BIG ARSENAL MOVE (read the small print first)

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IT’S OVER.

The great battle for the future of the club is over.

The fans, weeping into their free gifted FA Cup scarves… just thinking about the horr…

Say what?

KYLIAN M’BAPPE FOR £87m… YOU GOTS TO BE KIDDING ME BOSS!

Come on people, you know the routine here, you always have to read the fine print.

Firstly, Arsenal are protecting themselves in this fake escapade because we know Manchester City and Real Madrid are interested. Our bid of €100m seems a bit pointless when Madrid have had a higher bid rejected.

Now, I appreciate the kid said he wants to play first team football. I understand that London is a massive draw for French people. However, let’s be real here. This boy just DESTROYED the Champions League. I very much doubt in a market so flush with cash, he’ll be heading to us to play out his dreams against Dinamo Minsk.

… and the bid has been rejected anyway.

The real story in this little PR stunt is Atletico Madrid have had a transfer ban slapped on them for interfering with minors. That means their summer signing of Lacazette is off. If you read the fine print of the original L’quipe story, you’ll see that they said we were parallel pathing by scouting him out as well.

A little bit like me eyeing up a super model at a Whisky Mist, then going home with the glass collector.

I mean, maybe I’m being a bit harsh here, he has scored 35 goals across all club competitions this season. Banging 28 goals in for Lyon in the league. He’s also managed to break 20 goals in the previous 3 seasons. Pretty sure he’s scored against us in the Emirates Cup and bagged an assist?

Anyway, I’m just not quite sure about him. You have to be totally real here. Lyon have been one of the greatest selling clubs of the past 20 years. Aulas their owner is the master of maxing value from players that quite often aren’t that good. When you have a player of caliber, they’re not often festering in Ligue 1 at 26. Last big goalscorer of that ilk was Olivier Giroud, and look, he scored goals, but was he the next level is the next level is the next level? Not really.

Also, if our chequebook really is that red hot at the moment. Shouldn’t we be hunting around Europe for other mega players? £87m is the buyout clause of arguably the 3rd best player on the planet (Griezmann). I’m not sure there are many players you couldn’t rip from their club with that sort of cash. I’m not a massive fan of Lukaku, but he bangs them in on the regular and he’s a bully. Auba at Dortmund? Belotti at Torino? Icardi at Inter?

There are lots of names I think are better than Lacazette.

People are saying this story is for the season ticket holders, I really don’t believe that. Regular folk will all sign up for another year of torture. However, the real challenge the club are having is with club level tickets, and corporate box tickets. Put your name down and have a go, you’ll probably get a call.

So whilst normal fans know this M’Bappe stuff is fantasy, old Patrick in corporate fun at a major bank will think that sounds lovely for international clients.

This is also a devious strategy to change the conversation… anything to pick the fans up off the ground.

Right, that’s me done.

Speak laaaaaaater x

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  1. Emiratesstroller

    Marko

    I have no issue in keeping Giroud as a squad player, but not as our first choice striker. Whatever we may think about him he has a good track record in scoring goals relative to time spent on pitch.

    In the case of Walcott I have wanted to see him offloaded long ago. Spending £140K pw on this luxury player who is unlikely to start next season is
    unwarranted.

  2. Marko

    Genuinely think it is because we do not have anyone at the club who knows how to really work the transfer market and player contracts the way a DoF might and that, concurrently and connected to this, Wenger has too much power.

    Yep. Quite amazing that instead of any kind of change anything even cosmetic change we’ll just continue as is cause Stan happened to witness an FA Cup win. Imagine what might of been had we gotten smashed. Even after the season we just had where for what felt like a solid month and a half the players simply stopped playing for him he’s kept total control. Only at Arsenal

  3. Dissenter

    The daily mail is truly a vile media outlet.
    They are running a story about one of the Jihadis that was shot dead by police who was wearing an away Arsenal shirt.
    Truly idiotic newspapers, as if this is of any news value. Are we supposed to feel embarrassed as gooners?
    They were also breathing the breath of live as human beings so all of the human race ought to be ashamed for them.

