Arsene Wenger dances around what will really make Ozil and Sanchez stay

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Well, it’s f*cking cold in Alaska, let me tell you that for free. Couldn’t get into the car for 10minutes because the doors and the boot were iced in.

Arsene Wenger left my hands and toes numb when I read his predictable press conference. He’s taking Alexis to Basel just in case PSG are turned over by team so poor they still consider the magic sponge part of the backroom team.

I don’t mean to be a moaner here, but let’s be real, Arsenal against a top team in the CL are very unlikely to win over two legs unless we do something drastically different this season. 1st or 2nd has marginal consequences for where we finish, we’ve not managed win out against the Barcelona’s or the Bayern’s which some say is fair (I don’t because you should be able to come up with at least a fluke every now and then), but we’re also capable of dropping out against a struggling Monaco.

I really don’t understand why Wenger doesn’t leave Alexis at home. Well, unless he plans to rest him against Stoke so he’s explosive against Everton? Then I’d be fine with his inclusion. I still don’t understand why we need to throttle him every game. The team needs to at least have a go at playing without him so we’re not full on useless if he picks up an injury, which becomes ever more likely the more we continue to persevere with him every game.

The squad is the same as it was at the weekend (if I’m reading Wenger’s comments correctly), bar Coquelin who is suspended. When I wrote the other day that this December would be decided on decisions like who he takes to Basel, this is exactly what I thought he’d do. He can’t resist. Last time took a mega squad to a terrible team away, we lost Santi Cazorla for the rest of his career. Seems a massive risk for a game he could easily rotate in the league cup disappointments who owe us a performance. Also disappointed to see Ozil heading out there a player we know dips bigly in the second half of the season (is it ok to use Trumpism’s?).

Also, what’s up with Perez. Is he a flop or what?

Talking of our star players, Wenger thinks Ozil and Sanchez care about things other than cash money.

“I believe personally, and maybe I am a bit naive, that it’s more about getting to meet the player’s needs. That’s more about the way the club has values, the way the club has ambition, the way the club respects the players.

“So I think, for me, that is more important nowadays and an important ingredient for every player to consider. The money is good everywhere for everybody.

“You know, nowadays, you negotiate with the agents more than with the player. We are in negotiations, yes. The players [Sánchez and Mesut Özil] are 18 months away from the end of their contracts, so it’s normal to be talking. But the players always come in at the end, when it’s a renewal, because with the first contract you need the players present. But after that, when you renew, 90% of the contracts are negotiated with the agents.”


They care about that silverware. Those boys are already rich. More money is keeping up with the Jones’s, and it’s totally acceptable for both of them to think they should earn more money than Adebayor and Nasri. But the key to them staying for me, would be that they’re both able to compete for the top honours in Europe.

Do they think they can achieve that under Arsene Wenger? Maybe not. Which is a problem for two players about to hit their prime. I mean, let’s be real here, Sanchez has played under Pep G, Ozil has played under Mourinho in the good times, they both fully understand where the disparity is… so what do the club do to ensure the two are convinced the future is red and white?

If Wenger is leaving, does Ivan give them a sneak peak at his list of replacements? You’d have to doubt that… but he can’t let them leave before the new manager has had the chance to give them the once over.

I also love that Wenger thinks it’s about values. Like Sanchez is sitting there, casually dabbing lipstick on his dog, as he mulls over the unsung details of the club …

‘Geez, I admire the fact that Arsenal sent Martin Keown to open that pitch for Syrian refugees. I mean, imagine if Vladimir Putin was as deft at dealing with Aleppo as Ivan Gazidis is with the guy who asks about the price of Bovril at the AGM. Wouldn’t the world be a beautiful place? Fuck yeah it would. Where’s that contract, I’m gonna sign whatever the number.’

Values when your life is dogs and football is about having money to treat your dogs well and trophies to make your football seem purposeful.

That’s why I’m very worried about Sanchez becoming one of the best strikers in the world right now. That’s why I’m worried about rumours of Pep flirting with him. That’s why I fear the links to Juventus and Bayern. My world is caving in, SOMEONE MAKE IT STOP.

Right, enjoy the game tonight, pray for a massive rotation, and pray for the hamstrings of all our best players. We have some super important games coming up, this one is the least of our worries…



494 Responses to “Arsene Wenger dances around what will really make Ozil and Sanchez stay”

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  1. gonsterous


    Said it before, will say it again.. we need to sell welbz ( yes I know he’s dat guy , but he is either shit or injured all the time )

  2. Cesc Appeal

    I really like Ozil operating wider, he’s playing like he has more freedom out there, like he can see more and use that left foot

  3. Joe

    If PSG drops points, we’ll all feel stupid about blasting Wenger for not resting Sanchez and Ozil, yeah


    We should be able to beat this shit Basel
    Side with Giroud in the side and Ozil

    It’s not like we are playing v Barca

  4. gonsterous

    Ozil looked pissed while coming off. Ignored Wenger completely !! Wish he would have just shouted in wengers face ” where my money ?”

