Tuchel OFF the list – Wenger out of excuses, cites ageism (seriously)

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Nothing more frustrating than the group of journalists who have real sources, with real information, polluting the Arsenal airwaves with accurate stories dispelling the fact that Thomas Tuchel is NOT moving to us this summer.

Sad face.

Still, the great thing is all the names are still being pushed our way. The club hasn’t come out and stated the manager is going to see through the last year of his deal. Also, Wenger is squirming in the media. Talking to his best friends at BEin Sports, he’s now rolling with the ageist argument, which is quite frankly appalling considering he was famously the man who put players over 30 on 1-year deals.

“The older you get, the more it becomes age discrimination. I accept if the results are not good enough then you have to take the consequences,”

“But overall that perpetual thing of how long you have been at a club and how old you are. I find that a bit difficult to take.”

Also, you can’t judge a career over 22 years. This is sport. You’re judged over 2 years at the very max. That Wenger thinks the things he did 14 years ago should make him safe forever is a sad indictment of his arrogance and entitlement.

Wenger should be marching himself out the door this summer, but he won’t, because like all men in power, the crack-cocaine hit of being important is hard to wean yourself off.

My worry is the board at the club lean into his sentimental bollocks.

However, this summer is different because his ivory tower has collapsed around him. He can’t blame a lack of spend, he can’t blame pitiful wages, he can’t blame a lack of support, he can’t blame going into the last year of his deal, he can’t call this season a blip because it’s worse than the last one, and he can’t blame his best players wanting to leave on anything other than his ineptitude. I mean, that’s before getting into the fact that we’ll be out of the Champions League for a second season running.

The manager is turning the fans against their season tickets. He’s taking talented players and killing their careers. He’s losing the club money by spending it badly, not selling when players are at peak, and not making top 4.

There is literally no rational reason for keeping him at the club. That he’s moved into such a dark place of ageism is a positive thing, because it shows he has no coherent argument.

Some people say it’s unfortunate it looks like he’s being hounded out the club, but look, when a dictator won’t leave on peaceful terms, things get ugly. Wenger should have left after the Hull cup final win. He absolutely should have left after the Chelsea cup final. If he wins the Europa League, that is his last chance to exit on a sort of high… but he won’t, he’ll have to be fired.

I am very sure that the club are ready for this. I just hope we don’t fall into a safe managerial signing. If it’s not Tuchel, let’s make it an equally special name. Allegri is the front-runner, Jardim is second, Nagelsmann/Hassnhutl would be my curveball.

Right, that’s me done. Over and OUT.

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111 Responses to “Tuchel OFF the list – Wenger out of excuses, cites ageism (seriously)”

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  1. DM

    Lol Akilan, another photo finish… same time :/

    That’s the first time someone’s stopped me getting it (kinda) when I’ve been online for around 3 weeks I think!

    Nice to have some competition for a change!

  2. DM

    Bankz / everyone

    Tomorrow is my last day on here for a couple of weeks, then I’m off on my hols, so it’s all yours to actually try to win something while I’m gone

  3. Frankie Coffeecakes

    “There is literally no rational reason for keeping him at the club. ”

    Sure there is Pedro, according to Wenger we OWE him for some absurd reason for all that he perceives himself to have delivered. Problem is, Arsenal supporters have selective memories and wax nostalgic for times when things weren’t so rotten. Only when Wenger has completely destroyed everything that was once good will those who idolize him realize they worshipped yet another false God.

  4. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Your kindness and willingness to share Da Trophy DM, sets you apart from others. Truly a kind soul!

  5. HighburyLegend

    @Pedro : concerning the rumor about Tuchel, you didn’t think, just for one minute, that it was too beautiful to be true ??
    (lol)

  6. HighburyLegend

    Mega supra high qualidy top world class player ElNino has extended his contract, God bless Arsène.

  7. Leftsidesanch

    Even Pedro saying what I said in the last post, Wenger is a hypocrite. He surely can’t believe what leaves his mouth.

    The age comment baring in mind his policy on over 30s players is ridiculous.

  8. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Wenger’s comment on ageism is yet another insult to supporters intelligence. As has been on display an awful lot this season, we have yet to realize the truest of lows that this person is willing to go to retain his grasp on power.

