Working class fans shall not speak | International break announcement fears

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Hit up a Super Bowl party last night hoping for a spectacle, boy did we land one. The Falcons stormed to an insurmountable lead, the Patriots didn’t tolerate the idea of losing, they marched back under the incredible Tom Brady. What a result.

Responding to the mean face of adversity, playing like a real team, showcasing unbelievable feats of athleticism (Edelman catch) combined with unreal tactical nous, they prevailed. What an evening.

So many elements you’d love to see more of at Arsenal. Sure, everyone hates them, but they’re winners. I’d love a bit of that at Arsenal. Not too much. But give me some.

John Cross, seething after a week of being tanked by fans online and on AFTV, formulated a response along the lines of ‘let them have cake’ in a bizarre rant first, worry about the story second. This on the peasants of opinion:

To be fair, it is brilliant entertainment. Everyone is entitled to a view. Except that the Arsenal fans seem so wrapped up in their anger and despair that they miss the fact that other fans are ridiculing them.

It used to be played out in a pub with mates. Now it’s on social media and, without doubt, Arsenal’s latte sipping classes and spoilt little rich kids seem to shout loudest.

Think what you want about the AFTV guys, they are entertaining. They cause no harm to anyone and they’re a nice release after a shocking result. The comfort in knowing that after a game someone, somewhere, sought out a microphone to say something that makes your petty little rant in a WhatsApp group or pub look embarrassingly tame is lovely. Robbie has set up a little empire of his own back because he understands the normal fan. It’s a cultural phenomenon, it’s part of the AFC vernacular now and it’s turned into a post-game ritual.

It’s hard work out there too. Brands don’t pay much, Youtube aren’t exactly busting out the millions. People are mean online. But they all clearly love it. I’ll never knock that.

Being told other fans mock the videos is petulant and childish. If you really care what other fans think of you, maybe you should get a real problem? Secondly, to call AFTV fans the ‘latte-sipping classes’ is beyond the pale. Do any of those characters online look like latte-sipping classes? Do any of them look like they’re jumping in a Rolls Royce for a kale salad after they drop some Wenger fire? Does it matter if you’re rich, does that somehow relegate your view to uninteresting? I didn’t realise wealthy journalists who write books were so beyond the casual delights of a grande at Starbucks. When I sat at the Arsenal FA Cup press conference, watching journo after journo raid the coffee machine in the main suite, I did NOT grasp they were NOT hitting the latte button. I was, and I feel disgusting for it now. Like I sacrificed something when I opted for the calorific hit of caffeine and steamed milk.

I didn’t realise wealthy journalists who write books were so beyond the casual delights of a grande at Starbucks. When I sat at the Arsenal FA Cup press conference, watching journo after journo raid the coffee machine in the main suite, I did NOT grasp they were NOT hitting the latte button. I was, and I feel disgusting for it now. Like I sacrificed something when I opted for the calorific hit of caffeine and steamed milk.

Interesting that someone who likely hasn’t paid for a ticket since Backstreet Boys were a thing / dines out on a delightful sandwich buffet rolled out by the club every week really shouldn’t be picking on the largely working class fans of AFTV, nor the fans who ‘seem’ rich when you look at their beautifully art directed avatars.

This is like the Gary Neville comment, but from someone who should know better.

Talking of the exUnited defender. Interesting to read him joust with Piers Morgan. He was taken to task about his reticence to call for a Wenger firing. Apparently, according to Gary, he’ll lambast Wenger on his Monday night assassination session with Jamie Carragher, he’ll dump on him for a full ninety minutes, highlighting to dumb working class fans why he’s so bad… but he won’t call for him to be fired.

Isn’t that noble? He’ll lead the media charge against Wenger, giving tacit permission for anger and questions. But when it comes down to it, he won’t tarnish his relationship because of some unwritten code. He doesn’t have a book he wants to write, but he might want a job with Arsenal at some point, so best not cut off a connection.

DISHONEST MEDIA!

I’m gearing up right now for the next assault on our tiny little minds. We’ve had our best players bar Sanchez talk about how you can breastfeed from Wenger if you ask nicely. We’ve had The Mirror of #MadeUthink notoriety tell us we should be grateful because we’ve never had it so good / if that doesn’t work for you, you’re a latte drinking wimp / working-class slag with no right to speak online.

