Arsenal, a bit sh*t, but is it part of a broader strategy? (serious)

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It feels so good for football to be back.

It feels even better to deliver a hammer blow to Paul Lambert’s Stoke in controversial circumstances. I mean, the penalty we were awarded wasn’t really that controversial, I thought Ozil was crunched in the box and the challenge from behind was certainly reckless.

The cooly slotted penalty reassured me Aubameyang is indeed the absolute man.

The man from Gabon dropped his second shortly after, smashing an outside of the boot low drive across goal. The Ozil corner nodded on from Mustafi at the front post felt like peak George Graham. You know it wasn’t planned, but one can dream.

The final goal gave me all the feels – like a young millennial seeing The Notebook for the first time. The cute story goes like this:

Lacazette who has been injured for months comes on, he plays real good, then he’s felled in the box. Everyone was like, OMG, and so was the ref. He gives a penalty. Aubameyang was on a hattrick, everyone expected him to take the kick, but he said, ‘no damn way babes, you take this.’

Laca steps up, buries it, and the whole world suddenly realises Pedro’s post about looking after those in need actually impacted player behaviour on the pitch. Un-fucking-real. Leftwing snowflake liberalism in full effect. What a moment.

The game played out, the fans left happy, Arsene Wenger racked up a 4th win in a row.

Was it a great game? No. It was utter shite. The first half was one of the flattest I’ve endured in a while. Simply put, we were clueless. Bereft of structure, character and desire. Stoke pressed us a little, and we fell apart. You can say the players were thinking about Thursday, but let’s be honest here, we’re 6th in the league in April, the issue of being predictably susceptible to a press is not new, and managements failure to counter the problem is why we’re so poor. Talent isn’t the issue. It’s the way the coach plans how we play.

Another issue we’ve suffered all season has been that we don’t supply our forwards with service. How can that be? We have Mesut Ozil, a player our fan base seems to think is the greatest creative talent in the world outside Messi. We have Jack Wilshere, the great white hope of English football, the man fans think will save our World Cup. We also have Aaron Ramsey, Roy of the Rovers extraordinaire, a stats god, a man with more untapped potential than a Zizou/Henry genetic engineering project perfectly executed.

How can we have a midfield with so much individual creative talent… yet we can’t pick out two of the most prolific strikers in Europe against a Stoke side so poor they’d conceded 58 goals before today?

Imagine what a good manager could do with the talent we have…

Still, the reality is we’re at the stage of the season Jose’s United was this time last season. Out of the mix for Europa places in the league, no chance of top 4. Our big bet is the next 5 games in the Europa League where we can make the Champions League via the back door. Do games like today even matter? Surely the only point is to survice 6th place and keep everyone fit? If Jose was doing this, the media would be celebrating him as a wily old fox.

A lot of fans dodged the game yesterday, it was brutally apparent on the TV. I saw a prominent AFC journo slate them.  A person whose main job perk over the last 30 years has been free tickets, expensed travel, and a complimentary sandwich platter on arrival. A statement of Bill Gates richness when you consider his role as the chief enabler of the ‘careful what you wish for’ narrative that’s once again served the paying fans a shit sandwich so grim, they’d rather stay at home than go to an event they’ve paid for.

Also, highlighting Newcastle fans as a bastion of great fandom? Please, they’re the biggest fucking myth in football. They bully managers out of the club, their fans have been top of the league for the most banning orders 3 seasons in a row, and they engage in all the same bullshit we do online and in the ground that we do (protests/banners). See how banging their attendances would be if they’d been forced to deal with 10 years of Steve Mcclaren.

Arsenal fans spend huge amounts on their season tickets, roughly double what Geordies pay. Factor in the cost of travel, eating, and drinking…  well, you have quite the expense. Arsenal offer up a toxic match day experience because they don’t match the effort for fans, yet promise them the world ever year. The club has no ambition. The only person who is important at Arsenal is the manager. He’s failing. Fans have known he’s failing for 5 years (some, 10). But he’s kept on. Who wants to put themselves in financial trouble for a serving of average in a season that’s basically over?

