Wenger’s career on the line for another cup final, can he do it again?

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Well, here we stand, on the precipice of more cup final greatness. Arsene Wenger, the master of the domestic knockouts, heads to Wembley with his band of inconsistent men in the hope of papering over another depressingly average crack of a season.

He takes on Pep G, a man he dispatched of in last seasons FA Cup semi-final in the same ground, against a similar backdrop of doubt. This time, the task seems slightly more daunting. Manchester City are Celtic levels of dominant in the league, playing a brand of elite football we’ve not seen in the Premier League since the Invincbles era.

The vision of absolute football is being enacted in the most grotesque of ways. Arsenal needed a centre-back this January, we baulked at £20m for Jonny Evans, City had the same challenge and floated £65m down to northern Spain without batting an eyelid. Their squad is dripping in talent, and more importantly, there’s a captain onboard who is driving the ship through icebergs to make his mark.

Arsenal on the other side of the fence are the rich southern cousin sitting in a pool of their own urine cutting heart shapes into a dead guinea pig. All our wounds are self-inflicted, and most of our behaviour is inexplicable.

We spent the summer in denial about our squad bankruptcy, then the bailiffs had to be hired in October to deal with the gigantic mess the landlord has inflicted.

In January, we flogged our best player, then moved on a whole bunch of dross. The squad was reshaped, but the same problems were still there. Namely, a crazy captain who has chained himself to the good ship HMS Arsenal, and refuses to leave regardless of how much water has come aboard.

Today, Wenger knows that his chance to secure another season at the club is now. He has to turn over Pep G. He has to do it with a dogged performance. He has to buy some love from the home fans, because mutiny in the ground over the next ten games won’t help his review at the end of the season.

We know that this Arsenal team, on their day, can fight it out with the best. Wenger is capable of focusing his players when the something important is needed. The players can listen to instructions, they can press, they can hold their positions, and they can make magic happen if need be.

Cup teams live for the moment. They rally enough energy to see the project through. They sense the history, they taste the glory, they forget all that has gone before and make it happen for 90 minutes.

That’s our best hope.

Wenger is playing into the emotion of the occasion.

“The emotional level is very high, the expectation is very high… every kid who goes with their father to a cup final never forgets it. When you’re a child, it’s like a baptism. You’re forever marked with the club and on a day like that you want your fans to go home and be happy.”

We know that the squad will be fresh after a week off. Aaron Ramsey might be available, we’ll need his energy, and we’ll need him to be at the top of his game from a discipline perspective. Ozil took a holiday again, so hopefully, his mind will be focused and he can channel some of that semi-final leadership vibes we enjoyed. We’ll also have to expect a big game from Auba tomorrow. His pace and movement on that pitch will be essential.

We also have to hope that Xhaka – who will absolutely start – can keep his mind on the pitch. We’ll need to have an incredible day at the back, in particular, David Ospina needs to bring his absolute a game.

It’s a total roll of the dice. We’ll either be incredible, or we’ll take a spanking so harsh, you’ll want to cry.

Over to you Mr Wenger.

P.S. Check out our cup special with Alan Smith because it’s excellent! He talks about cup final mentality, THAT CWC FINAL, Steve Bould, and Patrick Vieira. If you haven’t listened, have a quiet word with yourself, then take the plunge. It’s totally excellent.

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  1. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Im not one for firing coaches or managers at will, such as what Chelsea do, but Jesus F’n C, this is beyond ridiculous to watch this unmitigated shitshow continue week after week and year after year. From one extreme to the other.

  2. ArseneisaFraud

    TitsMcGee

    They dared have an opinion.

    And that is it. Speak up and dare to challenge the status quo and you get 0 game time. One has to wonder whether Eddie Nketiah did this as he is no longer getting any game time.

  3. Elmo

    We’re going to lose to Milan.

    Just watching them win away at Roma and they look exactly the set-up of team that will neutralise us.

    Well-organised, strong defensively, and good on the counter with a young striker in great goalscoring form.

