitic. He is a communist.
My political leanings are definitely not left.
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
“Lacazette was completely useless last night and is now telling reporters that the team wants to win the Europa in order to keep Wenger at the helm. Thus I am not a fan of his this morning. “
How old are you, Bamford? There are words, but i will stick with childish as it fittingly describes your mini-rant.
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Your Comment Here
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
“Corbyn is a parasite. His party are anti Semitic. He is anti Semitic. He is a communist.“
Ok………… :/
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Frankie
Sums him up, desperate to be an authority on here but changes his view of players due to their comments about Wenger. Special breed of moron that, not an ounce of credibility.
Premier League clubs reject introduction of VAR for the competition next season in favour of further ‘testing’ in FA Cup & EFL Cup. They acknowledge ‘communication’ problems.
Pretty desperate move by Kane to go through the dubious goals panel, I didn’t see the touch personally.
Makes me want Salah to win the GB all the more now.
S Asoa
6 years ago
“I hate that they have literally signed away their own legacy to placate the personal ravings of a sad old man with obvious signs of mental illness.“
That’s perspicacity
not a contagion of imbecility
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
Very succinct, CC!
Bamford10
6 years ago
Charlie People have been suggesting that Wenger might be mentally ill for years here. If you don’t like it, go somewhere else. As for Untold, whether you’ve ever been there or not, you’re that type of supporter. You were once (not long ago, in fact) a great admirer of Wenger’s and you don’t like people disrespecting him. Indeed you have often defended him and his legacy here when anyone has questioned or criticized it. Like the other day when Paulinho suggested that Wenger’s early success was the result of a “confluence of factors” rather than Wenger’s managerial prowess. You found… Read more »
Bamford10
6 years ago
Now look who is turning to empty and puerile insults.
S Asoa
6 years ago
Guns of Hackney
There might be one prick Wenger , but there are two golf balls ejaculating in his favour and without logic today.
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
CC – There is a desperation in the agenda, wanting to be in control, demanding respect, wanting to be loved, considers himself correct at all times. All traits that aptly describes Little Man Syndrome. Reality tells a starkly opposite outcome, one that paints a factual truth that contradicts.
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Banford
Let’s not open up a can of worms on here, I’m not the person you want to start a war of words with beyond the current status quo.
I’m ignoring that drivel and saying one thing: you’re not an authority, nor do you dictate whether a poster should be here or not. Wind your neck right the way in and stop talking up to a crowd that largely believe you to be a great irritation.
Bamford10
6 years ago
Frankie
I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek there about Lacazette; I thought that was somewhat obvious.
Lacazette WAS a complete zero last night, though, and I am one of his skeptics here and have been for some time.
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
You been told today, Bamford?
Carts
6 years ago
WE
But here’s the thing, I’ve seen enough of Messi and Ronaldo to know that they’d stand out even more playing for a lesser teams. Their outputs are so outragoeus that the overwhelming majority of us would conclude that their team mates are in fact utter trash.
What I will say is this: it’s evident that Pep and Zidane clearly have a significant influence on their players and their style of play. Same goes for Allegri and a couple others.
But I wonder what they’d be able to do with players like Mustafi, Wilshere, Ramsey and Iwobi.
Leedsgunner
6 years ago
Wenger is not mentally ill… that would give him an excuse for this continual regression we have suffered under him (especially regarding the EPL).
He just thinks he is blameless and finds an excuse to explain away his failures… every time anywhere.
If they had a Balon d’Or for narcissism Wenger would be an annual contender with Mourinho (like how Ronaldo and Messi fight it out for the real thing every year.)
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
And the reality is that under a different manager many of Arsenal’s stiffs would actually be useful contributing footballers to a greater success. I like Lacazette and thats all that matters to me.
Bamford10
6 years ago
Charlie is back to telling other posters to “wind their necks in”. And here I thought those days were gone. As I said, this guy is the worst.
