Sexy manager flirts with our darkest desires, but is it us he calls for?

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“Certainly I will go abroad,”

“In Italy, finished.”

That’s Max Allegri. Get used to the name, because we’ll be cursing it this summer when Arsenal pass on his services.

Arguably, the Italian is the most suitable candidate to take over from Arsene Wenger when he should be told to pack his bags this summer. The suave manager of Juventus has put his club on notice, and apparently, that above line was delivered in English, I guess to make a point that he’s Premier League bound.

He feels very Chelsea-ish to me. I know the London club have been fluttering eyes at Luis Enrique, so it’s not nailed on, but I can’t see anywhere else he’d be heading. Tuchel to PSG, or even Juve? Who knows. But Rapha Honigstein is doubling down on Wenger staying in another news cycle. It’s all starting to feel very familiar.

I mean, we’ve passed on Klopp, Pochettino, Ancelotti and Guardiola. What’s another world class manager to Arsenal?

The joke being that the club will do their pathetic merry dance of, ‘we searched high, then we searched low, then we had a look in the reception bin, then we found the answer… it was right in front of us, the greatest manager ever… iiiiiiit’s Arsene!’

Then the old man will trot out some bullshit about focus, uniting the fanbase, whilst selling us the vomit inducing esoteric ‘Arsenal values’ proposition.

It’s depressing but symptomatic of a club with very little balls. I’d imagine from Stan’s point of view, he’s likely having a heart attack at the investment he has to make on his $4.9b stadium in LA, along with all the costs of the staff… the idea of hiring in a new manager who comes with ambition at Arsenal might not feel too appetising (also, take a moment to let that Reddit link sink in. Stan turned us into a poverty joke for 5 years, not laying out a penny while we were cash poor, now he’s racking up so much debt, he’s having to ask the NFL to extend the debt ceiling).

That said, I can’t think of any logical reason why you wouldn’t want to give both clubs the best chance of being elite? It’s not like we have Pochettino working wonders on a neutral transfer spend, with £120m wage bill. Wenger is operating on a net spend higher than Real Madrid’s, and he’s spunking bad money after bad money on players and exorbitant salaries (the worst one, being his own). He’s also leaving a shed tonne of cash on the table with the Champions League and sponsorship.

I really cannot understand why the club are finding it so hard to say goodbye?

It was a real low on the podcast yesterday when I had to call out that we’d pulled away from Burnley who were chasing us down for 6th place. Our season has been an unmitigated disaster. The football is dross, the players don’t care, and the fans are not bothering to show up for tickets they’ve paid for. The thing no one talks about with the ticket piece is this: most fans can’t give their tickets away. My pals on Whatsapp are always trying to shift spare tickets, often for free, and it’s hard work.

‘I’m pruning a bush’

‘I’m tired from hot yoga’

‘I’d rather put my head in an oven’

We are the least interesting club in world football. We are the stalest disaster in the game. Total drudgery.

Still, maybe Ivan Gazidis grew some balls this year and is about to drop a Robert Mueller like surprise for us this summer. Wouldn’t that be joyful?

Another point… teams announce new managers before the season is out (City / Bayern / Barca), and managers announce they’re leaving early (Enrique, Pep, Allegri). It doesn’t destroy the club. Our players are moaning that they’re unsettled that people are talking about Wenger’s future. The manager will wrap the season in an excuse like that, just like he did last year. Reality is, even when his future is wrapped up, players don’t give a fuck for him, because he’s just an average manager with a reputation bigger than the club.

We are a tragedy of a sporting entity.

I REALLY HOPE I AM PROVEN INCORRECT.

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mysticleaves

Ramsey and Wilshere need replacing. That is the paramount. If not by Meyer, by someone else.

Marc

The big question for the club isn’t the number of sold empty seats but how many ST holder’s will drop them this summer and next with change. At one point the waiting list was 7 – 8 years I can’t believe it’s still at that level and even if it is how many people who signed up are going to actually take up the offer of a ST at the moment.

