Spanish super kid lined up to support, or replace?

by .

Processed with VSCO with c1 preset

Processed with VSCO with c1 preset

I saw Dunkirk yesterday and it is EXCEPTIONAL. Made me want to quit my job, go back 75 years, just so I could hang with Harry Styles and ask where he got his haircut. Go and see it, the hype is justified, even better in 70mm.

Talking of HYPE, let’s jump straight into the rumour that Arsenal are interested in signing Real Madrid’s great white hope… Asensio. I mean, I love the rumour. The kid is mustard, and the circumstances could make sense, because it’s hard to get a game even when you’re one of the brightest prospects in Spain. It’s a no lose situation for Madrid, as they have the same boomerang pull as Barca. They could sell him to us for £50m and buy him back for £12m in 4 years time after another famous contract cock up.

He’d be a superb piece of business. He has the dribbling ability of Santi Cazorla, bags of magic and his pace is pretty damn impressive. An upgrade on Alexis? No. A risk? Yes. But give me precocious young talent all day long.

In transfer news, Wenger continues to either put his foot down on poor old Alexis, or he is baiting PSG. He hilariously said that the French club are talking about Neymar now because they couldn’t land the Chilean. Brilliant banter. It does seem to look like Wenger is playing the long game with Alexis. Whatever you think about his fitness, as soon as he hits 29, he becomes less appealing and less worthy of a £400k a week contract. That’ll make it more likely we could sign him.

As for Ozil, the chat points to him landing £280k a week. I think we’re overpaying him on that sort of money and I’m convinced no other club in Europe would go past £200k a week. He’s an important player, just a shame he can’t be important all the time. Maybe our new formation will suit him better this year. Maybe he’ll connect with Lacazette like marmite and peanut butter (it’s good, try it). Maybe Wenger has the keys to the future of football in his hands and we just don’t know it.

I’m still not sure though.

I just can’t move past this idea that we were two players away from dominating the CL and PL last year. We’ve not moved on the ‘ok’ players that bring down the collective quality and winnertivity of the squad. We’ve not addressed our midfield troubles. It’s early doors, but we had to rely on Giroud to pep our game up against Chelsea, we’re like the guy who sacks in his safe girlfriend to chase the glamour, only to keep returning to the one that makes it really happen. We don’t have a particularly physical midfield, unless you want to see Coquelin flying around like a lunatic all year. Xhaka is slow and weak, and that really does count in a league that gives you zero time on the ball.

We haven’t made a bold statement this summer. Which to me says this… Wenger hasn’t come to terms with last season. He thinks our demise was a blip. Bad luck. Unfortunate happenings.

If he really had a grasp on what our problems were, we’d have taken a more aggressive approach this summer.

We’ll see though, I don’t think it’ll take past October to see what we have on the cards this year.

Right, recording the podcast again this week. Getting back in the mix. No more travelling for me for a while. So I’m gonna be in your inbox a lot more regularly!

Speak tomorrow x

295 Responses to “Spanish super kid lined up to support, or replace?”

Jump to comment form ↓

  1. Leftsidesanch

    lol yeah marmite and p.butter sounds like a weird combination doesn’t it.

    Almost as weird as AFC taking the necessary steps during the break to actually be prepared for the upcoming season.

  2. DM

    Pedro

    All the years I’ve been commenting on here and that’s the first time you’ve ever replied to me!

    For that alone, I’ll give it a try 😀

  3. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    I watched also Dunkirk yesterday in NW3.

    Interesting film with mixed reviews. Not quite on the same level as Battle of
    Britain, which I was fortunate to see at the Film Premiere.

    Nevertheless does provide some insight in how precarious the allies situation
    was and the probability that the war would probably have been lost, but for the
    successful evacuation.

  4. DaleDaGooner

    So Chelsea the racist club went to China and deployed agent Kennedy…….we lost the game at least we had way more class!

  5. jwl

    Wenger will never realize that problem is him and things need to change drastically because his over sized ego will protect him and convince himself he’s best. Our brains protect us from our worst actions, faults.

  6. Do one gambon

    Why would anyone take something as awesome as peanut butter and destroy it with Marmite. Can’t get my head round that one, but hey ho different stroke of different folk.

    I mean red truth likes the taste of windows after all 🙂

    Asensio – yes please.

  7. Carts

    “Mendy (LB) – 52m
    Walker (RB) – 54m
    Bernardo Silva (CM) – 43m
    Ederson (GK) – 34m
    Danilo (RB) – 26m
    Luiz(CM) – 10m”

    So far their outlay is £204m

    They’ve also recouped £35m from Kolarov, Nolito, Unal, Mooy, Hart and Sobriano.

