Wenger brags about tough conversations

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Well, nothing quite makes you chortle with teary eyes like watching West Ham beat Spurs. Slaven Bilic, in his tough second season, playing in the worst ground in the country, beat a team that roundly destroyed us last weekend.

Also, did you know Sunderland have a better away record against top teams than we do this season?

What a riot we are.

An interesting trend I’m noticing in the media at the moment is outside the flip to the right of previously loyal fan publications, even the mainstream journalists are turning on Wenger. I’m talking about the measured guys who don’t normally speculate on futures. Barney Ronay has been on fire this season and his latest takedown on Wenger was like a MOAB – painted with pretty flowers – being dropped on the illusion of Wenger.

‘Something seems to have been lost around about the time the man who introduced internationalism decided the right thing was to have a “British spine”. Exit the creaky, flighty, high class midweek Carling Cup types – the Carlos Vela Supremacy – who for all their frustrations always seemed to have a brilliant midweek hat-trick against Reading in their locker. Enter a creeping, well-behaved mediocrity.’

This is the way I’d like to be writing about an exiting Wenger. It feels so much more polite.

You know another byproduct of this dreary never ending Wenger story? I read transfer news and I don’t even care. I haven’t clicked a link to a player story all year. Why? Because the chances are if it’s an ‘elite’ player, it’ll be boring elite… like Jamie Vardy. If it’s a player I don’t know about, like Sead Kolasinac, I’m picturing a player that has the stats monsters excited, but one that will ultimately disappoint, and if it’s a kid, I know they’ll be shite.

Remember back in the day when everything Wenger touched turned to gold? Them’s were the days!

He’s been bragging about having tough conversations with Ozil.

“Yes he needs [tough love],” Wenger admitted. “We had some good conversations with him as well, you know. But he has not necessarily had time to write the book so you don’t know about it. I don’t tell you what I tell them.”

“To just criticise Mesut Ozil’s performance does not reflect exactly what happened on the pitch,” he said. “Overall I believe recently he has put a lot of effort in. He was a bit, like the rest of the team, not physically at his best. I felt that we gave a lot on Sunday [against City], Wednesday and had not completely recovered for the game.”

I think I’d just pretend I’d not spoken to him, versus own up to him not listening.

So, we have a big game tomorrow. Jose comes to The Emirates, looking to extend out his lead over Arsenal and keep pace with the race for top 4. A race that saw City push up into third with a rout over a poor Palace team. Southampton and Liverpool also play in the morning tomorrow, which could present an upset, that might give both of us a bit of hope.

I’m not sure what Jose is coming to do. I mean, disrupt our free flowing football that doesn’t exist? I’d imagine, having watched a bit of Arsenal this season, they’ll try and ruffle Xhaka in the middle. He’s not very physical or fast (and he’s a but injured), and he’s easily agitated. I’d also imagine they’ll try and hit us with pace and take advantage of our lack of understanding with our ‘new’ formation. I can’t imagine it’ll be pretty, but I don’t think they’ll be deploying 8 at the back like they did against Chelsea.

I keep hoping that there’s a turning point. The only real hope we have is that they’re tired after their Euro exploits… and they struggle in front of goal without an Ibra type figure there to hustle us.

This game is of huge importance. It’s the start of a horrible week. Southampton and Stoke are tough games to play if we’re off the back of two upsetting defeats.

We’ll see though… I’m not fussed either way, which is a sorry state of affairs. Still tempted by the Cup Final though… £1500 to see us have our arses handed to us?

See you in the comments section.


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  1. moz

    Pedro, don’t you think a “turning point” will only ensure that Wenger stays?
    I think the only hope we have of him leaving is for the negativity to continue worsen until the cup final which will hopefully be a climax of negativity.
    Hopefully he will leave straight after the cup final and we can all start feeling positive again and read manager/transfer stories feeling excited!

  2. Jim Lahey

    Just wonder who you guys think are realistic transfer targets this summer? We’d all love a Griezmann or Mbappe, but don’t think we’ll bring anyone of that calibre.

    So, realistic transfers In & Out and possible starting 11 with formation.

