Everything good and bad about Danny W was on display yesterday as Arsenal bumbled their way past the worst Southampton side we’ve seen in 5 years. He missed an open goal so wide you could have squeezed Samir Nasri’s arse through it, he assisted with a delightful deft touch, and he banged in two goals, one with a scruffy deflection, the other with an opportunistic header at the back post.
It was Danny’s day, but it wasn’t one you’d look back on with a great deal of fondness. It was Arsenal at their most banterful. The ground was half empty, the players were preserving their legs on the off chance they could land a starting place in Russia this Thursday, and the output of the day was a touch bizarre.
We went one goal down early. Tadic and Cedric made mincemeat of Chambers and Kolasinac down the left, a speculative ball was fired at our front post with the curve moving away from the keeper, Mustafi just zoned out like he’d had a clean energy production epiphany, Shane Long nipped in and put it past Cech. A defensive error so very symptomatic of any Wenger side you could remember over the past fifteen years.
The German would likely be a machine under a proper manager who cared about defence, but he’s not with us. He’s clumsy, he’s a finger-wagger like Flamini, and he’s ever so average.
We clawed a goal back in a sumptuous move. Elneney found Auba from deep midfield, he laid off Iwobes who returned the pass, a quick one-two with WELBZ set the man from Gabon free to poke his shot inside the keepers post.
9 minutes later Danny W picked up a great ball from Iwobi, he cut inside right and rifled a deflected shot into the top corner from 20 yards. Has the man ever had a clean shot? Can we call this a strategy now? A great goal regardless.
Their second goal was a collection of very Arsenal fuck-ups. We weren’t alert to their quick freekick, we managed to get away with the first ball fizzed across our box, Jack Wilshere was pottering around and didn’t get close to Hojberg on the edge of the box. The Dane played a one-two with Tadic, crossed across a now packed box and found Charlie Austin for a near instant goal after he came on as a sub. Utterly embarrassing. I mean, I’m not even touching on Chambers shocking clearance, another player who looked off the pace all day. That £23m we rejected for him looking crazier by the day.
I thought we’d see out a point, but Danny Welbeck had other ideas, popping up to nod home a looping Iwobi cross in the 80th minute.
The game wasn’t finished from a drama perspective, Jack Wilshere had to make an impact the only way he knows how to these days. He had a tussle with Stephens just outside the Stoke box and didn’t like the outcome. He decided to track him down as he powered through the middle of the pitch, Jack ripped his shirt because he couldn’t keep pace with the centre back, and was instantly thrown to the floor in retaliation. Jack got up, protested, landed Stephens a red card, he managed to get away with a yellow. Then Elneney got involved in the mess and landed a red. A real joke of a situation that was completely unnecessary.
An entertaining afternoon, no doubt. But entertaining like a comical WWE bout. We shouldn’t be conceding 2 goals to relegation fodder under any circumstances, let alone at home. We shouldn’t be picking up late red cards in nothing matches. We shouldn’t be so flat. But we are. Arsenal is a weird old place at the moment.
Aubameayang is an interesting striker. He’s starting to settle into the rhythm of the first team, he’s offering up the runs our playmaker’s dream of, and he’s starting to connect better with the build-up play. His MO is goals, and pretty much just goals. I don’t think he wants to be involved in the play like a Thierry, Robin or Alexis would be. His end product outside of goals isn’t great, and I don’t expect we’ll be seeing much in the way of link-up play like a Giroud would offer. But, look, he scores goals. He’s now our most prolific striker over the first 7 games, beating out Davor Suker (Opta inventing stats to new levels). It would be a real shame not to give him a run with a proper manager, in a proper team. Next year is going to be him at his peak, we need to max out his value and that won’t be with Wenger.
Jack Wilshere was disappointing again. The apologists will say his head isn’t in the game at the moment as he’s thinking about his contract. Well, that never stopped Theo and it certainly isn’t stopping Ramsey pulling up trees (nor Ozil earlier in the season). I think it’s mostly because he doesn’t have the extra level we’d hoped would be there. He’s 26 now, and he’s no more interesting than he was when he was 18. At least when he was a kid, you felt he cared about the game, I look at him now and wonder if he’s just in it for the wages and the good life at home? He’s certainly not playing like he wants a new deal or a move to a better club. I’m not sure I’d be whacking £100k p/w on him based on what we’ve seen this year.