  4. Marko

    Stroller I would absolutely 100% get rid of Giroud. Not only are we not truly keen on him what with his various limitations that hinder us on the pitch otherwise why play Danny over him at times? Because even though Danny couldn’t hit water stranded at sea his pace and directness offer something Giroud doesn’t. But more important than any of that taking into account his age and what we could save on him and the fact that now we could get a decent price for him I’d sell him. What’s the point in waiting a couple years when he scores about 5 goals and we get a few million for him. No sell him now when teams are paying 20 million for average players

  5. Dissenter

    Welbeck and Walcott still have some commercial value, moreso Welbeck nice he’s now fit to pass a medical.
    We need to sell both of them ASAP in my book. That’s 220-240k saved in weekly wages and a combined £50 million added to th nttansfer kitty.
    There’s bound to be one player that can do what both failed to do. We can use the derived savings to fund that players wages and transfer.
    We are far too sentimental.

  6. Mark

    ” quite damning of Wenger but the inability over the years to offload the shite he’s accumulated is quite something. Took years to finally get rid of Diaby, Djourou, Denilson, Yaya ..”

    @Marko Very true . It’s already Damning that our best players​ ar s not happy to sign due to Wenger’s perceived lack of ambition in the transfer market!

    Why don’t they share Wenger’s view of this team not really needing much in terms of players ?

    Echoes what RVP Said years ago , and still rings true today.

  7. Dissenter

    Marko
    Giroud is the only consistently scoring striker we have, except for Sanchez. He won a lot of points for us coining from the bench. I believe his goal per minute ratio was the best in the premier league this last season.

    The issue is why would Giroud stay on the bench when his French national team place may be in jeopardy.
    He’s earned his squad place.

    It’s Walcott and especially Welbeck who need to be sold off.

  8. Steveyg87

    Cant see how 1st choice french striker would be happy with a place on the bench with us. Reckon Oli would do a solid job at juve linking up with dybala or atleti with griezmann

  9. Bamford10

    I appreciate what Giroud gives us as a sub, but we need mobility up top. There’s a reason Welbeck started in the FAC final despite his woeful finishing. If we can get 22m+ for Giroud, I’d sell him.

  10. Emiratesstroller

    Marko

    I would keep Welbeck for his work ethic and versatility, but realistically he is
    never going to be a great goal scorer. That has been the story at both Man Utd
    and Arsenal.

    Giroud is despite his limitations a goal scorer and that includes against good teams. We are not going to get a large pot of money because of is age
    and for that reason I would keep him as a bench player.

    Walcott still has a market value and can score goals, but he is and has always been a luxury player and if you are going to pay him £140 K pw you expect him to start in team. Frankly he is not good enough to do so because of his all-round game.

    I made the case at the end of FA Cup Final that we need more players who fight for the shirt and will work successfully in the team.

    That needs to be the focus when we buy players this summer and not what is their individual talent.

    We need to build a good all-round team.

  11. Dissenter

    Bamford,
    You’re happy with a “mobile” striker whose stock in trade are mis-timed kicks and air kicks three yards in front of goal.
    You’re happy to keep a striker who’s best premier league record is goals in the 2010-2011.
    A striker’s primary role is to score. He hardly ever scores. He can’t even strike the ball cleanly..
    His assist ratio is atrocious. The best scenario is a clumsy air shot rebounding to another player. He’s decision making in the 18 year box is infantile. He’s shoots when he should pass and makes poor passes when he should shoot.

    Giroud has earned his placed. Why is that hard for you to,accept.

  12. PhD07

    karimJune 4, 2017 11:43:29
    CescWenger said yesterday Ozil and Alexis would stay, even if that means they both leave for free the following year.
    Wouldn’t mind if Ozil left to be honest.
    Noise is psg have given up on Alexis. we’ll have to see what Bayern is thinking about it ..Gonna be an interesting summer for once.
    ——————————————————

    He said the same crap about Nasri & Cesc ..Only to bundle them off a week later..

    Don’t trust anything this twat(OGL/Arsene) utters..

    Sanchez is gone..That seems pretty much a done deal.

    I’m just going to continue to watch European Football.

    Arsenal will be just a dot on the map,in the grand scheme of things,whilst under the current regime.

    Absolute joke of a club..

  13. PhD07

    What’s absolutely astounding is that you sell RVP,Cesc,Nasri and possibly Sanchez..

    But keep Walcott,Gibbs,Jenkinson,Ramsey et al on board…

    Defies belief…

    Truly astounding..

  14. Dissenter

    Therein
    Therein lies the problem with Arsenal.
    Van Gaaal was spot on about Welbeck. They sold him and elevated another youngster who actually does not how to score. We are stuck with him and can’t see that he’s blocking the path for better players to emerge.

    He’s fit now. Use that window to sell him off ASAP.