  3. reality check

    Jim LaheyMay 6, 2017 21:32:35
    Just wonder who you guys think are realistic transfer targets this summer? We’d all love a Griezmann or Mbappe, but don’t think we’ll bring anyone of that calibre. So, realistic transfers In & Out and possible starting 11 with formation
    Jim, you are not new to Legrove.
    Many posters do this year after year. Last year, they speculated and speculated and in the end, this is what we did,


    *******In *******

    Granit Xhaka – Borussia Monchengladbach, £34m

    Takuma Asano – Sanfrecce Hiroshima, undisclosed

    Rob Holding – Bolton, £2m

    Lucas Perez – Deportivo la Coruna, £17.1m

    Shkodran Mustafi – Valencia, £35m


    Isaac Hayden – Newcastle, undisclosed

    Mikel Arteta – retired

    Tomas Rosicky – released

    Mathieu Flamini – released

    Dan Crowley – Oxford United, loan

    Wellington Silva – Fluminense, undisclosed

    Jon Toral – Granada, loan

    Wojciech Szczesny – Roma, loan

    Joel Campbell – Sporting Lisbon, loan

    Takuma Asano – VFB Stuttgart, loan

    Calum Chambers – Middlesbrough, loan

    Jack Wilshere – Bournemouth, loan

    Serge Gnabry – Werder Bremen, undisclosed

    I read transfer news and I don’t even care. I haven’t clicked a link to a player story all year. Why? Because the chances are if it’s an ‘elite’ player, it’ll be boring elite… like Jamie Vardy. If it’s a player I don’t know about, like Sead Kolasinac, I’m picturing a player that has the stats monsters excited, but one that will ultimately disappoint, and if it’s a kid, I know they’ll be shite. – Pedro

  4. Adam A. Carbarundum

    Tough conversations? If you are Ivan Gazidis, how do you tell Arsene Wenger he’s past it?

    Well Pedro, how does he do it? You are his best mate, right? Someone has to tell him that Wenger is a brain dead moron and needs telling….well?

  5. SUGA3

    Tough one, because one would like an upgrade here and there 😉

    Would probably swap Walcott for Zaha for starters, think it is doable, as long as someone pays good moolah for Theo.

    Should sell Giroud and go big for an upgrade IMO. Top names upfront is what intimidates the opposition. The thing is, however, that apart from the ‘unrealistic’ targets, there are not that many about which would be an upgrade. Or maybe I am just not much of a scout 😉

    I read somewhere that Matuidi is for sale, but ManYoo are all over that, apparently. Would come in handy.

    We need a leftback or two, but here I draw another blank…

  6. Samir

    55M is a good price for all. We should snap their hands off.

    The clever thing would be to demand 30M and Douglas Costa.

    Then offer Utd that 30M for Martial to play up front.

  7. Samir

    Also, I would go all our for Willian. He doesn’t get enough football at Chelski and may be tempted.



  8. jasongms

    “55M is a good price for all. We should snap their hands off.The clever thing would be to demand 30M and Douglas Costa.Then offer Utd that 30M for Martial to play up front.”

    Yes, I’d even suggest if that happened we’d be in a better position squad wise

  9. Adam A. Carbarundum

    55m for Alexis? Take it and see if you can get 30m for Doh Boy Ozil…r build from there. Who honestly cares, you’ve hit rock bottom with the two malcontents anyway.

  10. Tonyd

    The only turning point we can hope and pray for, Pedro is Wenger packing his bags and leaving The Arsenal in every capacity.

    I don’t care where he goes, but with his current cognitive abilities, I would think an assisted living accommodation would be best.

    Then and only then can our great club start its rebuilding and restructuring.

    Meaningful trophies will follow in the ensuring seasons: my guess will be in season 3 post Wenger as it will take at least 2 seasons to rectify the damage the cnut has caused.

  11. Tonyd


    Lacacette has already said he will only go to a club with CL football and Mendy? I’m sure his agent has explained the current turmoil with Wenger.

    Mendy doesn’t seem the type who would suffer Wenger gladly. He will want to develop his young career with a winning manager with a squad who can bring home trophies.

    The usual smoke-up-our-arses bullshit for this time of year.

  12. useroz

    Sounds like Wenger found the scapegoat….

    According to Wright… the Dick is being chopped

    “I’m hearing things like he was the one [who messed up] with Suarez. He was the one – with Ozil – who missed the plane. This is somebody who is trying to bring in recruitment to make the club better. That’s the incompetence we’re dealing with.

    “How can £40,000,001 for Suarez – who went to Barcelona for £75m and made them better – get through the different levels of management? For that to come out into the public domain? There’s massive problems at Arsenal at the moment.