Champagne Charlie

“when you yourself told us that Wenger was still capable of winning titles. You and Stan Kroenke agreed on that point, no?“

You spouted recently that you don’t lie on here and never have…

…but you continue to lie about this despite me addressing it about dozens times. I didn’t say that, you’re doing exactly what you claim others of: misrepresenting.

Victorious

Anyone who thinks Wenger is leaving this summer or the next is a deluded moron.
He has another contract in him to keep running this shit show as he basically can award them to himself as much as he like”

This was supposed to make me lol but along the last line I almost felt sad and shared a tear#sadrealityofArsenal FC

Akilan

Ramsey and Jack are both better players than Meyer.

Attacking wise I agree. We never disputed it. Defensively they’re not. He is miles better. Makes almost as many tackles and interceptions as both of them combined. Runs more than12km a game. Check out the stats as you’re good at it, victorious. And most importantly, he has legs to play in PL, which Jack lacks. Stays in his position which Ramsey can’t.

Champagne Charlie

Max Meyer is 22 folks, he’s had a breakout season after being moved from wide to deep lying playmaker. I’d be plenty happy with his recruitment. Lots of clubs circling which is a Le Grove necessity for a good player I hear?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arCuRKmT_NU

Covers ground well, puts his foot in, and has the technique/brain to break lines with his passing. Would offer a lot of what a Cazorla delivered centrally.

HighburyLegend

“It’s London…lots of visitors to fill seats.”

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if the board paid some of them just to have more full seats.

WengerEagle

Akilan

He’s edging Ramsey in the tackles stakes, Ramse’sy offensive numbers destroy his however.

We’ve seen that Ramsey is very capable defensively in the past as well.

Jack as well is much better going forward.

Meyer’s decent but he doesn’t elevate us.

WengerEagle

I’d be looking at other options, there’s better out there than Meyer.

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

You’re aware of the pitfalls in comparing a players stats right?

One plays for Schalke, the other Arsenal. That alone makes comparisons practically moot.

Marc

“It’s London…lots of visitors to fill seats.”

Then why can’t people I know sell their tickets on exchange?

There’ll always be people wanting to see matches vs the Spud’s, City , Utd and Liverpool etc what about the other 20 odd matches a season?

Frank Mc

Good in Wayne’s world too…

Rambo Ramsey

Allegri sees himself as an “instinctive” coach, instead of relying too much on statistics or tactics. “I could never be a coach who mainly focuses on tactics or analytics because I am more instinctive,” he said. “The coach, in my opinion, bases his decisions on sensations, on perceptions. “Otherwise it would be enough to sit in front of the computer and football would be like a PlayStation. And that is not what I am. “In football there are a lot of people who try to reach perfection with figures, with tactics but it’s impossible because there are too many variables.”… Read more »

Moe

Victorious isn’t victorious this time around. Admit that u made it up and apologize or is dat too hard for a Wenger clone

Champagne Charlie

“What do Allegri fans make of these comments?“

Tend to agree. Very relevant to the debate about Meyer frankly, you an sit and crunch numbers all you like but decisions about players can’t be reached solely on data.

Same with teams and tactics, there’s a subjective judgement or grey area that separates the best coaches in the world. The better the coach is largely the better the judge for the minutiae involved with team setup and preparation.

S Asoa

As absolution of Kroenke, the argument is he does not know about football, he is away, he does not care about what happens to the Club, and ultimately that he implicitly trust Wenger in all things. Kroenke will not do anything without Wenger’s nod because Le Creep broughtthe carpetbagger into absolute control of AFC, the quid pro being TOTAL CONTROL TO THE DESPOT no matter. How long the fukkards in town will not get this? And will they’ll raise Cain to make it impossible for Le Cretin to stay! Yes, and to the “am the elite” retort to follow. Yes,… Read more »

Akilan

And I would never trust Ramsey to play in a two man midfield. You too don’t trust him, do you? His interceptions are twice as much as Ramsey. Actually they’re better than a certain Chelsea midget DM. I’m not saying he’s better than Kante. Just stats. If going by stats is the way, he has better stats than Xhaka in every defensive department and he is neither as slow nor as immobile. As he’s played as AM throughout his carrier, he should be a lot better than Elneny. That alone suggests me that he will improve our midfield. He’s free,… Read more »

