Friday Digest: The case for Payet | Giroud form a worrying thing? | Banter legend to move on

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Carl Jenkinson, the banter king, Arsenal supporter as a child, posters of Theirry still on his wall… looks likely to move to Crystal Palace. He’s a hard worker, has an engine that’ll run for days and he looked like one of the nicest English players ever to grace an Arsenal shirt. I’ll never forget him looking like he’d accidentally walked into every picture ever taken of him. Good luck Carl, you’ll smash it down there.

Carl Jenkinson (Arsenal). JGs Camping on the pitch promotion. Club Day. Arsenal Training Ground. London Colney, Herts, 23/4/14. Credit : Arsenal Football Club / David Price.

Carl Jenkinson (Arsenal). JGs Camping on the pitch promotion. Club Day. Arsenal Training Ground. London Colney, Herts, 23/4/14. Credit : Arsenal Football Club / David Price.

In other news Dimitri Payet has apparently gone on strike in a bid to move away from the slags down the road in their shiny crap stadium everyone hates. LOL at the Hammers fans who thought it’d be an easy move and CL football was pending.

I DIGRESS. Payet going on strike. As football fans we look at players through a different prism of reality to our own. For me, if I were him, I’d have bombed off West Ham in the summer, especially at 29, ESPECIALLY if I’d smashed it up with a terrific Euros. He didn’t, he stayed loyal to his club, he’s gone back and it’s in absolute pieces down there. Bigger pitch the team can’t adapt to, a new home everyone hates and a manager who has made a few grim decisions… like signing the worst penalty taker in history.

Anyway, everyone is up in arms. He’s a slag. You don’t strike. He’s a piece of work we’d never want near our team. HIS HEAD IS GONE. Well, scratch beneath the surface of uproar and media offence and you see a different picture. Firstly, his assists and goals need to be put in the context of his awful team. West Ham flew last year, they haven’t this year, that’s going to affect output. But look, chances created… 72 so far this season. I think Ozil is on 42. Payet’s KeyP (key passes per game) is 4.1, a full 25% higher than City superstar KDB. 37% better than Ozil. 46% better than Messi!

This is one of those football uproars that doesn’t have merit, at least from a performance perspective. Jamie Redknapp criticizing his game this year.

‘I have watched a lot of West Ham this season and Payet has looked like he doesn’t want to be there. He doesn’t seem as fit as he did last season and his body language smacks of a player who wants to leave.’

It’s just not on. In the same article, as an infographic, they highlight that Payet compared to last season has run just 2 miles less, lost 1% on his incredible passing accuracy of 82% and has taken more shots (trying to help the team) but at a lower percentage of accuracy (likely because he’s doing it on his own).

Now, my point here, is if he’s available for £19m, would he not be worth a gamble? Santi Cazorla, apparently had to have more surgery, we’ve missed his movement and incisive passing / ability to break the lines and dribble past people, would he not be worth a punt if we’re serious about a challenge? We’re bodies down in midfield as it is, he’d be a pretty good solution for a good price. Can play across the front line, would be way more affective out wide than what we have at the moment, would bring goals, assists… if we can play Chambo through the middle, I’d rather Payet.

On the strike issue, if you personally, yep, you at your computer eating a bag of Wotsits looking at LadBible videos, hate your job, you can leave. Footballers can’t, and it’s kind of absurd when you think about it. Freedom of movement, within reason, should be the same for everyone.

Fully appreciate if any of our boys tried this, I’d be furious. But whatever. If you can’t be a little agendarised in your blogging, what’s the damn point?

As for Swansea. I’d love to know the stat for how often we are the first team to play a club with a new manager. For Swansea, it’ll be the second time this season, after their appalling hire BOB BRADLEY AMERICA FUCK YEAH was fired. This time, they’ve opted for what seems like an odd choice, in Paul Clement. Clearly a super talented coach, but the critique of him at Derby was his systems needed good players… when you’re in a dog fight with bad players, I kind of feel installing a Ferrari thinker might not be the best option. But hey, it’ll be interesting to see what he does with the dross he’s inherited.