    The new manager Gattuso has done exactly what we need: replaced a tactically weak manager who had lost the dressing room by infusing passion and a drive for high standards back into the club. Milan are confident and on the up, and we are in another tailspin.

  4. TitsMcGee

    The look on Wenger’s face after Ostersund went up 2-0 the other night shows his true confidence level. He is full of self doubt at the moment despite his bravado in the press.

    In reality he doesn’t know how to do any better because let’s face it he’s doing the same as he’s done in the past. The only difference these last two seasons is that there are two more contenders for top 4 so he’s been knocked down 2 notches.

    Losing cup finals and not winning the league were mitigated by finishing top 4. Enter Liverpool and Spurs and now top 4 is no guarantee and you get what we’ve seen the last two seasons.

    He’s been so used to cruising that now he’s in an alley fight he gets shanked repeatedly.

  5. TheBayingMob

    No League cup
    No FA cup
    Most likely no Europa cup
    No top 4
    Possibly the lowest point tally in the league for a while What happens to Wenger in the summer? Business as usual?“

    It’s all the refs fault!! Oh and City’s money (says the man who has spent record breaking club fees for dross the last few years) …

  6. TitsMcGee

    It’s all the refs fault!! Oh and City’s money (says the man who has spent record breaking club fees for dross the last few years) …”

    Last few years?

    Lol

    He’s spent £105 million on two players in the past 8 months. Lol

  7. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Happy days are hear again

    The sun is out the sky is blue

    Happy days are hear again,

    The silver lining is he will go

  8. TheBayingMob

    “He’s been so used to cruising“

    It’s less so cruising. It’s more he only knows how to do this one way, he has absolutely no idea how to change. It’s a little bit like driving a dying car. Every day the motor sounds a little rougher. Every day it takes longer to start. But instead of learning how to sort it out, buying some new tools, asking other people, taking some courses the silly old cunt just keeps turning the key flabbergasted as to why HIS special invincible key doesn’t work anymore!

    It’ll always be other people’s fault. Never his special key.

  9. TitsMcGee

    #afc players rightly being criticised for a lack of fight, but it’s been clear for years that the real problem lies in the technical area. Wenger is a great man, and was a great manager, but the club have to move on.”

    –Henry Winter

  10. TitsMcGee

    It’s less so cruising. It’s more he only knows how to do this one way, he has absolutely no idea how to change”

    To me that’s the thing. He’s like an engineer that got comfortable and stayed in one company at one position for 20 years. Didn’t adapt because he didn’t have to. Things were set.

    Company then folds and that engineer is forced to compete with modern trends and ideas and he struggles.

    Wenger ignored our needs in transfer windows for years. Why? Because he didn’t have to address the needs. He knew he could tinker incrementally and we’d still comfortably finish top 4 (and we did for many years).

    Then what? Spurs and Liverpool actually stumble upon good managers. They are now players. Circa the same time City sign Pep. Mourinho signs for UTD and Conte signs for Chelsea. Top 4 wasn’t going to be the same walk in the park. I don’t think it’s coincidence we saw Wenger drop almost £100 million that summer.

    Problem is he’s in no position to compete anymore no matter how much he spends (cough, Lacazette, Auba, cough) because he spent too long being comfortable. The game has passed him by.

  11. Tippitappi

    Think it’s fair to say now the negatives outweigh the positives during his dictatorship now just fuck off with no fan fair

  12. Leftsidesanch

    Wenger on Neville.

    ‘We played against a good side, you cannot say it’s an average side. They dominate the Premier League.

    ‘Some of them [pundits] have been players and I know them. They have not always played at 200% [themselves].’

    Lmao sorry to say but he is a piece of sh*t.

  13. Dissenter

    Milan just beat Roma
    8th consecutive victory in the serie A, excellent form just in time to turn Wenger into a wimp on the bench.
    Forza Milan.

