Happy anniversary Mr Wenger | Tantalising contract negotiations | Midfield car crash unfolding

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Too early for Jaeger?

Too early for Jaeger?

Hull City are next up, but firstly, we must congratulate Arsene Wenger on his 20th Arsenal anniversary. I don’t want to labour on it for too long, but it’s quite an achievement. He’s seen off many great names, Owen Coyle, Jose Mourinho twice as well as Sir Alex Ferguson.

You can’t argue with that longevity. When he started I was 12 experimenting with hair gel and copper dial up internet porn. Remember that? Spending many hours working out how to clear those history folders… then finding the old mans computer stash. Bad times. I digress.

Well, you could poke holes in the last decade, you could say that his longevity has owed a lot to indebtedness of an owner who loves the consistency of top four. The stale collapse of his tenure isn’t a sight to behold, I’m not clapping him teary eyed wondering how time passed so quickly, I’m bored, wishing away his final season.

It’s a shame that as a fan, I can’t be excited about his AFC birthday, because for me, he’s outstayed his welcome.

But look, we’re stuck with him this season. We just have to hope he pulls a rabbit out the hat again this year… and by that, I mean keep us kicking hard to stay in the top four.

Interestingly, Diego Simeone has taken a two year reduction in his Atletico Madrid contract. He’s signed a reduction. Yeah, I know, weird… even weirder it made me twitch like that 12 year old boy 20 years ago firing up his Intel Pentium 1 desktop when the parents left to go to Tesco.

So Diego’s deal expires at the end of next season. Why would you do such a thing? Madness. A tantalising one. If the club are serious about competing next year, and Wenger does finally decide to do one, you’d think it a pretty crazy notion we wouldn’t consider the Argentine, the best coach not in the Premier League. It’d also be crazy not to consider Allegri and Tuchel. Even Lucian Favre who was a bit unfairly fired from Gladbach.

Anyway, the stars are aligning…

Back onto the Hull game… Wenger has pushed us into CRYING OUT FOR GIROUD. He’s given us Alexis Sanchez up top, which hasn’t really panned out. He’s given us Perez who is very new, very green and likely has a future out wide. Now we’re all praying Giroud lands a start, because at least he’s an outlet.

It’ll be interesting to see what Wenger does tomorrow. Will he stick with Coq and Santi? Likely, when people kick out at his decisions that fail to deliver the goods, it’s customary for him to dig his heels in, in an attempt to make us see the light. He’s also come out with a new idea to quell us thinking his current favoured CM pairing not weird and stupid… and that’s the notion that Xhaka is actually a ball playing DM.

‘I personally prefer him as a box-to-box player, because he has the engine, he has the power, he has the long pass, he likes to come deep and distribute the game’

I am all for experimentation, I really am. But we have an actual issue with Coquelin not being very smart tactically / rubbish on the ball. Which was solved by Xhaka. Now Wenger is pushing the solution further up the pitch, in direct competition with Aaron Ramsey, who now is what? A really good sub? Same happened with Jack. He wanted to play in the deeplying playmaker, a position he was owning for England, but Wenger insisted he was a 10, then shunted him out on loan?

Sell someone if your midfield is so fucking confused.

Jeez, I guess I’m just looking at the decisions Wenger has made with his squad this year… and, well, I don’t know… I’m baffled. Santi taking a starring role when his legs have gone? Coquelin usurping two better centre midfielders? Joel Campbell and Jack Wilshere sent out on loan? Gnabry sold £4.3m? Very strange decisions.

But hey, Wenger is a strange manager.

So, let’s see what happens against Hull. We need to start racking up the points because City are on a lovely run with a manager who sees the game through the lens of the future. It’s always risky to put so much promise on a team and its early form, but this is Pep, not, errr… Claudio Ranieri?

Anyway, see you tomorrow. x

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  1. champagne charlie

    Jeff

    Another point missed ay jeff, patting myself on the back for what exactly? No mate, just confirming your juvenile Arsenal jibe from the other day as exactly that, despite your protestations that it was statistically relevant and served as an indicator of the season ahead.

