Wenger finished and he knows it.

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Wouldn’t it be nice if the press pushed Arsene for answers, versus goading him into a reaction for the back page of a rag?

I don’t care what his opinion is on his review is, he’s hardly going to want to talk about that right now.

“My job is to perform, I don’t ask if your position is reviewed..”

At least he knows his job is to perform. Not sure how he’ll frame this year as that, but whatever. Point is, I want to hear his thoughts on the problems at the club, and get into specifics.

  • Why is there such a consistent thread of failure against top 6 teams?
  • What are you going to change the narrative this Thursday?
  • How do you react when players are walking on the pitch in a cup final?
  • How do you assess player motivation?
  • Are players calling in sick?
  • Do you think Ozil’s constant vacations are a problem?

I personally think the press give Wenger an easy ride when they goad him. This happens almost every year, it’s the same reaction every time.

“I’ve turned the whole world down to respect my contracts,”

“My position is the last worry I have at the moment. My worry is to get the team focused and ready for tomorrow’s game.”

Absolute nothing comments. The press coverage is now about his loyalty, not his lack of understanding when it comes to Arsenal’s declining ability to compete at the highest level. I think the sad part about the comments he’s making is I’m not sure even he believes in what he’s saying. He looks clueless and lost. It’s sad, but as fans, we can’t feel bad about seeing Wenger in this mess. He stole that new contract last summer and we all knew what would happen.

Wenger needs to start rethinking his loyalty angle. We plucked him from Grampus 8 and gave him a platform to succeed. Sure, there were some years he could have gone to Madrid, but he’d have failed and died off as a top-flight manager 10 years ago and he’d not be in an elite job right now. He’s done very well out of Arsenal. His last 3 contracts have been gifts, he’s lucky to be running a big club right now. Hopefully we won’t double down on our dreadful summer mistake. Hopefully this is the end game.

Also, I appreciate he worked some wonders back in the day, but let’s not pretend the Arsenal job hasn’t been appealing, even in the dark times. Wenger’s loyalty wasn’t linked to club survival. Even in the dark times, he’s was still blasting £100m wage bills. A lot of our poverty in the transfer market was linked to him spending all his money on a failed socialist wage experiment. Irony of all ironies, in the socialist experiment, there was always one man who had to be the richest.

Interesting to see that John Cross has now turned on Wenger, you know that if he’s changed his tune from ‘careful what you wish for’ it’s because he’s been given permission to do so. Also fantastic to read that we’re tracking Jardim and Arteta. Not quite so keen on Brendan Rodgers, he’s not a bad coach, he’s just a bit of a prat. Would want us to steer clear of Loew, such a yer da signing.

This is a pretty detailed overview of Leonardo Jardim, the career coach from Madeira. We’re going to need a manager who extracts 110% out of players, a Pochettino style hire. I think Jardim has consistently demonstrated his ability to take on challenging situations and win out. He’s a great defensive coach, his Monaco side last year were next level in terms of attacking style, and he’s capable of adapting his vision based on the assets he has at his disposal. It’d also be nice to keep the Monaco heritage in our DNA.

I’m just praying we don’t make a regressive crowd pleaser signing. Go for the smartest coach, with the most exciting vision for the club. Interview and meet people. Make them work for the best job in the world.

I cannot wait people. Wenger is could be on the way out.

Anyway, we have the issue of City tomorrow. Not often a mega game like this goes on general sale, but hey, not often a club that charges £95 a ticket keeps a failing manager on the payroll at the expense of success.

Right, see you tomorrow for a plate of masochism.

Also, I did this video for Ball Street. Take a watch. I was next level hungover, so apologies.

PODCAST TOMORROW.

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  1. alexanderhenry

    Watching nbc and the American pundit is calling out the BOD and Kroenke.

    I’m impressed. He’s making more sense and being far more honest than most of the mealy mouthed English pundits.

  2. leftsidesanch

    You got to give it to these interviewers, if Wenger was stood infront of me doing his best Mr Burns/Mr Bean impression telling me about focusing on the next game but not acknowledging what went wrong I ‘d drop the mic and walk off.

    The guys on my tv as we speak blaming the criticism of Sundays performance as the reason for today’s meek surrender fidgeting and being irrational. There’s no real reason why he should be allowed to continue for the rest of the season.

  3. Carts

    We can all rest easy knowing Stan is at the helm though.”

    Same Stan who freed up over 100m sterling in less than 6 months for two striker.

  4. BillikenGooner

    What really should happen: He’s fired this weekend.

    What should happen #2 (because it’s “Arsene’s Arsenal”): Stan and Ivan go to Wenger and tell him, “We can announce your retirement at the end of the season now, or when the season is over. Your choice.”

    What will happen: Nothing.

  5. alexanderhenry

    Carts

    He didn’t free up anything.
    We made the money back on player sales and actually made a profit overall.

  6. DaveB666

    Just seen the texr comments on the BBC – we are closer to West Brom at the bottom than City at the top – f**k!

  7. Carts

    “Wenger has shown himself to be a fool . He could have walked last season with at least some of his reputation intact. Instead, he’s destroying his own legacy.”

    he should’v walked after we beat Hull in the FAC final. When he does leave, it’ll be impossible not to discuss this half of his tenure in just as greater detail as his first half.

  8. ArseneisaFraud

    For those who have watched the post match interview would have noticed that the last questions (about him still being the right man for the job) asked at the end were asked to show him up as the deluded man that he is.

  9. Guns of SF

    Can someone discern the boy- Josh K, and what his plans are?
    What is this shit?

    Also, would love to see someone come in with a bid for the club…. new ownership seems to be the only way to go.

    I know Im dreaming…. but after getting your asses handed to you within a week, what can you expect

  10. David Smith

    Apparently we have lost more games in 2018 than any other premier league team, guess that includes cup games that others have not faced, but still, yet another WTF statistic bought to us by the Kroenke Wenger show.

  11. alexanderhenry

    Carts

    So, are you happy with stan kroenke? Do you think he’s been doing a good job as owner of out great club? We were still good when he got involved in 2007.
    Now we’re shit.

  12. Guns of SF

    Goodbye defense. have your agents start looking now for another team. Good luck- only shit teams will even think of taking you on.

    Fuck it, I think we need an entirely new team

  13. Marko

    He didn’t free up anything.
    We made the money back on player sales and actually made a profit overall.

