Day 59: Sanchez is still sad + player exit rumours round up

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Death. Taxes. Disaster transfer windows. Jack Wilshere injuries. All guarantees in the life of an Arsenal fan.

I’ve been saying all year the idea of him going to play at a World Cup is crazy. He should be looking after himself and preserving his legs for his club. The club that’s funneled wages into him for very little return.

It’s not his fault he’s broken, but he’s played a lot of games in the last three months (by his standards), and it’s clear he can’t handle normal workloads.

Hopefully this isn’t a massive issue because if it is, he can kiss goodbye to whatever contract they have on the table.

If you swim past sentimentality, it’s tough to justify our continued faith in him. He’s been ok this season, but not a revelation. Jack spoke candidly about the fact Wenger wanted rid of him in the summer.

‘He said, ‘I am going to be honest with you and at the moment we are not going to be offering you a contract, so if you can get a contract somewhere else, you can go’.

‘Obviously, I was not happy with that, but at the same time I was happy he was being honest

I’d place money Sven M and Raul could find better value for £90k a week.

There’s a really good piece from Charlie Watts over at London.Football has written about the LA Rams bold move to fire a shite 70-year-old manager and replace him with a young 30 year old whippersnapper.

“I think if they were going to stay in St Louis then maybe Stan would have been happy with the status quo, but the fact he is in a new market he pushed for with a fanbase who had no real ties to the Rams and a new stadium, I think he understood that he had to listen to the fans.

“He understood something had to change otherwise the LA thing was not going to work out because the last thing you need in a city as big as this one, when there are as many distractions that there are here, is for everyone to be a bit meh about your football team.”

Key takeaway here, we might need to move to Milton Keynes to get Wenger out of the club. I’d take that right now, it has a cool vegan cocktail scene, right?

Your daily update on Sanchez being sad about being utter shite comes courtesey of the national team coach.

‘He is sad because he wants to show his level. Fortunately, he arrived with a great disposition. He knows that his teammates love him and respect him.’

I AM GLAD HE IS SAD.

Hector Bellerin’s agent is either trying to quell rumours that his client is seeking a move, or he’s trying to entice bidders.

“Bellerin is very happy at Arsenal. He signed a long-term contract with Arsenal over a year ago,” Botines told Italian radio station CRC. “If a club wants to make an offer for Bellerin, they first have to get in contact with Arsenal.

“Every summer there is interest from clubs but Arsenal have not made me aware that any offers have arrived.”

I’d say Bellerin should work on being better before he squeals for a move away from Arsenal. Again, it’s tough to judge him too hard, he’s working for a shite manager. Still, Nacho does a great job in defence, and he has the same person teaching him that switching off is the best way to express creativity in 2018.

Right, that’s me done. Let’s pray for ZERO damage to our players this weekend.

Sorry for the lack of posts this week, MEGA important work stuff that I need to concentrate on, so, you know, sometimes football shit has to take a back seat.

xx

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  1. TR7

    Bamford

    No, Ramsey is not a B2B CM for me. He doesn’t build up play like say Modric, Dembele, Schweinsteiger, Gerrard etc do/did. For me a B2B CM is a guy who can defend, score a few goals but most importantly also run the game in terms of building up play, acting as a link between defense and attack and set the tempo of the game. Ramsey doesn’t do the last and the most important part.

    Anyway let’s move on. Any other topic would do.

  2. champagne charlie

    “In the end it comes down to this, gents: some of us think Ramsey is good enough; some of us don’t. Neither camp is going to convince the other.”

    Not convinced that is the primary argument at hand here, I think you’re arguing as if thats the case instead.

    Ramsey is either getting a fat new contract, or sold. People as a whole are discussing which represents a better return for Arsenal given our current needs. I can see wholeheartedly why selling Ramsey is a sensible route to take when you factor everything and dismiss the futile ‘is he good’ argument.

  3. Bamford10

    Champagne

    The variables I laid out had an “or” between them, so a player need not be overvalued in the market if he meets one of the other criteria.

    TR7

    Ok, so who do you see us signing this summer at CM and CDM? Who would meet your high CM standards? How much do you have us spending?

    Further, who is going to play wide right next season? Who do you have us playing there?

    Do you think we need to sign a CB?

    And I assume you have us signing a GK.

    So how much do you have us spending? And who are you NOT selling?

  4. champagne charlie

    Banford

    I’m curious what you estimate the value each player in the squad could generate this summer.

    Let’s argue the following can be sold:

    Ospina
    Bellerin
    Mustafi
    Chambers
    Xhaka
    Elneny
    Ramsey
    Iwobi
    Welbz
    Lacazette
    Perez
    Campbell

  5. Marko

    Once again the comments section is filled with regurgitated banality.

    Oh fuck off Red you weird little freak you literally add nothing to the comment section. Might I add every single day.

  6. Bamford10

    Charlie

    Actually, that is what it’s about. Because if Ramsey is a good enough CM for a title-winning XI, then there would be absolutely no reason to sell him. Unless you can tell me of a CM we can get who is as good or better and who will save us 20m net. I say that to get a CM of Ramsey’s quality, we’ll have to spend roughly what we’d get for Ramsey in the market.