For Arsenal, this is the chance to do the double over a team we’ve struggled with over the years. I still have nightmares of last year conceding a goal from a terrible Petr Cech hoof. Awful. Montero always looks like a god against us. Hopefully we can put them to one side and also pull our away form back into the respectable line having only taken one point from our last 3 games. We’ve also gone on an exceptional non-cleansheet run away from him, failing in 6 attempts, something to consider when you’re whacking skippy about our back 5.

Arsene Wenger spent his time talking about contract shiz. This on Ozil’s managerial Stockholm-syndrome.

“No, not necessarily. He would like to know what happens on the managerial front of course, but I don’t think that’s the main part of his decision.

“I think it’s part of it, but it’s not the only thing. There are many other ingredients in every negotiation. Hopefully we will find a conclusion with him very quickly.

“Let’s not forget that all these players [Ozil and Alexis Sanchez] have 18 months to go [on their contracts]. That’s a very long time in football.”

I just picture some sort of GoT thing going on there.

‘WHAT’S YOUR NAME’

‘Rrr…r…r….reek’

‘That’s better, now run along and make a nice no-look pass’

A key ingredient to the game tomorrow will no doubt be Olivier Giroud who has banged in 12 in 17 games. Amazing what being called average by the fans of your club and country can do to your mental state. Great to see him proving the ‘haters’ wrong, but slightly annoying that we had so much joy with Sanchez through the middle, and we’re reverting back to a Giroud system which we know has mobility issues and it’s certainly not a viable option at the highest level. Dreading us playing him against Bayern Munich. They’ll eat that up.

This comes back to what I was saying the other day, we’re not about a system, we’re about a mix of players Wenger likes. We made a lot of progress with  Sanchez playing like the best striker in the world, now Giroud is in form, we’re back to last season. Great if results hold, but likely it’ll hit a limitation roadblock at some point. I think this comment sums up the above thought, when Wenger was asked about transfers.

“We have Welbeck coming back, Giroud, Sanchez, Walcott. We have a high number of strikers.”

Everyone can be a striker. Everyone can be every type of midfielder. Crazy.

A nice 3pm kick off. Hopefully a lovely 3 points. See you on the other side and apologies for calling the blog a Friday digest, tbf, it hurt me more than you. I’m on a 6 day week now.

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  1. underrated Coq

    People need to stop having Xhaka as a fixture in midfield. He has done no better than Coquelin,Ramsey,Elneny. A 32 year old Cazorla-who was not even a CM for most of his career-comfortably sh!ts all over Xhaka.

  2. DaleDaGooner

    London, ha ha ha, good one

    Cesc, I guess you’re right. I just want to prepare my mind to accept what might be. Though I think contract or not, this is Sanchez. But even if He and Ozil sign on, we need to get in top quality replacements.

    I know it’s fantasy when it comes to Arsenal, but indulge me……which players can we pluck in summer time that would alleviate losing Sanchez?

  3. London gunner

    Also I hate posters who just see Sanchez as a hard worker but ignore his first class skill.

    The way he takes down and perfectly traps a high long ball pass.

    The way he popped out that cross for giroud a goal from a standing start

    The way he had that lovely turn and reverse pass to Ramsey which he should have buried

    The perfect instinctive volleyed finish it may look simple but many players would ballon that over the cross bar.

    The thing is with Sanchez he isn’t being played in his primary position and he is the most man marked player in our team yet he still absolutely showcases the best player hands down no contest.

    He is more than just a work horse. Now imagine he was in a team with other world class attackers he would be even better as he wanted constantly being sorrounded by 5 players.

    I mean when Walcott was playing it made a huge difference just imagine you had a player like Reid or even fekir on the other wing.. Sanchez would be even more beast mode.

    And the point that people go well we can replace him with another world class player even if we did that’s still one step forward two step back. Or constantly treading water. We need to add additional world class players not subtract than add.

