Wenger liberal with extent of his incompetence

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I’ve been dropping so many positive bombs on you the last few days, I actually have people on Twitter trying to convince me Wenger is a bad manager.

KNOW YOUR HISTORY.

Anyway, bit of a Wenger rant incoming.

I absolutely detest the way he manipulates the truth to suit his survivalist instincts. Nothing is ever his fault. He always falls back on this ‘I’m a pretty classy guy’ angle, and fans always fall for it.

Let’s crack into his latest reimagining of history.

“I cannot understand anybody wanting to leave Arsenal”

“But in 30 years of doing transfers, you learn a lot about human beings. As a professional, it was perhaps his last contract at the top level and an important contract.”

This is Wenger setting the stage. He’s telling you he’s been around for a while, back when footballers were paid with eggs and bread., and it’s not the same. He’s also trying to sell Arsenal as a dream in itself, bypassing the realities of why players don’t want to be here despite us having all the necessary ingredients a modern player needs (excellent pay, location, sell-out stadium).

“We did what we tried to do and went as far as we could (with money). Even Manchester City moved out of it in the end. That tells you we had no chance to give him a contract.”

This is where he’s playing games.

True, Arsenal are unable to pay Alexis £400k a week. I’m not sure we’re that sort of club, and I’m not sure we want to be. However, the problem Arsenal ran into didn’t stem from Alexis wanting £400k a week. They came from Wenger and Gazidis not pulling the trigger on deals in 2015.

If you remember, we’d beaten Villa in the cup final and all the talk that summer was about record deals for our two star men. The agents were going big, the talk moved to £200k a week, at the time, the money seemed wild, but reality was any CEO worth his salt could see where wages were going with the new TV deal. Worth noting as well, that summer, we put Theo on a £140k a week deal. It was clear what it’d take to get proper players to sign on.

The subplot here is that, as you all know, Wenger needs to be the highest paid man at the club. £200k a week was higher than his £140k a week. We didn’t tie our best players down to long deals when sentiment around the club was great because of Wenger’s ego and Ivan’ meekness in overruling him.

Wenger went on to fuck up the summer of 2015, signing only Petr Cech. By 2016, money started to flood the game, the players could see where their mates’ salaries were going, then by the time no deal had been done by December, and the team were failing, it was clear how things were going to pan out.

The absolute joke of it all is this… Wenger oversaw a terrible season and was given a new deal adn a pay bump. To what number? £10m a year, which is £192k a week. The number we had been trying to tie Ozil and Sanchez down to since last summer. The club basically forfeited the ability to sell Alexis for £90m because of ego, or a total lack of planning. I’m putting my money on ego.

Hopefully, Sanllehi, Sven and Huss Fahmy are in a position to put this nonsense to bed once and for all. Wenger isn’t worth £10m and his ego shouldn’t guide our contract planning approach or our transfer strategy. The new team is off to a good start, if we end the window with a defender, Aubameyang and Mikki, we’re in good shape.

Before the Armenian was misused at United, he was a really great player. He has a touch of the Cazorla’s about his game. He’s a hard worker, maybe not industrious enough for Jose, but more than enough for Tuchel and Klopp. If we can spark his confidence, I think we could have good run in for the rest of the season.

My guess is the club are gambling on those two taking us to Europa League glory. Most likely our best chance for Champions League qualification. 5-8 points off Liverpool seems a bit of an ask considering the poor shape our team is in at the moment.

UPDATE: Mikki is not cup tied. Aubameyang is.

Still, you never know.

I mean, you likely do. I’m not sure Wenger’s magic final season push is still there. But at least if we have players that want to go for it, we have a better chance. Seriously, Mikki, Auba, Ramsey, Ozil and Lacazette could be pretty exciting.

Right, that’s me done.

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  1. 1886not1996

    Dolomite

    So you’re saying he would basically be replacing Sanchez’s goals? Not adding anything.

    And you think he will just hit the ground running.

  2. Dolomite

    Its true Arsenal fans have extreme PTSD

    So because were not in a bidding war for a player that WILL ENHANCE OUR TEAM
    it automatically means hes rubbish?

    The scars are DEEP…..!

  3. Marko

    Paulinho I’m literally not going to bother wasting my time debating with anyone who thinks Aubameyang is like Gervinho. I’d be fighting a losing battle it’s stupid

  4. Cart

    So Mkhitaryan is now official. From a business perspective, Utd have got the better end of the deal. I don’t think anyone can argue that. Far superior player, who is only a year older.

    However, I think the reason it’s a straight swap is probably due to the fact that Utd have swallowed the financial aspect of thing. The pay-off to Mkhitaryan and the outrageous fee to Raiola.

    We’ll probably find out the finer detail in the next episode of Football Wikileaks. My guess is that it’ll look a bit like this:

    £10m sign on fee to Sanchez
    £10m-£15m agent fee to Raiola.

  5. raptora

    Henrik Mkhitaryan speaking in his first Arsenal interview: “What am I looking forward to the most at Arsenal? It’s simple. I am an attacking footballer. I like to create chances, not tackle the opposition winger near my team’s corner flag!”

    LoL! That hidden blow pointed at mouninho’s boring football!

  6. 1886not1996

    Cart

    Spot on

    No other CL/top team needs a striker?

    No one bar a Chinese club have been in for him

    Chelsea are dying for a striker.
    Atletico could lose greiznann this summer

    Real?

    Etc

    He wants to come to arSenal who are in 6th 24 points back and out of CL and haven’t competed for over a decade.

