Jens Lehmann is confirmed, but what will he do?

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We have confirmation. Jen Lehmann:

“Yes, it’s true,”

Good work Jens, good work.

Still no real news on what exactly his role at the club will be. Cone Manager? Lucozade Refill Director? Naughty Corner Operator?

Many wild opportunities ahead for the German, good luck. Now our stagnation is on YOUR head.

Arsenal news is so stretched right now, it’s actually a story that Arsenal fans have an acronym for a quartet of players who will likely never be at the club at the same time.

LMAO – Lacazette / Mahrez / Alexis / Ozil

Wonderful. Award winning creativity.

Here’s my thing with all the names on that list: They come with development baggage.

Arsenal are that family that thinks they’re normal, but it’s mostly because everyone lets the bad behaviour slide. Sure, Christmas went past nicely, but no one mentioned John streaking in the woods, no one address Sally’s 4th marriage in 2 years, and no one asked how Dave can afford a Jaguar when all he does is stay home and get stoned all day.

That’s why Jens Lehmann might be interesting. He’d not let a misplaced breadcrumb slide.

Here’s my list of bad behaviour that Jens would need to deal with.

Alexis: Superb player, but plays for himself. Loses the ball a horrendous amount of times because he plays for himself.

Ozil: One of the most exciting creative talents on the planet, but you only get 70% of him. Doesn’t show up in big games. Questionable character.

Mahrez: Wonderful talent, but when the chips are down, like last season. He goes missing.

Lacazette: I mean, now I’ve landed on Lacazette, I realise this one doesn’t fit into the mixer. But let’s just say, he needs to bring it in the big games and be more elite.

Maybe Jens Lehmann can have the difficult conversations? Maybe he’s the guy calling Ozil a coward? Maybe he’s the guy who deals with Alexis when he sulks after being subbed at a non-league side? Maybe he becomes the fear factor… because I have the feeling that’s not Wenger these days.

Anyway, it’s an interesting hire, and it’ll be fascinating to see how close he’s brought into the mixer. It’s literally the most aggressive coaching signing Wenger could have made outside bringing in an actual experienced expert.

However, I’d hold off the: ‘See, he can change’

… because all the evidence points towards that being a nonsense. Wenger is the master of PR and fans are pretty dim and forgetful of how this game works.

Remember:

> Always on Wenger’s terms

Let’s see how this pans out.

 

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  1. DM

    Cheers Bankz. I played some tactics myself – waited a little longer between my second and third posts in case u popped up in between. Worked 🙂

  2. N5

    Quite happy to see the mad German back at Arsenal. Other than David Seaman he’s my favourite keeper that has ever played for us. Shame he was so bloody hot headed.

  3. Leedsgunner

    Substitute Santi Cazorla’s name with Jack Wilshere and the story is the same.

    Lessons not learnt. Mistakes repeated.

  4. BillikenGooner

    I find it hard to believe that Arsene would let Jens yell at his special ones. Maybe the Perezes or Debuchys on the squad, but never his favorites.

  5. Troy McClure

    I hope Lehmann is hired to be the bad cop, Arsenal desperately need one. The cop in the interrogation room smoking a cig, simmering in the corner barely able to control his anger, until he is pushed over the edge and goes bonkers.

  6. PK

    Give me the DoF job now pls!!

    If the club would go out and perform this kind of summer i for one would be happy. We can´t really win anything big with Wengaboy anyway so mind aswell build for the future and at the same time be an exiting team to watch.

    Out:
    Wallnutt 20 M
    Welbz 20 M
    Wilshere 15 M
    Perez 15 M
    Coq 12 M
    Gibbs 12 M
    Szczesny 7 M
    Debuchy 5 M
    Campbell 5 M
    Ospina 3 M
    Akpom 1 M

    Total 115 M

    Offer new contracts:
    Sanches (whatever it takes)
    Özil (whatever it takes)
    Ox (whatever it takes)

    Buy:
    Kolasinac Free (done)
    Lacazette 45 M (+ 7 M add-ons)
    Dembélé (Celtic) 25 M (+ 5 M add-ons)
    Renato Sanches 35 M
    Donnarumma 35 M

    And when all the above is done i would go out and se how PSG or RM would react if we throw 50 M at one of Krychowiak (PSG), Rabiot (PSG) or
    Kovacic (RM).

    Total 140-190 M
    Net 25-75 M

    First Eleven:
    Donnarumma

    Mustafi Kozzer Chambers

    Bellerin Xhaka Kolasinac

    Ramsey

    Özil A. Sanches

    Lacazette

    Second String:

    Cech

    Holding Mertesacker Gabriel

    Chambo Elneny Monreal

    R. Sanches

    Iwobi The Jeff

    Dembele/Giroud

    Youth string (pointless cup games):

    Martinez

    Holding Chambers Bielik

    M-Niles Dragomir Bramall

    R. Sanches

    Iwobi The Jeff

    Dembele/Malen/Nketia

    If all of the above does happen my only big question mark would be if Kozzer is able to stay fit or if he will be the next Cazorla case. If he´s not 100 % fit at the end of august i would go big on a WC CB preferably a lovechild of Mertesacker (hight and brain) and Kozzer (speed, passing, tackle, commitment and that special ”Aguerro treatment”).

  7. PK

    DM

    Yes sir i just did. It´s a close one between Holding and Chambers for me, but Chambers got the nod on the base that he got in to the first eleven at the under 21´s this summer. But they would rotate all season long so don´t worry. Gabriel is injured? And also i would put both Chambers and Holding in front of him as they can develop in to something special.

