Wenger finished and he knows it.

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Wouldn’t it be nice if the press pushed Arsene for answers, versus goading him into a reaction for the back page of a rag?

I don’t care what his opinion is on his review is, he’s hardly going to want to talk about that right now.

“My job is to perform, I don’t ask if your position is reviewed..”

At least he knows his job is to perform. Not sure how he’ll frame this year as that, but whatever. Point is, I want to hear his thoughts on the problems at the club, and get into specifics.

  • Why is there such a consistent thread of failure against top 6 teams?
  • What are you going to change the narrative this Thursday?
  • How do you react when players are walking on the pitch in a cup final?
  • How do you assess player motivation?
  • Are players calling in sick?
  • Do you think Ozil’s constant vacations are a problem?

I personally think the press give Wenger an easy ride when they goad him. This happens almost every year, it’s the same reaction every time.

“I’ve turned the whole world down to respect my contracts,”

“My position is the last worry I have at the moment. My worry is to get the team focused and ready for tomorrow’s game.”

Absolute nothing comments. The press coverage is now about his loyalty, not his lack of understanding when it comes to Arsenal’s declining ability to compete at the highest level. I think the sad part about the comments he’s making is I’m not sure even he believes in what he’s saying. He looks clueless and lost. It’s sad, but as fans, we can’t feel bad about seeing Wenger in this mess. He stole that new contract last summer and we all knew what would happen.

Wenger needs to start rethinking his loyalty angle. We plucked him from Grampus 8 and gave him a platform to succeed. Sure, there were some years he could have gone to Madrid, but he’d have failed and died off as a top-flight manager 10 years ago and he’d not be in an elite job right now. He’s done very well out of Arsenal. His last 3 contracts have been gifts, he’s lucky to be running a big club right now. Hopefully we won’t double down on our dreadful summer mistake. Hopefully this is the end game.

Also, I appreciate he worked some wonders back in the day, but let’s not pretend the Arsenal job hasn’t been appealing, even in the dark times. Wenger’s loyalty wasn’t linked to club survival. Even in the dark times, he’s was still blasting £100m wage bills. A lot of our poverty in the transfer market was linked to him spending all his money on a failed socialist wage experiment. Irony of all ironies, in the socialist experiment, there was always one man who had to be the richest.

Interesting to see that John Cross has now turned on Wenger, you know that if he’s changed his tune from ‘careful what you wish for’ it’s because he’s been given permission to do so. Also fantastic to read that we’re tracking Jardim and Arteta. Not quite so keen on Brendan Rodgers, he’s not a bad coach, he’s just a bit of a prat. Would want us to steer clear of Loew, such a yer da signing.

This is a pretty detailed overview of Leonardo Jardim, the career coach from Madeira. We’re going to need a manager who extracts 110% out of players, a Pochettino style hire. I think Jardim has consistently demonstrated his ability to take on challenging situations and win out. He’s a great defensive coach, his Monaco side last year were next level in terms of attacking style, and he’s capable of adapting his vision based on the assets he has at his disposal. It’d also be nice to keep the Monaco heritage in our DNA.

I’m just praying we don’t make a regressive crowd pleaser signing. Go for the smartest coach, with the most exciting vision for the club. Interview and meet people. Make them work for the best job in the world.

I cannot wait people. Wenger is could be on the way out.

Anyway, we have the issue of City tomorrow. Not often a mega game like this goes on general sale, but hey, not often a club that charges £95 a ticket keeps a failing manager on the payroll at the expense of success.

Right, see you tomorrow for a plate of masochism.

Also, I did this video for Ball Street. Take a watch. I was next level hungover, so apologies.

PODCAST TOMORROW.

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  1. MrT

    I’m just waiting for Wenger to leave. Until then I will content myself with fighting for a trophy on legrove comments section. There is nothing more to say on Wenger that has not been said.

  2. Sixx Pac

    Jardim, Fonseca and Arteta for me. Ancelotti would be the most boring hire. I like the idea of having an under 45 year old manager.

  3. Leftsidesanch

    General sale for a prem game v city? You know this clown is running out of lives now. No matter the circumstance, people in the past would still turn up in droves for a game v a big side.

  4. Marko

    Where’s the logic… or is it LeFrauds usual arrogance? Get top 4 or it’s all change…? What…. with one year left on your contract? Deluded….
    MarkoFebruary 28, 2018 18:20:33
    Absolutely agree with what Danish said the media contrary to what Pierre thinks is really letting him off easy. The second he said he was amazed at the speculation about his job someone right away should have followed up with I dunno are you for fucking real? And then hit him with the lack of a title challenge for about 14 years, 27 points behind City 10 points behind Spurs, the embarrassing defeats to Osterland and Forest. How about mentioning the fact we’ve lost 6 in 12 games so far this year and have the deplorable charlatan acknowledge that for once instead of talking about the next game and bullshit about togetherness and focus and values. The shameless bastard is leading this club he pertains to love down a dark path and to what end? He’s not going to turn it around those shit players are done playing for the fool. And he’s amazed people question him? Is he fucking nuts. I wish to god he took one of those job offers over the years that we didn’t have to suffer him like a malignant tumour.

  5. Marko

    Absolutely agree with what Danish said the media contrary to what Pierre thinks is really letting him off easy. The second he said he was amazed at the speculation about his job someone right away should have followed up with I dunno are you for fucking real? And then hit him with the lack of a title challenge for about 14 years, 27 points behind City 10 points behind Spurs, the embarrassing defeats to Osterland and Forest. How about mentioning the fact we’ve lost 6 in 12 games so far this year and have the deplorable charlatan acknowledge that for once instead of talking about the next game and bullshit about togetherness and focus and values. The shameless bastard is leading this club he pertains to love down a dark path and to what end? He’s not going to turn it around those shit players are done playing for the fool. And he’s amazed people question him? Is he fucking nuts. I wish to god he took one of those job offers over the years that we didn’t have to suffer him like a malignant tumour.

