Wenger’s choice with career on the line: Pragmatic / Kamikaze. What will we see?

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The most exciting game of our season happens today. You never forget the cup finals. Win, lose, or… well, those are the only two options, you remember.

You win, and you have the BIGGEST party ever.

You lose, you have the longest walk down Wembley way you can imagine.

Arsene Wenger has it all to play for today. The man is under the most pressure he’s ever been under as an Arsenal manager. Fans have turned on him this season, it’s arguable that the players have also given up on his ideas, and the board are wavering.

Antonio Conte, the fiery Italian with big ideas, is within licking distance of a first season double. He reinvented the 3-4-3 after stealing the idea from Wenger 32 years ago when he was 15 years old. Whoever is the owner of the formation, it’s been dubbed bulletproof this season. Chelsehasve climbed from a shameful 10th, to Premier League winners… and get this… they’re now kind of likeable.

So what’s on Wenger’s mind at the moment? How about these quite INCREDIBLE comments of delusion about fan pressure.

“One big problem now is big companies no longer make decisions based on whether they are good for the company but whether it is popular.

“I don’t care about that. I want to make a decision on if it is right or wrong.

“I focus only on football. All the rest is just artificial debate.”

Man, I don’t want to go too deeply into this. But this sort of chat certainly doesn’t sound like it’s coming from a man who knows he has a reported 2 year deal on the table either way. But sheesh, read that. Boards, around the world, making decisions for popularity, not the good of the club?

If we’re focusing on football this season, it’s hard to see where the artificial debate is? Poor results, poor standing in the table, crashing out of Europe, star players wanting to move on. Where is the argument for him to stay on?

I mean, it’s likely he will. But what’s artificial is that there would be NO logical reason for keeping someone like Wenger on, espeically when you consider what the new breed of managers is doing to the Premier League already.

Sorry, I’m being negative… let me channel my inner Sol.

ANYWAY, how about the game?

Well, that’s pretty uninspiring as well. We have Rob Holding, Per Mertesacker and Monreal playing at the back. Wenger might switch back to a flat back 4, because that’ll give more stability. Bring in Bellerin to make a difference at right back. In midfield, we’ve got to hope for some sort of magic to happen with Rambo, Xhaka and Coquelin. I’ve no idea what he’s thinking for the front three, but Sanchez, Giroud and Chamberlain?

What will be interesting to see is quite how panicked Wenger is about his future. My instant worry is that he’s already making a howler of a decision by opting for Ospina in goal. The guy is a very average keeper at best, he’ll be rusty and he’ll know he’s playing in a weak team. Not to mention that Petr Cech has been excellent of late. Wenger going for Ospina is two fingers to the fans, especially if the rumours are true that the Colombian is moving on this summer.

The second telltale sign will be geared around how he sets up. Wenger quite often goes the pragmatist route when he’s under major pressure. If he goes toe-to-toe against Conte, he’s going to get fcuking trounced. However, if he’s smart, then maybe he should look at how Jose Mourinho wins finals… or important games.

Minimise the risk, let Chelsea have the ball, capitalise on their mistakes… SUCK THE JOY OUT OF THE GAME.

We need to channel our inner 2005 FA Cup final, where, if you care to remember, we played a dirty game where we were battered for a whole 120minutes, then nicked the game in a penalty shootout, Paddy V scoring with his last kick for Arsenal.

Horrible to watch, but we ended with a trophy. Who will care how we win this, under the circumstances we face today? No one.

Wenger has to be realistic today. His barmy comments about what’s good for the club don’t give me much hope. His view that this current crop could win the Premier League says to me he’s not grounded in the realities of this season. His weird attempt at comparing this squads achievements this year with the invincibles, really brought tears of sadness to my eyes.

Today, offers us up the chance to see if Arsene Wenger has recognised any flaws in his approach this season, because make no mistake, this Chelsea side are coming for a war. Can the boys find the fire that’s been mising in large chunks this year? Will the momentum of the last 4 games translate against a team that has checked out? Will Arsene reign king of the FA Cup finals?

Can the boys find that fire that’s been mising in large chunks this year? Will the momentum of the last 4 games translate against a team that has checked out? Will Arsene reign king of the FA Cup finals?