Carts That’s one way to look at it, another way is that their team mates pander to them, the likes of Benzema, Bale, Neymar and Suarez were all the alpha and the main man for their previous sides and tailored their game to indulging Messi and Ronaldo. Well not too much I imagine, haha. Not very good players. You will struggle to find a manager that can be successful with a poor group of players, it’s why Fergie was so heralded and even he benefitted in 2012/13 from adding the best player in the league in RVP to an already… Read more »
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
“You found this outrageous and fomented about how his comment — bog standard for Le Grove — was one of the worst remarks ever made here.”
No, i would say that your comments regarding Neymar pretty much has that award locked down for a lifetime.
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Banford
I’m telling you to do that, no other. But you continue to play to a crowd and address them about me, nobody cares.
You have an issue because you’re inferior, nothing more. 🙂
Bamford as usual reveling in picking up fight on here and trying to assert his authority. Such a bore!
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
So Arsenal draw Atletico in the semis – oh my.
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
CC may be many things to many people, entertaining for certain. The same however cannot be said for you, Bamford. You remain unopposed as an over-officious jerk that steadily continues to make enemies with each passing day. Not quite the God-like messiah you pictured for yourself, is it?
Carts
6 years ago
WE
With Zidane rumoured to be out of a job come summer ’18, I’d be pervious to him taking the hot seat at Arsenal. It’s imperatiive that Wenger is relived of his duties – whether or not we win the EL.
We need to keep our heads and not to concede soft soft goals.
If we can win at the Emirates and keep a clean sheet — it’s all to play for.
Everyone at Arsenal has to bring their “A” game for both games.
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
I am reading that there will be no VAR next season in the Premier League. One thing is for certain, referees in the EPL need help – they have been next to abysmal this season.
Frankie Coffeecakes
6 years ago
Correct Leeds, a clean sheet is paramount to a trip to the final. Arsenal really need to focus on their defending, its beyond calamitous.
Samesong
6 years ago
I am reading that there will be no VAR next season in the Premier League.
Don’t worry I’m sure a certain poster will talk about it once they have finished obsessing over a certain player.
Binford
You never learn do you?I myself questioned your ‘sanity’ when you had the #NeymarGate# meltdown,thought you’d take a step back and re-evaluate your knowledge of the game., How wrong was I,now you’ve got the nerves to question the mental state of Wenger…how ironic when yourself are a parody of the man
by all means be a strong critic of Wenger’s managerial style,have a go at his flaws,blablabala but to resort to personal slights makes you lot pathetic and juvenile.
Leedsgunner
6 years ago
No matter what happens in Europa we need to completely overhaul or defence next season including the GK.
Bamford10
6 years ago
Victorious
I have already explained that many, many people here have long been saying that Wenger is not all there mentally. For you or Charlie or any other “respect Wenger” type to come here and tell others not to insult Wenger is absurd.
Carts
6 years ago
Why not have goal line officasl to circumvent the lack of VAR till that supernintendo of a system is ready.
Just occured to me that a very simple rebuttal would be “well, the CL has goal line officials and there usless as fuck”.
Fucked if I know.
Frank Mc
6 years ago
“As I said, this guy is the worst.”
No you are..
Guns of Hackney
6 years ago
I’m not sure what Wenger has done to earn ‘respect’. He does a job and is paid very well for it. Win lose or draw he gets paid. Underperform for a decade…no problem, have another £2m extra on top of your salary.
Like most dictators, he’ll take credit for wins but deflects blame for the losses onto everyone else.
Wenger is awful. Sad old man with nothing except arsenal. Boo fucking hoo.
Wenger does not deserve respect. He never earned it.
3 league’s in 22 years? Pathetic.
0 European success. Pathetic.
25 fa cups. So what.
Wallace
6 years ago
I fancy Bayern this year, them or Liverpool. and looking forward to the Atletico game.