Also, fans are critiqued for protesting, critiqued for being negative online, critiqued for not going to games. We can’t win. Maybe we’re too soft. Maybe we should be a little more like Geordies, who statistically specialise in being aggressive and hounding out managers they don’t like. Funny how when you’re northern, that’s salt of the earth behaviour, but when you’re southern, it’s a different narrative.

Big question I ask myself is this… how long are Sky going to keep playing us live when our ground is so visibly empty? If a fan that spends £2k on a season ticket would rather go fishing than watch Arsenal, why would anyone tune in on TV? All a bit Serie A… not a good look for Stan, who is too wrapped up in making the LA Rams elite. Still, at least Wenger was on point with his excuse.

“It’s just the fact it’s Easter and people have been away.

That’s me done for today.

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Boomslang

here

Boomslang

for

Boomslang

the

MrT

Hello

Bankz

Bankz

grooveydaddy

4th

Bankz

Legrove gets more and more competitive by the day while Arsenal under Wenger gets shitier and shitier every day.
Lol
Nice one guys

Boomslang

MrT, that’s highway robbery.

MrT

Lollll @ Boomslang highway robbery :))))
If by some miracle we win the Europa League. Then we just may have saved next season but if we don’t win Europa and keep Wenger? Guys forget it. Next season we will finish 10th on the league table.

Leftsidesanch

Scarily hilarious and deluded quote from Wenger in regards to Easter.

I shouldn’t be surprised but still find myself just that.

Michael24

Pedro

“Maybe we’re too soft”.

You’ve hit the nail on the head there Pedro!

Arsenal fans are unique, but only in the negative sense.

We plod along accepting the norm, content with the averageness of it all. We accept the experience, the cost, the complete and utter drudgery , but most of all we accept having a humbug as a leader.

No other fanbase would have sat back as we have over the past decade without ruffling a few feathers.

What a disgrace we are.

bennydevito

Morning Grovers, Great post Pedro and your point about Sky screening our games with empty stadiums is a good one – how does tv revenue work? Divided equally amongst all 20 teams or is it proportionate based on appearances? I wondered why Auba didn’t go for the hattrick, but seeing as Lacazette was the one who earnt it and was fresh back from injury, it was a great selfless team gesture and perhaps one that will give Lacazette some confidence that Auba hasn’t come to replace him and that they can forge a great partnership. Off to listen to the… Read more »

steve

So Wenger is just going to use a new excuse for the low attendance for every home game from now on? What a pathetic fucking cunt.

Emiratesstroller

I made it clear in my last post on previous thread that there were not 50,000 spectators in the stadium. It might have been 40-45,000. The fact is where I sit most of the regulars did not turn up and I have been to only 4 games since mid December. The only occasion when regulars who sit around me turned up was against AC Milan. When you speak to these supporters their absence is not down to a protest, but rather the quality of the team’s football and entertainment value. Yesterday I left the stadium after 65 minutes and that… Read more »

ArseneisaFraud

Imagine what a good manager could do with the talent we have…

This is what I have always believed. There are good players beneath all that crap out there waiting to be properly drilled and become a team with ambituon, worth watching and see winning.

But do we really want to keep on accepting being served this shit sandwich week in week out ? I don’t.

But I just wish we didn’t have to wait forever for AW to leave. Please can someone dissuade AW to not try and beat SAFs’ managerial longevity record?

WENGER OUT!

gonsterous

2019 can’t come soon enough. people who think wengers going to leave are deluded. the only way leaves is if there’s an outburst from fans.. anyone see that happening ?? no ? well onto next season then….

Bamford10

Great post, Pedro.