    Net spend = £170m they could easily raise at least further £60m from

    Delph – £10m
    Iheanacho – £20m
    Bony – £10m
    Nasri – £10m
    Fernando – £8m
    Denayer – £5m
    Mangala -£15m

  8. Cesc Appeal

    Looking forward to seeing Dunkirk, heard great things. Not a chapter of WWII that is often explored, the Na*i war machine steamrolling over Europe, pushing the British expeditionary force into the sea basically.

    That evacuation and the people taking part in it along with the shield provided by the Royal Navy which dissuaded Na*i generals from pushing on with the invasion of Britain basically saved us, and likely Europe.

  9. DaleDaGooner

    Wenger is a dick for taking the number 9 shirt from Perez without telling him before. He’s an even bigger dick for not even playing him enough. Why I can’t stand players like Ramsey and a few others who don’t deserve to start but keep getting games even if it means they are forced into the wrong position. Why wasn’t Perez playing more last season??? Wenger is really the problem we have….

  10. Wallace

    not my favourite, but I really like Denis Villeneuve’s films. eager to see what he does with the new Blade Runner.

  11. Skinnywill

    I am so fed up with the Sanchez / Ozil / Oxlade Chamberlain contract saga’s. The club knows how damaging these scenarios can be (just look at the effect of Wenger’s contract last year). I personally would give them 14 days to sign a new contract and if not sell them to the highest bidder and get the best replacements we can.

    This won’t happen as Wenger will be seen as a hypocrite following his contract delays which is why he wont enforce it. I really feel a further 12 months of this will he / wont he sign will effect our season.

  12. Cesc Appeal

    Apparently Antalyaspor are concerned they cannot meet Arsenal’s asking price. Whatever they offer we should just take and run.

    Have my doubts over whether Wilshere will actually agree to the move though.

  13. DaleDaGooner

    Thomas Lemar getting more expenssive, Arsenal dithering won’t help, we are already at a disadvantage with Sanchez, Oxlade-Chamberlain fiasco. sell Sanchez to PSG and if he’s being a dick about it, take 70m from City and invest in the squad! Sell Ox off as well, if he’s also angling for Chelsea only, take Matic in return! Both will be a punch in the gut, but I’d take 70m for Sanchez from City and get in Lemar AND Mahrez! Get Matic and we’re good to go. Would be nice to bring in Van Dijk, but I doubt he wants to come to us, would also cost a lot.

  14. DaleDaGooner

    We are in a pool of shit press wise. The whole Perez thing is pissing me off! I said all through last season that Perez wasn’t treated nice. The fact that Wenger waited for Welbeck to be fit despite Lucas Perez showing he owns that spot, that was low, Wenger owns all these contract issues we’re now facing. People go on about Chuba Akpom…but I reckon he’s still better that Welbeck or Walcott if he were given the same type of chances.

  15. DaleDaGooner

    Ramsey taking the spot of better fitting CM like El Neny and Coquelin, I know Pedro detests Coquelin, But only place I see Ramsey play is in the position that may open up when Sanchez leaves, but you won’t ever get the work rate or goals that position used to have….so where does Ramsey really fit? Sure isn’t next to Xhaka!

  16. Marko

    not my favourite, but I really like Denis Villeneuve’s films.

    He’s brilliant too. Nolan the Coen’s are the most consistent film makers about these days

  17. leon

    In my opinion Danny Welbeck is another who should be sold not Lucas Pares who in my opinion is much more clinical finisher and every time has played has looked a threat another player who has been pushed out is another I really like is Joel Chambell for Thoe Walcott that I will never understand that , we let Sergey Granarby go . And I guarantee there is at 8 players who 24 months left on there contract or less. This just another example that the people at this club are just not on the ball at all. And down the road Totenham have better players than use and have paid much less money and there wage is allot less than ours.

  18. Bamford10

    Dale

    The problem is that neither Ramsey, nor Elneny, nor Coquelin is good enough — and frankly neither is Xhaka.

    If we are talking about which pairing is best, I guess I might say Xhaka-Ramsey, maybe, but the more important point IMO is that NONE of those pairings is good enough or properly balanced.

  19. Daz

    Terry Gilliam is a cool director love his style Brazil such a good film imo, I’d be lying if i didn’t say De Niro was my all time favourite actor and Scorsese favourite director but the list of greats is quite long

  20. Wallace

    finding City’s summer splurge a little sickening. I love Pep’s approach to the game, but feel like any success he has this season will have been to a large extent bought.

  21. Don

    Planet of the apes

    Just saw it today

    Was a solid film and better than most of the junk I’ve seen this year but not as good as the first two in the trilogy

  22. Igbo

    It is unfortunate about Perez. He did not even get a chance to prove what he is capable of. But I do not know why he is upset about the jersey. Apparently, itvwas agreed he would be sold after he made clear that he wanted out. He did not believe it could get any better than last season. For which reason he was not even taken on the tour. The only reason he is not gone is fees. Why do we have to reserve the jersey number of a player that is sure to be gone next season? Imagine Debuchy and Jenkinson bickering about their jersey.

