Observational analysis cost Arsenal £150m

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I remember once as a child, in science class, I called a pal of mine fat in front of a teacher. Mr Smith said,

‘If you were stuck up a mountain, who’d die first? You, because you’re a skinny runt’

‘Well bitch,’ I responded.

‘I’d rather die a painful hypothermic death than look terrible in that Puma shirt I know is coming in 10 years’

I jest, I grew out of football kits by the time I was 11 years old.

Point to my story, never write off a fat kid. You know who learnt that the hard way? Liam Brady. He passed on Harry Kane.

“He was chubby and not very athletic, but we got it wrong.

“Even Tottenham loaned him out to the lower leagues three or four times though.

“But he’s building a great career thanks to his determination and he deserves it.”

What I love about those comments is the sole reasoning for not keeping him on seems to be ‘he was a bit fat.’ No comment on his technical ability, his lack of goals, or his attitude. Just that he was a bit chubby. What sort of analysis is that? I mean, in the moment, when you’re down the Duck and Two Cats with the lads, you’d make those comments for show. But in 2018, when Harry is worth £150m, wouldn’t you rather just make up some nonsense excuse about his fatigue levels? Quite amazing Brady would shower himself in an amateur fat shaming analysis.

Anyway, never write off a chubby kid, they might one day rule the world.

My mate from school? No. He didn’t rule the world. But I tell you one thing, he’d rule you in a drinking session if it stretched longer than 2 days.

In other news, Hector Bellerin reckons Alexis was giving it 100% for Arsenal.

“Alexis is an amazing player. One of the best in the Premier League for sure but he is a player who always wants to win. He demands from everyone, sometimes it can be too much.

“The great thing is he wants to win, to give 100 per cent. This season maybe things weren’t going as well for him but I truly believe he was giving 100 per cent.”

“There was one game against Crystal Palace. We celebrated a goal and some of the players went I stayed back, I was talking to Calum Chambers because there was some tactical stuff.

“For me that was more important than celebrating the goal.”

Can you spot the lie? I mean, pretty clear to me that Bellerin would never be discussing tactics, especially not with Calum Chambers. Anyway, no player is going to come out and slag Alexis off, you just don’t do it. Take the lack of ‘cheerio’ insta posts as the most solid sign that the player wasn’t liked. Also, take it from me, no one was a fan. He was a selfish man, and a bit dim.

Good riddance. I mean, not really. But, you know, like when a girlfriend you love leaves you for SOME SUBSTANDARD HUMAN you’re usually a touch bitter. You always find someone better. Eventually. Right? You do, right?

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  1. Cesc Appeal


    It actually gets to the stage now where it is infuriating in its stupidity.

    An old man’s ego, selfishness and stubbornness is costing the club big time.

    Worse the fix to our problems is so easy because they all centre on him, and he just won’t f**k off or be f****d off.

    Worse pundits etc talk as if we should just put up with Wenger, they all know he is finished but think Arsenal fans should just allow to linger on.

    Wenger will always do something to save himself, and he slithers to Kroenke to escape actually accountability.

    Eventually his luck has to run out though. We have Sanllehi at the club now and no one with a football brain can look at Wenger and his coaches and think Arsenal are heading in the right direction.

    Selfish, stubborn old egotist who I am not going to remember fondly at all, f**k his legacy. His legacy for me is complete lack of self awareness and the kind of stubborn adherence to failed principles that everyone should avoid. Wenger is a great example to everyone of how not to carry on professionally.

  2. Dissenter

    Can you imagine Arsenal being down 2-0 in the first 9 minutes playing Napoli at the Stadio San Paolo in the quarter finals?

    We are out of strikers for the Europa league.
    The round of 16 is on March 8th and March 15.
    We are down to the excellent Danny Welbeck, Laca is out unto the end of March (at least) andAuba is cup-tied .
    Still…some insist Wenger will pull off the Europa leagues. Such is the myth of Wenger.

  3. WengerEagle

    Crazy to think that we are in a totally unique situation with Wenger, literally no other club in all of Europe has been stuck with a manager for so long with no end in sight.

    I actually think that he’s motivated to surpass Fergie’s longevity records because it will be the only thing that he will be able to look back on in his H2H with Fergie and say that he bettered him.

    Which is concerning because he’s still 6 years off achieving that, LOL.

  4. Cesc Appeal


    For some, but for some I think it is dread that Wenger always seems to do something that in the moment looks good but leads to the long term consequence of him latching on for a little longer and draining the life from Arsenal.

    For every season he stays here you can count one or two of massive rebuilding.

    Madrid, Chelsea, Munich will all be looking for managers this summer which will lead to massive movement of managers. Watch us sit on our hands again and stick with the dud then bitch next year that no one is about.

  5. Dissenter

    “Is it really that much of a disaster having welbeck leading the line on Thursday …of course not.”

    Did you really ask the question?
    If the goal is to use a three legged donkey to plough your field…then Danny Welbeck is your man.
    If your goal is to win the one competition that can get the club back in track….then you’re just being a clown for asking the question.