  9. JimJam

    Even though some are denying it the bookies have slashed the odds on tuchel best price is 6/4 paddy power is evens and bet Victor 10/11 and we all know the old saying about bookies…

  10. JimJam

    Sorry for the double post but playing devil’s advocate here maybe just maybe Sven and Tuchal had already buried the past feud between them and that’s why we have gone for Miki and Pierre in the last window ready for his arrival and final conspiracy theory the news has leaked 2 early so both camps are getting contacts to deny the story.

  11. Bamford10

    I’m not giving up on Tuchel coming to Arsenal; I don’t care what reports say. I like what I’ve read about this guy.

  12. Bamford10

    TR7

    Totally disagree with you re the DOF role. Modern football is too complicated for a manager to do everything. The manager should focus on training, classroom, tactics, match planning, player development; the DOF should think about transfer business. Yes, the manager should have input on the latter, but his focus should be the former.

    Wenger tried to do everything; he failed.

  13. marcos

    Your Comment Here. What dd tuchel achieve.diiiid he get to CL fiiinal.diid he challenge bayern fr d tiiitle.at worst he won?wats did sentiiiment wt tuuchel.he didn’t eveen get to euurrofa finals.jus vibrant football but no trrofiiies.Damn some choice

  14. Michael24

    There is no limit to the utter shit that excudes from Wenger’s mouth

    “Ageism”, don’t make me laugh. This guy’s legacy has been destroyed.

    What is now clear is that he was probably culpable for only 30% of our success before we moved away from Highbury. 80% was down to the players and their winning mindsets.

  15. mysticleaves

    You all should stop and think a bit. El Neny got a new deal because he actually put in some work and improved. Him renewing is not a worry at all. Hes the kind of player I would want to come off the bench and hold play or the player I play when there’s need for rotation.

    The problem will arise if he becomes a first team player and that’s not happening soon. Max Meyer could still sign and play in the first team. His ceiling is obviously higher than that of Mo’.

    Drinkwater is a 30m pound reserve player the level of El Neny. Actually that’s business like. When you think Chelsea let RLC go who could have done that job for them for free.

    Liverpool spent the 40m on the same level or atleast someone that has the same role as El Neny. etc etc

    Anyone that thinks our squad should be made up of 25 world class players is deluded

  16. mysticleaves

    Marcos, Tuchel won the DFB pokal the season he left. Thats Dortmund’s first and only trophy of any kind since 2013 (5years)

  17. Michael24

    If someone came up to me in the street and offered free tickets to go to the Emirates, all expenses paid, to watch a game, I would not accept.

    The mere thought of trudging along to the stadium to watch the Wenger boys, sickens me.

    My steadfast principles will not be tarnished because of one deluded individual.

    I know there are many others who feel exactly the same.

  18. Marko

    Elneny makes no sense. My only hope is that they kept him on because they plan on replacing Xhaka, Ramsey and Wilshere. My hope

  19. Bob N16

    Surely Michael, 17.18’ players and their mindsets’ are always going to be mostly responsible for the success or failure of any team, 70% if you like.

  20. Champagne Charlie

    Vic

    Would you not have rather seen a player like Meyer join on a bosman and take Elnenys place? Elneny is a good pro, keeps his head down, isn’t flash, but he’s very very ordinary for me.

    Not just his output, but his general potential and ability. He’s an extra body and no more, which is a bit odd in our current climate.

    A bid of 7 mil was accepted for him last summer. Can someone tell me what he’s done to warrant a new deal since?

  21. TR7

    Bamford

    ‘The manager should focus on training, classroom, tactics, match planning, player development; the DOF should think about transfer business. Yes, the manager should have input on the latter, but his focus should be the former.’

    So a DoF is nothing but a negotiator in transfer deals, you just proved my point.

  22. Champagne Charlie

    “You all should stop and think a bit. El Neny got a new deal because he actually put in some work and improved. “

    Care to explain how he’s improved?

    He’s played 569 minutes in the league this season. That’s 6.3 games…

  23. Champagne Charlie

    “I’m not giving up on Tuchel coming to Arsenal; I don’t care what reports say. I like what I’ve read about this guy.“

    I’m sure Tuchel will take that on board in his decision making process….

  24. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Somewhat off-topic, but does anyone else have a bad feeling regarding English supporters heading off to Russia for WC 2018? We could be seeing hooliganism at its worse, from both sides.

  25. Elmo

    It’s a smart move by Wenger. We’re living in the age of the culture wars, and he sees that by tapping into discrimination based upon identity, he can distract attention away from his abject failures and enlist the backing of those for whom anti-discrimination (perceived or real) is more important than anything else.

