Arsenal fans should protest | Wenger should take £30m from China (that likely doesn’t exist)

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If you’re wondering what sort of a day I’m having, right now, I’m furious I bought the sweet potato flavoured Popchips, versus the super hot ones. What sort of sick bastard invents a potato flavoured crisp? Obscene. It’s like American soda drinks that brag about having natural sugar… so you buy thinking it’s healthy. LIES.

What else is not good? Telegraph journalist leaks story of board fearing Wenger departure then drops a story that Wenger is being offered £30m to manage a Chinese club, unnamed of course, PLUS the pearler that Wenger would prefer Madrid.

HAVE YOU EVER PAID ATTENTION TO MADRID AND HOW THEY OPERATE.

Wenger would last 16 seconds over there, plus, he wouldn’t get hired. Anyone who thinks Madrid would risk hiring an old manager with ZERO CL success is deluded. I’m reading Carlo A’s book, Madrid is an absolute circus of interference. PSG? Just as brutal. They told him if he failed to win a game, they’d move him on. 

Anyway, you know what this is all about. The circle of access people. You know how it works. You give Mark G an embarrassingly transparent article, he’ll give you a Per Mertesacker ‘we must do better / Wenger birthed me’ exclusive after a CL spanking.

Anyway, onto more important things. There’s a protest being held before the Bayern game and I am ABSOLUTELY behind it. If you’re the sort of fan whinging about others doing something about the dull malaise at the club, total respect for you, but keep you snarky £14 salt beef sandwich comments to yourself.

‘I want change, but on his terms’

Bless, what a wonderful notion. But this isn’t an episode of The Brady Bunch. This is sport and that’s built on continuous improvement and competition.

If the fans don’t make it abundantly clear they want Wenger out… and lord himself doesn’t hear it… then there is absolutely no chance of change. If you love the club, if you’re bored of having the only manager in Europe who marks his own score card, if you think it’s really uncool that we’re gifting £8.5m a year to a man who is beyond traditional performance KPIs, you should join the protest.

We get the manager we deserve. At the moment, we deserve an Arsene Wenger because we’re as weak as the board and CEO we bemoan every week. Take action. Prevent the forever contract being signed. Move him on by letting it be clear he is no longer the acceptable face of Arsenal football club.

It’s not even a radical notion anymore. Just do it. Click the Online Gooner link here -> LINK

There’s been some other interesting moves happening behind the scenes. Jonker has quit the youth team to take on a relegation battle with Wolfsburg, with none other than Freddie Ljungberg. I’d heard a mixed bag about him. Some say he was a positive change agent at the club, others had told me he was an egomaniac with his eye on the grand prize when Wenger goes.

The other bit of news is that there are rumours the mysterious Dick Law might be moving on. I’m not sure how reliable the sources are that push this sort of thing, but it’s rolled out from a circle of access journo. The guy is probably most famed for snapping up Gilberto back in the day and maybe not so famed for messing up the Suarez deal when he combined in a slick one-two with Ivan to make a £40m + £1 bid. One of the interesting things about that debacle is that fans still think that was a smart move because that’s what the clause said.

WRONG. The clause was a goodwill clause. We really messed that up, weak due diligence. Missed out on arguably one of the greatest strikers in Europe of the last 10 years.

Anyway, I’m not sure why this is interesting. It could be the empire crumbling with Wenger. It could be a very successful man packing it in because he wants his life back. It could be Arsenal gearing up for a more well connected DoF. Zorc, Rangnick, and Monchi would all be hot on my list. But look, we read into these things what we like… I’d still be utterly shocked if a man of Wenger’s ego and self-importance ducked out of Arsenal right now.

I personally think if Ivan doesn’t know the decision by now, we’re heading into very dangerous territory. If Wenger truly is going to drop the mic and he does it based on where he finishes the season, it’ll be absolute carnage trying to hire late on. My fear if that happens is we’ll opt for something horrible… a safe pair of hands like Rafa Benitez or Ronald Koeman. I’d rather stick with Wenger than opt for something equally as bland and unlikely to succeed as those two.

Good news is that Liverpool played right into the Arsenal top 4 tradition we know arrives at this point of the season as teams around us collapse. They shipped three goals to newly managed Leicester. I’m not sure I’m totally buying us breezing the top 4 yet, mainly because the narrative of ‘Dare to Zlatan’is starting to amp up and I kind of feel like Pep G will find his feet during the run in.

But look, if we go to Anfield and turn them over, we might be able to pull a cheeky run together and nestle ourselves where we always do… elite mediocrity.

We shall see.

Catch you in the comments. PROTEST PROTEST PROTEST and make sure you stay woke and are alert to those who feed you rubbish because they think YOU are THICK and can’t see past the FAKE NEWS!