  4. Dissenter

    I think Alexis saw 2-3 goals for him in that leaky Swansea defense that was tiring already.
    To be fair to him he was cordial to his the subs waiting on the sidelines.
    God knows what he was mumbling under his breath. They shouldn’t have draped him with the warm poncho. They should have let him be.

  5. leftsidesanch

    @Karim I can’t see Caz coming back into the team this season bar a substitute for a few games at the conclusion.

  6. Wallace

    “”Alexis Sanchez is not injured, he just wanted to stay on the pitch. I did not want to take a gamble on him.

    “There are many good team around us and everyone is doing well. We can only focus on our results and hope some go our way.””

  7. Jim Lahey

    @London –

    Sanchez turns fools like they weren’t there, our best player by a mile. Would d anything to keep him at the club, but it looks like he will go… 🙁

  8. London gunner

    Let’s be honest ox welbeck and Perez aren’t good enough on the wing. Walcott a great option of the bench and iwobi should be playing centrally.

    Sanchez is the level we should be looking at for the world class player we need to buy for the right

  9. Jim Lahey

    @London –

    We should have brought in Draxler and done everything to get Payet in too, neither were CL cup tied (Was Draxler… ). Played Sanchez up top, Ozil behind, Draxler and Payet on either side of Ozil and Sanchez.

  10. Dissenter

    The dumbest post in the DM;
    “Swansea are without doubt the worst team in England…utter pants”

    The perfect comeback: “not as bad as your geography skills I’m afraid”

  11. Redtruth

    Too much is read into Sanchez’s reaction.

    Sanchez is fully aware the cameras are picking up on him acting disappointed….
    In other words he’s pretenting he cares

  12. Samesong

    Don’t expect Sanchez to respect Wenger after he played him into the red zone last season and was scared to take him off, and only now he wants to protect him.

    Wenger should of put his foot down last season. Now Sanchez see’s Wenger as a weak manager he can take liberties with.

  13. Redtruth

    “There are many good team around us and everyone is doing well. We can only focus on our results and hope some go our way.””

    How many times has Wenger said this.

  14. Cesc Appeal

    Karim

    Caz is done for the season. No way he comes back, though we will sign him in the summer 😉

    Dale

    I assume you are asking that question in a fantasy land where Wenger is not manager, because with Wenger we would sit on out £150 Million budget, hear how great Walcott, Oxlade, Perez and Welbeck are all summer, hear about Wilshere and Caz being new signings, hear how important signing Ozil up was and then sign a RB on deadline day or something.

    If Sanchez went I would sell Ozil as well and just restructure, that is just me though, you would have about £200 Million to go out then and make some really smart additions, starting with the midfield, looking at a couple of players from Keita, Paredes, Tolisso, Rabiot, Pjanic etc, maybe a wide playmaker looking at nabbing Gaitan, Bernardo Silva, Fekir (if he recovers properly) etc and then an ST.

    In terms of a world where Sanchez leaves and Ozil stays on, just replacing Sanchez we would need a wide playmaker and then a ST from his fee and then some transfer budget, if we did that, properly as well not some bargain basement shit, I would be okay with Sanchez going, sort of.

    But then if we had that attitude Sanchez would not be going.

    The fact Sanchez wants out tells me that it is likely we will f**k up replacing him, as we have done for the past twelve years, took us three years to replace Fabregas, still have not replaced RVP etc.

  15. Dissenter

    This Alexis issue is easy though
    He wants 250k weekly.
    Is he worth it…YES
    Pay him and be done with it.

    250k weekly for a world class player is the premium wage for living in a wonderful city and playing for a manager who isn’t going to win the big stuff.

  16. Cesc Appeal

    Jim

    Interesting idea.

    I would not mind seeing Iwobi in a three man middle, as that sort of leggy dribbler who drives out from the middle, but we don’t have the personnel to make it work right now, in my opinion, or the system, Wenger does not do systems.