  23. Samir

    Why didn’t we raid Malaga for these players, absolute bargain prices. All could have done a great job for us.

    Camacho – £13M
    Pablo Fornals – £10M
    Sandro – £5M

    Then there is:
    Douglas Costa – €6M loan
    Bernardeschi – €40M
    Bernardo Silva £43M
    Bakayoko -£40M

    Shame we didn’t show interest in any of the above. No ambition at all.

  24. Do one gambon

    Film makers – Cameron and Nolan have always been pretty darn good. Always love a Scorsese crime thriller too.
    Copollas godfathers were brilliant (1 + 2 mainly).
    Sergio leones westerns were amazing films too, showed Hollywood how they should be done.
    Like a good tarrantino flick too.

    Its all subjective really depending on what kind of film I’m up for at any given time.

    Actors, prob get a laugh but I think johnny depp is an amazingly versatile actor but I generally don’t have favourites.

  25. jwl

    I never believe any rumours about Wilshere being sold for more than a few footballs because he’s broken and aint ever going to be player we thought he would become at 19.

  26. Cesc Appeal

    Really does highlight how far Wilshere has fallen from that breakout season in 2010/11 and that game against Barcelona, to an average at best loan spell with Bournemouth to try and reignite his failing career and now links to Sampdoria and Antalyaspor for less than £10 Million.

    Just sell him. Make it a symbol of us moving on from our failed central midfield options and trying to really harden that area.

  27. kristoman

    If it is easy to buy the league, then what are we waiting for. Its been long we win the title, oh we have class, we don’t buy leagues. We play beautifully to win the league. 13 yrs and counting still nothing. My God this AKB are unbelievable

  28. Cesc Appeal

    For all their spending I think City are still flawed as a side.

    Their attacking talent is top level, their full backs are now much improved.

    But for me their central midfield is still too unbalanced, if Guardiola is going with Fernandinho and Silva then they will be too weak over the course of the season. They could actually do with trying for someone like Carvalho and pairing him with Fernandinho. Solid base, got more than enough talent in Bernardo Silva, De Bruyne, Sane and Gabriel to carry their attack.

    CB situation is still also a worry for them, can Kompany stay fit, is Stones actually going to develop his defensive game?

  29. kristoman

    you spend money to make more money. the winner cl is richest club in the world. What does that tell u. those with the money win the biggest things in world football. But not us the fourth richest club in the world could not even compete let alone win its domestic title for more than a decade and we say we have class. u don’t know how that sounds out there. Extreme delusion

  30. Bamford10

    Cesc

    That may be true, but City still looks much stronger in midfield than we do (of course).

    Kristoman

    Right, because the best way to respond to others’ big spending is to throw one’s hands up and say, “nothing can be done. They’ll always outspend us. Let’s just throw in the towel.” 😉

    No, one must obviously use whatever resources one does have in the most intelligent, optimal way possible. Wenger simply does not know how to do that.

  31. Emiratesstroller

    I find it laughable that Man City have spent over £100 Million on three fullbacks. Also almost £50 million each on both Walker and Mendy.

    I am sure that no other major club would be spend such inflated transfer fees on full backs.

    When you factor in that there could be potential tapping up complaints made against Man City as well I think that they could land up shortly with a transfer
    ban as well.

    However, for all the suggestions that have been made that Sanchez will move to them in this transfer window I think that is now highly unlikely. Spending
    over £250 million in this transfer window + what I am sure are inflated wages
    as well will pose serious questions about the financing of the club and whether
    it is compliant with FIFA rules. What they are spending is not far short of their
    annual income.

  32. Alexanderhenry

    Saw The Beguiled the other day- not fantastic, but worth seeing.

    I really enjoyed Get Out. It won’t be everyone’s cup of tea, but it’s definitely original.

  33. jwl

    All top clubs in England, and across Europe, try to buy title every season. It is just that some teams are better at buying/selling than others.

    Pep, and how he will do in his second season in England, is by far most interesting thing about season ahead.

    I am curious to see if Pep learned anything from last season, and will adjust his tactics, or will he be pigheaded and stick with what he knows. I think Mourihno is best manager of his generation, if Pep wants to match Mour, he needs to win in England.

  34. TallestTiz

    Wilshere and Elneny interesting Antalyspor and Galatasaray obviously

    Get £20 million from both deals, and use it to sign Goretzka.

    DM – Xhaka vs Coq
    CM – Ramsey vs Goretzka
    Özil battles with probably Lemar.
    The CMFs a AMFs enjoy the single competition untill Santi Cazorla returns to kick their arses.

