Shades of summer 2012 with striker + Ignorant fans think we should sell young superstar?

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Gonna keep this super short.

As a heads up, I messed up the title of yesterday’s blog post because I drunk and wrote. Want to apologise to my family for letting them down, if only I’d known the consequences to site traffic of being so damn reckless.

Back in the game… and in North Carolina, which is like a more polite England.

Hector Bellerin has joined Barca. Sorry, I mean, he’s agreed terms behind the clubs back despite signing a new deal back in November until 2022. Good luck with that plan son.

I find it quite amazing that some sections of the fanbase are thinking this is a good idea. This kid is 22 years old, he’s not far off being the fastest player in the league, he’s great on the ball, he’s a good defender, and can I just say again… he’s 22 years old. Why the hell would you even entertain the idea of moving him on?

Can he get better? Yes. Could his final ball be better. Yes. Is there a better young right back in the league? You’d be hard pushed to sell me on that idea. Arsenal should go out of their way to convince him we’re the club for him. My favourite attribute of the Spaniard is his never-say-die attitude. An underrated gladiator.

Another player who is a ‘DO NOT SELL’ is Alexis Sanchez. The best striker in the league for me. Creates goals out of nothing, superb finisher, a good assister, can player anywhere across the front line… would string his own mother up if it mean he could win. The news on the wire is Manchester City are going to tie up a deal for him. Would Wenger dare hand the title to another Manchester team? I hope not.

This summer has shades of 2012 when Robin moved to United and we replaced him with Giroud. I’m seeing it now, Arsenal sell Alexis to City, then sign Lacazette as his replacement.

That scenario is way too real and it’s made me wet my pants in panic…

This summer is shaping up like it usually does. A lot of PR guff, with the real plan playing out secretly, ready for an August showcase.

Arsene hasn’t changed, but the PR has become more aggressive and fantastical to make you think he has.

P.S. I wrote this drunk. Sorry.

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270 Responses to “Shades of summer 2012 with striker + Ignorant fans think we should sell young superstar?”

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  1. gambon

    Not sure I 100% agree regarding Bellerin.

    In general Im of the opinion that you should keep your best players and sell the deadwood, and keepp on investing until you have a world class squad.

    That said…if Chamberlain is going to be number 1, then im not sure it makes sense to have a £50m backup wingback.

    In the 3-4-3 system you need at least one of the wing backs to be very attacking, and I think with Koasinac and Bellerin it would be a bit too defensive, almost a back 5.

    Im not sure that Bellerin or Chamberlain will settle for being a backup wingback, so something will have to give.

  2. Black Hei

    gambon

    You are right there, absolutely. Though I would tell Bellerin to battle it out for one more season until we get back to CL. If he can’t displace the Ox, we will let him go.

  3. loyika

    Would not be too worried about Bellerin, we hold all the cards and i really hope we tell Barca to go do one.

    And i also hope the club can stay strong as regards Alexis. Was of the mind set that we should sell him, but having given it some thought i would love the club to hold him to his contract and if he goes on a Bosman next year then so be it.

    We can still afford to go for Lacazette with Sanchez still on the books and one shouldn’t be dependent on the other.

    Like many have said; We really do need to start behaving like the Big Club we claim to be.

    Regardless we can be sure that Alexis will still give 100% (its in his nature) What might be the snag is if Arsene can overlook his tantrums and not let that cloud his judgement. Afterall Conte used Costa to achieve his goal and has now played his hand and told him to get lost.

    If we see no problems in going for “Freebies!” we should hold firm and use Alexis to achieve what we want and let him be next year if he still chooses to go. I think the Fanbase will understand and appreciate this spproach. Just hope the BoD don’t see this in economic terms over footballing terms.

  4. grooveydaddy

    Ahh, drunk blogging…what an excellent pastime!

    Might have to start one myself.

    Thanks for the inspiration, Pedro

  5. champagne charlie

    “I find it quite amazing that some sections of the fanbase are thinking this is a good idea. This kid is 22 years old, he’s not far off being the fastest player in the league, he’s great on the ball, he’s a good defender, and can I just say again… he’s 22 years old. Why the hell would you even entertain the idea of moving him on?”

    Think the narrative is being twisted a bit there, nobody is chasing Bellerin out the club they’re reacting to the idea he supposedly WANTS OUT.

    The comments I read were along the lines of ‘oh well, he’s under contract so we’ll get mega money and he’s replaceable’. Totally valid if you ask me. He’s most certainly NOT ‘great on the ball’ as suggested, and I’d argue he’s decent at best defensively.

    Look, Bellerin has mega potential and most would love to see him fulfilling that with us. But, if he wants Barca then they can stump up crazy money and take him. Talking about a right back here after all, if we replaced a prodigy at right back for a solid defender and improved our central midfield or striking positions I think that serves us much better.

  6. gambon

    Black Hei

    Yeah, I wouldnt sell anyone good this summer, but long term we cant keep wither Ox or Bellerin as a backup.

  7. ADKB

    We may just stop posting and dig up our posts from the past 5 seasons or so. It’s the same story.