  8. Jim Lahey

    @Zimbabwean Gunner –

    “David Ornstein twitter breaks signing before SkySports. How does he do it?”

    I am guessing he has direct ties with Arsenal.

  9. Oh Theo Theo!

    PK – Chambers ahead of Holding?

    Both ‘developing’ players and not good enough for a championship winning team….

  10. Zimbabwean Gunner

    Jim Lahey
    July 5, 2017 17:07:49

    I am guessing he has direct ties with Arsenal.
    _____________________________

    Problem is he does with virtually every club in the league. I guess the fella has ears everywhere.

  11. Champagne charlie

    All makes sense why Coquelin got to stay, good mates with Lacazette. Well played Arsenal

    Welcome Lacazette.

  12. Sanmi

    Now I don’t know what we need welbz and theo for?

    Giroud is the substitute CF, Perez substitute LW,
    ok maybe theo is the substitute RW, I can accept that. But WELBZ I have no idea

  13. Wallace

    “I think it is a very good signing for many reasons. Not just for spending the money but he is 26. The first time Arsenal scout Gilles Grimandi went to watch him was 10 years ago and already then Arsene Wenger had an interest in him.

    They have looked at him so many times, year after year and were not always convinced. Sometimes he was ‘yes’, sometimes it was ‘give him a bit of time’. On this occasion, Wenger is convinced it is the right time for him. Lacazette has matured and improved massively.”

    – Julien Laurens

  14. Bacaryisgod

    So we’ve finally signed the Frech Defoe. Not that I’m complaining especially if he can score heaps against sides we typically find hard to break down. Not world class but will do a fine job for us.

  15. Dissenter

    I like how everyone says Lacazette isn’t world class when in fact they haven’t seen him play beyond a YouTube clip.

  16. Wallace

    Might struggle in his first season, but could also easily see him plundering 25 goals with minimum fuss with the amount of chances we create.

    Ornstein saying he was the player we really wanted this summer.

  17. Dissenter

    “Welbeck can play RW, LW and ST. Very useful player”

    Jack of all trades
    Shitty overall
    Master of none

  18. Jaffa

    I’m just glad we signed someone who has pace and looking like he can finish. He hopefully will hit the ground running and give us a a decent return.

  19. Dissenter

    Do one Gambon,
    ‘”Personally I’m not enamoured with lacazette signing.But we’ve spent a fortune on him so a bit of do or die for the club here’

    That’s what happens when desperation sets in.
    It;s like waking up from a 13 year coma and realizing that your family has moved on.

  20. BacaryisGod

    Hey, we got him for less than Stones or Sterling.

    Btw, still trying to figure out who will get the shaft if Alexis goes to City. They already have Sane, Sterling, Gabriel Jesus, De Bruyne, D.Silva, B.Silva, Aguero etc. They’re just loaded with attacking midfielders/strikers.

    I guess they have 3 disposable players in Bony, Ineacho and Nolito. but even so…

  21. Do one gambon

    Dissenter

    Exactly. As the saying goes – closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.

    IMO he looks decent but I think we’ve been a little ripped off for what we’ll get.

    At any point in the last few years we could have got a better player for that kind of cash.
    Anyway, he’s got to come good. Or its another nail in Wenger’s and the boards coffin.

  22. BacaryisGod

    On the plus side, at least we’ve spent over 30 million now on 5 players in the last 5 summer windows.

  23. Dissenter

    I’m pretty sure he din’t cost us as much as the 52 million being reported. The Lyon president said about 43.4-45 million a few days back.

  24. Sanmi

    Why is it that when we sign a le-grove favourite, legrove suddenly says the player is shit. E.g xhaka and lacazette.

    At this rate we might sign ronaldo and messi and legrove will still say it’s shit.

  25. Sanmi

    Legrove is hailing players like Morata AND belotti, players that don’t even boast lacazette numbers. If we announce both today, legrove will switch to why not lukaku

  26. Dissenter

    This is what 15 years of under-investment looks like. We actually paying a surcharge for out inactivity now much liker City/Chelsea did when they started spending.
    The initial period of non-spending was forced by the stadium commitment abd we were bare bones. Wenger did a great job to keep us in it- I grant him that.
    However for the past 5-7 season the under-investment s has been due to Wenger’s dithering and lack of an executable plan has been at the fore front of the wasting of this great club. The lack of oversight has made things worse.
    We stashed away money as is we were hibernating for the winter- every club know out finances too.

  27. Joe

    Ornstein saying he was the player we really wanted this summer.

    Wallace

    Then why did wenger put up no fight at all when atletico basically had him
    All signed up before their transfer ban?

    And we were obviously not first choice for him

    More bollocks.

  28. Dissenter

    Sanmi,
    “Why is it that when we sign a le-grove favourite, legrove suddenly says the player is shit. E.g xhaka and lacazette.”

    Stop making stuff up
    Lacazette was never a “le-grove favorite”
    I think he’s a good player that’s better than what we have already. I think he’s the best we can get in out current state but don’t make stuff up.

  29. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘IMO he looks decent but I think we’ve been a little ripped off for what we’ll get.’

    You think in the current market 45 million for a striker who has scored over 90 goals in last three seasons is a rip off?

  30. Joe

    “Welbeck can play RW, LW and ST. Very useful player”

    Too bad he can’t score to save his life. Which is the one thing we need him to do

    Arsenal fans. SMH

  31. Dissenter

    Joe,
    “Then why did wenger put up no fight at all when atletico basically had him
    All signed up before their transfer ban?”

    Stop it Joseph from Canada 🙂
    Don’t you know Wenger is the most patient of scavengers. The dude is a vulture. He waits for the left-overs. He was waiting to have the court of arbitration rule against Atletico before pouncing.