Leftsidesanch

Yes, it’s London but if your a tourist or someone not heavily into football just wanting the experience etc I’m sure you could choose to spend your money on teams who actually look competent on the field across the capital (two spring to mind, even though ones having a poor season by their standards). The Arsenal fans who still do don’t have a choice as they’re emotionally tied to this “club”. At this point they probably don’t enjoy doing so but do it out of habit/not wanting to lose their season tickets because let’s face it..even if Wenger stays a… Read more »

WengerEagle

It’s not pertinent to the Meyer discussion, I’ve watched Schalke on a few occasions and he’s never particularly impressed me either.

We all know the importance of stats, they’re not the be all and end all but they represent the type of player that somebody is.

I could say that Griezmann is a better dribbler than Hazard, stats cannot be dismissed as Allegri is suggesting.

Akilan

The above post was addressed to WE.

WengerEagle

Not even sure what Allegri’s comments are supposed to mean exactly?

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

Allegri didn’t dismiss them, he said relying on them isn’t his way.

Mousa Dembele is a statistical dud by comparison, suppose you’d say he isn’t good enough for our midfield by that metric?

WengerEagle

Akilan

He’s just a steady eddie holding midfielder, Schalke is definitely his level.

Holtby was arguably a better player even.

Akilan

WE,
Stats suggest us that he’ll be the most capable defensive midfielder in the club if he joins us. Do you agree mate?

WengerEagle

Charlie

I’m not relying on them though, I think that stats are a great way to back arguments about players, otherwise it’s just subjective differences of opinion that would go around in circles.

WengerEagle

Akilan

Possibly, yes.

Can we bring in a better player than Meyer?

Absolutely.

If we’re clearing out Xhaka and Elneny then I could see the logic, we all know that ain’t happening though so I’d rather a better midfielder.

Akilan

WE,
As he’s 22, there is scope for improvement, right? Do you think he’ll never reach a level higher than holtby’s?

Michael24

Utarse

“So if they all grew bollocks, it would look like a PR disaster for the club”

Grow some balls? Lol!! STH’s are more concerned with their own little worlds of fringe benefits, rather than the greater needs of the club.

JAMES WOOD

Sing Wenger a song?
ARE YOU SURE.
How many swear words can you get in one chorus.
A F****** song unbelievable.

Akilan

So if we sign him for free AND bring in a replacement for Xhaka(Fabinho, Kovacic) wouldn’t our MF will be better?

Champagne Charlie

Weagle But stats don’t consider a lot of things, and there are no stats for observance of players in some facets. Explain the statistics that demonstrate the following two scenarios: 1. Your CM plays a 5 yard pass to his teammate, stays in place, ball comes back to him a couple of passes later where he passes it off again. 2. Your CM plays a 5 yard pass to his teammmate, sprints forward on the angle 10 yards and receives the ball via a layoff where he’s now able to find a teammate in an advanced position. Scenario 1 is… Read more »

kel

I wouldn’t hire Allegrie, he lost to real Madrid twice and this might be the 3 time. He just an upgrade to Wenger.
The Man we should be targeting is Jardim, he’s young and dynamic, love young players, likes attacking football, and can scrap a system and build a new one. Monaco lost a lot of players last season BUT he has turned them around with new players. need I say more

WengerEagle

Charlie Ok but that’s why we have key passes, through balls, etc. Put it this way, if you were to list players that you believed were the best dribblers in the world, the stats would back it up. Same for creative players, same for goalscorers. I’d be with you if it were more in relation to defenders, as it is a much more difficult metric to assess through stats as their primary good work is done off the ball. Perfect example being Maldini, who didn’t even average 1 tackle a match throughout his career. For ball dominant players, namely midfielders… Read more »

WengerEagle

Akilan

Yes, do you see us bringing in 2 midfielders though and offloading Xhaka who was a big money signing in 2016 or Elneny who recently signed a new contract if I;m not mistaken?