Bamford10

Pierre I have no idea why you are arguing that Xhaka came on yesterday and made a profound difference in our play, in our midfield. He didn’t. And btw, Elneny had a good game. I don’t know that Xhaka was better than Elneny yesterday, though I will grant that he might have been better than Wilshere (who was a little ineffectual?). Regardless, maybe someone could post some Xhaka and Elneny “highlights” from yesterday so that we can review and scrutinize the tape. However, having watched the game, I don’t get where this Xhaka-came-on-and-changed-things narrative is coming from. Maybe Champagne is… Read more »

Dissenter

Officiating has been universally sub-par this season. It’s no wonder that no officials from the richest professional league were selected to participate in the WC. At least we won’t be getting stupid condescending articles from UK sporting tabloids about the quality of other countries referees. This weekend the officiating of the Liverpool vs Palace game was horrible, Mane should have been sent off for a second yellow card for grabbing the ball, the law is crystal clear yet the official choked. Erik Lamela, the Argentine thug should have been sent off as well for several stamps on Fabregas, the official… Read more »

Dissenter

Pierre
“I have said for a while, we should copy the Tottenham model in midfield in that their 2 central midfielders are never ahead of the ball, the play is always in front of them, meaning they are in control of the game and give a balance and solidity to the side”If anyone else had written that “we should copy the Tottenham model “, you would be using a flame thrower to burn them by now..
You’re such a bloody hypocrite around these parts..

Bamford10

Elmo Don’t lose faith that we could be rid of Wenger this summer. While the end of this season might be more favorable to him than the first half of the season, we’ll still finish in sixth, we’ll still be missing out on £40m in CL money for a second year in a row, and another season under Wenger will mean finishing outside of the top four and missing out on that money for a third year in a row. That is a total of £120m in money he will have cost the club; this is real money, and it… Read more »

Bob N16

For me, Aubemayang replacing Welbeck out wide and Lacazette arriving in the middle was the significant change. Ozil woke up and then when Mkhitaryan arrived, suddenly a tiring Stoke couldn’t cope.

JAMES WOOD

First post today Bamford rubs up to Pedro.
Second post he’s Baiting Champagne.

This guy just cannot stop.
A real EEL -OR IN MY EYES ONE SLIPPERY BARSTAFF.

Pierre

Bamford.
He was better than Ramsey that’s for sure.

HillWood

If by some miracle Wenger wins Europa League And makes next years CahapionsLeague, what’s the point?
Apart from the extra dosh
Does anyone him expect him to improve on the last seven (or more) years?

Bamford10

Regarding the question of whether we will have to endure another season of Wenger, it is of the utmost importance that fans continue to stay away, including for this Thursday’s match. If we play Atletico or Leipzig at home in the semis, I think an exception should be made for the sake of the players and that fans should return for that match and just for that match. However, they should stay away for every other home match.

Pierre

Dissenter
Am I wrong or would you rather continue with as we are.

Bamford10

Pierre

That’s utterly ridiculous.

Pierre

Bamford re empty seats
Arsenal fans are not used to watching home games with nothing riding on it (even if it was only for a champions league place)..That and the continued apathy and negativity surrounding the managerial situation at the club.
Will probably be a decent crowd on Thursday though I know of a few people who normally take their kids who won’t go for the fear of crowd trouble from Russian fans.

Pierre

Alan Smith must have had a bet on Ramsey to be voted man of the match yesterday… I had a number of family and friends texting me during the game and the 2 most consistent words were “Ramsey” and “shit”

Rambo Ramsey

Pierre,

Ramsey’s performances against Stoke tend to stir up emotions in people because of the history there.

Get over it already, you obsessive freak.

Frankie Coffeecakes

“Imagine what a good manager could do with the talent we have…”

Thats all anyone can do these days cause sure as shit Wenger’s going nowhere, and that may be for a long time to come.