  32. Zaco

    Sanmi

    Why is it that when we sign a le-grove favourite, legrove suddenly says the player is shit. E.g xhaka and lacazette.

    At this rate we might sign ronaldo and messi and legrove will still say it’s shit.
    ———————————————
    You just nailed it, some said we should have signed him few years ago the same people will tell you kids don’t win titles when a young player is signed. when chelsea signed batshuayi last year some people on le-grove saw him as the second coming of hulk hogan, you can never satisfy le-grovers.

  33. Rambo Ramsey

    Obviously the guy above forgot to mention the role Welbeck plays best- Warming the hospital bed.

  34. TR7

    Among the non-elite strikers available for transfer, Lacazzete is probably the best we could have signed. Morata isn’t a prolific striker,Lukaku is not an Arsenal type striker and isn’t that good really. Bellotti has the makings of a top striker but for someone who has had just one great season his price is sky high. Mbappe was/is a pipedream. Who else?

  35. Dissenter

    TRZ
    Other than the EPL experience advantage that Lukaku has. I rate Lacazette over him.
    Morata? I’ve never understood the hullabaloo over him. He does not have the numbers to generate the fees that are being asked for him.
    Mbappe- too young, too untested

    I agree Lacazette is the best tested striker we can get currently. It required some good fortune that Atletico were knocked out of the running.

  36. Rambo Ramsey

    I think some( not all ) Le grovers have looked at and written about Arsenal from a negative pov for so long that its become habitual. Everything is seen with pessimism. Pretty sad when you think about it.

  37. Dissenter

    I consider Lacazette to be an elite striker, World class like Suarez or Lewa? Nope.
    You don’t have those numbers in a good European league without being good

  38. Dissenter

    Draxler is perhaps the biggest of the Legrove favorite
    Pedro has written at least 10-20 pieces on Draxler.
    I know because he used the stock photograph of the buxom German lasses to introduce the daily post.
    I just came to look at those pics, the posts were just extras.

  39. Marko

    All makes sense why Coquelin got to stay, good mates with Lacazette. Well played Arsenal

    Oh god. So we have to keep Coquelin around for 5 years now

  40. Sanmi

    I go a man utd blog, redcafe to be precise, and they are beating themselves up over why Mou hasn’t signed a striker of note while arsenal signs lacazette quite early.
    Then I come to an arsenal blog legrove and I basically hear lacazette is the worst 45m striker you can buy.
    Fans will be fans! The grass is always greener on the other side till you get there

  41. Josip Skoblar

    Welcome Lacazette. I’ve seen him play countless times for Lyon. He’s fast and has good technique. He’ll score plenty of goals for us. It’s a very goid signing

  42. Marko

    Also considering he’d be wearing an atletico jersey by now if it wasn’t for a transfer embargo I highly doubt that he was our number one target this summer. We generally don’t have number one targets but rather just happen to buy players. Hey look I’m glad he’s signed but let’s not fool ourselves into thinking it was all part of a plan

  43. Emiratesstroller

    Next summer our major transfer should be Griezmann. Apparently Lacazette is
    his best mate.

  44. Rambo Ramsey

    I’m actually surprised at how quiet United have been at the transfer front. They have no recognized striker/goalscorers in that team and are targeting Morata-the Spanish Martial. Looks nice on the ball but poor scoring record.

  45. Sanmi

    Rambo

    Shows you how hard it is to sign a striker of note.
    So far in the whole epl, arsenal is having the best transfers this season

  46. Cesc Appeal

    Good signing, decent enough price in this market at £45 Million. Fingers crossed we made the extra £7 Million payable if we win the EPL so we never have to give the f****rs a penny more 😉

    Need to push on from here though, we are not a Lacazette away from being a credible force.

    But this has been a decent week, Lacazette is the first big purchase (Kolasinac was a decent free acquisition) and we have got Lehmann into the coaching set up which is the first even remotely meaningful backroom addition.

    Need more weeks like this.

  47. seg

    So arsenal scouted him for a whole decade?! OK, would love to know who scouted Sanogo and how long he scouted for. Ten years!!! can’t be true. WTF!

  48. Rambo Ramsey

    Sanmi, so far- Yes, I’d have to agree.

    United, Spuds and Pool have made no signings of note.
    Chelsea are close to Bakayoko- except I’ve been hearing this shit for weeks( maybe we can swoop in? ) and fresh news is that Diego Costa has left the club.
    City typically stockpiling attacking players but have done nothing about their weak defense.

  49. Emiratesstroller

    Arsenal have currently 33 registered first team players in their squad.

    Therefore if Wenger plans one further addition to his squad this summer he will
    need to offload at least 9 players. My preference would be

    Szczesny[sale]
    Macey [loan]
    Gibbs[sale]
    Jenkinson [sale]
    Debuchy[sale/release]
    Wilshire [sale]
    Campbell [sale]
    Lucas [sale]
    Akpom [loan/sale]

    That should generate at least £40-45 Million in transfers and enough to buy
    one additional quality player preferably in central midfield position.

  50. Do one gambon

    Sanmi and Zack

    Ever thought that the le Grovers who have them as favourites and those that don’t now are different people?

    For the record I think lacazette looks a good player but we’ve over paid.
    I rate Xhaka though. There’s a player in there underneath all his faults.

  51. Cesc Appeal

    ES

    We have plenty of crap to sell without doubt and I am a little worried there has not been much movement on that front.

    There are even rumours Wilshere might get a new deal. That would be totally baffling because yet again he ended up with a major injury this season and when he did play he did not impress.

    Cannot believe Joel Campbell is still an Arsenal player.