  6. Cesc Appeal


    I actually laugh in the face of anyone who compares Wenger to Fergie.

    Not even close. Fergie was a winner until his very last day and approached United as if his job was on the line every season.

    Wenger is just a pathetic f*****g loser who sets the standard to excuse his failures that he knows are coming. I mean, that is just the height of patheticness and it is disgusting in someone taking £8.5 Million a year.

    What is funny is if Wenger put half as much effort into on field and off field progress and self awareness as he did setting the bar low with excuses and cultivating an environment where his f**k ups are excused he might actually have done better.

    Always say coward is the best word for him.

  7. Dissenter

    The days of Wenger pulling off those rabbits from his hat are long gone.
    We have only Welbeck available for the Europa league until April. Assuming this round of 32 is easy, the round of 16 matches in March won’t be so easy as well.
    ….and we all know that Welbeck’s injury record is dismal.

    Wenger is going to leave in disgrace which is exactly what he deserves.

  8. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘Still…some insist Wenger will pull off the Europa leagues. Such is the myth of Wenger.’

    Bet a lot of people scoffed at the idea we could see off City and Chelsea in Semis and Finals of the Cup last season.

  9. Leftsidesanch

    We do really sound like such a hurt bunch (with reason) of course. If the League Cup final were played at the Emirates, Id give us more of a chance. Our away day woes coupled with Man City’s current form = a disheartening loss for Wenger and his men at the top.

    Our away record this season is so bad that a loss this Thursday in the EL cup isn’t out of the question.

  10. Victorious

    “Wenger is going to leave in
    disgrace which is exactly what he

    A bit over the top,don’t you think?considering he still stands as the most successful manager of the the club to date

  11. Steveyg87

    Thank the good lord we did not face Tottenham last night, make no mistake, we wouldv’e got f**ked up 6 love. Wenger take note what a decent DM can contribute to the team. Hats off to Dembele

  12. Dissenter

    Honestly, you’re a smart dude based in your writings here.
    Do you think a Europa league strike force limited to Welbeck until April can get us to the Quarter finals? We have to negotiate the round of 16 in early March and there are no Lincoln or Sutton caliber clubs around at the round of 16
    We draw a decent team in Europe and we are dumped out.
    Welbeck is as good as a knife without a blade.

  13. Emiratesstroller

    I think that it is crystal clear over past week that Arsenal have fallen far behind
    Spurs when we discuss first team football matters.

    We were outplayed by them on Saturday and the way that the clawed their way back in yesterday’s game against Juventus is a demonstration of the gulf that now exists between the two clubs.

    The reality is that the club is STALE both in management and playing personnel. Life at Arsenal has become too comfortable and the club has made in the
    last decade far too many poor decisions.

    The present malaise is not down just to Wenger. Everyone bar the kitchen
    sink knows that he is past his sell by date and should have been offloaded eight years ago.

    However, the fact that he is still in his job is down to the Major Shareholder and the Board. Collectively they have to take responsibility for the way that
    the club is operating.

    It is now imperative that the club brings in a top class HEAD COACH at end of this season to replace Wenger. Someone who can reenergise the club and
    will also make some very difficult decisions about the current squad.

    My personal view is that the FIRST TEAM is a major rebuild project. Realistically there are only 3-4 players who are good enough to play in a starting eleven. At the moment we have got probably on our books another 10-12 players who are good enough to sit on bench.

    The rest of squad should be offloaded albeit they will probably fetch peanuts
    in transfer market.

    This means that over the next two years the club will need to recruit something like a dozen new players. The question is can the club afford the bill?

    I made the case before Christmas that our current malaise will impact not
    only on sale of season tickets next summer, but also on potential new commercial contracts. Both Emirates Shirt and Puma Equipment contracts are due for renewal in next 12 months.

    Failure to qualify for Champions League for a second year will impact on those
    revenues and the club’s spending power.

    I accept that there is no likelihood of us overtaking the two Manchester clubs in financial stakes, but if we fall behind Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs as well then it will become increasingly difficult for club to recover.

    Kroenke needs to make a very quick and decisive decision this summer and
    that is to reenergise the club. Yes he may have appointed a new Football Director and Senior Scout, but that is not going to solve our problems if the first
    team continues to be coached and play in the fashion that we have seen over
    last two years.

  14. Dissenter

    Bigger managers than Wenger ( with history of European achievement) have left in a huff of shame and disgrace.
    I didn’t say he will be a disgrace. I seats he will LEAVE in disgrace.
    We can delegate the archivist work to the likes of you to remind us of his greatness after he’s been pushed out.