257 Responses to “Arsenal fans should protest | Wenger should take £30m from China (that likely doesn’t exist)”

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  1. Dissenter

    Pierre,
    You don’t get it really.
    Not too many are Pollyanna about the post-Wenger period. It’s fraught with uncertainty, as it ought to be, after all we have had an omnipresent manager for 21 years.
    We’ve become utterly predictable in operating on one gear. We’ve intellectually falsified what success entails (you obviously disagree).
    There’s urgency from many here to have the process of change begin however uncertain it might seem. It’s going to start with Wenger and eventually the board will have to be rejuvenated as well. I wish Kroenke left too but don’t have one billion to buy him out.

  2. Ishola70

    A lot of the foreign press are picking up on the Italian story from yesterday that Allegri told his friends in Livorno that he is going to leave Juve for Arsenal.

    I really hope it is true but just can’t see it. As said before I think this “private” chat Allegri had with his friends in Livorno was done knowing most probably it would be leaked to the press and this is Allegri trying to stir Juve up in backing and appreciating him more . He thinks he is under appreciated there.

  3. Ishola70

    I just saw the Le Grove recent timeline twitter and there is a response to an article in the Evening Standard where they state if Wenger leaves he will join a club best equipped to win the Champions League. The response was let’s hope it is true.

    I thought this blog had already established that these sort of articles are bullshit and any club ready to win the Champions League right now wouldn’t even consider Wenger.

    The Emperor’s New Clothes show goes on and on.

  4. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Lads

    Just relax

    Three more months an it will all be over ….

    The with will be gone .

    I’m really confident he will jack it in soon.

  5. gambon

    Lol, of course any club that wants to win the CHamps League would never offer Wenger a job.

    Its not even worth debating.

    He hasnt won the CL in over 20 attempts, in fact he cant even get through to the quarter finals any more.

    He hasnt won the league in 13 years, and couldnt even beat a Leicester City team that are possibly going to be relegated one year later…..so if your plan is to win the league, again, he would be a terrible choice.

    The only clubs that would be interested in Wenger are clubs with limited ambitions, clubs that accept they wont win big trophies, but would like to consitently challenge top 4.

    Youre talking about Sevilla, Valencia, Monaco, Lyon, Schalke, Moenchengladbach, Bayer Leverkusen, Napoli, Roma type clubs.

    I think when he does fuck off, he will go to a Monaco type club, and it will go horribly wrong very quickly.

  6. freddylekgunner

    gambon, maybe it won’t go horribly wrong at Monaco. I think Wenger and Monaco are a match made in heaven.

  7. loyika

    So funny many here seem to be dodging the “Elephant in the room” being; “How many Grovers are joining the march!?”

    Or are we all saying that 90% of “Grovers” are just mere “Key Board Warriors!?”

    Excuse for those of us not in London, but what of those that are in London, go to games and want Arsene gone? Or will it just be like on “Online Gooner” where i am seeing more apologies (for not being able to attend) than Warren Beatty can even manage.

    I guess most in the March will be quite a few regulars on AFTV (Which frankly won’t have any impact whatsoever if it was that bunch)

    @ Red

    Why aren’t you making the sacrifice to actually go? (You don’t need to attend the game) although to be fair to you, your stance has been more to do with empty seats during matches as a more effective way of protest.

  8. Jim Lahey

    @Pierre –

    “So Jim, are you expecting a quarter of a million WOBS to be marching through north London …. Please tell me you are on a wind up”

    So…. my comment regarding the approximate 250,000 people turning up for the FA Cup parade was to show that London has the numbers to sustain any planned protest, so the lack of support from outside of London (turning up to the protest) should not be a problem.

    This isn’t a condoning or condemnation of the protest, just a simple statement pointing out that if any such protest has popular approval there should be sufficient numbers in London to make their voice heard.

  9. Bamford10

    Alright, all, as previously mentioned, I’m going to try to organize a coordinated online protest for everyone who can’t attend the stadium protest on March 7th.

    This is how it will work: anyone who can’t attend the stadium protest should take a photo of himself/herself with a simple handmade “Wenger out” or “Time for change” sign. They should then post this photograph to Twitter or Instagram or Facebook at 6pm on March 7th, so as to coordinate with the stadium protest. (And they should tag this photo with #afc, #TimeforChange, #WengerOut and/or @Arsenal so that it will reach the widest possible audience.)

    Those who aren’t on any of those platforms or aren’t interested in taking a photo should simply write/post “Wenger out” or “Time for change” here and elsewhere (Arseblog, Untold, Twitter, etc.) at that exact same time, 6pm, March 7th.

    I’m thinking a dry run this Saturday at 5pm GMT, just to give everyone some practice.

    The more who join in in one way or another, the greater reach it will have, so please consider.

    Pedro – Any chance you would join in with this? It would be excellent if you did.

    Cheers, all.