  52. Cesc Appeal

    ‘I rate Xhaka though. There’s a player in there underneath all his faults.’

    Agreed.

    Needs the right partner in that midfield as well.

  53. Emiratesstroller

    CA

    For once Wenger has made positive and correct decisions early in transfer market, which will take a lot of pressure off club.

    Arsenal need now for once to offload players who are clearly unwanted by whatever means at their disposal. I made a very conservative value of those players, which should not be beyond the club’s ability level to achieve.

    Personally I would offload Wilshire. He is a talented boy, but his injury record
    makes him a liability. Arsenal should be able to sell him for £15 million. Maybe
    someone else will have better luck with him.

    The £40 million + should be enough to buy a quality midfield player and keep
    our net spend down to under £50 million this summer.

  54. Dissenter

    The only poster here who’s said that Lacazette is underwhelming is Joe. Many aren’t so sure about him
    Has anyone stated that “lacazette is the worst 45m striker you can buy”?

  55. gonsterous

    can’t wait to be top of the league come January only to slip down to 4th at the end of the season.. Wenger would exclaim, he’s improved…

  56. Dissenter

    Grooveydady,
    “The website store has Laca wearing 00Is that allowed??

    I think that number was reserved for Yaya Sanogo.

  57. jwl

    Colleague at work has MBA and says in business school one case they studied was Jack Welch, ceo of general electric.

    My colleague says similarity between Wenger and Welch, both had purple patches in beginning of their tenure but their abilities started to fade and they refused to quit or retire.

    Apparently, Welch hired talented people too but they couldn’t do their jobs to best of ability because Welch was power hoarder like Wenger and it is impossible for their underlings to do their jobs correctly.

    Email from colleague this morning said Lehmann appointment changes nothing. Wenger is still in charge, his methods will be used, the German will have to fit in or else be fired.

    Sanchez is probably one of few players Lehmann would respect, Chilean and German have correct work ethic, and Arsenal are selling player while bringing in guy who will stay on sidelines.

  58. Cesc Appeal

    ES

    It is not exactly like we need the money badly, what we need to do is free up squad space and space for wage increases within the rules.

    For me Wilshere, Walcott, Perez and Gibbs should be able to fetch fees of £10 Million or above. Players like Debuchy and Jenkinson we may need to basically give away, someone like Campbell we may get a few million for.

    That would buy you a very good CM, a large chunk of the remainder of your actual budget then could be put into another attacker like Lemar (I know the stories about his £80 Million price tag but I don’t buy them, I think Monaco would take lower though nowhere near as low as we offered).

    Obviously there are question marks over what is happening with Sanchez, and looks as if Oxlade may be sold for a sizeable fee as well.

  59. freddylekgunner

    BBC Sport’s David Ornstein
    The player Arsenal really wanted this summer was Alexandre Lacazette and sources there tell me his arrival is another signal that the club are deadly serious when they say they want to become top-flight champions.
    Although breaking the club transfer record does not guarantee anything, acquiring Lacazette proves Arsenal and Wenger can still attract top players, even without Champions League football.
    Arsenal do have other targets but whether or not more signings are made is likely to depend on what happens with the likes of Alexis Sanchez, Mesut Ozil, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Jack Wilshere, all of whom are out of contract in a year’s time and have been linked with moves away from the Emirates.
    Arsenal’s first-team squad is currently far too big and players need to leave before any more arrive.

  60. Emiratesstroller

    CA

    Arsenal’s outgoing sales in recent years have been underwhelming. Part of the
    problem has been the grossly inflated wages we are paying some of the players.

    That is why I have made a low calculation on their transfer valuation. As you say some of the players like Debuchy may well have to be freebies.

    As has been discussed on Le Grove the EPL have announced this season a restriction on wage increases and that will also need to be factored in particularly if we are meeting demands of Sanchez and Ozil.

  61. freddylekgunner

    We need to keep Sanchez and Ozil, for me Ox can go if we get a decent fee. Campbell, Walnut, Jenkinson and Debauchy ( even free) should be sold,Welbeck can still do a job as well as Perez.

  62. Dissenter

    jwl

    You need a colleague at work with an MBA to tell you that we aren’t been run properly?
    We keep adding to the many layers of redundancy rather that change failing portions. The Gerry Peyton, goal keeping coach should have been fired and Lehman brought in. Dick Law should have been fired to make room for Huss Fany. If Shad Forsetyh wasn’t good enough he should have been fired to make room for Darren Burgess. You wonder what Tony Colbert is still doing around.
    It’s a shell game now; it convoluted to make it difficult to assign responsibility.
    There’s a lack of decisiveness and we are being run like the civil service of a failing country.

  63. jwl

    freddylekgunner – ” …. and sources there tell me his arrival is another signal that the club are deadly serious when they say they want to become top-flight champions.”
    —————

    Feels like Arsenal are gaslighting fans when you read comments like that.

    Is a club really ‘deadly serious’ about winning league when further mid field purchases depend’s on what Ox and Wilshere! decide to do?

    Signing Lacazette proves that Arsenal are ambitious to win league so it makes complete sense to not buy any more mid fielders until club learn where Wilshere see’s his future. Wilshere, not good enough for Bournemouth but good enough for title winning side, according to wind up merchants within Arsenal public relations.

    Wenger gets contract extension and raise for finishing fifth, Arsenal execs are paid to gaslight gooners with lame arguments.

  64. freddylekgunner

    Ornstein was only stating that Arsenal need to sell some dross for more new signings to come. I don’t he’s wrong there, and he’s a very reliable source.

  65. Samir

    Wilshere is probably worth giving 1 last go (But no new contract).