Bamford10

James

Get a grip, guy. One, this is a good post. And many people say “good post” when they rate one of Pedro’s pieces; this is called showing some appreciation for the work he puts into the blog. Two, I was being playful with the comment to Pierre re Champagne; I wasn’t trying to dig out Champagne.

I am tempted to offer a few choice words to describe what I think of you and your “contributions” here, but I will be nice and simply say that I think you have misunderstood my post. Cheers.

Rambo Ramsey

‘You’re such a bloody hypocrite around these parts..’

What he is is a second-rate troll

Bamford10

Pierre

Then your friends are infected with the same illness some others here are: for the moment I’ll call this sickness “Bad-Ramsey-itis”. This illness causes the sufferer to see “Bad Ramsey” when “Bad Ramsey” isn’t even on display. Ramsey was good yesterday —- even if he didn’t follow some people here’s instructions on how to play his position — and he was personally responsible for some of the nicer moments of the match. His two Cruyff turns, for example. You anti-Ramsey lot need to get a grip as well.

Pierre

“. His two Cruyff turns”

I must have blinked.

Pierre

Bamford

“good Ramsey”.
“bad Ramsey”

What about “shit Ramsey”

Bamford10

Reports continue to link us with Wilfred Ndidi. What do people think of this guy? A little rough around the edges, maybe, first touch a little unreliable at times, but could develop into precisely the kind of defensive CM we need, I think. Transfermarkt has him at £16m at the moment.

HillWood

Champions League

raptora

With all due respect in that sh*tty, boring, tedious, anti-football, anti-human first half Ramsey was the only one who actually tried to do ANYTHING football related. Guy should be given a medal for it. Also to all of us who resisted the urge to end their lives prematurely.

James wood

Bamford.
Your sarcasm seems to be Incessant, your constant put downs of other posters views I find irritating.
You seem like you need to right on all matters.?
I enjoy the blog and post seldomly..
As regards your opening remarks today to Champagne being banter
well only you would be privy to that.
Have I misunderstood you -well I doubt it.
I will leave it there.

Dissenter

Alan Pardew leaves West Brom after just one win and eight points from 18 Premier League matches in charge

It’s impossible to forget all those years that Pardew was yelling from the mountain top that British coaching talent were being denied opportunities.
It’s obvious that the reason young British managers won’t get their opportunities is because doucebags like Pardew continue to clog up the system.
I’m sure he will meritoriously get another appointment soon.

Bamford10

James

Well, I assure you that it really was just playful banter. Beyond that, I will do what I can to irritate your ilk less, but in the end I must be me. Cheers.

Dissenter

Bamford,
Ndidi won’t be sold by Leicester, he’s a starter for them and the transfer quote is clearly wrong.
He’s better off goinh some where else that he can continue to start games. There’s no point coming to Arsenal when the Ramsey/Xhaka/Wilshere debate is going on.
Frankly until we let go of any two of the flawed midfield trio, we should stop dropping names.

Bamford10

raptora

Good post.

Bamford10

Dissenter

OK, except that Ndidi might be the kind of player who can settle that debate, whether in one direction or the other. For example, those who like Xhaka might see Ndidi playing alongside Xhaka with Ozil or Ramsey in front of them. Or those who dislike Xhaka might see Ndidi playing alongside Ramsey with Ozil in front of them. Or maybe they see Ndidi + a new CM with Ozil or Ramsey in front of them.

I guess my q is whether people think he’s good enough for our XI, as he is definitely being linked with us.

HighburyLegend

“It just the fact it’s Easter and people have been away.”

Did he really said that ??
Ffs…

Dissenter

Bamford
My point is that Ndidi will be ruined if he’s just benched for Xhaka or Wilshere because they have more confidence from Wenger. He’s the type of player that has to play to get better.
We have to let any two of Ramsey/Wilshere/Xhaka leave for any midfielder to work at Arsenal.

Is he good enough?
Of course he is but it depends on what we want him for. It’s the same as erroneously trying to use Xhaka as a box to box CMF.