    Sorry why would he leave Dortmund to come to ArSenal where all top players want to leave

  7. Marko

    I mean he showed Gervinho’s 11 goals for Arsenal as evidence so why not pop up a video of Auba’s 100 odd goals the last 3 years alone or even just the 21 from this season. Nah they’re basically the same

  8. 1886not1996

    Boring football that just signed our best player and will win major trophies way before we do with Wenger in charge

    Yes. That’s so LOL

    Wonder if you’ll be laughing when mkhit is the culprit for goals after goals being scored on us

    LOL

  9. Ishola70

    raptora:
    “What am I looking forward to the most at Arsenal? It’s simple. I am an attacking footballer. I like to create chances, not tackle the opposition winger near my team’s corner flag!”LoL!

    That hidden blow pointed at mouninho’s boring football!”

    Is that a true quote? You laugh but that is not encouraging.

    Arsenal already have what can be termed luxury players in the side in Xhaka and Ozil. Mikki would make it a third.

    Arsenal are not going to reach the pinnacle having too many individual players who don’t contribute or are useless in other areas.

    More than ever now players are showing that being able to contribute in multiple aspects is important.

    If that quote is true from Mikki I don’t like it.

    What he is saying is don’t expect me to work off the ball. And what has been Arsenal’s most damaging weakness for so long now? Yes lack of application off the ball.

  10. 1886not1996

    Lol, you do realise that United are outscoring us in the BPL all the while have shipped only HALF of our total goals conceded?

    Eagle.

    How dare you bring up facts

  11. Dolomite

    1886

    Again speculative non logic

    So on one hand Sanchez is DEFINITELY going to improve a team that hasnt finished above us recently

    While Mkyitarian is going to DEFINITELY drag us down below United.

    Please feel free to carry on.

  12. 1886not1996

    Dolomite.

    They WILL finish above us this season. By a big margin

    They will compete for league and CL next season.

    We will not.

  13. Bay Area Gooner

    Said it here first.
    Mikki looks like Flamini

    Its startling.
    Lets only hope he doesnt play like him.
    Well, Flamster was a hyperactive little shit… i guess he tried to play Defense

  14. Pierre

    1996
    “Lol, you do realise that United are outscoring us in the BPL all the while have shipped only HALF of our total goals conceded?”

    And still won’t win the league will they Josephine… Have to say, you must have turned over a new leaf… How long can you keep it up.

  15. Ishola70

    Liverpool on course for a very poor result at Swansea.

    What with Spurs drawing as well and these Prussian troops on the way to save Wenger Wellington’s arse the optimism of top four will go through the roof.

    How cruel lol!

  16. Dolomite

    Ishola

    “Arsenal already have what can be termed luxury players in the side in Xhaka and Ozil. Mikki would make it a third.”

    What sort of bollocks is this? Luxury players? Players either apply themselves to the best of their ABILITY and thats down to the MANAGER and his tactics.

    I know fans have their favourites but there are some weird and strange non football ideas being bandied about here

    Firstly I heard Gervinho = Aubameyang
    Now its all about “Luxury” players

    FFS get a grip.

  17. victorious

    1886

    So you think the $anchez signing elevated United to champions league contenders?.. I think NOT,you look at Man city’s team and there is a huge gulf in class ant talent

    United has as much chance all the top 6 team to win the league next season, the Auba’s signing completely transform our striking force

  18. Marko

    So………………..Mkhi was an Arsenal fan? …..and he went to Old Trafford to go bench warm first?

    He went to old Trafford because of the money him and his agent were getting last summer. Technically speaking last summer Mhkitaryan was a much bigger mercenary than Sanchez ever could be. Sanchez has never said anything about Arsenal being his dream move or anything like that but last summer Mhki had an opportunity apparently to join us and a combination of his agent and the money made him join United. I’m saying all this purely because of the Wengerites and their agenda to paint Sanchez as a mercenary when at the end of the day they like Wenger can’t accept that a player would want to leave Arsenal due to the lack of ambition

  19. Ishola70

    Calm yourself Dolomite.

    Tell me how you would term Xhaka?

    Tell me the overall aspects of his game that he contributes to the team.

    If you mention more than a couple at best you are lying through the teeth.

    Ozil is not in the same category as complete dud if we are talking about players that can contribute in other aspects but he can be seen as a passenger many times when Arsenal don’t have the ball.

    If you are dandy with adding a third very individualistic footballer to the first XI all power to you.

    But it’s ironic that you berate Wenger when in fact you are living in Wenger Wonderland.

    These players are what they are regardless of Arsene Wenger.

  20. Pierre

    I’m looking forward to the days when we can go back to walking the ball into the net because our forward play is so intricate and skilful…

    The more skilful, technical players we have in the attacking 3rd the better.

    Fed up with Wellbeck, giroud, Ramsey, Walcott..
    Bring back the days of hleb, rosicki, ces and rvp

  21. Marko

    What am I looking forward to the most at Arsenal? It’s simple. I am an attacking footballer. I like to create chances, not tackle the opposition winger near my team’s corner flag!”LoL!

    To be fair he does sound a bit like a luxury player but to be fair to him he is more likely to track back than Ozil is.

  22. Bay Area Gooner

    Pierre
    I want scoring any and every way possible. The tipi tapa style wont really work with Auba. He takes on defenders and I do think that our team better start shooting the ball more. Hell even Hector got some nice shots recently.

    Id like to see us actually shoot the ball more!