  2. Sam

    Our Season just started
    welcome to Arsenal King Xhaka
    Sanchez n Walcott starting to click
    No Giroud, Chamberlain n Ramsey
    No rushing Lucas Perez

    We are stronger than Last season

  3. Carts

    Flakey stream so wasn’t able to fully assess our performance but from what I saw, we were good for 3 points.

    Strange that Sanchez took the penalty over Santi. Clearly went looking for that hat trick early on.

    What I will say is that I don’t think Cow and Santi is out best combo at the base. Times in the first half Hull were cutting through us and the gaps which appeared were slightly concerning.

  4. Jeff

    Charlie,

    You’re being a child that’s all. The only reason you would bring it up is because it must have struck a vein and you haven’t found the grace to get over it. You still haven’t and you probably won’t for a while. I stated the stats, you chose to take it as a jibe and then decided to start a war. That tells me you have issues. Good luck resolving them.

  5. Sam

    Redbutt ignoring that idiot Livermore stopped us from going 2 nil up with his stupid hand

    Hull could have been 2 bill down with 11 men makes no foking difference.

    We won

  6. TallestTiz

    Iwobi must be reading Le-grove

    I called him out yesterday @ Alex Black Boots (looks more loke cover shoes) Iwobi.

    Today, he changed to orange boots.

    Alex, just incase you there, nnah mehn, na play I play o…lol

  7. Alexanderhenry

    What a strange place this is.

    Arsenal win 4-1 away and about half of you are livid about it, or droning on about how good city are.

    For those of you who have forgotten, when arsenal win, which means kicking the round , white, bouncy thing into the net more times than the other team, this a good thing not a bad thing. As arsenal fans you’re supposed be happy about this. If you are not, then go away and support a different team.

    On man city, they’re good, very good in fact. They have the most expensive squad in the league and one of the best managers in the world, so no surprises there. They are favourites. No surprises there either.
    However, we are also good and there’s a very long way to go.. This team will continue to improve, and will I think challenge this season.

  8. Bishop

    DivineSherlockSeptember 17, 2016    16:13:59
    I dont understand the Ozil hate . There is no proper CF in the starting line up , how is he supposed to create chances ?? Sanchez regularly dropped down to midfield , didn’t anyone notice that?

    Hey,

    No one hates Ozil. You need to call a spade a spade.
    The league is stronger now and it’s harder compared to when he arrived so he needs to step up.
    We complain about Sanchez attimes too but he shows consistency. Even today wasn’t his best but still got 2 goals.Rescued the point at PSG.

  9. champagne charlie

    Jeff

    Nice change of tact, but it doesn’t wash. You made a jibe about our potency vs Aguero’s goal tally and the very next game we score 4 to show up your “stats” as being arbitrary – as was said to you at the time by several people.

    Nothing about getting over it or striking a chord, just letting reality dictate matters and reminding you of the asinine point you made just a day or so ago. Make stupid assertions and you’re vulnerable to people challenging you on them, end of story.

    Welcome to the internet.

  10. STV

    Great win. These should be our routine.

    Xhaka great goal. Wonder how long it will take for that to be coached out of him. Ask Elneny. You need to be ‘Intelligent with shooting’ line is coming.

    Oh Chech! cough to Chelsea..

  11. Jeff

    Yes Alex, we are also good as you say but the important thing is, what are we good for? Are we good for the PL or the CL? No. So nothing new this season and you will see it unfold in the same way we are all familiar come February. We will win many games, just like we won against Hull so no surprises there. But will we win enough? Will we win the big ones? Will be challenge City and the others all vying for top four? Those are the questions you should be asking.

  12. DivineSherlock

    Alexander

    The one who shouts loudest is usually the wrong one . Ignore the haters , Arsenal are winning which does not suit their agenda and narrative that we are shit. Don’t bother correcting them . Enjoy the win.

  13. champagne charlie

    alexhenry

    “This team will continue to improve, and will I think challenge this season.”

    Uhm City have won all 5 of their games this year, we won’t be challenging because of this, they have basically won the league already. Roll on Next season.

  14. steve

    Interesting Arsenal have won three straight games in the league. Notice how it have coincided with playing shit teams. Flat track bullies.