  5. Alexanderhenry

    Rambo ramsay

    ‘If PSG drops points, we’ll all feel stupid about blasting Wenger for not resting Sanchez and Ozil, yeah?’

    I won’t. I think wenger was right to play them.

  6. gonsterous

    I regret not going to Basel to watch the game. But 150 francs for a ticket on a students budget would have killed Christmas for me 🙁

  7. gonsterous

    Doumbia has always flourished in the Swiss league. Played for Bern young boys and tore the league a new one before heading to Russia..

  8. PaddyV91

    Wengers logic is baffling why must he wait til the customary 70+ min to make the changes where’s the logic? Soon as the fourth goal goes in he should be taking them off game is done…he’s either afraid to do it or is like a big kid who wants to watch all his favourite players for as long as possible and can’t bring himself to bring them off

  9. PaddyV91

    It’s not the players decision when they get rested. The manager is meant to be boss who needs to take decisions for the good of the team so don’t give out that tripe that the players don’t want to be rested

  10. Batistuta

    Man Joe just maybe you could pipe down a bit on the negativity/trolling sometimes, takes the fun out of it when its actually warranted

  11. Bobby 7

    Regarding Wenger and his customary 70min subs, I think there are two possibilities why he does it. First, is that he suffers from severe OCD. Second, that there is some scientific reasoning behind it. I’m inclined to believe that its a mixture of the two with a slight emphasis on the OCD part.

  12. PaddyV91

    Aguero has not played every game for city this season nor has KDB nor has Silva they’ve all been rested at some point in either league or champo league…Chelsea only have 1 a game a week so your talking nonsense

  13. Daz

    “Would he hilarious if Arsenal got Bayern in the draw.”

    Love how Steve has worded this not “we” but arsenal, the Chelsea Wanker

  14. steve

    “Would he hilarious if Arsenal got Bayern in the draw.”Love how Steve has worded this not “we” but arsenal, the Chelsea Wanker

    AM I playing in Arsenal? No I’m not. Dimwit.

  15. ozrus

    steve and Joe. The two little dickheads. hahaha

    Three weeks to go till January 1st, Joe. 10 points behind the EPL leaders. I can’t wait for your reaction. Bet you are going to squirm like a pig.

  16. BacaryisGod

    I’ll hold my hand up. Thought PSG had a certain three points but Arsene was right to secure the three points in case they slipped up.

    I thought Joe was just miserable but his reaction today absolutely proves he’s a troll of the highest order.

  17. steve

    “Wenger was absolutely right to start ozil and sanchez.”

    No he wasn’t as Arsenal should beat Basel without those two.

  18. Danny

    I reckon this 70th minute subs thing is something Wenger has written into players contracts, appearance bonuses etc.
    I think it’s in that book by Jon Smith.

  19. Joe


    You make a stupid comment if going to call you out on it

    I ain’t your mom so ain’t going to sugar coat it for you

    And if you think we needed Ozil and Sanchez to beat that shite Basel tonight you are as stupid as you sound

  20. Jeff

    But nobody expected PSG to not win at home so that was really a bonus. Nevertheless a brilliant performance from the trio – Perez, Sanchez and Ozil. Gibbs I thought also did very well tonight.

  21. raptora

    “just in case PSG are turned over by team so poor they still consider the magic sponge part of the backroom team.”

    Get effin destroyed Pedro. That’s what you deserve for calling out a team of my nationality. The so-called pub team even deserved the win and the end bu still literally gave Arsenal the first place. Not cool bm-ing teams with what is 1/100 of Arsenal’s budget. Teams who give their heart out on the pitch. Still with our luck we gonna get RM or Juve or smth.

  22. Joe

    I’ve said is we should have been able to beat a shite Basel without Ozil and Sanchez

    Actually complimenting our squad and you lot think I’m
    Trolling hahaha


  23. BacaryisGod

    Let me guess, Joe. You want Atletico next round so Simeone can show us how badly we need him as our next manager when they thump us?

    Funnily enough, I want the easiest draw possible in the last 16 and then maybe Leicester in the QF. I actually want us to have the best chance of winning.

  24. Joe


    HHa we always make the round of 16. How are you surprised.

    The q/f’s are a long ways away.

    And we are in Dec. a long way from competing for the title.