S Asoa

Maybe we are too soft…
Actually we are flaccid- succinctly put, no pleasure , no use. Just plain AKB

Samesong

I am always doing that which I cannot do, in order that I may learn how to do it. – Pablo Picasso

Which players does this quote reference in our team?

Champagne Charlie

“Maybe Champagne is paying you to say this?“

Zzzz..

Bore off with the “banter” remark. You were unequivocal the other day stating I’M the biggest problem on Le Grove, don’t now pretend you were engaging in playful banter because someone told you to reel it in.

Stick to football, because you sure as hell need to learn a few things on that subject.

Champagne Charlie

Arsenal are a bit of a nothingness right now understandably. For me yesterday saw further examples of some of the following: – Elneny is tidy, but isn’t a first XI player – Bellerin is Theo II, all athleticism and little football nous – Ramsey at CM is a square peg for a round hole – we need a GK – Jack doesn’t warrant more than being offered – Not having Welbz/Iwobi wide is the way to go A bit Debbie I know, but I look at us needing to have a big summer and prefer to be a bit on… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Bamford10 Sorry but Elneny is a Championship standard midfield player. He looks always to be busy and full of energy, but the reality is that he plays one pace football and most of his passes are short and either backwards or square. That was not how we should have been playing yesterday against Stoke who are second bottom in EPL with virtually no threat up front. Butland did not have a proper shot to save in first half and Welbeck and Aubameyang received hardly a pass in the first 45 minutes. Ramsey might get onto the bench of one of… Read more »

Danny

Butland did not have a proper shot to save in first half
——————————-
Didn’t Ramsey hit the bar?

Michael24

Amazing!!

Wenger thinks because it was Easter and Arsenal are faltering in the League, the fans are staying away.

Sorry Arsene, the main reason that fans are turning their backs on the club is because they are bored senseless by you, your predictable rhetoric, your useless tactics, your BS and your mere presence.

Fact, if a new manager had arrived on Good Friday, 60000 would have turned up for the game.

Now just piss off and leave us be.

HillWood

I wonder if Wenger is aware of the existence of Le Grove and has an occasional sneaky peak

Frankie Coffeecakes

“I wonder if Wenger is aware of the existence of Le Grove and has an occasional sneaky peak”

Hahahahahahahaha!

Frankie Coffeecakes

Wenger cant relate to working class stiffs, HillWood.

Frankie Coffeecakes

Pardew and West Brom parting ways by mutual consent. These are words you will never see or hear in relation to Arsene Wenger, “By Mutual Consent”.

UTarse

Pedro,
Best post for a while, spot on. Unfortunately I’m starting to think that he serves his last year of the contract no matter what happens, 6th and CSKA defeat will make not a jot of difference.

Michael24

HillWood

Lol!!

Wenger has zero self awareness, so there’s absolutely no chance of that.

Akilan

Emirates, You’re a bit harsh on Elneny, mate. I understand he has his limitations, but it was not like he was the only reason for our shiteness. The likes of Ramsey, Jack and Ozil is one paced too and don’t offer dynamism and try to do the same thing with varied success rate. The midfield was congested and we had no outlets. Our only outlet HB usually receives the ball, checks his run and passes the ball back to Jack or Elneny. I genuinely thought Welbeck hid from the ball and lost it, made wrong decisions or executed poorly when… Read more »

Marko

For me yesterday saw further examples of some of the following:– Elneny is tidy, but isn’t a first XI player– Bellerin is Theo II, all athleticism and little football nous– Ramsey at CM is a square peg for a round hole– we need a GK– Jack doesn’t warrant more than being offered– Not having Welbz/Iwobi wide is the way to go Agree. I would also have added for the vast majority of the game the enigma known as Ozil literally didn’t give one single fuck and was pretty shocking. Which is unbelievable when you consider Germany gave him the second… Read more »

HillWood

Pedro
Have you ever met Arsène Wenger to speak to?
If so how does he come across?

