Arsene pushes player/fan apathy to new lows in entertaining sh*t show

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Everything good and bad about Danny W was on display yesterday as Arsenal bumbled their way past the worst Southampton side we’ve seen in 5 years. He missed an open goal so wide you could have squeezed Samir Nasri’s arse through it, he assisted with a delightful deft touch, and he banged in two goals, one with a scruffy deflection, the other with an opportunistic header at the back post.

It was Danny’s day, but it wasn’t one you’d look back on with a great deal of fondness. It was Arsenal at their most banterful. The ground was half empty, the players were preserving their legs on the off chance they could land a starting place in Russia this Thursday, and the output of the day was a touch bizarre.

We went one goal down early. Tadic and Cedric made mincemeat of Chambers and Kolasinac down the left, a speculative ball was fired at our front post with the curve moving away from the keeper, Mustafi just zoned out like he’d had a clean energy production epiphany, Shane Long nipped in and put it past Cech. A defensive error so very symptomatic of any Wenger side you could remember over the past fifteen years.

The German would likely be a machine under a proper manager who cared about defence, but he’s not with us. He’s clumsy, he’s a finger-wagger like Flamini, and he’s ever so average.

We clawed a goal back in a sumptuous move. Elneney found Auba from deep midfield, he laid off Iwobes who returned the pass, a quick one-two with WELBZ set the man from Gabon free to poke his shot inside the keepers post.

9 minutes later Danny W picked up a great ball from Iwobi, he cut inside right and rifled a deflected shot into the top corner from 20 yards. Has the man ever had a clean shot? Can we call this a strategy now? A great goal regardless.

Their second goal was a collection of very Arsenal fuck-ups. We weren’t alert to their quick freekick, we managed to get away with the first ball fizzed across our box, Jack Wilshere was pottering around and didn’t get close to Hojberg on the edge of the box. The Dane played a one-two with Tadic, crossed across a now packed box and found Charlie Austin for a near instant goal after he came on as a sub. Utterly embarrassing. I mean, I’m not even touching on Chambers shocking clearance, another player who looked off the pace all day. That £23m we rejected for him looking crazier by the day.

I thought we’d see out a point, but Danny Welbeck had other ideas, popping up to nod home a looping Iwobi cross in the 80th minute.

The game wasn’t finished from a drama perspective, Jack Wilshere had to make an impact the only way he knows how to these days. He had a tussle with Stephens just outside the Stoke box and didn’t like the outcome. He decided to track him down as he powered through the middle of the pitch, Jack ripped his shirt because he couldn’t keep pace with the centre back, and was instantly thrown to the floor in retaliation. Jack got up, protested, landed Stephens a red card, he managed to get away with a yellow. Then Elneney got involved in the mess and landed a red. A real joke of a situation that was completely unnecessary.

An entertaining afternoon, no doubt. But entertaining like a comical WWE bout. We shouldn’t be conceding 2 goals to relegation fodder under any circumstances, let alone at home. We shouldn’t be picking up late red cards in nothing matches. We shouldn’t be so flat. But we are. Arsenal is a weird old place at the moment.

Aubameayang is an interesting striker. He’s starting to settle into the rhythm of the first team, he’s offering up the runs our playmaker’s dream of, and he’s starting to connect better with the build-up play. His MO is goals, and pretty much just goals. I don’t think he wants to be involved in the play like a Thierry, Robin or Alexis would be. His end product outside of goals isn’t great, and I don’t expect we’ll be seeing much in the way of link-up play like a Giroud would offer. But, look, he scores goals. He’s now our most prolific striker over the first 7 games, beating out Davor Suker (Opta inventing stats to new levels). It would be a real shame not to give him a run with a proper manager, in a proper team. Next year is going to be him at his peak, we need to max out his value and that won’t be with Wenger.