    Tell us about this CM you have in mind who yields us 20m net.

  7. Marko

    Ok, so who do you see us signing this summer at CM and CDM? Who would meet your high CM standards? How much do you have us spending?

    No point in speculating until we (hopefully) have a new manager. I’d be surprised if we don’t see at least two midfielders bought. Shocked. And off the top of my head I could probably replace Ramsey with about a dozen midfielders in Europe who could be attained and would suit us better

  8. champagne charlie

    Banford

    How about you answer the question with an answer instead of a question?

    Run through those names and give an estimated value for this summer, by doing so you’ll make a lot of things all the clearer for discussion.

  9. Marko

    Unless you can tell me of a CM we can get who is as good or better and who will save us 20m net.

    Why’s it 20 million just?

  10. TR7

    Bamford

    Our squad needs a major rebuilding and I think it will take more than one transfer window to fix things. For me GK and forwards are not immediate priority areas. So I will stick with Cech, Laca, Auba, Ozil, Welbeck and Mikhi for now.

    My priority list would be –
    CDM
    CM
    CB
    RB

    I will sell Xhaka and Mustafi to generate some funds. If Ramsey doesn’t ask for a mega deal then it’s okay otherwise good riddance

  11. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘Not sure how talking about Mustafi, Ozil, Xhaka as concerns is wise seeing as they’ve been consistent players in the first XI.’

    What sort of logic is this, Charlie?

    The fact that Xhaka, a player that has more weaknesses than strengths, is a consistent starter is in itself a massive concern.

    Cech has featured regularly, is he also not a concern by your logic?

    Not sure why you try so hard to make it either-or cases in these matters.

    Ramsey not worth a new deal? Fine, get rid. That doesn’t mean we don’t have to look at Xhaka and whether he’s worth persisting with.

    You know, for a guy who accuses others of being biased towards some player, you are awfully precious about Xhaka.

  12. Bamford10

    Actually, Charlie, I’m not obligated to answer any of your questions.

    In contrast, the logic of your argument only makes sense if you can answer the question I’ve asked, so it’s actually in your interest to answer mine.

    As for your list, why would I look at that list when I already stated that there are three players, IMO, that we should look to sell if we’re interested in generating some spending cash. They are: Lacazette, Bellerin and Xhaka.

    As for what we might get for those three, I’d say it’s reasonable to think we could get £45m for Lacazette, £40m for Bellerin and £30m Xhaka.

  13. Marko

    The fact that Xhaka, a player that has more weaknesses than strengths, is a consistent starter is in itself a massive concern

    I agree with this. Xhaka doesn’t get a pass because he happens to be a consistent starter in arguably our worst midfield in over a decade. In fact it’s a travesty that after so many poor games and errors leading to goals and whatnot that he was persisted with. But that’s Wenger for you.

  14. champagne charlie

    Rambo

    It’s pretty simple. It’s called prioritisation.

    Instead of focusing on those types, Arsenal need concern themselves with players contributing next to nothing: Elneny, Jack, Chambers, Welbz.

    Then those who have question marks raised for one reason or another: Lacazette (gametime, playing 2nd fiddle), Ramsey (inflated contract renewal), Bellerin (want away).

    “The fact that Xhaka, a player that has more weaknesses than strengths, is a consistent starter is in itself a massive concern.”

    No, hes simply better than the other options at CM – hence he plays. Though whilst you’re so keen to deride Xhaka for actually playing, let’s not ignore the fact he’s started EVERY game in the premier league this season and Ramsey has only managed 17 out of 30. You going to overlook fitness and being robust as a genuine consideration for a player?

    I’d worry about Xhaka and Mustafi if the rest of the team was mint. It isn’t so their faults are down the pecking order – it’s that simple.

  15. champagne charlie

    Banford

    Yea crack on mate with your ‘not obliged’ bollocks.

    Nobody is obliged on a football blog, but you’re about the only one that can’t answer questions when people ask them. Probably because you see where they’re logically leading and you’d sooner guide the narrative down another path.

    How much would Ramsey fetch? Remember any money he would generate can also be considered alongside the massive wages we’d have to outlay were he to stay.

  16. TR7

    Welbz was a menace against Milan in Europa league. The guy can’t score to save his life but he has the ability to rattle defenses, something Laca and Auba can’t. He is not useless in any sense of the world.

  17. champagne charlie

    TR7

    Welbz is ‘useless’ compared to Auba and Laca relatively speaking. Mentioning a double header against Milan as sole reason for his worth is poor.

    Welbeck has delivered next to nothing this season for Arsenal.

  18. Bamford10

    Welbeck is functioning as a serviceable, inexpensive back-up CF at the moment. There is much value in this, even if he’s not a great scorer.

    As I’ve said before, what we don’t need is a £52m back-up CF.

  19. champagne charlie

    “Welbeck is functioning as a serviceable, inexpensive back-up CF at the moment. There is much value in this, even if he’s not a great scorer.”