    Let him play Ozils role in the Europa league squad. If he doesn’t prove himself…
    His contract will be up in the Summer won’t it so he can leave on a free.

  66. Cesc Appeal

    One of the newly promoted sides might take a gamble on Wilshere for £10-15 Million, possibly?

  67. jwl

    freddylekgunner

    I think if Arsenal were negotiating the sale of ten of our lesser players, we would know about it now. If club really wanted to make room for quality players, reduce transfer fees so other teams can afford inflated salary Arsenal pay players.

    Wilshere and Ox were not starters for us in midfield last season, I agree, so why are further mid field purchases dependent on what they doing?

  68. Dissenter

    “One of the newly promoted sides might take a gamble on Wilshere for £10-15 Million, possibly?”
    I don’t think so.
    Everyone uses analytics these days so they won’t chance good money on an over-rated crocked player. Besides they cannot afford his wages.
    The fact that Bournemouth didn’t even inquire about him says it all. He’s not as good as we all thought.

  69. Dissenter

    We aren’t a learning club. I don’t need a freind with an MBA to tell me that.
    Wenger is still going to start the season with two crocked central midfielders; Jack and Cazorla.
    We never learn. Wait for both of them to be out bu December then it will be another rescue operation, playing people out of position.

  70. Cesc Appeal

    Dissenter

    Maybe.

    Just so annoying we have painted ourselves into a corner with certain players like Gibbs, Wilshere, Jenkinson etc by giving them obscene wages for their talent.

    You would like to think we will learn now, and players like Holding and any other up and coming young talent will only see their wages slowly increase. But I doubt it.

  71. BacaryisGod

    Let’s get realistic for a moment.

    Our two leading players have a year left on their contracts. They lead the team to a 5th place finish in the league last season. What makes us seriously think that buy tying them down to an extension it will suddenly turn us into title contenders?

    They both want massive increases to renew. That’s their choice of course and they have every right to seek us much as possible. But you can’t have it both ways. They both know that what they are asking for will severely weaken Arsenal’s ability to strengthen the rest of the squad.

    Consider Kevin Durant, who took about 7 million less than he was entitled to take so that the current NBA champions the Golden State Warriors could bring back other free agents. Now that’s someone who has a true winning mentality.

    When it comes to Alexis, neither Arsene or Ivan will escape the carnage if we sell him to Man City and it looks like he’s pricing himself out of a move to Bayern.

    If we can’t sell him to City or Bayern and he is asking for an insane amount to stay then we’ll just have to keep him until his contract runs out. We’ll have probably had 4 excellent seasons at him and these days 31.7 million and 130k per week looks like an absolute steal. If he were to sign for another 3 years in addition to next season at 350k per week that’s around a 70 million investment in a player who is likely to wear himself down before then and will be nearly 33 at the end of the next contract.

    Now let’s take the contrarian point of view. What if Man City were to offer us around 45 million for him this summer? How much of a difference will it be facing a front line of Alexis-Aguero-De Bruyne to Gabriel-Aguero-De Bruyne, Sterling-Aguero-De Bruyne or even Sane-Gabriel-De Bruyne? The way I see it, Man City are so loaded in this area already that adding Alexis will not have as huge an impact as if we were to sell someone like Koscielny to them. That’s where they really need the upgrade.

    I’m just not sure if Ivan and Arsene will have the balls to rile up the rabid fan base further by selling Alexis to Man City. Overall, I’m still in favour of keeping him here for his final season. It might be a little awkward but for once we could go into a new season with a terrifying front 3.

    We have but one card in our favour and that’s the risk assessment for Alexis. If he plays out the final year of his contract, he’ll be giving up a minimum of 8 million by not renewing or being sold. Then what happens if he suffers a bad injury? By renewing with us or being sold, he’s guaranteeing himself 60 million. By staying for his final year, he’s putting all that at the mercy of the injury gods.

    Maybe, just maybe he’ll see the safest course of action is to renew with us for 4 years and let us slap a reasonable release fee for non-English teams (50 million) and a much harsher one (80 million) for English teams. He’ll get his 60 million locked in and can continue playing his heart out without fear of a career-ending injury.

  72. Alexanderhenry

    Pedro

    Got to say, this is an excellent analogy:

    ‘Arsenal are that family that thinks they’re normal, but it’s mostly because everyone lets the bad behaviour slide. Sure, Christmas went past nicely, but no one mentioned John streaking in the woods, no one address Sally’s 4th marriage in 2 years, and no one asked how Dave can afford a Jaguar when all he does is stay home and get stoned all day.’

    For me, most arsenal transfer windows are like being in a medieval torture chamber, only without the physical pain- just the mental anguish and feeling of utter hopelessness.

    Still, you never know, we may actually make all these signings and keep sanchez, in which case it will feel like being rescued from a soviet gulag.

  73. Redtruth

    Jens Lehmann slams ‘disrespectful’ Arsenal fans who hired plane for Arsene Wenger protest

    Disgruntled supporters paid for a plane to fly over the Hawthorns during Arsenal’s defeat against West Brom at the weekend

    COMMENTS
    BYHAMISH MACKAY
    10:16, 22 MAR 2017UPDATED10:17, 22 MAR 2017

    Jens Lehmann has his say on *that* banner

    Jens Lehmann has lashed out at Arsenal’s fans after a section of them hired an aeroplane in a bid to help them oust manager Arsene Wenger.

    Disgruntled supporters paid for a plane to fly over the Hawthorns during Arsenal’s defeat against West Brom at the weekend. It dragged behind it a banner bearing the words: “No contract #WengerOut”.