We’ll wait and see. All questions will be answered 17:30 today!

Have a safe day everyone, and listen to the below podcast for some nostalgia and an FA CUP song blast from the past.

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948 Responses to “Wenger’s choice with career on the line: Pragmatic / Kamikaze. What will we see?”

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  1. pires87

    hey gits of legrove..where are your banners? couldnt take them out yesterday could you? shoved them up your asses did you? hehe …

  2. Samir

    @RorySmith: Wenger: “For once I’ve kept my medal, it’s a special night for me.”

    Although I think Wenger will stay, this was a strange quote from him.

  3. Dissenter

    Wallace
    Do you think it;’s okay for Wenger to talk like a banana republic dictator minutes after the FA cup victory?
    The lack of respect from some has been a disgrace and I will never accept that. I will never forget it”
    “I don’t mind criticism because we are in a public job.”
    “I believe there’s a difference between being criticised and being treated in a way that human beings don’t deserve”
    “The behaviour of some people during the season, that is what hurts me most. It’s not my person that is hurt but the impeccable image of the club around the world.
    “That kind of behaviour does not reflect what Arsenal is”

    What exactly did the fans do that’s so abhorrent.
    They called out an appalling effort by the team at Selhurst Park. The “you’re not fit to wear the shirt” chants saved our season.

    Even hector Bellerin took the criticism better: “It’s something you’ve got to deal with,” he said. “When you win you’re going to get fans chanting your name and when you don’t do great they’re going to give you stick ”
    “It is part of football and I understand. I am a football fan, I’ve watched football my whole life. When my favourite team didn’t do well I’d get angry”
    “In that sense, I understand the fans in that situation … You get the perks of football and the cons. That’s one of the things that’s going to happen. When you’re angry you can say something you don’t mean. Everyone’s got their opinion and sometimes it’s going to hurt ”

    Wenger is too disgruntled to continue. He should fuc* off and go to the club where fans have no voice.

  4. Bamford10

    Pires

    “Wenger haters out of our club.”

    Wow. That’s strong stuff, Pires.

    But Pedro has said that Wenger is the problem and has called for Wenger to go; are you saying Pedro isn’t fit to be a supporter? Are you saying Pedro should be “out” as a supporter?

    Do explain.

  5. pires87

    ARSENE WENGER / ARSENAL’S RECORDMAN

    UNDEFEATED CHAMPION 2003-04
    F.A CUP RECORDMAN 7 WINS
    CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DEFENSIVE RECORD – 11 CLEAN SHEETS 2005-06

    HATERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB …OR WE WILL SLAP YOU LIKE THE LITTLE SPOILT BRATS YOU ARE….

  6. Adam A. Carbarundum

    @Samir…there have been a lot of strange and cryptic quotes from Wenger this year. What stands out most is his disdain for the average supporter. That comes out of him loud and clear, he believes himself to be above their questioning of him.

  7. GoonerDave

    I’m not sure AW was demanding respect from anyone – he slammed the stuff that went beyond criticism.
    i.e. he has to accept that he has failed to get the best out of this group of players, but doesn’t accept when people wish cancer etc. on him. That seems fairly reasonable to me. However, he also must accept that he lied to the fans for money and is wide open to justified criticism on that count.
    Still doubt whether he’ll sign and think he should bow out gracefully while he can.

  8. pires87

    dISSENTER : What exactly did the fans do that’s so abhorrent. ?

    YOU WERE ACTING LIKE CUNTS AND SHOWING DISRESPECT TO ARSENAL’S RECORMAN MANAGER AND BEST IN HISTORY YOU LITTLE TROLLING PIECE OF SHIT….

    TRUE FANS OF ARSENAL WILL NEVER FORGET YOUR BETRAYAL AND WE WILL FUCK YOU UP IF YOU KEEP ACTING LIKE SPOIILT BRATS

    ARSENE WENGER NO.1 …YOU DONT LIKE IT ? FUCK OFF TO ANOTHER CLUB.

    🙂

  9. Adam A. Carbarundum

    Actually Dissenter, Wenger is telling the fans how to behave, which is as audacious as it is stunning, given his behaviour pretty much all season.