    Disregard the previous one my copy and paste job was shit

  6. Marko

    So what do you think their problem has been.

    They aim higher I guess. I mean Spurs for example yes they need to win trophies but it’s pretty obvious they’ve put a bigger emphasis on the league and champions league qualification so too Liverpool perhaps at the expense of competing for the FA and League cups. Everyone wants to play in the champions league it matters when you attract players obviously.

  7. Chris

    Just a thought but would anyone read Wengers autobiography if he got around to writing one? I know a lot of people wouldn’t want to add to his royalties but it may be a genuinely interesting read to see his thoughts about everything and how it contrasts with that of others and/or the truth.

    I do remember him stating once “one day I will write a book and you will know everything”. I always assumed by that he meant restrictions on finance by the club etc. The thoughts of Bould and some current players may be revealing too.

  8. Guns of SF

    Hi all,
    Bay Area Gooner here with a new handle….

    Pedroooo-
    Is this necessary???
    It’d also be nice to keep the Monaco heritage in our DNA

    Jardim is great but lets not have any link to Wenger anymore. Look what the Monaco man has done to us

  9. Marko

    he’d have failed and died off as a top-flight manager 10 years ago and he’d not be in an elite job right now. He’s done very well out of Arsenal. His last 3 contracts have been gifts, he’s lucky to be running a big club right now.

    Absolutely true

  10. Marko

    Chris I wouldn’t it’d be a bullshit read. He’d never admit to anything that he did wrong and he’d likely say values and cohesion a lot. The idea that he’d explain the very odd signings of Park Chu Young or Kallstrom with his broken back or why he kept giving injured sometimes useless players new contracts. There’s a lot for him to answer but he’d never do it because he’s a shameless individual. It’d be the fluffiest pile of shit

  11. Guns of SF

    Wenger cannot coach. Period. that is the issue at hand…
    He doesnt do tactics, in game adjustments, video prep, or hold his players accountable. He is the epitome of a lame duck figure head
    Im sure the brass are all too pleased when he catches fire from the media and fans.

    Not sure what this Josh Kronkes position is on things- but I do hope he can see through the BS and give a report to daddy moneybags
    Pay Wenger out of his contract and let him go in May. Give him the parade, game, name the street after him and make the statue. Just get him out

  12. HillWood

    When Wenger bangs on about the next game being the game he must focus on it makes you wonder if he even cares about all the shit that has gone on previously

  13. Charlie Nick

    Always ‘jam tomorrow’ with wenger. The next game, the next season, judge me in may. When the next big thing develops into a world class player (zelalem, the jeff, sanogo). If we dont lose by 3 v city, wenger will point to the improvement, a turning point, a bright future etc etc. Just waiting for ‘zee mental strengss’ to be pulled out in the interview!

  14. Pierre

    Marko
    “. I mean Spurs for example yes they need to win trophies but it’s pretty obvious they’ve put a bigger emphasis on the league and champions league qualification so too Liverpool perhaps at the expense of competing for the FA and League cups. Everyone wants to play in the champions league it matters when you attract players obviously.”

    Oh right.. So basically 4th place is now a trophy and that’s OK then.

    Personally I think anywhere below 1st is nowhere and a trophy is a trophy which is not 4th place.

  15. HillWood

    That’s the problem for the last 10 years
    If all he sees is the next game the next game the next game he can’t be admitting his previous mistakes and just sweeps it all under the carpet
    The man is in denial

  16. GuNZ

    It is patently evident to me that Wenger’s End Times are upon him. The days become increasingly portentous as the storm clouds gather. Although here, in NZ, we are approaching the end of what has been a glorious summer, the UK – indeed, all Europe – shudders under Fimbulwinter, the prelude to Ragnarök. The top 5 teams above us can be interpreted as Naglfar, the ship made of our discarded finger and toenail clippings that will bear the Giants to the final battle, and Wenger’s ultimately futile contest with them can be seen as a form of Gigantomachy. And, just like Ragnarök, it will end in the death of a once great god, and the renewal of all things in a brand new cycle. Oh yes. and indeedy do!

  17. Marko

    Personally I think anywhere below 1st is nowhere and a trophy is a trophy which is not 4th place.

    Well be that as it may but there’s a difference between 4th and 6th and the champions league is Europe’s premier competition. There’s also a difference between challenging for league titles and finishing nearly 30 points behind the leaders but you know that…I’m sure.

  18. HillWood

    Pedro
    I can’t agree with your headline
    Wenger just plods on in his own world and can’t understand what all the fuss is about

  19. Guns of SF

    Tomorrow we will lose again. I predict 3-1
    We will somehow score one goal.
    I hope its the first one of the game. Then let the bleeding start. Wenger the end is nigh

  20. thank you and goodnight

    Yeah but it’s a lovely pitch though…..oh Wenger we love you……tell you what, I’m smoking the same shit Wenger and the akbs smoke, gooooood shit.

  21. Pierre

    Marko
    Agreed 30 points behind is not challenging for the title and neither is 15 points and more behind challenging for the title.

    When Arsenal consistently finished in champions league spot every season it was belittled on here as a 4th place trophy, now apparently it has become something to be commended for… Strange that.

  22. Guns of SF

    Pierre

    I agree…. how times change…
    Today they announced a loss of 60%. Yet, we made a profit somehow with sales, etc.
    The board meeting coincides with this breaking news….
    Im sure Wenger fell of his chair when they gave him the business stats.

    The issue is that Wenger cannot get us into the CL this year or next.
    The board should have sacked him on Monday.