    While Lehmann — the last Arsenal goalkeeper to win a Premier League title — accepted fans’ frustration, he argued this latest move was a step too far.

    “That is so disrespectful,” Lehmann told The Sun. “The players should have tried to hit that plane with the ball, to defend their manager.

    “A single guy comes and holds a banner up, that’s his opinion, fine. But hiring a plane? Come on, it’s too much.

    “The people that hold up their banners saying ‘Wenger Out’ don’t hold up banners saying they want x, y, z to come in because this guy will guarantee success.”

    Arsene Wenger is under a lot of pressure (Photo: PA)
    Lehamnn also poured scorn in the notion that a new face will solve Arsenal’s problems. Dortmund’s Thomas Tuchel and Juventus coach Max Allegri are among those touted as possible replacements, but the former Germany international is not convinced.

    He added: “Bring Allegri in and we will win everything? Who is Allegri, with all due respect? He is in Italy. Will somebody like him bring success?”

    Lehaman is another Wenger yes man..lol lol lol

  74. Marko

    Arsenal do have other targets but whether or not more signings are made is likely to depend on what happens with the likes of Alexis Sanchez, Mesut Ozil, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Jack Wilshere, all of whom are out of contract in a year’s time and have been linked with moves away from the Emirates.

    Typical. We buy one player and unless others go we won’t be buying. Make no mistake it’s not because of an accumulation of too many players but rather thinking these guys are good enough and unless they leave we won’t sign anyone. Let that sink in a second unless Jack Wilshere leaves we won’t be signing a midfielder, unless Walcott or Oxlade goes we won’t be signing up another attacker like Lemar. Club is literally one step forward two steps back always.

  75. Dissenter

    BacaryisGOD
    “Now let’s take the contrarian point of view. What if Man City were to offer us around 45 million for him this summer? How much of a difference will it be facing a front line of Alexis-Aguero-De Bruyne to Gabriel-Aguero-De Bruyne, Sterling-Aguero-De Bruyne or even Sane-Gabriel-De Bruyne? The way I see it, Man City are so loaded in this area already that adding Alexis will not have as huge an impact as if we were to sell someone like Koscielny to them. That’s where they really need the upgrade”

    I am the contrarian. I’m not sure Alexis will improve City that much.
    I would drive him to city if the pay 50-55 million.
    This is not the Van Persie situation. United needed a striker; city already have Aguero and Jesus. Alexis is a ball-hogger who will be running into other people’s spaces. He won’t start at city and he won’t thrive [like he did with us]
    Call me the dissenting contrarian.

  76. Marko

    For me, most arsenal transfer windows are like being in a medieval torture chamber, only without the physical pain- just the mental anguish and feeling of utter hopelessness.

    Best thing you’ve said all year Alex. It’s why it’s not worth getting excited over just yet. There’s every single chance that the club will think a 50 million striker and a free LB will have us competing again. It won’t it’s not enough. Buy a striker great but unless you address the dross around him or the midfield and defence then it’ll end up meaning fuck all. It’s like the summer we bought Ozil people thought great we’re gonna step up to elite with that signing but then we never addressed the striker position honestly until now so it’s almost like wasting 3/4 years of Ozil. Look if we do not make more signings to the starting 11 this club is in for another struggle next season. Simple as. Instead of waiting until Sanchez leaves before you address areas why not address areas and convince him to stay

  77. Joe

    Dissenter.

    Is he going to make us title contenders?

    Is he going to help us make up 18 points?

    Is he going to take us to the next level?

  78. Marko

    Dissenter with all due respect that’s a load of nonsense. Alexis Sanchez is a consistent goalscoring attacker/wideman who also assists. He takes an absolute dump on anything Sane, Jesus, Sterling or really DeBruyne has done (bar one season) the last number of years. Now that’s not to say I don’t rate those other players they’re all fantastic but Sanchez is honestly better. It’s so rare these days to find a non striker who scores like a striker. On a consistent basis I can honestly off the top of my head think of Sanchez, Neymar, Bale, Reus used to, maybe Hazard even though he should score more. Ribery and Robben used to.

  79. Cesc Appeal

    I really dislike the whole ‘who comes in and guarantees success’ argument, it is not the point at all.

  80. Marko

    I really dislike the whole ‘who comes in and guarantees success’ argument, it is not the point at all.

    It’s a pathetic argument a certain type of fan has made over the years as an excuse for the club not signing players.

  81. Dissenter

    Marko
    You realize that Alexis has actually been in a big club setting right?
    I’m not making stuff up, you can use the Barca template.
    When he was in Barca he was behind Pedro and he warmed the bench. Running in from the wings is not his strength, he still has to cut into the middle to be effective. He ended up running into Messi’s space.
    I’m not saying Sanchez is not world class. I’m just saying that he wont get the minutes he gets at Arsenal.

  82. loyika

    But Marko

    This would all depend on what formation Pep intends to play? Do you for once think Pep will build the team around Alexis like his Barca team was built around Messi.

    At Citeh Alexis will not be the main man. How will he react to being benched like Kun was for Jesus. Frankly if he goes to Citeh it might not end up well for him as he feels it will (i personally feel he would have prefered Bayern, but unfortunately they don’t feel he is worth the money he is asking for in terms of wages)

    Lets see how it all pans out.

    @ Joe

    The onus is for “The Team!” to gel first off, then the individual players can do their bit to get us over the line. The EPL is not La Liga where a Messi or CR7 can single handedly win you the league. As long as Arsenal get a good squad to compete, fair enough.