Wenger apparently due to announce he’s staying during the next international break. So the next PR assault will be on your hope…

‘Wenger takes defeat harder than anyone’

‘Manager plans major squad overhaul’

‘Warchest rumoured to be £169m’

It’s coming, you know it. But as the American’s say, ‘stay woke’, and call out the nonsense. Pray Wenger has an ounce of self-awareness and decides he’d rather hand over to a manager who has a clue.

… because know this, if I had to take the ups and downs of Chelsea to land in a place we could all enjoy together, I’d take it. A solid Arsene run in won’t convince me he should be given another chance. Top 4 over Mourinho and Pep (who has relegated us to 3rd) gives me no solace. Just chop out Wenger and bring in a real coach.

Right, that’s me done.

Anyway, podcast is being recorded a little latte…

 

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  1. Red&White4life

    “someone who likely hasn’t paid for a ticket since Backstreet Boys were a thing”
    lol

    “Wenger apparently due to announce he’s staying during the next international break. ”
    I can’t wait!!

  2. Uwot?

    Neville,cross & the media can all go & do one.for generations they have had the platforms to voice their biased opinions.virtually unchallenged.now they are hearing what the guy in the street thinks & can’t handle it.would Neville be of the same opinion of fans of his beloved manure?no didn’t think so.i hope he shows up on afctv as he’s offered & is interviewed not by Robbie who’ll go soft on him but DT.now that would be worth watching….

  3. Thank you and goodnight

    Probably same as what’s happened to Arsehole wonga’s red and white army……turn up and get arse fucked by nearly every half decent club

  4. Thank you and goodnight

    But never fear godfather. We have Hull on Saturday. Surely wenger can’t fuck that game up, then you can come on here and praise him as a genius for beating the mighty hull

  5. Cesc Appeal

    Interesting listening to the Arsecast and that Irish bloke saying he worries about the lack of structure in place at the club (e.g. DoF, football men, coaches etc) something I said yesterday.

    But then, they both went on to say that may be a reason for Wenger to stay, because we’re too vulnerable and naked as a club, hold on, in the same way as people who say ‘he has to stay because of all he’s done,’ that just leads to Wenger in perpetuity then.

    This is a man who is the singular obstacle at Arsenal to a DoF and the like, so Wenger will not allow one in the club, he will not allow the infrastructure to be change, but then that dated infrastructure there because of Wenger’s obstinacy is the reason he has to stay?

    Well then you’re in a never ending loop.

    Did not want it to come to this, but it has got to the stage now where you feel fans have to get nasty and force change, because these shysters are just waiting for the opportune moment to give Wenger his new deal.

    Two year deal on the table, no movement from Gazidis on a DoF or any substantial footballing infrastructure, it all points to them wanting to keep this conveyor belt of averageness rolling.

    So we cannot force Wenger ut becuase of what he’s done for us, so as history will never change we can never force him out then, and we cannot get rid of Wenger because we lack the infrastructure to allow a modern manager to succeed, but Wenger actively blocks DoF’s and the like so we will never be in the place to move on then.

    Look how that worked out, yet another one of those faux hand wringing exercises of ‘I would like the manager to go and change to happen, but…’ (real agenda comes out).

  6. Cesc Appeal

    How much does it suck as well that Fabregas, one of the most talented players I’ve seen at Arsenal in that midfield role, who did not win a single title with us, is looking likely to win his second with Chelsea in three seasons?

  7. JimmytheGun

    Thank you Le Grove for acknowledging Coquelin’s ‘no-look, outside of the boot, 360 spin pass’ on the edge of Chelsea’s box.

    Amazed very few including some normally good Arsenal blogs picked this up and called it out for what it is.

    That’s our defensive midfielder, the only recognised ‘central midfielder’ in the team, playing the kind of pass that gets you dropped from the local under 8’s.

    Of course we should still be embarrassed by what happened afterwards but as is always the case with Arsenal, the whole thing was utterly preventable.

    Contrast that with Kante, who upon winning the ball successfully high up the pitch, dutifully gave it to a more specialised player; both ensuring that the move could progress and that he couldn’t be caught hideously out of position.

    Can’t think of anything else that summed up AFC’s lack of professionalism and the limitations of an individual player quite so well in quite a long time.

  8. OleGunner

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/should-arsene-wenger-step-down-9766554

    We’re being trolled.
    Like 90% of the so called “journo’s” in that article claim Wenger has no reason to walk or be sacked at the end of the season.