    If they want their 60% back. get rid of aw. its the only way…

  23. David Smith

    It was always going to get nasty when he goes, it’s going to be scorched earth until June as his sense of now justified paranoia and betrayal comes to fruition, he now has only his yes men, from the leaks and other goings on, let’s hope he doesn’t even have Stan any more.
    I hope he has sufficient dignity left not to subject himself to death by review, but somehow doubt it. He will go in , guns blazing, he won’t be able to say much except his ramblings about these nebulous values, and how he turned Real down. If these clubs want him so much, he needn’t worry , need he.

  24. Mark

    Wenger is a Mr Magoo character , totally blind to the real world, and can only see things how he believes them to be.

    Deep down somewhere inside he knows he’s finished. He just doesn’t have anything else, and the fear in him is why he clings desperately to the power which he has become addicted to.
    I detest him to be honest, I lost what little regard I had for him ages ago. Due to his stubborn arrogance and loser mentality.

    When he is finally gone , I think it’ll be hard to believe, but what a great day for AFC that will be!

    I laughed to myself cos I’m sure there’ll be a few Mugs sad he’s gone. Ty comes to mind amongst a few others.
    Lmfao

  25. nepGunner

    Considering the facts that we now complete for 6th (6th is the new trophy? Anyone?) and this fight for 4th in LG is getting as monotonous as Wenger’s pressers.. I propose a new competition – fight for the 6th position!

    Aaannnddd… (drumroll)..First ever winner of LG6 is…. Akilan!!! Congratulations buddy!!!

  26. Mark

    @Pierre
    ” When Arsenal consistently finished in champions league spot every season it was belittled on here as a 4th place trophy, now apparently it has become something to be commended for …”

    No really Pierre. What People are saying we can’t even do that anymore and are regressing or standing still. That the reason we used to qualify consistently was down to little real competition, now teams are improving, we are unable to Even get top four.
    The sentiment of just getting too four but not really competing in the CL & consistently going out at the last 16, was still not considered good enough.

    I think you’re just trolling.

  27. Marko

    When Arsenal consistently finished in champions league spot every season it was belittled on here as a 4th place trophy, now apparently it has become something to be commended for… Strange that.

    It was belittled because we weren’t challenging for titles now we’re worse off and still not challenging and that’s being criticized as well. I don’t get your point what’s worse not legitimately challenging but making champions league or not legitimately challenging but making Europa League? Forget about the cups because at the end of the day they’re irrelevant if you haven’t competed for a league title for nearly 15 years. The whole point of the stadium move was to compete with the best not finish 4th 5th or 6th

  28. Nw9 gooner

    Watching AC Milan’ s match . Nothing great . If we don’t win then it will be just our inadequacies- we are getting them often now

  29. Emiratesstroller

    Its brutally cold tonight. I wonder if the game will be postponed tomorrow.

    The fact that Man City did not travel today suggests that may well be the case.

    Question is will it be a blessing in disguise? I am not thrilled to go and somehow I
    think that a lot of other fans will go missing.

  30. Marko

    Watching the Milan Lazio game here and it must be said its alright. Both teams excellent defensively and in Romagnoli Bonnucci and DeVrij you’ve got some excellent defenders on show. DeVrij and Gimenez are my dream picks for defensive signings for us

  31. Charlie Nick

    6th is the new 4th whch was the old 1st. The caribou cup is the new champions league last 16. Stand by for the Emirates cup being prioritised next year along with the U-21 entering the EFL trophy.

  32. Pierre

    Marko
    “It was belittled because we weren’t challenging for titles”

    So surely it should be belittled now as Chelsea, spurs, Liverpool and United have not challenged for the title this season.

  33. Marc

    Emirates

    Both clubs have a free weekend in the 17th March so the fixture can be easily rearranged. I won’t go tomorrow if the fixture goes ahead and I’ve a couple of friends who are doing the same.

    If the club pushes ahead, between the weather and last Sunday I reckon you could see a crowd of less than 30,000.

  34. mysticleaves

    Guns of Hackney

    I still dream of Simeone every night and then every time I take a nap.

    Guns of SF
    what’s the SF?

  35. mysticleaves

    From the previous post..

    Elmo, he borrowed to buy the club, not finance the transfer spree. …Milan don’t have organisation. Silvio belersconi was their Wenger in that he controlled every thing and run them into the ground.
    Till Silvio sold up (don’t know of now) Maldini was not with the club, so many legends don’t work with the club and Maldini has voiced out overtime about the rubbish organization and refusal to let legends and football people back to the club just like in Arsenal.
    Milan are really rubbish lately and it didn’t help that their investment in terms of coaches and players always tended to go south.
    This 11 game unbeaten run is just what it is; a run! We would have to watch Milan the whole of next season to conclusively say they have turned a corner for the better.

  36. Marc

    Pierre

    This is the double standard that Arsenal are being judged under, Wenger’s got to go no argument but the Spud’s have gone longer without winning anything than we went after 2005, Liverpool haven’t won a league title since 1990, Utd will be sacking Mourinho before Christmas after spending another £100 million plus in the summer and Chelsea will be replacing another manager after 2 seasons.

    I agree with Pedro once Wenger’s gone our future is very bright.

  37. Guns of SF

    LOL
    I might change this again tomorrow. Bay Area Gooner is too widespread for me. There are some places i dont care for in the Bay, so Im still contemplating.

  38. Marko

    So surely it should be belittled now as Chelsea, spurs, Liverpool and United have not challenged for the title this season.

    Right but there’s a difference between those teams you’ve mentioned and us. One we haven’t competed in nearly 15 years and two we’re worse off than them. Chelsea have won league titles and have shown ambition, Liverpool have in the last few years shown ambition (Salah, Mane, 75 million for Van Dijk, 60 million for Keita who’s brilliant). Spurs again I concede are shite but have improved the last few years while we’ve regressed. Making the point that they’re in the same boat as us or were is kind of missing the point. We haven’t competed for 15 years and are shit now those teams aren’t

  39. Marko

    the Spud’s have gone longer without winning anything than we went after 2005

    Very true but we’re a bigger club and should have bigger ambitions than competing with the likes of them but unfortunately it’s been a steady decline now for over a decade and we honestly haven’t shown ambitions in about 15 years. Even though we’ve spent a lot these last few years

  40. mysticleaves

    GOSF

    Lol, too much thoughts go into these things…a nice pass time though. Thinking of what’s happening to our club and then realising that there’s actually no end has become pretty boring. This current version of hope might kill me…

  41. Ishola70

    Jardim is a very good choice.