  15. Bamford10

    Dissenter

    You’re missing the point. Giroud may be a better finisher than Welbeck — who isn’t? — but he is totally static and we are not as good with him in the XI. You cannot look at just the player’s individual stats; you have to look at how he creates space and chances for others. There is a reason a Welbeck started against Chelsea, a reason we stretched them and made life difficult for their defense and midfield. I like Giroud as a substitute goal-scorer in the final 20 minutes, but if we can get 22m for him, I’d take it.

  16. Dissenter

    Bamford
    There no use talking about Moussa Dembele etc when you’re happy to have goal-less Welbeck blocking their paths.
    Thee are many prolific youngsters in smaller league we ought to be taking a chance on. Even Perez didn’t get a proper shot because Wenger chooses to persist with Welbeck who’s a fine athlete but is diabolical at playing CF.

  17. Bamford10

    Madrid’s three CMs:

    Casemiro
    Kroos
    Modric

    If you model Arsenal’s midfield on Madrid’s, who plays where, who’s good enough, who’s not?

    For me, watching Modric yesterday underlined Ozil’s shortcomings. Madrid were smart to sell Ozil and keep Modric. The latter brings more to the game.

  18. PhD07

    DissenterJune 4, 2017 12:53:24
    Therein
    Therein lies the problem with Arsenal.
    Van Gaaal was spot on about Welbeck. They sold him and elevated another youngster who actually does not how to score. We are stuck with him and can’t see that he’s blocking the path for better players to emerge.He’s fit now. Use that window to sell him off ASAP.
    ——————————-
    Which better players?

    I’m all eyes…

    He’s Arsene level..

    We’ve dumbed downed the striker’s position.

    Arsene has no respect for the striker’s position whatsoever..
    We know this..

    Wright
    Anelka
    Henry
    Adebayor
    RVP
    Chamakh
    Giroud
    Sanogo
    Wellbeck

    Let’s not start with the back up’s to the above..

    So which path of better players is being blocked under Arsene?

  19. Bamford10

    Dissenter

    Which front three is better?

    Alexis____Welbz____Mahrez

    or

    Alexis____Giroud____Mahrez

    For me the answer is obvious: the first is better, because of movement, interchanging and combination play. This despite Welbeck’s shortcomings.

    This is in no way to say Welbeck is a great CF. He’s not. But I still think he gives us a better attacking front than Giroud does.

  20. PhD07

    Which front three is better?

    Alexis____Welbz____Mahrez

    or

    Alexis____Giroud____Mahrez

    For me the answer is obvious: the first is better, because of movement, interchanging and combination play. This despite Welbeck’s shortcomings. This is in no way to say Welbeck is a great CF. He’s not. But I still think he gives us a better attacking front than Giroud does.
    ———————————–
    Depends upon the opposition..

    But certainly inclined to agree with Wellbeck upfront,as he offers far more.
    More forward pressing,intensity,energy,combination play.as well as constant threats to the opposition’s back line..Despite his lack of goal scoring abilities.

  21. useroz

    In past years it’s evident Wenger has not been able to buy smartly hut more damaging is in my view the misuse of precious funds in topping up contracts of deadwood/ poor players. Many already named in today’s blog.

    Imagine the possibilities without all the money wasted on Dennilson, Diaby, Sanogo et al at the time…. surely we’d have afforded the extra couple of mils for getting Alonso! Or get another 25 to 30m player, Higuain anyone (again, not today’s value)?

    Can understand we’d extend Mert’s contract; can help Holding etc as 3rd/4th CB, but at reduced wage… Ditto Santi… can help transition but not to the like of Wilshere, Ramsey. These two need to be sold real quick. Useless when we needed ’em most!

    Giroud is an interesting case. A ‘big’ club should have a Giroud or experienced 29/30 yo like Mandu /Juventus. The issue is our #1 striker, or the lack of… Don’t know who; not paid 11m pa to find him! Not Sanchez sell him or not. Not Welbeck who should be sold if more able bodies are brought in.

    Absolutely need to move most if not all of these guys on:
    Jenk
    Debucky
    Sanogo if hasn’t already piss off
    Chambers
    Gibbs
    Wilshere
    Ramsey
    Elneny
    Walcott
    Welbeck -unless well under 100pw wage
    Ospina -get a first 11 goalie; Cech as backup
    …and wannabes in first team squad who haven’t stepped up including those on loan (meaning AFC paying most of their wages)

    Considering most in last 1 or 2 years of contract (poor contract management on Wenger’s part), these dozen or so players should still fetch 100m in today’s market.