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Guns So in 2004 Wenger hadn’t earned respect for his near decade with the club to that point? It’s comments like that where you show yourself up imo. Nothing wrong with criticising how things are now, or have been in recent seasons, but to dismiss the obvious good displays a lack of balance. You can appreciate and respect the job he did to a point, and then criticise the remainder. Doesn’t make you any cooler to try and rewrite history with Wemger as some villain from the start. Same with Paulinho stating 96-04 was a series of fortunate events instead… Read more »
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Wallace
I’d hate to see Liverpool win it, praying for them to get knocked out tbh.
How confident are you with Atletico? I reckon it’s about 60-40 them.
Carts
6 years ago
In all honesty, wouldn’t mind Liverpool winning it. Fuck it, why not. Cue Wenger’s response when asked to comment on Liverpool being crowned European champions: Reporter: “Arsene, thoughts on Liverpool’s success..” Wenger : “Well, errrr, they didn’t win the Premier league so they are not the best. Manchester City is the best, no?” Reporter: “Liverpool comfortably beat City across two legs, though. So technically they are?” Wenger: “When Leicester won the league we beat them twice. We did our job. The other teams didn’t do their job. We technically won the premier league. You people forget this. Respect me, please”.… Read more »
The problem with this team is its imbalance. It reared it’s head again in Moscow. Also certain players need to be dropped, Jack being one. Must say Elneny impressed as did Wellbeck too. The issue starts with our midfield. Ozil is a 10, not a winger. Ramsey is a 10 as well, but a different type of 10. We loose something by not having proper wingers in the team. Jack, Ramsey, Ozil all play a similar role. We use Bellerin and Nancho for width. No successful team does that. You create gaps to be exploited. We need structural adjustments. Sell… Read more »
Bob N16
6 years ago
Off to Madrid! Got a good mate to stay with so selfishly happy with the draw.
CC – I reckon 70-30 in favour of Atletico. Hope we don’t get embarrassed but they’ll be an obvious silver lining if Wenger doesn’t manage CL qualification.
Bob N16
6 years ago
Confident…good analysis. Always thought Wenger stockpiles No 10s and shoehorns them in.
Guns of Hackney
6 years ago
CC
The players won it for Wenger.
At no point in Wenger’s tenure has he ever been labelled a ‘tactical’ master.
What we are seeing now is the result of having shit players and a shit manager. In the past, he had good players. You know the rest.
A better manager would have won a lot more with that golden set of players. If Ferguson had that team…forget about it.
Sorry, Wenger is and always was, a fraud.
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Guns
Hahaha ok mate. You forgot he’s a communist too, and French.
Carts
6 years ago
“Confident…good analysis. Always thought Wenger stockpiles No 10s and shoehorns them in.”
Exactly. As Wenger figures that with all that creativity on the pitch, surely, just surely we’ll be able to find the goal necessary to win.
Wallace
6 years ago
CC
“How confident are you with Atletico? I reckon it’s about 60-40 them.”
yeah, I’d go along with that. if we turn up over both legs I think we can take them.
Guns of Hackney
6 years ago
CC
He’s a champagne socialist.
Wallace
6 years ago
Confidentgoner
“The issue starts with our midfield. Ozil is a 10, not a winger. Ramsey is a 10 as well, but a different type of 10. We loose something by not having proper wingers in the team.”
I think Ozil’s found his niche now starting wide in a 3 man attack. I’d play Ramsey the most advanced of a midfield 3. would prefer a proper wide man on the other side to Ozil, but happy for Mkhi to play there meantime. I have been impressed with his running since joining. more powerful than I’d previously thought.
Wallace
6 years ago
BobN16
“Always thought Wenger stockpiles No 10s and shoehorns them in.”
yeah, would like him to take a leaf out of Guardiola’s book and get himself a proper winger or two.
Bamford10
6 years ago
Wallace
Agreed. Ozil is good as a “wide player” with a free role. And we are better with three genuine CMs in midfield, although Wilshere has to go.