    Portuguese managers on the whole know where it’s at and have the pragmatism that this club badly needs. Jardim has pragmatism and the talent to go with it .

  42. Marc

    Marko

    I agree we should be more ambitious but I see the start of change in the signings of Sanllehi and Mislintat. Wenger’s already gone it’s just when, let’s stop whinging and get behind the new future at the club.

  43. Ishola70

    Regarding the Milan tie Arsenal should target that raggedy left back/wing back Rodriguez.

    Very suspect defensively and another dodgy Swiss footballer.

  44. Ishola70

    lol all this slating of Lacazette and Aubameyang has not even proved his worth yet.

    It’s like folks think it is impossible for Aubameyang to disappoint.

    Stranger things have happened.

  45. Marko

    let’s stop whinging and get behind the new future at the club.

    I’m sorry but has anything changed? Like right now has anything changed? Are we still shit and suffering embarrassing defeats? Why exactly should people stop “whinging” and get behind the “new future”? Absolute nonsense there fella cause the last time I checked we still have Wenger as manager and not much else has changed

  46. Bamford10

    Pierre

    “Anyone can see there is an agenda from the media against the club.”

    Ludicrous. None of the clubs you’ve mentioned are in anything even remotely resembling the situation we have been in for some time, and none are in anything approaching the sad state we are at the moment.

    You are deluded.

  47. champagne charlie

    Marko

    you’re a bit all over the show mate. How are Liverpool showing ambition by splashing the cash, but when we do it it’s just splashing the cash with no ambition? Don’t change the goalposts to suit.

    Spurs and Liverpool have their own issues, lets not pretend suddenly they’re fucking mint and we could only dream of such heights. We basically ticked over above their level for a decade and folk are sick of it. Yea, yea, Klopp and Poch are shiny and modern, but neither have won a thing here and I’m not buying this idea they’re ‘challenging’ if in the same breath you cast Arsenal aside for not challenging along the way.

    I’m all for picking apart the mess we’re in, but lets not rewrite history and glorify others to put ourselves down. A lot of excessive nonsense gets said because everyones a bit fed up of knowing how the movie ends.

  48. Bamford10

    Pierre

    “Oh right.. So basically 4th place is now a trophy and that’s OK then.”

    Spurs are a smaller club than us with a smaller budget. They’re impressing in Europe. They are over-performing in some ways. And people have still penned many articles saying it’s time they win something.

    What the fuck are you on about?

  49. champagne charlie

    “And people have still penned many articles saying it’s time they win something.”

    Well if bleacher report say they should win something idk why they haven’t.

    Only fact stated: they have-not won anything.

  50. Guns of SF

    Mystic
    Arsenal are boring. There is nothing new except the predicatable drama that surrounds this club. ITs more like a movie than reality.
    The winning and games are secondary. This has turned into Arsene FC, which is the tragedy that has befallen all of us.

  51. Bamford10

    Actually, many people have written articles saying it’s time for Spurs to win something. That is a fact. It is also a fact that they are a smaller club than Arsenal, with a smaller budget and a smaller wage bill. It’s also a fact that they are impressing in Europe. It’s also a fact that, though they haven’t won anything, they are a better team and in a better place than Arsenal. All facts.

  52. Guns of SF

    Bamford
    I too have wondered about the answer to the question… Clearly he has a philosphy and style of play but is also pragmatic in approaching games.
    This is the type of manager we need. A Blend…

    Any others have a take on this question???

  53. Bamford10

    Hillwood

    Pierre seems to think (i) Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea and United are in just as bad a place as we are or as we have been in the recent past, and (ii) no one is saying anything critical about Mourinho, Conte, Liverpool or Spurs.

    Both claims are nonsense.

  54. Ishola70

    Bamford Buckhurst Gun already wrote a very good post on the previous entry addressing those that keep on about clubs being as bad as Arsenal or even stating that Arsenal have done better in recent seasons.

    As he explained football has changed now in that just picking up a domestic cup is not seen as mixing it with the big boys unless that domestic cup is also won with a league title.

    Clubs are judged now in the higher stakes in how they fare in the league and how they get on in the Champions League. That’s it.

    Seems some are stuck in a past time warp of 70s, 80s and early 90s football.

  55. Pierre

    Correct Bamford, they are all facts(possibly) but the most important fact of all is…….. They still have not won anything…… nothing, nada, niente, nichts.

    Whatever language you say it in their trophy cabinet has been empty for a very long time.

  56. Redtruth

    Marc not going because of poor weather and not because of 14 years of stagnating football lol fans are truly thick and deserve the club they get..

  57. Dissenter

    Arsenal and England midfielder Jack Wilshere, 26, says he will quit the club in the summer, unless they offer him a significantly improved contract.

    Quit and go
    He won’t get a club bigger than Arsenal, even if we get mired in an elite mediocre state.
    Our contract situation is in shamble once we gave Ozil that mega contract. We should have swallowed the bitter pill.
    We will rue the day we allowed a player to bully the club to get a mega wage. No everyone will try the same tactic.

  58. Marko

    you’re a bit all over the show mate. How are Liverpool showing ambition by splashing the cash, but when we do it it’s just splashing the cash with no ambition? Don’t change the goalposts to suit.