    Read more at http://www.squawka.com/news/ian-wright-its-only-right-that-arsenal-transfer-negotiator-dick-law-leaves-the-club/944278#eLEcDASPiIqTjDmX.99

  13. Guns of Hackney

    £55m for Sanchez is a no brainer, I’m afraid. Wenger will talk a big game but ultimately, he’ll leave for a big club…and why not.

    There is also little chance of us using the money to replace him because: no one will come to us and…that £55m will pay for wengers next five years at the club.

    Our sinking ship is going to have a Sanchez sized hole in it.

  14. WestLondonGoon


    ”I don’t care where he goes, but with his current cognitive abilities, I would think an assisted living accommodation would be best. ”

    Fantastic work!

    Wenger is still so deluded that he thinks he can just call on players and they will come running to join his ‘Arsen(al) adventure’; wrong. Players aren’t stupid, more importantly, neither are their agents. The Wenger brand is now toxic in football; whereas SAF kept finding the key to getting his players to produce even in his last year, Wenger is on a downslide. There are simply more exciting ‘projects’ to be involved in, with far younger, relevant, and dynamic managers out there.

    He simply has to be off at the end of this contract to allow the club to re-invent itself. Under him, in the past decade, we have become a self-fulfilling prophecy of the same turgid dross season after season.

    Loads of Conte stories in the press in recent days leads me to believe that everything might not be quite so rosey at the Bridge; if that’s true, you can be sure that Roman will already have set his sights on the next appointment, and you can be sure that it won’t be a ‘transition manager’ like Rafa was. He will go big; big name or big impact. He might even dangle a half-hearted carrot in front of Poch, knowing that it could just likely cause enough unrest in N17 that it would serve some kind of purpose anyway.

    The Arsenal is still a very attractive proposition to ANY manager out there; in the most cosmopolitan city in the world, shiny (virtually new)stadium, we have money, and are relatively easy to improve on what’s been happening previously.
    Get Wenger out and we can look to tomorrow, not with certainty that it will get better, but at least some certainty that it will be different. It’s just so fucking tedius being an Arsenal fan at the moment; same shit, every season. Same results, same excuses, same press conferences, same everything. And to have the same person sat there, smirking at us whilst proclaiming ‘you will know the decision in……’, well just fucking bore off Arsene! You are stinking the place out.

    So today, come and protest; you don’t have to be at the front, you don’t have to shout or sing, you don’t even have to hold a banner, but just be there. Be another anonymous face in the crowd. Tis a beautiful grey day in London; a great day for a protest.

    #WengerOut #ViveLaChange

  15. TitsMcGee

    The clever thing would be to demand 30M and Douglas Costa.”

    When have we ever been clever in the TM?

    We’ll sell Sanchez and then sit on the money/sign some dross/reaffirm faith in Giroud.

    Also why would Mou sell us Martial?

  16. Samir


    You’re right. We haven’t been smart in the transfer for many years, that’s why we’re in this current pickle.

    Martial isn’t getting enough playing time and may force a move if United buy a new striker (Very likely).

    Willian and D.Costa really would be amazing wingers for us though. Quality going forward and also very good at tracking back and putting pressure on the opposition defence.

  17. TonyD


    “Their pitch to Mbappe will be that he will play every week at Arsenal – which is unlikely at Real Madrid – and that he will play as a centre forward, where he may be forced out wide at other clubs.”

    “Arsenal’s only other hope is that they attempted to sign the player when he was 16 and have wanted him for three years now. Wenger last week told beIN Sports that he visited Mbappe’s home last year to persuade him to come Arsenal.”

    Here we go again from BS Wenger & co to lure season ticket renewals.

    Love us to sign him, but……………

  18. TonyD

    Same Daily Mail piece

    Can you believe this arsehole, now he’s playing the Aeron Lennon card:

    He really is clutching at straws.

    SAF won what he did because he went nuts at players who let him down; ask David Beckham!

    “Meanwhile, Wenger himself has insisted he will not turn on his players and criticise them publicly despite their underachievement this season, as they take on Manchester United on Sunday attempting to keep their feint Champions League hopes alive.”

    ‘Ideally, you have to be careful with that,’ he said. ‘You can do it in extreme situations at times but it must be handled carefully. We’ve been speaking before about players dealing with stress. It just makes that stress level worse because top players have a good objective assessment of their performances. They know well where they stand.