  14. Dissenter

    Gary Neville is an idiot
    He was the one mocking fans who wanted Wenger out last season and wouldn’t directly criticize the manager.
    He probably believes that criticizing the team and manager is the exclusive preserve of pundits like himself. He’s not saying anything new, he saying stuff that Arsenal fans have been saying forever, the same criticism that he called out last season.
    He still shirks from criticizing Wenger directly till date. It’s like the blue code of silence amongst corrupt police. He never calls Wenger by name.

  15. TitsMcGee

    I hate Gary Neville
    But he was spot on ridiculing Arsenal live on TV today”

    He’s a bit of a hypocrite but he was spot on and I loved hearing it.

    Wenger defending Ramsey etc is exactly the type of circle-jerk that Arsenal has become. Wenger pays them ridic wages and in turn they STFU and don’t rock the boat.

    Hands wash hands.

  16. TitsMcGee

    The Mustafi howler today was even worse than his shocker against Manure”

    I got into a tiff on here (think it was Chigooner or Chicago Gooner) when we first signed Mustafi for saying that he was just “okay” as a defender and that we paid too much for him.

    Fast forward a couple of years and lol

    I think under a strict manager that preached discipline he’d be serviceable as most of our players would. The big steaming pile of dog shiiite in the middle of the room remains though.

  17. Carts

    As Wenger always respect his contract, I find it hard to see what the fuck happens when we lose to Milan and finish outside the top 4.

    How is this old fool going to spin his agenda this time round?

    Josh Kroenke and Gazidis must usurp Wenger…process must begin in earnest!

    £100m in less than a year and we look more clueless than ever.

    I think Stuart Robson said it best “Wenger can’t be trusted with money”.

  18. omar

    Played-20, Win-9, Draw-6, Lose-5.
    These are our stats in games with the legendary Jack Wilshere starting in our midfield. Those 9 wins came against mighty teams like Crystal Palace(x2), BATE Borisov(x2), Red Star Belgrade, Doncaster, Norwich and Newcastle. Only team of note we won with him in the starting line-up was Chelsea 2nd leg in the Carabou Cup semi.
    Was he our best player again today as usual?
    Was he the only player that wanted it again today as usual?
    Was he the only one that played with passion again today as usual?
    Everyone hated Pep when he called him out years ago when he said he isnt special and there are 100’s of him in Spain. Eddie Howe eventually realised in less than a season that he isnt anything special. Everyone was cussing Roy Keane when he called a spade a spade a few days ago. The only ones that cant get over his ‘potential’ and a good game vs Barca ages ago is us.
    Everyone was on about how injuries were hampering him. I beg to differ, injuries kept him at Arsenal for so long because he always had that as an excuse to fall back on. This is going on two seasons that he has been relatively injury free, what is the excuse now.

  19. Leedsgunner

    After we lost to the Swedes on Thursday Wenger begged everyone to brush over the negativity because the response was in his words, the most important thing.

    This game was the response.

    Pitiful.

  20. Leedsgunner

    Two Q to the board

    1. Why did you give Wenger a new contract?
    2. When are you going to fire him? When is enough enough?

  21. Pierre

    We were poor today without a doubt and didn’t deserve anything from the game.

    One thing puzzled me… VAR.. Why was it not used for the first goal, I feel there was enough there to justify using VAR.

    At the time of the first goal I believed it was a goal and even when they replayed the incident at first I still thought it was a goal but when they later showed close up replays of the incident it put some doubts in my mind….. Why, because from one camera angle Aguero is clearly looking at Mustafi and had no intention of playing the ball and in a second camera angle Aguero pushes his elbow /shoulder into the small of Mustafi’s back… Now, if VAR was used they would have taken both of those camera angles into consideration and I have always thought, rightfully, that that if a player was looking at the man and not playing the ball then it would be deemed foul play…. Maybe mustafi should have thrown himself to the floor to get the decision.

    This is not an anti arsenal conspiracy theory but VAR should have been used…

    Gary Neville was too busy slagging off Arsenal through the entire game to give an accurate assessment of any incident that happened on the pitch… I had to turn the volume down for the last 70 minutes of the game as his co commentary was pathetic.