  15. Victorious

    oopsss..might have touched a nerve there,putting up that long-winded epistle to pass your point which still remains, a BUNCH of morons holding placards every now and then at the emirates will do f**k all,

    Tirade should properly be directed to “clueless Kroenke” who alone can effect change in this situation, oh no why not let Us scream “Wenger Out’ all over Legrove like that will make any smidgen of difference

  16. Dissenter

    The press is giving Wenger the respect you reserve for one that you know is on his way out after an earlier stretch of great work.
    It’s like every one knows what to expect from his silly press conferences so they just listen politely even though their story was sent to the editor before he even started uttering his gibberish.
    They are just enjoying the last acts of the Wenger show. They know they will miss it when he’s gone so why muck it up.
    It’s like the near demented emeritus professor showing up at the faculty meeting. Everyone just tries to remain nice because they know he’s no longer relevant.

  17. Leftsidesanch

    and how do you propose they’re directed at Kroenke then Vic? What is it with types of fans such as yourself who feel like you owe Wenger loyalty? Is Wenger loyal to you?

    What I do not understand about fans like yourself, is after years of being sold the future by Wenger, lied to – a selection of fans finally stood up for us and tried to force change via protests. Wenger came out saying this was disrespectful and he will never forgive it and then every single Arsenal fan sang only one Arsene Wenger in Wembley as we beat Chelsea to win the FA Cup whilst Stan was in attendance.

    Yet you solely blame Stan, to me the gutless easily led/pleased Arsenal fans are almost as culpable as he is.

  18. Emiratesstroller

    What I find amusing is that the people who post on Le Grove advocating demonstrations and protests contribute absolutely NOTHING to the debate and the longterm future of the club.

    They are just empty barrels making the most noise. It is precisely the same when you look at the Opposition Front Bench in House of Commons. The
    Labour Party is led by a bunch of left wing ideologists and human rights
    lawyers most of whom have not produced anything in their working lives.

    Arsenal needs to recruit a new Head Coach and then work on rebuilding its
    team. That is not going to be achieved by meaningless protest.

  19. Rambo Ramsey

    Dissenter, there are other players in the team capable of scoring. Europa is like an extended version of CL groupstages. If Arsenal show up–which is becoming rarer by the day I admit–its not beyond the realms of possibility we’ll scrap our way to the final stages.

  20. Leftsidesanch

    Fans voicing their discontent via a systematic campaign to achieve the objective of having a new manager isn’t meaningless. If done on a large scale could assist in putting pressure on the Arsenal hierarchy and help to persuade that Wenger isn’t the man to lead us forward. They certainly have their use.

  21. steve


    “Arsenal reportedly have an ‘exit strategy’ in place that will see Arsene Wenger’s tenure as manager brought to an end in the summer if the Gunners miss out on UEFA Champions League qualification.


    Well let’s hope we miss CL qualification then. And no Mickey mouse cup either. I want Wenger disgraced out of the club.

  22. Dissenter

    I find your view of people agitating or protesting to be condescending, much
    like your views on Usmanov; You’re happy to benefit from what you initially viciously dismissed.
    The protest of the last year helped push the club in a different direction. It strengthened Gazidis hand even though it may not have been enough to push Wenger out. The FA cup threw a curve ball,on that.

  23. alexanderhenry

    I’m starting to question the wisdom of our January transfer window.

    Giroud was decent and gave us something different. Arsenal can do better but to sell him now seems hasty.

    Apparently the club are nervous about not qualifying for the CL. According to reports- leaked I assume- the powers that be are concerned not being in the CL will effect a new kit deal.
    Money as usual seems to be the main preoccupation. There’s nothing about arsenal being in the CL because of a desire to try and win it of course.

    One assumes this concern motivated the Auba transfer, but was it wise to bring in a new striker- inexperienced and unproven in the PL- to spearhead a CL qualification charge at this stage?

    Chelsea on the other hand have landed a useful, very experienced striker who although not a long term solution, may well steady the ship for them.

  24. HighburyLegend

    The 3 main differences between the Spuds and us :

    1 – a competent manager;
    2 – players who are more interested by glory than by money;
    3 – and talented players with BIG BALLS, of course…


  25. Pierre

    ” The days of Wenger pulling off those rabbits from his hat are long gone.”

    I do realise that you have to live up to your name but did not Wenger pull a rabbit out of the hat last May ,8 months ago , would hardly call that “long gone”.

    And I would say he pulled a rabbit out of the hat in January in not losing Sanchez for free and getting ozil to sign a new deal and the signing of aubamayang even if he had outside help from others.

    Personally ,having welbeck come in as our main striker on Europe is fine by me ,he is more than capable….I am just pleased we offloaded giroud for decent money as he would have been leading the line but that’s just my personal opinion .

  26. Dissenter

    I’m glad that it wasn’t Arsenal playing Juventus at the Juventus Allianz stadium.
    At 2-0 down in the ninth minute, the flashbacks of the Bayern mauling would have overcome the ponies we have in our stable.
    It would have been Yugoslavia beating Zaire 9-0 in the 1974 World Cup.

  27. Champagne Charlie


    As far as additions go I tend to agree, though Auba has potential to explode. Basically we’ve opted for Auba over Giroud for the last half of this season. Which when you consider his acclimatisation and the fact he’s cup tied in the Europa League is questionable.