    That adds to the reported 150m we have 250m and any half decent PL /Euro managers would do quite well with it, assuming not used to top up current contracts.

    Must get
    1x WC striker …70m+
    2x top MFs. …90m
    1x top CB. …40m
    1x top GK. …40m
    …and couple good kids eg Holding (tough but…)

    Need to keep Ozil and Sanchez to a price. Ozil not a 200+pw player. Sanchez ~250pw top. Don’t accept must sell. Adds close to another 90 to 100m.

    A top (forget WC) manager can see so many serious options where we are. Imagine what’s possible with 350m unless you are talking a new 5 year 80k pw deal for Sanogo who would become our “internal solution” to M’happe., another WC Wenger nearly signed!

  22. gonsterous

    to complete in the CL, you don’t just need good players but the training methods and tactics have to be spot on as well… something Wenger could never achieve… he fails in the first hurdle of getting in good players..

  23. Joe

    I would sell
    Wellbeck before Giroud.

    Could care less if he’s runs around a lot.

    Striker needs to score. Not be completely useless in front of goal.

    Your #1 striker should be your main goal threat. Not your #1 run around a lot
    And open up space threat

    Giroud is a great option off the bench. Keep him and play him as a sub

  24. Sky

    I will keep Welbeck because he is the type of player that can do a job across the attacking line (CF, RW,LW). His defensive attribute and ability to track back makes the team more compact when he plays on the wings.

    Based on circulating rumours, we may end up with the following:

    CF Mbappe or Aubameyang
    Wing Mahrez or Lemar
    Midfield Turan

    * Wenger is signing maximum of 3 players.

  25. Joe

    Auba and mbappe will both go to CL teams and not us.

    Turan at 30.5 and hasn’t played much the last 2 years is a wasteful signing. Not nearly good enough. But I hiss when all your aiming for is 4th , then he fits the role

    Marhez also wants CL. Other than money why would he come to us?

  26. Bamford10

    Joe

    So Giroud should’ve started over Welbeck in the FAC final? If he had, I submit Chelsea would’ve been up 1-0 at half on account of how limiting Giroud would’ve been to our ability to create space and attack.

    As for what a good CF should do, we agree, but Giroud doesn’t create space for others, so he fails your formula.

  27. WengerEagle

    Real Madrid have the best midfield three in world football, period. It’s why they dominate basically all of their matches including against the giants, Barcelona’s 3-2 win in the Bernabeu was a bit of a smash and grab/Messi in God mode.

    It’s their balance which sets them apart, Casemiro is the unapologetic anchor who knows his role and his discipline in holding that midfield is crucial to their shape, helps that he’s one of the top 5 tacklers in Europe and for added bonus has a cannon of a shot scoring the odd priceless goal.

    Modric and Kroos are as close to Iniesta-Xavi as you’re likely to find, not quite on their level but their chemistry is amazing and both are excellent on and just as importantly, off the ball.

    Then you have Isco dropping into those pockets of space between the strikers and the midfield, and in Marcelo they have the best LWB in world football, guy’s a monster and like Roberto Carlos in his prime, covers the entire left flank top to bottom.

  28. Marc

    Season ticket renewals is 8th June. The interesting thing will be if they get a big drop out as they’ve then got to reel in a some fresh bodies. If they get the usual up take level all these stories will disappear within 3 days.

  29. WengerEagle

    Moussa Dembele looks a player, have to remind yourself that most of his goals are being scored in one of the worst leagues throughout all of Europe though playing for the only half decent team in the league.

  30. Dissenter

    I’m a 100% certain that Arsenal are having trouble moving season tickets.
    I have a targeted web-advert assailing my home screen for hospitality. I know they had to reach far back as 2012 when I shared that with a group of people.

    Alexis is going to be sold just for money I think to the highest bidder even if it is premier league “rival”

  31. PhD07

    DissenterJune 4, 2017 15:33:43
    I’m a 100% certain that Arsenal are having trouble moving season tickets.
    I have a targeted web-advert assailing my home screen for hospitality. I know they had to reach far back as 2012 when I shared that with a group of people.Alexis is going to be sold just for money I think to the highest bidder even if it is premier league “rival”
    —————————————–

    Kind of absolutely surprised you needed that confirmation,that Sanchez would be sold to be honest.Based on a targeted web-advert..

    Arsenal fans are funny..

    You’ve seen the very same script played over and over again-nigh for a decade..

