The three reasons Lacazette is failing

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Arsenal host Bournemouth for the second time this season after a comfortable spanking at the Emirates earlier in the season. One of the players on the teamsheet that day was our most expensive signing ever… Lacazette.

Extra focus has fallen on his fragile shoulders because, well, you know, he’s not fu*king scoring. He hasn’t found the net in 8 games. The Frenchman came over with a goal a game kinda record – 4 in his first 6 felt like he’d find that kind of form with us – now he’s staring at a very rough 4 in 17. For a player of that price tag, it’s simply not good enough.

Arsene Wenger did his best to ensure he covered a whole plethora of potential reasons his star man hasn’t been performing.

Language.

“It’s a difficult period because the family comes over and it’s a bit less football-orientated,”

“I think the fact he lives here with French players and can speak French when needed, and that Lyon is not too far, is OK. But the first six months are always difficult.”

Physicality.

“The physical pressure on strikers in England has become absolutely massive,”

“The physical demands and the intensity in the challenges is much bigger than in France. In England, you play against teams who are organised and can physically cope with 90 minutes’ intensity. The defenders are much quicker than before. They are all athletes now at the back.”

Mentality.

“The body needs to get used to it; the mind, as well,”

Just, you know, being a Lyon player.

“They don’t like to move away, usually. They produce their own players, the players who grew up around Lyon, like Fekir, Lacazette, Gonalons. They usually like to stay there. I did not know whether they wanted to move or not. It is a very specific French player at Lyon.”

More physicality.

“In France, you go down and it’s a free-kick. In England, you go down and it’s no free-kick. That is much more difficult for the striker to get used to. I think he resists better.”

Quite the list. The one about Lyon players not wanting to move is baffling when you consider how exceptional Jean-Michel Aulas has been at selling players consistently for vast sums over the years. Not sure how a self-proclaimed selling club could exist if they weren’t flogging talent.

Anyway, the long and short of it is Wenger signed a player who didn’t look a fit for the Premier League from a physical standpoint, now he’s telling us it’s tough for him.

I hope it comes good for Lacazette, I really like him as a player. He works hard, he’s very good at winning the ball from the front, and on his day he finds the right spaces and he’s very instinctive. I think he’d work well with a partner in crime, someone who could do the dirty work for him when it’s an overly tough game. I can’t imagine there’s any chance of Wenger looking to tweak the way we play to suit the skill set of a player though.

Our options aren’t looking great tomorrow. No Sanchez or Ozil for obvious reasons. Kolasinac, Koscielny and Monreal are doubts in defence. Giroud is out with a hamstring.

Jack Wilshere is fit, which is fantastic news, and I’m assuming Aaron Ramsey makes a return, likely on the bench.

It’s hard to know which Arsenal are going to show up. If it’s the one that played with discipline and purpose at Chelsea, it’s likely we’ll be in pretty good shape. If it’s the team that turned up away at Nottingham Forest, we’re in a world of trouble.

I always think Eddie Howe has half an eye on impressing the board at Arsenal in these games (bit like O’leary), so you’ll know his team are going to be pumped for the occasion. Any sort of switch off will be punished, as we’ve seen before. We really can’t affort to take the foot off the gas because top 4 is getting harder and harder as the weeks go past and our results continue to flatline.

Before I go, the Ozil and Sanchez story is getting more and more depressing. As it stands, it’s the two Manchester clubs brokering some ‘who will blink’ shit on Sanchez. The noise is hotting up that United are going to come through with numbers that Manchester City can’t stomach. Even worse? United are being heavily linked with Mesut Ozil. If anything has been good at Arsenal over the last few years with us, it’s watching those two rip it up together. The thought of them reuniting under Jose is a kicker.

Remember when the sycophants were saying Ozil and Sanchez were waiting on Wenger to see if they’d sign on? As I said at the time, top players like that are waiting to see if he signs on so they can make plans to leave. Great players don’t want to waste their careers under a man who can’t take them to the promised land of Premier League titles and Champions League medals. If you didn’t see that coming, well, read more Le Grove.

Right, that’s me done.

We’re rolling with another Facebook Live podcast that’ll air at 0600pm UK time (0100 EST). Tune in if you can, would be great to get your reactions to the game and bang them in the podcast if they’re exactly the same as what I think.

Enjoy the game. Also, take a read of yesterday’s post on the direction Arsenal seem to be taking the managerial decision.

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  1. TR7

    Well good for you if you behave like a Saint in your classroom but deliberately come across as a condescending, arrogant and abusive individual on internet. That’s some talent!

  2. Don

    Marko

    Then you don’t understand do you Stephen Hawkins? Man U did not rise to 6th. This is Man U. The biggest club in England. To laud them for finishing 6th is pathetic. Just as it would be for arsenal. But consistency never was your strong suit was it?

  3. graham62

    What more can be said?

    Wenger has lost my respect……………………TOTALLY!

    I now hope we lose to Chelski, get knocked out of the EL and implode in the league.

    It’s the only solution to rid the club of this despicable individual.

  4. Bob

    The whole British core got fucked over by championship players today. Chambers holding wilshere Walcott welbeck Ramsay
    No top 6 team in any fucking league would have that load of shit. no fucking top 6 team want wilshere why the fuck should arsenal want him.