  10. Bamford10

    Someone on Twitter (@GunnersToday) has a “super computer” doing predictions for the table at season end based on results thus far. They have Arsenal finishing fourth, with Spurs in third and Liverpool in fifth. As below:

    3. Spurs 82
    4. Arsenal 77
    5. Liverpool 75
    6. United 73

    To what extent this accounts for more recent form I do not know. That matters, though, as teams are sometimes different in the first half of the season from the second half, vice versa, etc. This could be true for any or all of the above.

  11. Bamford10

    Just to clarify: the computer’s calculation obviously “accounts for” a team’s recent form; my question is whether it weights more recent form in some way (or what factors, if any, it takes into account, aside from W-D-L).

  12. loyika

    What people always seem to forget when they go on their; “Arsenal will finish so and so on the league table” monologue is the fact that other teams need to play and match or better Arsenal’s results. Case in point Liverpool. Now you would feel that they will come out firing on the 4th, but whats the point of playing brilliant against Arsenal, Citeh, United and so on if you then lose to Stoke, Hull, Leicester and so on?

    Frankly i have been disappointed in Kloop, if we say Arsene has no excuse what will we say about Kloop? Liverpool aren’t in any Cup Competitions to speak of? they have all their players available and rested? So what is their excuse for being where they are?

    From being favorites to do something at the beginning of the season, they are looking like ending it with nothing more than an Europa League place (unless they go on an amazing run, which i doubt they are capable of)

    Citeh and United will depend on luck and form at any given time. I still see United losing out on not turning enough draws into wins during the run in (and depending on how far they go in Europe will have be a factor)

    Citeh will depend on Pep’s temperament and what he feels he wants from this season of trials and errors.

    As for Spurs? Well depends on if they don’t get overcome with fear towards the tail end of the season and choke. I bet if we are still on their tails (or happen to be above them at anytime in the run in) We will end the season above them as usual.

    Our run ins might look difficult, but i have said before, Arsene comes alive when he knows top 4 is in danger.

    Lets see how we do at Anfield, that should give us an indication of where we are at.

  13. TitsMcGee

    There’s urgency from many here to have the process of change begin however uncertain it might seem.”

    That’s exactly it.

    Whether Wenger leaves in a few months or a few years we will need to rebuild. We aren’t winning anything with Wenger so the longer he stays the longer he keeps us back. It’s not like Fergie where he won the title every few seasons sprinkled in with UCL glory here and there. Wenger is providing no “return” so it’s amazing the reluctance of some fans to be rid of him.

  14. TitsMcGee

    Frankly i have been disappointed in Kloop, if we say Arsene has no excuse what will we say about Kloop? Liverpool aren’t in any Cup Competitions to speak of? they have all their players available and rested? So what is their excuse for being where they are?”

    He’s been here a season and a half. Wenger has been here 2 decades.

  15. WrightIsGod

    Pedro

    “I personally think if Ivan doesn’t know the decision by now, we’re heading into very dangerous territory. If Wenger truly is going to drop the mic and he does it based on where he finishes the season, it’ll be absolute carnage trying to hire late on.”

    Have to call you out again because a few weeks ago we had a Barnet over your ridiculous love in for Gazidis which is 100% unfounded beyond ITK rhetoric.

    How can you claim he is working to replace Wenger when he cannot determine when the man leaves. And so I ask you the same question I asked you then but you refuse to acknowledge:

    How can a man pretending to make change be the same man presiding over the status quo?

  16. Red&White4life

    “that should give us an indication of where we are at.”

    So you really need the next game for having this “indication” ??
    We’ve become a pathetic club, a joke, everybody in the world of football is laughing at us… But maybe you didn’t notice that yet ??

  17. Red&White4life

    @Tits : let’s not forget that loyika is always in search for a good excuse for his god wenger lol

  18. TitsMcGee

    So you really need the next game for having this “indication” ??
    We’ve become a pathetic club, a joke, everybody in the world of football is laughing at us… But maybe you didn’t notice that yet ??”

    Not to play devil’s advocate but ti think he meant for this season’s hopes for top 4.

  19. Bermy boy

    Rome is in flames ,the emperor is a disheveled mess,the people are up in arms ,and the powers that be STILL want him to reign.If this isn’t proof enough that AFC doesn’t give a flying f?&k about fans then you all are as delusional as Ty from fan TV.Im happy enough to just wait and see how this sad opera plays itself out.
    PS…..I don’t blame you one bit Sanchez ,you do you boss.

  20. China

    With respect to Le grove, I don’t think whether many grovers or not are available to protest will make an enormous difference to the protest.

    The reason being that we’re talking of hopefully hundreds of people (id love more but realistically I don’t expect a huge turnout). I know some people read Le grove and don’t comment and only Pedro will have the numbers for what sort of size we’re looking at here, but realistically there are less than 30 regular posters on here.

    So in a protest that’s aiming for upwards of hundreds and dreaming of thousands then I don’t think whether the comparatively small group here are going to make or break the protest.