    Don’t recall this being your mantra when considering Giroud.

  20. Bamford10

    By the way, my boy Lingard scored a decent goal last night. I think Southgate is right to try to go young and to try to get the England players to enjoy their football a bit more. In the end it won’t be enough this time around, but I think it’s a better way forward.

  21. Bamford10

    Champagne

    Well, that might have something to do with the fact that he was our starting CF for 3-4 years, not our back-up.

    As for when he was our back-up, I never liked his lack of mobility, but I always said he could be effective from the 70th minute on.

    In the end, though, I’m not a fan of lampposts.

  22. TR7

    Charlie

    Of course both Auba and Laca are ahead of Welbz in pecking order and rightly so but against certain teams and in some specific situations Welbeck can be used as a good impact player. You wouldn’t get a quality player agreeing to be a third choice striker anyway. So keeping him makes sense to me. Selling him wouldn’t generate much funds either.

  23. Marko

    He is not useless in any sense of the world

    He’s a striker who can’t score to save his life. That’s pretty useless. Very little difference between him and Iwobi

  24. Bamford10

    Charlie

    You’re the one who thinks it’s such a great honor to play for Manchester United. That I rate this or that United player is just … normal, just … football.

    Plus, I’m pretty sure you’re a pretty big fan of Pogba’s, no? Yeah, you are.

    So, umm, bad argument.

  25. Bamford10

    Marko

    I used to think you were a relatively reasonable poster. I have to say, though, your take on Welbeck above and your take on Ramsey in general has changed my view. You’re definitely a little unreasonable.

  26. champagne charlie

    Tr7

    I’d sooner see someone like Nketiah play 2nd/3rd string.

    Eddie would be on a quarter of Welbecks wages and the funds received for Welbeck could be used to service other areas of the side. That’s without considering any bosman options out there.

    I think you’d get 15 mil for Welbeck from a side like West Ham or Everton.

  27. Marko

    You wouldn’t get a quality player agreeing to be a third choice striker anyway. So keeping him makes sense to me. Selling him wouldn’t generate much funds either.

    Give over he’s shit 3rd choice or otherwise so sell him. You’d get about 15-20 million at least in this market and that’s money and a squad place that could be better used elsewhere. Give Niketiah his spot if he’s promising enough. When you think about how we’ve persisted with Welbeck and let players like Campbell, Vela and Lucas off the top of my head go without barely a chance it’s kind of a joke. Get rid. People arguing about Iwobi and Bellerin and Xhaka being shit and sold but then arguing the merit in keeping Danny fucking Welbeck need their heads examined

  28. Akilan

    I’m in Ramsey in camp. But I don’t buy bamford’s “his numbers are better than ozil’s” line. Let’s stop this bullshit that Ramsey is a CM. He isn’t. Doesn’t play like 1. Never has. His best games for both club and country came whenever he’s been afforded a “free role”.

    The way I see it, we have 3 AMs Ozil, Ramsey and Mkhi. These players should always play ahead of a 2 man base except shite teams at home. Assuming we buy a winger, we have 2 slots left that could be filled by these guys.

    None of our midfielders can be trusted to protect our defenders in a 2 man midfield, except maybe Elneny, who is at best a backup. Some think Xhaka should be CM. I don’t think so. He ain’t gonna cut it in the Prem. Not for Arsenal with Ozil and Ramsey/Mkhi ahead of him.

  29. Marko

    I used to think you were a relatively reasonable poster. I have to say, though, your take on Welbeck above and your take on Ramsey in general has changed my view.

    You think less of me because of a difference of opinion? I shall change that post haste. I love Danny Welbeck he’s awesome and a brilliant 3rd choice striker with a deceptively decent goal return. And Ramsey what can I say he’s absolutely indispensable to the future of this football club. He scores he assists he’s defensively capable and offensively brilliant at the same time. He literally runs the midfield every game and he’s worthy of a modest increase in salary at the very least but I say pay him massively that’s how much we need him

  30. champagne charlie

    “You’re the one who thinks it’s such a great honor to play for Manchester United.”

    What?

    “Plus, I’m pretty sure you’re a pretty big fan of Pogba’s, no? Yeah, you are.”

    I think he’s an elite talent. He’s not “my boy” you fucking spatula

  31. Paulinho

    Our first team is garbage, so I don’t really see the point on focusing on fringe players like Chambers, Welbeck, or are relatively low maintenance and can play in two of three positions. Welbeck, when fully fit, is a superb option in a floating wide role in a front three. Excellent moving with the ball through midfield, and very underrated football brain.

    Problem we have is all our best players are injury prone, and our shit ones are seemingly made of granit (e).

  32. Rambo Ramsey

    Charlie,

    ‘Though whilst you’re so keen to deride Xhaka for actually playing, let’s not ignore the fact he’s started EVERY game in the premier league this season and Ramsey has only managed 17 out of 30. You going to overlook fitness and being robust as a genuine consideration for a player?’