Michael24

STH’s

Ask yourself this. Would you rather keep your ST’s and Wenger stays at the club, OR, cancel you ST and a new manager comes in?

Difficult, I know. One involves regression, the other progression.

We all have an emotional attachment except some would rather put their own selfish needs and benefits, before those of the clubs

Michael24

Juventus 2 RM 2.
Sevilla 1 BM 3.

HighburyLegend

“Can we bring in a better player than Meyer?
Absolutely.”

With kim jong staying ?? “Yes we can!!”

WengerEagle

Surprised so many are giving Juventus such a chance after the way the Spuds outplayed them barring that 5 minute horror show in the 2nd leg.

Real madrid dominated a much better PSG midfield in the 2nd leg, they’re going to school Bentacur, Matuidi and the woefully static Khedira.

Expect Real to at least score 2 away goals, Ronaldo for sure on the scoresheet.

If I had to call it, a 2-1 win for Madrid.

WengerEagle

Fred off of Shakhtar is an interesting midfield option, more so than Meyer for me.

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

No I’m not talking key passes, I’m saying what statistical reference point considers a players movement to better receive the ball? There’s none.

Both scenarios have the CM playing two complete passes. Difference being the second scenario the player sprinted 10 yards in anticipation of his teammates pass and enabled fluid football. That’s what I’m getting at.

Same way there’s no stats to depict a players on field personality or how they affect their teammates in terms of motivation. There nothing to quantify tactical awareness or degree of difficulty in passes completed/attempted.

mysticleaves

That Allegri quote just goes to show how adaptable on the field of play he is. Switched on enough to realise when his game plan is not going well and make a change in match. That’s excellent awareness and tactical flexibility

WengerEagle

Charlie

Meyer’s not a give and go player so the point is a bit moot, isn’t it?

I do understand your argument though re stats in a wider picture, to dismiss them isn’t helpful either though.

For me it’s about finding a balance between the eye test and statistical data.

WengerEagle

mystic

Ok but again, it’s about finding a balance.

Stats are important, as is the eye test.

Akilan

Two weeks back I was confident. Now I’m afraid we’re stuck with Xhaka for 1 more year. We needed a new MF altogether. If Ramsey decides to leave, I’m sure we will bring in a big money signing.

Swapping Jack for Max is an improvement, defensively. Maybe the money will be spent on better signings elsewhere like CB, Winger, Goalie all just as important positions. I will be even more disappointed if we bring in someone like doucoure.

Samesong

I see Juve getting battered tonight aging side.

UTarse

Michael24,
Not this ST holder mate, as you will see in little p’s constant reference to me ( I think he’s besotted with me boycotting the stadium), I won’t go as long as le fraud is manager….. although it appears that more and more fans are starting to boycott or at least can’t be arsed to go to games and hopefully the trend will continue. The football club in its current regime is not Arsenal, it’s Arsene FC.

Akilan

WE,
Fred is off to city, I guess.

WengerEagle

Yeah Samesong, 2.5/1 are extremely generous odds for RM.

Champagne Charlie

Weagle Mate nobody is dismissing them. Is this idea about Ramsey “destroying Meyer in attacking stats” that doesn’t sit well with me. Meyer is a give and go type, he’s very mobile and that was his game when he played further forward. Seems his manager found him a niche from deep, because he’s become incredibly good at spotting danger and anticipating passes which is why his interceptions are so high. Xhaka is the only CM at the club who penetrates midfield in possession. That is crucial to how we play, so having someone like Meyer on board who can essentially… Read more »

Doublethink

Fabinho’s a dead ball specialist?

Samesong

Alaba or Marcelo WE? Both world class left backs

WengerEagle

Marcelo, by far.

Isn’t close imo.

WengerEagle

He’s comparable to Roberto Carlos, for me he’s actually better going forward but not as good defensively as RC was.

Samesong

I agree.

WengerEagle

Charlie

Even going by the eye test, Ramsey is far mor dangerous than Meyer is going forward.

One of his best attributes is his ability to spot those late runs into the box which isn’t even transferable into stats.