  10. Dissenter

    The usual characters gloating will be happy to show up on Thursday nights and watch Konyaspor play the mighty Arsenal.
    Are you going to travel to Qaballa, Azerbaijan to watch us play Gaballa FK in December?

  11. Bamford10

    Pires

    “Wenger haters out of our club.”

    Apparently we are supposed to be satisfied with fifth place, getting embarrassed in the CL, blaming the fans for poor results, over-rating of average players, and season after season of inadequacy and irrelevance — all because he managed to win the FAC.

    Sorry, but no.

  12. steve

    @Pires (cunt)

    You have been quit for months and now you show up. How predictable.

    Never won back to back in the league. Never won anything out in Europe. You were saying?

    Akb cunts die please.

  13. Adam A. Carbarundum

    You are actually quite a funny guy, Pires. Thanks for the laugh, I do appreciate it, I really do.

  14. pires87

    BUMFORD : IM SATISFIED WITH RECORDMAN WENGER 7 F.A CUP WINS AND 13 FOR ARSENAL. ARE YOU NOT? 🙂

    EAT SHIT LITTLE MAN

    COME STAGE YOUR POXY PROTEST IF YOU DARE YOU SILLY LITTLE INGRATE

  15. pires87

    THANK YOU STEVE

    7 F.A CUP – RECORD WIN- ARSENE WENGER

    WHY SHOULDNT WE BE HAPPY ?

    DO YOU NOT CELEBRATE WHEN ARSENAL WINS TROPHIES?

  16. Bamford10

    Pires

    “Get out of my club.”

    OK, so you don’t like anti-Wenger banners, but Pedro called for the stay-away protest. Are you equally critical of that? Are you speaking to Pedro when you shout, “get out of my club!”?

    Do explain.

  17. Adam A. Carbarundum

    Pires reminds me of the Iron Shiek…Iran #1, USA hoch-touey. Rants are actually funny.

  18. Dissenter

    Gooner Dave
    What went beyond criticism? Is he bigger than the club?

    Pires87
    You might want to check out the caps lock on your keyboard.
    It’s Arsenal FC, existed since 1886, not “Arsene Wenger NO.1” FC 1996.
    I see Untold has released it’s Wenger dick suckers

  19. pires87

    yes pedro the failure can also get out since he doesnt like it that much

    his coup has failed ..and i find that hilarious to be honest

    trying the same thing over and over again expecting different results…

  20. pires87

    I HAVE CHECKED THEM DISSENTER …AND HERE TO TELL YOU:

    ARSENE WENGER = ARSENAL’S RECORDMAN TROPHY HOLDER

    🙂

  21. Bamford10

    Pires

    “AND WE WILL FUCK YOU UP IF YOU KEEP ACTING LIKE SPOIILT BRATS”

    Ah, threatening other supporters with violence. Lovely stuff, Pires.

    Speaking of someone who could use a walk …

  22. Adam A. Carbarundum

    That’s the definition of insanity, Pires…something that Wenger has mastered over the years.

  23. pires87

    HOW MANY YEARS YOUVE BEEN TRYING KIDS?

    IS IT MORE THAN 7 OR 8 NOW…?

    EVERY YEAR THE SAME THING EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS…LIKE MAD PEOPLE

    🙂

  24. pires87

    YES ADMA..KIND OF LIKE YOU HERE..

    TRYING EVERY YEAR…SAME OLD SHITTY PROTEST WITH YORU SHITTY BANNERS…

    LOL

    AND YOU FAIL EVERY TIME !

  25. Wallace

    Dissenter

    “Do you think it;’s okay for Wenger to talk like a banana republic dictator minutes after the FA cup victory?

    The lack of respect from some has been a disgrace and I will never accept that. I will never forget it”
    “I don’t mind criticism because we are in a public job.”
    “I believe there’s a difference between being criticised and being treated in a way that human beings don’t deserve””

    sorry, haven’t got a problem with the above. I find the efforts by some on here to try and paint him as a tyrant pretty funny. the fact so few who know him have a bad word to say about him is because he’s basically a really nice guy in a very demanding job. loses his shit every now and again, but who doesn’t?

  26. Adam A. Carbarundum

    That and 8 miillion pounds in currency certainly take the sting out of the hurt, I’m sure Wallace? I dont have sympathy for someone who rakes in a kings ransom in salary and more often than not puts in a half-assed effort for it. It’s only when he faces outright humiliation does he finally respond. You do see that Wallace, right?