    Yes, he’s been the constant in our midfield for two years now, the most uninspiring and worst performing midfield we’ve had in many a years.

    Fitness and longevity are important, absolutely,but where do they place compared to skills, attributes, suitability to the team/league?

    Just cause he’s robust doesn’t mean his position in the team need not be reviewed. That is stupid, its like accepting Wenger for another few years because he’s been in the job for 20 years. Why do we have to put up with all their faults when you can find someone better?

    Again, we’re not dealing either-or cases. No need to prioritize, you can get rid of multiple players if they’re not worthy of a place in the team.

  33. Akilan

    Who we should/will sell should be based on who we buy. For example, if we could sign Martial, I would sell Lacazette and keep Danny as 3rd choice. If we sign a pure winger like Mahrez or Bailey, I would sell welbeck and keep Lacazette.

    A midfield of Meyer and Fabinho would cost net 25m, without a drastic increase in wages. Release Jack and sell Xhaka.

  34. HillWood

    Welbeck is supposed to be a striker
    Strikers are supposed to score goals
    Welbeck is totally incapable of doing this
    Welbeck is a useless cunt

  35. champagne charlie

    “Again, we’re not dealing either-or cases. No need to prioritize, you can get rid of multiple players if they’re not worthy of a place in the team”

    There’s always the need to prioritise, that statement make no sense at all.

    Arsenal operate on a budget and we need to make the most impactful decisions this summer to correct the course. Swapping out a mainstay when you have wasters on the fringes is frivolous.

    “Just cause he’s robust doesn’t mean his position in the team need not be reviewed. That is stupid, its like accepting Wenger for another few years because he’s been in the job for 20 years.”

    I didn’t state anything close to this. I said he’s down the pecking order, I think verbatim. Nobody in the side bar Ozil, and Auba get a free pass. But despite what you say there absolutely IS the need to prioritise who is reviewed; quite simply because the idea we will fix ALL this summer is pure fantasy.

  36. Marko

    Swapping out a mainstay when you have wasters on the fringes is frivolous.

    To be fair when that mainstay is Xhaka it’s kind of obvious he’s a hindrance and kind of important he’s addressed this summer. Absolutely with you on Ramsey but equally Xhaka must be nowhere near the first team next season

  37. champagne charlie

    Marko

    I don’t agree, and the “kind of obvious” and “must be” stuff doesn’t endear you much frankly.

  38. Rambo Ramsey

    Charlie, you get the most impact by making changes to the starting 11.

    What’s the point in selling Wilshere, Ramsey, Elneny et al if Xhaka still waddles onto the pitch on every match day next season?

    What’s the point in selling Chambers if Mustafi is on hand to be a menace to his own team?

  39. Pierre

    Akilan
    “The way I see it, we have 3 AMs Ozil, Ramsey and Mkhi. These players should always play ahead of a 2 man base except shite teams at home. .”

    Correct..

    At the risk of sounding boring (here goes)… Tarkowski from Burnley ,looks a quality centre back to me plus I think holding will come good …..Nzonzi and AMN as the holding mid …..aubamayang as 1st choice striker with welbeck and lacazette as back up…..and pick 3 AMs out of ozil ,Ramsey ,mhkitarean ,lacazette ,welbeck and Iwobi / nelson…..personally I would go out and buy mahrez as well..

    For me It would be mahrez on the right ,ozil in the middle and mhkitarean on the left but they can interchange during the game …

    If we didn’t buy mahrez then Ramsey would be fine.

  40. Marko

    I don’t agree, and the “kind of obvious” and “must be” stuff doesn’t endear you much frankly.

    Okay. I mean it is pretty obvious though you’ve only to look at his errors leading to goals stats and he must be replaced if we harbour any ambitions to improve our position. It’s obvious to most you’re definitely still in the Xhaka corner though. Thankfully there’s not a lot of you guys left

  41. champagne charlie

    Rambo

    Because you ideally aim to replace the fringe players with players capable of playing in the first XI.

    We’d be much stronger with Xhaka as a bench player next season than if we still had Elneny and Welbz offering next to nothing.

    Literally the same premise behind why buying Aubameyang wasn’t an “improvement” worth making. Starting Auba over Laca improves us how much? Now replace Iwobi with Mahrez for similar money. We’d have improved more with that option, which is the same I’m advocating for this summer all across the pitch.

  42. champagne charlie

    Marko

    Can’t be bothered with you mate, you’re churning out banford levels of self importance with statements like that.

    Have your opinions, but you’ve offered nothing to dissuade mine.

  43. Michael24

    I sort of admire those on here who show so much passion when it comes to discussing/analysing potential team formations and players. How do you do it? or should I say, why do you do it?

    Some would say this is a DENIAL SYNDROME.

    My own passion no longer exists as I feel it is pointless to contemplate any progressive systems with Wenger at the club.

    Sad, I know, but totally justifiable.

  44. Michael24

    Redtruth

    “A top 4 challenge is the best we can hope whilst Wenger is in charge”

    Wow! You really believe we can reach those heights?