  26. Elmo

    Frankie

    I don’t think the England fans would dare try it in Russia, especially after what happened in Marseille. I also believe that Putin will demand that he not be embarrassed during the tournament, so the ultras will be aware they have to stand down for this event.

    The worry would be that the Arsenal fans are going to get a kicking in Moscow, with it clear that it’s the last opportunity to smash some English faces before the Russian police become more hard-line for the WC.

  27. mysticleaves

    Charlie

    The el Neny of last season and this season is actually different. Last season he was bland and flat but this season there’s a zip and urgency in his game. He hasn’t played a lot but that’s the idea.

    As for Max Meyer, he’s 22, has a high ceiling and could actually go on and dominate the midfield if he develops the right way. He will disrupt our XI more than Mo will.

    In as much as Mo has renewed (if it’s true) I would still sign Max as I see him as a first team player and not a squadie.

    *I think it was Leicester that bid 10m for him and he decided to stay.

  28. Frankie Coffeecakes

    This is a good point, Elmo. Hopefully nothing will happen to the clubs supporters. In the end its just a game, but then that never stopped some from having any excuse to fulfill an agenda of violence.

  29. Samesong

    The el Neny of last season and this season is actually different. Last season he was bland and flat but this season there’s a zip and urgency in his game.

    The only zip I see with Elneny is his training jacket. The guys basic u hardly notice him playing on the pitch.

  30. Champagne Charlie

    Mystic

    Sorry, not buying that one. Elneny has played 6 games this season in the prem, if he was doing bits he’d play more. He’s a passive player in midfield with no standout characteristics. I like him, I just feel he was an easy upgrade for no capital outlay.

    You idea of designated squad players is archaic to me I have to say. What’s the point in a player like Elneny if not to challenge for a starting spot? That “filler” player is something we’ve stupidly meandered toward.

    Previously our “squad” players were a young Cesc, Edu, Parlour. Each a juggernaut in direct comparison to Elneny. As I say, I appreciate his no fuss attitude and professionalism, but you can get that in a player of substantial quality. Max Meyer wouldn’t command a starting birth at 22, but he’d make it so Ramsey, Xhaka, Jack or whomever is starting would be desperate to remain there.

    Can’t complain Xhaka plays every game and then applaud Elneny signing because he’s a backup and nothing more. Makes no sense.

  31. Michael24

    Frankie Coffeecakes

    All those moronic numpties caught up in the embarrassing scenes in Amsterdam should be sent on a reconnaissance mission, prior to the WC, to try and mend political and sporting relations with Russia.

    On returning to the UK(no chance), strip them of their citizenships and send them off to Australia, where they can learn the finer arts of ball tampering.

    Dickheads, the lot of them!

    I’m with you on this. I fear reprisals in Russia.

  32. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Mystic, I’m trying really hard to believe that Elneny belongs on an Arsenal squad and moreso, has actually earned a contract extension for doing anything other than be a rah rah siss boom bah kinda guy. If being a Wengerized Yes Man gets you the extension and you have no aspirations at being a starter…ah hell, isnt that precisely what Wenger is all about? Surrounds himself with pampered soft players who have next to no ambition to be leaders that get pushed around by teams like Watford.

    Facts are facts, Elneny would be hard pressed to make the starting 11 of a championship or League 1 squad, forget a Premier League squad.

  33. Frankie Coffeecakes

    The entire conversation on trying to make Elneny more than he is, is precisely why Arsenal continues its Flatter to Deceive World Tour. This should not even be a discussion, he’s not a Premier League player!

  34. Akilan

    For those who say Elneny is average and basic, let’s compare him with say Henderson. Do you genuinely believe Henderson is miles better than Elneny? I don’t think so.

    Of course people will bring in stats saying Henderson has X assists more and his pass length is twice of Elneny. But having watched them for a while, I can say they’re pretty much same. Henderson while playing in better systems looks better and may captain England. Whereas Elneny playing without wingers and usually with no outlets look basic. Even Xhaka who looked like Xabi Alonso in Germany plays sideways and backward passes.

    The thing is when Elneny/Xhaka passes the ball to HB, our only outlet most of the time, he generally passes the ball back to them. Mo/GX then plays it to Ozil, who will pass it back to them, having seen no movement. They then pass it back to our CBs. Rinse and repeat. I actually believe even Xabi Alonso would look like a polished Elneny/Xhaka at Arsenal.