  15. Alexanderhenry

    Sam

    ‘Our Season just started
    welcome to Arsenal King Xhaka
    Sanchez n Walcott starting to click
    No Giroud, Chamberlain n Ramsey
    No rushing Lucas Perez’.

    Agreed. We’ve got a great player in Xhaka, Sanchez is awesome and this season is walcott’s last chance to really prove himself in my opinion. Fingers crossed on Perez and Ramsay will feature.
    It depends on which Ramsay though, If he can find the form of a few seasons ago when everything he touched seemed to end up in the back of the net then he will be an asset.

  16. Jeff

    Charlie, you dimwit. If you thought you won last time (this is going back to Monday now) and you claim others also thought so, why are you bringing it up again today five days later? Is it because Arsenal won? What does that say about you and how you little brain works?

  17. DivineSherlock

    Bishop

    Ok , Ozil does not play at CF mate . His role is to create chances . If there is no one to play the ball to , who do you think he’ll play to ? Why do you think Xhaka took that shot ? Was there anyone ahead of him ?

  18. Ozrus

    Jeff,

    Your stat from yestetday (with a factual error) regarding Aguero vs Arsenal scoring record this season is NOT an INDICATOR of anything concrete. Most of your posts are fucking boring too.

    Joe,

    We won. Hahaha

  19. champagne charlie

    Jeff

    you’re an odd soul, this talk of me patting myself on the back and thinking i’ve won? It’s discourse regarding arsenal you pleb, you on here to win things? haha it’s a blog…

    Here’s the summary: You made a stupid assertion, I (and others) challenged it, when the very next game also made a mockery of your assertion I pointed it out and here you are spitting tacks.

  20. Batistuta

    Monreal needs to wake up and so does Bellerin, both have been very poor so far

    Santi is clearly the in form CAM at the club for me, he makes the attack tick most times

    Have to hand it to Coquelin, guy has stepped it up a notch,amazing what competition does to a squad

    Ozil needs to be dropped, im sorry the no striker to play with line is absolute bollocks cus its not like its the first season he’s been with us, at the moment we are almost a man down when he plays cus he does fuck all, needs to be dropped or spoken to,i mean even coquelin started attacks quicker than he did today

    Good game from Sanchez, good thing he’s finding the net, needs to be off the penalties though and back to his normal position

    Theo was bad for me, we need to give Perez more game time even if its from the wings

    Iwobi was man of the match, so good for someone so young BUT defensively he’s shit and likes to come infield more often than not leaving Monreal exposed

  21. Jeff

    Ozrus,

    You are a sworn AKB, brainwashed to hate anyone who says anything against your lord and master. I have seen some of your posts and they are all meant to rile and contradict the bleeding obvious. That makes you a brainless twat with little or no understanding of anything other than Wenger, the leader of the AKB religion. That is why most people ignore you. And the stat wasn’t from yesterday, it was from Monday. Twat.

  22. DaleDaGooner

    Divine, to be fair, How many times has Ozil been in Xhaka’s position and just passes back or looks for someone to take the ball off him? He has to add more for us. German fans call him out every time. Ballack called him out and even Mertesacker spoke to him about his attitude. He needs to own this team, assists, goals, defensive dues and runs. He’s not just an assisting player. His goal on Sanchez’s cross earlier, we need more of it. He strops around too much

  23. Bishop

    Let’s wait to read the post tomorrow how COQ was / is a problem and limited.

    He looks the one even undropable now with th sort of performance he had today.

  24. Jeff

    Charlie,

    Again I ask you? What sort of person brings up a simple stat I put up 5 days ago that you mistook for a jibe straight after an Arsenal win? What sort of person does that make you? Go into a quiet room and meditate on it. It will do you good.

  25. Batistuta

    Sam

    why does Perez need to be brought in slowly when the likes of Slimani are already banging them in

    Its either he’s not good enough or the manager doesn’t fancy him though trying to understand Wenger is asking for a migraine

  26. Alexanderhenry

    Jeff

    ‘But will we win enough? Will we win the big ones? Will be challenge City and the others all vying for top four? Those are the questions you should be asking.’