  45. Marko

    Can’t be bothered with you mate, you’re churning out banford levels of self importance with statements like that. Have your opinions, but you’ve offered nothing to dissuade mine.

    I’m not trying to dissuade you. And it’s not self importance if the majority of people agree with me.

  46. Emiratesstroller

    The priority this summer must be to replace Wenger with a new manager and this should have been done before we invest a pseu on any new players.

    It is ridiculous that there is any uncertainty in this respect. Arsenal should be a rebuild job and not just tinkering this summer with perhaps two or three new players.

    At the end of the day we do not want to keep on buying players who get Wenger’s approval. The club needs to find a manager who will will offer ambition in the EPL and in Europe.

    Wenger has failed to achieve this over the past 13 years and when you analyse
    our situation it is because we are always reacting [too late] to problems rather
    than anticipating them.

    I am all for loyalty rather than firing from the hip as far too many other clubs are habitually doing, but there comes a point where there must be realisation that the manager and coaching staff are past their sell by date.

    Arsenal have had plenty of of time over past 5 years to find a new manager and
    rebuild our coaching team.

    When you look at our current squad the obvious shortcomings are at goalkeeper, defence and in central midfield.

    We know that Cech, Mertesacker and Cazorla need to be replaced. Probably Koscielny is no longer good enough to play in starting eleven as well.

    When you look at the younger players I don’t think that Wilshire, Welbeck or Iwobi are good enough for first team. If you keep these players it is on the basis that they are going to sit on bench and be paid wages, which reflect that position and not the inflated wages that Wilshire seems to expect.

    Personally I would not sell Bellerin unless a new manager comes in and makes that decision. This is a young player with a long contract and for all
    the negativity can be improved with the right instruction.

  47. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    I’m not getting drawn into a back and forth, I’ll say the following… You stated:

    “It’s obvious to most you’re definitely still in the Xhaka corner though. Thankfully there’s not a lot of you guys left”

    If you can’t understand how pompous and self important that is then that’s your issue. I rate a player, you don’t and it’s really that simple.

    Learn to accept other people have different points of view of players and the game itself. You know, the same advice you gave on here not long ago.

    This “you guys”, “them vs us” mentality is fucking cringeworthy. Your opinion isn’t more valid through popularity, you think one thing and I think another – that’s it.

  48. Michael24

    RT

    NO! NO! NO! I won’t have it.

    You’ll see a different Xhaka in the WC.

    Focused, bright, efficient, tactically aware.

    All the things he isn’t at Arsenal.

    I wonder why that is?

  49. goonerboy

    Agree with Stroller- its GOT to be replacement Manager this summer as the number one priority–Tuchel? He is the right age, has the right level of experience, is in the right market and plays the right style for this club and he still has something to prove. Not my choice (Simeone would add more value to the existing squad) but I have to say that Tuchel’s arrival would resurrect my interest in this club which is currently dormant until Wenger goes. Need complete new coaching regime with new manager. Its true Wenger has amassed an unbalanced squad overloaded with attacking midfielders who don’t cut it defensively. The remainder of the midfield and defence certainly requires serious review. I am resistant to criticism of players like Xhaka and our left back because of the lack of preparation and organisation apparent regarding our defence and midfield- hence I do not advocate complete player replacement of Defence / Keeper/ midfield defence. We have under-performed in all important games this season so far. apart from to Spurs and Chelsea at home. That is pretty poor.

  50. Akilan

    I don’t think tuchel will come here. He had a public fallout with Sven, which led to the latter’s departure from BVB. Tuchel initiated a training ground ban which lasted a full fucking year eventually led to Sven leaving. Don’t think they’ll ever work together.

  51. TR7

    Wallace

    Kicker generally very reliable. Let’s wait and watch.

    I am fine with Tuchel taking over. Not a dream appointment but still an exciting one.

  52. London gunner

    Welbeck is so God damn overrated on this football blog. He is a west ham level player and that being kind. In fact he wouldn’t stand out at crystal Palace.

    We’ve needed a better option than him on the wing for a while.

  53. Wallace

    TR7

    yeah, Bild and I’d be far more cautious, but Kicker…and kinda crazy if he’s turned down the Bayern job for us.

  54. TR7

    Arguably Chelsea could be one of the possible destinations as well for Tuchel if the news about a top London club hiring him is true but why would anyone turn down an offer from Bayern for Chelsea where there is always a sword hanging over the manager.

  55. Akilan

    Now Bild with a piece that says the deal is not that close. Also says PSG are favourites for him. IMO, he’s going to Bayern.

  56. Victorious

    Now Bild with a piece that says the
    deal is not that close. Also says PSG
    are favourites for him. IMO, he’s
    going to Bayern.

    I hope so,don’t want him,he is so much overrated and comes across like a more clueless Klopp,we need a manager that can go neck to neck with Pep in tactics and nous, and didn’t Tuchel fell out with Sven while at Dortmund, shame to see a Dortmund team brimming with confidence fell apart in his latter years with the club

  57. Dissenter

    Bild is the authority on German footie, the rumors have to b taken seriously.
    We need to cool off of this “fall-out” that Sven presumably had with Tuchel. People make up after disagreements and are best buddies after all.