Wallace
6 years ago
Bamford
yeah, I don’t see Wilshere still being an Arsenal player next season. up to Reiss & AM-N now.
Champagne charlie
6 years ago
Guns
You a brexiteer?
HillWood
6 years ago
This may sound a bit weird but I actually want Arsenal to win every competition they’re in
But as always
Wenger Out
CC
I am the true incarnation of evil. Satan is my copilot.
Only yesterday, I ate a live puppy while wiping my feet on a newborn lamb.
If you honestly think Wenger is mentall capable, perhaps you need to revaluate your ideas of what constitutes: mental.
Last season, Manu also fielded a weak team against us. We’ll return the favor. No big deal.
I hate Bayern,always been a bunch of arrogant wankers as a club.
Real Madrid have their number in Europe and they still regard themselves as the best club in the world.
Having said that, RM winning a 3rd straight would be painful.
Ideal scenario is that winner of Roma-Pool deals with RM or Bayern in the Final, Roma in dreamland but Klopp getting revenge on Bayern I coud live with, even with the Scouse shitstorm it would bring afterwards.
lol Guns so true.
By the way, why didn’t you eat wenger instead of the puppy ??
WE
I can’t stand the man and perhaps the exaggeration 🙂
How do you see Madrid Vs Munich game shape up?
Roma will play textbook Italian football and Fvck Liverpool over.
Get ready to see Juve vs Spurs replay.
Madrid will waltz to more CL glory. Yet Zidane is not spoken of in the same way Guardiola is. Why?
Guns
Or maybe you could have the decency of commenting on Wengers managerial capability instead of personal slights?
Labelling people as mentally ill goes above football talk. You’re in no position to judge to that degree, that simple.
It’s an interesting point re playing United away between the two Atletico games, and 8-2.
Does the manager’s unique situation put him in a position where he’s not in a position to do what’s best for the club?
Obviously the correct decision would be to fully rotate for the United game, not playing a single first XI player, and accept the inevitability of defeat. But Wenger can’t really afford the optics of taking another landmark humiliation and having his usual narrative of having turned around the league form to end the season undermined.
CC
Okay. Wenger is a terrible manager who has robbed a living from Arsenal football club.
Absolute garbage.
Wenger obviously got mental problems. How can this be in doubt?
Man approaching 70 given up family and everything just to be in a job that he is no longer good at.
TR7 Haha yeah it hurts me too because I’m a huge Messi fan and it’s getting harder and harder to deny Ronaldo’s UCL greatness, a 3rd straight win and a 5th for him would put him in practically unchartered territory. Maldini had to play to the age of 39/40 to win five Champions Leagues. Re the match, having the 2nd leg at home is always an advantage and one that RM always seem to benefit from in the latter stages. Bayern have to beat them in Munich for me if they are to have a chance, also will have to… Read more »
‘Yet Zidane is not spoken of in the same way Guardiola is. Why?’
Lack of domestic success would be my guess.
Hard to call a team the best when they’ve been 2nd/3rd best in their own league over the course of a long season.
Zidane himself has been quoted this week as saying that he’d rather win a league title than another UCL.
Cunt of Hackney
‘If you honestly think Wenger is mentall capable, perhaps you need to revaluate your ideas of what constitutes: mental.’
IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE,obviously you are mentally unstable hence your strong accusations of Arsenal’s greatest manager ever suffering same fate Except he is revered in his profession globally while you just a ‘mere’ internet troll boring the shit out of us with inane balderdash,lol
Elmo
Good point. Wenger has almost no squad depth or quality to turn to for that United match. This despite spending plenty of money.
Bayern aren’t looking as fluid as they have in the past.
I think Real will deal with them; it’ll be a cagey affair, nonetheless.
WE,
No team had ever successfully defended a CL title. And Zidane looks set to do a hat trick.
He’s been in first team management since Jan 2016. So in two full seasons and one half season, he’ll have won 1 LA Liga title, 3 CL trophies and a plethora of cup competitions.