    Defence:
    Sell Chambers @£25 million
    Gabriel @£15million
    Total of £40million…. Add some money and get Van Dijk.

    Perfect? No?

  35. Alexanderhenry

    Wenger’s latest statement on Alexis includes this:

    ‘He will be part of the team next year and after that I can understand it. ‘

    This is a clearer statement than: ‘The decision is not to sell him’.

    I for one will be utterly amazed if he plays out his final year without signing a new contract.

  36. kristoman

    Tech appeal I disagree
    1. Pep misread the epl for laliga or bundesliga
    2. In those league. the smaller teams have a go at you( doesn’t pack bus like the smaller team in epl) rather than team in epl sit back and frustrate you hitting you occasional counter attack
    3. English football is damn physical, they don’t give you time on the ball.
    From this I think pep has learned the hard way. He is very aware of the situation in epl am sure of that. Yes his team conceded a lot of goals last season but we conceded more than them

  37. N5

    “Aaaah the excuses already from AKB. Pep bought the league”

    I don’t think you have to be an AKB to think that. Frankly the amount they have spent compared to what they have won is criminal.

  38. Marc

    N5

    How you doing mate?

    What City spend most seasons is criminal – this summer it’s almost as if they’re starting from scratch.

  39. graham62

    Pedro Pedro Pedro, your underlying support of Wenger is cringe worthy

    Are you serious? You think that Wenger hasn’t come to terms with the events of last season! Do you think he ever comes to terms with anything? If he did, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

    Our demise started once we left Highbury, not by finishing 5th.

  40. ThePuma9

    Pedro

    ‘We haven’t made a bold statement this summer’

    Smashing our transfer record for a new £52m no9 isn’t too bad for starters.

    Still over a month of the window left yet.

  41. ThePuma9

    Kristoman

    ‘But not us the fourth richest club in the world’

    Put the crack pipe down. We just about make the 4th richest club in the PL.

  42. Dissenter

    Lucas Perez; ” I cannot continue this way. I have given everything, but that has not been reciprocated, so I can’t stand it any longer. I feel cheated. In February I was not allowed to leave for China with the promise that I would play more and after that I had even fewer opportunities.”

    So we had been chance to sell this lad to a Chinese club in January.
    We are so badly run that we don’t even know when to make money from the fourth striker in the squad.
    He was Spanish international before he came to us. Now he’s just another’s disgruntled footballer who has been touched by Wenger. genius.

  43. Wallace

    It wasn’t me getting my excuses in early, more disappointment at Guardiola’s approach. there was always a good mix of big buys and exciting youngsters during his time at Barcelona & Bayern. but he can probably field a team of 40m+ players this coming season.

  44. ThePuma9

    steve

    ‘Why is everyone so obsessed about what City are spending? Is it your money?’

    What? 2 x £50m full backs in the same team, in the same window, not seem seem strange to you?

  45. Redtruth

    “What? 2 x £50m full backs in the same team, in the same window, not seem seem strange to you?”

    Not half as strange as the two duds we spent £35m each on last season..

  46. Emiratesstroller

    According to Skybet the betting on Sanchez staying at Arsenal is evens and
    both Man City and PSG are no longer odds on to buy him.

    Man City have spent an absolute fortune on good but not exactly special players.

    No other major team in EPL or Europe would have spent more than £30 Million on Mendy or Walker.It just shows how depleted and desperate Man City were in that department.

  47. Redtruth

    “No other major team in EPL or Europe would have spent more than £30 Million on Mendy or Walker.It just shows how depleted and desperate Man City were in that department.”

    And we’re not desperate….lol

  48. Emiratesstroller

    RT

    For your information Mendy is valued by Transfermarkt at £11.05 million.

    Kolasinac who was rated last season the best left back in Germany came to Arsenal on a Bosman.

    I think that I know who made the better transfer.

    Also whilst you may not rate Lacazette at £52 million I think that Arsenal have
    done a realistic deal for a player who has scored 30 goals in two of the last 3 seasons. I know that you will harp on about the number of penalties he scored,
    but he is still a proven finisher.

  49. kristoman

    For christ sake in order to compete u need the best around and the best cost a fortune. Walker was one of best right back in the league last season, couple with the fact that in order to price them out of their current club you pay over the odds. And mancity has the money

  50. Wallace

    kristoman

    “For christ sake in order to compete u need the best around and the best cost a fortune.”

    or you could, you know, do some coaching?

  51. Emiratesstroller

    kristoman

    Lacazette is valued at £34 million which is the same valuation as Morata and only slightly less than Lukaku. However, the difference is that goalscoring strikers are always fetching a significant premium in market.

    That is certainly not the case with full backs.