    We’ll find out soon enough. That’s what being a football fan is about.
    Our squad is better than last season, so I am cautiously optimistic.

  27. Batistuta

    Rambo

    Wilshere was ordinary, lost the ball meaninglessly, gave away the foul for their first goal yea its his first appearance and all but nothing impressive

  28. Redtruth

    Coquelin and Ospina thd two players i rate are doing me proud.
    Coquelin is making Arsenal tick albeit against a shit Hull but nevertheless he is head and shoulders above his team mates in this moment in time..

  29. DaleDaGooner

    Bishop. Looking forward to the Coq write up tomorrow. Thank fuck Ox was finally dropped! And Ramsey not fit. I am still wondering what Ramsey’s role will look like when fit. Is Cazorla gonna be benched? Xhaka? Coq? Elneny already gets benched…

  30. champagne charlie

    “And the stat wasn’t from yesterday, it was from Monday. Twat.”

    “Jeff September 15, 2016 15.42.11
    Aguero 9 goals in 5 games
    Arsenal FC 8 goals in 5 games”

    Was it Jeff….. Was it really…

  31. Jeff

    Alex,

    “Cautiously optimistic” at the start of the season is fair enough but I think inwardly you know how it’s going to end don’t you?

  32. Sam

    Only Idiots think Coquelin is limited

    This is a footballer who can play left back, right back CB even as a winger

    Fan with brain will call him our most talented footballer

    Fickle cunts think he’s limited
    Lollllllllllllll

  33. Rambo Ramsey

    *Again I ask you? What sort of person brings up a simple stat I put up 5 days ago that you mistook for a jibe straight after an Arsenal win?”

    Jeff, how the heck is that even possible? Aguero scored three of his 9 goals(which you kept repeating a lot) on Wednesday night, three days ago!

    You get caught lying or misconstruing stuff so many times, have you no shame?

  34. Bishop

    Divine

    I am not having Ozils conversation cos I hate him or don’t rate him.
    Am looking at his performance. No top CAM plays this with the sort of competition in teams now.

    OK fine if I agree there is no striker to pass to as u said..Does that warrant strolling around doing 1-2s, back passes and co.

    He should then contribute to defending then since he has no KPI upfront since there is no striker as you claim o simply sit on the bench.

    If there is no striker to pass to, then he simply is useless then as we have been saying as he doesn’t contribute then.

  35. Bishop

    Opta: Kevin De Bruyne has had a hand in 34 goals in his 48 appearances for Manchester City in all competitions (18 goals & 16 assists)

    Mourinho the fraud said he isn’t good enough.

  36. Batistuta

    Rambo lols you know thats not far away but i want him to stay fit though and prove me wrong that he aint shit

    Sam

    That’s some weird logic, if he’s good enough he’s good enough especially as his club have been starting games without a recognized striker for weeks now

  37. Alexanderhenry

    Jeff

    No, I don’t.
    If I wanted to know how everything turns out, I wouldn’t watch real football and just play FIFA on the easiest level all day.

    I understand the skepticism, but what baffles me is the way that some posters on here go out of their way to downplay anything positive about arsenal.
    It’s weird.
    If we win, we’re lucky or not as good as city. etc etc.

    Sometimes it’s like being in a room full of victor meldrews.

  38. Bishop

    BatistutaSeptember 17, 2016    16:49:26
    RamboWilshere was ordinary, lost the ball meaninglessly, gave away the foul for their first goal yea its his first appearance and all but nothing impressive

    See, Wilshere is even the best of the bad bunch for me.

    Let players like OX go to other smaller clubs..he will be benched forever.Only Wenger the strange one sticks to shit and even forces it down out throats.

    Howe won’t keep Wilshere in his starting line up if he doesn’t contribute anything meaningful.

  39. karim

    Monaco’s in fine form too, 7 wins on the trot, including Villarreal, PSG and Spuds.
    3/0 today, Falcao even scored ( from the spot ).

    Leonardo Jardim definitely is a very good coach, has managed to keep them up there despite losing 70 % of his first teamers last year.
    Did very well in Portugal too.