    But a targeted web-advert in June 2017 confirms your suspicions,that Sanchez will be sold 100%??!!

    LMAO..

    No wonder the club.gets away with what it does annually…

  32. Dissenter

    PhD
    I hope you are enjoying being the blog’s resident contrarian.
    I stated that I have never had web adverts from Arsenal for hospitality packages, not ever until….May 2017. Doesn’t that tell you something. Aren’t we supposed to have a waiting list? If so what’s the need for the club to spend money advertising an item that people are queueing for already?

    We are limited in how much we can spend due to the restrictions from the league. We have to move players out to be able to afford the type of money that Sanchez is asking for. That’s why I said that Sanchez will be sold.
    You obviously disagree.

  33. WengerEagle

    Of course Sanchez is sold, he’s available for free next summer and he’s a player that is easily worth north of 40 million pounds in today’s market even given his age and contract situation.

    Were it not for the contract, he’d likely fetch close to double that.

  34. Bamford10

    I don’t see us getting Mbappe. Not in a million years. But Aubameyang, Mahrez, Turan and Lemar would actually be a decent window IMO. Though I prefer Belotti to Aubameyang.

    Alexis_____Belotti_____Mahrez
    ______________Turan
    ______Lemar_____NewCDM

    Wouldn’t be terrible.

  35. Bamford10

    If the sale of Alexis is an inevitability, as some suggest, then I’d sign Morata to replace him wide left.

    Front three of:

    Morata_____Belotti_____Mahrez

  36. PhD07

    WengerEagleJune 4, 2017 15:49:35
    Of course Sanchez is sold, he’s available for free next summer and he’s a player that is easily worth north of 40 million pounds in today’s market even given his age and contract situation. Were it not for the contract, he’d likely fetch close to double that.
    ———————————
    So,why are Arsenal fans still speculating,still supporting a club,that literally defecates in their face yearly..??

    Did you watch RM vs Juv CL Final yesterday?

    Did you watch the CL Final -the previous year?

    And the previous year before that& so on& so forth..

    How far are we away from the elite..?

    When we have Sanogo/Wellbeck & Giroud as our front force.
    With the guarantee of offloading our Wide Forward/CF-Sanchez to our rivals..

    Absolute joke..

    Not you-The club..

  37. Joe

    Bamford

    I said this :

    Giroud is a great option off the bench. Keep him and play him as a sub

    No where do I say he should be our starter.

    We need a new #1 elite striker.

    Wellbeck should not be starting for us. Neither should Giroud.

  38. Ishola70

    Leedsgunner:
    “If this is true what was the point of moving to the Emirates then?Different year same excuses.”

    lol and so it begins and so early after him signing his new contract. Nothing is going to change. Zilch, Same old Wenger. Same old club. What people need to realise is that once Wenger got his new deal that virtually meant status quo remains right across the club. Winning the FA Cup and pretending to be seriously challenging for the real big honours is enough for these chumps and sadly for far too many of the fanbase.

    The only hope is that he works on and continues with the back three/five system. That is the only avenue where Arsenal may possibly gain more points in the league than recent previous season. But don’t expect pretty. It ain’t going to be pretty. Just means he may take on board some defensive responsibility within his team.

  39. Joe

    PHD

    Spot on!

    Leeds

    I said the same thing.

    We left highbury and league trophies and competing in the CL year in year out and players like viera. Db10. Henry. Adams. Overmars. Freddie. Pires. Brady. Wright. George. O Leary. Campbell. Jennings rocastle. Bastin. Etc

    For the Emirates to get considerably worse in the league(on average 12 points back) and a laughing stock in Europe(10-2) and for Giroud. Wellbeck. Ramsey. Theo. chamack. Sanago. Denilson. Betdner. Squillaci. Elneny. Etc

    Oh how could I forget. 3 fa cups.

    What a joke. Only reason we moved was to line the pockets of wenger and the board.

  40. Tonyd

    So selling Sanches and bringing 2 to 3 players in including new L B or excluding him?

    Then Wenger is going to tell us he can win the EPL.

    Utter BS in any language. Wenger means he can get top 4 to keep his job.

    Just can’t see how he’s going to do it.

  41. Boomslang

    Let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that clown is serious about challenging for the league.

    Remember, he missed HIS objective by 1 point.

  42. Ishola70

    That odious creature Gazidis once told a truth you know. True.

    He said years back we have decided on a path but it is not going to be easy.

    But how noble. And the values well speak for themselves.