Arsene is clearly blowing all on zero at the roulette table. It’s the only way he saves this season. We’ll win on Thursday, and he’ll have a chance at a new deal because Stan and Josh don’t understand the context of failure. If he makes the final, he’ll have to avoid Atleti, who have so many levels to their game. I watched them respond to going 1 down at Madrid. They have many great players and a coach who can change the game from the touchline. We have no chance against them over two legs, and it’ll be a Chelsea like miracle over one game.
But we’ll see… this season is the Europa mission. A shame for the home fans, because the Premier League season is like watching paint dry. The apathy in the ground is met in the living rooms. Pray we don’t mess up Thursday.
See you in the comments, and watch our podcast where Matt and I discuss:
- Aubameyeng: Hit or miss?
- The case for our defence: Who stays or goes?
- Iwobi: Hero in waiting, or another Nik B?
- Jack Wilshere: What do you do with him?
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There’s that God Awful Where’s Waldo T-Shirt again, Pedro!
Yesterdays display justified the empty seats on display. Makes one seriously wonder, why bother with such a shit team? Saw many things unfold as scenarios of keeping Wenger on beyond his past expiry date and what we are seeing now, as a regular event now, is pretty much what one could and should expect. Its only going to far worse from here on out and only Wenger and the board can change it. You arent fooling anyone any longer.
It is great, isn’t it? We have no central defenders (Chambers and Mustafi aren’t good enough for Premier League). In fact I can’t think of ANY central defender in the league as poor as those two. We don’t have any fullbacks because Kola isn’t a fullback and nor is Bellerin really – Bellerin being far more interested in fashion than improving his technique (though he wasn’t as bad yesterday). Mustafa was shocking, absolutely shocking as he has been most of the season. This is what you get when when you buy players on the last day of the window –… Read more »
“the Board must declare NOW that he will be replaced at the end of this season ”
I don’t get you comment, he will stay, period.
You have obviously missed an episode…
PhD07April 9, 2018 09:36:30 EmiratesstrollerApril 9, 2018 08:55:09 After the Moscow game I suggested that Arsenal are heavily dependent on scoring a lot of goals in all our games in order to win. We will need our three goals advantage in Moscow because you cannot rely on us not conceding two or three goals there. So far we have conceded 60 goals this season in all competitions and that tells you just how poor we are in defence. ———————————— With all due respect,I think you are stating the bleeding obvious. Roll back,almost a decade-it’s never been any different under his… Read more »
Haven’t seen anything from yesterday’s game.
We got the 3 points, just, against a poor Soton team that look like relegation beckons. They simply don’t look like they have anything left.
Disappointing really, considering their squad is actually better than many teams above them, a la Burnley.
2017-2018-61 goals to date.
Pedro Arsenal need to plan their transfer window now and not leave it as they usually do until last minute. My view is that offensively Arsenal have got good enough resources with three new players recruited this season in Aubameyang, Lacazette and Mkhitaryan. When you add in Ozil and Ramsey the quality is good enough to play against opposition in EPL. Messrs Welbeck and Iwobi are not good enough to play in starting lineup, but are perhaps okay for bench. However, there is still an opening in our team for a top quality winger, but not at the expense of… Read more »
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That’s just not possible to do our business now with Wenger still in control
He’s judgement on player’s quality’s is at best less than average.
“There is only one direction that this player will go and that is downwards.”
Just like his manager… which does not prevent him from staying lol
“it is time for French intellectuals to “act as the modest and efficient servants of the public, bowing to the principles of an empirical and pragmatic policy.”
Its a difficult situation. On one hand the backroom has improved with Sven and Raul and they are doing their part in identifying talent and bringing it in, but on the other hand there is that skinny wrinkly elephant in the room, that guy who wont leave the party no matter how many hints you give him. Until Wenger goes and a right proper manager is brought in, progress continues on a one step forward two steps back routine – and nothing good ever comes of that.
Many have said it and i agree entirely, yesterday showed exactly why Arsenal should nor re-sign Jack Wilshere. The monies paid to him would be better invested elsewhere.
Frankie CoffeecakesApril 9, 2018 10:36:38
“but on the other hand there is that skinny wrinkly elephant in the room, that guy who wont leave the party no matter how many hints you give him. ”
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Sounds familiar,with a particular poster on here.