  23. Terraloon

    Dissenter

    Clearly the application went through but it was a new application but as both players already were in employment and in possession of permits they were entitled to be in the country and work so didn’t need to be out of the country to make applications.
    The rules are if a player represents a country in the top 50 FIFA ranked countries and played a set number of competitive games for their country then they will get, like Sanchez a permit on the nod.
    Players like Miki can not quite uplift hen their country is outside the top 50 so they have to be assessed on a couple of different criteria such as the value of their transfer fee, their wage, the number of minutes played and things like did their club play in the group stages of federation competitions
    The fact that he was a top player in Germany has no bearing whatsoever.
    When a work permit is granted certain obligations fall on the employer and those can’t be passed on from one club to another.
    Both applications in effect new and not updates of the origanls

  24. gazzap

    this might be an unpopular view on here today but it seems to be Mkhi is a poor mans Ozil. A team might get away with one player who is there for creativity only and doesn’t want to work but not two in the same area of the pitch!

  25. Pierre

    Oh well, that’s the end of ox… Warming the bench from now on..
    Back to being a passenger and getting hooked off as he was doing his impression of the invisible man.

  26. Bay Area Gooner

    id love to see Auba break the ankles of a couple of defenders this season. I miss the TH14 acceleration past anyone. Tap ins fine and good!

  27. Pierre

    Steve
    Have you ever thought that it is a very difficult league…

    City have a great record this season but there are probably 7/8 games where they survived with last minute goals.

  28. victorious

    “What’s the point in beating City
    and loosing to Swansea?”

    For a moment,I thought you were talking about us,I wish the bin dippers lovers would explain to us though,seems the race for top 4 is still on,so much the Wenger Out brigades

  29. 1886not1996

    Victorious

    We have 0% chance of winning the league as long as Wenger is here

    With aubu.

    Or Messi or Ronaldo. Or Neymar.

    Or Anyone

    0% because of Wenger

  30. Ishola70

    victorious
    “so much the Wenger Out brigades”

    mmm in Wenger we trust eh.

    With an appearance in the League Cup final guaranteed and top four now looking likely all looks quite rosy now or at least not as bad as the clueless WOBs make out.

  31. Leftsidesanch

    Steve, dont you realise that pos Wenger will find a way to mess it up. We’ve still lost double the games Liverpool has in the league this season.

  32. Marko

    Don’t want to say it but there we go.
    Pool win vs City, next game – a loss to Swansea.
    Klopp = Wenger

    Except our record against the top 6 this season is shit and our away record is as well shit so no Klopp isn’t equal to Wenger. We’ve got like 2 wins in 12 games let’s not start a dick measuring contest with a rival every time they drop points. It doesn’t make us any less shite

  33. Marko

    I wish the bin dippers lovers would explain to us though,seems the race for top 4 is still on,so much the Wenger Out brigades

    So Spurs draw Liverpool lose and suddenly Wenger looks like a genius? The absolute fuckwitery of it all

  34. Cart

    Steve

    “Ozil to jon Man Utd in the summer on free transfer.”

    This, I believe to be true. I feel that there’ll be at least 2-3 other teams waiting in the wings.

    What Ozil is doing to Arsenal pales in comparison to what Sanchez is alleged to have done.

    Who knows, maybe Mkhitaryan and Auba will be enough for Ozil to sign for 3-4 more years on £200k-£300k p/w with a sign on fee of between £5m-£10m.

  35. raptora

    Marko,
    Wenger of 2007 – 2011?! When we started having the fame of a team that would have like 30 shots a game just to draw/lose and make the opponent team’s GK a hero.

    We were with the most points in top 4 for several seasons running. And we were always short of winning something or progressing in UCL. That’s the Wenger I meant.

  36. DaleDaGooner

    Marko, and all who want to say Sanchez moved for footballing reasons and wanted to get away from Arsenal at all cost….

    He went for the money! simple fact!

    If he went purely for football and wanting to be loved and all, he’d go to the Champions elect….Sanchez’s statement is typical mercenary retort….So i guess City didn’t love him enough…

  37. UTarse

    Victorious,
    “United has as much chance all the top 6 team to win the league next season, the Auba’s signing completely transform our striking force”

    You are a buffoon and your posts are juvenile.

  38. tee

    Can all the negative Liverpool fans calm down a bit, we are coming across like arsenal fans here.
    Gerard, Belfast
    Posted at 21:28
    Swansea belief growing
    Swansea 1-0 Liverpool
    Michael Pearlman
    BBC Wales Sport at the Liberty Stadiu

  39. DaleDaGooner

    Mourinho is a boring cunt, I would be hurt if Sanchez went to Man City, He was obviously taking shots while claiming he loved the fans….He went to a manager who couldn’t get Cristiano, Hazard and a few top class players to like him.

  40. Terraloon

    Cart

    The fact that the Sanchez soap opera has come to an end in such a way has put Ozil in total control . I am not suggesting he’s going to get £400k or anything like but he isn’t going to sign for £200k either .
    As for Jack , he seems to have almost been forgotten but the longer Ozil holds out the more likely it becomes that the offer of a new contract increases in value

  41. DaleDaGooner

    Can all the negative Liverpool fans calm down a bit, we are coming across like arsenal fans here.