    Regardless whoever is available and supports the cause should attend

    There are too many people who are against wenger but saying let’s not do this protest, let’s do that instead. It’s pointless to divide an already divided subdivision of Arsenal supporters by discouraging them from doing something that actually supports their cause

    Even if you think protesting won’t help, why discourage it? Disagreeing about it and talking on here will do far less for the situation than thinking it’s not ideal but turning up/supporting it anyway

    In other words if you want to see change, get on the fastest moving train. Don’t tell people to get off because maybe this will be faster. The only result is a muddled mess of people not doing anything because they’re arguing about what to do. If they’d all just boarded the first moving train they’d have already got halfway to their destination by now…

  21. Confidential Baller

    Im not in the ITK by now means… but I am told by an agent who has worked on low-level transfers with Arsenal previously (mostly tranfers from us to German clubs like Gnabry and Ryo Miyaichi)… The indications are Gazidis has got the headhunting commissioned on finding a replacement, there are names that wont surprise you but there some ommissions that may well do.

    Top of the list is Tuchel (although questions about how well he can be managed)… no Simeone and this is the one that will throw everyone NO Allegri? his issues will be around salary he just had a renewal last summer wit Juve and not sure if the board will sanction someone earning 5m+ pa (ironic really).

    But the surprise name is Roger Schmidt (the agent I know has some level of representation). The club is going German

    …. well I could be talking utter BS and could all be wrong – but not long to go before we know the real truth behind this.

  22. SpanishDave

    Wengers got himself in a corner. He can’t go out on a high, the Fa cup is his last chance and that’s unlikely with the clubs left in it.
    He’s will not have a long que of clubs after him, and now age is against him.
    He desperately whats his statue and stand named after him because in his world he is the greatest manager we have ever had and we should be more greatful.
    What does he think he can do if he stays because he’s spent, so it’s the money and nowhere else to go , so he wants to hang around

  23. TheBayingMob

    A few things to catch up on …

    10 Years Behind
    =================

    Keown’s state sponsored PR stunt was laughable; if Arsenal had made hay in the last ten years our tiny little North London neighbours might be out of sight by now and by some distance, but unfortunately we’ve botched it big time, and the worse part is we botched it on purpose to be honest.

    We have a small time operation that is interested only in immediate short term profit with no vision on the bigger picture or long term game and a manager well aligned with that business model. So while we have certainly seen off the lean years after the stadium build we don’t know how Tottenham’s stadium build is going to affect them; as they are genuinely a more ambitious club than us (but hilariously have been quite shit at pushing on as well), then it is likely the same process that Arsenal went through won’t be applicable to them on a linear basis, but I would expect them to have some compromises from the stadium upgrade; but I don’t know (and really don’t care to look) how they are financing it all so we can just wait and see what those compromises are …

    Protest
    ========

    Peter should never really have backed a protest as a) it will never work, b) he has no official affiliation with any supporters club to garner support with feet on the ground and c) he has a comments section that as far as I can see is filled with Yanks on the whole. Even I currently write from the States even though I am a North Laanndan Brit who has only been over here two years or so. People are immensely lairy over the internet, in real life, not so much ,,, everyone on here is goading for a protest foaming at the mouth but it seems every is ‘6k miles away’ so all they can do is really make a tiny bit of noise is a control space.

    You have to have been around Arsenal pre- and post-Taylor Report at Highbury then onto the Emirates to understand the fanbase. It changed dramatically after Taylor. Mainly, they are old men with nothing in their lives; the new fans that have arrived over the past 10 to 15 years are the London middle class, not street cunts who are likely to make a big fuss.

    Just look at Untold, does any other club have such a vocal set of pussy whipped fans? They are a complete embarrassment to not only football, but the male species in general; these guys are never going to protest. Every protest is going to be meek and mocked by these effeminate wankers.

    The large % of old men in the stadium have nothing left in their lives but going to the stadium every now and then, their wives stopped blowing them 25 years ago. They are scared of change, throw your ST on to the pitch? Part them wants to, but a larger part of them is terrified, sitting rocking in the corner not knowing what they would do with their lives if they couldn’t go and sit in silence at the Emirates every 3.5 days.

    Even the newer younger fans, of which there are few who carry on going past their 12th birthday because of the cost; but the ones that do carry on are the middle class offspring of the meek middle class wankers who go now. Daddy probably drops them off in his Evoque (third vehicle you understand, just for the weekend).

    We have the manager we deserve, the board we deserver and the inability to change anything we deserver because we let the club ride roughshod over the real fans in the early 90s when the North Bank was torn down and Arsenal become financially elitist overnight.

    I still follow them, because it’s in my blood, I can’t support anyone else; but at the same time for all the silent middle class, you get what you deserve. You keep paying 1200 quid plus for this shit show and egomaniac of a manager who has completely lost touch with the fans, football and his players.

    Enjoy it, I hope he signs on, so each time you buy that ST for that eye watering high price you feel the pain knowing that you are handing over that cash just because you’re really scared to know what else to do with your life, and your terrified of change in any form, you f**king p@nsy!!