    I honestly think they say this shit because like rival fans, they know we will forever be also-rans with Wenger in charge and be a laughing stock to the football world as fodder for their yearly Arsenal collapse “I told you so” articles.

    Shocking and absolutely disgusting they don’t hold Wenger accountable.

  9. Colonel Mustard

    Pedro your next article should be the PR attempt to link Alexis and Ozils contract to Wegners…..its the only way they can swing this deal for his new deal. get it out there so we can get Wegner out of Arsenal. its time.

  10. Elmo

    Would be interesting to hear a podcast on realistic expectations for Wenger’s replacement (realistic in the sense of what’s reasonable, not whether he will actually walk because we all know in our hearts it won’t happen).

    Do we need an anti-Wenger to shock the club out of the bad habits (e.g Simeone) or are we best served sticking to the same philosophy but with a more modern pragmatism?

    Who are a few contenders and what would they be looking to do with the formation and the players they would have available?

  11. Micheal

    RIP Joost van der Westhuizen.

    The word great gets thrown around in sport all the time. Sometimes though it is the correct label. This man was one of the most outstanding rugby players of all time.
    Peace, brother.

  12. Thank you and goodnight

    As for the journalists who reckon wenger should stay on, if I was their boss I’d sack all of them as it’s clear to me their judgement is as poor as wenger’s. Every man and his dog can see wenger’s finished and has been for years.

  13. Confidentgoner

    My thoughts on the Chelsea match.

    1. Caveat, Wenger is not only a poor Manager but also a poor tactician.

    2. The Alonso goal should not have stood. A clear red card or yellow card offense.
    This type of intentional play could have caused a severe concussion or a fatality.

    3. That said, the game changed in Hazard and Chelsea’s favour after Bellerin left. A more tactical manager should have removed Theo for Wellbeck as well as bringing in Gabriel. Our team balance went out the window after Bellerin’s injury.

    4. Wenger should just retire. He is so outdated.

  14. Do one gambon

    To be fair those arsenalfan TV guys are embarrassing and seem pretty dumb.

    But I suppose with no protests allowed in ground and difficulty in getting people involved in a march its about the only way to get a point across.

    Still an embarrassment to the club though.
    Credit to that guy Robbie for finding a niche and exploiting the fuck out of it but those fans he interviews, oh my.

  15. The Godfather

    “3. That said, the game changed in Hazard and Chelsea’s favour after Bellerin left. A more tactical manager should have removed Theo for Wellbeck as well as bringing in Gabriel. Our team balance went out the window after Bellerin’s injury.”

    Hey internet Coaching expert how Chelsea exploit the absence of Bellerin? Did any goals come from our right side? Were we repeatedly exposed and multiple chances created from that area of the field?

    You guys are unbelievable. Just love to pop off for nothing smh

  16. The Godfather

    If that Arsenal fan tv guy spent more time using the notoriety gained from free loading on the clubs name to eat better and get fitter then he would be worth paying attention to ..:: what an embarrassing rabble of losers who need to get a life

  17. SuperSwede

    Do you remember when we were fooled to believe there were no room for Cesc at Arsene’al because we already had Özil? Since then we’ve had two full seasons with both Wilshere and Santi out injured, Ramsey nowhere near the form he showed all those years ago due to reoccurring injuries, Özil only the world class player he could be, for half a season every season and le Coq (wtf). We opted for Källström and Flamini instead. Bought El’Neny and Xhaka the Red Card Reindeer.

    Where’s the Hleb? The Nasri? The Reyes? The players that we all new would be world beaters under the once so great Wenger? When we finally have money our statistical analysis company (that we own) advice us from buying Griesmann (could easily been part of the Vela deal with Sociedad). We are on the wrong track in so many dimensions It’s easy to lose, well ehh… track of it all.

  18. Do one gambon

    Godfather

    Not sure what his appearance has got to do with anything. He’s obviously making money doing it too otherwise he wouldn’t be doing it so he must have some brains. As a business idea its pretty good.

    He does have a habit of interviewing complete losers though. Probably deliberate, sadly idiots would gain more clicks than sensible well measured people.

  19. Duzie

    Where are we heading to? The meltdown is going to be enormous, if Wenger eventually gets his contract extended.
    I reiterate, you UK fans are the cause of this stink. You are rather passive about the way the club is being run. I am sorry.