Jack Wilshere was disappointing again. The apologists will say his head isn’t in the game at the moment as he’s thinking about his contract. Well, that never stopped Theo and it certainly isn’t stopping Ramsey pulling up trees (nor Ozil earlier in the season). I think it’s mostly because he doesn’t have the extra level we’d hoped would be there. He’s 26 now, and he’s no more interesting than he was when he was 18. At least when he was a kid, you felt he cared about the game, I look at him now and wonder if he’s just in it for the wages and the good life at home? He’s certainly not playing like he wants a new deal or a move to a better club. I’m not sure I’d be whacking £100k p/w on him based on what we’ve seen this year.

Arsene is clearly blowing all on zero at the roulette table. It’s the only way he saves this season. We’ll win on Thursday, and he’ll have a chance at a new deal because Stan and Josh don’t understand the context of failure. If he makes the final, he’ll have to avoid Atleti, who have so many levels to their game. I watched them respond to going 1 down at Madrid. They have many great players and a coach who can change the game from the touchline. We have no chance against them over two legs, and it’ll be a Chelsea like miracle over one game.

But we’ll see… this season is the Europa mission. A shame for the home fans, because the Premier League season is like watching paint dry. The apathy in the ground is met in the living rooms. Pray we don’t mess up Thursday.

See you in the comments, and watch our podcast where Matt and I discuss:

  • Aubameyeng: Hit or miss?
  • The case for our defence: Who stays or goes?
  • Iwobi: Hero in waiting, or another Nik B?
  • Jack Wilshere: What do you do with him?

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champagne charlie

“This is the real Wenger we are seeing. The mid-nineties to 2004 was a freak convergence of factors coming together.”

Arguably the most ridiculous comment I’ve ever read on here, which is quite the thing.

Attributing a decade of relative success to”factors coming together” is an amazing show of ignorance/dishonesty. It’s people with views like you that I find the hardest to stomach, you’re a small man if you can’t recognise the good someone has done and instead belittle them out of hatred. Says a good many things about you.

JAMES WOOD

SE COUNTIES-METROPOLITAIN -COMBINATION & FIRST TEAM.
I have supported every team.
I saw Kelsey play his last game.
I am Arsenal .
But my total enjoyment will never be as it was till he leaves.
Wenger has put this club back 10 years and destroyed the fan base.

I can only look forward.

JAMES WOOD

ARSENAL FAN TV TO CHANNEL 4 IN NEW LATE NIGHT SHOW.
Evening standard report.

Pierre

The sky commentator at the start of last weekends game couldn’t resist taking the piss out of the poor ,hard done by Arsenal supporters .

” it’s terrible isn’t it, being in the top 6 and being on the brink of a European semi final and winning 3 FA cups in 4 seasons , you have got to feel real sympathy for them haven’t you”

Pierre

James wood

Then it was Jim furnell…

And fans complain about cech.

Guns of Brixton

PSG , Juve want Oblak.

Shite

JAMES WOOD

Pierre .
Don’t start me off.:)
Although later Pat Jennings was the buy of the century from Spurs.

champagne charlie

Guns

Why shite?

Emiratesstroller

Pierre Cech is not Jim Furnell or even Almunia, but his performance level has declined dramatically this season. He has made a lot of errors and his reflexes and positional play is much worse than previously. Some goalkeepers are able to maintain form at 35. Sadly Cech appears not to be one. For me Goalkeeper is a priority, because none of the options are either good enough or have the experience to replace him. Arsenal are not going to spend mega bucks in transfer window. There will be a limit dependent also on sales. Goalkeeper and Centre Back should be… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Your Comment Here

Pierre

James wood You must have started supporting Arsenal probably around the same time as me ,during the George Eastham ,J. Baker era in the 60’s. Have you forgotten how average we were in those days , mid table , never competing for the league or FA cup until the early 70’s. Winning the fairs cup( which is equivalent to the Europa cup) at Highbury was considered a great achievement as was winning the FA cup …. Maybe history will say that this period (if we win the Europa cup) will be one of the most successful periods in the clubs… Read more »

Pierre

Stroller
“Goalkeeper and Centre Back should be the priority and dependent on how much budget is available beyond these two a new Central Midfielder.”