    Pretty sure buying a winger to improve he Iwobi/Theo/Welbz side of the four would’ve been a bigger improvement attack wise.

    More pertinent still it wouldn’t have been that hard to improve our CM options, or defender options.

  28. Dissenter

    Nice try.
    There aren’t Sutton or Lincoln caliber teams in the round of 16 stages of the Europa cup. We will probably beat Ostersund fk in this round. It’s the next round in early March that we I’ll come stuck if we get a decent team, any decent team.

    Aubameyang isn’t relevant because he is Cup-tied. We have only Welbeck available to lead the line in the Europa league.
    I know you rate Welbeck to “shin” the ball in but even you know deep down he’s shite.

  29. UTarse

    12 year old, I guess the shortfall in your intelligence didn’t understand the premise behind my questions.

    Never mind.

  30. alexanderhenry


    In terms of tactics, the window made no sense to me. It smacks of panic buy to me.

    We needed defensive additions and we bought another striker and no.10 type attacking midfielder instead. Also, I agree on the winger.
    Again, we shipped out the ox and walcott- neither of them are true wingers or ideally good enough, but still.

    I’d actually give Reese Nelson a run out.

    The whole season now hinges on Auba hitting the ground running or possibly a late showing from Wellbeck .

    This could happen but it’s a gamble.

  31. Bamford10


    I understand your frustration, but I really think Wenger is gone this summer. We aren’t going to finish top four, we aren’t going to win the Europa, and there is nothing in our play this season to suggest Wenger can get us back to where we need to be. If that report is correct and it will no longer be about “sentiment,” he’s done. IMO.

  32. Bamford10


    Let’s discuss that wager again on the day before the return leg. I’m probably up for it, but I want to know a little more about who will be playing for Juventus and why certain players weren’t playing last night. I’m probably up for it, though. The blog will miss your commentary. 😉

  33. Cesc Appeal

    The protests quite clearly helped.

    Arsenal need to be shaken into doing something and they were to an extent.

    If you sit back the club will quite happily carry on as it is.

    The fans gave Gazidis some power to bring in Mislintat and Sanllehi.

    I find the thing of disliking protests weird, so you are happy to sit back and just wait for Wenger to leave? Then you are part of the fanbase that cultivates the environment we have suffered for too long at Arsenal.

    Stand up for your club, that is what protesters are doing and those that have called for change for years. It is not disgracing your club it is actually recognising that Arsenal is so much more than it currently is and deserves a lot more than it is currently getting. How can you be opposed to that unless you are an idiot that sees Wenger as the club.

  34. WengerEagle


    In isolation, Auba for Giroud is a significant improvement, no question.

    As you say though what good is it when we’re still forced to play the dreadful Iwobi and Xhaka and Elneny in CM.

    Plenty of good wide players and CM’s available, no excuses for this piss poor side we’re stuck with.

  35. UTarse

    How do you define contribute NOTHING ? If you are saying that your contribution is we need to hire a new Manager / Coach first and foremost , how different is that from fans who are protesting to achieve exactly that result ? You contradict yourself.

    Let me get it straight, you are worthy by opining that Arsenal need a new coach and rebuild its team on this blog but fans calling for protest to remove Wenger are not ?

  36. WengerEagle

    Still baffles me why people won’t simply boycott games, the whole ST waiting list cop-out simply doesn’t wash with me, you’re part of the problem if you’re not actively trying to address it in ways that are within your power/means.

    Easiest form of non-violent protest, will get tonnes of media coverage and sends a clear message.

  37. Bamford10


    You keep making the same point over and over again, without responding to some obvious questions. Are you saying we would have been better off signing a Johnny Evans and moving forward with Lacazette and Giroud as our only CFs? Given that Lacazette is out for months now — and given that Wenger has indicated we might have known about a long-standing knee issue of his — are you saying we would have been better off moving forward with Giroud and Welbeck?

    I agree that keeping Giroud might have been smart — though I’ve never been a fan of his — I don’t see how signing a Johnny Evans would have been better than signing Aubameyang.

    Please explain this to all of us.

  38. UTarse

    “I understand your frustration, but I really think Wenger is gone this summer.”

    What if we win the coconut cup ?

  39. WengerEagle

    And it’s hilarious seeing the same old heads on AFTV bellowing from the rafters about getting Wenger out of the club and demanding change, whinging about seasons repeating themselves yet distance themselves from boycotting or bringing about actual change due to their ‘love’ for the club being ‘too strong’.

    Bollocks to that, should be all about what is good for the long-term health of the club.

  40. Cesc Appeal


    I think the protests did well last year.

    The problem is Wenger’s new deal just seems to have knocked it out of everyone, not blaming them because I remember how totally deflated I was when it went through. As if Arsenal had turned their back on being a sports club.