    The Spurs team which many on here love so much(!?) have a team which then allow the Kanes and Allis to do their thing. So Laca needs the rest to play their part so he can concentrate on what he was bought to do, which is score goals. At least give the guy a chance before all the aggro. (he could still deliver his own biy and the rest of the team play shyte, will that still be his fault?)

  83. Southernpeople

    I don’t see anyone talking about our newest Purchase, lacazette!!! How good is this guy? I knew him when he was a teenager but never seen since. He’s high price tag suggests he’s world class player, is he?

  84. Marko

    When he was in Barca he was behind Pedro and he warmed the bench

    City ain’t Barcelona though. He played a lot though at Barca. Look he’s better than Sane, and Jesus and others.

  85. loyika

    I doubt in Pep’s eyes he is better than Jesus. I feel Pep sees Jesus as his main striker. Basically Citeh right now are “Top heavy!” if they add Alexis, it will look good on paper, but will have to gel quickily and Pep doesn’t suffer fools likely (i don’t think he has the time or patience at Citeh to give any player a pass this season)

    So if Alexis gets a dip in form, its the bench automatically for him (would love to see how he reacts then)

  86. Dissenter

    I can see Alexis running into Aguero at full speed whilst going for the same ball. Both of them are hotheads and they start slugging each other in the field. Jesus will pray for both of them.

  87. Joe

    Maybe Pep sees Sanchez as a Better fit for city than he did for Barca. PL
    A better fit than la liga.

    Who knows but I really don’t believe wenger is stupid enough to sell
    Him to city. Oh wait.. yes I do

  88. WestLondonGoon

    Don’t rule out bids from Chelsea or United for Alexis; he would definitely get game time at either of them.

  89. ArseneisaFraud

    I didn’t realise that AW got a mention on Have I Got News For You show dated 5th June. Transcript:

    Victoria Coren: What’s the good news that’s been announced amidst all the gloom about the state of the world?

    Paul Merton: AW signed a 2 year contract? Ian’s (Hislop) very pleased…

    Great to see that even that kind of show can take the piss out of AW!

  90. Thanos

    Antonio Rudiger the Chelsea target said my heart beats for arsenal shame we are not shopping for a top cb he would be great

  91. Dissenter

    Rudiger is actually cheaper than Mustafi.
    I gasped the moment I saw the price tag. He is a strong and lightening quick lad. He is not a good defender too though just more of an excellent athlete.
    I don’t think we need a defender !!!!!
    Chambers has done enough to get a run in the senior team.
    He has done better than Jack at the very least.

  92. HillWood

    What the fuck is Lehman supposed to do?
    He was a fantastic keeper
    Steve Bould was a fantastic defender
    Now Bould just sits on the bench looking bored
    Lehman will be no different
    Lehman will just morph into Wengers lapdog

  93. Cesc Appeal

    Dissenter

    I have read they may use Rooney in the deal, not sure if that will bring the cash amount down. There were rumours United wanted Kane, but in this market the price for Kane would be unthinkable.

  94. David Smith

    I suspect this Lehmann appointment does not come from Wenger, and is part of some sort of compromise, so hopefully, he will be given a full voice.
    We have now appointed an under 23 GK coach, and an Invincible keeper, in ostensibly a first team general role, but surely there to help out keepers after years of Peyton ruining them.
    Just shows the madness in Wenger a couple of years back, getting rid of the rated Tony Roberts, making the useless, and crocked Gerry Peyton the clubs only major keeper coach, all in an attempt to bolster peyton after our keepers started questioning him.
    Mad Jens, Burgess….who Aussies tell me is the real deal, no charlatan are Gazidis appointments that Wengers has been forced into accepting. His yes men, Colbert and Peyton have surely been fatally undermined, despite the new deals. Just hope there are more newcomers to come to dilute Wengers cast of idiots

  95. salparadisenyc

    Thats post Red China money.. nobody going to pay £400k per week in Europe or England for Sanchez. Messi and CR7 on less.

  96. Samir

    Messi has just signed a 500K per week deal.

    The most we should go for Sanchez is 250K though. More than enough. Ozil 200K.
    They’re both on 140K per week at the moment aren’t they.

  97. Leedsgunner

    We have taken the momentum away from Sanchez and given him a powerful reason to extend his contract with the club… with the signing of Lacazette.

    Just think about it for a moment — in the summer that RVP that laid down his ultimatum about ambition to the club — what if we signed Özil as a response at the beginning of the window? Could we have convinced him to stay? Maybe.

    One signing doesn’t repair years of transfer bungling but this is a great early signing.

    We need to follow this up by shipping out our deadwood and keeping our players fit.

  98. Dissenter

    Alexis should stop all his drama and make his move. The Chinese transfer window is open and there’s talk there’s an offer on the table for him for 500k weekly.
    A move to China won’t jeopardize his national team place. It will also earn us some money to slap Monaco around with for Lemar.

    I read somewhere that autocomplete has been indudated with “Lemar” [French footballer] rather than “Lamar” [the musician]. Such is the power of bored gooners

  99. Dissenter

    Jens Lehman the goalie is not the same as the post-football character. Redtruth has been right to make the distinction.
    He is now another character trying to kill the boredom that follows a short career and ear some money. He will kiss Wenger’s ring and wash his boss’ [Gerry Payton] socks is need be to keep this job.

  100. Leedsgunner

    Will Giroud now throw his toys out of the pram and demand a move out?

    I’m not sure.

    It would not escape his notice that he is a French national striker partially because he plays for a high profile club like Arsenal. Would his chances improve playing for Everton? Perhaps if he was the main man but it’s a big risk especially in a WC year…

    Sell him for £25m if he wants to go with our blessing. For the money we paid for him he has been a solid signing.