    Players we should have offloaded years ago. Wonder why we didn’t. I presume it’s because Stan rated Theo so highly

  14. Guns of SF

    Poor Auba – he looks jaded like all the rest.
    Not even played 3 games for us.
    He needs a hatrick next game to get his mojo back

  15. Guns of SF

    anyone spot Carlo in the stadium today? lol
    Fire Wenger now, Carlo will coach this weekend.
    Can get it done fast…. just get his asshole out now!

  16. Marko

    Alex you were doing so well recently but now you’re sinking back into your old shtick about Stan being the harbinger of death and conveniently not mentioning Wenger. Could it be the walls are finally closing in on him

  17. Champagne Charlie

    Marko
    Everyone and their dog knows Wenger is a busted flush, so no clearly not.

    Stan Kroenke though… what a hero.

    Banford
    There’s no deflection you ignorant cretin. You’re literally calling for the mans head yet refuse to condone the one person with the actual power to change things.

    Seriously, what the fuck do you “teach”?

  18. Carts

    Alexander

    We’ve been shit because of Wenger, nothing else. Kroenke let Wenger run up a mammoth wage bill, ffs.

    The issue is Wenger refusing to move on shite players, sooner. Put it this way, if Kroenke started pulling a Berlusconi, whereby he start meddling in the first team’s affairs, we’d all complain about him not allowing Wenger to do his job.

    If Kroenke vetoed everyone and moved on Walcott and Ox 3 seasons ago, everyone would say that we sold Theo and Ox too soon.

    Kroenke fucked up by not sacking Wenger. That’s it.

  19. Barking Arsene

    Kronke isn’t an Abramovic but there is no doubt that there are many other managers out there who could (and would) be successful with the resources we have.

    Wenger is a total disaster and needs removing. That is the problem.

    The Kronke angle is quite frankly a little boring at this point.

  20. alexanderhenry

    Marko

    It’s up to Stan to sort this mess out. Why doesn’t he?

    Bear in mind he reinstated wenger last season. There was no consultation with the BOD. Stan flew in, had a one on one meeting with Wenger, awarded him a new contract and promptly fucked off.

  21. Marko

    Everyone and their dog knows Wenger is a busted flush, so no clearly not. Stan Kroenke though… what a hero.

    Are you sure though I mean the week we just had and people are focusing on Stan instead of Wenger why? There doesn’t exist a scenario where the owner loses his job for the clubs failures it’s the manager always the buck stops with him. Which is incredibly convenient considering most of what’s wrong with the club is down to the useless manager

  22. alexanderhenry

    Carts

    Employing the right people is the most important aspect of running a football club.

    As an owner if you fail to do that, you’ve failed. Kroenke has failed.

  23. Champagne Charlie

    Barking

    Would you have extended Wengers contract in the summer?

    If not then how’s it boring exactly? Not ‘just Wenger’ more like.

  24. Carts

    I think Ancelotti would do well to steady the ship, but I’d much rather Saari or Jardim.

    In all honesty, I wouldn’t be averse to seeing Brenden Rodgers given a crack.

  25. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    You’re on a roll today, but go against the grain for once and actually represent what people are saying. Instead of the bs version you’re making up.

    Nobody has stated that Wenger is without fault, literally no one. But everyone on here is moaning about how he should be sacked, and your argument is the owner (who is the only one capable of sacking Wenger) shouldn’t be hit with any blame?

    You’re impressively slow in that case.

  26. Marko

    It’s up to Stan to sort this mess out. Why doesn’t he?Bear in mind he reinstated wenger last season. There was no consultation with the BOD. Stan flew in, had a one on one meeting with Wenger, awarded him a new contract and promptly fucked off.

    He’s a vacant owner for sure but none of that excuses Wenger or absolves him of anything. I thought I read it was Wenger who went around the board and went straight to Stan. You make it sound like Stan sought him out. Strange you’d spin it like that. Anyway like I said before we won’t know how bad Stan is as an owner until the decrepit fuck of a manager finally pisses off

  27. Guns of SF

    I said earlier that Im starting to feel Sarri.
    A no nonesense coach- smokes a storm. doesnt bother with transfers and just wants to coach and win.
    My only question is what does he do, when his vaunted attacks gets slowly countered by smart teams. Does he have a plan B? Right now, his plan A is killing it.
    The EPL is not like Serie A either….

    But he is an interesting choice. The dark horse…. could be good

  28. Barking Arsene

    Champagne.

    No, I wouldn’t have extended the contract.

    However, the boring aspect of the Kronke narrative is that it mainly focuses on the lack of investment. This simply isn’t a strong enough argument to have as there has beeen ample funding for Wenger to make a decent challenge on the title.

    He has consistently failed to do this.

    I have no argument with people taking issue over Kronke not sacking Wenger earlier, but that isn’t the main complaint that Ian usually put forward.

    Would you rather change the owner and give Wenger increased funding or change Wenger and let someone else utilise the already substantial wealth the club has?

  29. alexanderhenry

    If you’re an owner of a football club there is one thing you are reponsible for: hiring the right people.
    If- as in Stan’s case- you know nothing about football, you hire a CEO who does . If the club underperforms you sack that CEO and get someone else in.

    It’s very simple.

    And for the record, although I wouldn’t want an owner who meddles, I do not think it ‘sright for Arsenal football club to be owned by someone who knows nothing about football, doesn’t live here and owns four other teams.

    It’s not good enough.

  30. Marko

    Nobody has stated that Wenger is without fault, literally no one. But everyone on here is moaning about how he should be sacked, and your argument is the owner (who is the only one capable of sacking Wenger) shouldn’t be hit with any blame?

    Nobody stated is right. Literally after yet another embarrassing defeat for someone to make it about Stan now when it’s so blatantly obvious that Wenger is the one to blame is an example of bias and spin. What is the point in complaining about Kroenke he’s going nowhere. Arsene might

  31. alexanderhenry

    Marko

    I’m not trying to absolve wenger of anything. You want him gone, so do I.
    Why doesn’t Stan act?

  32. TitsMcGee

    Apparently Wenger said that his destiny is in his hands.

    Wow at his arrogance if true. He’s face planting and still defiant.

    There must be something that he has over Ivan because that’s just taunting.

  33. Leedsgunner

    I hope somebody reminds Wenger what he said yesterday what football was… that it was a performance and his job was getting his players focussed and ready for the next match.

    So…. how did that turn out? Did you enjoy the response Arsene? Whose fault was that?

    What a farce.

    He’s not the manager. He’s a living parody.

  34. Barking Arsene

    See I agree with that Alex – if Kronke wants to grow his investment he needs them to be competitive, so needs to hire effectively.

    To be fair though, it seems as though there are more forward thinking appointments being made, just need the big one now.