    ‘You cannot always say to the players: “We’re all in the same boat and in this together to achieve something together” then jump out of the boat and say, “It’s your fault now.” And then, when it goes well, you take the credit. You are in the position where you have to be part of it and fight for them when it doesn’t go well.’

    “Wenger admits that has meant biting his lip at times recently. ‘Yes, of course. That is part of management. You have to control what you say. There are times you want to say something but most of the time you are responsible for the results and first you must disappointed with yourself.’ “

  19. SUGA3

    Wenger has created a microcosm of snowflake culture within the club. Kind of what the schools and unis do these days. In real life, performance is subject to evaluation and the blame absolutely can and should be apportioned, it’s no rocket science.

    And just like this microcosm is failing, so will the future snowflake societies. It is nothing new, the barbarians always win in the end.

  20. TonyD

    The press are saying that Jose is fielding a team of kids for tonight’s match.

    Er from what I see, he has only 3 kids in his squad.

    Will be good to have a look at Martial now he’s had a short run of games (3).

    Always liked the look of this guy, and if he isn’t happy with game time at United, maybe he’s a prospect for us.

  21. Boomslang

    We almost signed Mbappe. We almost signed Aubemayang. As you know transfers are not easy. But as well we believe in ze quality of our strikers with Giroud and Welbeck, and also Walcott has done very well in zat position. We must believe in ze players we have and as well trust in our quality.

    It’s Comedy Central at Ze Arsenal. Stay tuned.

  22. David Smith

    On the dick law thread, if he is messing up like that, again, you have to blame all those who are keeping such people at the club. Also heard law messed up Cahill, by aggressively pushing bendtner and pretty much nobody else when Bolton had no interest in bendtner and made it clear from the start.
    Think Kante was squarely down to Wenger and scouts though
    When the likes of Wenger, his merry men and law depart, Ivan, or someone else really needs to take control, as it is clear Stan will not

  23. Elmo

    Arsenal’s dressing room is a safe space! Micro-aggressions banned!

    As for signings this summer, we have to fix the midfield before even thinking of looking at strikers. As Ronay says, we desperately need to be sourcing two Cazorla replacements (a starter and his competition) who can be the midfield junction box under pressure. Who are the names in Spain and Portugal who can do this (I don’t watch much of either league)? Could Cabaye come in for a year or two and play the Arteta role? As for other midfielders, Naby Keita, Gueye and Tolisso could all be considered. Look at high performing, low prestige teams like Nice, RB Leipzig and Hoffenheim for value, just as there was value at Leicester last summer.

    Ramsey (wrong team), Wilshere (lightweight sick-note), Gibbs (not worth his wages), Szczesny (hopefully £10-15m from someone after a good season at Roma), Joel Campbell, and Jenkinson (not good enough) should go this summer, along with Sanchez (assuming he’s not re-signing). I think Ozil will stay another year because he wont get big contract offers, then leave on a Bosman next summer.

    That’s a big turnover, meaning we’d need two top level midfielders, a star attacker, and a functional left back, before even considering strengthening with a quality, mobile CF or an upgrade on Wally.

  24. SUGA3


    I would give Szczesny another go in goal,with Cech for the competition. Just that it cannot happen under Wenger as manager and Peyton as GK coach. You will find it difficult to find a much better keeper in the market, Szczesny just needs a bit of a discipline and competition.

  25. SUGA3

    …and actually, it is a funny thing: I think Wenger is a victim of his loyalty for his old coaching staff. Everyone and his uncle knows Peyton is dogshite and so are most of the dinosaurs in the back room. It is a little wonder the players are now getting better once they leave AFC. Remember the surprise of seeing Clichy being finally able to cross after he went to City? Looking the other way, take Cech for example. His performances have declined, not because he has gone past it. The key to this riddle is our shoddy coaching.

    Chelsea fired their GK coach a couple of seasons ago, we should have offered him the job there and then.

  26. Tonyd

    Thanks Jason. Just had a couple of great nights in Bangkok with the wife who’s been down there on business.

    Refreshed and fired up for the game to see Jose kick Wenger’s skinny are. You know Jose’s new BFF.

  27. Tonyd

    Agree SUGA3 sounds like he’s been ok on loan and there’s talk of making the loan permanent

    Makes sense what you’re saying.

