Weak reaction in player meeting says it all about this Wenger built squad

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The Guardian led with a story about the team meeting that happened with the Arsenal players after the cup final defeat last week.

The speech was delivered by one of the senior players in the Arsenal dressing room but he did not finish it. He was too choked up as he reflected on how such a talented squad had come to resemble a bunch of drifters. He said his children were asking him why Arsenal were so bad. That was the moment when the tears welled in his eyes.

Another Arsenal player stepped in. “We are a big club,” he said, tapping into the rallying cry theme. “But we need more help from the coaches.” That was when the damning judgment was articulated. It had actually been the motivation for the players to gather in the first place – without Arsène Wenger. “It’s not going to happen,” one of them said. “We need to find the answers ourselves.”

Not really a huge amount of detail.

A few things stuck out to me. Firstly it’s sad that anyone’s family is being bullied because Arsenal are pony. I mean, we’re average, but we’re not quite to the levels where bullying is acceptable.

Secondly, it’s quite staggering how weak it all reads. Arsene Wenger has built the perfect squad of players in that sense. No one has the guts to challenge the status quo (bar Jack), and when they have a team meeting, no one is shouting, it’s just all a big ball of emotions.

What were the tangible outtakes? What did the players take to the coach? What was the output?

Another fucking loss, that’s what.

Wenger ripped out all the players that gave him lip. Robin Van Persie used to scout and tap up players for him back in the day. Gael Clichy used to challenge him. Cesc was demanded more. All moved on while we’re happily served up 12 years of Theo Walcott.

I’ve written in the past about the interesting lack of curiosity the players have when it comes to sorting things out themselves. It’s clear a lot of them are here just for the easy ride, we’re a lifestyle club. If Koscielny was so upset about his kids getting ribbed for being average, he should have left when he was at the peak of his powers like Sanchez.

I do feel for the players, but at the same time, they’re all as much a part of this debacle as the manager. Chelsea’s players downed tools a season after winning the league in protest of Mourinho being an awful human. I can’t remember the exact issues of Bruce Rioch, but I’m pretty sure Ian Wright gave the club an ultimatum. Our best player who has more in-season mini breaks than Donald Trump, waited until January when we were 6th to sign a new deal. All about the money. Hardly elite thinking?

There’s a reason Wenger has kept coasters around for so long, they’ll never bite back. That’s why a lot of people want a Simeone type character back at the club. Bring someone in who can discipline the squad and rip out the weak parts. Build a foundation for the future. I don’t think we need that, but I understand the thinking.

That article made me emotion initially, but then it just felt like the exact sort of reaction you’d expect from a group of players who really aren’t interested in the project, or winning major trophies.

All the more reason for Wenger to go, all the more reason not to worry too much about which players leave this summer.

My big worry at the moment is this super bad run has happened far too early in the season. Wenger still has time to pull off a good run in the Europa League, and he still has the chance to make a nearly attempt at the top 4.

I hope the club can see beyond that. If I’m honest, the bravest thing our emotionally depleted players could do right now is down tools and let the season collapse even further. If we’re going to go out this season, let’s do it in a shameful bang and make it count this season. I’d take a year out Europe to fix our issues and bring back a bit of excitement to the club.

Finally, even Peter Hill-wood is done.

“I clearly am not very happy about what is going on,”

“I think that there probably ought to be a change of management.

“He has done fabulously well, it is just he has overstayed his welcome.

“I find it very sad because he was the great love of many and then it (overstaying his welcome) has destroyed it all.”

I remember him waffling on at the AGMs like the all-knowing wizard of Arsenal, snarking at fans upset with Wenger. Looks like this is his apology tour quote.

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  1. Elmo

    For anyone holding the delusion that Wenger is on the verge of walking voluntarily:

    “Am I still the right man? Yes, because I’ve done it before. I believe a quality of a manager is to try to shorten a crisis. I believe I can do that.”

    That’s what he’s selling now. Not top 4. Not silverware. Not a team soon to reach a peak. He’s selling the ability to shorten a crisis.