  35. TitsMcGee

    So Stan Kroenke is going to sack himself from his Billion £ company?

    Yea he’s detached but he just green-lit 110 million the past 7 months and Wenger went out and has us 30 points behind.

  36. Champagne Charlie

    Barking

    I’m not going near the investment angle or any of the above. Simply the ability to acknowledge when change is necessary and have the stones to act upon it.

    I’m sick of people clamouring for Wenger out and in the same sentence telling others not to blame Kroenke. If anyone on here has his power then we’d be watching a side managed by someone else. So there’s nothing boring about it frankly, it’s as pertinent as any issue you want to raise regarding Arsenal.

    Call me greedy but I want a new manager with fresh ideas, but I also want an owner who has a finger on the pulse when it comes to football. At the very least a passive owner who hires the best minds in the game to make decisions on his behalf.

    We have neither, just some leech yank cunt who hasn’t a clue about football. Just happy to have us as a portfolio piece. Usmanov is a snake of a human, but I can’t knock the fact I see the fat cunt and most games. Give me that over Kroenke the cancer. He’s not given Arsenal one glorious moment in his entire reign. Hate on modern Arsene as you please but the guy has delivered for us formerly at the very least.

  37. Bamford10

    Alexander would like to talk about Stan Kroenke some more, even though the only mistake he has made at Arsenal is continuing with Arsene Wenger. Every other mistake at Arsenal has been Wenger’s.

    But let’s talk about Stan Kroenke some more.

    Ridiculous.

  38. Marko

    If- as in Stan’s case- you know nothing about football, you hire a CEO who does . If the club underperforms you sack that CEO and get someone else in.

    So it’s more Ivans fault then. He’s here day to day and is aware of things Stan isn’t he vacant and the only thing that he ever sees out of Arsenal are numbers and figures. So it’s more Gazidis then. I mean they can all fuck off but I honestly don’t get how anyone’s anger can be directed anywhere else than towards Wenger now. He’s the most obvious problem that needs addressing. He needs to properly fuck off now

  39. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    I take it back, you’re actually brain dead.

    Everyone on here has stated Wenger needs to go. But here you are saying don’t mention Kroenke he’s not going anywhere, “but Wenger might”.

    Wenger hasn’t done a thing since 2004 you said. Tell me why he’s still manager then? We all want change, who are we asking that from?

  40. David Smith

    And an owner who reportedly refused to listen to his British board members, and possibly his son last summer. He went into stubborn mode after usmanov made his move to buy, and the FA Cup was won, there will be no change around here!
    Not much of an owner, as events have shown.

  41. Champagne Charlie

    There he is, sculpting the minds of tomorrow and simultaneously saying Kroenke rehiring Wenger is his “only mistake”.

    Hahahaha, brilliant.

    You’re making out like it’s akin to picking the wrong shade of paint for the Emirates changing rooms. Embarrassing rhetoric as per.

  42. Bamford10

    “We all want change”

    From a guy who was still defending Wenger this past summer, telling us that with a different owner, Wenger might be capable of winning a title.

    Neither Alexander nor Charlie has any business criticizing Stan Kroenke for continuing with Arsene Wenger: both of these guys still believed in Wenger as of 12 months ago.

    And, unlike Kroenke, they claim to know something about football!

  43. David Smith

    It wasn’t Ivan who kept Wenger on, he clearly wanted the opposite.
    Unfortunately, after Stans decision with Wenger, Ivan, as CEO was duty bound to rubber stamp it, and put a positive spin.
    The alternative was to resign, there are suggestions he offered to but it was rejected.
    So Ivan resigns last summer, we get another Wenger puppet CEO., Wenger stays forever
    Ivan decides to stay and fight from within, wengers job is under serious threat this summer, with no prospect of a renewal unless Stan has taken leave of his senses.
    Ivan will win this one by cleverly putting in a power structure to break wengers relationship with Stan

  44. alexanderhenry

    Marko

    What you are saying essentially is that Wenger should be fired which I agree with. However, any criticism of the one man who can do that but won’t, is somehow irrelevant.

    That makes no sense.

  45. Marko

    He’s not given Arsenal one glorious moment in his entire reign. Hate on modern Arsene as you please but the guy has delivered for us formerly at the very least.

    Certain types would point to Arsene as being successful with the recent FA Cups but you think Stan hasn’t given us one successful moment. Fair enough. Might I add though Charlie that you criticising Stan for giving Wenger a new contract is a bit rich considering that you have in the past like last summer said something along the lines of still believing that Wenger is capable of winning titles. It’s very possible Stan thought much like yourself or was convinced hoodwinked perhaps by Wenger in a private meeting of this same thing. And clearly like yourself he’s gotten it so wrong

  46. E54_

    How about them training pics and vids midweek looool

    Training in the snow ha!
    Bunch of rocky balboas hahaha!

    They are not fit to wear the shirt. Simple.

  47. Guns of SF

    Does Stan want to be the one who fires this so called legendary manager?
    HMMM
    perhaps he can “encourage” him to leave…..
    Anyhow, its clear that NO ONE has the courage to do the honest and right thing. Fire AW bring in Carlo and let the rebuild start now. What good is waiting until summer when we have won nothing all season.

  48. Marko

    Wenger hasn’t done a thing since 2004 you said. Tell me why he’s still manager then? We all want change, who are we asking that from?

    I never said that I said people like yourself and Pierre love to point to recent FA Cups as success but you just said Kroenke hasn’t achieved a single moment since owning the club. Are the FA Cups success or not

  49. Bamford10

    Marko

    Good point. I thought these guys told us the FAC titles were great achievements?

    I guess they were just as underwhelmed by them, in the end, as we were; they just didn’t want to admit it.

  50. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    You and Banford like peas in a pod when it comes to rewriting what’s been said on here.

    For the 10th time or so in a conversation about what a new owner would bring to the club I said… much like a new manager can get a new tune out of the same players, I couldn’t say for certain that a new owner would get a different output from Wenger. Almost verbatim.

    Of course you and the dumbest teacher in the states have took that and ran a million miles in another direction. Shocking nobody.

    I championed Allegri since February last season, but let’s ignore facts and pretend I said Wenger will win the league again. Classic Le Grove

  51. GuNZ

    ‘Tis the season to be jolly
    Tra la-la-la-laaaa tra laa-laa-laa

    It’s OK children of Le Grove. The nasty man will soon be sent away and you can all sleep soundly in your beds again.

    Where is my Nougat Boy? I miss him so . . .