His team have also smashed plenty of records-consecutive wins, consecutive matches without a loss etc
Victorious
…but it was you that resorted to personal insults.
Wenger is an employee who clearly is unfit for purpose. I’m not the only one who has said it.
Former pros have alluded to the same thing.
The glazed look. The bunker mentality. Blaming everyone for his failings. Ranting at the refs. Blaming hair pills for defeats. The economy. Brexit. You name it.
If that isn’t mentally unfit, what is?
Mental illness may be a bit strong but there is something amiss up there in Wenger’s mind. He hasn’t been competent in years, is blind to his teams faults/and his own and can’t/won’t do anything about it or be advised by anybody on how to improve the situation.
He’s also shockingly oblivious or dishonest as he has every excuse as to why more fans are staying away apart from the obvious one..they want a change of manager, better players and change of regime at Arsenal. Me, I could live with a change of manager to start with.
RR Just playing DA, I’m an admirer of ZZ’s work, think that he’s done a great job at RM bringing a stability and balance to the club that I have never previously seen. Last two transfers seasons they haven’t even bought a marquee player. Pep’s Barcelona revolutionised the way the game is played though, before that most teams played a flat 4-4-2 with a couple of centre forwards including one of your Raul, RNV, Inzaghi types. As crazy as it sounds, Raul wouldn’t have started for any of RM’s last 3 UCL winning sides and he’s the most accomplished CF… Read more »
Wenger is 68 years old and has said and done any number of things over the years that make it completely fair to say that he is not all there mentally. Gambon has been saying this kind of thing for years here, as have many, many others. No way a couple of Untold types (Champagne, Victorious) come to Le Grove and tell people that they have to “respect Wenger”. Please fuck off with that.
WE Bayern’s CL campaign has been underwhelming so far. They lost to PSG in group stages, beat 10 men Besiktas and didn’t really blow away Sevilla. But we have seen slow starters raise their game up in final stages of a tournament. And despite the scintillating form of Liverpool and resilience of Roma, if there is one team which can beat Madrid over two legs it’s Bayern. They need to win the first leg at home and if they do that, they have the capability to keep a clean sheet in Bernabeu. Neuer will have to aptly deal with aerial… Read more »
Wenger is definitely mentally ill. He’s probably heavily medicated like Gambon said.
It’s amazing that political correctness has limited the ability to suggest someone isn’t mentally capable. No wonder the Russians are winning. Sheesh.
I’ll rephrase. Wenger is crackers, bonkers, gonzoed, loony…for fuck sake, the man actually likes Jeremy fucking Corbyn.
re; Zidane
what he’s accomplished at Real has been impressive especially when you consider his career, to date. I mean he’s like 6 year older than Buffon, ffs.
I always ask myself whether the like of Zidane and Pep could replaicate their success with less…naturally talented players. Money is important, but so is the ability to coach and implement tactics and strategies.
The players are the real nutters, I mean as much as I loathe Wenger I can understand him doing or saying whatever it takes to secure his job. Ironically that is doing everything other than being a competent team who are taken seriously.
The players now – they’re a different kettle of fish. You could argue that Wenger has slightly mistreated him yet he comes out with this nonsense. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11328617/arsenal-winning-the-europa-league-can-save-arsene-wengers-job-says-alexandre-lacazette
Carts
Re Pep, we’ll likely never know.
He did some good work with Barcelona B’s but was only for a season.
Kind of like the argument against greats such as Messi and Ronaldo, how would they do on average teams. We’ll never know because there is no incentive for them to weaken their chances at success by joining a lower side, same for Pep.
Closest we’ll get is if he decides to delve into international management at some point.
Banford
You all a lot about Untold, I’ve never even been on it. Hadn’t heard of it before here. So, as ever, your assertions are devoid of any knowledge.
Nobody stated respect Wenger, I said making comments about his mental health is fucking low and things should remain about football considering no fan is privy to all information.