    Instead of adding players to bolster our squad, we sell our best ones and buy a couple of ordinary ones. Then in January, possibly, there’s one or two panic buys. We fall off the pace around Feb/Mar and we hear, “We were very unlucky. Next season …”

  8. WestLondonGoon

    A cynic would suggest that Bellerin’s contract extension was purely to max out a transfer fee when Barca came calling.

    They didn’t replace Alves sufficiently, one of their ex-youth products has begun fulfilling his talent in England, so you wouldn’t need to be Nostradamus to see the usual Barca dirty tricks on the horizon this summer.

    We might as well start looking through Barca’s squad to see who we are going to get as part of the deal.

    They may be ‘more than a club’ but we are no more than an adequately run business.

  9. gambon

    There is no way the club will hold Alexis to his contract, absolutely no way.

    Assuming we get £55-60m for him, it would cost us about £62-67m to hold him to his contract.

  10. Leedsgunner

    Costa stating publicly that Chelsea don’t want him. Worth a cheeky punt? He’s probably will end up in China or Man United but hey… if you don’t ask you don’t get!

  11. Ishola70

    Would agree with the comments so far re: Bellerin.

    Pedro has totally overlooked Bellerin’s defensive weaknesses the season just gone. He was at fault for quite a few goals conceded due to his positional play.

    For sure he has potential but as others have said he is a right back. Right backs generally are not key players in a team and Bellerin is certainly not a key player for Arsenal at this time.

    I think most would prefer him to stay but will not lose any sleep if he returns to Barca.

  12. ArseneisaFraud

    Pierre

    that’s why there were some on here celebrating that he had re-signed…. that there were fans who were still making a clear standing ovation to Wenger vs Stoke?

    And most importantly your own comments says it all: so you think that pep, klopp and Pochetino have been trying to win the EPL for the past 13 years??? … or your glee that we have won 5 trophies…. clearly omitting that they are only FA Cup’s and Community shields which, i am sure you would admit, don’t compare to winning the EPL or CL?

  13. shaun

    that’s hillarious ,why would’nt wenger sell sanchez to the mancs .He has done it before and will do it again why is it people still think the man has morales he does not he is a business man .The problem here is wenger has fucked it all up before he has even started

  14. HighburyLegend

    Joke Thursday : what’s the difference between RVP and Sanchez ??

    None. They both signed for playing in the same town.

  15. Bergkamp63

    Bellerin doesn’t do enough in the final 3rd for me as a wingback, his delivery is generally poor, yes he’s 22 but he has been around for 6 years with us and reminds me of Glichy in that respect, waiting for someone to explode on a world stage (like Walcott) is not sensible, they either have it or they don’t.

    And just because he’s fast, does not make him a world beater, Aaron Lennon was pretty quick but again, no end product.

  16. Wallace

    Pedro

    “The news on the wire is Manchester City are going to tie up a deal for him. Would Wenger dare hand the title to another Manchester team?”

    nope. only way he joins another English club is if we hold him to the final year of his contract.

  17. Black Hei

    I doubt Sanchez is off to City……yet

    The man is a nut; when an international is on, don’t give him a ring since his brain is just on playing football.

    So I doubt any transfer has been confirmed.

    And I can’t see him going to City. They already have a very reliable goal scoring winger in Gabriel, a very creative wide mid in Silva and a very good goal scorer up tops in Augero. Their weakness is in the mid and their defence.

  18. Carts

    The chatter about Bellerin was premised on the basis that Bellerin wants out.

    It’s not unconceivable to hypothesise about Bellerin’s possible departure. Barcelona will be expected to pay £35m-£40m. We all know it. Then it’s about how we reinvest that money wisely.

    Personally, I’d look to Serbia and Croatia and see what their prospective talent is saying.

    Hysaj at Napoli is a good player. I really like Meunier but PSG won’t sell him.

    Personally, I’d prefer Bellerin on the right of a 3-4-3. Ox is hardly a goal threat.

  19. Leedsgunner

    “And I can’t see him going to City. They already have a very reliable goal scoring winger in Gabriel, a very creative wide mid in Silva and a very good goal scorer up tops in Augero. Their weakness is in the mid and their defence.”

    Their attack just became even more of a threat with Monaco selling Bernardo Silva to City for £43m as reported by the BBC.

  20. grooveydaddy

    Do you guys seriously think Ox is going to keep Bellerin out of the team (taking into account both fitness and form)??

  21. Jamie

    First time in a while I’ve felt aggrieved by a Pedro headline.

    I don’t recall anyone flat-out suggesting the sale of Bellerin; the debate was in response to his own recent flirtations with Barca in the press. The headline is misrepresenting the comments section yesterday.

    His defending needs work, his positioning needs work, his delivery in the final 3rd needs work. His only peak attribute is pace. Hardly world class, and replaceable with a 40m+ offer.

  22. WengerEagle

    Those Costa quotes are incredible, he scored 20 goals in the league so I’m not sure how that could ever be quantified as a poor season in front of goal.