I would go along with that though I don’t think cech is quite so bad as you think.

He started the season quite well then had a dodgy period just after Christmas but lately he has upped his game plus it doesn’t help when you have the unpredictable mustafi in front of you .

JAMES WOOD

posts not going through.

Michael24

Day off today, so been able to fight my corner far more than I had intended. Have been accused of “slagging off” other posters on here, just by highlighting things that even a “nine year old” has more concept of. Emiratesstroller/ BobN16/Victorious/champagne charlie have all hit back at my own forthright opinions. Good for you. @CC “Wenger out, fuck Arsenal approach” …………..really?!?! Yes, I want Wenger out with a passion, that goes without saying. However, irrespective of this, my love and loyalty to Arsenal FC will never die. That’s in my blood. “Loyalty” is not all about going to games,… Read more »

HillWood

Micheal 24
You are incredibly boring

Bamford10

James Wood

It’s “you’re,” you illiterate.

champagne charlie

“Why should I congratulate those that support something and someone that is not only flawed, but doesn’t give a damn. You can abuse and ridicule me as much as you like, to be honest, I don’t care. Accepting the status quo is not showing loyalty” Nobody is asking for your congratulations, so thats an odd comment. Also, nobody is ridiculing you, it was pointed out that you chastised Emirates for “stating the obvious” yet proceeded in stating arguably THE most obvious of Arsenal topics for the millionth time. That is it. Finally, nobody is accepting of the status quo as… Read more »

James wood

Yes Bamford of course your right again.
As I said the other day slide back into your Cultureless void

Pierre

James wood
Don’t use the word j.o.e or your posts will not go through

Bamford10

James

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

James wood

Yes Pierre exactly around that time.
Armstrong -Skirton and two Irish International
full backs Mgill and Mculloch both useless.
Liverpool was the noisiest game Baker and the
Ron Yeats knockout come to mind.
Most frightening night Glasgow Rangers playing
Red Star Belgrade a confetti of beer bottles I was glad
to get home.
Most memorable as you mentioned The fairs cup final
great days.

James wood

Pierre how did you know I wrote J.O.E
Previously.
Amazing.

Bamford10

James?

champagne charlie

Talk to me, see me, hear me, listen to meee

Michael24

HillWood

That’s ok with me.

Michael24

Your Comment Here

englandsbest

People say: football is only a game , why get uptight? Well, I could argue that football – or rather, the team you support – is much more than just about a game, And iosing one is not the reason I get so angry. It’s because we supporters have been taken for a ride, and nobody enjoys being treated as a fool. A catalogue of contempt, broken promises, outright lies. Does anyone in the hierarchy give a damn? Not that you’d notice. They send Josh over, Well, hooray! As for Wenger, he plays his ‘hard-done-by’ act to perfection. His values,… Read more »

TonyD

englandsbest Totally agree with you. The last AGM portrays your post perfectly as does Ivan’s suck-up-to-Wenger comments. Football isn’t what it was in the post eras of the 50s,60s, 70s etc ; it’s also no longer cloth cap supporter driven, although it was those supporters of past who helped keep the club alive financially. To be honest the real soul and blood and guts of the game is lost now because of the corporate money invested and revenues expected. The game has lost its edge in many ways as it becomes more of a non contact sport. The whole approach… Read more »

TonyD

Speaking of money…… “Arsenal’s existing deal with Puma is worth £30m a season but adidas have indicated they are willing to invest significantly more. However, Puma, it is understood, have the option to match any offer made by a competitor while other sportswear firms have also shown an interest. Any deal north of £40m a year would represent a sizeable upgrade from the Gunners’ current deal. Also, the value of an agreement with adidas could increase further if the club regain their Champions League status by winning the Europa League this season. But despite the huge cash on offer, the… Read more »

Pierre

There is nothing in that article to say that the deal being discussed is for £40 million…its just a figure plucked out of the air .
If adidas are interested as well as other sportswear firms then the figure will be considerably higher.
I don’t see why we would expect less than Chelsea as Arsenal have a larger world wide fan base with a greater history and tradition .