  27. GoonerDave

    Dissenter-
    AW – “I believe there’s a difference between being criticised and being treated in a way that human beings don’t deserve.”
    He must accept the criticism, but shouldn’t accept the nasty, juvenile stuff. The media have twisted it into a story, but he only actually criticised the stuff that was out of order.
    At least, that’s my take on it anyway.

  28. steve

    Pires87 probably has posters of Wenger in his room. Wanks off to recordings of Wenger saying “mental strength”.

  29. China

    I’m quite interested in how conte responds to yesterday.

    He’s been getting all the plaudits and deservedly soflr this year, but his team were on the beach in a cup final by the sounds of things

    We saw this same group of players under mourinho stop trying after they won the league last time and it makes you wonder if they’re going to drop off again next season as well

  30. Dissenter

    The way Wenger is talking, you would think that
    a] The fans invaded the field and tried to spit on him
    b] The fans threw a donkey’s ass on the field at Selhurst park
    c] Fans accosted him while he was having his morning tea

    Instead they tried to get the balance between disrespecting a man that all believe has served the club excellently once-upon-a -time.
    They even went above ground level with airplane banners to avoid interfering with the game directly.

    Things got so militant at Selhurst park because the slide was bordering on relegation quality.
    Wenger started with a captain [Walcott] who admitted that ” think they just wanted it” “more,” You could tell they wanted it more and you could sense that from kick-off. It was an uphill battle towards the end”

  31. Alexanderhenry

    Big Pat

    ‘The reason for that patience and understanding is because we were spoilt in the early days but you have to go to the very top for selling the emirates dream and those promise of that been broken. The regime hasn’t delivered and they all complicit.’

    That’s a fair assessment.

    I think they may have got the message that they can’t take arsenal fans for fools anymore- let’s hope so.

  32. Dissenter

    Gooner Dave
    Wallace,

    Very well. Lets just stay we have a disagrement.
    If he won’t forget then he should go to his dream job where fans have no say.

    Arsenal fans are some of the nicest, genteel, pacifistic fans you’l will ever run into. Middle class 100% al the way through. Isn’t that why they called Highbury a library?

    People just get tired of seeing the same errors year after year while they are being charged the highest tickets in world football.

  33. Dissenter

    We missed a big chance to let kroenke know how we feel.
    The man flies in to lift a trophy and sees gooners carrying “Wenger-in” banners singing along to “sweet Carolina”.
    I mean he sees them gyrating to “Sweet Caroline” with the lyrics that —-“Good times never seemed so good’

  34. Marko

    Whether wenger stays or not I’m beginning to think that there will be big signings this summer.

    That’s like you Alex. You okay pal. This thinking is all well and good until you see us actually signing players. Again the summer has just started and our rivals are well on their way to strengthening their squads and the only rumours about us are the young fella from Belgium. So far that would suggest no change in tact on this summer.

    In saying all that I would be especially confident of Belotti. Bar United who might need a striker with Zlatan likely going and Griezmann dragging on we’ve basically got a good shot of him if we’re willing to pay enough. PSG, Juve and Bayern don’t need a striker and unless Chelsea offload Costa they’d be hard pressed paying upwards of 50-60 million for a back up striker who’d want to play. Milan I’d doubt they have serious money tbh. Besides Belotti we could go for Icardi with 27 league goals this season. Point is absolutely no reason why we don’t target a striker this summer

  35. Thank you and goodnight

    Ozrus’s pussy must be tired as he’s back on LG. Bless the girlfriendless little gimp

  36. ozrus

    Thank you and goodnight,

    That didn’t make any sense, like everything else that comes out of your gob. Thanks

  37. Thank you and goodnight

    @Pires87

    I live in East Grinstead, West Sussex. Road name Brook Close. When your man enough come down and give us a slap you fuvking prick of a man. Bring your I love Wenger banner so I can shove it in your arse when I’ve finished stamping on you

  38. Tomtom

    Pires

    Have you some kind of learning difficulties?
    Have you not witnessed the pathetic underachieving over the past ten years?
    Maybe you are addicted to failure and enjoy being a looser in life!