    HA HA HA….touche that’s the reputation we Arsenal fans have and wear proudly now…this is what it has come to be. I guess Klopp = Wenger mark II

  42. Bay Area Gooner

    Ozil will get around 300K PW
    Extended contract to make up the PW difference
    Sign on bonus to offset the lower wagers PW

    Some ways to keep him happy

  43. DaleDaGooner

    When people start saying Pierre-emerick Aubamayang is another Gervinho….you know that there are just some so called Arsenal fans who are only here to be miserable….not that Gervinho was even that bad. He wasn’t good enough, but he wasn’t that bad and Auba is FAR from a Gervinho….can’t please some of you.

  44. Bamford10

    Victorious

    And here I thought you were someone to be taken reasonably serious here. Alexis left for money because we’ve won more trophies than United recently? Jesus that’s fucking stupid. United aren’t managed by dipshit, United are spending huge money and are loaded with talent. He left because United are to be taken seriously; Arsenal under Wenger are not.

    Please save bullshit like that for some other website. That will not fly here.

  45. DaleDaGooner

    Saying United are the biggest club in the world, for a player that has played for Barcelona….yeah, justify your move for the money Alexis…

  46. Ishola70

    Wenger Eagle:

    “Aubameyang virtually never beats defenders off the dribble so this myth about him being the 2nd coming of Henry is just that- a myth”

    lol another poster mentioned him in the same breathe as Henry as well.

    Guy couldn’t play on the wing like Henry did. Doesn’t have the overall game of Henry.

    That’s not to say he won’t be of benefit and bag goals but really people should be thinking of him more as a superior Adebayor rather than bringing up Henry.

    Auba mania in full swing.

  47. raptora

    As Dale said, a player joining a new team decides to burn the bridges to his previous clubs. It doesn’t stand well. It strikes me as someone full of spite. His choice I guess.

  48. Cart

    Terraloon

    Frankly, there’s is no chance in hell that Ozil will earn in excess of £300k p/w. I can guarantee you it won’t happen. Why? cos the disparity will be so wide that it’ll cause a shit storm. In other words, put aside Ozil’s bargaining position, he simply is not good enough to justify that money.

    What we’ll do is front load his deal with a hefty sign-on fee that will make the one Henry received look like half a loaf of sourdough bread.

    Just look at City, ffs, they’re only paying De Bruyne e200k p/w, while the rest is made up on add-ons, image rights and annual sign-on fees.

  49. raptora

    Superior Adebayor will be more than we’ve had in the last 5 seasons. Superior Adebayor is what I’m hoping for. Prime Adebayor was a very good player. Better than Lacazette for sure.

  50. Leftsidesanch

    Seems like our official twitter handle have accidentally confirmed Aubas signing, then deleted all tweets.

    Mikki says “Yo Pierre you want to come here?”

  51. 1886not1996

    United have won same amp out of trophies in the last 2 years that we have in 14

    But yeah he lett more money. Hahahahaha

    A better manager.

    Better players.

    More ambitious club

    Better fans than our resident a K bs

    I’ll go on record and say Man U wins the title next season or be within 3-5 points.

    And challenge for the CL

  52. Bamford10

    Raptora

    Dale is misrepresenting why Alexis left because he is the insecure type who can’t accept that Arsenal under late Wenger just aren’t all that highly regarded.

  53. 1886not1996

    Alexis left Arsenal because he is a winner. And ambitious. Wants to win things.

    Not fa cups

    League and CL

    Much better chance with Man U than wengers arsenal.

    We have 0% chance of winning the league while Wenger is here.

    I’d even say 0% chance of making CL again while Wenger is here

  54. 1886not1996

    Remember a lot of posters on here said Sanchez and Ozil were just waiting to sign on after Wenger signed on.

    Hahahaha

    Right

  55. loyika

    All this arguement over what exactly?

    Sanchez is gone. Mikhi is here.

    Lets all cry a river and get the fcuk over it!! JEEZ!!

    We will all be here to see what team wins what this and next season innit?

    At least we all know Citeh have wrapped up the league, so no arguements about that bit.

    Wish Alexis well on his journey and welcome the new lad(s) to Arsenal. (The rest is just bs and flapping about, as both will make their monies either ways) Simple really!!

  56. Relieable Sauce

    Pires insists that Arsenal never had a problem with Sanchez’s attitude and even claims that he ideally wanted to stay at the club.

    “In my opinion, Alexis wanted to stay at Arsenal.

    “I haven’t spoken to him, but from what I see and feel he was doing very well in London, very well at Arsenal. What Alexis wanted was for Arsenal to spend money on players. That is my opinion and maybe I’m wrong.

    “I know that if I have a player like Sanchez, the first thing I do is to renew his contract. Then I would buy players to make a better team and try to win the league.

    “What I don’t understand is that a team like Arsenal allows their best men to sign for a rival side.

    “I’ve been with the first team every day and I see how Alexis is.

    “I honestly can say that his behaviour is very good. He is very professional, he always wants to win, even in training.

    “It’s a way of telling the team: ‘If you don’t want to be like this, then I leave.’ I think this is all Alexis wanted to prove.

    “He’s impressive in training. He is there, working with a smile, and happy. He has a very positive attitude towards himself and towards Arsenal.”

  57. loyika

    1886

    The thing is if we actually do get back into the UCL (Which in itself can be looked at as either a good or bad thing) will you be big enough to come back here and say you were spouting bollocks (without going on a rant about how getting back into the top 4 mean nothing)

    Also applies to if United don’t compete (as i dare say any of the other top 6 are actually competing this season) next season or do anything of note in the UCL this season or next and all they end up with is say FAC and League Cups. Will you come on here and hold your hand up?