    That would not work with Ozil in the side for example, interesting idea though, well worth seeing more of Iwobi centrally this season.

  17. Dissenter

    I really think Ozil is EASY to replace.
    All it takes is a 150-200k weekly wage allowance.
    If we get his transfer right we might even make a profit.

  18. Alexanderhenry

    Great result today.
    We’ve got players coming back and we nearly always have a strong spell from new year onwards.
    long way to go and we’re still in it.

  19. DaleDaGooner

    “He is more than just a work horse. Now imagine he was in a team with other world class attackers he would be even better as he wanted constantly being sorrounded by 5 players.”

    Except HE WAS in a team of world class players, in fact he was in a team with 3 demigods as players……he wasn’t up to scratch there

  20. Wallace

    “I really think Ozil is EASY to replace.”

    all players of serious quality are. only a joker would pretend otherwise.

  21. DaleDaGooner

    Ozil sounds like he’s comfortable staying, just wants to know who the feck will be managing his future in London.

    Sanchez is probably angling for more money, some ambition and contracts for his dogs

  22. Dissenter

    If it’s true that a Chinese club is offering 800k weekly for Costa then he should consider it. I know that I would definitely look into it.
    There’s nothing about Costa [or any other player] that oozes loyalty to an employer.
    This is a Brazilian born player who moved to Spain in his twenties and opted not top play for Brazil even though they wanted him to.
    Now think about some astro-turf London club that you have little connection to.

  23. Dream10

    Alexis attitude is probably due to playing out wide. He gets 10 minutes in the minutes in the centre after Giroud was substituted and gets taken off soon after. He missed 15 minutes of quality stat padding at end. He dislikes playing wide. He did little running on the first half on the left. Think it’s #9 or bust for him

  24. underrated Coq

    I find issue with Wenger’s recruitment/tutoring of midfielders, why is it that they all have a strong point–one which they’re really, really good at–but multiple weaknesses?

    The best midfield players are always those who are well rounded-both in the physical aspects and in their technique. Every one of our mid either lacks strength or pace or technique.

    This is where I feel Spurs have done so much better. None of their midfielders may be as good a footballer as Cazorla or can pass as well as Xhaka or has the engine of Ramsey, but they are decent footballers and terrific athletes and have no discernible weakness.

  25. Cesc Appeal

    ‘Chelsea in a worse saga than us with Costa’

    True.

    But again, who would you back to move on from those situations better, to use the transfer money in an ambitious fashion and turn a negative into something positive, Chelsea, Ambromavich and Conte, or Arsenal, Kroenke and Wenger?

    This is the real issue, to do with stride forward, or just paddle in a circle.

  26. Wallace

    Gabriel looks very comfortable at RB. doesn’t carry the offensive threat that Bellerin brings, but in tough away fixtures he’s some good extra insurance at the back.

  27. Redtruth

    “Gabriel looks very comfortable at RB. doesn’t carry the offensive threat that Bellerin brings, but in tough away fixtures he’s some good extra insurance at the back.”

    Swansea’s blunt forward line helped.

  28. Dissenter

    Wallace,
    “Gabriel looks very comfortable at RB. doesn’t carry the offensive threat that Bellerin brings, but in tough away fixtures he’s some good extra insurance at the back.”

    I’m not sure this game will count much as a sample. Swansea were really poor but I agree that he was comfortable.

  29. DaleDaGooner

    You I think our squad would benefit so much from a 3-5-2 formation. Gabriel, Kos and Mustafi and front 2 of Sanchez and Giroud the middle 5 will have Bellerin and the pony Ox at wing backs

  30. WrightIsGod

    The best signing we could make is Simeone.

    Imagine he tempts Greizeman. Imagine Sanchez in a Simeone team. He’d make use of Ramsey’s engine in the right places. He’d feel no way to drop Ozil, even sell him if he wasn’t pulling his weight. The defence would be impenetrable, the midfield would be work horses…..

    Imagine….

    It would be the second coming of George Graham, but better.