  2. HighburyLegend

    If wenger himself gives up for the 4th spot, maybe that means that the 6th spot is the new Arsenal target standard ?? lol

  3. Wenker-wanger

    Bit jaded, lost focus, short of confidence……Wenger’s latest sorry excuses.
    I can’t even state his ramblings about trousers shirts etc…..that is an excuse dreamt up in an asylum. Nutter!

  4. thank you and goodnight

    I said last year with wenger at hell we’ll either get relegated this year or we’d be nearer the bottom than the top of the table. 33 points off the top and 25 points off the bottom…….Seems us wobs were right again. Oh well there’s always next season for le cunt to get us relegated

  5. Ishola70

    Elmo
    “For anyone holding the delusion that Wenger is on the verge of walking voluntarily”

    I don’t think anyone thought that really did they. May have hoped but not really believed it.

    Man is too proud and stubborn and delusional at this point.

    Shame that it is going to end with him kicking and screaming but there it is.

  6. Marko

    Also, in the second half, @57:45, Xhaka was subject to a leg-breaking tackle in the box by Brighton #6, D. Stephens, and had to withdraw his foot, tumbling as a result. Had he not, he would have been out on a stretcher.

    Had to share this. This is a lad on untold talking about the Xhaka dive in the box in a post about the referee being shit. The general mood over there is apathy mixed with the occasional why complain it does more harm than good. Just general noise really

  7. David Smith

    Ishola, Xhaka wasn’t shit in Germany, nor is he for Switzerland where he has a proper supporting and coaching structure that Wenger denies them.
    Judge the players when , hopefully, we get proper manager and coaches, until then, salute them for hastening wengers demise

  8. Ishola70

    And a certain poster here tells us that fans really have no influence in enabling Wenger to continue but when you read that shite from Marko that he has shared from Untold it is frightening and worrisome.

    What actually happened was both players were going in for the ball and Xhaka did the most cowardly thing a pro can do on a football pitch. He turned his back on man and ball. A bigger puss has never been seen on a football field.

  9. Emiratesstroller

    The club must recognise by now that the team is shot to pieces and completely rudderless.

    You need only look at Wenger sitting alongside Steve Bould throughout most games with absolutely no communication or eye contact to recognise the malaise in the club. They sit together like dummies.

    The way that we are playing at the moment we are going to struggle to win another game this season.

    There is going to be a queue of players wanting to leave the club at end of season which has been already a very clear indication over last 12 months just how bad the situation has got under Wenger.

    It is time for hierarchy to recognise that situation is irreversible under Wenger’s management and take decisive action. There needs to be announcement made no later than next week after presumably we have been knocked out of Europa Cup by AC Milan.

  10. Ishola70

    David Smith
    ” Xhaka wasn’t shit in Germany, nor is he for Switzerland where he has a proper supporting and coaching structure that Wenger denies them.
    Judge the players when , hopefully, we get proper manager and coaches, until then, salute them for hastening wengers demise”

    Sorry D Smith I have seen enough of Xhaka now to know he is neither really effective as a player coupled with a poor personality on a football pitch. In short he is a goof as a footballer.

    I’m sure he wasn’t shit all the time playing in Germany and for Switzerland but you can bet he was sure as hell over-rated.

    Come on let it go. The Swiss have never had a reputation for producing real top drawer quality players on the contrary they have more of a reputation for players that disappoint and Xhaka is no exception.

  11. TheBayingMob

    “There is going to be a queue of players wanting to leave the club at end of season“

    Easier said than done in most cases especially when you’ve been cruising in easy street for the last 10 years with Uncle Weng letting you bake your cake and eat it, plus, money buys you silence and loyalty in the disgustingly corrupt and greedy world of football and Kim Jong loves a bit of loyalty from his well paid lazy cunt of a squad. Look at Özil. Would have jumped if he could but instead took 350k a week. It’s a tough life at Arsenal …

  12. Wenker-wanger

    Xhaka has his limitations…in fact quite a few. He is a liability for us under Wenger.
    However even he would improve under a decent coach.
    He needs to operate as a DM and be constantly reminded to stay behind the ball preferably close to our defense.

  13. Ishola70

    Wenker-wanger
    “Xhaka has his limitations…in fact quite a few. He is a liability for us under Wenger.
    However even he would improve under a decent coach.
    He needs to operate as a DM and be constantly reminded to stay behind the ball preferably close to our defense.”