  52. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    Let’s just leave it eh? You’re unable to present an honest point on here it’s ridiculous.

    I’ve not ever been content with the odd FA cup, so cut the lies you slimy dickhead. Same way I haven’t stated Wenger should be absolved and Kroenke is the problem. Same way I never talked up wenger to win the prem again. Fuck off with your continued misrepresentation, seriously.

  53. Marko

    What you are saying essentially is that Wenger should be fired which I agree with. However, any criticism of the one man who can do that but won’t, is somehow irrelevant

    First part yes we agree. The second part wasn’t necessarily my point but it’s relevant when you consider that Kroenke isn’t going anywhere so what’s the point Wenger might. I’ve never heard of an owner losing their position due to the poor job the manager is doing.

  54. Barking Arsene

    Champagne

    Agree with aspects of what you are saying, for example he should definitely have been more proactive in getting shot of Wenger but he also isn’t as bad as people make out.

    For one, although he likes to run the club as a self sustaining operation he also hasn’t loaded it with debt like some owners have. It is a portfolio item but that in itself isn’t a necessarily a negative as he won’t want it to diminish in value. When the time comes he will act.

    Wenger has delivered the minimum required for some time now but that is not really down to Kronke. Nobody can seriously suggest that the owner wouldn’t want a manager exceeding that minimum.

    So yes Kronke has to take a share of the blame for that but he isn’t trying to run the club into the ground. That would make zero financial sense.

    This is where I feel it gets a little boring – people will complain about lack of investment when in reality there is more than enough money for a more astute manager to perform with.

    It is just irrational to think that Kronke will sit on a failing asset forever – if Wenger is costing him money he will be gone – no doubt about it. A businessman as successful as Kronke will know what is required to keep his investment growing. Success.

    Usmanov would pump money in but also backed Wenger. So I’m not really sure he would be much better.

  55. Bamford10

    McGee

    Thanks for posting that. Just awesome. “The man wears fucking slippers.”

    AFTV 10, Hector Bellerin 0.

    Great commentary from DT.

  56. TitsMcGee

    ‘The goals were preventable,’ he said. ‘I don’t think we can take away from the individual quality of the goals but it was soft defending on our side.’

    He added: ‘It was tough but that’s explainable by the fact of what happened on Sunday [losing 3-0 to Man City in the Carabao Cup final] and the consequences of the hype about our performance. It hits you. The players put in a huge effort today but unfortunately we had some weak defending.’

  57. alexanderhenry

    Marko

    ‘I’ve never heard of an owner losing their position due to the poor job the manager is doing.’

    No, but I have heard of owners selling up as a result of campaigns from fans. Hicks and Gillet at Liverpool for example.

  58. Champagne Charlie

    Barking

    Fantasist stuff mate, we’ve been in steady decline since he took over (not apportioning blame to him, stating the trend).

    Yet in that time his asset has seen I believe a 40% appreciation (think I read that recently). So tell me why you think there’s any likelihood Kroenke will make change at that level given the volatility change can have in football?

    From a business sense, Arsenal has been a homer in for Kroenke irrespective of our performance on the pitch. These last two seasons have been pitiful from a sporting point of view, and only now is there a glimmer of hope that it’s registered his interest. Sorry, but I don’t share the same rational that he wants his asset to be a “success”, because commercially we’ve been nothing but that in his tenure. So who the fuck cares what we do on the pitch as a result? Top 4 undoubtedly is his wheelhouse. I’m not a fan of an owner with that mentality.

  59. Bamford10

    “Welcome to Arsene Wenger’s legacy: empty stadiums, dead teams, no passion, no fight.”

    Take a bow, DT. Well done.

  60. Bamford10

    Organize a “Kroenke out” protest, then, Alexander. I’m sure there are like three other dead-enders who would join you.

  61. Guns of SF

    Its true. this is a dictatorship with a madman.
    For all the fans worldwide who follow this team passionately and have been duped for the last decade, its criminal.
    Never before have I seen this in professional sports of any kind.
    To the hard working people who spend their money on this team, this is just nothing short of a fleecing. And I thought Trump stealing the election was bad. This shit been doing on for a long time.

    Its a regime not wanting to lose their beloved general.

    Time to oust him. Revolt. The players are done too. Their are shattered.

  62. Marko

    Same way I never talked up wenger to win the prem again. Fuck off with your continued misrepresentation, seriously.

    You literally said that you thought that he was capable of winning titles you just added an if which is irrelevant because the statement was still the same. And maybe Stan thought the same thing. And people like yourself absolutely try to absolve him of some of the blame for the current struggles by deflecting to Stan. You less so these days cause you disappeared for a while. Also you know grow the fuck up and act like an adult I haven’t insulted you once. If you can’t take someone disagreeing with you I suggest going back into hiding again

  63. E54_

    Remember when that swansea winger destroyed chambers career.

    After these two games I think Sane just sent Bellerin back 5 years.

  64. Marko

    No, but I have heard of owners selling up as a result of campaigns from fans. Hicks and Gillet at Liverpool for example.

    I’d say 5 minutes at anfield and they had buyers remorse

  65. Guns of SF

    I seriously think he has a mental issue. His fear of life without Arsenal has gone beyond anything rational now. This is his personal demon that we are being held hostage to.
    No one should be subjected to this. He lost his wife to football, I think he has a daughter too…. not sure what that relationship is with her.

    He is wealthy beyond belief and cannot let go of a job ( at the end of the day it is what it is)

    I mean you would think, an old man like this would actually be looking forward to resting finally and taking a break. Playing football with kids in the park, his grand kids etc. Coaching little ones for fun…

    Not him….

  66. Bamford10

    Why would Wenger have been angry with Guardiola prior to the match? Guardiola definitely took a dig at Wenger after the match — with that remark about knowing Wenger would make the right decision for Arsenal Football Club, i.e., resign — but did he say or do anything after Sunday’s match to disrespect Wenger? I can’t think think of anything.

  67. Champagne Charlie

    Marko
    You’re boring. Don’t address me with your dishonest nonsense.

    ….and cover your ears the last 2 mins of the video with DT where’s he talks about Milan being a different animal with the same players thanks to new approach/tactics from Rino etc. Not your cuppa

  68. TitsMcGee

    It’s tough but it’s explainable after what happened on Sunday and the consequences of the hype about our performance on Sunday and it hits you but I think the players put a pretty huge performance in today but unfortunately we had some weak defending,’ Wenger said.”

    He says we put in a “huge” performance tonight.

    Jesus this guy will say anything. He must be just taking the piss at this stage.