    Don’t worry the rest of the regular posters will be here regardless of how things pan out.

    So what you say mate?

  58. Marko

    “I know that if I have a player like Sanchez, the first thing I do is to renew his contract. Then I would buy players to make a better team and try to win the league.“What I don’t understand is that a team like Arsenal allows their best men to sign for a rival side.

    Bobby Pires for the win. Scathing stuff. Won’t see him at the training ground anytime soon

  59. 1886not1996

    Loyika

    It really is pointless for us to make CL while Wenger is here

    We will just get embarrassed again.

    The only good is making money that Wenger doesn’t spend anyway

    We won’t make top 4 again while Wenger is here and if we do we will get embarrassed anyway. But I stand by what I said

    We won’t.

  60. raptora

    Alexis just keeps talking man.. Can’t he shut up for a second? Had to say how his hairs stood up when he looked at their badge. Had to say how THEIR RED COLORS were the one that always stood out for him. How it is the biggest club in England and the World. How it was his dream to play there ever since he was a kid.

    He has been with us for 3 and a half seasons. He got paid by our club, he was a fan favorite since day 1, fans were singing his name, wearing his shirts, had posters in their houses and were spending money so they could watch him play. He could have been waaaaay, waaay more delicate with his words. It’s just not right. Not humble.

    I’m kinda baffled. Didn’t expect that tbh.

  61. Bamford10

    Raptora

    RVP did something nearly identical. He said, upon arriving at United, “now I am finally in my real home.”

    It doesn’t mean all that much. They’re trying to kiss up to their new fans, but clearly there is something powerful about being welcomed in at United. It is a very big club, after all.

  62. TonyD

    So another Wenger sycophant joins us:

    “‘I always loved the way that Arsenal played and the way that Arsene Wenger has managed the team. There have been a lot of young players, he’s managed them and they’ve done very well.”

    “Henrikh Mkhitaryan says it’s a ‘dream come true’ as he joins Arsenal from Manchester United in swap deal with Alexis Sanchez”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5299131/Henrikh-Mkhitaryan-joins-Arsenal-Manchester-United.html#ixzz54xrVGhKD

  63. raptora

    Henrikh Mkhitaryan said: “I am very proud to join Manchester United, this move is a dream come true for me. I am excited to play for a club with such an illustrious history and hope to be part of it for a long time. I thank the trust the club and Jose Mourinho have put in me. Finally, I believe playing for such a great club honours my father’s memory, and the inspiration and drive he gave to me when I was young.”

    Henrikh says pretty much same thing back then as he is now, minus the part with honouring his father’s memory. Not offending anyone in any way back then, as now. Now compare it to Alexis’ message. It’s day and night. It’s whatever man, he is history. In my eyes very disrespectful of him, to say how he dedicates all of the good moments to the fans who are the most important, and then goes to say how THEIR red colors are the one that always stood out for him. And how he says it’s the biggest club in England and in the world in numerous places.

    Anyways, I’ll try not to trouble my mind with it. It’s just shitty. He could have said it waaaay, way more delicate than he has. He has basically went the extra mile of the extra mile of the extra mile. Whatevers. Happy life.

  64. Marko

    THEIR red colors are the one that always stood out for him. And how he says it’s the biggest club in England and in the world in numerous places.

    Sounds like you’re more upset about the Jersey bit more than anything because the second bit is undeniable. You didn’t think we were?

  65. TonyD

    Here’s what I don’t understand.

    Mikki has very poor stats in the PL, but it looks like we’re paying him around £170k a week. How then, if he doesn’t make the level expected of him are we able to move him on.

    “Mkhitaryan became Arsenal’s current top earner on a deal worth £9million-a-year after passing his medical.” The Daily Mail quotes.

    I wish Mikki well with us and will hold off any further comments until he has played 10 games for us because he shouldn’t need time to acclimatise to the PL.

    It looks like we are gambling on getting Auba and further gambling that Mikki and Auba can replicate their previous successful partnership.

    Personally Mikki is not my choice as I’d prefer Fikir, Lemar or at least Martial if it had to be a swap deal.

    Time will tell!

    Also I’d have preferred any number of names quoted here for a DMF, let’s see if that is going to happen independently of this deal.

    Finally good luck to Sanchez.

  66. TonyD

    Sanchez has wasted no time in telling his side of the story and explaining his ambition.

    “Alexis Sánchez insisted he left Arsenal to win trophies and appeared to hit back at the critics who have branded him a “mercenary” as the Chile striker claimed he had realised a childhood dream after finally completing his move to Manchester United on Monday evening.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/22/alexis-sanchez-transfer-manchester-united-arsenal-confirmed/

  67. TonyD

    It always seems so disingenuous of players pretty much always say things like,

    “It has always been my dream to play for …..”

    When joining a club.

    I would have imagined Mikki when not even making the United bench would have dreamed for playing for any club.

    Anyone got any idea what we had to pay Mikki’s agent for this deal? I can’t see him being given a free pass by his agent.

  68. PhD07

    I’ve never been so sick with total utter putrid..

    So much so,that it is evaporating from my very pores..

    The club makes me totally sick,beyond words.Beyond word comprehension.

    To sell Vieira,then Henry,Pires,Cesc,Nasri,RVP and now Sanchez-more so as a face saving exercise..To herald Miki in exchange, as the salvation-the next coming.If not, the next coming,but the equivalent of Sanchez.,is beyond words.

    I really want to vomit..