  28. Adam A. Carbarundum

    Can anyone really get excited for today’s match? Park the Bus Fest will be on full display and quite honestly, I can’t be bothered any longer. This season can’t end soon enough for me. What a letdown…

  29. David Smith

    Wengers backroom staff are completely a problem. But he is the one who keeps them there, I am sure there is some truth IG wants to break up that setup, but wouldn’t be surprised of Stan defers to Wenger yet again.
    But, what was Wenger thinking replacing Bob Wilson with ….Gerry Peyton…..then keeping him, when all our keepers exhibit similar faults. Lollichon would be a good choice, so would jens….as szchesney said when he was at the club doing his badges.
    Really hope pedro is right, in that they are lining up changes in backroom staff to make it impossible for Wenger to stay, but unfortunately, Stan is the problem here….assuming arsenal is even on his radar now he faces a lawsuit.

  30. Jim Lahey

    “nly Arsenal could pick the most shit billionaire on the planet.
    Thanks Danny F, Lady Nina, PHW, Ken Friar, DD et al.”

    DD = David Dein? I am pretty sure he sold his shares to Usmanov?

  31. Adam A. Carbarundum

    @David…that lawsuit will take years to see the light of day and in the end the City of St. Louis will win a negligible amount of money, provided it’s not settled first. Minor to inconsequential lawsuit to a multi-billionaire who likely considers AFC a hobby.

  32. S Asoa

    Ultimately it was Wenger who smooth talked Lady N to sell to Kroenke. That’s the reason of the perennial back-scratching/ testicular licking.

  33. Evan

    “barbarians always win in the end”

    Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women.

    Fuck off Mourinho

  34. Thank you and goodnight

    Oh man Utd we don’t love you normally,but will today as long as you bend Arsene over and shaft him up the bottom

  35. Dissenter

    Szcezny is never coming back. He has only one year left on his loan and he stated publicly that he wants no part of Arsenal. he even went as far as poisoning the waters by dissing the Arsenal goal keeping coaching set-up.

  36. TitsMcGee

    We win today and you’ll see Wenger come out with “you see I can beat elite managers, tell me who have beaten both Pep and Mourinho in the same season, who?”

  37. TitsMcGee

    “Arsenal’s only other hope is that they attempted to sign the player when he was 16 and have wanted him for three years now. Wenger last week told beIN Sports that he visited Mbappe’s home last year to persuade him to come Arsenal.”

    I don’t care how much competition Madrid/Barcelona etc have. The day a top talent chooses us over clubs like them under Wenger is the day hell freezes over. Why willingly go to a club that gets embarrassed yearly domestically and in Europe over clubs that win league titles and alternate winning the UCL every season?

  38. Dissenter

    No worries.
    We won’t win United today. Mourhino will pack a double decker bus and beat us 2-0.
    Expect another United youth to emerge into potential stardom today like we gave Rashford his break.

  39. SUGA3


    Szczesny has big mouth on him, but most of the stuff that comes out of it has a ring of truth to it. Our GK coaching setup IS dogshite, even Cech is regressing here.

  40. TonyD

    Come on guys we need to lay off poor Ozil. Wenger is saying he’s deeply upset and affected by the criticisms he’s been getting, so we should be nice to him now.

    Absolute bollocks!

    If Ozil wants us to spread the love to him, he needs to show some guts and start challenging with full on tackling; not pulling out of a tackle or not even being in the place he should be to make the tackle when tracking back or winning the ball back in midfield.

    Scoring regularly would also be a big plus in getting the we-love-you-Ozil warm, fuzzy feeling back. 15 goals + a season should be the minimum and do the trick.

    Could you imagine him playing against Norman Hunter and Roy Keane or Vinny Jones grabbing his nuts? He’s lucky he’s not playing against such hard men.

    If he just wants to make killer passes and have midfield minders around to protect him, he should go to a league that can accommodate him.

    Assists alone are not enough for the EPL or The Arsenal; much more all round play and getting stuck in when he needs to is what he’s getting paid the stupid, high salary we are playing him, not for him to only offer 50% of what is required of him.

    As I said earlier, I’m fired up to see Jose kick Wenger’s boney arse into row Z.

    Then see what spin Wenger can put on the loss. One thing is for sure, Wenger will only talk sweet to the players when they lose.

    You couldn’t make it up if you tried!!!!!!

  41. Adam A. Carbarundum

    The toughest conversation that Wenger has had likely came when his wife left him. She said I’m outta here and he said but but but, followed by her final statement of my lawyer will contact your lawyer. Since then the toughest conversation has been with his jacket zipper.