    Too many mug fans.

  43. Tonyd

    Ah! But Wenger has told Stan and the press: Mirror in particular, that if he doesn’t mount a concerted effort for the league next season he’ll go quietly.

    It should have been written into his contract!!

  44. Joe

    Tony

    He also
    Promised a title last time
    He signed a 3 year deal

    The man is More
    Full of shit than trump

  45. Tonyd

    ishola70
    The path Gazidis was talking about was to make money; it had nothing to do with football trophies.

  46. GoonerDNA

    So apparently Wenger will leave if we don’t t challenge for the league next year.

    What the fuck does that even mean to Arsenal these days???

  47. Ishola70

    Tonyd:
    “The path Gazidis was talking about was to make money; it had nothing to do with football trophies.”

    lol I knew it was too much to think that the two-faced lizard would speak the whole truth. A half truth maybe.

    Yeah they know the set up is cushty for themselves but his message that day was for the fans of the club. He said it won’t be easy on the playing side and it’s not is it.

  48. Ishola70

    Wenger will just move the goalposts yet again in regards to this seriously challenging for the league next season backed up by his boy Kroenke and his bitch Gazidis and he will have mountains of excuses yet again to come out with when it yet again probably falls flat. His fans will lap it up.

  49. Joe

    Ishola

    We will make 1/4 finals of Europa and wenger will say we have improved this season so he deserves to stay and finish his project….

  50. Tonyd

    Wenger is citing Holding as the model of not needing to spend big to get real talent.

    You know what’s coming next …………

  51. Ishola70

    So we are going to have to put with for another two years speculation on Wenger leaving after this I will challenge for the league or go statement and as Arsenal winning the league in the next two seasons is a long shot we will see his smirk yet again when he informs us that he is stayng on again.

    Why doesn’t Wenger say that he will leave if he doesn’t win the EPL in the next two seasons rather than this vague challenging statement? Because he would have no room for his maneuvering bullshit if he really put his neck out.

    Club is completely transparent in their poor attempts to try to convince.

  52. Ishola70

    Joe:
    “We will make 1/4 finals of Europa and wenger will say we have improved this season so he deserves to stay and finish his project….”

    If Arsenal go deep in the Europa League real deep then that may not be a good sign. Could mean they are struggling to get top 4 again. But the mug fans will be delighted to win the second tier Europa League. Look at Man United last season they will say. It was good enough for them. It’s all about keeping up appearances.

  53. Do one gambon

    Yeah anyone that celebrates winning a trophy, any trophy is a ‘mug fan’…

    Its not the ones we really want, no. But no real fan will turn their back on a trophy.

    The bitterness of the hardcore Wenger outers is embarrassing.

  54. Marko

    For me, watching Modric yesterday underlined Ozil’s shortcomings. Madrid were smart to sell Ozil and keep Modric. The latter brings more to the game

    I don’t think it was ever a case of one or the other rather Ozil had to go to make room for James. I believe it was down to Ozil and Di Maria who left

    Alexis_____Belotti_____Mahrez
    ______________Turan
    ______Lemar_____NewCDM

    Also Lemar’s a winger not a CM. And Morata is a striker.

  55. Redtruth

    Wenger is too clueless to winning a European trophy..

    Ishola

    Winning Europa league guarantees Champions league football so hardly second tier.

  56. Bamford10

    “Wenger is citing Holding as the model of not needing to spend big to get real talent.”

    Alexander – Let me guess: Wenger isn’t saying the above because of his own hang-ups / principles about spending but because Stan Kroenke told him to?

  57. Ishola70

    Man United’s celebration of winning that Europa League was pathetic.

    The three fingers bollox. Embarrassing for them.

    They know deep down it’s not good enough but as said it’s all about keeping up appearances.

  58. Joe

    Do one

    You happy with 3 fa cups since we moved to the Emirates with the promises of so much more

    You happy with fa cup and being 18 points back of Chelsea and a laughing
    Stock
    In
    Europe?

    If you are then you are a mug fan

  59. Ishola70

    Redtruth:
    “Wenger is too clueless to winning a European trophy..Ishola Winning Europa league guarantees Champions league football so hardly second tier.”

    The competitors in it are second tier or top tier clubs that are failing at the top end so overall second tier competition whether it means Champions League qualification now or not.

    It’s like a raffle for those looking in at the top diners through a window.

    I think Wenger could win it if it meant his precious CL back again.