Lives in a makeshift delusional world.Opinions are facts.A lie is the truth,and the truth is a lie.
Speechless.
The best thing about yesterday was the empty seats. Spurs fans turn up no matter what, they’re a masochistic bunch who enjoy a good moan. Whereas Arsenal supporters historically show displeasure by staying away. It’s taken a while longer than in the past, but loyalty is a two-way street, and the people who run the Club do not give a stuff for the fans.
We get an occasional bone to keep us quiet. Perhaps Wenger will be sacrificed by them this summer. Don’t be fooled. They will look for another scapegoat willing to take the flak just like him.
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Nice pod, Pedro.
Just to focus on Wilshere for a second – he’s finished. Such a nothing player. Haven’t see his performance from yesterday’s game but it’s gotten to a point whereby Wilshere is shite to watch.
He’s angling for improved terms on a new deal – which I get. All professional sportmen do and will.
But If we lose him in the summer, I can assure you we wouldn’t miss his presence.
Dorothea Tanning, Birthday, 1942.
Happy Birthday to all Le Grovers who age another year this week.
The lady is inviting you to walk through the doors into a post – Wenger world. Except the invitation. It is time to discard the gnarled roots that are unnecessarily weighing you down.
Maybe NSFW. Depends on how petty your workplace is.
http://www.actingoutpolitics.com/dorothea-tannings-birthday-1942-life-the-world-and-the-personalitys-identity/
Pedro
All we need from Auba is the ability to stretch defenses and goals. We don’t need a total footballer a la Henry, & I don’t think anyone here thought that that’s what we were getting.
As for Mustafi, while I agree he would be better under a better manager, his mistake yesterday was one that no good defender should ever make under ANY circumstances. His decision there — waiting for Cech to come to a ball that was clearly his —was shockingly bad and suggests his mentality and instincts are wrong.
I’ll be honest, I’ve lost so much interest in Arsenal, it’s not even funny.
As for Mustafi, while I agree he would be better under a better manager
Bamford I am not convinced by this whatsoever he makes mistakes regularly and his tackling sometimes is ridiculous. He will still do the same under another manager. He’s a defender that needs a leader next to him to instruct him on the pitch.
It’s going to Mustafigate here today because he still isn’t forgiven for that lame ass attempt at claming a foul when the ball bounced over his head. Not a good defender in my opinion.
Samesong
I partly agree. That’s why I highlighted a mistake of his that is probably beyond the reach of coaching.
I mean, re-watch their first goal: what good defender would ever do what he did there?
I do think his positioning could be better if he had better instruction, but I agree that he has other issues that may be uncorrectable.
Carts
If you’re rebuilding this summer, whom do you keep / re-sign? Whom do you sell or let go? Who should be in the XI next season?
Emiratesstroller No offense intended, but sometimes your posts also leave me shaking my head in disbelief. You do open yourself up to criticism by basically highlighting what is THE BLEDDIN OBVIOUS. For example, Arsenal’s defensive frailties have been evident since 1866!! @RT often reacts out of frustration and anger, mainly because many fans, not just yourself, feel the need to inform those of us who, you assume, know no better, what is happening at AFC. I personally find it hilarious that fans who highlight so many facets of the club that are blindingly obvious and have been for years, don’t… Read more »
Sorry Pedro, I can’t take anybody who wears a girls blouse seriously – except a girl or a transgender.
This notion that “no good defender” would’ve done what Mustafi did is utter bollocks, some of he very best defenders ever have made similar brain dead decisions (or lack of decisions).
Good to see some ‘students of the game’ are continuing their reactionary drivel.
Maybe Mustafi just needs to be played at RB for us to see his best? 🙂
Frankie CoffeecakesApril 9, 2018 10:36:38“
but on the other hand there is that skinny wrinkly elephant in the room, that guy who wont leave the party no matter how many hints you give him. ”
Apt, describes the situation decently, even without the pile os shit the wrinkled elephant deposits. Might be caviar to some, but reeks definitely.
Well put Cupcakes
Mustafi just zoned out like he’d had a clean energy production epiphany… hmm, I like 🙂
I feel like someone is a little obsessed with everything I say.