    The ambition of this club,is in a totally sunken level.

    I know longer identify with this ramshackle of a club,under the current regime.

    I’m not going to justify my reasons.

    But seeing posters like the following:- Emirates Stroller(paint Sanchez as a mercenary),Pierre,Number9,Don,Raptora try to paint an all together perfect harmonious picture in the current set of circumstances.

    You guy’s need sectioning,much like your maestro-Arsene Wenger.

    A mad man,much like the fans..Worrying about the hole in the roof,when your whole house is on fire.

    Incredible..

  69. Dissenter

    Dortmund want a striker to replacement before they sanction Auba’s move.

    Why don’t we throw in Chuba Akpom?

  70. Rambo Ramsey

    “I remember today, a conversation I had with Henry, a historic Arsenal player, who changed club for the same reason and today is my turn”

    Comparing himself with a true Arsenal legend like Henry.

    I reiterate: I hope you break a leg, I hope you break both legs.

  71. 1886not1996

    Those laughing at united for paying Sanchez so much :

    United made £581million during the 2016-17 season, pipping Real Madrid to the top spot by just £1.5million, the closest margin in the rich list’s 21 years

    Sanchez is a drop in the bucket.

    But good job Wenger the economist thought “top 4” was success. Guess sponsors don’t think the same

    Maybe we should spent a little more on buying quality players rather than wasting high salaries on players like Denilson Walcott Ramsey jack etc

  72. Emiratesstroller

    I think that it is crystal clear that UNLESS Arsenal starts spending money in the transfer market and increase their spend on wages to elite players their current revenues are in danger of collapsing and other clubs such as Liverpool and Spurs overtaking us.

    Arsenal have failed to qualify this season for Champions League and a repeat
    next season could impact severely on future sponsorship and finances.

    First because the club will be forced to reduce ticket prices as they have done
    this season. My guess is that it might become even harder next season to fill
    seats particularly if season ticket holders stop renewing.

    Second Arsenal’s two primary revenue streams are Sponsors Emirates and Puma. Current deals expire in 2019. Emirates shirt deal is already not being renewed.

    I am sure that there is now a realisation that Arsenal’s present squad is not good enough to finish in top 4 this season and a wakeup call that the management structure at club is stale.

    We have seen material changes in football administration and scouting. The
    first test has extracted a modest success in the Sanchez and Mkhitaryan deal.
    Realistically we could have landed up with Sanchez leaving on Bosman with
    Arsenal forced to spend £50 million + on replacement.

    The Aubameyang deal is now an imperative not least because he is still rated
    one of the best strikers in world football despite some negatives of Le Grove
    Posters. That deal needs to be concluded if Arsenal are to be taken seriously
    in transfer market.

    Finally Arsenal need to keep Ozil on the books and be seen to pay top dollar
    wages, which are competitive with other clubs. Ozil’s status is of course lower
    than Sanchez, because he is not a prolific goalscorer, but he is still one of the
    most creative players in the game and has an excellent assist record.

    Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool have invested properly
    this season in transfer market. Sofar we have failed to do so and that needs to
    change.

    Finally Arsenal need an upgrade on their First Team Coaching and Academy
    Development Programme. That is not just down to bringing in new players,
    but how the team and individuals are improved.

    Wenger and his coaches have failed to achieve this in last decade using lack
    of financial clout as an excuse. Other clubs with more limited pay grades have
    managed to achieve what we have failed to do.

  73. Rambo Ramsey

    1886, United are reaping the rewards of years of domination under Fergie. But Fergie years are a thing of the past now, have been for some time.

    I can’t imagine a lot of companies bending over to get themselves affiliated with the Manchester United of today. How many will want to renew their sponsorship deals?

    So if you think United will continue to generate those revenues regardless of performance on pitch, you don’t understand economics.

  74. Black Hei

    1886not1996

    I think it is not so simple. You need to look at the operating margins not just the gross figures.

    Plus the knock on effects. De Gea and Pogba will want the same salary as well. Plus any new expensive player Mourinho acquires.

    The net revenue for football clubs are typically well below 10%.

  75. Black Hei

    TonyD

    My guess is that we paid nothing. Which is why we have a transfer fee of zero bucks.

    All that money went to paying the agent while United had to pay off Mik’s outstanding contract value.

    There is only 1 real winner here…..football agents.

    Don’t get me wrong though, I am happy we are actually getting a player in exchange.

    I think the new structure in place is working. Mik + Auba would never have happened in the old ways.

  76. 1886not1996

    Rambo

    What do you think is going to happen
    To arsenal because of Wenger

    United still attract Pogba. Pulled Sanchez.

    They will be competing for the league next season and CL

    My my words.

    They’ve already won Europa.

    They are still the biggest club on the planet. Whether you want to believe it or not.

  77. Emiratesstroller

    Rambo Ramsey

    The key difference between Man United and Arsenal is that they have just renewed their key sponsors whereas Arsenal’s will expire in 2019. Arsenal are
    under severe pressure now to perform not just in commercial department, but
    in football performance as well.

    Man Utd have thrown money at problem and we have failed to do so.

  78. Rambo Ramsey

    Alexis Sanchez took offense at Arsenal legends calling him a moneywhore. Well, he’s missed what his new club’s legend, one Rio Ferdinand, had to say.

    A wanker gets what he deserves.

  79. 1886not1996

    Man U will Win again because they have ambition to win. A manager who wants to win trophies. Not bank balance trophy

    All problems at Arsenal start and end with wenger.