  24. Red&White4life

    “because you’re really scared to know what else to do with your life, and your terrified of change in any form”
    Exactly like arsène lol

    Good post by the way!!

  25. Red&White4life

    “Alexis Sanchez has decided to quit Arsenal this summer and return to Spain, with Sevilla in pole position to land the Chile forward and Atletico Madrid also interested.”
    Let’s hope that is true – I mean, for Sanchez own interest of course lol

  26. Bamford10

    A small thing, but one only “drops the mic” when one has just done something very good. If Wenger leaves at season end, he will not be “dropping the mic” — because he won’t have done anything good this season (or any of the last ten). He’ll just be leaving.

    Good riddance. He was good in a previous era, but he should have left the club a long time ago.

  27. Samir

    Why would Sanchez go to Sevilla? (Bar the manager)

    Surely we can offer higher wages…
    We have a better chance of winning the league that they do. (With Barca/Madrid/Atletico)

    He will go to one of Bayern/PSG/Madrid/Juve/Man City/Chelsea or United.

  28. WrightIsGod

    Bamford

    “A small thing, but one only “drops the mic” when one has just done something very good. If Wenger leaves at season end, he will not be “dropping the mic” — because he won’t have done anything good this season (or any of the last ten). He’ll just be leaving.”

    Absolutely. That final line is the pure truth no matter what angle you’re looking at this from.

    People need to get over it and accept change either way.

  29. gonsterous

    sanchez to utd… Wenger will bend over, sell him and come up with the “I knew they would win the league when I sold them sanchez”..

  30. Dissenter

    Allegri’s contract expire’s in the summer
    We wouldn’t have to pay Juventus one euro cent.
    He’s paid 3 million euros by Juventus and would jump at the same salary Conte gets at Chelsea ~5.5 million yearly.
    The Arsenal job is not at all daunting, compared with SAF’s situation at United. Wenger hasn’t won jack recently. A new manager needs to win the league and he’s guaranteed to be loved by all.

    Allegri did win the league with little funds from Berlusconi. He’s not a trouble maker and our know-nothing-board will love him.

  31. gonsterous

    if the akbs think Wenger will change if he gets an extension, they are kidding themselves.. there is no “final push” season.. Wenger has reached his limits and his potential.. he is gradually degrading like all older players do ( apart from a select few )..

  32. Pierre

    Jim
    “This isn’t a condoning or condemnation of the protest, just a simple statement pointing out that if any such protest has popular approval there should be sufficient numbers in London to make their voice heard.”

    Your comment sort of confirms what I have been trying to say previously …..London and surrounding areas has hundreds of thousands of Arsenal supporters (the proof is there in the quarter of a million fans who came to celebrate the f a cup bus parade through Islington )….. Can someone please tell me that if there is this supposedly toxic feeling towards Wenger then why , out of all these hundreds of thousand Arsenal supporters, they can’t muster up more than a few “fans” to March or protest with banners etc…

    As I said before, the media will blow any March or protest out of all proportion …talksport will give it 24 hour coverage, Sky news will do the same…

    Unless there are more than 10,000 plus fans marching then it will be a failure , I suspect it will be more like a few hundred……. I wonder where all the other 249,800 will be who came out to the streets to celebrate winning a trophy but cant take to the streets protest ….strange that

    Waiting for the abuse to come my way …..

  33. S Asoa

    TheBayingMob

    Please read China post just above yours.
    Would have saved a long breadth and post

    WENGER OUT BY WHATEVER MEANS
    EVEN IF PEOPLE CALL IT AN ORCHESTRA.

    That’s nice too .

  34. Pierre

    Tits m
    “Whether Wenger leaves in a few months or a few years we will need to rebuild. We aren’t winning anything with Wenger so the longer he stays the longer he keeps us back. ”

    I could have sworn we won 2 f a cups in the last 3 seasons or did I dream it…….ibrahimavic was celebrating winning 2 trophies this year (league up and community shield) …. So I suppose that means we have won 4 trophies (2 f a cups , 2 community shields) in 3 seasons….

  35. Ishola70

    Ibra is enjoying himself playing with United as it’s a new country for him and new league and he is in the knowledge that he is in the twilight of his career and his stay at United will not be long. He is enjoying whatever comes along.

    But do you think United are content to win the EFL Cup (even the name of that cup sounds naff) or an FA Cup and still be a long way from winning the league or getting back to being serious rivals for clubs in the Champions League? Are they fvck.

  36. Dissenter

    Pierre,
    I hope you don’t have any abuse directed at you.
    Do you know any top football manager who would walk away from an 8.5 million yearly salary with the guarantee of total control and very low expectations?

    You keep saying you want Wenger out but do you think it’s realistic to think he will just wake up one day and decide to move on?