I encourage everyone here to re-watch Mustafi’s blunder on the first goal and decide for themselves how bad a blunder it was. P
Bamford Man, where do you start. I remember several seasons ago, we’d all be in here talking about rebuilding. Fast forward several seasons and we’re still discussing it. The level of neglect by Wenger has pushed us back, massively. But to answer your question, I’d start by getting rid of the following players based on a varied reasons: Cech – he finished as a top level goalkeeper. Tbh, Chelsea knew this and got rid. Bellerin – his head is gone. Going through the motions; seems uninterested. Chambers – just an all round rubbish defender. As with a lot of players,… Read more »
“Tbh, Chelsea knew this and got rid.”
lol so true, they knew best!!
Michael 24 If you read Le Grove and in particular people like RT they will find fault with virtually anything and anyone. Arsenal’s failings are well known particularly this season, but it does not mean that all our players are shit. We have seen time and time again players who had indifferent seasons at Arsenal but have then moved on elsewhere and won trophies. It is interesting to note that 3 defenders who achieved nothing at Arsenal went on to win major trophies at Man City i.e. Toure, Sagna and Clichy. We offloaded this season Gabriel and Debuchy both of… Read more »
“We offloaded this season Gabriel and Debuchy both of whom played indifferently for us. Yet Gabriel has had an outstanding season at Valencia and Debuchy is by all accounts challenging for a place in French National Team.”
This.
Exactly what I am saying.
ES
Exactly!!!
It’s just a pity that our gutless fanbase don’t “recognise that holding onto Wenger is counterproductive”.
There I go again, stating the bleeding obvious yet again.
The reason players like Gabriel and Debauchery have improved is because………..wait for it……………………..Wenger is crap!!!
Have you got it now?!?
It’s a bit hilarious… Debuchy is a complete different player.
Fortunatelly for him he left before being totally wengerized lol
If we win the EL Wenger needs to step-the-fuck-down. For the love of the club and fan base.I just don’t see the rationale, outside of arrogance, as to why he want to stay on. We need to apply as much pressure on the board as possible.
Yes Bandyford it was a bad error Mustafi made
that was blatantly obvious but did you read what
Champers actually wrote.
Some of the very best defenders have made similar mistakes.
There’s no argument there but it seems you just need to be more right
than other posters on every post.
Perhaps you just have that type of personality disorder i don’t know.?
But your becoming weirder & WEIRDER.
And one other comment i will pass on to you.
“If your going to continue to lie—-you must improve your memory.”
‘Mustafi just zoned out like he’d had a clean energy production epiphany’
Quality
Emirates
Clichy and toure were in the invicibles squad
The Invincibles.
Seems to be a sweet dream coming from a galaxy far away.
Not sure it really happened…
Wenger has lost his way managerially, I mean as much as his philosophy is flawed where before it was balanced and delivered success. Imo he was totally in awe of that Barca side and tried to conjure his own version of it. The trouble being he didn’t have players at that technical level, albeit they were quality, and his version didn’t account for what the team needed to do without the ball nearly as much as when they had it. Today you see the evidence of the mans confusion because our team is terrible without the ball, but also lacks… Read more »
Michael 24, accusing Stroller of stating the bleeding obvious and then for the umpteenth time writing Wenger must go! Amazing.
Bob N16
I too noticed that, have to chuckle sometimes
No point asking these Qs if Wenger doesn’t fuck off.
*Aubameyeng: Hit or miss? More likely than not…
The case for our defence: Who stays or goes?
Mert reiring
Keep – Kos, Holding, Monreal, Kola
Sell/ dump – Jenk, Chambers, Mustafi, Bellerin (if gets 40m+)
Iwobi: Hero in waiting, or another Nik B?
Sell
Jack Wilshere: What do you do with him?
Sell…too late
CC – I can’t recall a successful side that doesn’t have a good defence. I know City are better attacking than defending (as I suppose are Liverpool). However, bottom line, there are times in a season when you will only score one goal in a game – those games are the one’s you want to keep a clean sheet, great defending, goal keeping masterclass. Wenger clearly does not worry about defensive issues, in the same way he’s concerned by our passing game. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Watching Mustafi’s schoolboy defending 30 yards away from me on Sunday made me so angry.… Read more »
God, I am so over everything to do with this current Arsenal squad, I feel absolutely nothing win/lose/draw.