    His relationship with Conte definitely fractured at some point mid-season though, didn’t he score 14 in his first 17 matches?

    I’d take him with my eyes closed, to me the guy is a beast as a CF.

  23. Carts

    Costa would never sign for Arsenal.

    As mental as he is, he’s a winner. He’d be beefing , weekly, with team mates.

    Wenger would besmirch him to the media, similar to how he did with Sanchez.

    Costa would then take the entire squad hostage at the Colney, armed with a sharpened cucumber.

    Anti-terror officer would storm the building and it would all be nuts. Reminiscent of Bedlan.

  24. Jamie

    “Anti-terror officer would storm the building and it would all be nuts. Reminiscent of Bedlan.”

    I hope you’re not referring to ‘Beslan’, the massacre of school children, as a punchline.

    Outrageous insensitivity.

  25. ADKB

    Highbury:
    ‘“Diego Costa, anyone?”
    you mean, for us ?? lol’

    Sure: He can be a pain in the you-know-where but who cares as long as bangs in goals? 🙂

  26. OleGunner

    Why would Costa downgrade to Arsenal?
    I’d take him but our manager doesn’t even have the stones to approach him.

    Probably need a Dein type to convince him to come like what he did with Sol (caveat there is we were serial winners back then and on the up).

  27. Carts

    Jamie

    that’s exactly what i was referring to.

    Far from insensitive; sounds like you’re being oversensitive.

  28. Jamie

    Carts –

    Glorifying, no. Obliviously insensitive, yes. Unapologetic, it would appear so.

    It’s ok to admit a failed and poor attempt at humour, move to redact it, and apologise.

    Your point about Costa being a warrior still stands.

  29. Marko

    Absolutely agree. Do not sell Bellerin unless you get ridiculous money. A handful of half decent games from Chamberlain does not make him better

  30. Emiratesstroller

    Arsenal need as I have said many times before to complete their transfer business by the end of June.

    That is how Bayern Munich have operated over several years and it would seem that Man City are working in similar fashion.

    Most clubs with money should know by now their major targets. In Arsenal’s
    case the main priority has to be a striker. Clearly Giroud is no longer considered more than a bench or occasional rotation player and Lucas is on his way
    out.

    For me there are only two options that Wenger might consider and they are
    Lacazette and Mbappe. The former would be my personal choice, because he
    is a proven goalscorer over 3 years and at 26 is reaching his prime.

    Mbappe may be absolutely brilliant, but can Arsenal really gamble on a transfer fee north of £100 million + commensurate wages on a 19 year old with just
    one year regular first team experience? Spending those figures would limit
    Arsenal’s budget elsewhere not just this season, but in all probability next season as well.

    Lacazette’s fee would be covered by sponsorship from Emirates and Puma so
    that there should be sufficient monies available from sales and bank balances to cover other positions, which need to be strengthened.

  31. Carts

    Jamie

    I should apologise to you and/or the whole of LG?

    If Pedro removes the comment then we’ll leave it as that.

  32. WengerEagle

    Still am not convinced that Chelsea will want Lukaku back, yes he’s had a great season but something about him to me still screams of tier below world class, I’m not sold that in big matches that he can be the difference so i expect Chelsea to look elsewhere for a Costa replacement.

  33. Ishola70

    Just as well ES that you would prefer Lacazette over Mbappe because the later is not joining Arsenal and to think so is living in dreamland.

    Arsenal have three realistic striker targets to go far this summer which is the best the club can get at this time discounting any real left field options. These are Lacazette, Icardi and Belotti.

    Considering Arsenal have not really been linked to either Icardi or Belotti thus far Lacazette seems to be the favourite.

    We cannot discount that Wenger brings in no new striker although if Sanchez does leave this summer this would seem inconceivable even for such a conservative manager in the transfer market such as Wenger.

  34. Marko

    Do you guys seriously think Ox is going to keep Bellerin out of the team (taking into account both fitness and form)??

    I’m a little surprised so many fans seem to be okay with Bellerin going and keeping Chamberlain. You wouldn’t have got this 12 months ago and its not like Hector had an abysmal season. It was alright. Says a lot about him that the likes of Man City and Barcelona would love to have the guy whereas Chamberlain wouldn’t even make the Liverpool team

  35. Carts

    Inter will wanted top dollar for Icardi. I think they rejected offer in the region of e55m+.

    I think we’d need to offer at least £60m for him. Personally, flogging Giroud, and the money raised from Ospina and Wojiech will get you 2/3 of the way there.

  36. Ishola70

    WE Lukaku is going to be a downgrade on Costa and I think you mentioned this before on a previous post.

    Lukaku does fit the type of striker Chelsea go for though but he is not on the Costa level.

    Aguero is the type of striker Chelsea do not go for even considering the quality of the player.

    Chelsea go for strong big centre forwards looking to continue the legacy of Drogba.

    Personally I think Belotti would be a better signing in the long run for Chelsea rather than Lukaku.