    Of course, mustafi’s positioning was awful from the goal kick but that should not be taken into consideration as to whether Aguero played the man or not.

    If anyone has any doubts about what I am saying, I suggest you have a look at those camera angles.

    As for the 2nd goal being disallowed for offside I think you it was a perfectly good goal.

    What’s the point of having VAR if they won’t use it for debatable decisions that leads to a goal.

  22. Leedsgunner

    Maybe City will have mercy on us this next week and let us win this coming week.

    Wenger and his cabbages will celebrate like they won a trophy– you know like when we we celebrated coming in 4th a few seasons back. We can’t even do that now…

  23. Bamford10

    Pierre

    It was used for the first goal. It was used throughout. They judged it not to be a foul, because it wasn’t.

  24. TitsMcGee

    Maybe City will have mercy on us this next week and let us win this coming week.”

    I said weeks ago we’ll lose the cup final but win the EPL fixture.

    I still stand by that. It’s the Wenger way and he’ll come out and wax lyrical about how his team has quality and the victory shows it.

  25. Bamford10

    At the end of the match, Wenger asked the fourth official why he wasn’t giving more stoppage time. The fourth official replied: “why would you want more time?”

    Wenger is a laughing stock, and he has turned Arsenal into a laughing stock.

  26. Bamford10

    McGee

    Maybe in the old days, but I don’t see us even getting a “bounce back” result. I do hope we play better, though.

  27. David Smith

    I don’t know why anyone is slagging off the players, they are doing our bidding.
    I am sure, like myself, there are many people on here who have played the game to various levels, and is apparent that they are not playing for him.
    The players want him out.
    They don’t hate him, they might even be fond of him, but they sure as hell don’t respect him, , nor I would imagine his little relationship with Kroenke which is stifling careers.
    Once this parasite has gone, some of these players will fly.
    Blaming mustaphi for what happened today would be like blaming Andy Murray for losing to federer if he hadn’t practiced tennis for two years. Our defenders clearly get no drilling at all, nor do they have the initiative or leadership to be self managed like defenders past.
    The players, the English board, most of the fans, quite possibly Josh Kronke want him out, what are you waiting for Stan?

  28. Dissenter

    Wenger is a big pile of turd
    Everyone in football knows that, it’s only Wenger devotees that still think he has anything left in the bag.
    People in football have been whispering all these stuff for years, now it’s in the open. No fourth official would have said anything like that to him in 2010.
    He’s just on a 10 million a year vacation at Arsenal, making it up as he goes along.

  29. Dissenter

    David Smith
    How can the players want him out when he’s made their lives so easy?
    The players want Wenger to stay. Who doesn’t like top work in a. pressure-free zone earning mega bucks for doing nada.

  30. TitsMcGee

    Yea I don’t buy that the players want him out. The players want him to stay bease he’s their meal ticket.

    Ridiculous wages. Check.
    No expectations. Check.
    Country club atmosphere . Check.
    No accountability. Check.

    All they have to do is STFU and keep what happens in Colney in Colney and they are on easy street.

    A managerial change and their whole paid vacation comes crumbling down.

    Deep down the probably don’t respect him but they don’t dare risk voicing that and losing Shangri-la.

  31. Frankie Coffeecakes

    @Pierre – “This is not an anti arsenal conspiracy theory”

    Its always an Anti-Arsenal conspiracy theory with you and your like, Pierre. When are you going to realize it and finally just say it – under Arsene Wenger and because of Arsene Wenger, Arsenal FC are as clueless as they are horrible.

    Seriously, why do you and your ilk always try to make excuses for abject failure? Snap out of it already!!!

  32. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Even the officials are having at laugh at Wenger’s expense these days. The old goat is so out of touch with the irony of the comment made regarding added time that you know Wenger brought it up because he wants that official punished for being, in his opinion, unprofessional.

    What the idiot Wenger fails to recognize nor realize is that the fourth official was simply trying to save Wenger from himself.

  33. TitsMcGee

    Two problems with the Mustafi thing.