  60. Marko

    It’s all speculative bollox anyway. For years the cunts running Arsenal have failed continually to address squad issues and have a squad capable of challenging for honours. So I wouldn’t trust them with having to replace Alexis. No way. History tells you we’ll underwelm as per usual in the transfer market.

  61. Do one gambon

    No I’m not happy with 3 cups in 12 years.
    But I am content winning 3 in 4.

    As for the league, were far behind and it isn’t good enough and Wenger should have gone, you know full well I believe that.

    But I’m not going going to cut my nose to spite my face and not be happy winning cups. They’re still trophies and going to (as inbattending Wembley) 3 times in 4 years is fantastic, for the fan.

    Fly over and go to a game sometime, might give you a different perspective over being an arm chair critic.

  62. Bamford10

    Joe

    Right, but you said Giroud is superior to Welbeck, no? In that case he should’ve started over Welbeck in the FAC final, no?

  63. Marko

    Jesus bamford. Yeah but he’s a natural winger and Morata is an out and out striker hence why United are gunning for him. Any striker can play wide forward much like any full back could play centre back in a pinch. Also you had Lemar an attacking winger at the base of midfield. That would be beyond dumb. Just saying. It’d be like Man City buying Bernardo Silva and having him play deep with Fernandinho…a total waste

  64. Marko

    Also me thinks you haven’t seen enough of Monaco this season. That article was about a probably line up and had Bakayoko and Sidibe suspended/injured hence why they speculated Lemar would start in midfield. Did he in fact start that game in central midfield? Wouldn’t prove much anyway or did they in fact start with Fabinho in midfield and maybe Alamy Traore RB

  65. Redtruth

    Bamford

    The atrocities have highlighted Theresa May’s ineptness. She called an opportunist election and now she has blood on her hands..

  66. Joe

    Fly over and go to a game sometime, might give you a different perspective over being an arm chair critic.

    I’ve been to enough games at both highbury and Emirates.

    Trust me 3 fa cups Doesn’t paper over any cracks for me

    It’s a one off win in bad seasons in a 3rd tier trophy

  67. Bamford10

    No, Marko, I just had him as a CM within a three-CM midfield. Perhaps you misinterpreted my triangle, but that’s what I meant by it.

    Please show us a desired potential midfield and attacking front of your own. Just so we can see whom you would have where. For discussion purposes.

  68. Joe

    Do one

    Did we move to the Emirates to
    Win fa cups?

    If that’s the level we are at why move?

    If you’re content with it, then you are a mug fan paying highest ticket prices in the world for fa cups

  69. Redtruth

    “Fly over and go to a game sometime, might give you a different perspective over being an arm chair critic.”

    And sit among the sheep. No Thanks

  70. Bamford10

    Red

    Why are you addressing that political comment to me? I loathe May, conservatives and conservatism. I far more support Corbyn, though my politics are actually to the left of his.

  71. Marko

    Lemar-Belotti-Alexis
    Goretska/Tolisso- Fabinho/Danilo.

    Never going to happen though with Wenger. Instead of the obvious choice of Lemar he’d sign the underwhelming Mahrez probably as a replacement for Sanchez. Instead of Belotti or Icardi he’d persist with Walcott and Giroud.

  72. Joe

    Bam. No I didn’t say Giroud was better. Neither should be starting for Arsenal.

    When coming off the bench, I’d rather Giroud as he is more likely to score.

    Wellbeck to me is useless as a striker.

    I’d sell him and buy an elite striker and keep Giroud off the bench

  73. WengerEagle

    Lemar is a throwback to your old school wide player, loves to dribble 1 vs 1s and whip crosses into the forwards, he has a brain too and can pick a lovely pass.

    Not as fapped over as M’Bappe or Silva but he’s been no less important to them this season.

  74. Marko

    No, Marko, I just had him as a CM within a three-CM midfield. Perhaps you misinterpreted my triangle, but that’s what I meant by it.

    Also your midfield triangle had Arda Turan in it. Even assuming we signed up the world’s best DM he’d still have a winger and a CAM with questionable work ethic for company in a midfield 3. That’s not ideal. Definitely not comparable to Madrids mid 3 that works so well. Probably helps when you have legitimate midfielders in there playing their roles

  75. Bamford10

    Joe

    OK, but we can fetch 22m for Giroud. I agree that he’s good for a goal off the bench, but I really would prefer someone with more mobility off the bench. And we are unquestionably better when we okay with a mobile CF. But I agree Welbeck is gash in front of goal.