Of course you spin it, because that’s what cunts do.
We face athletico
Guns
That’s it, blame PC culture for it not being ok to call someone mentally ill.
Corbyn now? Ahh are you a right winger?
Anyone who questions Wenger will bring out his supporters.
Seriously…you support Wenger more than your club.
Forget Wenger. The fans are the real lunatics.
Harry Kane is apparently feeling “hurt” because people have given him a hard time on Twitter for appealing to the FA to have that goal awarded to him. The appeal itself was a bit wanker-ish, but feeling “hurt” over the Twitter commentary about it might be even worse.
CC
Corbyn is a parasite. His party are anti Semitic. He is anti Semitic. He is a communist.
My political leanings are definitely not left.
“Lacazette was completely useless last night and is now telling reporters that the team wants to win the Europa in order to keep Wenger at the helm. Thus I am not a fan of his this morning. “
How old are you, Bamford? There are words, but i will stick with childish as it fittingly describes your mini-rant.
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“Corbyn is a parasite. His party are anti Semitic. He is anti Semitic. He is a communist.“
Ok………… :/
Frankie
Sums him up, desperate to be an authority on here but changes his view of players due to their comments about Wenger. Special breed of moron that, not an ounce of credibility.
Premier League clubs reject introduction of VAR for the competition next season in favour of further ‘testing’ in FA Cup & EFL Cup. They acknowledge ‘communication’ problems.
Pretty desperate move by Kane to go through the dubious goals panel, I didn’t see the touch personally.
Makes me want Salah to win the GB all the more now.
“I hate that they have literally signed away their own legacy to placate the personal ravings of a sad old man with obvious signs of mental illness.“
That’s perspicacity
not a contagion of imbecility
Very succinct, CC!
Charlie People have been suggesting that Wenger might be mentally ill for years here. If you don’t like it, go somewhere else. As for Untold, whether you’ve ever been there or not, you’re that type of supporter. You were once (not long ago, in fact) a great admirer of Wenger’s and you don’t like people disrespecting him. Indeed you have often defended him and his legacy here when anyone has questioned or criticized it. Like the other day when Paulinho suggested that Wenger’s early success was the result of a “confluence of factors” rather than Wenger’s managerial prowess. You found… Read more »
Now look who is turning to empty and puerile insults.
Guns of Hackney
There might be one prick Wenger , but there are two golf balls ejaculating in his favour and without logic today.
CC – There is a desperation in the agenda, wanting to be in control, demanding respect, wanting to be loved, considers himself correct at all times. All traits that aptly describes Little Man Syndrome. Reality tells a starkly opposite outcome, one that paints a factual truth that contradicts.
Banford
Let’s not open up a can of worms on here, I’m not the person you want to start a war of words with beyond the current status quo.
I’m ignoring that drivel and saying one thing: you’re not an authority, nor do you dictate whether a poster should be here or not. Wind your neck right the way in and stop talking up to a crowd that largely believe you to be a great irritation.
Frankie
I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek there about Lacazette; I thought that was somewhat obvious.
Lacazette WAS a complete zero last night, though, and I am one of his skeptics here and have been for some time.
You been told today, Bamford?
WE
But here’s the thing, I’ve seen enough of Messi and Ronaldo to know that they’d stand out even more playing for a lesser teams. Their outputs are so outragoeus that the overwhelming majority of us would conclude that their team mates are in fact utter trash.
What I will say is this: it’s evident that Pep and Zidane clearly have a significant influence on their players and their style of play. Same goes for Allegri and a couple others.
But I wonder what they’d be able to do with players like Mustafi, Wilshere, Ramsey and Iwobi.
Wenger is not mentally ill… that would give him an excuse for this continual regression we have suffered under him (especially regarding the EPL).
He just thinks he is blameless and finds an excuse to explain away his failures… every time anywhere.