  20. Pedro

    Godfather, didn’t realise you had to want to fuck your youtube stars. That’s an embarrassing thing to share online.

  21. Jim Lahey

    @SuperSwede –

    I remember when the whole Cesc leaving Barca was going down and you had countless people shitting on about how there was no room for Cesc because we had Ozil, completely overlooking that it was both Ramsey and Wilshere that would be up for the chop if Fabregas came back not Ozil… Fucking hell how we could do with him now.

  22. The Godfather

    Do One Gambon:

    Reputable studies have shown that credibility and acceptance are affected by a sources physical appearance .

    You can’t be critiquing world class athletes while looking like a hippo, I’m sorry. Dude doesn’t have good looking genes, okay I get it, not his fault.

    But to appear before a global audience and provide an avenue to slag off world class athletes while looking like that? Cmon now.

    Sorry Robbie feel free to include a salad in your diet and some miles on the treadmill homie …

  23. Pedro

    The Godfather, you can’t take an intellectual high ground when stating that how you look affects the strength of your opinion.

    What an awful comment to make.

  24. Xman

    Ozil was just a passenger on the field. He never trscked back. Coqshame, Bosnieny and Musty were single handedly taken to the cleaner by Hazard. What a shame. Cech was awlful. Theo was running like zombieno impact. Help me to ask Specialist in failure, money pinching Wenger why is he not giving Lucas Perez more game time? The same thing he did to Joel Campbell despite his work rate at the club, he has started it with Perez. Wonger LOL, so long as you’re the manager, arsenal will not win EPL and UCL period.

  25. jwl

    Any Atlanta Falcons fans who also supported Hillary Clinton have just received two, swift kicks to their goolies that they’ll likely never forget. Best kind of game, yesterday’s Super Bowl. Rollercoaster of emotions for both sides, obviously better when your team wins.

  26. Danish Gooner

    It has already started Pedro.Arsenal have 200 mil in the bank storkes a rippe at the moment.But Wenger would never start a squad revolution,the only time he svigtes more Then Five players were back in his first full season,since Then it has always been 2 or 3 very ofte ending with an internal solution.But lazy journos Will keep publishing these kind of stories AS long AS someone click Them.

  27. SuperSwede

    @Jim Lahey

    Indeed. Last year we forced Rosicky to stay on for another year and used his services to an absolute minimum (did he get any minutes at all?). Next year it will be a broken Cazorla sitting off his time in the Arsene’al prison. That’s one hell of a strategy to leave no space whatsoever in the salary budget for reinforcement. And then Diaby, don’t even get me started on that criminal way of using money provided by fans to the club…

  28. TT

    “And then Diaby, don’t even get me started on that criminal way of using money provided by fans to the club…”

    you people dont get it do you? Just stop spending money on this shit show and you wont be long in seeing the changes.

  29. slade

    JWL: “Any Atlanta Falcons fans who also supported Hillary Clinton have just received two, swift kicks to their goolies…”

    Fascinating. You are fascinating.

  30. Confidentgoner

    Godfather,

    Not sure you understand the finer aspects of the beautiful game. If you did not notice the imbalance and the ease Hazard and Alonso operated right after Bellerin, I cannot help you.

  31. Confidentgoner

    Coq should not start for us again. He needs to come in late in the second half when we need to close out a game.

    Ox did OK in the midfield. I will drop Ozil against Bayern. He is useless in the crunch games.

    Would have Niles play ahead of Coq. Much better tackler, faster and better passer of the ball.

    Best for everyone is for Wenger to announce his retirement at season end.

  32. Red&White4life

    “Best for everyone is for Wenger to announce his retirement at season end.”

    A dream so sweet… which will stay at the state of a dream.

  33. The Godfather

    Godfather,Not sure you understand the finer aspects of the beautiful game. If you did not notice the imbalance and the ease Hazard and Alonso operated right after Bellerin, I cannot help you.

    ……….

    Again be silent and stop announcing to the world of LeGrove that you’re nothing more than a clanging drum.

    Again how did Chelsea exploit the absence of Bellerin?

    You have no answer so just be quiet and go away … it’s fans like you that make clubs ignore reasonable voices smh

  34. The Godfather

    “The Godfather, you can’t take an intellectual high ground when stating that how you look affects the strength of your opinion.What an awful comment to make.”

    Pedro you’re an intelligent man and I assume you are familiar with numerous communicator to receiver studies.