He’s more of a goal threat, more creative and causes the opposition more problems.

mysticleaves

WE, Marcelo is better but it’s close. Alaba is world class

WengerEagle

What I love about Marcelo as well is he steps his game up the better the opposition.

He was MOTM in the UCL QF 2nd leg vs Bayern Munich last season, put up absurd numbers and ran their defense ragged.

Was also great vs Atletico in the Semi’s and Juventus in the Final.

Frank Mc

Yeah if it wasn’t for stats you’d get some leg dragger saying Neymar is log…… #justsaying.

WengerEagle

mystic

Not for me.

Alaba’s quality but he’s nowhere near Marcelo, the latter is the best attacking left back I’ve ever seen.

Alaba’s more versatile maybe and shades him defensively but going forward they are worlds apart and in terms of importance to their teams.

Marcelo is RM’s most indispensable player.

WengerEagle

Hahaha Frank makes a great point!

mysticleaves

In all honesty, Ramsey shits on Max Meyer attacking wise. Which is precisely why Meyer should be bought. A CM that plays like a CM is what a two man midfield needs.

HighburyLegend

“Ok but again, it’s about finding a balance.”

Nope, it’s about finding mental strength.

Michael24

Utarse

Read the question again.

So you would keep your ST even though it means Wenger stays?

In a way, it was a sort of hypothetical question. If you gave up on your ST, Wenger would go and a new manager comes in.

Obviously more important to you that Arsenal continue to underachieve, retain your ticket, but Wenger stays(indefinitely).

If it meant Arsenal progressing and you not being there, surely there’s no argument.

Remember, even though you’re not attending matches, you’re still investing in the club.

mysticleaves

Indispensable in what way? No defensive player in both Madrid or barca can claim to be indispensable because most of their game revolves around the attack and not defense. Stick another LB and he will do just fine (Theo had a marvelous game vs las palmas). He is a wonderful attacker but not much of a defender for me. Alaba is more rounded IMO. Can be as dependable in attack as in defense.

I still agree though that due to his superior attacking plays Marcelo is better but not miles ahead

UTarse

Michael24,
I was replying to your first reference to me.

And yes I would sacrifice my tickets if it meant le cunt would leave my club. I have been a ST holder for 18 years.

As for your 2nd point, we see things differently, the money they get from ST sales means fuckall if the stadium is empty and sponsors start knocking on the door. Hypothetically, if the next 3-4 home games had an attendance (real ) of 20k, I think you’ll find that will be far mor damaging in the short run.

WengerEagle

mystic But that’s my point though, Marcelo is so much more than simply a LB, I’d go as far to say I’ve never seen a full-back so integral to a system and a team as he is. He literally patrols that entire left flank himself providing width and pentration from wide areas, Ronaldo spends most of his time in central areas getting on the end of crosses/passes. Real Madrid would find it virtually impossible to replace Marcelo with a like for like because there simply is no other LB out there with his capability to dominate an entire area of… Read more »

mysticleaves

Michael 24

You do realise that Wenger’s monthly salary can buy at least 283 STs? If it ever became a yardstick for his sack, he would discreetly buy enough to placate the board and keep him in a job

Champagne Charlie

Weagle Ramsey isn’t creative whatsoever from deep, that’s the comparison here….not in an advanced role. Meyer is targeted to play as a deep lying player who initiated attacks. He’s leagues better than Ramsey here because that’s not Ramsey’s skill set by a long way. This is the trouble comparing players uncovers. It goes from an apples to apples scenario to an apples to oranges. Meyer is a better CM/deep midfielder than Ramsey. When you start asking about goal threat then you’re shifting the focus of the argument imo. A deep midfielder/CM for us needs to be able to recycle the… Read more »

mysticleaves

WE

I have to agree on your last post re Marcelo

TR7

Marcelo is a terrific terrific player. One of the greats of modern era. I said it a few days ago and will reiterate that without him Ronaldo wouldn’t score as many goals as he does. Covers the entire left flank enabling Ronaldo to hang on the shoulders of defenders for crosses and passes. Benz as well enables Ronaldo to score a lot of goals.