    It’s going to be difficult for him though isn’t it.

    He has his physical limitations coupled with his suspect temperament/personality tripled with his brain seizures. That’s quite a lot of problems for a DM.

    He always had others do the real donkey work for him in previous sides and Swiss national team.

    Over-rated was coined for this player.

  14. Ishola70

    Told you guys before since Wenger’s love affair with this football player the team has gone down the tube.

    Of course Wenger was on the wane and is now done but Xhaka just exacerbated events.

    Wenger’s go-to player.

  15. Wenker-wanger

    Ishola,
    Like I said xhaka is barely useful at the moment, but look at the difference in the much-criticized oxlade now.
    Fans on here thought he was absolute crap..not me….
    And so it proves that Wenger is like a disease to talented players.
    Xhaka may well improve significantly…
    I wouldn’t be that surprised.
    Imagine playing for Wenger,…your spirit would soon start to dwindle

  16. Dissenter

    They need to save Wenger from himself.
    Tell him privately that this season is his last and start the search for a new manager.
    Every manager contacted has to swear to secrecy. Any manager that has news leaked is automatically disqualified from further contacts.
    There’s not upcoming manager who would look at the squad, at least the attacking players and object to signing to secrecy.

  17. Dissenter

    It speaks volumes about Davide Astori that the tire league games were shut down for him
    Everyone who came into contact with this lad was touched by him, every club her players for, every team mate he had and every manager who coached him are all in shock.
    He has to be a very special human being, forget the footballer part of him. Even the Italian PM is speaking off him.
    It has to be a special human being that can stop an entire country in it’s tracks.
    Addio to someone so special.

  18. Pierre

    Bamford
    “Anyone who doesn’t irrationally hurl abuse at Kroenke is a “Kroenke-lover”. Just another straw-man.”

    Should not the same reasoning be used regarding Wenger.

  19. David Smith

    Ishola, BM made Xhaka a very young captain. He was and is highly rated there .And yes the Swiss are not a world power, but he plays alongside a very effective defensive MF and plays well
    Basically, he got sent off a couple of times and Wenger used it as an excuse to neuter him, and try and turn him into Arteta.
    Xhaka , mustafi, so many others would be so much better of coaches, something the fuckwit that manages us will not allow, primarily because he cannot coach and would resent anyone else that can.
    Wenger is killing players , the examples are everywhere.
    Stan, fucking up expensive players, that’s called asset depreciation, you might not understand football, but hopefully you understand that term.

  20. Pierre

    Have to say that Arsenal’s first half performance today was worse than anything we have seen previously.

    Brighton looked fitter, stronger and braver than Arsenal.

    Just a point about the city v Chelsea game today….
    City may not have won by 3 goals but it was equally as comfortable as their win over arsenal.
    Chelsea did not want to come out of their defensive shell, even though they were losing, as they knew they would be ripped apart by city.

    Let’s see if the pundits and media rip into them the way they ripped into arsenal for losing a cup final…… . I doubt it…

  21. Ishola70

    David SmithMarch 4, 2018 22:33:37
    ” you might not understand football, but hopefully you understand that term.”

    lol Smudger.

    For the record sir I have actually called quite a few things on here on this footy blog so to dismissed as absolutely clueless seems a tad harsh. Of course I’ve called other things incorrect as well. Not oracles are we

    Well, well for the love of Xhaka eh lol. You obviously are very defensive of him.

    Plenty share my view Smudge.

  22. Bamford10

    Pierre

    Sure, but Wenger deserves the abuse he gets, and you get the shit you get because you’ve spent your time here trying to rationalize Arsenal’s failings and failures under Wenger.

    People don’t abuse you because you don’t throw invective Wenger’s way or because you apportion blame in a reasonable manner. The opposite: you turn reason on its head in order to rationalize his failures and the team’s failures.

  23. Ishola70

    Wenker-wanger
    ” but look at the difference in the much-criticized oxlade now.
    Fans on here thought he was absolute crap..not me…”

    I didn’t think he was crap either. TR7 and myself used to quite regularly speak up for the guy on here.

    I’m afraid can’t say the same for Xhaka though.