    I mean they’re doing it and getting results they’re making champions league we’re doing it and quite obviously regressing. Also there’s a massive difference between how they’ve spent their money compared to us. They’ve signed really smart players like Salah, Firmino, Mane and before that Coutinho players we could have afforded and should have targeted and they had/have a problem defensively and at least tried to address it with Van Dijk. We on the other hand have signed poorly if we’re honest these last few years and while I’m not writing off the likes of Auba and Lacazette I feel like it’s safe to say that their attack is undoubtedly better. Also we once again continue to fail to address the defence and links to Johnny Evans isn’t the same as signing Van Dijk. Also I believe that the signing of Naby Keita is a massive signal of intent he’s that good imo.

    I honestly don’t know why we’re having these types of conversations regularly. I would have thought it’s pretty obvious that clubs like Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea, United and City are on the up and showing varying degrees of ambition whereas we clearly are regressing and haven’t shown ambition for a long time.

  59. Marko

    Yea, yea, Klopp and Poch are shiny and modern, but neither have won a thing here and I’m not buying this idea they’re ‘challenging’ if in the same breath you cast Arsenal aside for not challenging along the way.

    Both are for all extensive purposes considered good managers right? Can we say the same about Wenger? I never said that they were challenging even though since we last challenged for a league title which was 14 years ago both Liverpool and Spurs have come close to challenging we have not. But it’s pretty obvious the progress they’re making while we’re declining. I don’t know why this is hard for people to understand or why they feel the need to argue about this. I’d have thought it’s pretty obvious that we’re shite these days while others mentioned are doing better. In saying all that I believe a new manager is all we need to get us back on track. We’re maligned due to one man imo

  60. TonyD

    Fram the DM this morning and typifies Wenger’s thinking:

    “In Wenger’s own mind, he doesn’t understand what all the fuss is about. There were even attempts at Wednesday’s press briefing to claim his side’s passage to the Carabao Cup final as some sort of triumph.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5447541/Arsene-Wenger-not-leave-Arsenal-quietly-summer.html#ixzz58SkqCQrb

    Pierre
    Good to see you are taking your daily humiliation posts to a new increased level.

    Wasn’t sure you could get any worse, but it’s obvious now you’ve still got a few downward levels to go.

    What a sad man you are.

  61. TonyD

    Whatever the comments on here for Wenger and the hopefulness of putting names forward to replace Wenger, the fact remains that our club is a money making enterprise first with the efforts on the pitch and winning titles very much secondary.

    I don’t for a minute think we should be a loss making business, but it’s how our money is spent and what management does with the money that’s the main issue.

    It seems to me that the club hierarchy from Wenger upwards have lost sight that success on the pitch in winning titles etc is what makes The Arsenal a much more profitable concern.

    The financial report below does not mention the losses we’ve made from Sanchez and the need to change the wage structuring of the squad as well as the position we are in for further losses with players being at the end of their contracts because they will either demand ridiculous unwarranted increases financial contracts or the costs of replacing such players if you can call them that.

    Keswick is just banging the worn out drum in defense of the club’s financial aspirations with the zero realisation that this season is a mitigating disaster thus far with no signs of improving.

    “Arsenal announce £58.4MILLION profit from summer transfer market with club continuing Premier League top four struggle as chairman vows ‘strong finish’ to the season

    Arsenal have announced huge profits from their summer transfer dealings

    The club sold Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Wojciech Szczesny and Kieran Gibbs

    Until November 2017, Arsenal revealed they made ‘profits on players to £58.4m’

    Arsenal Holdings plc announced a pre-tax profit of £25.1m – double that of 2016

    They also admitted £23.4m losses from not competing in Champions League

    Arsenal chairman Sir Chips Keswick said: ‘This has not been the easiest of campaigns but we are all working hard to ensure we have a strong finish.

    ‘Breaking our transfer record twice in one season and the player contracts we have signed shows our commitment to getting the club back competing for the Premier League.

    ‘However our strategy remains self-financing and we must accept all the challenges that bring at a time when the inflation of transfer fees, player wages and the fees demands by agents has become super-heated.

    ‘We need to spend effectively and be the best we can across the whole of our football operations if we are to compete at the level our ambitions for the club demand.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5445943/Arsenal-announce-huge-profits-summer-transfer-market.html#ixzz58StYTRXZ

  62. gonsterous

    any manager with tactical insight can beat arsenal over 2 legs… remember when psv kicked us out, or even monaco. wenger has been lucky to face bayern and barca in the round of 16 to save him any further embarrassment. remember how an unknown team from Sweden almost knocked us out last month ?

  63. TonyD

    It’s no wonder Wenger doesn’t admit his failings because the management business model is to just throw bluff and bluster out there while massaging the financials to look sustainable and ignoring the areas where Wenger’s pathetic management performance has and is costing the club tens of millions of pounds and in the future will cost the club over £100 million.

    Wenger said his job is to perform.

    When part from a few FA cups has he performed to do his job in winning a title or progress to the last 8 of the champions league in the last 14 years?

    I’d be very interested to know what Wenger actually sees qualifies as performing, and I’d love for the press to ask Wenger what his definition is of performing over a season and not just the next game.

    When you read the above DM article you wonder if Wenger will be permitted to stay for as long as he is able to breathe?

    As I’ve said many times before Wenger will remain as manager until he is a financial liability.

    Tonight’s game
    The weather report is for 1*C so the game should go ahead but it will be in the club’s interest to postpone with the current mental status of the squad.

    If it goes ahead I can’t see us winning but possibly drawing while we park the Jose bus.

    Maybe if we lose the press will finally ask Wenger the questions we want to see asked.

    I’d love to see the Emirates as empty as possible tonight but the club will no doubt use the weather as an excuse.

  64. TonyD

    ‘We need to spend effectively and be the best we can across the whole of our football operations if we are to compete at the level our ambitions for the club demand.’

    So Chips old man what exactly are the level of ambitions you and the club demand?