  37. Steveyg87

    “This kid is 22 years old, he’s not far off being the fastest player in the league, he’s great on the ball, he’s a good defender”

    Stopped reading the post after this part. Only thing going for HB is his pace that bails him out more often than not. Never say die attitude? Again, no grounds for this, he is one of the first players to fold under pressure. I’d say we have some good leverage to sneak one of Barca’s stars in some sort of swap deal for HB (Suarez in his twilight?), if their interest is serious, I’m sure we could do some business with them.

  38. WengerEagle

    Ishola

    Yeah you’re definitely right about that but I think back in Drogba’s days they were just a much more physical team in general, they had such a solid spine in Terry, Carvalho, Lampard, Essien, Drogba and even their flair players/wide forwards in Malouda, Duff, Robben, Kalou, Anelka were all physically imposing.

    Their current side is more about finesse with Hazard, Pedro, Willian, Fabregas, I only consider Costa an imposing presence in their forward line and Conte clearly doesn’t fancy him.

    I think he’d bite your hand off for a Sergio Aguero still in his prime, who wouldn’t outside of Bayern, Real Madrid and Barcelona.

  39. Carts

    Icardi, imho, is more classy and polished than Lukaku.

    Notwithstanding, I rate Lukaku very high and wouldn’t be averse to him joining us.

  40. Ishola70

    Yes WE more finesse in the Chelsea team now but I think they still like the big physical presence as centre forward.

    It gives them variation in attack rather than having all finesse.

  41. WengerEagle

    Ishola

    I’m a big fan of Belotti but for me he’s not as skillful as Costa is on the ball, he’s more of your traditional power house CF, terrific talent for sure.

    Would be a huge ask for him to step into Costa’s shoes next season, Aubameyang surely is the no-brainer if not a cheeky bid for Benzema possibly.

  42. WengerEagle

    As long as Spurs keep Harry Kane, they have a great shout at winning the BPL.

    Guy is the best CF in the league and guarantees you 25-30+ goals a season and averages 25 goals a season in the league, that’s huge.

    They’re very close to pipping Chelsea, 86 points is a remarkable season and wins you the league as often as it doesn’t.

  43. Carts

    Someone mentioned Lukaku not turning up for the big games…ironically, what seemed to be the problem was Everton’s creative players being out-manoeuvred and not being allowed to pick out Lukaku.

    Defender would smother him in twos.

    Obviously, no one focuses on that , as essentially, if your main man doesn’t bang then it reflect on him, period.

  44. WengerEagle

    ‘Someone mentioned Lukaku not turning up for the big games…ironically, what seemed to be the problem was Everton’s creative players being out-manoeuvred and not being allowed to pick out Lukaku. Defender would smother him in twos.Obviously, no one focuses on that , as essentially, if your main man doesn’t bang then it reflect on him, period.’

    That’s fair, however Lukaku for me isn’t a striker capable of the ingenuity of creating goals himself which for me is what separates a good striker and a great striker, players like Suarez, Lewandowski, Higuain, Benzema, Aguero can create chances for themselves in ways I don’t see in Lukaku’s game.

  45. Ishola70

    Yeah Costa is going to be difficult to replace WE.

    I mentioned Belotti because he is the typical strong big physical CF with talent.

    Talking of talents have you seen the kid Lammers at PSV? Looks a good one.

  46. Carts

    Wenger won’t flex on Barcelona.

    He’s a bitch when it comes to playing hard ball.

    He hates it when teams quote extortionate prices, so in turn, he tends to avoid doing it himself.

    Bellerin won’t leave for anything over £40m. I think it’ll be mid-£30m if he does leave.

  47. gambon

    WengerEagle

    My list would be:

    Aubameyang
    MBappe
    Costa
    Morata
    Lacazette
    Lukaku
    Icardi
    Belotti
    Keita Balde

  48. Leedsgunner

    I think Belotti is off to Chelsea especially with Conte there.

    If rumours are to be believed, Belotti has an £87m release clause… No doubt Chelsea will want to off load some of their squad to recover some of that money.

    If Conte was open to the idea £30m for Costa would be a great buy. Remember he’s settled in London and a purchase like that might just convince Sanchez and
    Özil to sign a new contract.

    Anybody know much about Tammy Abraham? Apparently he’s Chelsea’s brightest attacking prospect their at the moment. If Belotti comes in, I reckon it might worth a punt on him for the future…

    Although the priority has to be getting rid of deadwood. Just as important as bringing in new players.

  49. WengerEagle

    Ishola

    Belotti’s top drawer in the potential stakes alright.

    No must say I never catch Eredivisie matches, not like the good old days there where it was crawling with talent, how good does he look?

  50. gambon

    I though Lukaku was going to Chelsea? Hence Costa being out in the cold?

    Costa, Ozil, Sanchez would do some damage, no doubt.

    I do think Costa is a bit of a cunt though. I think he tried to go to CHina in January and Conte never forgave him.

    Also I dont think Sanchez is staying.