    I suggest you read the comments of Uli Hoeness President of Bayern on Sky this morning. He has made the point that what some clubs most notably those in England are spending at moment is a sign of financial madness and desperation.

    Could you visualise Bayern spending £30 million on Mendy or Walker? Last
    season they bought Hummels for less than £30 million and have just acquired
    Rodriguez from Real Madrid on a two year loan costing £8 million!

  52. kristoman

    yeah right how much did bayern earn for winning the league last season ? Compare that with what sunderland collected for being relegated

  53. Emiratesstroller

    Redtruth

    So what. Ten of those goals were conceded against Bayern and I think that you
    will find that a high proportion of other goals were conceded when Mustafi and Koscielny were not playing together in the team. We lost just two games all season when they were playing together and incidentally we were drawing first and winning second game against Bayern before Koscielny got injured in first and red carded in second.

    There may be a lot wrong at Arsenal, but for once stop writing your perennial
    critique about the club. I have yet to read anything that you post about football
    which is remotely positive.

  54. Emiratesstroller

    kristoman

    I suggest that you look at the figures published by Deloittes. Only Man Utd,
    Real Madrid and Barcelona generate more revenue.

    Their revenue and profitability far exceeds Man City and PSG.

  55. kristoman

    Now that is what I call excuse emiratesstroller. Bottom line is we conceded more goals than mancity

  56. Emiratesstroller

    kristoman

    According to Swiss Ramble’s financial analysis Bayern’s performance for 2016
    was

    Turnover Euros 592 million
    Profit before Tax Euros 53.9 million
    Wages to turnover 44%

    That is significantly better than any English Club apart from Man Utd.

  57. kristoman

    Yeah sure but that has been their model for long because they are well established club in the world something manunited know all too well about. And these smaller club suddenly find themselves in pool of cash and can bid what the big teams use to bid for players in the past. If you are a selling wouldn’t you increase you price valuations?

  58. Cesc Appeal

    Money in football is a means to an end though, the money is the means to on field success. That is the way City, United, Chelsea etc behave, the money is not central it just enables them to succeed. Arsenal have it the other way around, the football and fans are the means to money which is the ends.

    I actually think far from being run well we are actually run pretty shitterly. We emphasise having cash in the bank which (when used in the football market) is depreciating in value every year against the huge inflation in player valuations which actually makes players the best asset to invest in (like Chelsea). With much at Arsenal, we have a low effort, marginal success, lazy, cowardly strategy.

    Takes balls and gumption to really chase success at a team like Arsenal and spend right up to your limit, cut and change coaching staff, managers etc, playing staff, try and navigate the difficult transfer market etc. We do not do that.

    We prefer minimal effort, minimum change, try and keep everything the same and easily achievable successes (like putting cash in a bank).

  59. Emiratesstroller

    RT

    Take out the first game of last season when we played Holding and Chambers in Centre of Defence and the other 6 games when Koscielny and Mustafi did not play together and I think that you will discover an entirely different picture.

    As I wrote several times in recent weeks Arsenal’s defensive frailties occurred
    mainly when Gabriel played. That is why I believe that Arsenal should be looking for replacement. Holding is a great prospect, but not to be relied upon to
    play 40+ games a season and we know that Koscielny is also injury prone.

  60. Marko

    I love Pep’s approach to the game, but feel like any success he has this season will have been to a large extent bought.

    Most success is bought these days. You think the fans care? Would you care if Wenger done it? Or do you know he’s adverse to spending money. They all do it have been doing it for years and to bemoan successful teams spending money honestly suggests a loser mentality or lack of ambition and that’s kind of the problem this club and fan base has.

  61. Marko

    Cesc we’re run awfully have been for years. Our business model is charge as much as we can as opposed to emphasize on field success which can bring in bigger sponsorship deals. It’s pretty stupid. I mean look how long it took them to go on tours as opposed to just going to Austria.

  62. Emiratesstroller

    CA

    No-one disputes that Arsenal should have been more ambitious in the transfer market in past 5 years. Personally I think that the bank balance proved a hindrance to doing transfer business, because selling clubs were inclined to inflate prices.

    However, I do think that Arsenal spent in the transfer window a sensible amount when you factor in that we recouped very little in sales.

    Personally I don’t think that Arsenal will spend a similar amount in this transfer window unless Sanchez leaves. The difference is that hopefully Arsenal
    will manage to recoup at least £40-50 million on sales.

    I agree with you that the way the club has managed its finances when negotiating player contracts has been dreadful and is a major reason that we struggle to sell players at realistic fees both because of the wages and allowing contracts to run down.

  63. Emiratesstroller

    I omitted that we spent a sensible amount in transfer window LAST SUMMER.
    Our net spend was approximately £90 Million.