    Why is had to understand why some are seething at the way the club is being run. You don’t have to agree with them but stop coming up here trolling them.

  37. Pierre

    Dissenter
    “Do you know any top football manager who would walk away from an 8.5 million yearly salary with the guarantee of total control and very low expectations?”

    Well, if reports are true, Wenger has been offered 30 mil a year in China…. So , if , as you say , it was about money then why wouldn’t he leave…. I’m sure if he went to China he would have control …

    You also say that working for Arsenal only demand “low expectations”…. In my opinion, low expectations is surviving relegation …..to be honest , the expectations of the fans are probably higher than any club in the prem but Wenger can’t meet those expectations…

  38. Pierre

    Dissenter
    “Why is hard to understand why some are seething at the way the club is being run. You don’t have to agree with them but stop coming up here trolling them.”

    I do understand and yes, it is time for Wenger to leave but will that resolve the problem or is the problem Kronke and his lack of ambition…..

    We will only know that when Wenger leaves and we find out who Kronke brings into replace him…. This will determine if Kronke wants to push Arsenal up to the top level or maintain the status quo….

  39. Dissenter

    Pierre,
    You really believe Wenger was offered that 30 million yearly salary in China?
    Surely you cannot be that gullible not to know it’s a PR job that planted.

    Your expected bar is set at “relegation”??????????
    For a club with 90 million transfer budget and over 200 million in player wages!!!!!!

    Are you for real?
    Is this just another way of trolling?

  40. Redtruth

    FA Cup used to be mocked by fans and placed well down the list of priorities, Now fans embrace the competition and covet the trophy like a precious stone..lol

  41. Redtruth

    Wenger type of manager: One dimensional, tactically inept.

    Wenger’s gameplan may have yielded results early in his tenure but such a limited approach was never going to be sustainable.

  42. Redtruth

    It’s embarrassing how fans and pundits alike suck up to Wenger when he’s won nothing of note for over a decade.

    The scary part is how many many fans agree with Wenger’s belief that top 4 is a trophy

  43. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Along with the protest

    We must negioate a time when we all pray together
    To whatever faith we follow .

    If your an atheist then dream he’s gone

    The day after the protest

    Pray an dream he goes …

  44. stevegooner

    Redtruth

    Your’e back

    You’ve not answered the questions about the protest! Are you going. I’ll be in the Coronet from 5 if you want to meet up

  45. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Steve

    Ruth
    Is a knowledgable person with dead pan delivery of facts …

    He just don’t do questions …

    Never has never will

  46. Stevegooner

    RSPC
    Actually he he’s a complete pratt. Keyboard warrior who has been to about 2 games over the last 20 years according to him.
    I have called him out o this a couple of times, as has Pedro. He fucks off when this happens. I wonder what will happen to this site when Wenger goes. No one will have fuck all to moan about!

  47. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    True Steve

    The new man will have us joyously all singing from the same sheet ,,,

    Amen to that

  48. Stevegooner

    The Baying Mob.
    Please don’t tar us all with the same brush. I’m one of those old men. However, I have loads of things In my life. I own racing greyhounds. I attend an average of one gig a week. I eat out regulary. I have weekends away. I have grandchildren that I dote on. I play golf at least once a week. Arsenal are a big part of my life. But don’t make assumptions

  49. Stevegooner

    RSPC.
    In an ideal world yes. However it will probably get worse before it gets better. Then most will spend the next 10 years blaming Wenger for everthing

  50. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Steve

    Really can it get any worse footballing wise ?

    We have a gutless team that folds quicker than paper .

    No leadership , no motivation no prospects …

    Every season it’s like we are all Doris stokes because we know how it’s going to be .

    We have wasted 150m on players …

    Only thing we are successful in is making money , even tho we should make more .
    We need it if he stays as he spunks money on players .

  51. Redtruth

    Next season will be 14 years without winning the title under the same manager.
    Imagine that, 14 years with the same manager!
    Wenger has the easiest job in football.

  52. Redtruth

    I expect Marc, Emiratesstroller and N5 along with the rest of the season ticket holders who frequent this site to attend the March 7th protest with vigour, zest, fervour and zeal….

  53. jwl

    Teams in Spain and Italy change their managers as often as they change their underwear and the elite teams seem to do alright. The current league champions of Spain and Eng are changing their manager but we get bizarre ‘careful for what you wish for’ type of articles/arguments whenever firing Wenger gets raised in public.

    Wenger hasn’t won league in over a decade, and he’s spent quite alot money, but we supposed to be ever so worried about what happens next after Wenger. As long as Arsenal hire person with experience of managing an elite team in Europe, I am not at all worried about future after Wenger.

  54. WestLondonGoon

    Barcalona to announce new manager on 1st July….the day after Wenger’s contract runs out.

    It’s fate I tell you.

  55. WengerEagle

    Fantastic fightback from Real, Ronaldo with a bullet header to level things up and win them a point.

    Could be vital come the end of the season, once again should go down to the wire.