    Mkhit. Aubu. Will not solve the major problem at Arsenal.

    They just got Alexis for free. Don’t think they are done yet. Jose will buy more players in the summer. They will challenge on all fronts next season.

    Unless Wenger leaves, we will be just as we are this year. A laughing stock in 6-10th place. Plus losing commercial deals.

    I Hope you all still feel winning the fa cup in 2014 was worth Wenger signing on for another 5 years of Wenger

    If the invincibles has been worth the last 14 years.

    I’d rather have lost one match that season
    And Wenger been let go a decade ago.

  80. 1886not1996

    The hilarity of people calling Sanchez a wanker.

    We have the most pathetic fan base.

    Who’s fault Is he wasn’t signed up 2 years ago?

    Who’s fault was it he wasn’t sold for 60m this summer?

    Now Sanchez is the villain, just like
    RVP, cesc, Nasri, viera, etc

    It’s never wengers fault is it

    Nope
    Sanchez is the wanker because he did what he was free to do because of wengers failures and fuck ups

    The one man who has even given us any hope of anything the last 3 years. Easily been our best player. Saved wenger’s ass and Arsenal’s from being even more of a joke than we are

    And he’s the wanker

    Ha laughable.

  81. Rambo Ramsey

    Hey look, GI J.oe is back with his monotonous, tunnel visioned comments.

    Wenger can be a Cunt and Sanchez a Wanker. Both are simultaneously possible in this World of ours. What a shocker, eh.

    Do you reckon the hair on Sanchez’s dogs stood up when they saw the shit hole that is Manchester for the first time?

  82. Emiratesstroller

    1886not1996

    I doubt that Sanchez would have signed a new deal two years ago and I suspect
    that the 10-1 thrashing by Bayern Munich reinforced his decision.

    Arsenal’s fate was also sealed by lack of world class recruitment before 2015-16
    followed by our minimal transfer business last summer.

    The lack of ambition and Wenger’s diminishing reputation have not helped our cause.

  83. Rambo Ramsey

    Emirates, do you reckon it likely Man United maintain their ridiculous income the longer they continue to be one of the also-rans of the PL?

  84. Arrays

    Rambo RamseyJanuary 23, 2018 03:33:44
    1886, United are reaping the rewards of years of domination under Fergie. But Fergie years are a thing of the past now, have been for some time. I can’t imagine a lot of companies bending over to get themselves affiliated with the Manchester United of today. How many will want to renew their sponsorship deals? So if you think United will continue to generate those revenues regardless of performance on pitch, you don’t understand economics.

    They just signed a new sponsor yesterday, you silly. Check on google.

  85. Arrays

    Funny some random guy on internet thinks he knows better on economy than those professionals on hired at big club.

  86. DivineSherlock

    What is the problem at legrove , guys we sold Van Persie . We didn’t sign a replacement !
    We sold sanchez , we immediately bought a player who was influential for Dortmund, used badly by Mourinho. Who provided the right impetus can do it for us potentially.

  87. Emiratesstroller

    Arsenal’s transfer failings started 4 years ago when we resumed spending money.

    We failed to recruit Higuain or Suarez and only managed to recruit Ozil on the last day of window having spent absolutely nothing throughout the transfer window.

    The following year we bought Sanchez, which was a decent investment.

    Since then our transfer business has been fairly uninspired. Cech was already
    second string at Chelsea when we bought him and Mustafi, Xhaka and Lacazette whilst considered decent players were hardly headliners.

  88. 1886not1996

    Rambo

    Why is Sanchez a wanker?

    And how do you know Man U will
    Be also-rans

    I’ll bet you a £100 that they challenge if not win it next season and challenge for CL

  89. Rambo Ramsey

    Arrays, basic common sense is all you need to associate Success and Revenues.

    Now don’t get all tetchy because you lack it.

    How do you think United became this juggernaut in the first place?

  90. 1886not1996

    Emirates

    Spot on

    What do you think Sanchez thought when only Cech was brought in and we finished 10 Points back of Leicester fucking city.

    Wengers fault, 100% Sanchez didn’t sign.

    No one else’s.

  91. 1886not1996

    Rambo.

    By winning things

    And you don’t think by signing Pogba and Sanchez and Lukaku they aren’t on the right track

    I trust Jose to get it right a lot more than Wenger.

  92. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘And you don’t think by signing Pogba and Sanchez and Lukaku they aren’t on the right track’

    The next few years will tell. These players might take United back to top OR they could be expensive mistakes. And United’s wait to become Champions of England will drag on and no longer possess that commercial appeal for potential investors.

  93. Emiratesstroller

    Frankly I despise Mourinho and don’t particularly rate him as a coach, but he does get results primarily, because he goes to clubs which expect to win top trophies.

    Manchester United go looking for physical specimens and beasts when they recruit. Arsenal by contrast under Wenger go for the cultured footballer.

    Buying cultured footballers is not going to win major trophies unless that is
    combined with winning mentality.

  94. 1886not1996

    Walcott Ramsey Elneny xhaka wellbeck giroud Are cultured footballers?

    They are just average players who have all
    Regressed under Wenger.

    Ozil. Sanchez. Santi you could
    Say are cultured.

  95. 1886not1996

    Jose is a winner at all costs. I would rather have Jose here than Wenger at the moment

    The man won 2 out of 4 trophies last year. In his first year.