    And judging by TR7’s posts he is of the same thinking. Rated Ox but doesn’t rate Xhaka at all.

    Again some players are not up to it regardless of Wenger and to just state that such and such and some the whole team lol will become stars once Wenger leaves is the easy way out and lazy thinking.

  24. David Smith

    Ishola, you have taken that the wrong way, rhetorically aimed at Stan, hence his name at the start of the paragraph, not that Stan would ever read it of course.
    Don’t always agree 100% with you, but you write some good posts and would not disrespect you in such a way I can assure you!

  25. Bamford10

    Xhaka is garbage. He might be a bit better under a different manager, but he’ll never be a good player at this level. He’s slow, slow-thinking, and he makes terrible decisions both with the ball and without. That yellow card foul today? Fucking asinine. The pass back at the end of the game when the ball was going out that almost gave them a breakaway? Equally asinine. He’s terrible.

    As I’ve said before, he looks the part but lacks substance. Not a good player at all.

  26. Bamford10

    While I had given up on Oxlade a bit towards the end — his decision-making was just so bad — I always defended him here on account of his technical ability, his athleticism and his promise. There were even times when I was the only one defending him here and was abused for it. He always had a polished touch, explosiveness and technical ability. But he was never given proper instruction, never given in a single, well-defined role. He is yet another player that Wenger failed.

  27. Bob

    Sanchez was sold just so iwobi can play in the wings.
    Not a single natural fast tricky winger at arsenal.
    The midfield of xhaka and wilshere is not even fit for the championship.

  28. Bob

    Few of the arsenal players need to hold Alex iwobi down and RIP he’s hair out just so he can see what he’s doing. I’m sure if they pull hard enuf it will come off.

  29. Ishola70

    The whole midfield needs a revamp and yes Wilshere is very over-rated by plenty of Arsenal fans. It’s because he has got some ability and the best part of his game and he still has it is he can beat a player on the spin with a sharp turn when he receives the ball. Fans like to see that. It can be eye catching but his overall play is over-rated. And of course he is seen as one of the boys home bred so fans like that aspect. He is never going to hit the heights now. Too worn as a player. He can look good at times but just as much now an ineffectual overweight dwarf.

  30. Ishola70

    Bob I just saw the start of your team and you have Ospina in there.

    What’s that about? Give over Bob lol

  31. Pierre

    Bamford
    “Sure, but Wenger deserves the abuse he gets, and you get the shit you get because you’ve spent your time here trying to rationalize Arsenal’s failings and failures under Wenger.”

    And the successes…

    And if, as you say, Wenger deserves the abuse then surely kronke deserves the abuse and what about the abuse thrown your way by some posters, is it deserved?

  32. Ishola70

    David Smith
    “you have taken that the wrong way, rhetorically aimed at Stan, hence his name at the start of the paragraph, not that Stan would ever read it of course.
    Don’t always agree 100% with you, but you write some good posts and would not disrespect you in such a way I can assure you!”

    Ah no worries. You can have a dis at me on here if you wanted. No problem. I’ve been told I do that to others on here so can’t cry in the milk about that if it occurs.

    Just think some get a bit Wenger obsessive at times that’s all when talking about individual players.

  33. Pierre

    Ishola
    “He can look good at times but just as much now an ineffectual overweight dwarf.”

    May I remind you that there may be dwarfs who frequent Le Grove who could be offended by your Comment.

  34. Ishola70

    Pierre

    ”May I remind you that there may be dwarfs who frequent Le Grove who could be offended by your Comment.”

    Jack may be offended. Sorry Jack.

    You could have been one of the greats. Could have been. Oh well

  35. Peter12

    Sorry to mention UTarse, but when I said ‘Our locker is empty’ yesterday before the Brighton game, I wasn’t wrong, was I?