    The thing is, the people who endlessly moan but then are happy to just sit and wait for Wenger to suddenly grow a conscience and some self awareness are worthless.

    I’m not saying protest but you can be part of a fan base that starts to reverse this trend of just allowing Wenger to do whatever by what you say and do online, what you say and do in the ground, whether you buy merchandise or tickets, if you’re a season ticket holder I get it is more difficult and I am not one of those who talks about season ticket holders giving them up.

  41. alexanderhenry


    It didn’t have to be Jonny Evans. There are plenty of other CBs out there.
    For the price of Auba, we could have a signed a better defender than Evans plus probably a new DM.

    Also, I’m questioning the wisdom of signing Auba at this stage of the season- if CL qualification was the motivating factor.

    It might work out but it’s a risk.

  42. Bamford10

    The protests definitely helped. No question. On top of this, people here or elsewhere who deride the protests and protesters are cunts of the highest order. Also no question.

    However, while I previously believed protest was necessary, I now don’t think it is. I think the club is seriously reviewing Wenger’s future, and I think we will move on this summer because he is no longer capable of earning us a place in the CL and this costs us money and prestige (which is money in the end as well). Fans need to continue to express en masse that they want change, but this can be done in a quieter way than protest. One of the protest organizers has created a “time for change” pin that can be worn on game days. If thousands of supporters wear these, we can continue to let the board know that it is time to move on.


  43. alexanderhenry


    I think fans are waiting to see what happens. If we finish sixth and don’t win the Europa, and then the club do and say nothing, there’ll be protests.

  44. Victorious

    Do I have to spoonfed it to you that Protest is meaningless in the grand scheme of things most especially at a big club such as Arsenal,where the tickets and merchandize will surely sell because of tourists who are on cue to always buy out

    You sit there mouthing off about protest all day without you moving on your ass to do something yourself,f**k off

  45. Dissenter

    We kept Webeck and sold Giroud.
    I mean the money was good and his exit set of the cascade of moves they brought Auba but damn we kept Welbeck.

    Do defenders fear Welbeck?
    He gives them a good cardio workout but that’s about it.

  46. Cesc Appeal


    Fingers crossed.

    But the sentiment in the fan base just feels like Wenger is slowly beating the life out of this club.

    No one really gets excited by a win anymore, equally no one really gets mad when we lose anymore.

    People almost just shrug as if it is expected and we have to live with it.

    I’ve never seen a situation where the problem is so obvious and yet no one will do anything about it for reasons that are totally illogical.

  47. UTarse

    “I think fans are waiting to see what happens.”

    That’s just it, haven’t we waited long enough ? Apparently not for your typical Arsenal fan. FFS it’s been 10 years since we mounted a serious challenge for the title. Add to that the decline over those 10 years and still the fans are waiting ? What for ? the messiah ? Wenger is a curse on our football club.

  48. Bamford10


    OK, I too would like a new CB and new CDM. In the least. However, not signing a CF would have meant playing January through May with Lacazette, Giroud and Welbeck. Lacazette had a knee issue and is now out, so it actually would have meant proceeding with Giroud and Welbeck.

    I’d rather play the second half of the season with Koscielny and Mustafi as my starting CBs than play it with Giroud and Welbeck as my CF options.

    And for the record, while we need a CB, I would sign a good CDM before I signed a CB.

    Also for the record, we need to discuss what the club knew about Lacazette’s knee issue and when they knew it.

  49. Danish Gooner

    Typical Arsenal trying to win an elite competition with sub standard strikers like welbeck,dear God Ostersund could be the end of our Europa League participation for this year.

  50. HighburyLegend

    “But the sentiment in the fan base just feels like Wenger is slowly beating the life out of this club.”

    The sentiment is that most of the fan base don’t care about kim jong slowly killing the club.

  51. Emiratesstroller


    First of all I believe that Wenger has been in last chance saloon this season and rather like Pedro I believe that he will be gone this summer if we fail to qualify for Champions League. That is feedback I have received also from people who have got inside information about what is going on at club.

    The fact that the team are losing so many games against the likes of Stoke,
    Watford, Bournemouth, Swansea and Nottingham Forest plus the fashion in
    which we have lost this season to Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd and Spurs sends out a clear message that there needs to be a change.

    The major shareholder and board will have seen this without a protest.

    My views on Usmanov are based on what I know about the man from people
    who have been involved with him both in sport and business. This is not just
    one or two people. He is frankly not someone that I want to see own the club
    even if he was willing to throw a billion pounds on buying players.

    Usmanov is a very different character to Abromavich at Chelsea.

  52. alexanderhenry

    Regarding protests:

    They do work.
    It’s very bad PR which in this day and stage all big companies fear.
    It’s embarrassing, it effects the brand, it impacts on commercial revenue and it upsets sponsors. Remember the reaction to Kroenke’s blood sports channel?

    Also, Arsenal always come across as very confident that STs will always be renewed- I’m not the buying the validity of the 10 year ST waiting list- but the truth is that they fear losing regular, paying customers as any business does.