  31. WrightIsGod

    Vicky

    And that’s why I hate “fans” who ask, “but who could replace Wenger?”

    Well in the last few years alone the amount of top class managers we’ve seen move around is staggering. AND even though those are taken there are STILL more than a few managers who could spark a new era.

    Who was Wenger when he joined us? No one. He benefitted from a great infrastructure already built. Give another manager the chance to do the same Wenger, instead he’s coming across like a dictator who knows he’s done but will not step down.

    Sad.

  32. Pierre

    Jim Lahey
    “In terms of footballing ability a 32 year old Santi shits on everyone else in our Squad”

    Good to see someone giving Credit to Wenger

  33. DaleDaGooner

    It’s not a matter of a lot of top class manager availability, it’s a matter of who will suit the board agenda, infrastructure and style. It’s a matter of who will the board select.

    Chelsea selected AvB those years ago….look how that turned out.

  34. Pierre

    Wrighrisgod
    “The midfield would be work horses”
    “It would be the second coming of George Graham, but better.”

    Yeah , let’s go back to the days of hillier, jenson, Selley , mcgoldrick and Carter

  35. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    Is it your birthday today?

    Happy birthday, you’re a lot younger than I thought you were, I thought you were about my age, got a few years on you youngen, better heed the wise words of your elder from now on.

  36. DaleDaGooner

    Still trying to figure out how Wenger didn’t win the league last season. More importantly, where’s the Leicester City that won the league last season?

  37. Redtruth

    “Yeah , let’s go back to the days of hillier, jenson, Selley , mcgoldrick and Carter”

    As opposed to Sanogo, Arteta, Jenkinson, Bielik, Chu Young Park, Jeffers, Stepanovs, Senderos, Traore, Zzzzzzzzzz I could name 70 more shit players Wenger has hired.

  38. WengerEagle

    CA

    It is indeed mate, great day for birthdays with LL Cool J, Slick Rick, Dave Grohl and Jason Bateman but more importantly, Karim and WengerEagle.

    How old are you? Had you pegged for the 25-26 range.

    Haha aye, I share the wealth of knowledge that I digest on here from my elders in all walks of life, where do you think my friends now seek legal aid from?

    Cesc Appeal via WengerEagle, that’s where.

  39. Pierre

    “Paul Davies, Michael Thomas, Kevin Richardson……Rocky Rocastle……
    George Graham’s”

    Yep…great midfield……the problem is they were replaced by jenson, Selley, hillier etc

  40. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    Haha.

    I turned twenty-five plus two years not so long ago, so you were not far wrong, on that horrible downward slope to thirty now.

    Got a bad feeling that by the time I do actually turn thirty Wenger will still be here, fingers crossed the same is not true for you!

  41. Pierre

    “Walcott and Ox no better than Carter or McGoldrick.
    Ramsey worse than Selley.
    Xhaka worse than Jensen and Hillier.”

    Obviously you never went to watch the George graham side in the mid 90’s….one word comes to mind …hoooooooooooof

  42. Redtruth

    “Yep…great midfield……the problem is they were replaced by jenson, Selley, hillier etc”

    Who went on to achieve a Domestic Cup Double in 93 and European glory in 94…lol lol

  43. Pierre

    “As opposed to Sanogo, Arteta, Jenkinson, Bielik, Chu Young Park, Jeffers, Stepanovs, Senderos, Traore, Zzzzzzzzzz I could name 70 more shit players Wenger has hired.”

    The difference is that none of those players you name are 1st team players ….jenson, hillier, Selley were

  44. WengerEagle

    Thanks Dale buddy.

    Cesc that’s funny because I was just about to post about how when we beat Wigan Athletic on my 30th birthday in 2025, Wenger will be on wheels or being optimistic, sporting a zimmer frame high-fiving Mikael Silvestre in the dugout {Bouldy’s replacement when he grows a set and challenges the buffoon}.

    His post match interview will feature such gems as ‘the handrake’. ‘mental strength’ and ‘super super quality’.