mysticleaves

CC, exactly my point as to why I would like us to buy Meyer. Hes a deep lying midfielder. Nobody in our team has his skill set, been Wilshere.

mysticleaves

*not even wilshere

TR7

Can Modric be talked in the same breath as Xavi? I am not sure myself but will like to know what you guys think.

mysticleaves

TR

I think, as with big teams, and because Madrid is Madrid, teams don’t largely exploit the space Marcelo leaves behind. He plays with the kind of freedom that can’t be punished largely because teams he faces can’t punish it. Hes not sooo wonderful in the tougher matches where he is more responsible and his mistakes are always exploited.

WengerEagle

mystic

Their longevity is kind of impressive given the cut-throat nature of the Perez led Real Madrid Galactico culture.

Marcelo is their for a decade, Ramos even longer think he’s at 13 years.

Ronaldo and Benzema are both fast approaching their 10th year there.

Varane 7 years, Modric 6 years, Isco/Bale/Carvajal almost 5 years.

Casemiro is the only real addition that they’ve made in recent years and even he has been a RM player since 2013.

Suggests that they’ve bought extremely well this past half dozen years.

WengerEagle

Spot on TR7.

mysticleaves

“Can Modric be talked in the same breath as Xavi? I am not sure myself but will like to know what you guys think.”

Yes absolutely. Modric earned a move to Madrid because he was world class at Spuds. Could have fitted in that barca team and also make them tick.

mysticleaves

WE, yeah I think Marcelo is the assistant captain ahead of Ronaldo

WengerEagle

‘ Hes not sooo wonderful in the tougher matches where he is more responsible and his mistakes are always exploited.’

MOTM vs Bayern Munich last season, he’s played stormers in the UCL knckouts.

WengerEagle

‘He’s a more advanced player being shoehorned in deep because he’s not as good as the attacking talent we have in what would be his primary role.’

By the same principle, Meyer isn’t the best player that we could acquire or close to it, so why not sign someone better?

We shouldn’t be fishing for freebies, we’re absolutely loaded to the gills.

WengerEagle

TR7

I don’t think that Modric is quite at that level, Xavi and Iniesta were the two best midfielders of their generation by a distance and showcased a level of midfield superiority that I didn’t even think was possible, prime Barcelona simply overwhelmed teams.

But Modric definitely deserves huge props, as does Kroos. Best midfield in the game today.

Michael24

Mysticleaves

You obviously feel Wenger is capable of going out and purchasing 283 ST’s to keep himself in a job?

Jesus, what have we done to deserve this?

Michael24

Anyone on here going to Moscow?

TonyD

Great post Pedro

Emiratesstroller

Much has been discussed today about our midfield. We know that there is uncertainty, because surely Cazorla’s contract will not be extended and Wilshere can leave on Bosman this summer. Ramsey has only one more season left on his contract. So realistically we need at least one or two new replacements to come into first team squad. Maitland-Niles could conceivably take one of those replacements but I doubt that he is ready to play regularly in that position as a starting CMF particularly against top opposition. Some posters have discussed Meyer as an option. Personally I don’t know enough about… Read more »

Michael24

Pedro Yep, excellent post. We can make some excuses in respect to SK’s role in all of this, nevertheless, it is only minimal in comparison to Wenger’s mismanagement of the club(team) since our move to the Emirates. Kroenke has sanctioned more than enough financial ammunition over the past twelve years to justify a far better return than Wenger has delivered. We all know that. Tactical ineptitude/motivational and leadership skills/player recruitment/ contractual issues etc are all down to Wenger. I suppose if Kroenke had interfered in things as much as RA at Chelski, things would have been different. However, as SK… Read more »

Michael24

Cech has passed his sell by date imo and although I like Ospina, a little flaky for my liking.

Martinez and Macey should be given a chance. Martinez looked good whenever he played. Macey is a monster at 1.98m but is very agile. Made a stunning save earlier in the season(can’t remember who it was against). These guys are on the books, so give them a chance.