    And they are not allowed to shoot from distance, which kinda make them look even more basic. That is another option which simply Elneny can’t use. Otherwise he’ll be dropped. You can’t expect your DM to make Gerrard like passes when he usually has Ramsey, Jack, Ozil, Mkhi, Xhaka ahead of him, with no movement. Arsenal played the first half of the season with no out ball, unless you count Bellerin, who most of the time will pass it back to you. Even arteta and Xhaka looked average with the ball in the Giroud era. I’m pretty sure people rate their on the ball skills. Elneny, who isn’t as gifted as them naturally looks basic.

    Elneny is a decent back up. He cost 5m. Wouldn’t have eaten up stupid wages. Runs his heart out every single time and genuinely cares. Max Meyer wouldn’t play 600 circa minutes in the PL and sign an extension. If he comes, he would atleast want to start 20 games.

  35. mysticleaves

    “The entire conversation on trying to make Elneny more than he is, is precisely why Arsenal continues its Flatter to Deceive World Tour.”

    Lines like this are actually moronic. You should desist from quantifying what people say with the reason why your life is so sad.

    Argue my point if you don’t like it and move on.

    I believe El Neny is a capable sqaud player and you don’t. Move the fuck on

  36. mysticleaves

    El Neny is exactly what he is,a good squad player and am happy to have him for many years as far as he continues to value playing for Arsenal.

  37. Ishola70

    Silly getting all precious about Elneny when Arsenal have a player like Xhaka turning out every week in the first XI.

    Agree with Mystic Elneny is a passable squad player.

    The focus and worry should be about the current midfielders who are seen as first team material.

    The central midfield is not good enough and that is reflected in Arsenal’s league position and points gap to the top of the table.

  38. Champagne Charlie

    Mystic

    Can you explain the rationale behind having a guy designated as backup, with no ability to challenge the starting XI?

    I’m trying to wrap my head around that one. He’s by definition not good enough to start, and at the same time puts my pressure on the starters to maintain a stellar level.

  39. mysticleaves

    Even in the invincibles team you have players that know they aren’t gonna be starters or even push to be one for that matter. Just content to do a job when called upon.

    Danilo, Delph, Paco alcacer, paulinho, all back ups in their teams.

    I don’t know how you lot see a football team but until you actually get to manage at any level at all you will understand some things.

  40. Champagne Charlie

    “Silly getting all precious about Elneny when Arsenal have a player like Xhaka turning out every week in the first XI.“

    Then surely replace Elneny with someone who can bench Xhaka?

    Replace Xhaka and you still have Elneny offering nothing. Replace Elneny and you have player X starting and Xhaka as a more able backup.

    Quite surprised how many don’t see the merit of making your ‘worst’ player better to elevate the team.

  41. Champagne Charlie

    “Danilo, Delph, Paco alcacer, paulinho, all back ups in their teams. I don’t know how you lot see a football team but until you actually get to manage at any level at all you will understand some things.“

    Weird argument given they’re all better players than Elneny.

    Care to clarify your last point? Sounds like you’re belittling people’s opinions because they haven’t managed a football team….

    ….are you implying you have and your view is more appreciable?

  42. Ishola70

    Charlie

    Mystic has already explained there are plenty of squads about where players are seen as back-up.

    There is absolutely no reason to get heated up about Elneny when players that are seen as first team regulars in that position get picked every week who are not good enough.

    The focus should be on getting in a player in the transfer market to replace a current first team starter in that position.

    Mind you Elneny getting a new contract can be a bad sign that there will be no moves or action to improve the centre midfield.

  43. Ishola70

    But that last point Charlie about Elneny signing on and that it can be a sign as things will continue as they have been with Xhaka turning out every week will not worry you of course.

  44. alexanderhenry

    Pedro

    You seem understandably disappointed about the Tuchel fake news, but you miss the point.
    Why isn’t he coming to Arsenal? Is that Wenger’s fault? We all agree Wenger’s past it. Why trot out the same old Wenger critique when you surely should be focussing on others.

    Tuchel not coming to arsenal might just have something to do with the people actually running arsenal football club.

    To quote you:

    ‘Still, the great thing is all the names are still being pushed our way. The club hasn’t come out and stated the manager is going to see through the last year of his deal.’