  58. Guns of Brixton

    football/news/12087/11303803/england-must-stick-with-gareth-southgate-even-if-they-fail-in-russia-says-guillem-balague

  59. PhD07

    VictoriousMarch 25, 2018 10:50:01
    Who is Lothar Matthaus?oh year another clueless ITK

    ———————————–
    Oh dear,you’ve dug yourself a mighty big hole there.No coming back from that faux pas??!!

    It must have been before your time-if you don’t know who Lothar Mattheus is.

  60. Victorious

    Easy tigers,you’ve totally misinterpret the context of my question,not that I don’t know who he is in the footie universe,but if he is privy to the knowledge of who Tuchel is really in touch with for a managerial appointment

  61. Dissenter

    Karma’s a mean bitch.
    Wilshere was just giving out intimate details of the negotiations with Arsena, including what Wenger told him privately.
    Now he’s injured again, hopefully we yank that contract offer away.

  62. Ishola70

    Of course Arsenal need some injection of new players into the first XI if they want to seriously compete .

    As well as being a good manager Guardiola has basically brought in a whole new first XI bar a few positions over two seasons.

    Number one priority is to get in a midfielder who can protect the back four and is defensively switched on.. This type of midfielder is even more needed now with the first XI having Ozil and Mhiki in it as well as a luxury midfielder in Xhaka. The first XI needs some balance between attack and defence and rolling over teams on occasions will not hide this requirement. If Arsenal want to compete consistently then this type of midfielder is required. Some poster has been banging on about Nzonzi recently. Many on here were calling for him last summer. This is the type of midfielder Arsenal need and many Arsenal fans need to get over their snobbery regarding this position. The snobbery comes from Wenger himself for this certain position.

    Next requirement is to get in a good quality CB. Ideally you would want to get in two as Kos is past his best and Mustafi too erratic but realistically one to bring in for next season. I’d have the new CB partner Kos and see if Kos can last one more season and then go back in the market the following summer to add another CB.

    Atm RB and GK are not as pressing an issue for change as DM and CB. Ideally you would replace all four positions and I would have RB over GK as more needed for change. Bellerin is not at the level where he expects to automatically be a guaranteed first team starter every week. A more mature older good standard RB should come in to give Bellerin competition. GK is not as dire as some like to portray. While Cech is obviously past his best he still can perform overall to a decent standard and he has actually kept the score down in matches where Arsenal are under the cosh. GK is the last requirement for change at this time.

    And a new manager of course to oversee all this. Any new manager coming in the number one requirement from him is that he improves this team in regards to conceding goals.

  63. Marko

    I’d prefer Jardim but you’d take Tuchel in a heartbeat. Must do something right if Bayern wanted him to replace Jupp and PSG are sniffing after him too.

    And all the didn’t he fall out with Sven stuff is kind of laughable when you consider Sven is just a chief scout and that shouldn’t hinder us one bit in our search for a new manager. It’s irrelevant

  64. Marko

    Kind of disagree Ishola we can last another season with Bellerin and AMN as RB’s but the goalkeeper position becomes a major problem this summer with not only Cech being shit and getting shitter but likely Ospina will finally be off. So then it becomes a situation where do we target a back up keeper to replace Ospina and keep Cech as number one which is kind of putting off the inevitable and kind of like putting a bandaid on a severed leg. Or do we target a number one and make Cech the number two. Option three of keeping Cech one with Emi Martinez as number two is a massive gamble. We’ve fucked around with this massively important position for years let’s just sort it

  65. Ishola70

    As said Marko all four positions GK, RB, DM and CB ideally to be replaced this summer but realistically this is not going to happen.

    So then you have to prioritise some positions over others at this time.

    And to do that you simply ask yourself which players have been more of a hindrance to this Arsenal side over the last few seasons.

    Is getting in a new GK and RB this summer going to see the team seriously competing if there is still such a soft midfield centre defensively?

  66. Ishola70

    Doesn’t matter how good the GK is if teams are strolling through the middle offensively. The team are going to suffer down the line with chances given up.

    Doesn’t matter how good the GK is if Bellerin keeps showing defensive weakness.

    Doesn’t matter how good the GK is if Mustafi has his defensive brainstorms.

    As said Cech has kept the score down in games where Arsenal could have lost by far more. He can be put up with for another season. More pressing matters to be addressed.

  67. Rambo Ramsey

    Tuchel rumors make sense when you consider how hard we went for Auba and Mkhitaryan.

    Can we nab Sokratis next?

  68. Bamford10

    Ishola

    I also said we need to improve at CDM and CB, so no one is going to be strolling through our center.

    As for Bellerin, I don’t think he is as weak as some here do, but if he is the liability you think he is, sell him for 35m and sign a more reliable RB.

  69. alexanderhenry

    Ishola

    ‘Is getting in a new GK and RB this summer going to see the team seriously competing if there is still such a soft midfield centre defensively’.