  5. Don

    Raptora
    Klopp has finished no higher than 4th in a poor iteration of the premier league. He’s nothing compared to early Wenger. In fact he’s pretty much on par with 2006-2015 Wenger

  6. Bamford10

    Don

    Except that different insults are (rightly) treated differently here. If someone insults another poster here because of the poster’s religion or ethnicity or skin color or nationality, that is generally regarded (rightly) to be beyond the pale. If someone tells an Indian supporter to go back to watching cricket, or tells an American poster to go back to the gridiron, we treat these differently. The above is the only kind of comment that I’ve ever highlighted to Pedro — and I am far from the only person who has highlighted these kinds of remarks. So, sorry but no: the two types of insults are not the same.

  7. Marko

    If it’s ok for bob and Omar to highlight the English core then surely it’s ok to highlight something to the contrary
    Put your tampon back in

    Technically speaking Wenger started the whole British core thing. Secondly you brought up Muslims shocking I know and again it’s all part of this tiny bigot mentality you’ve got going on. You’re literally just back from your second banning in the last couple months for derogatory statements you’re either thick or thick at this point. Like I said before keep that shit to yourself or piss off to breitbart where you’d be more comfortable

  8. TitsMcGee

    Well good for you if you behave like a Saint in your classroom but deliberately come across as a condescending, arrogant and abusive individual on internet. That’s some talent!”

    You’ve always had a thing for Bamford. You don’tlike his posts then just ignore.

  9. Rainman

    alexanderhenry

    Here here, maybe I’m thin skinned, but the insults thrown about here are pretty annoying, have a hard time believing these are actually adults with families and everything

  10. OleGunner

    Pretty sure we’ll win the Caraboooo cup.
    That’s enough for the sycophants and
    Wenger to get extension so as to “not cause more confusion with a year left on his contract”.

  11. Dolomite

    Klopp has his blindspots, but unlike Wenger, he does tactics, he instructs, he teaches organization, and he coaches both sides of the ball.

    Well said Bamford.

    Ox coincidentally is currently on his highest scoring tall in the PL EVER!!!!

    You dickhead AKBs need to accept it Wenger destroys players and is FINISHED

  12. Marko

    Then you don’t understand do you Stephen Hawkins? Man U did not rise to 6th. This is Man U. The biggest club in England. To laud them for finishing 6th is pathetic. Just as it would be for arsenal. But consistency never was your strong suit was it?

    Listen you thick cunt did I ever say that going from first to sixth was a gradual rise you dimwit no I said going from 6th and no champions league to their current position and champions league is a gradual rise. Are you dense? They are gradually on the rise whereas we are on a steep decline.

  13. Bob

    Don
    A muslim player mo salah he’s scored more goals in 6month then England’s best player Jack wilshere in he’s whole
    life.

  14. Don

    Marko

    Yes. What’s your point? That it’s rude to point out that we have 6 Muslims in the team as well as 6 english players?
    Like I said it wasn’t derogatory but the blame should be apportioned equally. Not just assigned to the English players.
    Bob again is using the term DOG TO DESCRIBE ENGLISH PEOPLE AND NOBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH THIS?

  15. Dream10

    Klopp is exceptional at building attacking combinations with pace. Just like his Dortmund side, this Liverpool are a nightmare on the counter. With Mane and Salah in the team, Liverpool can play shit for 85 minutes and win 3-0.

    We’re the complete opposite. Play in the opposition half for 80 minutes & lose 3-1 while have creating less quality chances.

  16. Dolomite

    Ive certainly realised that AKB’s love of Wenger would actually see them destroy Arsenal Football Club as an entity just to justify him staying on.

    The situation is much more dire than I thought – a visible nagging problem being ignored and the blame being put on everything else but WENGER.

  17. Marko

    Don I’m actually going to help you out here. Do you not notice how smart everyone else is by ignoring Bob and do you not see how thick you become when you continue to address him? I mean you’re both two sides of the same coin but you save a lot of time if you don’t sink to his level

  18. Don

    Bob

    So what? Harry Kane scores way more than salah. Big deal. Wilshere isn’t an attcaker and has been injured for almost his entire career
    Take nothing away from salah he’s been excellent.
    See I can appreciate the talent of a player no matter who is or where he is from bob.
    You can’t. You’re the racist
    You hate English players which you’ve admitted.

  19. Rambo Ramsey

    Liverpool are prone to the regular late collapse because of Klopp’s right-off-the-bat, high intensity game plan. When it works out its spectacular but it always leaves room for the opposite to happen. Klopp has no alternate approach to the game.

    Kudos to him, it works out well most of the time in big games. Because I think the usual approach by big game managers is to play safe, engage in cagey battle and wait for the opponent to make a mistake. Klopp’s teams throw a spanner in those conservative game plans, he forces you to try and match his teams intensity and you’re just not drilled for that.

    Doesn’t always work against bottom teams who sit back and pass the ball into the stands. They don’t raise their tempo in hopes to match their opponents and this is where Klopp’s tactics hit a brick wall.

  20. Don

    Marko

    Yes. Because I’m not a pansy. I won’t let Some intruder slate my county or country men. We have enough “men” in the west that bend over backwards for views like Bob’s and that’s been a big problem recently.
    That’s the last I’ll say on the matter.

  21. Wenker-wanger

    @ Alex…spellchecker mate…..ROMFORD PELE….is rays knickname….
    @ don.
    No one remembers those trophies more than me….I loved that period.
    Just looking back I really now not only question Wenger’s input but seem certain that it was not that significant.
    Those trophies were won by a fantastic core of winning mentality and leadership on the field, with Tony Adams the main driving force. Wenger was ab bystander, a self confessed “respector of the great players and allowing them to express themselves”……
    When the last of the great players he inherited left the club, the decline of arsenal with Wenger became so apparent.
    Had Wenger left years ago, the doubt of his success then wouldn’t have been queried. Since we now have real evidence of the totally incompetent management by this fraudster, we surely ask the question”how on earth did he,personally, have such success???