    If Sanchez leaves I dont think it matters who we sign, it will be a horrible season

  51. WengerEagle

    gambon

    I like that line-up, surprised you have Lacazette higher up than the other 4 tbh though, is that just down to the amount of goals he’s been banging in for years now?

    M’Bappe is different gravy but he won’t go for below 100 million, Monaco are no mugs and strike a mean deal when selling players.

    Morata is quality but he still has a question mark above his head due to not starting enough matches, we’ve seen specialists in scoring off the bench plenty of times before, being a relied upon focal point of the attack that is good for 30+ goals a season is a different animal so he carries an element of risk, that’s not to say he wouldn’t be up for the task.

  52. Ishola70

    Lammers looks very good WE and seems to have everything in the locker to be a top drawer player.

    I’ve made mention before myself about the declining standard of Dutch domestic football but this kid you can see individually looks like he has a really bright future.

    PSV also have a young Icelandic player called Gudmundsson attacking midfielder who looks a handy player.

  53. kenyangunner

    “Costa would then take the entire squad hostage at the Colney, armed with a sharpened cucumber.”
    ….funniest comment ever!

  54. WengerEagle

    Costa’s strangely underappreciated by the Chelsea fans, he’s likely miffed that he’s not revered as Drogba was even before his UCL heroics because he’s been their top scorer in two league title campaigns.

    Worth noting that in just 3 seasons he’s already replicated Drogba’s record of two 20+ goal seasons in the BPL when Drogba played 9 seasons for Chelsea.

  55. gambon

    WengerEagle

    I just think Lacazette is a good player. Think he gets a bit of hard time.

    Great scoring record, and improving year on year.

  56. TR7

    Lukaku is really average, I don’t think he is any better than Giroud. He is more mobile than Giroud, perhaps the only reason some prefer him over the French striker.

    PEA, Mbappe, Bellotti, even Icardi and Lacazzete are better than him.

  57. Leedsgunner

    The talk around Belotti reminds me of the buzz that was around Dybala two summers back… no doubt, Wenger is adding him to the I tried list already… closely followed by Mbappe.

    After he fails he will blame the lack of Champion’s League football for the reason why he couldn’t sign top players… and will lamely he say that he couldn’t find anyone better than Giroud and Welbeck in the market at the moment. How depressing is that? If Sanchez goes we will back to Giroud leading the line…

    Of course, his acolytes will lap up his excuses and say we should feel sorry for Arsene. Nope. This is a mess he has created himself.

    The lack of Champion’s League football is the most lame and infuriating excuse of course. Even when we had Champion’s League football, he happily bought dross players.

    Park, Chamakh, Squillaci, Santos, Gervinho etc were all bought when we had Champions League football…

    More often than not, Wenger comes up short in the transfer market because he doesn’t plan. He reacts… because he reacts he overpays for average players and misses out on superstars.

  58. Bamford10

    “Why are we selling Juventus Szczesny for £14 million when they are selling players like Pogba for £89 million?” – @kissmyarsenal

    Anyone else think we could’ve gotten more money for Szczesny? Note that City just signed Ederson for £35m.

  59. Leedsgunner

    ““Why are we selling Juventus Szczesny for £14 million when they are selling players like Pogba for £89 million?”

    Because we have numbnuts at Arsenal for negotiators. Makes you think, if he was worth so little why did Wenger persevere with him for so long?!?

  60. gambon

    I do think we couldve got more for Szczesny, that said he’s got one year to go and hes not a superstar. Juve wouldve been happy to wait 12 months as well I reckon.

    Im just glad we are finally selling players.

    The last few years Wenger has just refused to accept that we need to freshen up.

    I have a very definitve list in my head of who I want to leave:

    Szczesny
    Ospina
    Jenkinson
    Debuchy
    Gabriel
    Gibbs
    Wilshere
    Coquelin
    Toral
    Campbell
    Perez
    Wacott
    Akpom

    And it seems we are starting to see this happen, which is good.

  61. Ishola70

    you can’t compare Szczesny to Pogba and this Ederson.

    The Pole is seen as surplus to requirements at Arsenal by Wenger.

    Pogba and Ederson the opposite by those selling clubs.

    That’s the simple answer to that twitter guy.

  62. WengerEagle

    Yeah as much as I like Szczesny, was always going to be difficult to strike a hard bargain for our 3rd choice GK with a year left on his deal.

    I think that talent-wise he’s better than either of our GK’s but we need better than all 3, only Liverpool have worse GK’s out of the top 6.

  63. Bamford10

    Ishola

    That twitter guy is actually a smoking hot blonde woman. But I’m not sure I agree with your take: it’s not just a matter of how much we (the seller) value him, it’s also a matter of how much they (the buyer) value him.

    Do they see Szczesny as a starter? If so, then we could’ve/should’ve gotten more money. If not, I agree with you. Not a big deal, regardless.

  64. Bamford10

    TR7

    I wouldn’t go as far as to say Lukaku is “average,” but I agree that he would be further down my list. Little dribbling, little guile, no combination play, and I don’t think he does well against better defenses.