  64. Cesc Appeal

    Marko

    I just think we are amateur and lazy all over for a top club, from majority owner to manager all the way down to a lot of our playing staff.

    Running a club like Arsenal and trying to make them competitive at the top level is f*****g hard, but everyone at Arsenal, Kroenke, Wenger, Gazidis etc they just have it far too easy and point to successes that are far too easily achievable.

  65. gazzap

    I thought our spine was our weakest part of the team last season. right down the middle – centre defence, Xhaka/Elneny, Ozil. Very easy to boss us about if you get in our faces. drive a bus down the middle. Nothing will change this season. We need a commanding top quality ball winner like Kante, and a santi replacement and sack about 5 of our current first choice players, including Gabriel.

  66. Wallace

    Marko

    “Most success is bought these days. You think the fans care? Would you care if Wenger done it? Or do you know he’s adverse to spending money. They all do it have been doing it for years and to bemoan successful teams spending money honestly suggests a loser mentality or lack of ambition and that’s kind of the problem this club and fan base has.”

    I think fans differentiate between those clubs who spend what they generate themselves, and the oil clubs. no idea how the fans of the oil clubs feel. would imagine a fair few of them have some misgivings about the way their success has come about, although would they change any of it? probably not.

    “and to bemoan successful teams spending money honestly suggests a loser mentality…”

    I guess the word ‘honestly’ is the one there’d be some debate about.

  67. TR7

    Marko

    Given the halo built around the genius of Pep, I would say buying his way to success does diminish his stature. For a man renowned for putting faith in young players and elevating their level, he hasn’t given a single youth player a chance. There was so much hoopla over City’s academy, over it’s bosses with Barca connection and then the talk of bringing in Pep to build a new culture and what not…. what’s the end result? Incessant and reckless spending a la Mourinho.

  68. Cesc Appeal

    ES

    I just think our entire economic strategy is poor. As you have rightly said, clubs know we have £250 Million in cash sitting around because we advertise it as a success, a trophy. So they will ask for more money and also that means we are placing emphasis in cash which is worth widely less than it was four or five years ago.

    Spending near £100 Million last summer is more like it, we could still do more, but then factoring in we spent something like net £7 Million the season before.

    The thing is we do not have a clear plan, as Sir Chips told us, what Wenger wants to do is what they follow so it is just Wenger with his hand on the wheel and that accounts for our strange approach. In terms of transfers, average to poor, player contracts, poor, wage structure, face against wall poor.

    Really, if ever a team needed a strong DoF it is us. When Wenger asks ‘what does a DoF do’ as well as being a big f*****g child and throwing a tantrum he is also hinting at the problem. He does not know, he has no regard for an aggressive transfer, player, coaching, vision approach.

  69. kristoman

    Money in football is a means to
    an end though, the money is
    the means to on field success.
    That is the way City, United,
    Chelsea etc behave, the money
    is not central it just enables
    them to succeed. Arsenal have
    it the other way around, the
    football and fans are the
    means to money which is the
    ends.
    I actually think far from being
    run well we are actually run
    pretty shitterly. We emphasise
    having cash in the bank which
    (when used in the football
    market) is depreciating in
    value every year against the
    huge inflation in player
    valuations which actually
    makes players the best asset to
    invest in (like Chelsea). With
    much at Arsenal, we have a
    low effort, marginal success,
    lazy, cowardly strategy.
    Takes balls and gumption to
    really chase success at a team
    like Arsenal and spend right up
    to your limit, cut and change
    coaching staff, managers etc,
    playing staff, try and navigate
    the difficult transfer market
    etc. We do not do that.
    We prefer minimal effort,
    minimum change, try and keep
    everything the same and easily
    achievable successes (like
    putting cash in a bank).

    Exactly cech appeal couldn’t said it any better

  70. Emiratesstroller

    CA

    Agreed.

    However, I think that the bank balance will have reduced in last financial year.

    It may also reduce next season, because of the loss of revenue from reduction
    in ticket prices and reduced revenues from not competing in CL.

    I think that Arsenal have spent their net transfer budget on Lacazette. Any
    additional transfer(s) will depend on selling our unwanted players (dross) and
    maintaining our current wage bill.

  71. kristoman

    However, I think that the bank
    balance will have reduced in
    last financial year.
    It may also reduce next season,
    because of the loss of revenue
    from reduction
    in ticket prices and reduced
    revenues from not competing
    in CL.
    I think that Arsenal have spent
    their net transfer budget on
    Lacazette. Any
    additional transfer(s) will
    depend on selling our
    unwanted players (dross) and
    maintaining our current wage
    bill.
    That is the problem our dross earn high wages due to our socialist wage structure. For example even if jenkinson is to be sold for 1m the buying still cannot pay him that high he used to earn at arsenal so they rather stay put
    emiratesstroller

  72. graham62

    All this talk of money drives me mad!