Even more disheartening but not unexpected to hear Wenger talking today about summer signings.
The sea urchin is not going anywhere. I’m seriously not up for another year of his tripe.
“There has to come a time when the Major Shareholder and Senior Management recognise that holding onto Wenger is counterproductive.”
ES,
Don’t you think as season ticket holders we can at least try to influence this notion ?
Bob N16
I agree, Wenger abandoned defensive responsibility when he sought his Barca style system. Massive oversight not to acknowledge how good they were defensively in terms of positional discipline and accountability.
I love the fact Arsenal are a team that embraces the responsibility to entertain and produce attacking football. But there has to be a balance, it’s irritating that it was once there and has been lost in some ridiculous search for idealistic football. We’re a ways away from superiority in either discipline.
@Ole : we will be very lucky if it’s only 1 more year.
Our defence is a total shambles. The lack of organisation and discipline is shocking.
TGhe point which intrigues me is how some so-called quality players seem to go downhill as soon s they pull on our shirt.
Mustafi – has 20+ caps for the best national side in the world, icnluding a World Cup Medal
Debuchey
“how some so-called quality players seem to go downhill as soon s they pull on our shirt.”
That’s what we call the “wenger effect”.
Our defence is a total shambles. The lack of organisation and discipline is shocking.
TGhe point which intrigues me is how some so-called quality players seem to go downhill as soon s they pull on our shirt.
For example:
Mustafi – has 20+ caps for the best national side in the world, including a World Cup Medal
Debuchey – a regular for France with over 25 aps, now having a great season by all accounts
Kolasinac – best left back in German league before signing for us
“Wenger has lost his way managerially, I mean as much as his philosophy is flawed where before it was balanced and delivered success.” He hasn’t lost his way. This is just pure Wenger we are seeing now, and it would’ve been seen a lot earlier if the George Graham players weren’t there to compliment/completely hold up his ‘idealistic’ philosophy of nicey niceyness. Also had the advantage of being only foreigner in the league and so reaped the benefits of the continental preparation and the knowledge of the best french generation ever seen. This is the real Wenger we are seeing.… Read more »
Bob and Charlie
True, but there is a massive difference between @ES monologue of interpretations and my own simple and repetitive Wenger out strategy.
ES is highlighting facts and figures that are evident to anyone who knows anything about the game, whereas my own Wenger out fixation is based on the clear fact that he is destroying everything the club stands for.
It’s called NOT BEATING ABOUT THE BUSH, something that you lot have absolutely no concept of.
“Yeh, we want Wenger out but we’ll keep cheering the lads on”.
Hypocrites but still hilarious.
Win the Europa and it’s an almost certainty that Wenger signs for another 2 years. It’ll leave a real sour residue if we win our first European trophy in over 20 years with the knowledge that it’ll secure the man another contract.
He’s already got that gleam back in his eyes.
Difficult to understand, Michael. Mustafi can appear excellent, then he makes a schoolboy error. On Sunday, his lack of awareness was schocking. Southampton were playing 4-5-1, as one of the two CBs, your main focus has to be the CF. Cech or another defender could have given him a shout but he was ball watching. Can Wenger be blamed for this? I know it’s become popular to blame Wenger for the state of the economy, the amount of rain we’re having etc but I think Mustafi is simply not that good. So he can be blamed for his acquisition I… Read more »
I know you’re on a mission Michael 24 but it’s still stating the bleeding obvious, however you want to dress it up.
The fact that you’re rude when you’re being hypocritical just makes some people respond negatively to you. Not sure what the rudeness achieves but go for it, if you have to.
“Difficult to understand, Michael. Mustafi can appear excellent, then he makes a schoolboy error. On Sunday, his lack of awareness was schocking. ” I agree 100%. But there is a definite link between these rated players and their subsequent performance in red and white. As someone who has played and watched football for many years, my belief is that the basic fault is the defensive coaching – or the lack of it. Otherwise I am at a total loss to explain why good, international standard players like Mustafi, Debuchey, etc decline so fast at Arsenal. Were they bad players before… Read more »
BobN16, and anyone else who cares to have an opinion,
Do you believe if we won the Europa that wenger would :
A) Gracefully leave on this “high” ?
OR
B) See out his contract and then leave in 2019 ?