    Something tells me that he’ll still be playing Walcott in 2025…

  45. Redtruth

    Check your facts McGoldrick and Carter rarely figured and Selley made only 42 appearances in 5 years at Arsenal while Hillier won a league title with Arsenal which is more than what Fabregas could manage.

  46. Jim Lahey

    4-0 win, always great, but did anyone really enjoy watch that today?

    It all seems so disjointed …

    @WE – I hit the big 30 last year… I could have swore I was 23 like 2 years ago, the time really flies! Anyway happy birthday!

  47. Jim Lahey

    Life must be so tough for Barca fans, amazing team after amazing team, champions leagues and leagues are the norm, best football to watch on the planet, cheap as shit tickets to watch the games, awesome weather all year round…

    Tough

  48. leftsidesanch

    Sanchez tweets that he’s happy for the victory and the team, hopefully that stops the false theories because of his regular strops whenever he’s subbed off.

  49. Pierre

    Redtruth
    “Check your facts McGoldrick and Carter rarely figured and Selley made only 42 appearances in 5 years at Arsenal while Hillier won a league title with Arsenal ”

    You forgot to mention the great John jenson …

  50. Pierre

    Good for you red, if your preference is the Sam alladyce version of football then so be it ……
    I prefer my football played on the ground …..

  51. Redtruth

    It’s funny how perceptions of Xhaka as a player has changed.
    Prior to his transfer he was touted as a strong no nonsense tackler with bite who was exactly the type of player Arsenal needed.
    Now he’s a supposed to be a cultured passer of a ball …..

  52. Pierre

    redtruth
    What you say is mainly through ignorance…..I was at Highbury when jenson scored his one and only goal for the Arsenal and what a great goal it was …but..jenson , to put it bluntly , was shite …… scoring a goal for Denmark in the final means nothing ….Perry groves scored the winner for Arsenal in a league cup final …does that mean he’s world class

  53. goonerkitt

    George Graham took us to Wrexham in the fa cup and lost. He was manager when we shipped six goals at home to manure in the cup. He was manager when we got knocked out of Europe by Benfica at home 1-3 after a 1-1 draw in Lisbon. He was the manager that sold Rocky and Charlie Nicholas and took us to our lowest league finish for 20 years and he got caught stealing. He also managed spurs……………..other than that he was brilliant!

  54. Redtruth

    “He was the manager that sold Rocky and Charlie Nicholas and took us to our lowest league finish for 20 years and he got caught stealing. He also managed spurs……………..other than that he was brilliant”

    Yet Graham still managed to win two Cups that season…lol

  55. gonsterous

    Arsenal fans don’t know this but xhaka had a horrible first season at gladbach too. Then he adapted to the pace of the bundesliga and went on to establish himself as one of their best players. We need to give our new players time. Not ever one can do a Sanchez but I will reserve judgement at least till the end of next season !!

  56. goonerkitt

    Red, everything you have written about George Graham is true, and in the beginning he was a great manager for Arsenal, but he and Wenger are very similar. Neither could win back to back league titles and both peaked early but were unable to build on it, to create a true dynasty like Busby, Shankly, Paisley or Fergie. They were both stubborn and unable to move with the times. Having said that they are the only managers in the modern era to win the league title having lost one game or less.

  57. WrightIsGod

    Oh and Merson, Parlour…. Just to add to the game of tennis.

    Ian Wright of course is one of the most underrated strikers ever. What a finisher. He meant so much to Arsenal in that period.

    Back ups like John Hartson and Kevin Campbell.

    I was introduced to football with George Graham’s team and I can’t stand by the bashing it gets by the Wenger-apologist-pretentious-football-purists. Zzz

  58. WrightIsGod

    The game was different back then it was hardly about flair, at the best of times it was just about direct wing play in England.

    And for the poster who said Graham stole from the club etc…. Some would argue Wenger and his pet projects have been looting the club for the best part of a decade, and for a lot more money.