    1. It’s not a foul by any stretch of the imagination. It was a slight tap.

    2. By holding his arms up he allowed Aguero to gain 5 yards on him.

    Quintessential Arsenal- under- Arsene defending.

  34. TitsMcGee

    Even the officials are having at laugh at Wenger’s expense these days. The old goat is so out of touch with the irony of the comment made regarding added time that you know Wenger brought it up because he wants that official punished for being, in his opinion, unprofessional. What the idiot Wenger fails to recognize nor realize is that the fourth official was simply trying to save Wenger from himself.”

    I didn’t think of it that way but it does make sense. Why would he take the piss out of himself.

    Lol

  35. post rocky dave

    Yet another bad loss. The farce continues. Wenger should’ve been sacked in 2010 so it’s just mind-blowing that he stays in the job.

  36. Frankie Coffeecakes

    This much i know, this is not the Arsenal Football Club that i have known and grown up with. None of those players today are worthy of wearing the shirt. I dont know who these imposters are, but i want my AFC back!

    Wenger Out!!!

  37. Bay Area gooner

    Guess what we have at best average players and low and behold we are a mid table team now. No one showed up today! There was no one good on the field. We lose all the time due to lack of planing tactics and defensive prep. We knew city would come at us but did we have any game plan ya all today? Period?!!
    That is on one person wenger
    Our enemies even feel for us now. They pity us. It’s like somewhere deep down they also are disappointed at how a great rival has been taken hostage
    Wenger out. Who had the balls to sack him no pun intended

  38. azed

    “Why, because from one camera angle Aguero is clearly looking at Mustafi and had no intention of playing the ball and in a second camera angle Aguero pushes his elbow /shoulder into the small of Mustafi’s back… ”

    Pierre,
    It was not a foul, football is a contact sport which means contact is allowed. Mustafi was out of position and Aguero like any other person who’s played football or basketball at a decent level did the smart thing: Stand your ground.

    Mustafi had no idea were the person he was supposed to be marking was and that’s down right awful.

    There’s a reason why players like Giroud are called “battering rams” and it’s situations like this they earned that name.

  39. Rambo Ramsey

    The only thing Wenger has improved is the speed at which players decline after joining Arsenal.

    Credit: Guardian comments section

  40. follow the money

    If Arsenal want to not get slagged off by pundits on TV, they should play their hearts out and make it impossible to do that without looking like a fool. Anyone else notice how as the number of good teams in the playoffs has grown we have fallen down the table. The only reason wenger won the league at all ever is because there was only us and Man UTD, and wenger had the best generation of France players to recruit. 1998-2004 there was only a “top 2″ and most often we were 2nd. As soon as that expanded to “top 4″ most often we were 3rd or 4th. Now that there are 6-7 good teams we are 6th and will probably end up 7th. Wenger has never overachieved, not even in the early years. A good manager would have gotten us 4 PL titles in those first six years. Wenger’s never been a good manager. That’s all just a carefully crafted myth

  41. Moray

    Your absolutely right. Like a slowly drowning man, Wenger’s been treading water for a good decade now. The team’s not discernibly weaker or more shaky than it’s been for years, the squad is still dangerously uneven and jammed with underperforming and undermotivated players. It’s just that the football played is now shambolic and the financial outlay greater. And more significantly the competition has grown stronger. While we waste years with a manager with no clue, ambition or self-reflection, perennial underachievers like Spuds and Liverpool have brought in talented managers who have spent pretty well and built squads that are stronger than ours and much better coached. We are not at a financial disadvantage to those teams so that argument is rubbish.

    Other than that,

  42. Moray

    other than that, Wenger’s still peddling the same old emperor’s new clothes, the club is still drinking the “be careful what you wish for” Kool Aid and journos and commentators like Gary Fucking Neville now fail to see the irony in supporting Wenger for so long of his decline and criticising Arsenal supporters for (politely) expressing their disapproval while now talking about how poor the team, the defence has been “for a decade”…

  43. Victorious

    “How Arsenal have kept this leech
    in football is a disgrace…”

    Who would have thought it,Red and I both agree Kroenke the LEECH needs to booted out the club for these utter embarrassment to stop

  44. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Right on cue, like a rat in the shadows comes Victorious. You have about as much shame as Wenger does, none.