  22. Marko

    Yes. What’s your point? That it’s rude to point out that we have 6 Muslims in the team as well as 6 english players?

    One YOU were the one to bring in a person’s religion shocking I know. You do realize that you can be British AND Muslim? Huh but you brought up religion as a negative with a tone but we’ll forget that.

    Bob again is using the term DOG TO DESCRIBE ENGLISH PEOPLE AND NOBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH THIS?

    Cause everyone else is smart enough to ignore him but you

  23. Don

    Listen you thick cunt did I ever say that going from first to sixth was a gradual rise you dimwit no I said going from 6th and no champions league to their current position and champions league is a gradual rise. Are you dense? They are gradually on the rise whereas we are on a steep decline.

    Lolz

    Wind it in marko. Why you being so aggressive bro?

  24. Marko

    Yes. Because I’m not a pansy. I won’t let Some intruder

    There you go again. Your personality just seeps through your commentary. Yeah we get it you’re a tough man’s man who’s too stupid to know when he should ignore someone.

  25. Don

    Marko

    Yes. So one demographic was highlighted by a plethora of posters.
    And guess what?? I just highlighted another one. Boohoo. Put your tampon back in you soyboy

  26. Bamford10

    Don

    Except that no one here ever lauded United for finishing sixth. This is a straw man argument.

    Some here might have offered tepid praise for their Europa title — it is a European trophy, after all, and it did gain them a CL spot — but beyond that, very little.

    Why do you and your ilk get so caught up on things like this? It’s very strange to me.

    A Le Grover says, “God, we’re shit.”

    Then one of your ilk leaps up to say: “what about United? Why don’t you say they’re shit?”

    How is this relevant? This is noothing more than “whataboutism”.

    Plus you and your ilk are constantly misrepresenting what people here do say about a United or a Spurs.

    For you it is simply unacceptable that anyone here ever say anything positive about another club. For me this is an old, outdated, provincial and irrational approach to the game.

    To each their own, I guess.

    At least be honest, though.

  27. arsene's used sock

    we’re so fucking shit at all levels of management in this club.
    shit and piss that hasn’t been flushed for over a decade

  28. Marko

    Wind it in marko. Why you being so aggressive bro?

    Apologies it’s just so hard to make an idiot understand basic English. It’s tough getting through to a stupid person

  29. Dissenter

    I really don’t get the obsession with Bamford’s college experience or his professional background.

    TR7,
    Who cares is he’s a teacher. He’s a gooner here engaging in banter like everyone else.He’s not in a classroom with kids. He’s engaging in mature conversations with adults who give as much as they take.
    What do you do for a living? Tell us so wee can start knocking you with your employment every time we disagree with you.

  30. Don

    Marko

    Nope. Not making out I’m a tough guy. But I have a certain amount of pride in my British heritage and I’ll defend it how I see fit. Highlighting that we have 6 muslims in the side is hardly akin to nazism? Now can we drop this as I don’t want to keep getting suckered into politics
    Just wanted bob to be aware that his boys are just as represented in this current “shit” arsenal side as the English core. That’s all. Bob is a big boy and he doesn’t need you to put your tuppence worth in

  31. Don

    Apologies it’s just so hard to make an idiot understand basic English. It’s tough getting through to a stupid person

    Haha. Ok. Says the intellectual of intellectuals.
    Tell me Marko? How did Man U climb from 1st to 7th and regale us on their scintillating football along the way from 7th to 6th

  32. TitsMcGee

    Yes. Because I’m not a pansy. I won’t let Some intruder slate my county or country men. ”

    Jesus how old are you?

  33. arsene's used sock

    arsenal fans (very important we establish that everyone is a fan of arsenal if they are here) talk about other clubs because they have projects in place that are actually producing progress.
    project youth was great for us because we could see progress, everything since has been a steady fucking decline the likes of which no one would have ever imagined.

    mistakes were excusable back then because it was all new to us and the prospects we had coming through.
    now though…fuck me, what’s the fucking excuse?
    we have money, can’t use that one anymore.
    we have an incredibly stable squad, same coaching staff for the most part, a board that as far as I can see is giving arsene the freedom to do whatever he wants (no sane board would have allowed the contract situation with alexis to boil over for 6 more months just to lose him after he’s destabilised the team)

    what’s the excuse at this point?
    lost to Nottingham, ok we were playing kids…so were they.
    lost to Bournemouth….
    I can’t even recall the other losses through the years but they’ve pretty much all been shocking.
    the only thing I can recall with any sort of accuracy was the 10-2 drubbing bayern gave us.
    fucking 8-2 to united.
    garbage
    its all fucking garbage, how arsene can still be in the job tomorrow morning is beyond me.
    move him upstairs for optics and take away all his control if you must be sentimental, get him the fuck away from the team though.

  34. Don

    Plus you and your ilk are constantly misrepresenting what people here do say about a United or a Spurs. For you it is simply unacceptable that anyone here ever say anything positive about another club. For me this is an old, outdated, provincial and irrational approach to the game.

    Bam ford
    Utter nonsense
    I have been effusive in my praise for spurs and united in the summer and now city since their runway league position. For pep and the way he has galvanized that city squad

    I have no problem in praising other sides but I am only asking for consistency.
    I could spider myself one of the more positive posters here but right now we are dog shit. Worst side we have had since we sold rvp.
    This team has no right to praise. However, if untied were praised for the season they had last season then I feel that if arsenal replicate that season then the usual suspects should praise arsenal too.