    But anyway, just a detail but did you see their second goal today? They had a player runnng down their right hand side, there were 3 players in the box (2 of ours, 1 of theirs) about on the 6-yard line and our GK. And we had 4 additional defender/midfielders on our 18yd line. One cross from the right winger, and single Brighton player inside our box we had 7 players of our own against 1 of theirs, result? He score with one touch (header!) Shameful. You would not see that at a kick-about on Sunday morning in the park. Shameful! They should be made to donate their astronomical weekly salaries to charity before sacking all 7 of them. All 7 of them for dereliction of basic duties, ALL BEFORE CONTEMPLATING SELLING AARON RAMSEY! I am not saying he is brilliant but there were at least 13 players on the field in our team (including who deserve to have their contracts terminated. But above all, Wenger should be made to pay back the salaries that he collected in the last 10 years for professional negligence of the squad plus (at least) £40m he lost the club by refusing to sell Alexis to City last Summer. That makes £120m approx in my book he would be made to pay before being marched out of the Emirates bare-footed all the way To Calais. Re-entry to be refused! I would enjoy that.

  36. David Smith

    He wont be sacked until the lawyers sort it, maybe when we go out of the europa league , or more likely, at the end of the season. And I would imagine it won’t be called a sacking, mutual departure or whatever

  37. Akilan

    By the EPL standards, Chelsea are a club in crisis. They’ll sack their manager after the Barca game. They lost to us last month over two legs.
    But it’s nothing compared to us. It’s irrelevant to arsenal right now, because we’d bite their hands off to be in their position. We are a laughing stock. No point in moaning about how the media covers them.

  38. Mick Kartun

    What will be discussed at the Next team talk? Shopping at JD Sports or Top Shop? French Connection is not worth it, so a New Look is needed. More like the Tie Rack on current performance, or Disney Store . What i do know Wegner, is that you are stuck in Past Times, and the Board can no longer continue with the Pound Land approach. Time to move yourself to the Body Shop. The old goof seems to be going insane. We need him out now and get him some treatment.

  39. TonyD

    “Let’s see if the pundits and media rip into them the way they ripped into arsenal for losing a cup final…… . I doubt it…”

    Chelsea had no strikers, no fight and no ambition which is not how champions should play… plus find out who makes my team of the weekend

    Chelsea’s performance away to Manchester City was not how champions play

    What fans saw on Sunday at the Etihad Stadium was a crime against football

    The Blues lined up without a striker and showed no hunger to get forward

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5461117/Chelsea-no-strikers-no-fight-no-ambition-against-Man-City.html#ixzz58qSpUTHE

    “Antonio Conte is to blame for Chelsea’s defeat to Manchester City… the Italian manager has the look of a man who has one foot out of the door”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5460867/Antonio-Conte-blame-Chelseas-defeat-Manchester-City.html#ixzz58qTADhNI

    “Manchester City 1-0 Chelsea PLAYER RATINGS: David Silva stars but Eden Hazard has a day to forget”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5460623/Manchester-City-1-0-Chelsea-PLAYER-RATINGS-Bernando-Silva-seals-win.html#ixzz58qTZqWfe

    That do it for you Pierre?

  40. gonsterous

    lmfao what has crying in the dressing room achieved now ? players are just showing up for the pay check ( at least wenger taught them some thing )

  41. gonsterous

    What can I say? The League Cup in the middle of the season makes it difficult if you don’t win it. It brings a lot of negative waves.
    On top of that, the rearranged game on Thursday night [against City] didn’t help us to compete today. The negativity after losing the final, plus the fact we’re not in a fantastic position in the league, hits us hard. Am I still the right man? Yes, because I’ve done it before.

    when will the excuses stop ??

  42. GuNZ

    Come, Arsene, it is time. Let us board the last ship into The West and travel to a green land, under a swift sunrise, where trousers and shirts are plentiful and can be worn at the same time. Come, Arsene, your flabby lips and rheumy, mad, staring eyes have had their day. The time of the Dorks is over, the time of the sensible, modern manager has come.

  43. TonyD

    So onto Milan away Thursday and then Watford at home 3 days later.

    We don’t travel well in the UK, going to a resurgent Milan under Gattuso will be a miracle if we got anything from that game, especially with Welbeck leading the line.

    Mikhi won’t be playing but he’s completely shown us why Jose wanted to be rid of him in his last 3 games – total dross in all 3 games – exactly what I said he was.

    We seem to lose more games than we win with Wilshire playing, so maybe Ramsey will get a reprieve to play even though he’s on his way out.

    Watford are better than Brighton and Ostersunds, so ………….

    Could be by next Sunday evening we will have lost 5 games in a row.