Zfree

These are the kind of performances we need from Jack – the kind that make it blatantly obvious we should not budge on the offer (shit, maybe even drop it down to £75k pw). They also make it pretty damn clear that he shouldn’t sniff the starting XI but for injuries or the side competitions.

With nothing left to play for in the league (other than holding off Burnley which is a hilarious thing to be typing), when will we see more Holding, AMN, Reiss Nelson, Eddie? Don’t need to see much more iwobi, jack, Welbeck, etc this season, please.

Champagne Charlie

Zfree

Agreed, would rather see AMN get some games in his preferred CM role for the remaining league games.

Same with Reiss going wide and Eddie getting minutes up top.

Champagne Charlie

Marko

I’m not going to slate Ozil for half arsing a meaningless game. I wouldn’t slate any of them for playing at a pedestrian level in the league frankly.

Much rather they save the legs for the Europa.

James wood

Hill wood.
How does he come across.?
Perhaps right leg over first.:)

Marko

I’m not going to slate Ozil for half arsing a meaningless game. I wouldn’t slate any of them for playing at a pedestrian level in the league frankly. Why not we slate Ramsey and Bellerin for the same thing. I’m not sure why you’re justifiably critical of Ramsey but give Ozil a pass? Ozil showed once again he isn’t dependable for me. Not dependable in big games and you can’t even depend on him to show up against weaker opposition. Only turns up when he wants and considering the empty stadium you’d think that he’d want to put on a… Read more »

Pedro

Hillwood. I have. He has a great presence, he’s very friendly and charming. Really great guy.

Champagne Charlie

Marko I’m not criticising Ramsey and Bellerin based on effort or application. Neither show the relative ability necessary to play their specific roles to the benefit of the team. Bellerin continues to show he’s a speed merchant unable to beat a man and deliver. Ramsey continues to show CM is not where he should be. Ozil playing in 2nd gear isn’t the same criticism, it could be argued they all half arsed it (which I don’t blame as I stated). But if you’re trying to suggest to me that Ozils ability to be a difference maker is a concern in… Read more »

Victorious

pretty clear at this stage the Europa league has much more significance for a variety of reasons compared to the Epl which has us firmly rooted at 6th regardless of our performance for the rest of the season

it becomes logical fans would rather turn up for a Europa league tie as against the deadrubbers EPL matches,simply put,i’d be totally gobsmacked if the turn up doesn’t improve against CSKA

Pierre

Victorious Same.. Will be disappointed if there is not a decent crowd there. It will show how deep the apathy is within the fan base. I think the reason Wenger isn’t using the kids in the prem is because he needs the victories and he rightly or wrongly doesn’t want to risk it. If he wants to get some of the fans back and he isn’t going to play the kids then it would be a good idea to play özil, lacazette, Aubameyang and mkhitarayan from the start as they have shown in the limited time they have played together… Read more »

ArseneisaFraud

Victorious Don’t you think that if good football was on show people would turn up to watch on a regular basis regardless of whether it is a dead rubber? I know I would. (Just in case you don’t know I’ve put my money where my mouth is and cancelled my Red Membership 2 years ago.) For me these type of games will still attract people. The number of times I was able to buy tickets for such games in the past (5-10 years ago) and rarely saw the ground empty then. So for me some Gooners are getting fed up… Read more »

Pierre

Marko

In your expert opinion, looking forward to next season, do you think özil, lacazette, Aubameyang, and mkhitarayan should/could play together.

If so, what type of midfield would you like to see behind them.

If not, who would you play in the final third and what formation.

DaveB666

The classless Stoke fans were out in force again – vile Ramsey chants. Hope they stay in the Championship.

Pierre

Arseneisafraud

The Arsenal crowd at the Emirates have always been apathetic in my opinion.