  35. Bob

    Don or dog why bring in muslim? You can be English and still be muslim what’s religion got to do with football? I don’t like a player I back it with staus and facts simple.

  36. Cart

    “Yes. What’s your point? That it’s rude to point out that we have 6 Muslims in the team as well as 6 english players?
    Like I said it wasn’t derogatory but the blame should be apportioned equally. Not just assigned to the English players.”

    WTF is this shit.

  37. Dolomite

    Nice one Arsenes Used sock

    The point you made is so true, there are no TANGIBLE EXCUSES

    Wenger does not know how to resolve anything yet he has all the resources at his disposal

  38. Wenker-wanger

    Arsenal fan TV, most comments saying there’s no big disappointment in losing anymore……Wenger’s legacy is hitting new lows each week.

  39. TR7

    Dissenter

    I have never talked about Bamford’s education or profession. Obsessed? I could not care less.

    This was my first ever comment on his profession and it was anyway more about his behavior than his profession. It’s not like you never diss somebody for his tone or behavior.

    Anyway I will keep Tits suggestion in mind and ignore his comments.

  40. Don

    Bob

    It’s just another demographic within the team I’ve highlighted. Just to Demonstrate that the core of arsenal is not exactly english.
    That’s why.

  41. Bob

    @GuillemBalague
    Alexis Sanchez not fully agreed yet. United favourites and next 2-3 days key (nobody takes City out of equation yet). Meanwhile Arsenal want to close soon deal for Aubameyang, left out of squad today, for €60m
    Hope they give him the no.10 shirt

  42. Bay Area gooner

    This is a very hostile website at times . we all want the same thing for Arsenal to win! so maybe we should all try and be civil with each other?!

    What a concept?

  43. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘I don’t like a player, I back it with status and facts simple.’

    Lol. Bob’s gotta be Redtruth’s son. Little baby Ruth.

  44. Gooner63

    I think the two games today just showed where the issue is and has been for years

    Arsenal struggled to match Bournemouth, and once conceded just fell apart, the whole game same as most games we just look like we have no real interest, no desire and no ideas.

    Klopps liverpool were fired up, in citys faces, chasing, winning, knew how to play through citys 1 man defensive midfield and blocked citys wingers/wingbacks

    1 team who have given up on their manager, 1 team who believe 100% they are as good as city.

    The 1 big image for me from today – although hes playing shite – was seeing Xhaka standing in the middle of the pitch at the end of the game, looking desolate like we had just lost the Champions League final.

    For me the look of a player who cant believe that their is no manager to organise this lot.

    This club is gonna need a lot of investment both time and financially to get back.

    Right now we dont have a manager or owner who can provide that

  45. Bay Area gooner

    It’ll be interesting to see which player joins the team this month if that will be a wenger or Sven pick. Might be telling

  46. Wenker-wanger

    Haha any top quality player wanting to play for ?
    Surely not.
    Would you?
    If we sign top quality players then they must know Wenger is on his sorry way out of the club.

  47. Relieable Sauce

    Numbnut Arsene-al fan on 606 took the positives from the game by suggesting Eddie Howe should replace wenger…when he decides to go.

    Not much hope with fans like this.

  48. alexanderhenry

    WW

    Disagree on wenger being a ‘bystander’ during the title winning years.
    Yes, wenger inherited the back four but most successful managers inherit decent squads.

    Guardiola inherited Messi, Xavi, iniesta.
    Mourinho inherited Terry, Lampard, Makelele.
    Ancelotti has only ever worked with top players.

    Managers can lose it and they often do. It can be down to age, complacency, not keeping up with changes in the game, or other factors. Wenger has lost it. No question.

    We’re all fed up with him but that doesn’t mean we should rewrite history and disparage his past achievements. They are after all Arsenal fc’s achievements.
    No need to shit on your own doorstep.

  49. Frankie Coffeecakes

    “malcom will sign in the next few days followed by Aubameyang…”

    Where are you getting this information, Pierre? Or is this your own wish list?

  50. TitsMcGee

    Aubamayeng? I’ll believe that when I see it. Ballague likes to throw shiiiit against the wall to see what sticks.

    Not that us signing anyone at this point is going to move the dial on Wenger.

  51. Marko

    Couldn’t give two shits about Malcom and Aubameyang with Wenger still in charge. Besides will they help with us being utterly pathetic in midfield and defence? No?

  52. Cart

    Aumbameyang wasn’t present in BVB’s draw against Wolfsburg this evening…

    As for both Malcom and Auba, why either would want to sign for Arsenal UNDER WENGER is beyond me.

    Yes – having your basic salary quadrupled and being given a hefty sign-on fee is usually the sweetener, I guess.

  53. Pierre

    Samesong
    Could have easily been given not that it mattered in the end.

    Of course if you want to look at another really important game changing decision then mention the foul on Welbeck when he was running onto a through ball from lacazette in the 2nd half…although, not Surprisingly, the commentators didn’t make a big deal out the fact that his arm/elbow made contact with welbecks face and he would have had a clear run at goal, but they made a big deal of the incident with the ball that glanced iwobi’s arm.

    But lets just talk about the ball striking iwobi’s arm.

  54. Cesc Appeal

    Notice how sneaky f**ks like that Ty bellend when pressed on why he still backs Wenger says ‘I will always back the manager, I will always back the club, what else am I going to do?’

    Wenger and the club, the same thing in the eyes of his type.

    If you back the club you should be trying to f**k Wenger off, Wenger does not back the club he backs himself, and Wenger is literally destroying the club. It is not hyperbole to say that anymore, he is resisting change off the field and cannot manage what happens on it.