If they had a Balon d’Or for narcissism Wenger would be an annual contender with Mourinho (like how Ronaldo and Messi fight it out for the real thing every year.)
And the reality is that under a different manager many of Arsenal’s stiffs would actually be useful contributing footballers to a greater success. I like Lacazette and thats all that matters to me.
Charlie is back to telling other posters to “wind their necks in”. And here I thought those days were gone. As I said, this guy is the worst.
Carts That’s one way to look at it, another way is that their team mates pander to them, the likes of Benzema, Bale, Neymar and Suarez were all the alpha and the main man for their previous sides and tailored their game to indulging Messi and Ronaldo. Well not too much I imagine, haha. Not very good players. You will struggle to find a manager that can be successful with a poor group of players, it’s why Fergie was so heralded and even he benefitted in 2012/13 from adding the best player in the league in RVP to an already… Read more »
“You found this outrageous and fomented about how his comment — bog standard for Le Grove — was one of the worst remarks ever made here.”
No, i would say that your comments regarding Neymar pretty much has that award locked down for a lifetime.
Banford
I’m telling you to do that, no other. But you continue to play to a crowd and address them about me, nobody cares.
You have an issue because you’re inferior, nothing more. 🙂
OK, Charlie.
Bamford as usual reveling in picking up fight on here and trying to assert his authority. Such a bore!
So Arsenal draw Atletico in the semis – oh my.
CC may be many things to many people, entertaining for certain. The same however cannot be said for you, Bamford. You remain unopposed as an over-officious jerk that steadily continues to make enemies with each passing day. Not quite the God-like messiah you pictured for yourself, is it?
WE
With Zidane rumoured to be out of a job come summer ’18, I’d be pervious to him taking the hot seat at Arsenal. It’s imperatiive that Wenger is relived of his duties – whether or not we win the EL.
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We need to keep our heads and not to concede soft soft goals.
If we can win at the Emirates and keep a clean sheet — it’s all to play for.
Everyone at Arsenal has to bring their “A” game for both games.
I am reading that there will be no VAR next season in the Premier League. One thing is for certain, referees in the EPL need help – they have been next to abysmal this season.
Correct Leeds, a clean sheet is paramount to a trip to the final. Arsenal really need to focus on their defending, its beyond calamitous.
I am reading that there will be no VAR next season in the Premier League.
Don’t worry I’m sure a certain poster will talk about it once they have finished obsessing over a certain player.
Binford
You never learn do you?I myself questioned your ‘sanity’ when you had the #NeymarGate# meltdown,thought you’d take a step back and re-evaluate your knowledge of the game., How wrong was I,now you’ve got the nerves to question the mental state of Wenger…how ironic when yourself are a parody of the man
by all means be a strong critic of Wenger’s managerial style,have a go at his flaws,blablabala but to resort to personal slights makes you lot pathetic and juvenile.
No matter what happens in Europa we need to completely overhaul or defence next season including the GK.
Victorious
I have already explained that many, many people here have long been saying that Wenger is not all there mentally. For you or Charlie or any other “respect Wenger” type to come here and tell others not to insult Wenger is absurd.
Why not have goal line officasl to circumvent the lack of VAR till that supernintendo of a system is ready.
Just occured to me that a very simple rebuttal would be “well, the CL has goal line officials and there usless as fuck”.
Fucked if I know.
“As I said, this guy is the worst.”
No you are..
I’m not sure what Wenger has done to earn ‘respect’. He does a job and is paid very well for it. Win lose or draw he gets paid. Underperform for a decade…no problem, have another £2m extra on top of your salary.
Like most dictators, he’ll take credit for wins but deflects blame for the losses onto everyone else.
Wenger is awful. Sad old man with nothing except arsenal. Boo fucking hoo.
Wenger does not deserve respect. He never earned it.
3 league’s in 22 years? Pathetic.
0 European success. Pathetic.
25 fa cups. So what.
I fancy Bayern this year, them or Liverpool. and looking forward to the Atletico game.