    All I’m saying is that you can’t look like a slob, while free loading off of the clubs name and inspiring petulant wannabes to slag off the team to the amusement of our rivals …. sorry that’s so pathetic and he’s a bloody free loading charlatan.

    Not surprised he looks like a Baby Hippo …

  35. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘Would have Niles play ahead of Coq. Much better tackler, faster and better passer of the ball.’

    Based on what? that one game against the S’hampton second string? Good grief, our fans can sometimes be so reactionary and downright embarrassing.

  36. Up 4 grabs now

    Evening all,

    We get smashed 8-2, 6-0 etc, etc.
    We lose to league one opposition,
    We can’t win the easiest title race last year, when everyone was shooting themselves in the foot.
    We lose our best players over the last ten years, and don’t replace them, although not lately. (Alexis will be off soon though)
    We blow up every year at the same stage of the season.

    All of these things happen and Wenger goes nowhere.
    Protesting won’t help, ditching your season ticket won’t help because the waiting list will snap it up.
    Not turning up for games, who cares Stan has your money already.
    I don’t wish the guy dead, but that is the only way he leaves, sorry. #twomorefuckingyears.

  37. Rambo Ramsey

    Lol@ blaming Arsenal fan tv for highlighting the divide between the fanbase. How about blaming the person who was/is actually responsible for this divide, the frustration and the toxicity among the fans?

  38. S Asoa

    Up 4grabs now

    Wenger is a shameless old whore . It is said he earned 100 million £ for 13 years of failure.
    But it is the fans duty to shame the Con Wenger . Let him know he stinks . Until, hopefully he moves off or dies .

  39. TitsMcGee

    Wenger apparently due to announce he’s staying during the next international break. So the next PR assault will be on your hope”

    Only at Arsenal would this be tolerated. He’s done absolutely ZILCH to be granted anything but his walking papers. Arsenal fans take it in stride.

  40. TitsMcGee

    Btw Pedro that was the biggest choke ever in the SB . So many things had to go wrong for Atlanta to blow that lead and they did every single one of them.

  41. Up 4 grabs now

    Asoa, there’s the problem though, his ego won’t let him leave, even if we did finish out the top four he’ll still think he’s the man to get us back in it.
    He still believes he can win the league or champions league.

    And no one else at the club will boot him out.
    All this talk of needing to feel wanted by the fans is bullshit as well.
    When everyone in the world can see the problems, and can see what’s going to happen at certain parts of the season, why can’t he?

  42. Tipster

    Was listening to Gary Neville defending Wenger and how we should be grateful, question to Neville would be, if he was manager of Man Utd, Chelsea, l’pool would he still be in a Job,,, Nope, maybe Crewe Alex…

  43. Tipster

    Fergie and Wenger used to be big rivals, then we faded and suddenly Ferguson was singing his praises, followed shortly after by Robin VP moving. Says it all.

  44. Up 4 grabs now

    Did Gary Neville really say that it was difficult for Wenger to compete because of the club’s with oil money? It didn’t stop Leicester last year.

  45. Frankie T

    I dream of the following next year. Although a dream is all it will be. I don’t think we need wholesale changes on the players. Just a newmanager and clear out a few deadwood players and we could be a force again.

    Manager: Allegri

    System 3-4-1-2

    Hart/new gk (scout an unknown)

    Holding Kos Mustafi

    Bellerin. Rabiot Cazorla. Perez

    J. Rodriguez

    Sanchez Welbeck

    2nd string

    Ospina

    Gabriel Mertesacker Monreal

    Ox. Xhaka Elneny. Iwobi

    Wilshere

    Walcott Giroud

    Sell:
    Ozil
    Cech
    Ramsey
    Gibbs

    That’s enough money recouped to get Rodiriguez in and then spend what else is needed on Rabiot and Hart. And most importantly have a manager to get them to perform.

  46. Rambo Ramsey

    Majority of the fanbase have a deep rooted respect for Wenger that can’t ever be shaken. They’d rather wait for Wenger to realize he’s past-it or for the board to tell it to him.

    The board know that most fans love Wenger and thus don’t want to be on the wrong end of a fan backlash by disrespecting Wenger. They’re waiting for the tide to turn amongst the fans or for Wenger to resign on his own accord.

    Wenger probably thinks he’s doing a marvelous job cause everyone around him is busy fanning air up his bum. The fans don’t want to say the truth, the board don’t want to say the truth. Hence he goes on.