  56. goonerkitt

    I have tried for years to give le senile/fraud/Cnut the benefit of the doubt, but alas, he has sucked all the joy out of supporting the team I have loved since I was born. My boys still get all excited when we score or play well but I have to reign them in and tell them that it will all end the same way it does every year. It’s like being a Coventry fan all through the 70’s and 80’s when they knew they would end up somewhere just above relegation always flirting with the drop. I cannot wait until he fucks the fuck off.

  57. Dissenter

    Gawd I hope Wenger gets the Barca gig.
    He’ll probably come fourth after Madrid, Sevilla and Atletico, Messi et al notwithstanding.

  58. goonerkitt

    Wenger is going to stay for two more years so he can claim the credit for Arsenal clocking up an unbroken century of top flight status. To think he will be able to legitimately claim over 20% of the credit for that!

  59. Adam A. Carbarundum

    Somehow I just can’t envision a football powerhouse like a Barca taking a flyer on a washed up has been egomaniac like Arsene Wenger. They just don’t pit me as being that stupid and forget about being desperate and scared, cause that’s what Arsenal are. Only Arsenal are dysfunctional enough to sign someone as fundamentally useless as Wenger.

  60. Black Hei

    RS

    Whoah there! I am pretty much an AKB leaning towards the right.

    But I find Trump impossible to stomach. What the hell is VOICES suppose to be.

    For all we know, Peds has fallen foul of the new thingy; he might be white, but he is still a foreigner. Where is the new post!

  61. jonathan

    Enriquez, 8 trophies, including 1 CL & 2 La Liga titles in 3 years, steps down due to bitpart pressure,
    Wenger, 2 F.A cups in 12 years gets offered increased wages to stay on, then you wonder why were not a “TOP” club.
    Small-time Mentality!!!!!!!

  62. Dissenter

    ReLIEable source
    Take your Trumpette noises away from this site.
    Since when did a slowly read speech from a teleprompter become fodder for repeated orgasms?
    State of the Union speeches mean nothing.
    Wait till the rubber hits the road. His numbers don’t add up.
    He wants to spend more, cut taxes and cut the debt?
    Don’t hold your breath dude.

  63. peanuts&monkeys

    reality is that Arsenal have not won a single game, in 10 attempts, away from home against the rest of the big six — Liverpool, City, Manchester United, Chelsea and Tottenham — since they took all three points from the Etihad two years ago.

  64. peanuts&monkeys

    An old cunt pretending like a football manager and losing for 13 years. Yet hee keeps getting his raises on time. How fucking unfair!! Imagine guysn how many of us would have kept our jobs had we failed for even 13 months????

  65. China

    Pierre I don’t blame you for disagreeing with some people on here over this or that

    But let’s be brutally honest here

    Arsenal are one of the biggest clubs in England. One of the richest in the world, with one of the best paid managers, one of the biggest stadiums, the world’s best training facilities, well funded academy, history, prestige and all the rest

    And you think it takes scraping around the relegation zone for us to be underachieving

    What the actual fuck are you talking about???????

  66. China

    Pierre which sentient Arsenal fan is expecting Arsenal to dominate Europe every season?

    The expectations are that we should often compete for the league (some bad years happen with every club) and to win it sometimes (note not always). And to sometimes compete in the CL and once in a while maybe win it or get really close.

    If those are the highest expectations in England in your eyes you need to go to specsavers mate

  67. China

    Pierre by any chance was it you who compared Arsenal with ‘similar’ clubs Newcastle and Aston villa a year or so ago?

    Saying we’re doing well since we’re doing better than those two teams… our direct equals and rivals…. in the championship……….

  68. peanuts&monkeys

    @pierre
    “As I said before, the media will blow any March or protest out of all proportion …talksport will give it 24 hour coverage, Sky news will do the same…”

    In spite of only few turning up for this protest, why would media blow it out of proportions? whose interests would they serve by doing so? who will read those/watch those news? who are the intended audience? why will this be at all a news??? why will this be at all a news???

  69. peanuts&monkeys

    One 4 — 0 loss at Paris, and the manager is out after 5 trophies on two years. Luis Enrique, you are a champ. Pl don’t ever, never ever join a club which doesn’t sack managers.

  70. Arsenal not Arsene

    Enrique does the sensible thing and leaves.That’s what good Managers do.once the tide is changing you don’t need to persist and prove to everyone you can do it when it’s clear that you no longer can’t.That’s arsene for the last 10-13 years.shame! shame! shame!

  71. Sid

    Enrique has done a great job, Treble in the first season, league title in the 2nd and they are still in the title race this time.

  72. Sid

    Barca are clearly fed up of winning titles, now they just want stability. So Wenger is going to become the next Barca manager.

  73. Jeff

    Whoever thinks Arsene is leaving Arsenal is probably slightly inebriated. Whoever thinks he’s joining Real or Barcelona is just plain stupid. Those two clubs live for big success; mediocrity is a big no-no and stamped on soon as it shows any sign of surfacing.