  42. SUGA3


    What about Szczesny then? I would argue that he was a much better keeper when he came back from that loan to Brentwood (?) than when he had gone to Roma. Sure, one has to factor the ‘too much, too soon, too easy’ big bucks contract and lack of real competition. But shit coaching must be factored into it too.

  43. Thank you and goodnight


    My mates a season ticket holder at Brentford and I saw sczez playing their. He was a quality keeper and Brentford fans still have a soft spot for him.

  44. Dissenter

    Sczezny was regressing?
    So what, he was still the one of the best goalies in the world.
    Like all the players we buy we didn’t know how to make them better.
    Chelsea figured it out and brought his personal goal keeping coach, Christophe Lollichon to optimize him.
    Arsenal should have realized that Cech needed that bit more to keep him up there.

  45. SUGA3


    He did actually pull some amazing saves there. His overall play was better when he did come back to us. It was also pretty obvious that the set piece coaching was better, etc. Which is not saying much, really, but still. How many divisions below is that again?

  46. Dissenter

    Wenger is the anti-change agent who’s still peddling the same BS he sold to the footballing world in 1996.
    If Pat Rice had not developed health issues he would sitting next to Wenger. Wenger made the poor guy delay his departure by one year until he just had to go.

  47. Dissenter

    Sczezny looked like caviar because he was replacing a 99p fish and chips meal.
    Manuel Almunia made Sczeny look extra-ordinary.
    Sczezny is just another goalie, nothing special there lads. Move on.
    Arsenal fans are so f*ckinly sentimental. That’s why we form myths about young players and let the likes of Theo and Wilshere hand around for 10 years on mega contracts.

  48. SUGA3


    Putting Szczesny and these two muppets in the same bracket is a bit harsh on the former, don’t you think? He has 14 clean sheets in Serie A this season, which is better than Buffon with Juve.

  49. Dissenter

    Sczezny is 100% gone.
    He has one year left on his contract. We couldn’t sell him to Roma because we pay him about 90k weekly which is crazy for a goalie.
    I’ve seen him play about 5 times this season. He’s still the same goalie he was for us. He is just playing behind Fazio and Manolas, two excellent CDs under a manager who is tactically astute.
    Good for him but all this talk is just nostalgia a bit like Wenger waxing about the players he almost signed.

  50. Ishola70

    Szczesny was an immature little brat when he was at Arsenal and like many young players at Arsenal although he had ability the fans over-rated him.

    If his move to Italy has matured him then that is good not only for his footballing career but as a man.

    Best thing he could have done that move to Italy.

  51. Dissenter

    Mbappe wouldn’t survive at Arsenal.
    Wenger will destroy him very quickly.
    Has anyone noticed how Wenger dropped Iwobi so quickly when things went south? He an ultra-reactionary manager who can’t even trust Holding after two good games.

  52. Rhys Jaggar


    Apportioning blame in the place of work is the most political event on earth. All very easy if you work in individual siloes with no team work. More challenging the more integration exists.

    Am I to blame for a COO lying to University Professors before I arrived? No I am not. But I am to blame, apparently, for the consequences of that, namely that they had expectations of funding thst Inhad to disabuse.

    If you think you can simply go to your boss (the COO) and point this out you are sadly in need of growing up.

    I spent 18 months clearing out deadwood that my boss should have cleared out two years previous. There are ways of doing it in political organisations and cross-organisational partnerships, but they do not include ‘this is claptrap’ when the break clause for the partnership comes up in two years and the University can kick your employer out at that time.

    I got all the blame from both sides (disappointment/egotistical rage on one side; showing up the boss on the other, however silently I did it).

    I was the one who was doing his job properly…..

  53. SUGA3


    What you are describing is the very reason why the western civilisation is doomed to failure.

    Do I understand that things work in the way you have just described? Of course I do.

    Is this right? Of course not.

    People have lost the sense of accountability for their actions and are usually led by the ‘universal’ managers who have fuck all idea of the work they are supposed to manage. All a great big collective, with no finger pointing, shiny happy fucking hippies sitting in a circle singing kumbaya. Is it nice? Maybe for the feckless ones benefitting from it. Is it productive? Is it fuck.

  54. Ishola70

    Szczesny done himself a favour getting away from the pampered culture at Arsenal at the time. He epitomised the brat culture.

    Many Italian clubs don’t stand that nonsense.