  55. Wenker-wanger

    Alex. You are an intelligent man…it’s obvious..and I mean that as a compliment.
    However your view of Wenger’s potency during the successful years is not one I share and as for the comment shifting in he doorstep…it’s a pretty unconnected analogy.
    I believe you meant that by disparaging Wenger I’m disparaging arsenal….. No mate 2 separate things.
    Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.

  56. alexanderhenry

    Bay area Gooner

    Well said.

    Nothing wrong with a bit of cut and thrust banter, but some posters come on here looking to pick fights. They try and drag you into arguments.

    It’s the bully’s mentality and like with all bullies, these people’s attitudes often mask deep insecurities.

    It’s all a bit sad and vaguely creepy.

    Best to ignore them.

  57. Rambo Ramsey

    Cesc, a case of fans reflecting the club. Notice how the big money signings’ stories are wheeled out moments after an embarrassing defeat? So transparent.

  58. Dolomite

    Marko
    January 14, 2018 19:09:07
    Couldn’t give two shits about Malcom and Aubameyang with Wenger still in charge. Besides will they help with us being utterly pathetic in midfield and defence? No?

    Exactly Marko….. unless either player can LEAD the entire team with Wenger in charge aint a damn thing changed….!

  59. Marko

    Alexander I must say you’re fast becoming one of my favourite posters man. You’re much more measured these days

  60. NEEG

    Wenger already knows he is out of a job at the end of the season unless he delivers Champions league football for next season – that is in his contract and he obviously thought he had a chance. He had hoped the want away stars would extend their contracts if he was successful – he does after all believe he is the messiah of football. Will he fall on his sword – for his sake he no longer manages in Japan.

  61. Wenker-wanger

    @ cesc.
    Do you find it exasperating that fans cannot separate Wenger and arsenal?
    I really don’t get it.
    Your view that he is destroying the club isn’t over-stating his damage.
    How do you view his input during the successful years?

  62. alexanderhenry

    WW

    ‘I believe you meant that by disparaging Wenger I’m disparaging arsenal’.

    Yes, but only by refusing to give him any credit for the title winning seasons.
    I can’t think of any other of fans who when reminiscing about a trophy winning season, would also insist that it had nothing to do with the manager.
    It’s quite an odd position to take.

    As I’ve said before I am a moderate where Wenger is concerned. Back then he was an excellent manager, now he is a shit manager. It happens in football.

    We’ll have to agree to disagree here.

    Note: You see le grovers. I’ve disagreed with WW without resorting to insults or asking him to get banned.

  63. alexanderhenry

    Marko

    Thanks mate but what about now? I just posted something that shows Wenger in a positive light..don’t hate me.

  64. TitsMcGee

    ‘I will always back the manager, I will always back the club, what else am I going to do?’

    The epitome of the average Arsenal fan.

    Too afraid of the big bad “unknown “.

  65. Don

    Marko

    Says this
    Still sticking to that narrative Pierre? You’re such a slimy shit you know that

    Then lauds Alexander Henry for denouncing the abuse mentality on le grove.

    Hmmmm.
    One word
    Dim

  66. Frankie Coffeecakes

    Agreed Alexander, you take the good with the bad when it comes to Wenger.

    He should have left after beating Hull in the FA Cup. People would remember good times and likely forgive some of the lean years. Now, now it’s all about damage, to both the team and his legacy. What still strikes me is that he honestly can’t fathom a life after football – how utterly insular.

  67. Marko

    Aim your “slimy shit” Comment at samesong as he brought up the narrative of refs decisions.

    Yeah but you answered an obvious decision that went our way that shouldn’t with a situation that wasn’t even remotely close to being the same thing. You are disingenuous in your commentary and biased.

  68. Hitman

    A couple more defeats and he has got to go? Surely? The strangest thing of all is the lack of media pressure his sacking over the last few years. Any other manager, and the media would have been baying for blood ages ago.

  69. HighburyLegend

    “IT’S ZE REF’S FAULT!!”

    Oooppsssss sorry, just woke up from a bad dream.

    Don is back ?? Wonderful…

  70. TitsMcGee

    As for both Malcom and Auba, why either would want to sign for Arsenal UNDER WENGER is beyond me.”

    Hard to fathom anyone with promise coming here at te moment. 6th place 8 points behind our promised land. Players jumping off the ship.

    Malcom I am not impressed by anyway. Another technical midget that addresses nada.

  71. Marko

    Thanks mate but what about now? I just posted something that shows Wenger in a positive light..don’t hate me.

    All you said was when he was properly successful in the early years he should be given credit which is fair enough. Been a long long time since he was a good competent manager though which is something we agree upon. Probably disagree with how long since but that’s okay

  72. Pierre

    Wenker wanger
    I am in agreement with you regarding players like Tony adams and the influence they have in the club… When adams retired, fortunately for Wenger we had Vieira to take over his mantle but since he left we have not had a dominant figure in the changing room…

    I believe Chelsea will suffer the same fate now that john Terry has left… He was still an important influence last season despite not playing regularly.

  73. HighburyLegend

    Are we still in ze race for the 4th spot trophy ??

    Any pityfull excuses from le specialist in senility yet ??

  74. TitsMcGee

    Wenger does not back the club he backs himself, and Wenger is literally destroying the club”

    Yep. It so funny to see the silly sods like Ty fawn over the guy when Wenger is greedily just fleecing us.

    He’s crashing and burning and taking us with him.

  75. alexanderhenry

    Frankie

    We’re very bad on the pitch at the moment but actually it’s what’s going on off it that is more significant for me.