Guns So in 2004 Wenger hadn’t earned respect for his near decade with the club to that point? It’s comments like that where you show yourself up imo. Nothing wrong with criticising how things are now, or have been in recent seasons, but to dismiss the obvious good displays a lack of balance. You can appreciate and respect the job he did to a point, and then criticise the remainder. Doesn’t make you any cooler to try and rewrite history with Wemger as some villain from the start. Same with Paulinho stating 96-04 was a series of fortunate events instead… Read more »
Wallace
I’d hate to see Liverpool win it, praying for them to get knocked out tbh.
How confident are you with Atletico? I reckon it’s about 60-40 them.
In all honesty, wouldn’t mind Liverpool winning it. Fuck it, why not. Cue Wenger’s response when asked to comment on Liverpool being crowned European champions: Reporter: “Arsene, thoughts on Liverpool’s success..” Wenger : “Well, errrr, they didn’t win the Premier league so they are not the best. Manchester City is the best, no?” Reporter: “Liverpool comfortably beat City across two legs, though. So technically they are?” Wenger: “When Leicester won the league we beat them twice. We did our job. The other teams didn’t do their job. We technically won the premier league. You people forget this. Respect me, please”.… Read more »
The problem with this team is its imbalance. It reared it’s head again in Moscow. Also certain players need to be dropped, Jack being one. Must say Elneny impressed as did Wellbeck too. The issue starts with our midfield. Ozil is a 10, not a winger. Ramsey is a 10 as well, but a different type of 10. We loose something by not having proper wingers in the team. Jack, Ramsey, Ozil all play a similar role. We use Bellerin and Nancho for width. No successful team does that. You create gaps to be exploited. We need structural adjustments. Sell… Read more »
Off to Madrid! Got a good mate to stay with so selfishly happy with the draw.
CC – I reckon 70-30 in favour of Atletico. Hope we don’t get embarrassed but they’ll be an obvious silver lining if Wenger doesn’t manage CL qualification.
Confident…good analysis. Always thought Wenger stockpiles No 10s and shoehorns them in.
CC
The players won it for Wenger.
At no point in Wenger’s tenure has he ever been labelled a ‘tactical’ master.
What we are seeing now is the result of having shit players and a shit manager. In the past, he had good players. You know the rest.
A better manager would have won a lot more with that golden set of players. If Ferguson had that team…forget about it.
Sorry, Wenger is and always was, a fraud.
Guns
Hahaha ok mate. You forgot he’s a communist too, and French.
“Confident…good analysis. Always thought Wenger stockpiles No 10s and shoehorns them in.”
Exactly. As Wenger figures that with all that creativity on the pitch, surely, just surely we’ll be able to find the goal necessary to win.
CC
“How confident are you with Atletico? I reckon it’s about 60-40 them.”
yeah, I’d go along with that. if we turn up over both legs I think we can take them.
CC
He’s a champagne socialist.
Confidentgoner
“The issue starts with our midfield. Ozil is a 10, not a winger. Ramsey is a 10 as well, but a different type of 10. We loose something by not having proper wingers in the team.”
I think Ozil’s found his niche now starting wide in a 3 man attack. I’d play Ramsey the most advanced of a midfield 3. would prefer a proper wide man on the other side to Ozil, but happy for Mkhi to play there meantime. I have been impressed with his running since joining. more powerful than I’d previously thought.
BobN16
“Always thought Wenger stockpiles No 10s and shoehorns them in.”
yeah, would like him to take a leaf out of Guardiola’s book and get himself a proper winger or two.
Wallace
Agreed. Ozil is good as a “wide player” with a free role. And we are better with three genuine CMs in midfield, although Wilshere has to go.
Bamford
yeah, I don’t see Wilshere still being an Arsenal player next season. up to Reiss & AM-N now.
Guns
You a brexiteer?
This may sound a bit weird but I actually want Arsenal to win every competition they’re in
But as always
Wenger Out
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