  65. UTarse

    It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Arsenal postponed the game tonight, it’s a free option to arrest a poor run and have a break to take the heat of le fraud and his team of pampered pussies. A week off and a chance to win the next game so all is forgeotten again.

    They’ll cite “unsafe for supporters attending” bollocks. Fucking joke club.

  66. Ishola70

    TonyD:

    From Daily Mail:

    “In Wenger’s own mind, he doesn’t understand what all the fuss is about. There were even attempts at Wednesday’s press briefing to claim his side’s passage to the Carabao Cup final as some sort of triumph.”

    Ah someone else picked up on it. Mentioned this on the previous entry.

    As said before he is very comfortable in lowering the sights of the club.

    As the club regresses he will find any meagre scrap and try to polish it.

    That sort of talk from Wenger yesterday about the Carabooboo was for a club in the lower depths of the EPL or a Championship side.

  67. Black Snake

    I agree with TonyD, Wenger is not going anywhere for another year. The board are completely spineless to get rid of him, theyre just hoping he jacks it in so they dont have to make a decision.

  68. Jeff

    I disagree with the notion that Wenger’s job is to “perform”. His job is to make sure the team performs and performs well.

  69. Rambo Ramsey

    PEA: “Arsenal were the only club who made an offer, a real offer, and I’m really happy, because it’s a good club.”

    Lmao

  70. Pierre

    Gonsterous
    “any manager with tactical insight can beat arsenal over 2 legs…”

    Antonio Conte never managed it a month ago and I rate him highly.

    I would put conte down as one of the most tactically astute managers in the world.

    Maybe we just met him on a bad day eh.

  71. Terraloon

    Tony D

    To date I have only seen one attempt to examine the latest set of figures the reality is that the fire sale of players has masked matters that will become obvious as the year progresses.
    Last season in the second period of the accounting year the club received over £3 million from the FA cup win as well as substantial CL monies . There is little to be gained by getting to the Carabo cup final and to win the EL will only just match the fA cup income from last season.
    After tax the profit was £20 million that sum , in accounting terms will have been attributed in full to and then some by the sale of the Ox to Liverpool. Very little of the cost of Lacazette will have featured in the numbers which were only up to the end on November.
    Ok cash reserves have grown by £20 million but when you factor in some £14 million was received from a property sale and the fact that player sales in the summer would have resulted in more coming in than going out then the gloss being put on the figures fades quite rapidly
    We are seeing the growth in wages that was promised in a half year they were up by £13.2 million . Quite a sum yes selling players will have eased the growth but the January additions will be getting a bigger wedge than the players that left and when you factor in Ozil pay rise then it’s anyones guess what the numbers will be for the whole year.
    In the last full accounts the club estimated the loss of CL income would only cost £25 million that sum looks to be understated as up till the end of November it was in excess of £24 million.
    What is clear is that the squad is going through significant change.Selling the likes of Theo or the ox maybe isn’t such an issue but the clear inference in Sir Chipps statement is that the plan is to promote from within for the majority of squad replacements.Will that work?

  72. Unathanthium

    The day Twattwood on Untrolled gives up on Wenger then we’ll know the AKBs have turned.

    I see Alexander Henry ripped old Twatwood a new gaping one. A list of all the team’s shortcomings and then a very solid inquiry as to how Twatwwod can support his maniac theory about the PGMOL conspiracy against Arsenal. Of course Twatwood won’t debate because he’s got no proof, he just says, “time to stop” and then usually bans you from the site.

    I asked him why the PGMOL would want to hinder the team’s progress and how it would be done, you know get all the refs on side to ensure we don’t win the league. I mean can you imagine the logistics behind it all. And why? For what purpose?

    I got the same comeback as Mr. Henry. I was told the debate was getting boring and was ended. I know why though Twattwood, it’s because you’re talking effing crap.

    I endured a similar conversation from his dumb sidekick Falter about four years ago. He just said that he knew there was a conspiracy against Arsenal and had proof but he couldn’t reveal it because his source would be in some opaque peril. It was like some crap from the X Files and just as unbelievable.

  73. Emiratesstroller

    The weather forecast is -1 Degrees [chill factor -7 Degrees].

    Part of the Piccadilly line was not operating this morning.

    Manchester City did not travel to London last night so I would put odds on the
    game being cancelled.

    I find it strange that Arsenal have not announced when the Referee will make decision.

    In any event I will put odds that the stadium will be half empty. In normal circumstances I would go to game as it is against top five opposition, but the way
    we are playing at moment I am not inclined to do so.

    If it goes ahead I can watch it on tv in comfort of my home.

  74. Emiratesstroller

    Arsenal’s interim balance sheet does not look good.

    There was a significant reduction in football revenue due to not playing in Champions League.

    The so-called increase in profits is due almost entirely because of the transfers we made in summer.

    The bank balance calculations have been changed. In the past our huge bank
    balance did not discount potential long term financial commitments. Those
    seem to have been taken out of equation.

    From my understanding there was an unencumbered bank balance in excess
    of £100 million at end of November. This was presumably available for transfers and increased wage bills.

    The Aubameyang transfer would have been covered by sale of Coquelin, Giroud and Walcott which was collectively generating over £50 million.

    So in theory we have still got over £100 million to spend on transfers this summer.

  75. WengerEagle

    And people are shocked when they see Aubameyang have stinker after stinker in big games.

    There’s a good reason that no other club was in for him, despite being a prime age 40 goal a season CF in Germany.

  76. TitsMcGee

    The guy with the pony tail in that video let’s Wenger off easy. Speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

  77. TitsMcGee

    “In Wenger’s own mind, he doesn’t understand what all the fuss is about. There were even attempts at Wednesday’s press briefing to claim his side’s passage to the Carabao Cup final as some sort of triumph.”

    Lol

    As expected.