  69. Wenker-wanger

    Too arrogant to resign……..power-hungry dictator….The accurate comments of DT, which I totally concur with.

  70. TitsMcGee

    John Cross
    @johncrossmirror
    ·
    2h
    Tonight is confirmation of the end for Arsene Wenger. So sad, after everything he has done for the club, that it has to end like this.

    He’s about 10 years too late but….

  71. Bamford10

    If Guardiola didn’t do or say anything disrespectful after Sunday’s match, Wenger’s little pre-match finger-jabbing rant might mean he is a little unhinged. What, otherwise, would explain that?

    The irony is that it was Wenger who was being petty in the build-up to the cup final, telling reporters Guardiola was “too old” to play at Arsenal when Wenger arrived, and saying, in reply to a question about Guardiola changing the game, that players are the determining factor, not managers.

    Wenger has lost it, I think.

  72. Relieable Sauce

    * This is the end. If the common belief was that such meek surrender in the Carabao Cup final was Arsenal’s nadir, it took them just four more days to reach a new low. The Gunners hit rock bottom at Wembley, but started to excavate at the Emirates.

    Arsene Wenger spoke of the club’s “desire to respond” on Thursday evening, and they did so briefly before Manchester City grew tired of listening and interjected. Arsenal displayed their desperation for revenge in the opening 15 minutes, yet they found themselves 3-0 down after half an hour. They were the belligerent boxer who came out fighting, failed to land a telling punch and was sprawled out on the canvas, all within the first round.

    The talk of an end-of-season review will only intensify, but for the first time it genuinely feels as though Wenger could leave before the summer. His own arrogance and misplaced faith will surely prevent him from walking the plank, while Arsenal’s reluctance to ignominiously sack their greatest ever manager mid-season will likely stop them giving him the necessary push. Yet both need to be put out of their misery as soon as possible, as neither can thrive while the other barely survives.

    Cut from – http://www.football365.com/news/arsenal-0-3-manchester-city-16-conclusions

  73. Marko

    ….and cover your ears the last 2 mins of the video with DT where’s he talks about Milan being a different animal with the same players thanks to new approach/tactics from Rino etc. Not your cuppa

    Yeah but he’s got Bonnucci and Romagnoli to work with over there not Mustafi and Koscielny. Big difference he’s getting more out of good defenders whereas we’re getting fuck all out of poor ones. I understood your original point you don’t need to keep hammering it home. It’s the same point you were making last summer. Our defenders are good enough it’s a question of tactics and training that’s failing and we don’t need to sign defenders. I completely disagree tactics and training aside the players aren’t good enough and better defenders need to be signed. Not Johnny Evans or Simon Kjaar by the way

  74. Barking Arsene

    Champagne

    It certainly isn’t fantasist to suggest that a business owner wants their business to increase in value.

    What is fantasist (and this isn’t aimed at you) is that as fans we all want an owner to just come and chuck £300m a season at our team. Very few actually get that.

    I agree he has a wheelhouse of top 4. No doubt about it. Personally I don’t like it much at all either, but that isn’t really what I’m getting at.

    My point is that although Kronke has seen his investment rise by 40% or so, that is due to consistent but not outstanding league results but mainly rising TV deals over the years.

    You mention the volatile nature of the business, and totally understand your rationale as to why Wenger has been a safe bet for him etc. Thing is, my argument will always be that were we to have a manger who could improve on those results then Kronke wouldn’t be against it.

    It just sometimes seems as though people (again not necessarily yourself) think Kronke actually WANTS us to be 4th. Which just isn’t the case.

    It’s definitely not ideal but I still maintain there will be managers out there that could do more with our resources. Again, I would agree that Kronke must shoulder some responsibility for not installing them sooner, but at the same time he isn’t bleeding us dry either.

    Wenger is the single biggest problem we have currently in terms of team performance. Now, if we get to the summer and Kronke has done nothing once again, then that would be a different story.

    Anyway, bedtime for me now I think!

  75. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    So why were they so abject with such quality defenders?

    Couldn’t be the approach totally fleeced them..

  76. Guns of SF

    all the UK gunners are going to sleep. Us USA folks are still awake and having to ruminate over this shit for more hours.

  77. Champagne Charlie

    Barking

    Get what you’re saying, and I’m not suggesting kroenke is intending the substandard, he’s being apathetic in role that requires much more.

    Again, of course he would be open to someone who offers more than wenger. But he’s not actually scouting that potential because he’s comfortable as is. That irks me because it displays total detachment from the most important part (the fans).

    Changing Wenger is undoubtedly the most impressive change we could make, but even with that happening I’m still vehemently against Kroenkes ownership. The buck stops with the owner and at Arsenal there’s no quality control, or safety valve, to ensure we maintain standards befitting to the clubs stature.

    Absolutely everything at Arsenal is top tier as far as demands go, including ticket prices. One thing that’s not top tier is Kroenkes demands of those running the club. We are coasting under his stewardship, and that’s a fact I find hard to digest.

  78. David Smith

    Ultimately, Wenger knows he’s finished, the players know he’s finished, so we should not be surprised,by any results for,the remainder of this season.
    Just hope Josh Kroenke witnessed that, and what is to come, Stan might eventually listen to him over a failed manager

  79. Elmo

    Marko

    Hicks and Gillett were forced to sell. They were cowboys who borrowed huge amounts in the heady easy credit days of pre-2008, then found themselves in trouble as the team didn’t perform and their creditors pulled the plug.

    The Liverpool fans did mount a far more organised and vociferous resistance to the floppy, weak-willed effort we’ve seen from our own fans, but ultimately in Liverpool’s case it was the bank RBS (itself having to be bailed out by the UK taxpayer to the tune of £45bn in 2008) that ended their ownership.

  80. Marko

    So why were they so abject with such quality defenders?

    Were that that abject? I suppose 36 goals conceded isn’t great. It’s no 55 though. 119 goals conceded the last two seasons. Kind of tells a story and not a story in which our defenders look good. Mourinho and Simeone could take over tomorrow and straight away they won’t be thinking these lads are good enough and I don’t need to sign defenders. Straight away they’ll be looking at replacing

  81. GuNZ

    So Wenger only lost the dressing room when he sold Giroud, did he? What a load of bollocks. Admittedly, the rest of the squad might have got pissed off about no longer being able to ogle Nougat Boy’s soaped up, Grecian god-like physique in the steamy atmosphere of the post-match showers, but it’s been a season of mediocrity that is rapidly sliding, like the offal from a recently slaughtered cow carcass off a plastic tarp, into disaster. No, Wenger lost the dressing room a few seasons ago, and has only been able to paper over the cracks by keeping a few arse-licking stalwarts in the team and cycling in new players who know no better. Stasi tactics really. If you get enough people spouting your propaganda, others start to doubt the evidence of their own eyes.