    You’re clutching at straws there. Arsenal have been linked with possible new managers for years now. We have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes and as usual our absentee owner who should be taking responsibility is fuck knows where.
    He sent his boy over, but all we’ve heard from him is a statement so vague, it would have made more sense if it had been printed out in hieroglyphics- something about ‘communication’?

    In the end it’s very simple: replace wenger with someone very very good and give him enough money to overhaul the squad.

  45. Champagne Charlie

    Ishola

    If you’d care to keep up, I’m nothing close to heated about Elneny signing.

    I stated right away that it was simply and easy avenue to improve the side with little capital investment – signalling that the ruthless rebuild being talked about this summer is a false dawn.

    I’m well aware you don’t have 22 starters, but the designations shouldn’t be as severe is my point. Elneny offers very little for the reasons I’ve stated.

    Oh and making some quip about me rating Xhaka just makes you look a tool, why not grow up a touch?

  46. mysticleaves

    Charlie, I don’t know what you are getting it. The barca team overall is stronger than ours. So their back ups will be stronger than ours. Paulinho is a back up, el Neny is a back up irrespective of who is better.

    The moment Xhaka finds out he won’t get much game time he will put in a transfer request. El Neny won’t, and it’s not a bad thing.

    And I didnt belittle anyone’s knowledge of the game, just pointed out a few things to consider when talking about a squad of 25 and not a starting XI

  47. Ishola70

    Not at all Charlie.

    My concern about Elneny signing on is that it means that Xhaka will continue to start for this team week in, week out and I think that is damaging for the side over time.

    That you rate him is of less concern to me.

  48. Akilan

    Just because arsene played Xhaka over Elneny, it doesn’t mean Elneny can’t bench Xhaka. I for one always felt safer when Elneny was the DM rather than Xhaka.

    Elneny offers nothing? He is probably our fittest MF. Unlike Ramsey, he usually plays in his position. Unlike Xhaka, he’s mobile.

    How can you rate Xhaka highly when he hasn’t done shit all with the ball? This season we’ve had decent strikers and an excellent no 10. For a player, who can’t move and can’t put in a tackle to save his life, he offers fuck all offensively in this system. I actually rate Xhaka offensively. If Xhaka and arteta look shite with the ball, there’s no hope for Elneny. Except he’s miles better than them defensively.

  49. mysticleaves

    If anything should be done to improve our middle, Xhaka or Ramsey should be sold and replaced. That will male our middle stronger.

    Relegating Xhaka to back up and selling El Neny will make us weaker because the next window Xhaka will want out and you will be back to looking for a back up again “who will challenge for the first team” who eventually leaves if he doesn’t get it. rinse repeat

  50. mysticleaves

    “El neny offers nothing? He is probably our fittest MF. Unlike Ramsey, he usually plays in his position. Unlike Xhaka, he’s mobile.”

    This is actually true. His awarenesses is the best of all our CDMs too with and without the ball. He is mobile, doesn’t get caught out all the time but when he does can bust a gut to recover.

    That being said, he shouldn’t be starting for us…

  51. Champagne Charlie

    Mystic

    Because I don’t agree on Elneny signing being a “very good thing”, and I certainly don’t agree with the idea of having a player that can’t oust a first XI player – qualifying him as a “good backup”.

    Barcelona are better so their backups are better you say….

    So surely to bridge the gap we need our bad players to be better?

    It’s the same point I made with Laca and Auba. Assume one is a backup to the other for argument sake. Now if we had bought Mahrez instead of Auba we’d be benching Iwobi for Mahrez instead of Laca for Auba.

    Which scenario makes Arsenals XI stronger for you?

  52. Marko

    Silly getting all precious about Elneny when Arsenal have a player like Xhaka turning out every week in the first XI.

    Agree. It’s more important to replace Xhaka and Ramsey in the starting 11 than it is to replace a back up player who we’d get about 10 million for anyway.

  53. Champagne Charlie

    Mystic

    Give it a rest mate, how do you know Xhaka would hand in a bloody transfer request if he wasn’t in the team all the time?

    Even so, who the fuck cares. I’d sooner have a player unhappy because he feels capable of starting vs a guy content picking up a wage for being a good trainer and ‘top lad’.

    Now I am inclined to say that type of acceptance is a contributor to lowered standards.