    We went from:

    1. competing with Utd for the league
    2. Celebrating top 4 finishes. “4th place is a trophy”.
    3. “We were top of the league for x weeks” trophy
    4. “We beat Leicester twice” trophy.
    5. ” 5th place isn’t so bad”
    6. “We almost won the Carabao Cup ” trophy.

    Lol

    Constant goalpost shifting.

  78. TonyD

    Funny that we can play in the depths of Sweden but tonight’s game could be called off.

    Don’t we have under soil heating?

    Mind you Ozil must be horrified at the thought of playing 2 games in 5 days without a holiday.

  79. TonyD

    Mind you Ozil didn’t really play in the final although he was there going through the motions of anonymity.

    Perhaps he was saving himself for tonight’s game.

  80. TonyD

    Since Mikhi’s arrival it seems he’s taught Wishire the art of spectacularly throwing himself to the ground when tackled or close to an posing player. Then pounding the ground in demented fashion if a free kick isn’t awarded.

    Well Mikki had to bring something to the club as footbll talent isn’t in his locker going by his last 2 games.

  81. Leedsgunner

    On the 26 February I wrote,

    “I expect to see Wenger to [XXXX] stories to appear soon. They always do when he’s under threat… Just like how Wenger paints himself as a martyr of sorts by saying,

    “I’ve could have gone to this or that club, but I chose to stay at the Arsenal because I love it so much.”

    The implication being that we shouldn’t dump him because he has shown such loyalty to us.The truth is he knows, we know, everyone knows the reason he has stayed with the Arsenal is because we are the only club weak enough to put up with this nonsense.”

    …and what do we find Wenger bleating on his pre Man City presser yesterday? That exact thing.

    “”I’ve turned the whole world down to respect my contracts,” he added.

    O STILL, MY BRRRREAKING HEART. HE TURNED THE WHOLE WORLD HOW CAN WE LET HIM GO NOW?!?

    *FACEPALM*

    How does he have the audacity to turn up and spout his utter nonsense!?!

    He’s so predictable.

    He is world football’s original passive aggressive. In fact you could say he guilt tripped the whole club into giving him a new contract after new contract even though his performances didn’t merit it.

    Wenger is a dead man walking.

    He might have the label “manager” on his doorplate and he might wear the “AW” on his training top, but everyone knows that Arsenal is rudderless.

    No doubt, he will maintain that he loves the club. Don’t you believe it. If he did love the club, he would leave the club. He is holding the club back and he knows it. He just doesn’t want to face the truth.

    Yet as always, it’s not about the club for Arsene. It’s about him.

    In his own world, he is Arsenal. In his own mind, he is bigger than the club.

  82. WrightIsGod

    Why is Simeone not our number one choice.

    Correct me if I’m wrong but his La Liga stats this season are like lost 1 conceded 12 in like 28 games. That’s unbelievable.

    His only issue at that current team is they can’t score enough goals but they are living embodiment that if you don’t concede goals you can still always win games.

    Simeone is the man to rip out this crappy culture at the club.

    Pedro likes his cultured and fancy names, but Monaco were gun ho last year and always deceptable to defensive lapses. We need a tough defensive disciplinarian.

    Simeone is my number 1 pick hands down.

    Names like Arteta, Rodgers, Henry and Vieira literally make me roll my eyes and reach for the sick bucket.

  83. Leedsgunner

    “”It’s not always possible to win games. We have to live with the criticism, it’s part of the modern game. But we have to focus on the next one and respond together in a united way.”

    Didn’t he say something similar when we lost to the Swedish minnows?

    How was the “response” in the League Cup final?

    What is amazing is that Wenger has the front to peddle the same excuses and he thinks he can get away with it.

    Strangely enough we’ll probably win or draw tonight and Wenger will hail the mental strength of the team and say the response shows great character. Yep. He always sings when he wins. Where was the mental strength this past month?

    The trend is the important thing. If we win, and you find yourself thinking… that’s it… we’ve turned the corner. Stop. Do yourself a favour and stand back and look at the trend.

    We’re heading toward an iceberg, and with Wenger in charge we’re going to sink.

  84. TT

    We are not going to win or draw tonight Leeds. This team is finished. Would not be surprised if we draw or lose to Brighton on the weekend either.

  85. Leedsgunner

    WrightisGod

    Simeone has been my number 1 choice for a long time… he loves nothing better than to give pamper footballers a kicking… just ask David Beckham 😉

  86. Pierre

    Tony’s sad attempt at being a comedian is actually funnier than his attempt at humour.

    A word of advice for you tony …….you’re not funny .

  87. WengerEagle

    Costa’s arrival has made a big difference.

    They put 4 past Leganes last night and 5 past Sevilla last weekend, Griezmann has benefitted immensely from Costa taking the goalscoring burden off of him. He’s scored 10 La Liga goals in his last 7 matches, including 7 in his last 2 matches with 4 last night and a hat-rick away at Sevilla.

  88. Paulinho

    I compared Aubameyang to Gervinho when he joined and I think it still stands.

    He’s not prepared to work defenders for chances. Back into them or get in their heads over a ninety minutes, work for an inch in the box with the same hunger or forcefulness of a Kane.

    Like when Gervinho played as a number nine for that spell, he needs everything to be clean and simple; a straight ball over the top to run onto and finish. You feel likes defenders only really have to worry about him if they get caught playing a high line. Once a defence sits deep or the ball goes wide, then as a defender you know Aubameyang is not really going to make you work from crosses or general persistence.

  89. WengerEagle

    Paulinho

    Agree, it’s why I love Diego Costa and Luis Suarez so much as strikers.

    I watched Atletico Madrid destroy Sevilla at the weekend in Seville 5-2 and Costa was brilliant, opened the scoring by pressurising the GK and defenders into making a mistake as Sevilla like to play it out from the back, he also won a penalty that Griezmann put away by similarly being a nuisance and creating pressure with his off the ball pressing.

    Firmino is another player that displays this for Liverpool, can’t bully defenders in the way Costa can but he forces them into comitting errors and picks up possession in high areas up the pitch.