  44. TonyD

    The best reply fans can give is to leave the Emirates empty next Sunday and for the Stoke game.

    Easy for me to say living 7000km away I know, but isn’t it time for the fans to vote with their feet?

    Financially it won’t hurt the club that much with STs sold, but match day revenue will be down from the sundries sold at the stadium.

    Sponsors will not like it and it’s the only way to really show Wenger, Kroenke and the BoD what’s going on with the fans.

    It can be ignored by the Kroenkes but it can’t be not seen and if Gazidis is looking for support to nail Wenger, then at least he will be getting from the fans to at least state his case to Kroenke.

    If the fans can boycott just 2 games: Watford and Stoke they will have done all they can.

    Be interesting if the clubs states that there were 58,000 in attendance with an empty stadium all bar the travelling fans.

    If that doesn’t give Kroenke the impetus to fire Wenger, then at least it will be confirmed that the club does not care about the fans in any way whatsoever and the press will have a hay day.

  45. Emiratesstroller

    The issue today is no longer just about Wenger and his coaching staff, but the
    overall demise of the club’s playing performance.

    Let’s leave aside our defeats to Manchester City who are in a different class at moment to Arsenal and focus on the other games we have lost since January.

    We have lost at home to a Swedish Club in Europa Cup who would not make the EPL plus of course losing to Bournemouth, Swansea and now Brighton.

    The way that we are now playing is RELEGATION form. In any other club that
    would trigger a reaction from Major Shareholder and Board of Directors to
    SACK the Manager.

    The performance of our Goalkeeper and Defence has been poor all season, but
    is now at the point of complete Collapse. Cech makes schoolboy errors and
    Koscielny a seasoned French International looks totally out of sorts with his
    game.

    The midfield and attack is now looking totally toothless despite our investment in last two transfer windows in Lacazette, Aubameyang and Mkhitaryan.

    We have seen over the last two years players like Sanchez, Ozil, Bellerin and Oxlade-Chamberlain pushing to leave the club.

    There has been a catalogue of other departures with replacements showing little or no upgrade or improvement.

    The club has recognised that it needs to make changes in the backroom by
    appointing a Football Director, Chief Scout and Contract Negotiator, but the
    reality is that the real problem remains the same with Manager and Coaching
    team keeping their jobs.

    Arsenal’s staff is at the moment grossly bloated and underperforming at ALL
    LEVELS.

    We have reached 45 points so we are not going to be relegated this season, but
    the reality is that could easily finish 10th in EPL the way we are playing at moment with a queue of players wanting to leave at end of season. In some cases
    that would be frankly a blessing.

    My view was that the club should plan for end of season before forcing Wenger to leave. NOW the situation has become so CRITICAL that we need to
    make a change immediately even it is to bring in an interim head coach until
    end of season.

    Wenger and Bould need to go and quickly.

  46. gonsterous

    would be nice if the fans boy cotted the stadium but sadly the fans are a bunch of middle aged men with no hobbies on the weekend and need to get out of the house to do something. so they drop 80 quid to go watch a game and have a couple of drinks.

  47. Guernsey gun

    2 more seasons of clueless and you can all look forward to away days at Leeds and forest…..it’s that bad, but some on here will scoff at that. Big bad Troy rolls into town after our little foray to Italy mid week. If kos was crying last week he will be after Troy slams him around like a rag doll. Let’s hope kroenke gets his offense right and his defense. Needs to up his coaching game big time. I reckon a draw would be heralded as a corner turned by the resident rim crew.

  48. TonyD

    Mick K
    Would be funny if this is just a wind up as the owner is Ursmanov’s partner.

    Why would any self respecting and successful businessman want a failed manager?

  49. kc

    Just to clear the record, Stan Kroenke is not from, nor does he reside in Texas. Saw that written here earlier. He was born and still lives in Missouri. He recently purchased the largest ranch under one fence in Texas, but he doesn’t live there. He just bought it as another trophy, and proceeded to kick out all the residents that grew up on that land. One even committed suicide. It’s just another asset to add to the portfolio. You know sort of like Arsenal.