  82. Herb's Army

    I agree with Alexander too.
    How’s that respect for other bloggers thing going, Bamford? Not so good I see, you can’t help obsessively picking on people like a playground bully.
    Why do you take it so personally? Is your outside life so stressful that you need this as an outlet to pick a fight by flexing your vitriolic verbal angst?
    If you took your blinkers off for a few minutes, you and Alexander are saying the same thing, but from very different perspectives..
    When Kroenke took ownership of Arsenal, his first responsibility is to the supporters. The fans are the soul of any club, lose those and what you’re left with isn’t worth sh*t.
    Kroenke is every bit as much to blame, because he hasn’t done due diligence.
    Like Wenger, he has absolutely no relationship with the Arsenal fan-base, he has never set out a blue-print or long-term vision of the future, and since 2008 Wenger has been his employee.
    The whole world knows Wenger is a useless parasitic leech, but the spotlight needs to be shone on both of these thieving wretches for reasons that have become blindingly obvious.

  83. Relieable Sauce

    Journos putting the cart before the horse now as well as LGs usual suspects.

    Shall we list the shortcomings of Kronke and Wenger and see how they compare?…

  84. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Expected outcome tonight, but equally Arsenal were laid bare by a superb ManCity squad. What little fight they showed, they wete just as quickly reminded if their place in the pecking order. Post match Wenger looked a terribly beaten person with no real answers for what now is far too obvious, he no longer matters in the game.

    Just waiting for the board to do the obvious and right thing, put an end to this foolish pretender before the fans turn completely against them all.

    Its been a very long time since i could honestly say that Arsenal have been a very poor team, but there you have it now, they are so deficient in so many areas of the pitch and really, its obvious who is responsible for it all.

    What a sad and pathetic team Arsenal are. They dont even have the decency to actually be embarrased for how bad they truly are.

  85. TR7

    Arsenal fans were raving about our new transfer policy under Mislintant. The guy signed two duds – Auba and Mikhi. Many fans knew these two were fraud players but not our new highly celebrated scout.

  86. Mick Kartun

    Frankie Coffeecakes:”before the fans turn completely against them all.”

    You mean the majority like this one (from Mirror):
    “John Cross, I guess you have rehearsing this headlines for days to release it. Wenger will leave so don’t worry at all. You wish of all these years will come to pass BUT one thing for sure Wenger won’t satisfy you with is to give you and your kind the luxury of hounding him out….you will not get to have that.”

    The Mirror headline: “JOHN CROSS: Ugly and shambolic, this was the bitter, cold night Wenger lost control of Arsenal – the end of a leg end.”

    ——————————————–

    Don’t get me wrong, Frankie, I like your posts, but the idea the majority LOYAL attending Library fans will “turn completely against” againts their old leg end is hopeless. Forget that, pointless now and it’s just becoming numb and resignation feeling of giving up and don’t give a fuck anymore.

  87. Mick Kartun

    Apparently Citeh are so far ahead that by the second half they were doing regenerative warmup exercises in preparation for the next match with Chelsea while kicking the ball around to each other.

  88. Herb's Army

    Wenger’s litany of crimes against Arsenal can be traced right back to one of his first two signings – Remind Garde. He signed Christopher Wreh for no other reason than he was related to George Weah. Gilles Grimaldi (a French Vinnie Jones) neither a convincing Centre Half or DM is still on the pay-roll and is responsible for all the crap we waste money on from France.
    He nearly sold Ashley Cole for £200k to Palace, and only had his mind changed because Silvinho had a dodgy passport. He got van Bronkhorst completely wrong after spending good money to bring him in. He was a left/wing back, he played there for Rangers, for Barcelona against us in CL Final, 2006, and he was still playing that position when he captained Holland in their 2010 WC campaign. Not for Wenger though, he was determined to shoo-horn him alongside Vieira as Petit’s replacement, and as with the majority of his expensive gambled was an epic fail.
    The list is endless, but it does beg the question: exactly how much of an incompetent buffoon does one have to be before they’re exposed and tossed out the door?
    In the history of Arsenal Football Club, I doubt there has ever been a more classless manager than Arsene Wenger, a fraudulent charlatan in every sense.

  89. Bamford10

    Herb

    I didn’t insult anyone tonight, nor did I “bully” anyone. For that kind of behavior, you’ll want to see the posts of Northerngooner and Champagne Charlie, the latter of whom spent many of his posts tonight insulting me or Marko.

    I never insulted Alexander once; I simply made it clear that I disagree with him. As did Carts, as did Marko, as did others.

    You don’t like Kroenke. I get it. But Alexander’s claims go well beyond that.

    And the likes of Alexander and Champagne Charlie were defending the manager you just referred to as a “fraudulent charlatan” just 12 months ago.

    Regardless, you need to get a grip. I insulted no one, and I bullied no one.

  90. TonyD

    Just watched the match as it was live early hours of the morning here and after City’s expected 3 goals I fast forward to half time. then when, as expected, we were as poor as we were in the 1st half, fast forwarded through a fair amount of the 2nd half.

    Auba and Mikhi were living up to my assessments pre signing, last night.

    You have thought Auba would have nailed the penalty instead of telegraphing where her was going to put the ball with his body shape.

    They haven’t time to be Wengerised yet, so the only conclusion is that they are not top 6 players for the PL as I thought when we were looking at them.

    Mustafi put Bamford’s RB argument to bed when Sane skinned him for the 2nd goal as he was out in the RB position. Had he played the game there Sane would have made him look pub team potential.

    Ramsey, Mikhi and Auba playing together also confirmed that Bamford had it wrong again in saying that that combination would win us games, but the truth is that will only work against poor teams in the way it worked against Everton.

    Amazing how it was that City fans managed to turn up, but I don’t blame any Gooner not wanting to waste money going to games at the moment.

    All in all I expected much more from Wenger’s Changes-Are-imminent-if we don’t-improve meeting after the Monday Board meeting. We were exactly like we are at home where we have more intensity than away games but City made us look the mid table team we are these days.

    Clearly the rallying meeting didn’t work.

    With 10 games to go CL qualification is over from the PL.

    So onto the EL.

    Personally I think Milan will roll us over with Wellwide leading the attack. Gattuso is an emerging manager and was a very hard uncompromising player.