    Cesc Appeal

    Do Arsenal have an economic strategy? What I do know is that those gullible souls who fork out thousands on season tickets don’t have an economic strategy of their own.

  73. Relieable Sauce

    Buying 5th place at £90m was fairly expensive, I would think £250m is decent price for the EPL.
    When 4 full backs have just left the club I don’t know what people are expecting the club to do. Take a chance on a £10m punt from the French 2nd division.

    Didn’t he try to sign Kolasinac and Alves ?
    I take it freebies are ok ??

    Didn’t know Pep negotiated prices either, or that he was renowned for bringing through kids…Or that you could magic players out of thin air through coaching alone.

  74. loyika

    I don’t think Pep wants to hang around at Citeh for too long, hence his throwing the bank to get things right now.

    He comes across as someone that gets bored of the whole football circus quite easily. I can see him chucking it in with Citeh in 2 seasons (regardless of what they win or not)

    As for Arsenal, our issue is not money, its the management of said funds to achieve the best result (a’la best VFM) We might not hsve the means of say a United or Chelsea but we fall short in other areas regardless (Like last season’s debacle in Leicester winning the title, that was just an issue of mismanagement of the squad and season by the Coaching staff and the Manager)

  75. Carts

    Bayern have a monopoly over their league. The literally get first dibs on anyone.

    Signings such as James is a good one. Could well be signing of the summer.

    But let not pretend Bayern don’t pimp that league.

  76. Cesc Appeal

    HillWood

    I did not know whether it would let me post it, thought it would be one of the banned words. For example, lots of search engines will stop suggesting results when you type that in.

    ES

    I disagree with the budget part. The AST estimates we have £80-100 Million each summer and that is comfortable spend levels. Lots of press were reporting this summer we had set out £150 Million to try and revamp this team.

    If our budget for a summer is £45 Million in this current economic set up in EPL football then we are doing something badly wrong. Badly wrong.

    I do not buy this bullshit either that we could spend more but Kroenke sets a limit. We have seen how petulantly Wenger acts at even the suggestion he has to be babied or supervised or ordered around. Wenger does what he wants, what he spends he wants to spend, what he doesn’t he doesn’t.

    He is a manager of such power in his club if he wanted to sign a £120 Million player he could approach the board and likely the funds would be released. In my opinion.

    Graham

    Our economic model to begin with was heavily reliant on the matchday fans, milking them. That is why the club’s disregard for the fans is so poor. Yeah Wenger did well in the early stages of the move, but the fans shouldered a lot of the burden as well just by turning up, buying merchandise ect. So when they demand ambition they have every f*****g right, despite what tosspots like John Cross have said in the past.

    This is not a bank, it is not some business because then they are not playing fair, Arsenal fans are not usual consumers in that regard and it would make what they are doing even more heinous. You cannot switch brands on Arsenal.

    Now though, the TV deals have meant the matchday income is less important.

  77. Cesc Appeal

    Wonder what Liverpool will go with, Keita, Henderson, Lallana as a middle, or will Can get in there still?

    Then have Mane, Firmino, Coutinho, Salah, Sturridge, Origi in attack. If Coutinho stays.

  78. Marko

    Given the halo built around the genius of Pep, I would say buying his way to success does diminish his stature.

    He’s kind of done it everywhere though. I mean he got lucky in his previous jobs that there was already some great players there but he’s still bought. It doesn’t matter in the slightest whether he’s spent a fuck tonne of money or not as long as it brings success. Think of it this way if our manager fell on his head and completely changed and starting spending money and won the title would anyone care? Would there be some fans out there like Wallace suggested that might see the title as being bought. Does it matter I mean we ain’t winning anything major without spending a massive amount

  79. Cesc Appeal

    I do think Guardiola made Munich worse with his approach, and last season he badly underestimated just how intense and physical the EPL is.

    A lot riding on this season for him.

    Gearing up to be an interesting season.

  80. TitsMcGee

    We’ve not moved on the ‘ok’ players that bring down the collective quality and winnertivity of the squad. We’ve not addressed our midfield troubles. ”

    Anyone that actually bought the BS about a “new invigorated ” Wenger was gullible as shiite.

  81. Marko

    Thing is it is disgusting the amount of money they’ve spent but Bernardo Silva, Mendy and Walker improves their starting 11 and improves their chances of success. In saying all that Cesc is right their midfield needs work and to think 200 million spent and they still need a midfielder and defender is a bit weird

  82. loyika

    Funny enough i would also think another reason for Citeh going ‘gung ho’ might also be the irritation from Pep and the Citeh “Higher ups” with Jose’s antics of always refering to United as the “Biggest *and best) club” that all players want to come to.