  45. thank you and goodnight

    @Follow the money

    Absolutely spot on fella. Not forgetting a legendary defensive mentality and back 4 trained by GG. They used to call old Sven Goran Ericsson a lucky manager. Well Wenger is a French Sven and now his luck well has run dry you are seeing him for what he is and always has been, Average.

  46. Rambo Ramsey

    I honestly think Arsenal could finish lower than seventh. New signings haven’t raised the morale, no cup glory to raise the spirits… So where is the rope to get out of the free fall that the team is currently in?

  47. Ishola70

    Reports that there was in-fighting again between fans after many left after the third Man City goal.

    It’s mind boggling that there are still fans that want to get physical to protect and honour the name of Arsene Wenger. Utterly dumb and unfathomable at this point.

  48. Ishola70

    Rambo Ramsey
    “I honestly think Arsenal could finish lower than seventh. New signings haven’t raised the morale, no cup glory to raise the spirits… So where is the rope to get out of the free fall that the team is currently in?”

    Nah marooned in 6th is what it looks likely to be.

    Teams just below 6th are showing no signs that they can get a real run of points together.

    Marooned in 6th is poor enough.

  49. Victorious

    Words fail me to describe the performance of those bottlers,players were scared shite of city,basically lack stomach for the fight,First half was OK except for City’s questionable goal(Why VAR wasn’t used that moment is dubious to say the least)Club needs an absolute OVERHAUL of both defence and Midfield to stand a chance next season

    A bit misfortune to read some posters pathetic attempt in gloating on such a misfortune day for the club more troubling is their perceived attempt of mockery on a number of posters, shamefully disgusting and embarrassing in equal measures

  50. Ishola70

    The fans that see Wenger as some demi-god and still now want to clump other fans for calling for Wenger out really need to get a reality check.

    Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger is not. Not by a stretch.

    Let it go.

  51. Frankie Coffeecakes

    “A bit misfortune to read some posters pathetic attempt in gloating on such a misfortune day for the club more troubling is their perceived attempt of mockery on a number of posters, shamefully disgusting and embarrassing in equal measures”

    Absolutely hillarious comment coming from one who has made mocking of others on this blog their only intent. As priceless as a tactical game plan from Wenger you are, Victorious. Hypocrite does not even begin to define who you are.

  52. Pierre

    Tony

    VAR was not used for the first goal… The ref deemed it not necessary as said in commentary… ( the big screen was in use for VAR during yesterday’s game)

    There are 2 questions to be asked in this incident
    1)did Aguero have eyes for the man or the ball
    2)did Aguero push the defender in his back with his elbow /shoulder.

    If the answer to the questions are no then no problem a goal should be awarded.

    If the answer to the questions are yes then of course the goal should not stand.

    There should be no interpretation as to what happened, he either had eyes for the ball or didn’t or he played the man or he didn’t.

    Put it like this, if a cross was coming into the box and a forward deliberately plays the man and not the ball as the defender is about to clear it then it would be deemed foul play everytime.

    I am sure that many posters on here disagree with my views but I can’t be arsed to read them…. I call it as I see it.

  53. Ishola70

    As others have said the Milan game now looks like a real banana skin for Arsenal now.

    Milan are getting their act together now and it’s all based on much better defensive performances.

    Excellent result they had in beating Roma away 2-0.

    If they can beat Roma away 2-0 they have nothing really to fear from this current Arsenal especially with certain strikers ineligible or injured.