  53. Bamford10


    Sorry, but you’re wrong. The protests were a massive public image problem for the club. Commercial deals are based on your brand’s image and reach. Arsenal sliding out of Europe’s elite was bad enough in this respect; that there were “Wenger Out” planes flying over the stadium was equally problematic.

    The protests had an effect. Thank God. That’s why change is occurring.

  54. Danish Gooner

    Auba cup tied and Alex injured and we are left with a man so fragile a wind in the wrong direction will cripple him,imagine us facing Atletico with no discernible striker what a shambles.

  55. Danish Gooner

    Seriously why the fuck did we have to sell Giroud,so we couldnt afford to get auba if we didnt get rid of Giroud,it makes no sense whatsoever.

  56. WengerEagle


    He’s simply surviving on his reputation, that’s all he’s had for over a decade now.

    Nostalgic Arsenal fans and over-generous pundits such as Neville, etc are all factors in keeping him in a job.

    The FA Cup wins came at perfect times too just when his position looked close to untenable, especially the 1st win in 2014.

    We were fundamentally promised progress as a football club when we moved to the Emirates Stadium in 2006, he was bought time then because of the so-called Austerity period in the subsequent half dozen years afterwards (some truth to this for sure, over-exaggerated in equal mesaure and he recruited poorly post 2008 for definite).

    Even the ardent Wenger supporters concede that we have had ample money to spend for half a decade now, and if you look at the club in 2018 we have gone backwards season after season after spending quite a bit of money.

    Look at the club in 2006 upon moving to the ES and look at us 12 almost 12 years later, are we any better off?

    Clearly not, and guess what? Only one constant during that timeframe personnel wise, and that ain’t Feo anymore, LOL.

  57. alexanderhenry


    It was a big judgement call and in part down to the idiotic mishandling of the Alexis contract if you go back far enough.

    Striker instead of defender to get top four? I’m not sure. Time will tell.

  58. Bamford10


    Again, you’re not dealing with the specifics, though. You’re speaking in generalities. Forget it. You’re a little hopeless.

  59. Bamford10


    I remain a little unclear on why we sold Giroud, but I don’t think it was because we needed those proceeds for Aubameyang. We didn’t even make that much money from the Giroud sale.

  60. Dissenter

    Last years protest only fell short because we got friendly FA cup draws against shitty clubs like Sutton and Lincoln at the height of the slump.
    They created a branding problen for the club and most likely strengthened Gazidis hands
    I enjoyed watching Wenger wilt in the press conferences. I delighted in seeing him become defensive and show his arrogance and petulance when asked about the need for a DoF
    We have exactly the set up we all wished for now despite Wenger’s protestations. He’s not in th driver’s seat anymore because he whines about not getting enough like every other manager who’s not responsible for transfers.
    The protests also showed that there are gooners who are happy to run intricate interference for Wenger all day long without any shame.
    The FA cup saved Wenger.

  61. S Asoa

    All the talk of chinks of light of Wenger being eased out this summer has again filled me with expectations.

    Oooosh Ooosh

    is the shout to drive away pigs . Could we have this each time Wenger rises from his seat ?
    Maybe might drive this greedy pig out too !

  62. Ishola70

    “I’m not sure what style of football ostersunds play but if it is similar to our teams in the bottom half of the prem then we could struggle .”

    They will play like a good standard Championship side. It will be like an English FA Cup tie. They will play English traditional style. They will be physical. They have quite a few Africans in their team.

    Wenger can’t afford to play a real under strength team here. The least he should do is mix and match with some first teamers in there.

    If he goes too under strength in the game a defeat will not be a really great surprise.

  63. Dissenter

    “We didn’t even make that much money from the Giroud sale”

    Actually we made enough money for the 31 year old player we bought for 11 million in 2012. We sold him for 18 million I believe.

  64. WengerEagle

    Na I think the main reason Giroud was sold was because it’s a World Cup year and he was told by Deschamps that he has to be playing.

    Combine that with Chelsea needing a CF (reaching out to 37 year old Peter Crouch, lol), Chelsea being a handy move for him from a personal life standpoint due to it being in just down the road and us signing Aubameyang which essentially was bumping Giroud down to 3rd choice, it made perfect sense.

    Getting £20 million for him at age 31 wasn’t bad business either you have to say.

  65. alexanderhenry


    ..and you’re more than a little rude which is why I ignore you.

    Anyway, to make my point clear on this occasion: All I’m suggesting is that I think we would have been bettor off buying defensive players in this window, especially as we sacrificed Giroud.

    You seem to think the only defender currently playing in world football who is available is Jonny Evans.

  66. HighburyLegend

    Perhaps Bamford thinks that Evans is the only defender whom might interest kim jon ??
    To be honest that’s what I also thinks…

  67. alexanderhenry


    Yes, it was a surprisingly good deal for both clubs.

    Arsenal got their priorities right- cashing in.