1)they can’t be bothered to arrive on time for Ko
2)before half time the crowd disappear and normally return 5 minutes after the start of the 2nd half
3) they leave up to ten minutes before the end of the match.

So it should be no surprise that many can’t be arsed to turn up as probably 20% of them miss 20 odd minutes of the game anyway.

Pierre

Arsenaesiafraud “. So for me some Gooners are getting fed up at watching how poorly we play.” There have been a few poor games lately but before Christmas there were some cracking games at the Emirates… Leicester, Liverpool, spurs and man United spring to mind plus Chelsea in the league cup final.. I think it is, amongst other things, to do with the fact there is nothing riding on the games in the prem… Arsenal fans have got used seeing us compete until the end of the season even if it is just for a champions league spot. Also, maybe… Read more »

Michael24

No longer go to games, out of principle, but when I did go, never got to a game late, except the 2007 Carling Cup Final v Chelski(bloody trains!) and have never ever left early.

Too many fans go to games to satisfy their own self esteem and not the genuine love of football.

“Yeh, at least I went to the game, even though I was 20 mins late and left 10 mins early”

PRATS!

Marko

But if you’re trying to suggest to me that Ozils ability to be a difference maker is a concern in this side then you best give that up because I don’t buy it I’m trying to suggest that he only gives a fuck when he wants to give a fuck. What’s the point in having someone who can be a difference maker if he doesn’t show it in big games (City, Cup final, United at home) or against weaker teams (yesterday, away against Brighton/West Brom/Swansea). I mean I’m not questioning his qualities but more his fucking application and fight ffs.… Read more »

champagne charlie

The Emirates crowd experience is fucking tripe, I think we can all agree to that from anyone who’s a goer or been before.

One of my pet hates is the corporate Arsenal view towards match day antics, it’s disgustingly upper class.

We should have two fuck off faux cannons booming either side as the players walking out the tunnels, a singing section, encouragement for participation, booze – its a bloody spectacle!!!!

But nah, we get some fluorescent cunt telling folk to “sit down and watch the game” like it’s the crucible.

Pierre

Michael 24
I think it shows that they are not what I would call proper fans..

I can understand fans leaving a little early to beat the rush but to continually arrive after the KO is pointless.

There is no other club whose ground is still filling up ten minutes after KO..

Those season ticket holders should forego their tickets (Ufraud) to allow new season ticket holders the chance to support the team by at least arriving on time.

Marko

In your expert opinion, looking forward to next season, do you think özil, lacazette, Aubameyang, and mkhitarayan should/could play together.If so, what type of midfield would you like to see behind them. They can play together they probably won’t because there’d be no rotation possible with all your forwards playing at the same time. We still need a legitimate winger. In midfield we need disciplined CM’s with the ability to retain the ball and sit. We don’t need another player bombing forward and being caught out of position (Ramsey) and we can’t play a CM who barely can tackle and… Read more »

champagne charlie

marko

im not going to descend into another ozil debate mate. As I said, if you think we’re even remotely close to worrying whether Ozil is the best fit for CAM at Arsenal I think you’re kidding us on.

The day we’re so finely tuned that we can look at Ozil and judge if we can do better is the day we’re in really good nick. Right now, to moan about Ozil is wilfully ignoring the major deficiencies with the squad/club. Much much bigger fish and all that

Pierre

Marko
The question I asked is do you think özil, lacazette, Aubameyang and mkhitarayan should play up front together and who would you have in midfield supporting them and you started prattling on about özil for some reason.

Taking into account that those 4 will definitely be at the club next season would you buy any midfielders or who would you choose from the current bunch.

Will be interesting to hear you give an opinion.

Colney Gooner

CC 17.10.18
Agree 100%

Pierre

Marko
I think it would be quite easy for those 4 to rotate.. Mkhitarayan and özil can play as the playmaker or out wide and Aubameyang and lacazette can play out wide or up front.