    No, but i’m sure your question is rhetorical.

    Arsenal need to spend big to stand any chance of competing next season.
    The club currently have less money in the bank than they’ve had in recent years, and unless we win the Europa, there will be no CL money.

    We could sell players to increase the transfer budget but who exactly?
    Ramsay is worth maybe £30 to £40 million, wilshire £20 to £30 million. Lacazette, around £40 million if we’re lucky.

    I’m sure arsenal could find improvements on the above for equivalent prices, but it’s a very hard way of doing things.

  70. Ishola70

    It’s unlikely Bamford that all four positions will be changed in the first XI in the summer.

    And unfortunately more than likely come next season Arsenal will still have a soft centre midfield with Xhaka in it.

  71. Marko

    Is getting in a new GK and RB this summer going to see the team seriously competing if there is still such a soft midfield centre defensively?

    No one is saying target those positions before the midfield and defence obviously those areas are vital this summer but your argument that the RB position should be sorted before the goalkeeper one is not something I agree with. Replacing cech is far more important than replacing Bellerin.

  72. Marko

    We could sell players to increase the transfer budget but who exactly?
    Ramsay is worth maybe £30 to £40 million, wilshire £20 to £30 million. Lacazette, around £40 million if we’re lucky.

    Wilshere nothing you mean.

  73. Bamford10

    In terms of generating cash, selling Xhaka, Lacazette and/or Bellerin makes sense because each is either not good enough for the starting XI (X and L) or can be replaced in the XI for less money than he’d go for in the market (B).

    For me, Ramsey is good enough for the starting XI and his replacement would cost just as much as he would go for in the market; therefore there’s no real advantage to selling him. IMO.

  74. Ishola70

    Bellerin has been dismantled defensively by one certain player and shown up at other times.

    And on occasions he has been dismantled while being in place defensively. Not out of position. Just not that good defensively more than enough times.

    It’s all irrelevant though when we talk about priorities and realistic changes occurring in the first XI over a short term period.

    DM and CB are the first priorities. GK and RB second priorities.

  75. Marko

    can be replaced in the XI for less money than he’d go for in the market (B).

    So what do you think we can get for Bellerin? And who’s replacing him that’s cheaper?

    For me, Ramsey is good enough for the starting XI and his replacement would cost just as much as he would go for in the market; therefore there’s no real advantage to selling him. IMO

    He’s not and the advantage would be if his replacement was better.

  76. Ishola70

    alexanderhenry
    “I’m sure arsenal could find improvements on the above for equivalent prices, but it’s a very hard way of doing things.”

    That’s the way it is AH with the way the club is run.

    Can’t do a Man City and change manager as well as virtually changing the first XI over a short time period.

    Things have got to be done gradually and priorities made.

  77. Marko

    Reus would be nice if he could stay fit for 5 minutes at a time.

    He signed a new deal there recently. Besides he’s the definition of crocked. Shame because he was one of the absolute best around

  78. Bamford10

    Marko

    I think you mean that you don’t think he’s good enough for the XI. This is an opinion, not a fact. Some here agree with you; others don’t. You’ve given me a hard time in the past for treating my opinions as facts; now you’re the one doing this.

    You have your opinion, I have mine, and others have theirs. This is the way of the world.

  79. WengerEagle

    Marko

    Ironic that Tomas Rosicky is Reus’ hero, isn’t it?

    Both will be immortalised as what could have been players, Reus imo with the higher ceiling given his production in addition to his ability.

    Unless he were to follow in RVP’s footsteps recovery-wise, which is unlikely.

  80. Victorious

    Kroenke and the BOD are bringing down the values and standards of this great club to an alarming all time low

    Would only consider Tuchel if Simeone,Allegri, Jardim,Ancelloti,Sarri,Hussenhut(spelling?),Conte are unavailable

  81. Bamford10

    Victorious

    You’re right: let’s hire someone from a Japanese club, preferably if he was dismissed by Monaco prior to that.

    That’s Arsenal’s previous level of manager hire, so you know.

    Tell us why you don’t think Tuchel is good enough.

  82. Marko

    Dahoud as well I still believe is a prospect, hasn’t really done anything to merit this assertion since he’s joined Dortmund mind you.

    Dahoud is class. Quietly going about his job as a CM he doesn’t need any goals and assists statistics to tell me he’d be a good signing

  83. Ishola70

    What do people want and expect from Tuchel?

    Is he the man to get this club to finally be more defensively responsible and concede less goals? Is he the man to shake off the naivety that this team has been branded and associated with for so long?

    If the answer is no or you are not sure then it is not worth hiring him.

  84. alexanderhenry

    Ishola

    Right now, i’d take him. The club needs change.

    If he fails after a couple of seasons, we fire him and get someone else in. In other words, Arsenal fc need to get back to functioning like a proper football club.

  85. Marko

    Come on Bam you suggested Bellerin be sold and replaced easily for practically the or less money. Who do you have in mind?