    Is it any wonder the seemingly never ending rut the club finds itself in? How can it not when nobody is willing to make a move?

  47. Tippitappi

    fact is wenger is good and easy copy for lazy jurnos and pundits they’d have to work a bit harder if he went, over the years they’ve lived off his failings… easy pickings their loath to lose hence the rallying round and slagging off the fans

  48. EN1AFC

    The Godfather

    Can’t wait to see you on AFTV next week telling DT and Robbie they are fat, ugly free loading charlatans.

    You would melt quicker than a chocolate teapot if confronted by either of them.

  49. Masterstroke

    How many Untold Arsenal supporters does it take to change a lightbulb?
    None! They prefer to sit in darkened rooms wallowing in the misery of the latest results.
    Has anyone looked there this week?

  50. qna

    Hope Gary Neville isn’t trying to put himself in contention as Wengers personally chosen successor. Surely we have learnt something from Fergies exit. Would not surprise me in the least if that happened. After all he did so well at Valencia.

  51. Charles

    I told that Robbie on Saturday that AFTV is an embarrassment with the whoppers he interviews I also said he comes across ok just leave it out with the BOOM fella and that other melt Claude, he told me to fuck off and that I was bullying the wrong man… it was only a bit of feedback… he towered over me as well ,hardly bullying having an opinion..

  52. Rainman

    Yea, had a look, it was a blamefest. The referee destroyed the game, apparently. Alonso should have been sent off blah blah blah. Might have a point tho, but more of a diversionary tactic to protect their KING, Arsene Wenger I, cos they refused to address other reasons why we lost.

  53. Alan

    Chelsea take a hammering at the Emirates and Conte goes away, assess what’s wrong with the team and makes adjustments as needed.
    Wenger gets ANOTHER hammering at the bridge and he’ll change nothing….

    What an absolute disgrace. There have been times over the last few years where I wish I could just stop following the ‘copy and paste’ effect of the last 10 years!

    Even though i know nothing will change, i still go back, watch games, trail the internet for articles, read up on the youth teams….hoping for change…. Einstein said the definition of insanity was doing the same thing and expecting a different result…so is it the fans or Arsene that’s insane??

  54. Jim Lahey

    @Alan –

    “Chelsea take a hammering at the Emirates and Conte goes away, assess what’s wrong with the team and makes adjustments as needed.”

    He didn’t even have to go away, he addressed the problem during the game!

  55. Masterstroke

    I’m OK with Arsenal Fan TV. They don’t always get it right and Claud has got himself cult status now, but I like Robbie, he’s the sort of guy I could have a pint or two with.
    This business with Neville is such massive publicity for them.

  56. TitsMcGee

    It’s utterly amazing that this fraud is about to sign another extension. Surreal. Twilight zone -esque .

    Chelsea are well poised to add their what? 5th title since we last won one? What gets lost in the hand-job fest at the Emirates is that while we tread water everyone else is taking turns crossing the finish line.

    Watching the replay of the game Conte and Abramovich are jumpinh

  57. TitsMcGee

    Watching the replay of the game Conte and Abramovich are jumping up and down after Hazard’s goal.

    Kronke prob didn’t even know we had a game on Saturday.

  58. Chika

    Iwobi and Perez as wing backs?

    Another no nothing resident expert. LoL

    Wenger’s time is surely up. I hope the board recognises it!

  59. Masterstroke

    I’ve just posted on 7am kick off to the effect that Gazidis, Kronke & Son don’t know how to recognise managerial talent in the same way as David Dein and will probably install some US acolyte cum coach.
    They’re having a big discussion about this over and it’s good to get the perspective of mostly US commenters, and they do it with such literal skills.

  60. The Godfather

    “I told that Robbie on Saturday that AFTV is an embarrassment with the whoppers he interviews I also said he comes across ok just leave it out with the BOOM fella and that other melt Claude, he told me to fuck off and that I was bullying the wrong man… it was only a bit of feedback… he towered over me as well ,hardly bullying having an opinion..”

    Hmmm so someone who makes a living off of a baying mob screaming for the head of Arsene is so thin skinned at an opinion LOL how predictable ..:: what’s he gonna do when people start digging into his life and background and all the skeletons start coming to life

  61. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Gambon made a point earlier that wenger has spent more money than Chelsea in recent years …
    Sums it up
    Can’t do it with
    Can’t do it without money …

    Case closed

    He is cooked at the club

    If he gets a new deal the waiting list that is there will be gone …

  62. Pedro

    If someone came up to me and told me they thought Le Grove was shit, outside Arsenal, I would be in fight mode.