    So that leaves us at 6th place with no CL for next season and the club finances not looking too strong and us to overcome Wenger’s dire purchases of Xhaka, Mustafa, Holding, Elneny, Sead, Welbeck, Auba & Mikhi. Adf to that the aging players of Cech, Kos and Monreal our replacement of players is going to have to be exceptional, which it hasn’t been for years.

    I was hoping to read the press online this morning after watching the game to see that we’d fired Wenger, but that was merely a pipe dream.

    Finally Keown had this to say about our performance and mental state last night.

    With him being a Wenger apologist, I don’t normally pay attention to Keown’s words, but he summed things up right this time.

    “I asked for ‘ruthless, snarling street fighters playing with fire’ against Manchester City… so how did the Arsenal players get on?”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5452251/How-did-Martin-Keown-think-Arsenal-players-got-against-Man-City.html#ixzz58YikjLW7

  91. Rambo Ramsey

    Marko and Bamford, you accuse Alexander of running interference for Wenger but do you realize something similar could be said of you? You constantly run interference for Kroenke.

    Frankly its even worse than Alex because he never gets his panties in a twist when someone critiques Wenger. Whereas you two can always be counted on to whinge and cry if anyone even mentions the name Kroenke.

  92. Bamford10

    Tony D

    You might be right: Mustafi may not be good enough ANYWHERE in defense.

    As for my belief that Aubameyang, Mkhitaryan, Ozil and Ramsey in advanced positions would improve us, perhaps that is now looking a little too rose-tinted glasses. Perhaps the Everton match hoodwinked me. Unlike some, I’m willing to admit that I can get things wrong from time to time. Perhaps I got that wrong.

    Cheers.

  93. Bamford10

    Mkhitaryan to Ramsey, then Ramsey with a cross almost created a goal at 7:54. And Ramsey played a smart little through pass to Aubameyang just a minute earlier.

    Maybe I shouldn’t give up on this front four. Maybe it’s Welbeck, Xhaka and tonight’s back four that are the problem.

  94. S Asoa

    Bears repeating

    Wenger’s litany of crimes against Arsenal can be traced right back to one of his first two signings – Remind Garde. He signed Christopher Wreh for no other reason than he was related to George Weah. Gilles Grimaldi (a French Vinnie Jones) neither a convincing Centre Half or DM is still on the pay-roll and is responsible for all the crap we waste money on from France.
    He nearly sold Ashley Cole for £200k to Palace, and only had his mind changed because Silvinho had a dodgy passport. He got van Bronkhorst completely wrong after spending good money to bring him in. He was a left/wing back, he played there for Rangers, for Barcelona against us in CL Final, 2006, and he was still playing that position when he captained Holland in their 2010 WC campaign. Not for Wenger though, he was determined to shoo-horn him alongside Vieira as Petit’s replacement, and as with the majority of his expensive gambled was an epic fail.
    The list is endless, but it does beg the question: exactly how much of an incompetent buffoon does one have to be before they’re exposed and tossed out the door?
    In the history of Arsenal Football Club, I doubt there has ever been a more classless manager than Arsene Wenger, a fraudulent charlatan in every sense.

    Courtesy Herbs Army

  95. Mick Kartun

    After watching tonight’s match, Morata called Lukaku and said:

    Morata: “Hey, Luk, do you know that what City did to Arsenal tonight is like a child abuse?”
    Lukaku: “Nah, I saw it to be a training session to meat pounding you next on Sunday.”

  96. TR7

    Alex Henry is spot on. Last season even the board members and Ivan had deserted Wenger but Stan vetoed their calls and handed him a shiny new contract. Even now Wenger is belligerent because he knows Stan probably still supports him.

  97. UTarse

    So, what have we gleaned from last night ?
    1) Arsenal are a poor team
    2) Wenger is still our very poor manager (not financially)
    3) We got hammered yet again
    4) Northern Goon is still a xenophobic vagina
    5) 12 year old is still 12
    6) Arsenal fans apparently all agreeing but still hurling abuse at eachother.

    Groundhog Day persists.

  98. Guernsey gun

    Cute, rim crew going down with a blaze of glory. It’s all kroenke fault. Not the french cunt, all of you get back to doing what you do best. Giving each other the reach around with Wenger posters in the middle.. fucking sad cunts playing elephants with each other.

  99. mysticleaves

    E54
    Sane might have done a good thing for us then, sending Bellerin 5 years back. He was better by a mile 5 years ago lol.

  100. Jeff

    We got walloped by the same team, the same scoreline, twice in the same week. It seems to me as though the more we spend, the more world class players we bring in, the less well we do. What is this strange thing we call Arsenal?

  101. mysticleaves

    reading up Marko and Bamford vs CC and AH showed up Marko and Bamford the more. Kroenke is as bad and culpable as Wenger. Both deserve the second vitriol. Its true that is easier to sack wenger than to change owners but who does the sack? the spineless owner whose ambition for the club is top 4 and a few cups here and there.

    Before now, before the emergence of Liverpool and Tottenham Kroenke and Wenger knew that wenger could make all these basic mistakes and still land at top4. And occasionally (as was the recent trend) win a few cups so Kroenke was happy.

    Back in 2006 when we moved stadiums, the board, of which Kroenke become the majority shareholder of, gave wenger a mandate of MAKING top4 3 times out of 5 years through 2011. The goal/aim for Kroenke has always been top4, the minimal success to keep Arsenal PLC a positive company, that’s all. Never for once has Kroenke mandated wenger to win the league.

    And y’all say the only mistake of Kroenke is to keep Wenger? He has done far more and is majorly the cause of our problems.

    The greatest mistake of the recent Arsenal times isn’t by Wenger but by Kroenke. And again, the greater mistake than the greatest a season ago is by Kroenke again not firing Wenger as of the time of my posting.

    No other owner will tolerate the past 2 years from any manager anywhere. No one!

  102. Leftsidesanch

    Josh coming over probably shows that even the faith in Wenger may be waning at the very top.

    That being said, I think our journalists are terrible. They ask generic questions and are far too accepting of Wengers generic spill of focusing on the next game, having values etc.

    Wenger needs to be asked if he is aware of what is going wrong and what is being done to remedy this.

    Previously, when Wengers fallen put with the players they’ve been moved on but now as far as we know theres been no falling out. They simply, aren’t and won’t play for him anymore.

  103. TonyD

    Bamford
    I’ve been reading your posts for some time about Ramsey, Mustafi etc, and thought I’d see a few games before commenting.