  65. Ishola70

    A hot blonde eh with a moniker of kissmyarse. Sounds good.

    No wonder you follow her Bamford.

    Well we know how much Wenger values Chezzer which is not really that much and Chezzer has already been informed by Juve that he shouldn’t expect to be first team choice next season with Buffon apparently wanting to carry on through next season so rather an understudy for a period.

    So that’s how we get to the price that is being quoted.

  66. Dream10

    Aubameyang off to PSG on a 14m euros a season salary.

    Diego Costa’s agent Jorge Mendes is said to be negotiating with Milan. They wanted to sign Alvaro Morata, but it seems Man Utd are willing to pay big money for him. There’s also a report today that Morata might be interested in staying at Real Madrid.

    Lukaku’s agent Mino Raiola wanted to steer him to Man Utd, as he already has three of his players at the club (Ibrahimovic, Pogba, Mkhitaryan). But, Lukaku wanted Chelsea all along.

    Mbappe and Ousmane Dembele are the best attacking talents on the market. They are not far off Sanchez’s production in terms of goals/assists as teenagers and being ten years younger. Both will be comfortably better than him in three years time. Mbappe looks like he’s staying put this summer. Arsenal should look to bring in a #9 (Lacazette likely, but Cavani as first option as he might be available if Aubaymeyng has signed), Dembele (he’s headed to the top, but he might hold out for Barelona or Real), Lemar and a CM. We’ll be better with three players of that caliber even Sanchez is sold.

  67. WengerEagle

    Dream10

    Means Cavani is off, no? Shit, I’d take him, dude’s a machine in front of goal.

    Think Belotti is now AC Milan’s no.1 target now and helps that he’s supposedly a childhood Milan supporter, Morata IMO will end up at United or Chelsea [Conte link].

    I remember watching a video with a Dortmund fan that spoke great English on Arsenal Fan TV and he stressed that Dembele was the most talented player to ever wear the Dortmund shirt and had been their best player this season, even including Aubameyang.

    Not bad for a teenager in his first season abroad.

  68. Moz

    I think if Spurs are putting a £60 mill price tag on Walker, then Bellerin with 5 years remaining on his contract and is arguably the top young right back in world football is surely worth closer to £80 mill?

    Is it just me or does it always seem like we let players walk out on the cheap?

    Not saying we will or should let Bellerin go by the way!

  69. WengerEagle

    80 million for Bellerin? Lol, no chance.

    60 million is just a way of Spurs telling suitors to fuck off, they’d snap anyone’s hand off for even 2/3 of that amount I reckon.

    Full-backs don’t effect the game in hugely meaningful ways in the same way as midfielders/strikers/CB’s, unless you’re dealing with a prime Dani Alves paying anything over 30 million for one is foolish.

    For that kind of money you’d want somebody like an Alves in his prime or Marcelo who covers an entire flank and contributes heavily to the attack, Bellerin doesn’t do this.

  70. Dream10

    Wenger Eagle

    That’s some praise. Quite a few of Aubameyang’s goals were put on a plate by Dembele. At 19, he’s already done more in the CL in one season than Hazard & Sanchez at their age, two stars of the PL Remember last season, Romford Pele was one of the first to hype him up. This is probably our only genuine opportunity to sign him.

  71. WestLondonGoon

    Where does all this movement at Chelsea leave Batshuayi? I personally think he will be better than Lukaku in time.

    It’s not even mid-June and we are now one injury away from a goalkeeper crisis. !

  72. Moz

    Wenger Eagle,

    I agree with everything you say but I think the price being mooted for Bellerin seems cheap?
    Specially when Barca are well known for not paying up front!
    Anyway it’s irrelevant as Wenger will no doubt blow the money one way or another!

  73. Dream10

    WestLondonGoon

    Batshuayi wants regular football. Perhaps back to Ligue 1 to Monaco, Lyon or Marseille. Do you think he could be used as makeweight in the Lukaku deal?

  74. WestLondonGoon

    Dream10

    Yes could be a possibility, Everton will be full of ambition in the next few years; Koeman looks to be a man who knows what he wants as well, a lot like his playing career.

  75. Carts

    Looks like Auba is going to get the Cavani-treatment of playing wide, similar to how Cavani did when Zlatan was there.

    Their strike force is Cavani, Guedes and Auba, with the supporting roles from Lucas, Draxler and Di Maria.

    Mad!

  76. Carts

    Dream10

    “Do you think he [Batshayi] could be used as makeweight in the Lukaku deal?”

    I think this will be the most logical approach by Chelsea. If they do that then their better off keeping Tammy in the squad as back up, although I think he’s already signed for Newcastle on loan

  77. WestLondonGoon

    Anyone watching the u20s v Italy? 1-1 with 25 to go.

    Maitland-Niles playing as holding midfielder…..Everton’s Lookman looking very lively, in fact, they have four players in the team and all look very competent.

  78. Bamford10

    WE

    You were right about game three last night in Cleveland. The Warriors are just too good. Draymond Green said afterward that as well as Lebron and Kyrie we’re playing in the third, the Warriors knew they would tire in the fourth and the Warriors’ system would overwhelm them. Sure enough.