    Not sure people understand how intimidating that is… and also, people don’t want feedback when they’re working or out on the street.

  63. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Wenger has totally ripped this club apart …

    I fight on the terraces
    In fighting in the media …

    We can only assume that their is infighting in the boardroom …

    13 years 2 grade b trophies ….

    It can’t be purely football why he wants to stay on, it has to be money …

    This had to end soon otherwise we will have to downscale to,a 40,0000 stadium

  64. London gunner

    Pedro

    This wait and see approach or yours really isn’t working.

    You need to protest and encourage protest from fellow fans.

    No matter what you say when things got ugly for Wenger a couple years back before we won the fa cup it was proper hairy for him.

    I think he could be ousted their just has to be a collective will that maintains constant pressure.

  65. salparadisenyc

    Agree with that, pretty realistic to say its going to go bad vs Bayern. After that this season is a very long march for little to no reward. With Wenger and his deal being in every supporters mind / topic of conversation.

    Not going to be pretty for Arsene at all and if he’s looking for love to make him stay were in luck.

  66. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Nor

    There is no mention of what it wants to achieve ..
    No mention of how many signatures required ?

    Just a uk customs page ?

    I thonk you need to make it with more information for people to,sign up to …

    Me personally it looks like a government form an I ain’t going to help them .

  67. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    The media need to be the ones doing the kicking …

    He won’t leave unless a doctor tells hi. He needs to retire …

    Otherwise he will retire a day after he dies …

  68. Dissenter

    Perdo,
    You’re not just a NYC based blogger .
    You can organized a demonstration in front of Trump towers.
    Make Arsenal Great Again #MAGA

  69. Thank you and goodnight

    Just watching sky sports news and Paul Merson talking in March 2016 about Arsenal. He tells sky sports to tape it and play it back in March 2017 and it will be the same old same old. If one of our legends can see how fucked the team is under arsehole wanker then how comes the AKB’S can’t? Fucking joke of a manager. I’m more and more convinced every day that we won things in his early tenure in spite of him not because of him. No one becomes as shit as he does unless it was
    A) a fluke
    B) or he’s gone nuts just like Gambon says

  70. Thank you and goodnight

    Yeah what do the media know. After all some of them still think wenger is a good manager….like fuck

  71. Charles

    that’s the thing Pedro I didn’t say it was shit, I said it was embarrassing interviewing nuggets like that Claude and yes it was subjective but also balanced I also told him what I liked about it as well.. he decided to get all touchy about it even tho I asked him if he wanted some feedback… ffs.. the industry I’m in I’m constantly criticised, won’t make me all brave..

  72. WengerEagle

    Charles

    What’s wrong with Claude?

    I think that he’s a top bloke, not the most articulate but by far the most genuine interview on the entire channel.

    He’s been beaten down by the failure, guy barely even gets worked up anymore when we lose, Claude of 2014 passed on the torch to DT- who I don’t like that much, lad is sponging off that channel Big time.

  73. WengerEagle

    Charles

    At least Claude gives the team credit and criticism when they deserve it, you can call that flip flopping but to me it’s the right attitude for a supporter.

    The likes of Chris and Ty are far more embarrassing than Claude is. Blaming losing on the fucking rain and bending over backwards to blindly defend a man that he’s not related to or even knows personally, is he not like 45? It’s tragic.

    Agree with you on that thundercunt fat Boom fella though, he’s an unwashed gooch.

  74. mano'gunner

    The Cesc for Ozil comments earlier really made me think. If we’d got Cesc back he wouldn’t restrict us from switching to a solid 4-3-3 as he is more than capable of playing a CM.
    Unlike our ‘special’ Ozil who is only able to operate in the AM position (and he has been of much use there lately /s). He will be even more useless in CM and is really holding us back tactically. And the fact he is a guaranteed starter too.

  75. Mick Kartun

    Alan
    February 6, 2017 19:44:28.

    What an absolute disgrace. There have been times over the last few years where I wish I could just stop following the ‘copy and paste’ effect of the last 10 years!

    Even though i know nothing will change, i still go back, watch games, trail the internet for articles, read up on the youth teams….hoping for change…. Einstein said the definition of insanity was doing the same thing and expecting a different result…

    so is it the fans or Arsene that’s insane??