Wallace

Liverpool fans talking about how their rock solid defence means they’ll see this one out no problem 🙂 were we this smug back when we were good?

think City will frighten the life out of them tonight if they get a goal in the first 20mins.

TonyD

“I don’t see why we would expect less than Chelsea as Arsenal have a larger world wide fan base with a greater history and tradition .” And you know this how, Pierre? You see Chelsea, Liverpool and United shirts all over Thailand being worn and sold but no Arsenal shirts. Ditto Malaysia and Singapore. I’ll be in Hong Kong Thursday, so I’ll check there for you. The Arsenal shop in Bangkok closed a couple of years ago. Next time you go abroad take some pictures of Arsenal shirts and post them. Just so you know the Isle of Wight, Jersey… Read more »

Frank Mc

I see Walter Mitty has been correcting people’s grammar….

Michael24

The Arsenal brand image is not what it was.

Fans of Football worldwide know where Arsenal stand in the pecking order.

Well done Arsene!

TonyD

Frank Mc
Generally teachers never leave school.

They go to school – college/university-back to school to teach.

Says it all really.

Pierre

I see tonyd now considers community shield, league cup, fa cup, Europa cup as major trophies.

“Chelsea 27 major trophies”

Arsenal 45 major trophies (6 in the last 4 years)

Pierre

Tonyd
“You see Chelsea, Liverpool and United shirts all over Thailand being worn and sold but no Arsenal shirts. Ditto Malaysia and Singapore. I’ll be in Hong Kong Thursday, so I’ll check there for you.”

Replicas….

Pierre

Tonyd
“Next time you go abroad take some pictures of Arsenal shirts and post them.”

What a cracking idea… Will go on holiday and waste my time looking for people with Arsenal shirts on…

Wallace

I’d back City to score at least 3 goals tonight 7, maybe 8 times out of 10. surprised at how confident the Liverpool fans seem about advancing fairly comfortably.

Victorious

TinyD talking outta his arse per usual,using just the Asia market to draw conclusion on how far down arsenal’s global image has fallen..aw!poor old clueless Tony… how about other continents?Arsenal’s jerseys and mechandize are mostly sort after in Africa and has the highest sales compared to other top clubs and this gem: In total, the club has won 27 major trophies; six titles, (3 in the last 8 years) Seven FA Cups, five League Cups four FA Community Shields, one UEFA Champions League, two UEFA Cup Winners’ Cups, one UEFA Europa League one UEFA Super Cup. go back and also… Read more »

Victorious

“Arsenal 45 major trophies (6 in the last 4 years)”

Yop,Tony’s homework done and dusted,just take a look at that number,damn

Victorious

I’d back City to score at least 3 goals tonight 7, maybe 8 times out of 10. surprised at how confident the Liverpool fans seem about advancing fairly comfortably.

You think dippers won’t pull at least a goal or two back?they are as much an attacking threat and would take a MASSIVE bottle job that dwarfs anything spuds has ever pulled for the dippers not to progress,imo

Pierre

I’ve just read that Chelsea had to pay Adidas £40 million compensation to break their contract to secure the Nike deal.

TonyD

Victoria
Think you need to change your panty pad.

By the way how many league titles and UCL titles have we won in the last 10 years.

Deluded AKB at best.

Wallace

Victorious

“You think dippers won’t pull at least a goal or two back?they are as much an attacking threat and would take a MASSIVE bottle job that dwarfs anything spuds has ever pulled for the dippers not to progress,imo”

I think they’re forgetting just how crazy European nights can be. Liverpool fans should be more aware of that than anyone. recall our 2nd leg tie against Milan in 2012? RvP should have tied it up at 4-4 with what, an hour gone? this City side at their best can dominate a game entirely. personally I think it’s far from over.