    1) Sanchez, Ozil and maybe Wilshire about to walk for nothing or a bargain price
    2) Ox leaving for Liverpool for a lower wage
    3) Ramsay, Wellbeck and others still haven’t committed
    4) The decision to purchase Xhaka and Lacazette
    5) The way Wenger behaved when ‘deciding’ whether to sign another contract
    6) The fact that the decision was taken with no involvement from the BOD

    All this points to Wenger having completely lost control of the club ,highlights to what extent he is in control of it and also shows that he has lost his sense of perspective.
    He is the manager of Arsenal and an employee. It’s not his club. He is also accountable to the fans primarily but he seems to have forgotten that.

  76. Don

    Tits

    We could do with a technical midget
    This team is so UN technical now
    Sanchez isn’t technical
    Neither is Lacazette
    Neither is iwobi

    We only have ozil and Wilshere

  77. Pierre

    Marko
    “.Yeah but you answered an obvious decision that went our way that shouldn’t with a situation that wasn’t even remotely close to being the same thing. You are disingenuous in your commentary and biased.”

    There was a decision that I Agreed went our way and a decision that didn’t go our way… Whats your problem..

    Have a day off from acting dim

  78. Marc

    Arsenal will never sack Wenger, anyone thinking this or praying for it are deluding themselves. With the way things are Wenger will “retire” in the summer, the club is making major moves for life after Wenger and as far as I’m concerned they look like ambitious moves.

    We just have to sit back and see out the next 5 months.

  79. alexanderhenry

    Cesc

    ‘Wenger is literally destroying the club’

    Well, he’s being allowed to.

    A very straightforward decision could be made..tomorrow.. by our illustrious owner.

    Get rid of Wenger, employ a top coach, give that coach some serious money to spend. It’s actually quite simple.

  80. Don

    Pierre
    Have a day off from acting dim

    He brings it on himself.
    Honestly. I never actually address marko when I first get on le grove.(Watch out for this) I’ll leave my first comment or two and he will come slithering in for a little nibble.
    Every single time
    Then gets the hump when you mug him off.
    Total fanny wipe that fella

  81. Ishola70

    As others have said bit wary to put Xhaka and Lacazette in the same bracket for poor signings.

    Let’s be clear. Xhaka has been an abomination of a signing and Arsenal’s main problem in the team really stems from midfield and lacking balance.

    Lacazette on the other hand has been a disappointing signing. Not in the same shit category as Xhaka.

  82. Dissenter

    Alexander
    Thanks for your perspective.
    I remember you being cool under pressure even when you espoused positions the weren’t popular here.
    Wenger has lost his way, the way absolute power can be corrupting. He keeps talking about honor and values when it’s clear it’s all about him.
    He left everything that mattered to him for Arsenal and won’t let go until he’s kicked out in disgrace.
    It’s going to get worse this season. I really think he will get fired because he’s cost the club a lot of money with his mistakes.

  83. NEEG

    AH
    You have summed it up reasonably well. Wenger employed enough talent in the past to achieve the barest minimum for both the owners and supporters.

    He has now been overtaken and to reach expected levels is beyond him. He could buy his way into the level required but it would go against his principles.

  84. Pierre

    Don
    Correct

    I said yesterday we have half a team who take care of the ball and half a team who are wasteful in possession and until we go back to having a team with all players having a good technique then we will continue to keep giving the ball away which will invariably put more pressure on our defence.

    I don’t give a shit how small they are…. Messi, hazard are not exactly giants are they

  85. Marc

    Jesus the level of unbalanced opinion on here is getting beyond ridiculous. Rollen has just made a comment that if Wenger doesn’t go in the summer we’ll be in a relegation battle next season.

    I’d just like to point out that we’re 5 points behind the Spud’s who are generally viewed as being a great team.

    Get a fucking grip everyone.

  86. seniorgooner

    WHY NOT GO FOR MAHREZ HE KNOWS THE EPL AND IS A PROVEN GOAL SCORER AND A REAL WINGER. MALCOLM WILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM AS LACAZETTE TAKES MONTHS TO GET USED TOM THE EPL. WE ARE GOING TO NEED A REAL REBUILD CZECH MONREAL AND KOSCELNHY ARE ALL ON THEIR LAST LEGS SO A NEW MANAGER WILL FACE AN UPHILL BATTLE

  87. MrT

    We have fuc%ing lost it as a club!!! Fuc%ing useless!! I donk give a Fuc% if our players are English, Muslims, Africans, potato heads or worship the flying spaghetti monster….I just want to win or at the very least see a team worthy of winning. What English, Muslim got to do with anything. S#it is S#it no matter what it wears or whos ass it comes from. Wenger out!!!

  88. Cesc Appeal

    Alexander

    I think part of the attraction to Arsenal for Kroenke was Wenger, the fact that he thought he could just allow Wenger to get on with it.

    I think that is changing now, Mislintat and Sanllehi would have needed to be signed off by Kroenke and I think that is him trying to appease Gazidis after he was embarrassed in the summer.

    What is sad is the fan base don’t give a s**t anymore, they are all just waiting for Wenger to f**k off before becoming invested again.

    Did not even bother watching the game today, just waited for the Liverpool game, don’t care when we win, don’t care when we lose, don’t care when we draw. It is all pointless.

    That is now common in the fan base, the club cannot survive with that.

    Wenger is a shameless pig, blame Kroenke and he fully deserves blame, but Wenger is a f*****g pig.

  89. Ishola70

    lol Spurs a great team?

    Wenger is trailing badly behind clubs that are not even close to being real top sides.

    How anyone cannot fathom what is going on here by just glancing at the league table and looking at the goals scored and against columns is beyond comprehension.