  54. Akilan

    Okay put it this way. None of Xhaka, Ramsey and Jack is a DM. Jack and Ramsey aren’t even CMs. Xhaka IMO can’t play in a 2 man midfield in the PL. Elneny is probably our only DM and certainly the most defensive of the quartet. It’s OK to extend the contract of your only MF that is capable of doing donkey’s work.

    He filled in as a back up against Swansea and Watford and looked decent. Upgrade Xhaka and we have a decent DMs.

  55. Marko

    It’s also worth noting that it’s silly to try and justify Elneny and keeping him as well. Just because replacing others who happen to start is of more importance in no way shape or form should a player like Elneny be at a supposed ambitious club like Arsenal.

  56. mysticleaves

    Charlie I think that rest is precisely what I need now lol. Its been a long day. I just hope the board grow a ball and fire Wenger once and for all. I want this above any other thing happening at Arsenal. Good night all.

    Akilan, always nice to have you around.

  57. Bamford10

    I don’t have a problem with the re-signing of Elneny. He’s a solid, tidy, low-cost squad player. Frankly, I might rate him more highly than Xhaka.

  58. loyika

    Pedders!? All this back and forth with all the speculation, you will live a longer, healthier life if you just chill out and let the drama play itself out.

    One things for sure, No one knows whats happening in the background with the club. (same way no one knew when Arsene was about to be appointed Manager)

    What will be will be. All we hear is romours and gossip.

    Frankly only one person knows what will happen and that who’s decision matters in all this talk of managerial change either this summer or next and that person isn’t Ivan, Josh, Sir Chips or even Arsene himself.

    So unless footie Journos get an exclusive from America direct from the “Horse’s mouth” then the rest is just “Tittle tattle” and click bait.

    There will definately be a merry go round of managers especially at PSG and probably The Chavs and Int teams but a’las Arsenal are in the Twilight Zone and no one bar one Moustached American knows what will happen this summer (regardless of results from now till the end of the season)

  59. Bamford10

    Champagne

    Yeah, but Lacazette isn’t good enough, so signing Mahrez rather than Auba would have left us with an inadequate CF.

    Improving at CF is more important than improving wide, so signing Auba made sense.

    I agree that we need to improve wide (and Iwobi is useless) but in truth our mistake was signing Lacazette, not Aubameyang.

  60. Akilan

    One more reason people don’t rate Elneny is when he was signed, he was touted as a young ball playing CM that can play as a DM, not an out and out DM. When he couldn’t control the tempo of the game and basically not up to the level of arsenal mids, they started to think that he’s shite.

    It’s a bit funny as he ended up our most defensive midfielder and our 35m hard man DM isn’t actually a DM and can’t tackle to save his life. Whats more funny is when he fouls the opponents out of his ineptitude in tackling and try to pass it off as being a hard man. Lol. Even against AC Milan(he was excellent TBF), he did this. Even in games when he plays well, you’re guaranteed atleast one brainfart moment from him.

  61. Champagne Charlie

    I really fail to see where people are getting the idea Elneny is a good defensive option. I think people are trying to speak that into existence frankly.

    Banford
    Put your Laca issues to one side for once.

    Surely nobody can argue the difference in improvement of you were to consider:

    1. Auba to play ahead of Laca
    2. Mahrez to play ahead of Iwobi

    Playing devils advocate, let’s say Auba is a 10% increase over Laca (I don’t think this as you know), Mahrez is a good 150% better than Iwobi.

  62. Frankie Coffeecakes

    @Mystic – “Lines like this are actually moronic. You should desist from quantifying what people say with the reason why your life is so sad.”

    This coming from someone whos made it his life ambition to make being a moron an appealing thing. Have you been told today?

  63. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Again, just how bad are things at Arsenal these days? Bad enough that morons like MysticSlapNUTS tred out fucking conversations about bit marginal players like Elneny and make them out like they actually matter? And you call me a moron? Dumbshit of dumbshits you are.

  64. David Smith

    Funny how wenger gives such juicy quotes to bein sports. I bet he gets an impressive packet for doing so despite sacking thierry henry for doing the same thing.
    As tim payton says, the info he gives to the qatari media outlet is a conflict of interests. Why does he tell them more than arsenal site?
    He talks values, do his qatari mates share his values? Homophobia, workers rights,financial doping?
    Only three things matter to wenger at the risk of sounding like a New Order album,power, survival and money.

  65. Black Hei

    I like the current vibe at Le Grove.

    When Champagne Charlie and Bamford are having a decent conversation, it looks like things are moving up tick.