    Chelsea got their priorities right- getting a stop gap striker who can do a job for them until the end of the season.

  68. Dissenter

    Victorious doesn’t understand the principle of brand management.
    The Wenger out campaign was a low cost, high tech approach that gained traction. It acquired relative viral status.
    All that was needed was a “Wenger out” on a piece of paper, show up at ANY live event , capture the poster with a cell phone camera and viola…another addition was added.
    In a marketing sense it was very effective. It forced the club into a defensive posture and drove the dictator nuts.
    He was so bitter he didn’t go on the congratulatory lap with the players on the last home game. He has the FA cup and a silly majority share holder to thank for still being around.

  69. David Smith

    The club are preparing for change, and someone is putting pressure on wenger in a leaky way.
    This is no accident, they know he will not qualify for the ECL, and so are putting things in place around him when that inevitable comes to pass.
    You can tell by looking at him what wenger thinks of it all. I suspect things may get even worse before they get better come June

  70. Bamford10


    That’s a separate question (11 vs. 18). Danish was suggesting we needed that money to cover the Auba cost. I’m saying we sold Giroud for other reasons.

  71. HighburyLegend

    “The club are preparing for change, and someone is putting pressure on wenger in a leaky way.”

    Ah ah ah, you’ve made my day.
    Let’s (re)talk about that after we’ll lift the Carambarao Cup.

  72. Marko

    Juventus will beat Spurs in the return leg and all of this silly talk will cease.

    Their home record is pretty decent these days. I think you might end up being wrong on this one.

  73. Marko

    Anyone talking up Welbeck has to remember he’s a striker who hasn’t scored in the league since September. He is absolutely average as a striker. Depending on him in the Europa League is foolish

  74. HighburyLegend

    @Left : you dangerously underestimate the luck of kim jong when it comes to save his ass…
    (and trust me, this time he will know how to motivate the players lol)

  75. Champagne Charlie


    Yea beyond this season Auba wipe the floor with Giroud, but the second Alf of this one as he adapts and is ineligible for Europe you have to wonder where the value is.

    All I’d state is that prior to Jan I was content with Lacazette and Giroud as our CF options. Would have sooner supported them further with a Mahrez/Malcom type > Iwobi/Welbz wide. Or an N’zonzi in place of Coquelin in the squad.

  76. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    Pedro was one of those who didn’t like the protests as it wasn’t classy. Like sitting back and watching your club deteriorate is classy.
    Arsenal, Pedro and those values!

  77. alexanderhenry

    David Smith

    Yes, they are. If the club have accepted that this season is a write off, that would actually explain the Auba signing.

  78. Marko

    Yeah I’m going to have to agree with Alexander on this one. Should have signed Auba in the summer but when you consider in January we bought a 28/29 year old striker for 55 million while a 23 year old highly rated defender in Laporte moved for 57 million it made more sense to buy the defender. We could have signed Laporte and built the defence around him for years to come while with Auba you’re talking about 3-4 years max.

    Also the protests absolutely worked. The club acknowledged them and Wenger got visibly upset when talking about them last season.

  79. Pierre

    “No one really gets excited by a win anymore, equally no one really gets mad when we lose anymore.”

    You should have been in my house when we beat Chelsea in the FA cup final if you don’t think fans get excited by a win .
    Was full of gooners Young and old ,the place went berserk .

    But I do get your point in the run of the mill games.

    It’s pretty easy to understand why the excitement and disappointment levels have deteriorated and this season it’s the same for all teams except man city and teams threatened by relegation…To create excitement and disappointment you need to be challenging for the title or a trophy or fighting relegation , a champions league spot does not create enough excitement and sadly we haven’t seriously challenged for the title for too long ,normally it would be around Feb /March when it dawns on the fans that it’s over but this year has been worse than ever .

    If and its a big if we did challenge for the title ,the excitement would quickly return whoever is the manager.

  80. Emiratesstroller

    The issue is not whether demonstrations are classy, but whether they are effective.. A dozen people turning up outside a stadium is hardly sending out a message of mass discontent.

    What will decide the future of the club will be the balance sheet and the performance of the team. On both count the club is failing this season.

    Let’s summarise:

    1. The team has performed poorly particularly in away games.
    2. Over last two seasons there is growing evidence of apathy resulting in empty seats.
    3. The club has been forced to reduce ticket prices and if that translates also
    in reduction on renewal of season tickets then the club will not be able to conceal the reality in drop in attendances.
    4. The club will be faced in next two years in finding new shirt and equipment sponsors. Failure to improve performance and qualify for Champions League
    is likely to impact on size of package.
    5. Arsenal have until now been able to argue that they are a top four level club
    in EPL and therefore qualifying for CL. Failure to do so in a second consecutive
    season will raise serious questions about our future status and attraction to top class players, which we are trying to recruit.

  81. graham62

    @Victorious @Ughe @Pierre

    Just to make things perfectly clear, I HATE SPURS!….and have done since 1968.