    It’s quite simple. Liverpool have problems defensively but are outscoring Arsenal quite comfortably. Spurs, Man United and Chelsea have much more stable defences.

    Arsenal do not have the firepower offensively anymore to do a Liverpool and conceded lots but score plenty. And as long ad Granit Xhaka is one of the first names on Wenger’s teamsheet the defensive problems are not going to go away either.

  90. Don

    Marc

    You’re right. The comments are very unbalanced. But we still need a new manager with a new vision. Someone that can Impliment a definsive structure that works and someone to galvanize the players. These new age footballers can’t seem to motivate themselves like the old school used to. So they need to be micro managed
    Hence the rise of pep and Jose.

  91. shaun ellis

    it’s an absolute disgrace the way this arsenal team is setup no backbone at all, we have no real talent apart from ozil and sanchez who are leaving I am still struggling with the fact we are paying walcott £140000 a week for sitting on the bench the mismanagement is unreal

  92. TitsMcGee

    “Were only 5pts behind Burnley who are considered an organised team”

    Lol

    It’samazing the lengths people will go to to defend Wenger. The standards always get reframed in an attempt to dress up his failings.

  93. alexanderhenry

    Dissenter

    Maybe, maybe…

    Many think that Kroenke would never fire wenger but this season is different.
    In the past despite the trophy drought and increased discontent amongst fans Wenger always ran a tight ship financially.

    That’s enough for Stan. He’s happy to let his teams muddle along as long as they don’t over commit financially and he doesn’t have to get too involved.
    He can happily spend his time shooting squirrels on one of his ranches or go toupee shopping.

    But, how will he react when Sanchez and /or Ozil walk for nothing and arsenal are not in the CL for a second season?
    It’ll be interesting.

  94. TitsMcGee

    Walcott on 140k (I heard 110 this week somewhere ) is the biggest joke in football. What a waste of money. If we are honest he probably won’t ever play at a “big” club again and has no business being here for as long as he has been.

    Sorry to say but you can see Welbeck being the same thing. It doesn’t take a decade for a player to come good. They are who they are at about 25.

  95. Wenker-wanger

    Arsenal will never face a relegation battle. They have money to burn and would if push came to shove throw money in a January window to buy their way out of the bottom three.
    As incompetent as Wenger is, even he would be able to bolster a squad to beat the drop.
    Running to stand still springs to mind.

  96. E54_

    But, how will he react when Sanchez and /or Ozil walk for nothing and arsenal are not in the CL for a second season?
    It’ll be interesting.
    /
    So you agree, Arsenal losing as much as possible would be beneficial to Arsenals long term success. Lose more, Stan fires Wenger, get a new manager, start using our resources properly and adequately.

  97. Wenker-wanger

    @AH, agree that kroenke is money-mad…. It’s his porn I think. When Wenger loses him money, then I would assume he will drop Wenger like a hot potato.

  98. raptora

    WW:”Those trophies were won by a fantastic core of winning mentality and leadership on the field, with Tony Adams the main driving force.”

    Look, in general I agree. But to the point that it almost always is all about the players you have. If Wenger had success in the market recently, we would have never been in the position we are at this moment. Almost all of his buys in the last years have been terrible. You have Alexis and Ozil and both of them will always be good buys. The youth academy has failed. The low money transfers have not worked. The huge list of bad buys in the region of 10 to 20m pounds each, which was considered a very reasonable sum before this window, like Debuchy, Gabriel, Chambers, Welbeck, Elneny, Cech, Lukas Perez. All of them had to be the core of next years, all failed miserably. Then we reach the huge transfers of Mustafi, Xhaka, Lacazette, who were supposed to be players with the influence of Alexis and Ozil, and they are anything but that.

    Thing is that you cannot have a good attack if you don’t spend a lot of money. Only spuds of the teams at the moment have achieved that but it will hit them hard when their players are gone and they have to find good alternatives. Anyways, when you are going in a game with Iwobi, Welbeck and the bad purchase Lacazette, you cannot expect to play like elite team would.

    When you buy players like Sterling, Sane, Jesus with Aguero already in the team and then Mane, Salah and before that Firmino, it’s incomparable.

    But it’s not only in attack. You have to be good in the midfield as well and has probably been our weakest place for years and years.

    All in all, I believe that having top players helps so much that it’s super important that makes a top team be mostly a top team because it has top players. Just look at Brendan Rodgers who almost won the league with prime Suarez and a fading Stevie G. Problem is that Wenger, bar getting worse by the year, got super bad in his transfers as well. That’s what is going to cost him in the end. Cause he would have been able to get top 4’s every year if he had bought well.

  99. Dissenter

    Just wanted to mention that Kroenke’s wealth probably increased exponentially due to the recent tax give away Dotard Trump just signed.
    He needs Arsenal’s money less.
    I really think he knows Wenger is burned out. He would have heard from the BoD and Gazidis all through last season.

  100. Cart

    Tits

    I’ve had the pleasure of watching Malcom a few times on BT Sport. Now there’s a tidy player in there, some where. But he is not the answer to Sanchez’s impending departure,

    Buying Malcom should be something you do while bringing in several otherss

  101. raptora

    The thing that I find very laughable if not sad, is that before we were called “a selling club” we all wanted it to change. Now that it changed, it’s not because the club refuses to sell their stars, it’s because there are no more star players in the club.

  102. Cesc Appeal

    We should just sell Sanchez and Walcott, bank the £55 Million, f**k Wenger off in the summer and then go for Fekir under a new manager.