OR
C) Run to Stan for a further 2 year mandate till 2021 at the least ?
“BobN16, and anyone else who cares to have an opinion,
Do you believe if we won the Europa that wenger would :
A) Gracefully leave on this “high” ?
OR
B) See out his contract and then leave in 2019 ?
OR
C) Run to Stan for a further 2 year mandate till 2021 at the least ?”
C
C for me too.
“ I encourage everyone here to re-watch Mustafi’s blunder on the first goal and decide for themselves how bad a blunder it was. “
Well Bamford, it most certainly was a brain fart, the kind that sadly and frustratingly we have become accustomed to with Mustafi. To be honest, if he’d spend less time pointing fingers and complaining he might actually pass for a marginal footballer. In his totality, weve not seen the worst that he has to offer. And i believe i am being fair with my assessment.
This much IS true, should Arsenal win the EL you absolutely know that Wenger will not only not leave, but he will actively campaign for an extension, using this accomplishment as a platform of his own perceived success and greatness.
Wenger has absolutely no shame, never has and never will.
Michael24, to call fans who go to games and cheer the team hypocrites totally misundertands what it is to be part of a football tribe.
You support your team no matter what, if you can turn off when you don’t like something, you’re not really in the game for the right reasons.
BobN16 “Mission?” No, just putting my club first. For the most part I feel I am not rude, more sarcastic. The fact that I use the word hypocrite in describing many on here has no bearing on my own perspectives. Why am I hypocritical? I want Wenger out and blame him for all our on pitch frailties. You don’t. Then again, you do ( see how confused you all are)and yet you continue to convince yourselves that there are others to blame. You blame the players for their on field mistakes, mistakes that have become so predictable and repetitive over… Read more »
UTarse,
No way A is happening unless he has health issues.
If next season shows an improvement C.
Might be B.
Still hoping Josh shows some balls and Wenger is encouraged to leave. Best solution by a mile… 1 in 20 shot I’d guess!
Michael24, to call fans who go to games and cheer the team hypocrites totally misundertands what it is to be part of a football tribe.You support your team no matter what, if you can turn off when you don’t like something, you’re not really in the game for the right reasons.
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You’re missing the point completely. Normally you wouldn’t do that but this ain’t a normal situation either that we’re in.
Apathy being what it is, it really wont be too long before anyone and everyone who supports the team will become disinterested and head elsewhere to occupy their time.
To Pedro, you consistently keep forgetting something – football is just a game. In the end, who gives two you-know-whats. To say that its about being part of a football tribe? Thats the most magnificent pile of cow flop ever! Its a game…get it yet?
Calling you hypocritical Michael 24 about stating the bleeding obvious.
Almost everybody wants Wenger gone.
Heard of a fixed mindset, look in the mirror.
Criticising Arsenal supporters for supporting the team is also a certain mindset, I’ll leave you to fill in the adjective!
A NINE YEAR OLD PUTS EVERYTHING INTO PERSPECTIVE.
Every Saturday morning I help out coaching a local U10 team.
Last weekend I placed a few marker cones out to work on some drills. Unbeknowingly I put a cone out with the Arsenal crest on.
A nine year old lad looked at the cone and shouted out “Yuk!!, Arsenal. They’re rubbish!!”
“Why’s that?” I replied.
“Because Arsene Wenger is no good and they make lots of mistakes”
I had to agree with him.
The cone survived!
BobN16
Your hitting your head against a brick wall on this one and you know it!
“Almost everyone wants Wenger gone” Some, though, want him out more than others
Keep cheering him on then, because that’s what you’re doing.
Cheering for something that is fundamentally flawed, is not in my Psyche.
Frankie, I don’t think following a blog most days demonstrates that much apathy. Everybody on here cares, otherwise we wouldn’t bother. To use a cliche, my own DNA doesn’t allow me to be apathetic about Arsenal…ever since I was seven. Anybody who has ever known me associates me with a consistent passion for Arsenal. For me It’s not a switch to turn on or off. It’s not a choice. So when someone suggests I shouldn’t go to games, for me that’s almost not possible. I do understand other people have a different take on it. Fair enough, go for it.… Read more »
“Great goal Danny!”……….………..”Well done Arsene!!”
Keep taking those pills Bob!!