    Who knows how far they’ll make it CL this season

    Next year he will get Man U challenging for league. And CL

  96. Mick Kartun

    Arrays
    January 23, 2018 04:33:59

    Funny some random guy on internet thinks he knows better on economy than those professionals on hired at big club.
    Rambo Ramsey
    January 23, 2018 04:40:30

    Arrays, basic common sense is all you need to associate Success and Revenues.

    Now don’t get all tetchy because you lack it.

    —–
    A self obsessed wanker (nobody) dared to call somebody’s proven in life and wish break his lack.

    This bloke hads a mouth dirtier than a wicker toilet seat. Keep talking dumbo, someday you’ll say something intelligent!

  97. Emiratesstroller

    Bluntly I would not want either Wenger or Mourinho at moment.

    Wenger because he has been far too long in the job and Mourinho for the reverse, because you know that he will not last more than a couple of years, because he is fractious and unpleasant.

  98. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘Keep talking dumbo, someday you’ll say something intelligent!’

    I might, but you clearly will not. So best stop trying, Cartoon man.

  99. peanuts&monkeys

    “I reiterate: I hope you break a leg, I hope you break both legs.”

    Shame Arsene Fc for having fans like these.. these are the guys who buy Arsenal’s season tickets, clap and cheer, and keep Arsenal rotting for 15 years. this is true Arsenal shit fan.

    @RR, this chap gave everything he had 110% everytime for 4 years. he won you games from death and inspired your arseneLackeys like Giroud and Ramsey to offer 100% of their potential. and, you are already booing him.

    If someone can wish Sanchez breaks both legs, I wish Arsene Wenger goes in coma rightaway for next 22 years.

  100. Black Hei

    Well, I have no hate for Sanchez. Like Cesc before him, I felt that he has adequately given us fantastic performances so I am indifferent at the emotional level. Plus if he had gone to City, I doubt we would have gotten Aubameyang AND Mikh. So I am kind of glad we turned a bad situation into a relatively ok one.

  101. qna

    BH: Well, I have no hate for Sanchez. Like Cesc before him, I felt that he has adequately given us fantastic performances so I am indifferent at the emotional level. Plus if he had gone to City, I doubt we would have gotten Aubameyang AND Mikh. So I am kind of glad we turned a bad situation into a relatively ok one.

    Agree. He chose to come to us for a while and then he chose to leave. He also did the courtesy of letting us know a long time ago that he had no intention of signing a new contract. Its hardly his fault that we had no idea how to go into the transfer market and get his replacement at a time where we would have doubled what we paid for him. In the end he was just lucky that his new club had some deadwood to offload and that just about got the deal done for him.

    I wont wish him well, but I am glad he was one of us for a while.

  102. gonsterous

    so when is the leach going to stop sucking us dry ? if wenger gets top 4, he’ll be here for another season of “why you look at me?”

  103. Wallace

    Marko

    “It’s a shame Wallace is hiding under a rock these days I would have loved to have heard his flip flop on Aubameyang.”

    I’m not going to whine if we sign him. great speed and a top goalscorer. struggling to see how we fashion a balanced front six incorporating Mkhitaryan, Ozil, Lacazette & Aubameyang though. would have preferred Malcom or a player with similar attributes.

    but Mkhi & Auba in one window…you’d have to be a bit of a dick to be complaining about that.

  104. Rambo Ramsey

    Most tabloids claiming Dortmund ‘determined’ to get Olie G. What’s that about? He’s like the complete opposite of Auba, how would he fit the existing system there?

  105. Terraloon

    Carts

    It’s interesting you mention KDB and how Man City have structured his remuneration package. For its the last part that’s interesting where ther refer to the signing on fee

    Back to Ozil and I don’t doubt he won’t get £300k a week but like KDB it’s the signing on fee that’s interesting

    When the contract is 3 years or more the signing on fee can’t be paid in one sum it has to be paid in equal annual instalments.

    As a total aside I see that Sanchez has a four and half year contract at Utd. It’s normal for a 5 year deal but as all contracts have to end on 30 June that time makes sense
    .What I can’t work out for the life of me is why Sanchez who was signed for a wedge when he arrived at Arsenal was only on a 4 year deal. Everything his age, his fee the timing of the deal etc points to a 5 year deal .

  106. PhD07

    EmiratesstrollerJanuary 23, 2018 04:53:30
    Arsenal’s fate was also sealed by lack of world class recruitment before 2015-16
    followed by our minimal transfer business last summer.The lack of ambition and Wenger’s diminishing reputation have not helped our cause.

    ———————–

    Welcome to the 2008 party,that’s moved on a generation..

    We applaud your insight and never ending long winded missives” Mr Inspective Clouseau…”.

    Clap,clap for your thorough insight..

  107. Black Hei

    Terraloon

    To be fair, prior to Sanchez were the likes of Podolski and Gervinho.

    Those 2 were similar to Sanchez, B grade talents at the point of signing that can go either up or down.

    So I can understand giving that 4 year deal; we were taking a risk buying a Barca flop.

  108. Pierre

    1896/96
    “The man won 2 out of 4 trophies last year. In his first year.”

    Joseph… At last you admit that winning something other than the prem or champions league is a trophy.

    You didn’t quite go as far to say that he did the treble with the super cup (community shield) but finally you have come out of denial about the fa cup not being a trophy.

  109. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    If we get the striker
    I reckon there will be a coup with the chief being overthrown,

    Wenger will be gone by June

    Unfortunately he will be forced upstairs rather than out the club:

    The German coup will over throw him

    Bye wenger