    However, I do appreciate good football when I see it and irrespective of my loathing of THFC, they are playing some fantastic football at present.

    @Victorious, mocking the Italian League and Juve as an outfit is very immature, as Arsenal will find out IF they progress in the EL and draw Napoli, Lazio or Atalanta.

    Juve were made to look second best for long periods, not because they are substandard, but because Spurs ran them ragged.

    Yes, Juve should have gone in at half-time 3-1 to the good, but the fact of the matter is that Spurs played some great stuff and looked the real deal.

    @Pierre look at the stats(I know you love them). Tottenham absolutely steamrollered the Italians and in their own backyard.

    Juve may go to Wembley and win(can’t see it myself) but based on last nights performance, there won’t be any team wanting to draw Tottenham if they should progress, and I mean ANY TEAM!

    By the way, although they probably wouldn’t admit it, I know that the vast majority of Spuds supporters have sat back and admired our brand of football over the years. So now that the shoe is on the other foot, grow some balls, just accept it and stop believing we are something we are not.


  82. HighburyLegend

    “@Victorious @Ughe @Pierre”

    Adds alexander + Don + CC and you got the Monty Pythons!!
    (a much less funnier version, of course)

  83. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘Juve may go to Wembley and win(can’t see it myself) but based on last nights performance, there won’t be any team wanting to draw Tottenham if they should progress, and I mean ANY TEAM!’

    Yeah, Barca Bayern Madrid et al will be quaking in their boots after witnessing Spuds get a draw at Turin.

    They’ll be praying to the almighty to face one another rather than come up against the mighty non conquering Spud army.

  84. Pierre

    I pointed out last night that Spurs are starting to worry me…the way they beat man Utd and Arsenal recently and then last nights performance in Europe is evidence of their improvement and belief in themselves .
    If they are to seriously challenge for champions league they need to keep dembele and Kane fit ,the rest are expendable ….

  85. Pierre

    Leg end
    They Can’t be less funnier than you ,as you are……………………..not funny

    It doesn’t matter how many lols you put on the end ,you will always be …………not funny

  86. graham62

    I know there are Gooners on here who have been to far more North london derbies than myself.

    My running count, upto 2012, was 23 League/Cup games. 17 at Highbury/Emirates and 6 at White Hart Lane. Unfortunately, never got to the Wembley semis in 91 and 93 and missed out on the 2001 game at Old Trafford. Feb 16th 1974 being my first game (0-1 loss) at Highbury.

    I’m proud of this number and could have added a few more to the list if it hadn’t been for the fact that I was working overseas for 16 years and stopped going to games 5 years back.


  87. UTarse

    You don’t need to justify yourself to any true fan who understands your perspective…. I think you are trying to placate your own guilt of saying complimentary things about the scum. :-)

  88. graham62


    You are a plonker.

    If Arsenal had done what Spurs had done last night, you would be coming on here bragging because Arsenal were now a serious threat in the CL.

    @Pierre is right(Jesus, did I just say that?).They need to “keep Kane and Dembele fit” if they are to stand a chance.

    Grow up and admit Spurs look good.

  89. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘If Arsenal had done what Spurs had done last night, you would be coming on here bragging because Arsenal were now a serious threat in the CL.’

    Do what? Play a game in round of 16, embarrass ourselves conceding early and then put up a great fight? I’ve seen that movie a plenty.

    Anyway, the Spud cocks aren’t gonna suck themselves. Alli’s probably got his pants down already so get down and get working.

    Or maybe wait until they’ve actually progressed to the next round before anointing them one of the most feared teams of Europe.

    Fucking clown.

  90. Pierre

    I was at a league cup semi final 2nd leg in 1968 I think it was…at White Hart lane , evening game , I was 13 years old .Jimmy greaves had scored to level the tie and then in the last few minutes John Radford met a corner at the near post and powered it into the net , I was at the front and the Arsenal fans at the park lane end went mad …..2 /3years later we were on the pitch celebrating winning the title at White hart lane …great days growing up watching The Arsenal….

  91. Bamford10


    “Yeah, Barca Bayern Madrid et al will be quaking in their boots after witnessing Spuds get a draw at Turin.”

    Glad you said this, as I was thinking the same thing. Some people are getting way carried away with what Spurs did last night.

    No top team is all that worried about them.

  92. Mark

    @Cesc appeal
    ” it is actually recognising that Arsenal is so much more than it currently is and deserves a lot more than it is currently getting. How can you be opposed to that unless you are an idiot that sees Wenger as the club.”

    If only Muppets like Vic-the-prick could get this.

    Why he tries so hard to convince us that protest or posting our dissatisfaction with Wenger is pointless, beggars belief.

    What a prick ! Fuck off to untold if the tone of the blog upsets you.
    I really hope Wenger goes, cos I can guarantee only mugs like Vic-the-prick will keep bringing him up once we have a new manager. We’ll see who the real Wenger obsessives are.

    Vicuntious, WENGERISFINISHED !!!