I made the point earlier that we should copy the spurs model of 2 central midfielders who never get ahead of the ball and control the game from the middle of the park and protect the defence

Forgive me if I’m wrong but it looks like, from your previous comment, that you are in agreement with me.

2 holding midfielders is the way forward.

gazzap

Just watched that video from yesterday’s post about Rocastle and Wright. Fantastic to see all that footage again and to hear the way people spoke about Rocky and what the club meant to him and everyone at the time. when you compare that to how the hierachy at Arsenal treat the club now, it makes me angry. I bet Kroenke doen’t have a clue who David Rocastle is. He should be forced to watch every minute of that video. RIP Rocky.

HillWood

Pedro
Thanks for the reply

Michael24

Pierre

Either stay away or go, simple really.

If you go, get their before kickoff and leave after the final whistle, irrespective of score/performance/ personal obligations.

Even when things were not so bad, was always a huge embarrassment to see so many late arrivals and early departures.

Michael24

“get there”

kel

So lacazette plays well against one of the worst teams in the prem and we go on as he’s the real deal. ARE we to forget his noshow against better teams??
He’s a typical arenal player under wenger; good against piss poor teams but crap against teams with a cm of quality

Pierre

CC
Before….özil played with . Walcott, Welbeck, giroud, iwobi and Sanchez.

Now…. Aubameyang, mkhitarayan and lacazette…… More, pace, more skill, technically better with better football brains….

It’s what goes on behind them(central mid) that needs rectifying.

Michael24

Who the hell is the guy on the PA system?

Needs to be put to bed. Boring, predictable and totally humourless. Arsenal disease.

Incapable of drumming up an atmosphere.

Need someone like Ian Wright to crank it up a bit.

Michael24

Kel

Lacazette has qualities. I rate him.

The key to your post “under Wenger”.

Messi “under Wenger” would underachieve.

Marko

Marko The question I asked is do you think özil, lacazette, Aubameyang and mkhitarayan should play up front together and who would you have in midfield supporting them and you started prattling on about özil for some reason. I was talking to Charlie about Ozil jeez. I meant proper rotation I mean if you’re playing all your forwards all the time what happens if one of them gets injured then we’re down to Welbeck and Iwobi. Citing the Spurs model is all well and good but Ozil ain’t Eriksson and Mhiki ain’t Son. By that I mean rarely do you… Read more »

Marko

im not going to descend into another ozil debate mate. Hardly a debate. I’m wondering though how you can complain about Ramsey yesterday but say nothing about Ozil who was just as bad. I mean if the game was irrelevant then again how come Ramsey is criticised? I’m just wondering why he gets a pass for performances like yesterday and there’s been plenty of those types of performances over the last two years especially. Like honestly. It’s not enough to say well other areas and players are much worse so why talk about Mesut. I mean we all know he’s… Read more »

champagne charlie

marko

Eriksen always shows up? Good grief

Pierre

Marko I don’t think spurs attacking 4 are any better than ours. Kane, eriksen, Alli and son/lamella Aubameyang, özil, mihkatarhan and lacazette. Pretty similar in quality…. It’s what behind them that makes them an effective unit 2 attacking full backs…. 2 Holding midfielders….. 2 centre backs. The 2 midfielders are the key to making it work as they will fill in the holes that the full backs leave and you will never, ever see them ahead of the ball. Dembele, this season, no goals, no assists. Says it all really. City’s system is a bit more complex and not as… Read more »

champagne charlie

“I’m wondering though how you can complain about Ramsey yesterday but say nothing about Ozil who was just as bad. I mean if the game was irrelevant then again how come Ramsey is criticised?” Read what I actually write instead of what you think I write for starters, I’ve explained this already. To try and make out like I’m giving Ozil a “pass” is rubbish. I commented on Bellerin and Ramsey because they showed me again they don’t have the tools to play in the roles they currently have at Arsenal. Bellerin has no end product, if there’s any likelihood… Read more »