    As someone on Twitter said, 5 > 2.

  79. Ishola70

    England U20 take the lead now.

    Fully deserved on the run of play.

    This team looks a lot more mature in their overall play than some past England youth sides.

    Just lacked the final ball on some occasions.

  80. Ishola70

    Yeah England U20 look comfortable in possession which has been a past criticism of previous teams.

    Ojo has looked decent in this match.

    3rd goal keepers ball. Should have saved it.

  81. Steveyg87

    Looking at the likes of PSG, Juve, Chelsea and to a lesser extent Dortmund, the way they conduct their business, there’s no fcuking around. Get in early, do your business and close up shop before pre season.And then you look at Arsenal, kings of the last minute scrambles. Can’t see us breaking the trend this year, anyways.

    The Mbappe fiasco was perfectly timed for season ticket renewals, Funds aside, Wenger just doesn’t have the charisma to lure players of his mold

  82. N5

    Gossip has it that we put a bid in for James and Real said it was waaaaaaaaay under his valuation. Classic if true.

  83. Leedsgunner

    N5

    “Gossip has it that we put a bid in for James and Real said it was waaaaaaaaay under his valuation. Classic if true.”

    Did we offer Sanogo in a straight swap deal? After all, didn’t Wenger say he was our future £50m striker?

    Funny that Real Madrid didn’t see it that way. 😉

  84. Frost

    That’s right.. Sell the best young rb in the league who btw can play as a wb effectively & replace him with an average, i don’t know what my position is player who’s never had a patch of good form/fitness in his career till date. Makes sense that.

    We really do have a small club mentality. Maybe take a look at United & learn what you do when a big club(keep in mind degea’s head is turned) comes calling for your big talents. You tell them to overpay or fuckoff. 40mil for Bell? In this climate where everyone is overpriced? Really?

    Let’s even imagine in cookoo land that the Ox could keep up his form/fitness for a season, quality backup anyone?

  85. Jim Lahey

    @N5 –

    “Gossip has it that we put a bid in for James and Real said it was waaaaaaaaay under his valuation. Classic if true.”

    I read somewhere we offered €30m while Madrid want closer to €70m. Shameful behaviour from Arsenal once more if true.

  86. Jim Lahey

    If this James Rodriguez rumour has any truth to it, where does that leave Ozil? Doesn’t James play in the same spaces Ozil likes to occupy?

    To be honest, I would like to see us move Ozil on and bring James in, maybe Madrid would be interested in a straight swap? Ozil is still loved in Madrid, would be a popular move for the fans, also if all else fails he would be taking Jame’s bench spot.

    I have heard that James is a bit of a prick and that is the reason Zidane has frozen him out, does anyone know if that is the case?

  87. Joe

    Zidane wants James Rodriguez to stay
    Real Madrid manager Zinedine Zidane is keen to keep his Champions League-winning squad together – including James Rodriguez.

    According to Marca, the Real boss wants Rodriguez to stay as he bids to keep the core group of players together for another run at the double next season.

    Yet Arsenal make a derogatory offer. Should have added +1

  88. Steveyg87

    “That’s right.. Sell the best young rb in the league who btw can play as a wb effectively & replace him with an average, i don’t know what my position is player who’s never had a patch of good form/fitness in his career till date. Makes sense that.”

    Fans like you are the reason Wenger has a job a decade after his sell by date. Pace does not equal talent

  89. champagne charlie

    Joe with a complete lack of understanding when it comes to negotiating transfers…

    If Zidane says James is off or surplus then Madrids position is weakened. Much to the same effect Costas comments have left Chelsea looking pretty daft.

  90. Jim Lahey

    @Marko –

    “They just say that joe. He’s not keen on James”

    Didn’t James call Zidane’s mother a cunt when substituted during the season? I can’t can’t see either wanting to remain in the presence of the other.

  91. Steveyg87

    Pretty sure we could get Costa for half the price we would pay for Mbappe albeit the latter being 10 years older. In a game of fine margins, Costa would be a big influence not only with his skill set, but his mentality too.. He hounds referees on every decision that goes against him and having a pantomime villain wouldn’t do any harm would it? He’s got a good 3 seasons left in him. Sadly we know Wenger refrains from such characters

  92. TitsMcGee

    This summer has shades of 2012 when Robin moved to United and we replaced him with Giroud. I’m seeing it now, Arsenal sell Alexis to City, then sign Lacazette as his replacement.”

    That’s what happens when you have short-sighted fans who forget about all of the managers failings because he wins the last game.

  93. Steveyg87

    “If Zidane says James is off or surplus then Madrids position is weakened. Much to the same effect Costas comments have left Chelsea looking pretty daft.”

    Amen

  94. Frost

    Steveyg87

    Fans like you are the reason we’ll always have a small club mentality. Pretty sure you were championing the sale of Cesc back in the day, tell me again who we’ve replaced him with close to a decade after he left?