    —–

    hmmmm….good question…

    good question…

    good question…

  76. Mick Kartun

    Can someone just take the sad dying old dog to the woods and finished him off?

    The old dog sad face says it all, he is waiting for someone to put him out of his misery.

    Take my shotgun with you.

  77. WrightIsGod

    Cesc Appeal

    “Interesting listening to the Arsecast and that Irish bloke saying he worries about the lack of structure in place at the club (e.g. DoF, football men, coaches etc) something I said yesterday.”

    Not sure you did howself myself and dissenter said these are the reasons why it’s in fact a very hard job for Wenger’s successor. You and Pedro were saying the opposite.

  78. qna

    Dissenter : Perdo,
    You’re not just a NYC based blogger .
    You can organized a demonstration in front of Trump towers.
    Make Arsenal Great Again #MAGA

    Lol. I want a new manager that will build a wall between Emirates and White Hart Lane…. and make them pay for it.

  79. rollen

    The Godfather
    February 6, 2017 15:20:47

    If that Arsenal fan tv guy spent more time using the notoriety gained from free loading on the clubs name to eat better and get fitter then he would be worth paying attention to ..:: what an embarrassing rabble of losers who need to get a life

    lol who are you then?

  80. Black Hei

    After breaking out from my self-imposed online ban, I think it is time to come out into the sunshine again.

    It does looks like it is time for Wenger to leave, at the end of the season. Always thought he would leave but to do so in this fashion is disheartening.

    Will always have a soft spot for Wenger no matter what happens.

    Time to pop the whisky bottle.

  81. Snowman

    “that’s the thing Pedro I didn’t say it was shit, I said it was embarrassing interviewing nuggets like that Claude and yes it was subjective but also balanced I also told him what I liked about it as well.. he decided to get all touchy about it even tho I asked him if he wanted some feedback… ffs.. the industry I’m in I’m constantly criticised, won’t make me all brave.”
    You sound like a little pussy. I would probably take your lunch money and lock you in the toilets.

  82. Snowman

    The Godfather,

    Are those Rob’s insecurities or yours? You’re exposing yourself as an insecure brainless twat by criticizing other people’s appearances. its embarrassing.

    AFTV does great. All you people criticizing probably don’t attend any matches. So why don’t you start your own untold version of AFTV?

  83. Spanishdave

    If he signs and then the club say it’s to allow the transition to the next manager that will be the worst possible scenario.
    The players such as Sanchez will be off two years of directionless management will not attract top quality players.They will not want to join a sinking ship

  84. Black Hei

    Spanishdave

    I think the transition is well and truly on the way. We have been reported tapping up Allegri and Lepzig’s manager and that is probably done with Wenger on board.

    Likely Wenger told the board to find a replacement for himself. Any talk of contract extension is probably only if they can’t find their targets. Though, I think Wenger will walk this season.

    Warning: I still have my AKB glassess on

  85. Redtruth

    Lets say Arsenal had beaten Watford and Chelsea all this Wenger bashing would have been replaced wuth s Wenger love in.
    I say bash the fraud regardless of results.

  86. Thank you and goodnight

    @Redtruth

    Not me son. Even if we fluke the CL I want the fucking fraud out. Look at his record in management. 30 odd years and what 4 titles. Never won in Europe and yet he’s seen as a genius….like fuck

  87. Redtruth

    Every season ***** hijack the blog with their brainless reading of the game and then come February /March they disappear down the plughole along with Wenger’s Arsenal.

  88. Thank you and goodnight

    As for DT and Troops they know what they’re talking about. Everyone can see wenger is finished hence spud and chav fans wanting wenger to stay. You AKB’S really think the board or owner give a fuck about you lot….Yeah alright. Go back to the beginning of this season and previous seasons. You will see people like me, cesc, Gambon,Bamford, wenger Eagle etc etc predicting how this season will pan out……and guess what we were right AGAIN! We’re not on 8.5 million a year but we always call it right. The man is finished and if deaths needed to get rid of him then all I have to say is #goteamreaper

  89. Thank you and goodnight

    Sorry # goteamgrimreaper

    The man’s a fucking imbecile. Talks about physicality needed to win league then signs dwarves. It’s ok if the dwarves have the ability of Sanchez and Messi but apart from Sanchez ours don’t.