  54. Pierre

    On to the game…

    One of the most disappointing aspects of the game for me was our inability to play the through ball to Aubameyang.
    There were a number of times within the game that Aubameyang could have been slipped in to be through on goal but each time the midfield took the easy option or delayed the pass too long.
    Özil, xhaka, Ramsey and Wilshere were culpable… A couple of times in the 2nd half the pass to Aubameyang was so simple to split the defence but first xhaka and then özil declined the pass and took the easy sideways action.
    Aubameyang will stop making the runs, as Lacazette did, because the ball is not being delivered.

  55. Frankie Coffeecakes

    @Pierre – “On to the game…”

    Yeah, that was yesterday. What else you got? Aside from more anti-Arsenal conspiracies?

  56. Victorious

    “Absolutely hillarious comment
    coming from one who has made
    mocking of others on this blog
    their only intent. As priceless as a
    tactical game plan from Wenger
    you are, Victorious. Hypocrite does
    not even begin to define who you
    are.”

    Except I post with absolute clarity and rationality, if that somehow translates to mocking others here,then there is an issue somewhere

  57. Mark

    Vic-the-prick, Northern prune perhaps it was just a blip. Let’s forget about it and move on to the next game, get behind the team if you’re a True fan…

    Meanwhile in the real world….

    Wenger f#cking out now !!!!

  58. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Its over, Pierre, Victorious, NorthernGoof. Say what you want, however you want, it matters not any longer. When thousands of people leave yesterdays match early, its not because they are hungry. They left early because they have had enough of Arsenal and its Manager. That display was beyond disappointing, it was disgusting. They gave up!!!

    Whatever, you guys only ever come on here for shits and giggles and to get a rise out of people, but the truth is the truth, Arsenal are in a bad way and if you cant see that and if you cant realize why it is the way it is, then its really your problem. Yesterday laid bare Arsenal for all to see and it was ugly and embarrassing.

  59. TonyD

    “I am sure that many posters on here disagree with my views but I can’t be arsed to read them…. I call it as I see it.”

    The fact that you are posting any questions is ridiculous in the extreme, Pierre.

    Just face we didn’t turn up and were played off the park and will never be good enough to challenge for a title of CL under Wenger.

    I’m just about to sit down and watch the game with my son when he gets home from school who as he said wants to see how bad we played.

    Aguero stood his ground as Mustafi was back peddling with no idea where Agueuro was. Agruero is not obliged to move out the way for the hapless Mustafi’s pathetic positional sense while floundering like a fish out of water.

    Pierre take a good introspective look at yourself because you’re becoming a sad relic like your master at the same time of humiliating yourself on this blog.

    Auba & Mikhi
    I was very clear with my thoughts on these two when we were looking at them.

    That’s all we should have done: look at them and move on.

    Auba is a powder puff playboy who doesn’t have the speed his supposed to have and will never be able to deal with PL defenders as I said several times.

    A total waste of money with much better younger talent out there

    Mikhi
    A complete waste of space unless we are playing lower teams having a really bad day, such as Everton. Jose didn’t get it wrong with him, he’s another who cannot play in the PL.

    The Sven and Raul show needs to really improve with signings. We have wasted £100+million since last summer.

    Josh Kroenke
    Does he really need 3 months to be brought up to speed? The last 2 games should have told him all he needs to know; our 2nd string is beyond poor, and our 1st 11 are not good enough to wear the shirt under Wenger. Probably 75% of them are not fit to be in the 6th richest club in the world.

    Wenger has been conned by Ozil as Stan was conned by Wenger last summer.

    EL
    Absolutely no chance of winning the cup and probably will be unceremoniously dumped out of the competition by a very good looking and well drilled Milan bossed by a very hard and disciplined manager who as a player was as tough and uncompromising as they came.

    Pierre, Victoria and Northern Goon you’d better start saving your pennies to buy the colours of Wenger’s next club I’d say you have about 3 months at the most.

    Might want to learn Chinese while you’re at it.

    Victoria?
    What was you saying about my game prediction? If I was incorrect it was that I stupidly thought we could score a goal. We lost by the 3 goal margin I predicted.

    Once Danny Wellwide was brought on I knew that scoring was not an option.

    Bring on your insults Wenger arse lickers give me something to laugh about today.