    It’s nothing personal, and I’d be happy to see you be proved right, but it hasn’t worked out that way.

    IMHO I feel that maybe Mustafi can be improved but only as much as a back up squad player. I don’t see him becoming a 2nd Otemendi.

    I actually share your belief that Ramsey is a decent player but not under Wenger. SAF tried his best to sign Ramsey and I believe even went to his house in an effort to do so.

    I wonder, though, whether Ramsey still has the talent he had when we bought him; he certainly is far more injury prone.

    The way our finances are looking I’d keep Ramsey but not on an extortionate salary. I’d offer a structure of incentives for when the next manager arrives, and then see if the manager can improve him to being the player he showed the promise to be.

    Mikhi I just don’t see him being good enough for us. I never did in the same way I never wanted us to buy Welbeck.

    Auba will score goals for us but he needs the right service to do so. I don’t see him being prolific as he was for Dortmund, but he has enough in him to maybe get 15+ goals a season.

    I feel he’s not the complete CF/Striker and that is a concern. 2 decent mobile wingers will definitely help Auba and indeed Lacazette who equally I don’t see as being as bad as some here perceive.

    It’s a bit like Wrighty, he would never have scored as many goals as he did without the genius of Bergkamp.

    Under Wenger we are going to see much of the same and players who can play better together, such as Ozil, Ramsey, Auba and Lacazette are going to suffer and in turn will be castigated here, which I’ve been guilty of as well.

    The players aren’t faultless for this season’s performances, but they have also lacked leadership on the pitch. This squad lacks leaders, such as Paddy, Henry, Tony Adams, Keown, Bouldy, Bergkamp and many others were.

    It’s just a waiting game for us and has been for the last 14 years to get the right manager to rebuild and implement 2018 systems and players who can fight for the right to pull on an Arsenal shirt.

    Then play for each other with pride and honour for being given the chance to play for The Arsenal.

    That’s how I see it.

  104. Herb's Army

    S Asia – thanks, though it highlighted a few typo’s!

    Bamford
    It’s not what you say as much as the way you say it.
    It’s almost as if everyone is agitating for an argument, everyone has to have beef with another blogger, and if you say something someone else might not agree with, you get pilloried and verbally slaughtered.
    You’re extremely rude, and instead of considering what Alexander says, you jump on it and belittle his points, which despite your endless protestations you are unable to discredit.
    My points above were to try and show that there is more than one key element to Arsenal’s decline, it is most definitely a team effort.
    Kroenke has been responsible for Wenger’s inflated salary for 10 years now, that makes him as culpable and as complicit as Wenger, if not moreso for failing to pay proper attention to what is going on at the club he owns.
    Do you think Roman would tolerate Wenger at Wenger???

  105. Redtruth

    mysticleaves

    Talking b***** Blame the fans ….you.can’t blame Man City fans for travelling as their team are on the up…but what’s Arsenal’s excuse ….a big number of zealot AKB’s still turned up to watch the dire show…

  106. Jeff

    Here’s a maths question. If you drew a graph of Arsenal’s progress over the last 15 years, you would see a steady decline. We’ve had countless different teams and players come and go since then but the decline has always been constant. Can you explain this phenomenon? [Hint] it’s not the referee, the stadium or financial doping.

  107. Redtruth

    “We’ve had countless different teams and players come and go since then but the decline has always been constant. Can you explain this phenomenon? [Hint] it’s not the referee, the stadium or financial doping.”

    It’s the fans for putting up with this shit show…

  108. Radio Raheem

    It’s obvious Wenger won’t ‘sack’ himself so else can?

    Who gave him a two year contract extension?

  109. Radio Raheem

    With Wenger in charge I’m not sure we can truly gauge how good the players are or can be : he’s way too corrosive!

  110. UTarse

    Mystic,
    “And y’all say the only mistake of Kroenke is to keep Wenger? He has done far more and is majorly the cause of our problems.”

    Ffs sake, I couldn’t agree more that Stan is complicit and culpable but to say he is the major cause is burying your head in the sand. This team represents wenger and his buffoonery, the reason we are shit is wenger. The reason wenger is still in the job is Stan. He bought wengers loyalty BS just like the majority of zombie Arsenal fans…. wenger is the major cause.

  111. TitsMcGee

    In a way it’s sadly poetic that he’s failing this hard.

    By sadly I mean strangely satisfying. Kind of like a dirty politician that has lined his pockets for years getting found out and roasted.

  112. TitsMcGee

    With Wenger in charge I’m not sure we can truly gauge how good the players are or can be : he’s way too corrosive!”

    This is where I’m at. It can’t be coincidence that anyone that comes here suddenly starts looking shit whether they were brought in by Wenger or the new guys.

    We are in possession of a few duds but the sum of our parts should be better than 30 points back.

  113. UTarse

    Fuck being sad, this leach has made circa £120 MILLION for 14 years of underachieving!!! Wtf is there to be sad about, or regretful of ?! He’s a selfish arrogant cunt that will hopefully be vilified for his recklessness and lies.

  114. TitsMcGee

    I think a huge part of the issue is that the players are all out there on individual agendas. There is no cohesive plan in general so essentially nobody knows what anyone else is doing or supposed to do.

    Obviously a CB knows what a CBs job is but because they don’t drill strategies in practice (and apparently haven’t ever ) and aren’t all on the same page there are breakdowns every game. It takes an incredible amount of arrogance and daresay idiocy to keep trying the same thing 5000 times even though it keeps failing. Actually I think that is the definition of crazy.

    The type of mistakes being made now are the same mistakes that were being made years ago by a completely different starting XI.

    That should speak volumes.

  115. OleGunner

    I’d wager at least 30% of the fan base is ok with how things are going.
    Lots of Wenger in fans (from around the world) called into some football fan show I watched begging for Wenger to be given more time. That’s more than enough cover for management and the manager.

    Its why I laugh everytime people think he’ll go this summer. In fact he is nailed on for a contract extension in 2019 irrespective of results because he completely controls the renewal process. Plus we know the story how he has no life outside of football etc etc.

    Most realistically, he will go in 2021 after another 2 year contract extension.

  116. TitsMcGee

    Most realistically, he will go in 2021 after another 2 year contract extension.”

    Arsenal fans are spineless but I’d be shocked if that happened. Wenger has got no clue and will only get worse. Surely Kroenke et al aren’t waiting until we finish 10th.

  117. Guernsey gun

    2 more seasons of this french cunt in charge and I guarantee we’ll be in a relegation fight. I hope he goes and doesn’t prove me right. The state of the club is that serious now.