  90. HighburyLegend

    “Why is Simeone not our number one choice.”

    Probably because they are NO choice at all in the first place.
    (“we can’t see another man who could fit the job”)

  91. Terraloon

    Stroller

    Based on past financial statements a significant element of the cash reserves is made up of the likes of advanced season ticket sales and are released into the cash flow at the rate of about £8-10 million a month. I too find it interesting that the narrative around the cash reserves has changed. I wonder why?

    Although no fee was involved in the Sanchez deal that will have cost a packet to get over the line. We know already from the Utd perspective just how expensive that was but I suspect that it will have cost between £10-20 million by way of loyalty payments, agent fees and indeed signing on fees

    The second half a year will in all probability see expenditure exceed income by a margin as you suggest the increase in wages will probably be funded in part from the reserves which in themselves will in all likelihood depleted due to the season ticket discounts/ refunds next season all coming about down to this seasons failures

    Arsenal aren’t Chelsea I know that’s obvious but when they sell players thy make vast sums from not just squad players they sell players who have been out on loan for vast sums.
    The last two windows have seen what 8 squad players leaveArsenal and 4 come in. Ok there was some deadwood in there the squad imbalance is getting worse and with in the cost of sorting it out goes ever upwards. With the inflation in the market and very little top value players to be sold to help with the then I question if a £100 million will scratch the surface .
    Ok I can’t see that the like of Gazidis is going to need to double up as a Big Issue seller but things are far from rosy .

  92. Paulinho

    WE – Yeah, they can never settle with those players that are a threat from any angle or scenario on the pitch. Aubameyang switches off when the ball is around the corner flag and the box is congested. He’s not interested unless there is obious space to run into.

  93. Leedsgunner

    I’m very disappointed with Özil.

    With Sanchez’s departure he needed to step and make his mark on the team. As one of the world’s best playmakers he has been given all the tools including two clinical strikers to provide service to. Where is he?

    After playing well this season, it seems like he has retreated back into his shell.

    Oh well, I shouldn’t be surprised, Theo has been doing the same for years. Wenger of course won’t challenge him because I’m sure he’s just grateful to Mesut for renewing — saving him further aggro from his critics.

    What a rotten culture Wenger has instilled at our club now.

  94. Paulinho

    Ozil could play that cup final 100 times and 100 times he would do nothing.

    People say he is inconsistent. He’s not. He’s consistently good at home against crap teams is capable of damaging good teams as well at times, but away from home and on big occasions forget it. Same with Mikhi to an extent.

    It’s like a parting of the red sea in central areas with those types of players about. That’s why this team so desperately relies on Ramsey, because he is the only one that makes the same runs regardless of occasion.

  95. WengerEagle

    I don’t think he was literally comparing Auba to Gervinho player to player, just likening Gervinho’s limited game-play to Auba’s in that they both thrive given time an space, clearly Auba does this at an elite level whereas Gervinho ends up on his arse more times than not.

    Auba’s as good as anyone in a breakaway 1 on 1 with the GK, problem is how often do you manufacture these scenarios game by game. He’s a poacher, a penalty box finisher and a great one at that.

    If you’re expecting an elite all-round game then you’re going to be extremely disappointed.

  96. WengerEagle

    Agree about Ozil, been found out as a complete fraud these last couple of years in particular.

    As much as Santi was loved by the fans (plenty of revisionism), he was similarly ineffective on the biggest stage and particularly away from home in the UCL where he was awful more often than not.

  97. Steveyg87

    And of course Pep would back Wenger, he knows a decent manager could turn us in to competitors and threaten his guaranteed title next season

  98. Emiratesstroller

    Terra loon

    Fundamentally I agree with your post.

    I don’t think that Arsenal would have paid £10 million in loyalty bonuses, because Man Utd were desperate to see the deal of Sanchez over line albeit they probably regret it now.

    The only additional calculation is likely to be additional wage bill for Mkhitaryan over what Sanchez received. From recollection we paid Sanchez £140K
    Pw. I think that we are paying Mkhitaryan £180K pw.

    Aubameyang by all accounts also receives £180K pw. Both these wage bills will have been covered by wages paid to Coquelin, Giroud and Walcott.

    So the only likely wage bill to be covered will be what we are now paying Ozil.

  99. Marko

    Ozil is a massive pussy and nothing more. Zero fight zero consistency. Again missed a great opportunity to rid ourselves of the player

  100. Bamford10

    WE

    “And people are shocked when they see Aubameyang have stinker after stinker in big games.”

    Except that this has not occurred. One, how many “big games” has he played for us thus far? Two, being ineffectual as a CF is not the same as “having a stinker”. Which is not to say the former is not a problem, but the latter involves many touches and chances and doing poorly when given those touches and chances. The latter does not.

    You’re getting a little carried away here. You’ll need a good deal more data to make such a pronouncement.

  101. Marko

    You’re getting a little carried away here. You’ll need a good deal more data to make such a pronouncement.

    Like when arguing that Mustafi is a better RB than a CB and all you had was a link to a game against Algeria years ago? 😉 sorry I had to

  102. WengerEagle

    Bamford

    Well he stunk out the place at Spurs and was useless on Sunday in the Cup Final, missed not 1 but 2 sitters in one swift move.

    That’s 2 out of 3 matches he’s played for us.

    Also comes from watching him at Dortmund, don’t know why people think in 2018 when you can watch any major league match in Europe that it’s nigh on impossible to track players outside of the BPL.

  103. Bamford10

    Marko

    Actually, I have plenty of data/evidence for that claim. Given how poor he is as a CB, it wouldn’t require much data/evidence to support my claim. That he has played RB — indeed started for Germany as RB in a knockout round of the World Cup — is plenty. But this point isn’t all that important. I still don’t see it the way you and others do. Not a big deal.