    He has scored two key goals against United, though, hasn’t he?

  76. G

    ” Turan at 30.5 and hasn’t played much the last 2 years is a wasteful signing. Not nearly good enough. ”
    Lol…Have you even seen the guy play..

  77. Marko

    Wait, where is it you see Lemar playing for Arsenal? How would it be Mahrez vs. Lemar?

    He’s a winger I’d play him on the wing. We’re not getting both

  78. Do one gambon

    There’s 4 trophies on offer each year if you’re in Europe. Were not winning Europe, were not winning the league.

    But we did win 3 fa cups in 4 years.

    Its not brilliant, its only papering over our league form. That I agree.

    But to not enjoy the trophy we do win in spite of our shortcomings is sad.
    You got to enjoy your wins as much as you loathe the losses.

    I’d say you’re not a real fan. All you and your ilk do is want us to lose all the time.
    To spite one man, who you have no control over at all.

    And another thing, I resent being called a sheep because my view is different.
    Le-grove the place where you get a negative opinion, rammed down your throats (in the comments).

    And apologies if you’ve been to games. I thought I read you hadn’t been before. Must be mixing you with someone else.

  79. Bamford10

    Marko

    Again, Lemar is not a “winger”: he’s a midfielder who can play wide or centrally. And Arda Turan would give us three times the energy Ozil gives us, so I’m not sure what your point is. He played for Atletico ffs. Anyways, I wasn’t calling for that set-up; I was just saying it wouldn’t be a terrible window if it played out that way.

    Your midfield and attack, please?

  80. Joe

    G
    Not in the last 2 years I haven’t. Because he hasn’t played more than a minute

    Are you judging him
    How he played 3 years ago before he signed for Barca?

    Hope not because that means nothing for how he will play now. 3 years older In a much faster, much more physical league

    Keep laughing though. You probably thought Perez signing was a masterclass too LOL

  81. Bamford10

    Marko

    Again, he’s a midfielder, not a winger. But now you’re going to play him on the right, where Mahrez plays? I’ve only ever seen Lemar on the left.

    So you have Lemar as a wide attacking player for Arsenal? What does the rest of your set-up look like?

  82. Do one gambon

    I mean seriously you guys are so bitter you don’t be happy until your team wins both league and champs league.

    Its not likely even with a chance in manager, although I conceded we would be in a better state.

    If that’s the case its not fandom anyway.

    Its attempted glory hunting gone wrong.

  83. London gunner

    Never seen belotti play why does everyone love this guy?

    Why do people prefer him to abuma?
    Or do they?

    Are people
    Not suggesting abuma because they don’t think he is realistic?

    He’d be an ideal striker in my mind. Physical, fast finisher can score of either foot and head relatively tall and pretty well rounded at other aspects of play. Top striker in Europe imo.

  84. Marko

    We could also admit we were wrong and bring back Gnabry. 11 league goals last season inhis first proper campaign as a starter is very good.

  85. Joe

    Do one

    Difference between enjoying a win and being content

    No way should a team of Arsenal’s level or it’s fans be content with winning fa cups. No Matter how you spin it.

    It’s a great win to add to a league or a CL/Europa

    No true big team would be content with 3 fa cups in 13 or in 4. Bayern. Real. Barca. Juve. United etc.

  86. WengerEagle

    Griezmann
    M’Bappe
    Lemar
    Martial
    Ousmane Dembele
    Coman
    Fekir

    Embarrassment of riches for the front 3 of the France NT, no idea how you fit them all in.

    Griezmann is the one name that’s guaranteed but after that, it’s tough.

  87. WengerEagle

    LG

    Na Belotti is a beast but he’s not at Auba’s level.

    Having said that, wouldn’t be shedding any tears were we to get Belotti, guy is a future WC CF, not the silkiest but he’s a powerhouse and he scores all types of goals.

  88. Do one gambon

    Joe

    OK I probably chose the wrong wording with content.

    Happy to win the ta cups I meant. Are you at least happy we won something over nothing?

    We have no define right to the league but I agree we should at least be challenging til the end at least every 4 out of 5 seasons.

  89. WengerEagle

    Does Ronaldo deserve the Ballon D’or again?

    Interesting one but on the evidence of the last couple of months of the season where he has come up with huge goals in the UCL QF, SF and Final, and in the last few league matches that clinched the title, you can make a very solid case for him tying Messi at 5-5 in Ballon D’ors.

    Pretty amazing stuff considering he looked finished as Messi’s rival only a few months ago.