    The reality is that Wenger IS NOT leaving Arsenal. Why should he?

    1. New deal offered
    2. More pay
    3. Same power – do as he likes
    4. No pressure to win anything
    5. Stadium always full even though many people don’t turn up so who cares?
    6. Coffers are healthy

    Are you insane? Do you really think he’s going to leave such a job? Fan pressure doesn’t matter because half the fans still want him around. There is simply no reason or logic for him to leave – none.

  74. David Smith

    Not sure half the fans want him, a lot have turned, and could get worse this season, as people realise that if he stays, it is only on the indulgence of an owner who knows…and cares nothing about football.
    If he limps to fourth , or worse, loses his best players, dithers on replacements, things will become very uncomfortable for him, not sure he needs that at his age, however deluded he may be

  75. Mick Kartun

    “On Halftime break vs liverpool match and motivational speech in Arsenal locker room.”

    All’s silent to hear the speech.

    “I don’t know what to say really. 45 minutes to the biggest battle of our professional lives all comes down to today.

    You know when you get old in life things get taken from you.
    That’s, that’s part of life.
    But, you only learn that when you start losing stuff.
    You find out that life is just a game of inches.
    So is football.
    Because in either game life or football, the margin for error is so small.

    On this team, we fight for that precious spot, the fourth.
    On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us to pieces for that spot we coveted so much the FOURTH.
    We CLAW with our finger nails for that SPOT.
    Cause we know, when we reach that fourth spot, that’s going to make the fucking difference, between WINNING and LOSING,between LIVING and DYING.

    Now I can’t do it for you. I’m too old and senile too.
    Now I can’t make you do it.
    You gotta look at the guy next to you.
    Look into his eyes.
    Now I think you are going to see a guy who will go that spot with you.
    You are going to see a guy who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows when it comes down to it, you are gonna do the same thing for him.

    That’s a team, gentlemen
    and either we heal now, as a team,
    or we will die as individuals.
    That’s football guys.
    That’s all it is.
    Now, whattaya gonna do?”

    Long Pause……….

    Arsene: OK, Al, what a great speech. Thanks I hope the guys will be pumped up and kick some asses. Our receptionist will give the cheque for your pay.

    Al Pacino: Thanks Arsene. Call me if you need me again. Bye.

  76. Jeff

    David,

    If you look at how fan behaviour changes soon as we win a game, you will see what I’m talking about. Arsenal aren’t going to lose every game and we will finish top four. I don’t think we’ll win the only possible cup (FA) because too many strong teams are still in it. If we get to the final with Man City or Man U, we will bottle that game like clockwork. Top four will seal Wenger another 2-4 years; that’s pretty much certain.

    If we drop out of top four, then I think the probability of him staying goes down slightly but there is no way at all he’s leaving if we finish top four.

  77. Pierre

    China
    “Pierre, And you think it takes scraping around the relegation zone for us to be underachieving”

    Didn’t say that , would be a stupid and ignorant thing to say …. I think your quoting a mis- quote from dissenter .

    “Pierre, chance was it you who compared Arsenal with ‘similar’ clubs Newcastle and Aston villa a year or so ago?”

    Again, would be a stupid and ignorant thing to say

  78. Pierre

    Peanuts
    “In spite of only few turning up for this protest, why would media blow it out of proportions? whose interests would they serve by doing so? who will read those/watch those news? who are the intended audience? why will this be at all a news??? why will this be at all a news???”

    Wait and see ….. If one bloke holding up an “enough is enough sign ” makes the newspapers, talksport and sky news ( it probably even made the bloody bbc news as the lead story) then a protest march will be serious news for these people , what an opportunity to discredit wenger and Arsenal …… There will probably be more cameras and reporters there than protesters…

  79. Bamford10

    For someone who supposedly thinks Wenger isn’t good enough and needs to go, Pierre sure spends a lot of time belittling protest.

    Pedro – Given that you’ve called for fans to protest, can you please explain how Pierre’s contribution to Le Grove over the past 36 hours has not been pure trolling? Thanks.

  80. Bamford10

    “Sergio Aguero was absolutely devastating for Manchester City against Huddersfield” – @ESPNFC

    If Aguero were to leave City, any chance they’d sell him to us? Probably not. I’d love to have him as our #9, though.

  81. peanuts&monkeys

    Thanks Pierre.

    But i still am curious why would media lap this opportunity up? Whose appetite for anti-Wenger news would the media quench? (we all read what we WANT to read/listen/watch). Are there really so many people interested about a protest against Wenger? Who are they? Why is this news at all?

  82. David Smith

    Really hope you are wrong Jeff, but agree, he probably will get a top four finish.
    If he stays, the board and owner need serious scrutiny, and Ivan will no longer be able to feeds his promises, especially if key players depart