  66. Black Hei

    Regarding the Elneny debate, the clearest solution is to keep Elneny on squad wages and sell Xhaka and buy a starting replacement.

    Agreed? Unless we have some fancy idea bout keeping Xhaka as an overpaid squaddie.

  67. mysticleaves

    Frankie

    For clarity sake, I didn’t call you a moron, I said you made a statement that is moronic, different things.

    The “this is why Wenger still has a job” line when people confer their opinion on a blog is annoying and insulting to put it mildly and I find it moronic.

    Because I wonder how keeping El Neny in the squad as back up and hoping we replace our starting midfielders helps keep Wenger in a job. Only Stan Kroenke is keeping Wenger in a job not when fans talk about team make up on a blog.

  68. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘Agreed? Unless we have some fancy idea bout keeping Xhaka as an overpaid squaddie.’

    Champagne Charlie likes this idea. Yeah, apparantely salary hike for Ramsey is not smart business but selling a cheap(and better) squad player in Elneny and demoting 90k-a-week Xhaka to the bench is the way to go.

  69. mysticleaves

    What about bringing back Oscar to the premier league? I would sign him in a bit. Depay would also be cherishing another big platform to prove he is the man to.

    Two left side signings that could improve us very well.

  70. Leedsgunner

    Someone please tell Arsene that if he was still winning titles and the Champions’ League no one would be suggesting he’s past it. After all no one told Ferguson that…

    At least Ferguson had the good sense to go out on a high note.

    Before Wenger cries that he’s a victim ask him how long he’s won the title.

  71. DivineSherlock

    So much beef over Elneny . My mate described him aptly . He is just an upgrade on Coquelin . He is limited in what he does, but what he does is pretty consistent overall.

  72. DivineSherlock

    Mystic

    Oscar ? Really? Mate he burned his bridges by going to China .

    Anyone see that U19 lad from Italy . Scamacca . He is getting rave reviews.

  73. mysticleaves

    Divine

    Maybe he has seen now that money is not everything? like Paulinho saw and came back to a competitive league. Plus, I think his situation with Chelsea forced him to leave. Jose couldn’t give him matches..

    I have always liked his play though so maybe am biased talking about him. The lad can perform.

    I have no idea who scamacca is. There’s also a 17 yo at lyon, Grobbeuls or something…getting race reviews too

  74. GuNZ

    I am in full agreement with that nice Mr. Wenger. I, too, am over 50, have done nothing worthwhile for the last decade, and everyone thinks I’m a cunt.

  75. GuNZ

    Actually, Academia’s a bit like Wenger’s situation at Arsenal. Universities are chocca-block with crusty old cunts who’ve published nothing worthwhile for decades but nevertheless jealously hang onto their tenures whilst they thrust their maws into the trough of their own reputations, reputations that are long bereft of any dynamism or prestige. All they do is clog up the system for the more innovative minds coming up behind them.

  76. DivineSherlock

    Mystic

    Probably , but I dont think he’ll give up on those massive wages, could’ve gone to PSG or Juventus (there were rumors I think) but he chose China . I liked him too , he was skillful like all Brazilians. Jose fucked up so many good players man its beyond belief.

  77. Pierre

    I noticed that someone mentioned that elneny is just an upgrade on coquelin…. I’m not so sure.

    Coquelin, in my opinion, played and contributed very well in Arsenal’s best midfield since ces left the club.

    He and cazorla were a great, well balanced partnership.. Coquelin was never the same player once cazorla was beset with injuries.

    The players that have tried to fill cazorla’s boots have sadly failed. He showed that you don’t have to be big and physical to play the centre midfield role but you need technique, intelligence, skill and an astute football brain.

    Coquelin and cazorla complimented each others style perfectly.

  78. DivineSherlock

    Pierre
    It was me who said that .
    And it looks as if you’re complimenting Cazorla more than Coquelin. You put Cazorla besides Elneny and even he will do a better job

  79. mysticleaves

    “The players that have tried to fill cazorla’s boots have sadly failed. He showed that you don’t have to be big and physical to play the centre midfield role but you need technique, intelligence, skill and an astute football brain.”

    Max Meyer!!

  80. London gunner

    It’s simple lads.

    In any form of management you get rid of the worst employees first.

    The worst performing staff or in this case football player has to be xhaka by long mile.

    Even when isn’t playing badly he is still not good enough for Arsenal.

    Way to flawed as a player.