Michael 24, you have come completely fixated. I don’t accept the premise that Wenger and Arsenal are one and the same. Are you old enough to remember Arsenal pre Wenger? It’s almost as though your world and perspective has shrunk to Arsenal = Wenger.
He’ll be gone, whether it’s this summer or me
this summer or next. Sometimes I feel people have convinced themselves that he’s staying for another ten years….
Great cross Iwobi, Danny showing some character. Who’s that guy beginning with W you’re talking about Michael….never heard of him?
BobN16
“Passion” for something that you love, which is being destroyed proves that your own DNA is flawed.
Now that may be construed as being rude, but please don’t talk to me about your committment to the club. Weak and feeble imo.
I love Arsenal but will not stand by and tolerate(support) a regime that has become poisonous to the extreme.
As usual, when the going gets tough, the all too familiar excuse syndrome sets in.
Ever worked or played in a team environment Bob?
Yes, was attached to the club well in advance of Monsieur Wenger.
Bertie Meet ring a bell?
“Meet”
Spell check doesn’t even know who Bertie Mee is!
Of course Wengers staying next year, but in a way this is the only way you’ll keep the fans away. They’re too “respectful” to make their feelings known but an increasing number are so bored of it all that they just can’t be bothered to show up. That will only get worse the longer this goes on for.
I saw Arsene’s interview citing mental strength/resources and could have been forgiven for thinking it was a rehash for any of his interviews over the last 8 years.
Supporting football is one thing.
Supporting Arsenal turning into garbage year after year is totally different.
We all know who is to blame. If we keep supporting the agenda of ‘let him resign when he wants’, when it happens, you would have chosen a different interest already.
Seeing Arsene smile even at this lowest point makes me boil.
Utterly shameless he is.
Kay
Try explaining that to some on here.
They love him…………….I mean, the team!
Michael 24, in the mid 70s we were completely average, in Graham’s final years the cups masked mid table mediocrity. I’m not happy about being 6th but we will compete again.
Don’t be so dramatic. I’m mildly obsessed by Arsenal but I can see there’s a lot more serious shit in the world than a favourite football team ‘languishing’in 6th place, get a grip.
Michael 24 17.31, ‘try explaining that…’
Good luck with explaining Kay 17.22 last paragraph Michael. Have read it three times and you’re a better man than me if you can work out what he’s saying.
Bob
I feel you’re wasting time and energy on Micheal24,anybody that blames the fanbase or especially match going fans for the charade going on at Arsenal shouldn’t be taken serious,it simply means their take on Arsenal soundly revolves only on Wenger and thereby can’t be arsed to see a bigger picture when things could very much return to normalcy
Michael24, to call fans who go to games and cheer the team hypocrites totally misundertands what it is to be part of a football tribe.
You support your team no matter what, if you can turn off when you don’t like something, you’re not really in the game for the right reasons.
concisely put
Victorious, you’re right, the Wenger = AFC position is too entrenched.
I just got worked up when he had a go at Stroller who was simply posting his views on the team.
Leaving it now, apologies for clogging up the thread.
Welcome to the show @ Victorious.
Your valued and constructive input is always worth waiting for.
Not that I really absorb any of it.
@Bob
Of course there’s more serious shit going on in the world.
Thanks for the insight.
Michael 24 You are beginning to sound like RT Mark 2. You like slagging other posters. The fact is that Arsenal’s performance level this season is the worst that it has been during Wenger era. That is reflected in our position in league, the number of defeats [10] and the goals conceded which stands now at over 60. In the past we have conceded silly goals primarily due to zonal marking at corners and set pieces. This season most are conceded from poor marking and schoolboy errors. There is absolutely no communication level as we saw on Sunday. My point… Read more »
Apologising to Victorious!
Wonders will never cease.
Have a nice evening.
“It’s called NOT BEATING ABOUT THE BUSH, something that you lot have absolutely no concept of.“Yeh, we want Wenger out but we’ll keep cheering the lads on”.Hypocrites but still hilarious.“ You’re so edgy and cool mate. I pay to watch Arsenal, it’s the team I support. I want change because the club needs new life, but irrespective of that the baseline requirement and desire I have as a fan is seeing my team do well. That applies in a micro and macro level. When I watch them play, I want good football and a result. When they have a trophy… Read more »