    VP to United. Again which striker of equal quality have we replaced him with?

    You. Keep. Your. Best. Talents. That shouldn’t be too hard to grasp.

    “Pace does not equal talent”

    Yup. Pretty sure i said that. And Bellerin isn’t talented? Good grief.

  95. Frost

    “Bergkamp63

    Fabinho might be a good replacement for Bellerin ?”

    Would love this if Bell were to push for a move. Problem is we don’t have a track record of replacing our top talents with better ones. Reason I’d keep Bell no matter what.

  96. Steveyg87

    @TitsMcGee

    Lacazette would be an underwhelming signing and has Wenger written all over him. Wenger has been made to look like a fool this season and still feels like he has a point to prove to the fans, even if its to the detriment of the team. His ego could never handle buying an out an out superstar( Sanchez and Ozil were not 1st tier at the time). Some way or the other, he simply has to get the credit, without it, his life is incomplete

  97. Pierre

    Steveyg87
    “Mbappe.. Wenger just doesn’t have the charisma to lure players of his mold”

    Just out of interest…. what sort of mould is sanchez…

  98. Joe

    Yeah. Games in the media really work regarding transfer prices.

    Jesus. These are grown men who all talk behind the scenes and if you think what zidane says in the media has any effect to raise or lower the asking price , then I can’t help you

  99. TR7

    Yesterday there were claims from Spanish journalist Gerard Romero and also from Chile that Alexis Sanchez could be just ‘days away’ from completing a stunning move to Manchester City from Arsenal.

    Spanish newspaper Marca has today refuted those claims, saying nothing is further from the truth. In fact, it is reported that Arsenal won’t even negotiate with Premier League clubs about selling their prized asset.

    Manchester City, however, will not give up. Their interest in adding Alexis to the attacking line-up is serious and Pep Guardiola wants him in sky blue next season after previously coaching the 28-year-old at Barcelona.

    Claiming to have their own information, Marca say that while Alexis is considered “non-transferable” by Arsenal, Arsène Wenger could rethink that stance if they can sign a player of ‘similar caliber’.

    It may not impress Gunners to know that Riyad Mahrez of Leicester is listed as their primary objective – implying he would replace Sanchez – but it is also said that they ‘dream of’ signing Monaco teen sensation Kylian Mbappé.

    City Watch has learned that Alexis and his representatives are very open to a move to Manchester City, but Arsenal are not keen at all on the idea, particularly Wenger who fears fan backlash if he sells the player without first landing a high-level replacement. Arsenal would prefer to sell Sanchez to Bayern Munich if he insists on quitting the Emirates.

  100. Steveyg87

    @Frost

    Cesc will go down as a black blotch next to Wenger’s name. I’m pretty sure 100% of the posters on here disagreed with the move, it was one of those cases where we couldn’t win. In the end he went, admittedly, I was more upset about Nasri, now there was a player that Wenger actually knew how to manage. To come back to Bellerin. We already have better on our books and dare i say it, its not one of our problem areas. We have bigger fish to fry, particularly in midfield

  101. Joe

    How did it help wenger telling the media cesc and Nasri weren’t for sale and we can’t be considered a big club if we did??

  102. Jim Lahey

    “Wenger could rethink that stance if they can sign a player of ‘similar caliber’.”

    This is the type of mentality that calls into question whether Arsenal are a “big club” or not. Willing to sell a player like Sanchez if a suitable replacement can be brought in.. Treading water, that is what this club has been doing since we left Highbury. Desperately trying to keep our head above water. We should be building the team, not replacing key elements every few years.

  103. TR7

    Got to say Bellerin is acting like a prick by repeatedly talking about his family. He didn’t miss them until Barca showed interest in him, did he ? He can fok off. Wouldn’t survive many seasons at Barca anyway.

  104. Steveyg87

    “Costa will sell for around 30m no matter what is out in the media”

    Don’t be suprised if he goes for over 60m mate, he’s the whole package, attitude to boot

  105. Johnsgiles

    Oh dear it’s going to be same old summer as it been since umm…seems like a life time. Man City already spent/wrapped up £78 million worth of deals (moraes & silva) and arsenal have spent ummm £0 (only a free). It’s goin to be same old, all the other clubs get their business done…summer drags on, arsenal/arsene do nothing, last few days of window mad panic followed by arsene/arsenal pr machine bemoan lack of qualiteee in the market /window. Why are they ALWAYS soo poor it’s like they either forget to set a reminder the window has opened or think it doesn’t start until end of August / September

  106. Pierre

    Steveyg87

    “It was London Sanchez chose, not Wenger”

    If that’s the case then why would he leave London to go up north to Manchester… Please enlighten me

  107. Marko

    Pierre clearly he was hoodwinked by the manager. Sold on an ambitious project but 3 years later and no league challenge or champions league improvement he’ll likely be off

  108. WestLondonGoon

    What do you American Gooners think about what’s happening at the moment with Comey currently proving he’s clearly not the ‘nutcase’ Trump took him for?

    Would love to be a fly on the wall of the Oval Office right now….