TonyD

Pierre
“Replicas”

From their official shops in the main malls, right?

Funny thing is you can’t even find replica Arsenal shirts on the foot path stalls. Obviously no money to be made. They sell plenty of other elite clubs’ merchandise, though.

Carts

I see this going two ways – everything Citeh touch turns to gold; or Larius is going to summon the Gods of De Gea and claw everything of the line.

Either way, I’d be surprised if City keep a clean sheet..

Guns of Brixton

Going for a 2 – 1 for City.

No way they won’t score, but Liverpool won’t bottle it that hard.

TR7

Mane -Salah -Firmino against a gung-ho City… well you have to back them to score at least one if not more and if that happens Liverpool go through to the semi-finals.

Guns of Brixton

Liverpool vs Barca

Dream match up.

Carts

*one of

Bamford10

Thomas Tuchel has signed a two-year deal with PSG according to The Mirror and others.

Bamford10

Asked his opinion re the best keepers in the world this morning, Ter Stegen named De Gea, Neuer, Buffon, Alisson and Ederson (leaving Courtois out).

HighburyLegend

Why Tuchel prefers to go to Paris instead of Arsenal, that’s a complete mystery to me.

Bamford10

I could see City getting two goals back tonight, maybe, but I don’t think Liverpool will allow them to get three back. It would be one thing if City were in scintillating form, but they seem a little unsure of themselves for the first time this season. Will be interesting to see what Pep does.

Wallace

the thing will be how many Liverpool are able to get. can easily see City scoring 3, 4 or more. they get 3 most games.

Samesong

I could see City getting two goals back tonight, maybe, but I don’t think Liverpool will allow them to get three back.

I only see this if Aguero starts. I can see City actually going a goal down early doors.

Guns of Brixton

Arsenal Adidas deal stuff doing the rounds

HighburyLegend

Not only the vampire will get a contract extension, but Adidas will be our new sponsor, and I hate this brand lol

Bob N16

Great news if true Wallace. Could hopefully save us a lot of money, as well as obviously seeing a youth player come through. Needs to be encouraged to attack defenders. Loved the way he was clearly telling other players where to go/what to do…great signs from an 18 yr old.

Uwot?

Oh those were the days.jim “ fingers” furnell & “coco the clown “Almunia.top banter with those two in goal.

Bamford10

“Nelson paid credit to Arsene Wenger for ensuring the academy talent is given a pathway to first team football. ‘He keeps pushing the youngsters – me, Eddie and Willock – I think he has got a bright future planned for us.‘ “ If only Wenger had a bright future planned for ARSENAL. But of course he doesn’t, nor does he give a fuck. Finishing 6th is fine as far as Wenger is concerned (though he’ll mouth words to the contrary) so long as he gets to continue to run things in accordance with his cherished “values”. The guy is such… Read more »

Wallace

BobN16

yes, very pleased it looks like he’s signing. our attack looks very good. only missing a wide player with speed and good dribbling skills. would be delighted if Nelson could fill that gap.

Barking Arsene

“Why Tuchel prefers to go to Paris instead of Arsenal, that’s a complete mystery to me.”

Our new guy Sven and him have issues from their Dortmund days. Was never really likely Tuchel would want to work with him again.

Wallace

I didn’t see it, but how bad were City last week? I’m amazed at how many people seem to be expecting a comfortable passage for Liverpool.

HighburyLegend

@Barking : sorry, I forgot to add the “lol” at the end of my comment.
(lol)

Samesong

I didn’t see it, but how bad were City last week?

City weren’t that bad they just got beat up like the last time they played Liverpool in the first half. liverpool front three is a handful for any team at the moment.

alexanderhenry

Good news that Reiss Nelson is signing . At least he runs at defenders. I have no idea why wenger hasn’t played him more this season.

Seems like the addidas deal is good news as well, but is it? It may mean more money but if we’re starting to lag behind chelsea it highlights how much the club has gone backwards since the stadium move.