  50. UTarse

    ES,
    Good post, I agree with everything you say, but as tonyd and redtruth (whom I know you don’t give any credit to) and I have called for, do you not agree even now (as you say it has become critical) that fans should vote with their feet and boycott a game or 2 ? NOW is the time for this, we are in relegation form and we can’t afford not to take this opportunity surely ?

    Stan is as much deluded as wenger but the fans CAN persuade the right outcome, a close to empty stadium for a weekend game (whereby the weather cannot be blamed anymore) will surely seal his fate ?

    Common sense no ?

  51. mysticleaves

    UTarse
    Damn right. Apart from people that still want Wenger to stay, no one else should go to matches. I mean, the football is even bad to start with. The players aren’t performing (on purpose maybe) and we win, draw or lose in the same proportions, nothing is a given anymore.

    I have fully paid subscription on European matches but yesterday I didn’t even remember the match was on. And when I realized I was better off coming on here than watching the last 10mins. Not even because I was protesting but because there was nothing to look forwards to.

    This is the time. vote with your feet. stay away from the stadium for Just 2 matches!!

  52. Emiratesstroller

    U’Tarse

    Actually I have been to only 2 games since New Year. This is partly due to apathy, but also for health reasons. The tickets have been farmed out.

    Personally I do think that Wenger is on his way out.

    The response I got from Arsenal following my email suggests that he has very
    little support within the club. The writing is on the wall.

    I think that if Arsenal lose against AC Milan the club will take immediate action. Otherwise we will have to wait until end of season.

    There needs to be a clean broom with fresh ideas and above all some discipline in the way we play.

  53. Ishola70

    Don’t think anyone picked up on it here and maybe not much significance but in that presser yesterday Wenger said words along the line of his usual I have been in the game a long time but then added straight after “I know what is going on”

    It’s like he implied he is not stupid. Now he could have meant that he knows what is going on in regards to addressing the problems with the team and of course he is a proud man who is fronting it out atm but certain things we are hearing from within the club regarding the players and seen such as new staff brought in and decisions obviously made above his head on the playing side that line he uttered “I know what is going on” could well imply that he knows he is being ousted from within the club.

  54. Barking Arsene

    I can’t see them doing anything whilst we are still in the EL.

    After that, maybe. But not likely.

  55. TitsMcGee

    People trying to draw comparisons between Chelsea and us?

    They won the EPL a few months ago. They don’t usually flounder.

    Wenger last won the EPL almost 15 years ago. He gets embarrassed every season multiple times in Europe and domestically.

    Just more desperate reaching on behalf of the people trying to rationalize.

  56. WrightIsGod

    Mike

    “What will be discussed at the Next team talk? Shopping at JD Sports or Top Shop? French Connection is not worth it, so a New Look is needed. More like the Tie Rack on current performance, or Disney Store . What i do know Wegner, is that you are stuck in Past Times, and the Board can no longer continue with the Pound Land approach. Time to move yourself to the Body Shop. The old goof seems to be going insane. We need him out now and get him some treatment.”

    Brilliant.

  57. WrightIsGod

    On Wengers comments re congestion of matches….

    I was under the impression we played less games than most teams in Feb because we were out of the FA Cup.

    His first eleven players shouldn’t be tired what with no CL and the kids playing in Europa. What with Ozil on holiday every five minutes.

    Sure the last week saw 3 competitive games in a row Man City x 2 and Brighton, but isn’t a squad compiled for this very reason.

    Teams in the 80s used to play 50 odd domestic games and European cups with one sub a game.

  58. WrightIsGod

    Also idiots like Pierre talking about Chelsea.

    Conte has been getting it left right and centre but as it is not your team you are supervelous to it.

    Similar to the outside world only catching on that Arsenal are a spent force playing spent football. When you’re not consumed in that world a lot of it passes you by.

    Ask a Chelsea fan if Conte is under pressure you twat.

  59. Pierre

    There’s no other option

    Play ten at the back v Milan…

    Play kosielny, mustafi, mertesacker, holding, monreal, Kolasinac, bellerin, Chambers,AMN and the new Greek defender… Oh and ospina.

  60. TitsMcGee

    One nutter actually said got to keep Wenger if he wins Europa.

    Someone needs to explain why qualifying for a tournament he never wins should save Wenger’s job.