Michael24

Remember Wenger has no idea about goalkeepers and defensive structure.

I was sceptical about Cech when he came as , ever since his head injury, you could see he was not quite the same player.

Bamford10

Marcelo is fantastic, world class. No question. One potentially interesting question, though, would be to compare him to other great defenders from this generation. For example, who is the better player/defender, Marcelo or Dani Alves? Or what about Marcelo vs. Sergio Ramos? Who is the better player/defender?

Bob N16

Still feel Kroenke gets off too lightly. He has the power to affect change, no one else. Some posters want me and others, to give up season tickets as if this sacrifice, because it would certainly feel like that, would make a difference. With the odd exception, people suggesting this don’t appear to have season tickets themselves. I know it means you can’t practise what you preach if you haven’t got a ST but I for one don’t like being told what to do. Certainly by a keyboard warrior who’s telling me give up on my beloved Arsenal and hanging… Read more »

Leedsgunner

If Wenger stays it will be another season of meaningless. He could spend £1 billion on new players this summer and we wouldn’t win the league.

In contrast if the club woke up from its self induced sleep and fired Arsene it would be a statement of intent — an action akin to spending a billion in the transfer market.

It would be interesting to see what a modern tactically astute manager would be able to do with this same group of players.

Who will have the courage to dream at Arsenal once more?

Bamford10

Stats are very useful, but they are never the whole story of a player or of a performance and there are a good many limitations to them.

In the end, a good assessment of a player or of a performance requires both the qualitative — i.e., watching the player or performance with one’s own eyes — and the qualitative — i.e., looking at the stats.

Both are required.

Bamford10

Sorry, it should be “and the quantitative”.

Champagne Charlie

“By the same principle, Meyer isn’t the best player that we could acquire or close to it, so why not sign someone better?We shouldn’t be fishing for freebies, we’re absolutely loaded to the gills.“ We’re loaded to the gills? Sure about that? We sold Coquelin in Jan, no midfield replacement. We sold Theo, Alexis, and Giroud replacing with 2 attackers. So we’re 2 bodies lighter than Jan alone. It sounds a bit like you’re turning your nose up at a player for being free. I can give you one word to the idea “we can buy better”….budget. Signing Max Meyer… Read more »

James wood

Think we need a Thumbs up – Thumbs down Pedro
for repetitive posting.
I have seen this on other financial posts is that possible.?

TR7

Bamford

Marcelo and Alves have undoubtedly been the best two full backs in the world along with Lahm in the last decade or so. Marcelo still edges it for me,he is a beast going forward.

Marcelo Vs Ramos is easier. Marcelo every single day of the week. You can replace Ramos with Thiago Silva, Godin, Alderweirald,Chilleni,Bonnuci, Komapany and it wouldn’t make much of a difference to Madrid at least from defense point of view. In atttack Ramos does score very important goals but still he is replaceable.How many guys can replace Marcelo? I can’t think of a single player.

Pierre

Michael 24 in conversation with Ufraud

“Remember, even though you’re not attending matches, you’re still investing in the club.”

Exactly… Ufraud is paying the wages of a man (Wenger) he hates more than anyone in this world… As Alanis Morissette once said “isn’t it ironic”

alexanderhenry

Pedro What happened to all the optimism? Good post anyway. To quote you: ‘I’d imagine from Stan’s point of view, he’s likely having a heart attack at the investment he has to make on his $4.9b stadium in LA, along with all the costs of the staff… the idea of hiring in a new manager who comes with ambition at Arsenal might not feel too appetising (also, take a moment to let that Reddit link sink in. Stan turned us into a poverty joke for 5 years, not laying out a penny while we were cash poor, now he’s racking… Read more »

Pierre

Michael 24 in more conversation with Ufraud

“Obviously more important to you (Ufraud) that Arsenal continue to underachieve, retain your ticket, but Wenger stays(indefinitely).”

Exactly

Champagne Charlie

Pjanic missing for Juve, let’s see what that does to their fluency in CM.

He’s exactly the type of player we miss in the middle.