    So funny. You guys are so happy with the win you are focussing on moaning about me


  25. Pierre

    I’ve said is we should have been able to beat a shite Basel without Ozil and Sanchez”

    So why couldn’t PSG beat the pub team ludogrets if it’s So easy …..clueless

  26. BacaryisGod

    The reason I said you were trolling is because despite some fantastic play today from several players, you said nothing about the positive. You instead went after Koscielny, who had a rare off-night. It was actually Holding’s error that lead to the goal, but trolls are ones who can never see the positive and always highlight the negative. You fit that description right now.

  27. kelvin

    Am begining to miss Red, he was a proper troll, the king of trolls, maybe Joe and Stevie Wanker coud take a leaf from him. DICKHEADS

  28. Rambo Ramsey

    I can’t believe Pedro banned RT and but allows this chap a free reign.

    For the last time, stop addressing me, you man child! I have zero interest to give you the attention you seek.

  29. gonsterous


    The thing with red was he had facts to back his argurment up. These days to be a troll you just name call someone !!

  30. Joe

    You daft cunt. Not talking about PSG am I. Or ludo. Ludo held us until the 83rd minute and deserved something from
    That game

    Pull your head in if you think we needed Ozil and Sanchez.

  31. Alexanderhenry

    The Godfather

    Well said.
    Both PSG and arsenal knew nothing was settled for certain, so both managers played strong sides. Quite rightly.
    Luckily for us, PSG managed to cock it up.

    This has infuriated some of the WOBs on here which I find extremely funny.

  32. Goonereris

    Good job, lads. Credit to Wenger for believing; gamble paid off. End of. The rest is just talk.

    Ozil had a record to burst; but the manager has taken charge and hauled him off, anyway. The good players hate being rested and it takes a wizened old head to manage those emotions.

  33. Thank you and goodnight

    Didn’t see the game but good win. Happy with the result……What’s the betting we still pull out bayern Munich in the draw 😀

  34. Joe


    Thought the point of the CL was to play against the best teams. If you just want to play easy teams why not just play the Europe

  35. grooveydaddy

    I kinda want Sevilla next round.

    Not an easy draw by any means, but Sanchez up against his NT manager and the return of Nasri would be an interesting back story.

  36. Alexanderhenry


    Absolutely. Wenger got it right this evening.

    You would hope even the most hardened anti wengerite would have the sense and good grace to admit that and give him at least some credit…but no.

    It’s truly pathetic.

  37. Southernpeople

    I don’t understand how some people find something to moan about in nights like this!!
    This arsenal team is fantastic and great to watch when in form. Now we need a run of winning games.

  38. BacaryisGod


    Well said.

    As for Ozil being mad at getting subbed, just watch from 2.20 in this video. That’s all you need to know!

  39. steve

    Doesn’t matter what team Arsenal gets drawn against. They will still get knocked out. Look at Monaco. The Akbs were celebrating the QF early lolololol.

  40. Dissenter

    Have to give the day to Wenger. His instincts were 100% proven right.

    The old bastard geezer got it right today and proved us armchair “experts” wrong.

  41. Wallace

    if we get Munich or Real we truly are cursed in this competition. any of the others and we can’t complain.

    excellent display of squad depth tonight.

  42. vicky

    Yes, credit where it’s due. Most of us including me would have slated Wenger if we couldn’t take advantage of PSG dropping points. The eternal optimist that Wenger is didn’t loose hope and did his part of the job.

  43. Alexanderhenry


    Yes, Red was something of an artiste. He could be quite creative and ingenious with his negativity. If we beat barcelona 10-0 in a champions league final he could find a way to put a negative spin on it.

    I actually give him more credit than our current trolls because he admitted to me on several occasions that he wanted arsenal to lose and would be happy if arsenal got relegated provided it meant wenger leaving.
    At least he was honest- as well as being pretty nutty.

  44. Marko

    Looks like we got our mojo back. Long may it continue. Also whatever it takes make sure Alexis signs on. He’s the definition of indispensable. If it means selling Ramsey and bringing in Charles Aranguiz so be it

  45. BacaryisGod

    It’s better to top the group but not so obvious after Bayern got upset by Rostov and ended 2nd.

    Right now, it’s looking like the following choices in the last 16: (Benfica, Bayern Munich, Bayer Leverkusen, Porto, Sevilla and probably Dortmund).

    Out of those 6, we would be favourites in 3 of them, 50-50 in 2 of them and underdogs vs Bayern.

    Now look what PSG will have:

    Barca, Napoli, Real Madrid (probably), Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Leicester.

    If Arsenal had finished 2nd, we would have had to play
    Barca, Napoli, Real Madrid (probably), Atletico Madrid or Juventus. Brutal matchups.

  46. grooveydaddy

    leicester have the same potential draws as us, except they’ll have psg in their pit instead of Porto

    city can’t draw us, barca, or Leicester – leaving them with atletico, real/dortmund, napoli, Juve, or Monaco