  55. SUGA3


    Exactly. Players this young need discipline and mentoring from the players who have been there and done that. Who the fuck was Szczesny supposed to look up to? Also, not putting a young player on silly money with fuck all competition is sports psychology 101.

    Not even touching the subject of the GK position being a bit peculiar and needing different approach to outfield players.

  56. Redtruth

    A bad keeper with a solid defence in front of him will be perceived by many as a good keeper….Cech was always dodgy and the same can.be said of Szczesny

  57. DaleDaGooner

    If Wenger persists on Ramsey, we’ll always be a non factor . Never seen a non deserving player get so much playing time. He adds nothing

  58. Dissenter

    “A bad keeper with a solid defence in front of him will be perceived by many as a good keeper….Cech was always dodgy and the same can.be said of Szczesny”

    Redtruth was the first poster to call out Cech for being over-rated.
    Le-grove owes him out eternal gratitude for that 🙂

  59. TR7

    “Imagine the overrated Neuer playing for Arsenal, he would quickly become a clown keeper…”

    Neuer often gets exposed as a GK even while playing behind a strong Munich defense.

  60. Dissenter

    Why is Welbeck still here.
    He’s one of the worst signings for striker we have ever made.
    People still deride Bendtner till today even though he was better than Welbeck. The lad’s highest league goal scoring tally was as a loanee in Sunderland – 6 goals.

  61. ArseneisaFraud


    Ramsey gets so much playing time because he is an AW yes man. Look at Perez. He surely must have questioned AW and as a consequence was literally pushed aside and has hardly plied for us this season. Lesson one: Never question Our Great Senile Leader!

  62. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    I couldn’t care less what the score Is today ?

    I have zero passion for the club under this twat

  63. S Asoa

    Southampton holding Liverpool to a draw although Klop threw in everything for a win.
    Portents of what we are up to next

  64. jasongms

    Red, yeah I could see that. I guess people look at his physicality and worry, especially when teams play direct with long balls and crosses.

    There’s also the argument that with the right coaching /structure at the back, our goalkeepers wouldn’t be exposed like they are anyway.

  65. S Asoa

    What is our lineup ?
    Wenger does not trust Jose. Maybe waiting for a peak of ManUre CCTV feed of their dressing room

  66. Dissenter

    United can still come fourth place easily if they beat us.
    They probably have a much better winning the Europa league and getting a direct qualification to the CL group phase.

  67. jasongms

    As much as I despise Wenger, my absolute aversion for united+ Mourinho makes me a neutral haha

    United are the only team that I really detest…

  68. Dissenter

    I can see the stupid home contingent singing “one Arsene Wenger” today if we beat United.
    …makes my skin crawl

  69. Dissenter

    We need to figure out how Celtics keep finding these gems every season.
    I would be seeking to steal scouts from them.

  70. ArseneisaFraud


    Cech, Holding, Koscielny, Monreal, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Xhaka, Ramsey, Gibbs, Ozil, Sanchez, Welbeck.


    Gabriel, Giroud, Ospina, Walcott, Iwobi, Bellerin, Coquelin.

  71. Bamford10

    Looks to me like Mourinho was playing head games with his comments about fielding a “B side”. Not that he isn’t resting a few players, but this is still a fairly strong United line-up as far as it goes.

  72. Paulinho

    The novelty looks of a new position already seems to have worn off for Chamberlain,

    Back to being lazy and unresponsive when it comes to actually making runs or doing any type of graft that may go unrewarded in that position.

    All over the place positionally as well.

  73. DaleDaGooner

    Sell Ozil and Sanchez, get Kylian Mbappe and a good number 10 that will do Ozil’s job, good business

  74. Dissenter

    I agree that Chamberlain hasn’t grown into his assigned role. He seems to be depreciating there.

  75. Paulinho

    Dissenter – He does it in every position.

    Runs around like a blue-assed fly and everyone praises him, and then goes back to being the lethargic dopey prick he is.

  76. DaleDaGooner

    Smalling and Jones, the new Ferdinand and Vidic……to Arsene Wenger that is, how he can’t device a plan to go through these two oafs …smh

  77. useroz

    For one great pass, Sanchez has 3 or 4 loose balls so far. Worth it??

    Ramsey not far behind except no great balls….

    Ozil is well ozil-ing…

    What is Gibbs adding?

    Punch Mouri ffs….show us you still have fire in your belly

    In other words, still the