  101. Bamford10

    Leeds

    I am not a big fan of Ozil’s, but Ozil and Van Persie could have been quite sweet together. Both very clever, and I think they would have understood one another well on the field. Plus that would have been 2012 Ozil, a better version, I think.

  102. Bamford10

    I don’t pretend to know what role Lehman will be asked to play on the coaching staff, but in the very least he seems like the type who might bring a bit of fire, a bit of passion, a bit of let’s-fucking-go-lads to the dressing room and training field. That would be something at least.

  103. Black Hei

    I think we should just play chicken with Sanchez and hold him for 1 year or get him to sign overseas.

    Give him until December to sign @275k, which is a great deal, or he can go for free. No problem. He turns 29 next year.

    We can even do a Lemar deal for next year in this window. Give Monaco 50m euros with the transfer effective only next season.

    We might lose 50m pounds but we save 30m euros with an upgrade on player quality plus we save a year of Sanchez’s increment on wages.

  104. Sid

    400 k weekly wages. Thats insane. Alexis is no Messi or Ronaldo. I think we should better sell him. Problem is that Bayern wont break the bank for him as they have a
    proper salary structure in place.
    As for Ozil, last time I heard a turkish club was after him. Clearly, nobody is interested. He is already getting 140k, more than what he deserves.

  105. qna

    “United have gone bat shit mad
    It seems they have lodged a 100 million bid for Lukaku.”

    Its not completely bat shit mad. They probably have around 150m every year to spend on transfers. But they will not continue to have that unless they quickly rejoin the ranks of Europe’s elite. Every year they are not, they jeoperdise their future commercials and this competative advantage.

    Right now their main deficiency is an elite striker. That cost them badly when Zlatan got injured. They should be willing to spend all of their transfer budget on one player if need be. Personally, I would have thought their were 2 or 3 better targets for them to attract. Surely Bayern would have been tempted with a 100m+ bid for Lewendowski, or they could have gone for Kane or Greizemann. But there is a strong chance none of these were available or willing. Lukaku is a known quantity in the EPL so if he is next best available then its not bat shit crazy. So then it comes down to paying whatever it takes to get the best man who is willing and available.

    Its pretty much exactly what we have done with Lacazette only on a smaller scale. I am not happy with Lacazette as our number 1 striker, but I have to face facts that we are a mid-table club that doesnt spend the money that is needed for better players than him. We can afford them, but we mismanage our spending and we are also no longer attractive for elite players. Even the one we have.

  106. Emiratesstroller

    If I was Arsenal and I did not want to destabilise our wage structure I would
    offer Sanchez a “signing on fee” of let’s say £10 million and hike up his wage
    bill to a more realistic £250K PW, which would be in line with most of the
    top ranked players in EPL.

    It would be a cheaper option than going out on market and having to buy a new
    player who is unlikely to be the same quality.

  107. Black Hei

    qna

    It is not bat shit crazy.

    It is not giving a shit.

    The next time round, as long United comes calling, the price quoted will be upwards of a 100m.

    I am not sure this is sustainable with all the illegal streaming going on.

  108. Emiratesstroller

    qna

    Man Utd have a real problem, because everyone on the planet knows that they
    will pay inflated prices when they buy players and until now there is very little
    evidence that they get good value for money.Pogba for example was worth
    probably £50 million at most and not what they paid.

    Lukaku is a decent striker, but not in my view a match winner in an average team. Morata the alternative is not remotely worth what Man Utd seem willing to pay. His goalscoring record is nothing to write home about.

  109. TR7

    100M pounds for Romelu fucking Lukaku?Makes Lacazzete deal look like a bargain. Objectively you would think both the players are of the same caliber. In fact Lacazzete is slightly better than Lukaku. United have financed Pickford, Klassen, Sandro and Keane deals in one stroke for Everton. Now they can buy Rooney and Giroud as well with a net outlay of merely 30-35 M. Can we somehow tempt Mourinho in to buying Ozil? :p

  110. Rambo Ramsey

    400k wage demand? The story originated from Daily fucking Mail.

    Don’t believe everything you read.

  111. Wallace

    “Maybe Pep sees Sanchez as a Better fit for city than he did for Barca. PL
    A better fit than la liga.”

    crikey, Joe just posted something semi-interesting that didn’t include a Wenger rant (although normal service resumed in the next paragraph…)

  112. qna

    Emirates. That is true, but we face a similar problem. So do all EPL clubs. My point is that United have a pressing issue. They had the worlds best brand in terms of football not long ago. Their commercials were greater than any other club in the world. Already that has been eroded and Madrid and possibly others have passed them by.

    So they don’t have the luxury of time. They must get back to the top to keep this money that everyone will then overcharge them for. Madrid has spent their way to having the worlds best brand. The precedent is there and recent. I don’t think that you necessarily get success by just throwing money at it. But it certainly papers over cracks in your approach.

    United desperately need a world class striker that will come in and essentially fire them to a title or close to it. There are probably only 2 or 3 players that can do that. Ronaldo, Lewendowski and Greizemann. I doubt any have been made available and I am not even convinced that Griezemann would guarantee the results they would expect for that outlay. They could possibly go to Chelsea for Costa who has EPL experience. I personally don’t think that Benzema is good enough at his current stage of his career.

    So otherwise they have really only Kane and Lukaku. Both EPL proven. I would not be surprised if Spurs have taken Kane and Alli off the table for at least 2 years. They can still sell them both later after all. That is what I would do if I were in charge of Spurs.

    So if the whole world knows that you have a single minded demand of which the supply available is essentially only 1 player, then it is simple economics. The market price is the entire amount of money available to spend.