    Yeah of course it’s an opinion on Ramsey much like a few others opinions on Xhaka are just that opinions but of course you can look with your own eyes and see for example that Xhaka can’t be trusted in midfield the two seasons with us and you can also look with your own eyes and see that Ramsey also cannot be trusted in midfield as well. Opinions facts whatever you want to call it we currently have the worst midfield group we’ve probably EVER had under Wenger I don’t think that you will find many who would disagree with that and we’re not so bad just because of a Xhaka it’s all of them all are not good enough if we ever want to challenge for major honours. Ramsey doesn’t get a pass because he’s slightly better than Xhaka he’s been here for 8 years injury plagued and bar the 6 months just before the Shawcross incident suffers with consistency. You’re right when you say he’s good enough for the starting 11 but that’s if we’ve no hope of competing for major honours otherwise no he’s not good enough to start for a title challenging side

  86. WengerEagle

    Bamford

    For those positions:

    GK- Oblak (pie in the sky), Allison (Roma), Handanovic (Inter Milan), Donnarumma (AC Milan), Leno (Bayer Leverkusen).

    CB: Skriniar (Inter Milan), Koulibaly (Napoli), Jonathan Tah (Bayer Leverkusen), Lucas Hernandez (pie in the sky), Murillo (Valencia), Manolas (Roma).

    CM: Fabinho (Monaco), Kovacic (Real Madrid), Kevin Kampl (RB Leipzig), Milinkovic-Savic (Lazio), Dani Parejo (Extremely loyal to Valencia, could be a problem), Ever Banega (Sevilla), Allan (Napoli), Bruno Fernandes (Sporting Lisbon).

    Emre Can on a free you wouldn’t say no to as well.

  87. Marko

    What do people want and expect from Tuchel?

    Unknown but right now you take the unknown. It’s like with most of the attainable managers we could get you won’t know until you see who it is they’re signing imo. With Tuchel I’d be confident of him addressing the midfield. The defence I’m not so sure about

  88. Victorious

    Banford
    “Tell us why you don’t think Tuchel
    is good enough.”

    Klopp left a well functioning Dortmund team for Tuchel and he ended up tearing the apart with Dortmund playing their worst football in a very long time,he his very naive defensively,might even be worst than Wenger in that regard

    What has he really done to manage a club such as Arsenal? forgive me if I’m not sqirting in my pants for a manger who couldn’t even cut it in Dortmund,he won’t be good enough,he has only one way of play(counter attack? with zero dynamism on tactical play

    The EPL is a different beast and our fans won’t be as forgiving to his shortcomings,the fact that no poster here pens him as a preferred top 5 target should tell you all you need to know

  89. WengerEagle

    Not mad keen on Tuchel, he petered out at Dortmund a bit after a strong start. Didn’t really recruit well either.

    Having said that, I’d take anyone else over another year of the Wenger show.

  90. Ishola70

    Any new manager coming in doesn’t have a complete revamp job on.

    The issues at the club are defensive ones and the mentality. A naive mentality.

  91. TR7

    If Tuchel fails he will be shown the door. A certain Arsene Wenger is untouchable and this is what worries me more than Tuchel’s ability or lack of it.

  92. TR7

    Bayern Munich is run by legends of the game. They are one of the best run clubs in the world. If BM thinks he is good enough for them he can’t be too bad I guess. Besides as I said he will be sacked if he fails to perform. I will take anyone over another season under Wenger

  93. Michael24

    Any Aussies out there?

    Neighbours, Home and Away., Kylie, Jason, Mel Gibson, Dennis Lillie, Paul Hogan, INXS. etc, you took one hell of a beating!

    Er, yeh mate, we were cheating, sorry about that.

    Always knew they could never lose graciously.

    The Ashes should be null and void.

  94. Marko

    he his very naive defensively,might even be worst than Wenger in that regard

    Absolutely not even remotely true.

    fact that no poster here pens him as a preferred top 5 target should tell you all you need to know.

    The list to replace Wenger is significantly more than 5 and he would be on that list

  95. Michael24

    Come on guys, imagine if the shoe was on the other foot. The Aussies would be ribbing us for years.

    I know this is a football blog, but isn’t it wonderful to know we have this in our armoury for future events.

    It’s take the piss out of the Aussies day………. Hallelujah!!!!!

  96. Michael24

    Either you lot don’t have a life away from Football, or you can’t fathom the enormity of this day.

    Come on @victorious, even you must know where Australia is.

  97. Ishola70

    Roughing up a cricket ball happens all the time.

    The mistake the Australians made on this occasion was allowing an inexperienced player to rough up the ball.

    More experienced players would not have been caught roughing the ball up.

  98. Ishola70

    How much money do people think Arsenal have to address these defensive issues in the team?

    They have put plenty out on offensive players with fees and wages what with the new recent deals for Ozil, Mhiki and Aubemeyang.

    There is not going to be lots left over.

    So rather than focusing on individual players to come in on big transfer fees and wages the club have got to try to be cute and bring in not necessarily high profile players for these positions but rather players that can perform and improve the team under an overall system and overseen by a new manager.