  60. Frankie Coffeecakes

    .”Except I post with absolute clarity and rationality, if that somehow translates to mocking others here,then there is an issue somewhere”

    Thats like a prostitute saying they perform felatio with dignity and pride. You honestly are such a clown.

  61. OleGunner

    All you can do is hope and pray that clowns like Pierre, Northern Goon and Victorious are minority fans in the grand scheme of things. Most rational Arsenal fans know we were comprehensively beaten yesterday and no goal scored was unfair against us, we just implode and sleep walk through defeats.

    They are conspiracy theorists, eager to absolve the club and manager of any failings. It’s practically sycophantic.

  62. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    I barely get upset when we lose, couldn’t care less bout the results

    Football will eat itself

    It ain’t football like I remember.

    As Neville said are defence been weak for years but the pretty style of football outweighed the poor defending covering it like sticky plaster.

    Now the pretty football gone what have we left ?

  63. Frankie Coffeecakes

    @TonyD – “Auba is a powder puff playboy who doesn’t have the speed his supposed to have and will never be able to deal with PL defenders as I said several times.”

    He got run down by Vincent Kompany over 40 yards in the first half! Vincent Kompany, he who has had some horrible leg injuries over the last few years. When that happens, you have real problems – and now he’s our problem!

  64. OleGunner

    RSPCA,

    Good point about the pretty football disappearing. I’d argue we have played consistent good football since like 2012/2013.

    Alwyas irks me when fans of other teams claim we play great passing football. Errm no, its been sideways passing for the better part of 5+ years with the once in a blue moon pretty passing move goal.’

    So you right, there’s nothing left to cling to, but its been that way for years now.

  65. Bamford10

    Ignore the trolls, all. Let them talk to the walls. In replying to them or referring to them, you give them a credibility they don’t merit.

  66. Pierre

    Why is Gary Neville a Co commentator… In days gone by we had quality in Andy Gray who was always balanced in his opinions on the match

    Yesterday I was getting texts from friends who supports Liverpool, United and spurs during the game who were amazed at the shit coming from Neville..
    He ruined the game for a lot of people, it was the first time I have ever had to turn the volume down in a game as his criticism was incessant and unwarranted.

    We were one nil down at half time in a fairly even game in which we had the best chance of the first half. That is why it was so unwarranted..

    Because he criticised mustafi so vehemently for the first goal before he had seen the replay he could not backtrack on his comments when he could see the evidence that in fact aguero clearly pushed mustafi in the back… He is there to give a fair and even judgement of events not to spew out endless venom against a team that were one nil down in a cup final to one of the best teams in Europe in a fairly even contest.

    If you Neville thinks Arsenal’s performance was embarrassing then he needs to take a good look at himself.

  67. TonyD

    For those who haven’t read “Romford Pele” by Ray Parlour I thought it was an honest and a simple lad’s account of Parlour’s life and career at The Arsenal.

    He gives good insights of both GG and Wenger and the invincibles.

  68. Victorious

    “What was you saying about my
    game prediction? If I was incorrect
    it was that I stupidly thought we
    could score a goal. We lost by the 3
    goal margin I predicted.”

    Just as I expected,your gonna gloat to high heavens for getting it right just this ONE time,surely when you keep on splashing shit on the wall there’s always a chance it will stick,not genius you are but a f””king clown

  69. thank you and goodnight

    I’m actually thinking of sending Wenger a thank you card. He’s made me so disinterested I No longer have high blood pressure watching us play. Every cloud has a silver lining 😀

  70. Mark

    Vic, you don’t get it for you? Deep down ‘Real’ fans aren’t gloating. Inside we’re hurting , but the posts you see are from frustration at the biggest problem at this club Wenger !

    You have appeared to attack anyone who has criticised Wenger or the club, labelling them constant moaners or not true fans, hence why you & Northern are being called out now.

    Maybe if you allowed other posters to voice their opinions without some kind of verbal reprisal , you won’t be called on it.

    Does that make sense to you?