    But all in all he is sticking his neck out (and his rep) with these purchases. The British press will have a field day with Citeh if things don’t go according to plan.

  83. Joe

    but feel like any success he has this season will have been to a large extent bought

    Oh please do fuck off. Wenger spent 90m
    And made us worse. Jose spent 100
    Of Millions and came 6th. He still
    Has to manage these players and get them to play

    He’s let all his full backs leave and neeed to buy. They are also in the CL so how much Revenue does that bring them. Plus 90% chance of them being in the CL again next season.

    You be happy wenger for a freebie LB while we finish 6th next season and pep and city spend 130 plus and have CL this and next season and make over 100m just from that.

    Fucking cry babies. Get over it. If you don’t like what’s going on with football because our loser manager won’t spend what he’s allocated don’t cry about what city spends. Go watch something else.

    And pep knows he will get sacked if he doesn’t perform and compete. So he’s spending and doing whatever it takes.

  84. tonyd

    Wenger’s treatment of Perez has been completely unprofessional at best and total shaming of the club at worst.

    What’s worse is that football is a small world where Perez’s story is bound to affect players’ decisions when considering any transfer to Arsenal.

    I’m sure players’ agents keep them (players) well informed of all aspects of interested clubs’ performances and dealings with players past and present.

    I know Perez was out with an injury, but it’s clear to many here that Perez is far better player than Welbeck and a more intelligent player than Walcott.

    Wenger should feel totally ashamed of His treatment of Perez. However, this is Wenger’s despot world where Wenger has no comprehension of the word ‘Shame’ .

    “In the meeting, Perez is said to have accused Wenger of broken promises and blasted the club for giving his No 9 shirt to new signing Alexandre Lacazette.”

    “According to Spanish newspaper La Voz de Galicia, Perez — who scored seven goals in nine starts last season — said: ‘I feel cheated. In February I was not allowed to leave for China with the promise that I would play more and after that I had even fewer opportunities.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4726342/Arsenal-s-Lucas-Perez-feels-cheated-Arsene-Wenger.html#ixzz4nnmU7SAf

  85. peanuts&monkeys

    “”They [Arsenal] are not being fair with me. The act of taking away my [shirt] number without telling me anything to give to a teammate, that was the last straw for me,” Perez was quoted as saying. “It is unfortunate. And I can’t go on this way. I have given them everything, but they haven’t responded in kind. And I can’t take it anymore.”

    Shame on you leechWenger!

  86. HillWood

    I wish a reporter would ask Wenger why he has snubbed Lucas Perez.
    And Jaquie Oatley would do nicely

  87. Guernsey gun

    We’ll never know how good Perez could have been probably because clueless did not want him in the first place and only at arsenal are you allowed to effectively abuse and devalue a 17m pound asset. Fuckin embarrassing but just another day in that wankers selfish arrogant world.

  88. Ishola70

    ES you keep going on about the defence and saying it was just fine and the only problem was Gabriel.

    Well I have to disagree. While Gabriel coming into the side did cause problems Koscielny and Mustafi together were far from watertight with Mustafi in particular looking dodgy defensively and that was playing alongside Koscielny who is not the absolute bomb some people think he is either.

    Rather than just looking at whether Arsenal won more games with Koscielny and Mustafi together it may be more informative to see how many goals were conceded in each game with Koscielny and Mustafi starting games. In other words defensive danger signs were coming even if the team were not losing matches. I remember people laughing on here when fans were still going on about Arsenal being unbeaten whenever Mustafi started this after conceding three goals at Bournemouth.

    A good defensive display should really entail the side not conceding more than one goal in a match. Let’s look at matches last season where Arsenal conceded two or more goals with Koscielny and Mustafi starting together:

    Swansea (H) 2 goals conceded
    Bournemouth (A) 3 goals conceded
    Watford (H) 2 goals conceded
    Chelsea (A) 3 goals conceded
    Liverpool (A) 3 goals conceded
    West Brom (A) 3 goals conceded
    Man City (H) 2 goals conceded (2 goals conceded in 1st half with both Kos/Mus)

    Those stats are not good enough and Mustafi in particular looked defensively suspect in matches.

    Holding to me shows more maturity in his game despite being younger than Mustafi and even when Mustafi was at Valencia he was known as being rash but this was forgiven as he was seen as a ball winner.

    In saying all this going to back three can help out all the central defenders.

    The main point though is that Gabriel was not the only bogeyman defensively for Arsenal season just gone. The danger signs were there even without him defensively in the team.

  89. Ishola70

    Those stats are just EPL matches.

    Two more games where Arsenal conceded two or more goals with Kos and Mustafi together were Ludogorets and PSG both at home in the Champions League.