HighburyLegend

” I have no idea why wenger hasn’t played him more this season.”
If that’s the only thing that bothers you…

alexanderhenry

HighburyLegend

Easy there… did I say it was the only thing that bothers me?

Wallace

good article https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/apr/09/romelu-lukaku-manchester-united-city-myth-cristiano-ronaldo “It was also Ronaldo who came to mind during the rollicking Manchester derby on Saturday, as City were running United ragged and Paul Pogba and Romelu Lukaku were again being berated for failing to impose themselves. Because people used to say the same about Ronaldo, too: big‑game bottler; flat‑track bully; unable to dominate important games… All in all, Lukaku is shaping up to be a textbook example of a flat-track bully. Except I am no longer sure such a concept exists. We all instinctively know, of course, that scoring against better teams is harder for everyone. However,… Read more »

Wallace

“In fact, as Chaudhuri notes, labelling players based on their performances in big games makes for a great study in confirmation bias. Ronaldo has scored vital goals, so whenever he does he is labelled a “big‑game player” – ignoring the fact he has managed only one non-penalty goal in his last five against Barcelona. Lukaku is the opposite; when he does not score in a big match he is targeted – ignoring the fact he provided a goal and assist against Chelsea, or an assist against Liverpool.”

HighburyLegend

@alexander : please don’t talk to me like if I was your friend, you stupid akb.

@wallace : indeed, fascinating article about a player and a team we don’t give a shit about, thanks.

gambon

Good news that Nelson may be extending. Hes the only youth that we have that is remotely interesting. That said, he has to push on now and start showing end product at senior level. This season is just about bedding in, next is about becoming a regular who starts 10-20 matches. Look at someone like Ryan Sessegnon for example, who is miles ahead of him. If the Adidas deal is £40m pa, then it really highlights the damage Wenger has done to this club, and how we are a fading force. UTD are in a league of their own, but… Read more »

Barking Arsene

@Highbury Legend

Sorry – I’m not very good at reading internet sarcasm!

Your LOL is noted!

Bob N16

Highbury Legend, not everybody prefers the aggressive approach.

Calling someone an AKB because they’re over familiar on a blog is a strange way of getting over your point of view.

If you don’t like someone’s comments, regardless of topic, you accuse them of supporting Wenger. What’s that all about? It comes across as a bit playground name-calling.

Bob N16

Surely Gambon, the deals that the commercial department can negotiate at the moment are intrinsically linked to our recent performance/success on the pitch.

You could argue that the commercial department will have done tolerable well under the circumstances.

It certainly would be true that we’ve lagged behind for a fair few years commercially. Investment properly on the pitch, commercial success ought to follow- stating the obviousI suppose.

gambon

BobN16 Liverpool have not won the league for over 25 years, have been in and out of the CL, and have not won a trophy for a long time, yet they are always comfortably ahead of us commercially. 9 years ago we went out and hired an expensive commercial team, which promised to follow Man Utds example. At the time we were behind Man Utd and Liverpool commercially…..we’re now behind Utd, City, Chelsea and Liverpool. Its just all part of the incredible apathy that exists at the club. The fans have given up because they dont care any more, the… Read more »

gambon

Whats worse however is the club celebrating our poor commercial achievements, and then in turn fans believing the club are in any way doing a good job commercially.

The new deal with Emirates was awful, yet if you believe the club and some of the gullible fans, it was the deal of the century.

It was a deal that leaves us at a real disadvantage with our rivals, or maybe not, as it seems the club has decided it would be easier to rival Everton and Burnley rather than the other ambitious clubs.

HighburyLegend

” the owner probably thinks we’re 6 points clear in the PL.”
We’re not ??

Bob N16

Gambon, I don’t think public self-congratulation from AFC is too surprising but completely take your point.

As I’m sure you’d agree Gambon, Liverpool have always had a much larger global support than us. Their 70s, 80s success with 4 CLs established them worldwide on a scale that allowed them to maintain a commercial clout that belied their lack of league titles.