    Great talent and will also maximise our £50 Million investment in Lacazette.

  103. Gooner63

    Raptora

    “The thing that I find very laughable if not sad, is that before we were called “a selling club” we all wanted it to change. Now that it changed, it’s not because the club refuses to sell their stars, it’s because there are no more star players in the club.”

    This is the whole point, a total downward spiral

    Failure to bring in the quality players we need to address problem areas
    Failure to maintain a level that gets us at least top 4
    Failure to move with the times in terms of management
    Failure to use tactics to win or not lose matches
    Failure to motivate players
    Failure to actually train players properly (this has been stated by ex players)

    At the end of the day all these failures stop with one man – the manager

    There are only 2 reasons

    1. He has been left behind and should have walked or 2 He sold out to Kroenkes money making to keep his job

    Either way he has betrayed the club and shouldnt be defended in any way

  104. TitsMcGee

    Buying Malcom should be something you do while bringing in several otherss”

    He’s a commodity not a necessity. Just more proof that Wenger has ZERO clue how to remedy/unfoook this situation. Tat signing would reek of “close my eyes and pick one”.

  105. Marc

    Gooner63

    I’m not saying Wenger should stay, my comment never said that at all. My point is some of the posters on here are so daft it actually gives AKB’s ammo. I can’t see him surviving this season what we should be debating is who should we replace him with not “I hate Wenger more than you” comments.

  106. raptora

    I don’t know about our chances when buying attacking players from Ligue 1. We’ve had Gervinho, Chamakh, Giroud, All not good enough to start in a top team. Then we look at players like Boufal and Ben Arfa, both of which very popular in Arsenal blogs, both of them have not done well in England. Of course you have Hazard, Mahrez and Payet on the other side, all of them have been a huge success in the EPL. With Lacazette already struggling to make any impact in our team, coming from France with an extremely stellar career, Malcom or Fekir could as well not impress as much as we think they will. Future will tell.

  107. Cart

    “He’s a commodity not a necessity. Just more proof that Wenger has ZERO clue how to remedy/unfoook this situation. Tat signing would reek of “close my eyes and pick on”

    I agree with this.

    All we have to do is go back to 2013: Higuain > Suarez > Ozil.

    Throw shit, hope it sticks.

  108. Cesc Appeal

    Raptora

    A start to making sure they impress would be having a modern manager under pressure to deliver and a modernising of our ridiculously bad coaching staff.

    That is why my preference is banking money and f*****g Wenger off, I do not want to see a player come in with that pig here. Completely pointless and unfair on the player.

  109. Dissenter

    Cesc
    It’s more important to get good young players with the new scouting set-up and lock them into long term contracts, even with Wenger still fu**Ing around.
    That 55 million won’t but much in the summer due to inflation.
    The new manager will have a better chance with good players, however bad habits they may have acquired under Wenger.

  110. Wenker-wanger

    Redruth, hope you weren’t referring to me as a comedic fan!
    I was replying to a fan that considered arsenal in a relegation battle next season..
    Just thought I would explain that it couldn’t happen even with Wenger in charge.

  111. Samesong

    Pierre

    Called that decision earlier straight away that should of been a red card to cook I think it was. Blatant use of the elbow.

  112. Howard

    Its the manager. He’s lost everything except money flowing into his pocket. The big mistake was selling club to Kroenke because he won’t sack Wenger and Wenger will honour his contract unless sacked.

    So we’re stuck with Wenger till 2019 when probably he’ll have another two years extension. We’re stuck with him till we’re relegated.

    He and his supporters claim he made Arsenal what it is so he has the right to destroy it before he leaves

  113. Samesong

    And Pierre don’t aim no comments my way your the le groves ref adjudicator. But glad you cleared up the Iwobi case. As it was a blatant handball.

  114. Bay Area gooner

    Alexander Henry

    I respect all posters on here. If you think the sky is green, sun is blue and eboue and squillaci are the best gooners cod all time then so be it. I humbly disagree but support you ability to voice you opinion

    I think that what we need is a pizza. That tends to work wonders with angry ppl.

    Or some good weed, wine or beer.

  115. Bay Area gooner

    I suggest that the next arsenal match folks order or pick up a nice pizza. Eat that motherfucker and it should help matters when we capitulate

    All I know is that we are closer to his demise friends and fiends

    Arsenal will go on and once the bully dictator is gone more power to us.

  116. Dissenter

    Bay Area gooner
    It will be the board of directors formally with Kroenke’s say-so. Wenger has isolated himself and doesn’t give a damn these days. The way he talks suggests that he thinks he’s the club.

  117. Gooner63

    Good to see Aubameyang is just what we need – focused , disciplined

    “The striker had been in fine form during the club’s winter break in Marbella, but was omitted from the lineup for the clash at the Westfalenstadion.

    Dortmund chief Peter Stoger stated that the decision had been made for “disciplinary reasons”, after Aubameyang skipped a team meeting on Saturday.

    It is the third time in little more than 12 months that Aubameyang has been disciplined by the club in such a manner.”

  118. graham62

    Arsenal should make a decision tomorrow.

    Sack Wenger.

    Get new coach in.

    If it was only that simple…………………………Actually, it is!

  119. Gooner63

    Graham

    “If it was only that simple…………………………Actually, it is!”

    Clubs excuse will be – But we would have to pay wenger £15mill still – thats a hell of a lot of money we would lose

    Despite the upto a £100mill lost on Alexis/Ozil during the summer

  120. Cart

    Graham

    inexplicably, Wenger seems to have Arsenal by the sack.

    I don’t even think Bould believes he should continue as manager. Self preservation at it’s finest.