Chelsea and City have had loads of success that has translated into great commercial deals.

I do believe we can compete, with a new manger and subsequent success.

Champagne Charlie

Bob N16

I’d skip discourse with Highburylegend, he’s like a shit version of Red. Offers nothing and just here to insult others.

Michael24

gambon

Arsenal’s commercial image has floundered considerably these past few years.

From a team of invincibles we’ve become a team of predictables.

Kids see Arsenal as being the proverbial losers.

Any supporter under the age of twenty knows nothing but mediocrity and regular embarrassments.

Is it not surprising we lag so far behind MU, MC, CHELSKI and LIVERPOOL.

Wenger has played a major role in our commercial demise.

Who else is there to blame?

“Our expensive commercial team” are only as good as the product they are promoting.

Well done Arsene.

alexanderhenry

Michael

‘Who else is there to blame?’

The people who keep employing him?

Josip Skoblar

PSG have approached Tuchel and Conte who are both interested in the managerial position. PSG will be making a choice shortly (Source: L’Equipe).

Josip Skoblar

It should be Tuchel. Everyone in the French media says It’ll be the German manager. Good choice.

Carts

So our Adidas deal represents a £10m p/a increase to £40m compared to our current Puma deal of £30m.

Does anyone know the details relating to sleeve deal?

Victorious

CC
“I’d skip discourse with Highburylegend, he’s like a shit version of Red. Offers nothing and just here to insult others.”

Nail and head there mate,bullshit Legend must be 12 or just an unfortunate imbecile,bit unfair on Red though who shits on him in all ramifications of what makes an ‘internet troll’

Carts

Josip

Chelsea are begging that PSG opt for Conte. They’re not keen on paying him that hefty compensation if they have to sack him. Can blame them.

However, stylistically, I’d like to see what Tuchel does for PSG. Conte’s style, imo, has more similarities to Blanc and Emery.

I think PSG are looking for something a bit more entertaining.

Bob N16

Carts, I think I read in the last few days that sleeves might be worth £5m a year.

Bob N16

CC…Michael 24 a poor man’s RT. Wow, that’s brutal!

Carts

Bob

Cheers. And presumably the reason we don’t have one is due to our shirt sponsor with Emirates?

Champagne Charlie

Michael 24

Have you got some figures that show our commercial image has floundered?

It’s a very measureable commodity is the commercial side of football. Forgive my skepticism, but it seems like you’re spouting a half baked opinion rather than a truth.

Happy to learn though, can’t say I’m up to speed with our commercial standings. Where are you sourcing your views?

BacaryisGod

It’s interesting seeing all of the criticism thrown at Mustafi. He’s had a few good games but for the most part he’s shown himself to be needless reckless and can swith off too often. It made me think about Man City for a moment. Look at their top 7 defenders: Walker, Danilo, Mendy, Laporte, Stones, Otamendi and Kompany. Of those, Otamendi and Stones have come in for criticism in recent years. They also bought Mangala who flopped and is now at Everton. Between those 7 defenders and Mangala, Man City invested about 300 million in transfer fees alone or about… Read more »

Victorious

Everybody waiting on Micheal24 the fountain of knowledge to share more lights or rather back up his opinions with more credible facts on why he thinks our commercial image has floundered.. wont hold my breath though

Michael24

alexanderhenry

No one employs Wenger.

Wenger employs himself.

You know that.

Victorious

‘Wenger employs himself.’

Lol

TonyD

Victoria
Why don’t you do the research and prove Michael24 wrong or are you not bright enough?

Probably the latter. Tangible posts are not in your remit.

Michael24

Victorious

Feeling confused?

I Know that 1 + 1 = 3 in your world.

I also have come to realize that basic logic doesn’t apply to you victorious

As I said yesterday, a nine year old has more understanding than some on here.

Ok, clever clogs, what’s your take on why AFC’s commercial identity has been eroded over these past twelve years?