  40. gonsterous

    I’m glad we won.. I want arsenal in full song when they come to play Basel here in Der schweiz. Will be my first time watching the arsenal ( which is a disgrace cause I’ve been living in Europe for the last 5 years )=. Want them to smash Basel who annoyingly are the Swiss champions !!

  41. Jeff

    Rambo/Charlie,

    Yes you’re right about the date. I put that stat up first on Thursday and here is the actual link to it.

    http://le-grove.co.uk/2016/09/14/psg-1-1-arsenal-by-the-skin-of-our-teeth/comment-page-3/#comment-2032282

    I don’t know why I thought I made it on Monday, a genuine mistake on my part for which I apologise. But the point was that we had the big debate about it then and it ended. To bring it up again on a Saturday straight after an Arsenal win is a bit strange don’t you think? I’m still waiting for an answer from Charlie?

  42. champagne charlie

    Jeff

    See you later then jeff, quick disappearance the second you were shown up for casually lying haha some fans are too funny

  43. Batistuta

    Bishop

    I hear you man, ox is just a god awful footballer and yea don’t think wilshere will be starting a lot of games over there if he plays like he did today, they are in a season long relegation fight and won’t have the luxury of playing a man down every game

  44. champagne charlie

    Jeff

    Jesus christ, I couldn’t answer you any more plainly than I already have.

    As said above:

    “Here’s the summary: You made a stupid assertion, I (and others) challenged it, when the very next game also made a mockery of your assertion I pointed it out and here you are spitting tacks.”

  45. Shaun Wilson

    Early observations : It’s city’s title to lose. Liverpool will make top 4 at least . Spurs look capable of making top 4. Everton? The only ray of hope for Wenger to perpetuate his fourth place streak is if either or both of Mourinho’s or conte’s teams implode. My predication for a lack lustre, tippy tippy to nowhere Aresenal? I think we will be 7th at the end of the season and Wenger will renew his contract for another 2 seasons.

  46. Mysticleaves

    ” Does anyone talk to Monreal about the amount of space
    he affords wingers or fullbacks to cross?? Every fucking
    time he never gets close or close up the space and allows
    a cross”

    funny enough closing down crossers is one of Gibbs specialties. he does it so well. time to give Montreal a rest?

  47. champagne charlie

    “My predication for a lack lustre, tippy tippy to nowhere Aresenal? I think we will be 7th at the end of the season and Wenger will renew his contract for another 2 seasons.”

    Don’t recall seeing you post before…. Think my mind is made as per your input.

  48. gunnergetyou

    “Guess that’s Sanchez up top next week against Chelsea then”

    Anyone but Giroud.

    Still have no idea about Perez but Slimani looks like a good signing for Leicester.

    Another missed opportunity from Wenger.

  49. Batistuta

    Shaun

    Wishful thinking there mate, we are too good not to make the top four and the other teams you mentioned are just as inconsistent if not worse than Arsenal,still early days though

  50. champagne charlie

    Slimani another missed opportunity? haha 1 game into his time at Leicester…

    Cannot make up some of the nonsense on here

  51. DivineSherlock

    Bishop and Dale

    Calling for him to drop is a bit over the top to be honest . Lets wait and see how he plays against Chelsea .

  52. Batistuta

    gunnergetyou

    Anyone but Giroud yea but you know chelsea won’t gift Sanchez the kinda space he was awarded today, certain games we are better off with Giroud up top as shown at PSG

  53. Jeff

    Charlie,

    This is where dimwittism shines through bright and clear. How can the next game or any other game change the stat when the number of games were stated? What was my assertion? All I said was that it indicated our form as well as Aguero’s. It was YOU who made the assertion that it was somehow a “jibe”. Will you bring this up after every game we play now? You are a child, a sorry little child with major issues.

  54. Jeff

    Ozrus,

    If I’m pointless, why are you answering my posts? Why are you getting involved? Could it be that you just want to have a little go after the pent up negative emotion of starting the season badly? A little steam you want to let off because and wanted to piggy back with Charlie? You have no more integrity than a twig.

  55. Bishop

    DivineSherlockSeptember 17, 2016    17:15:46
    Bishop and Dale Calling for him to drop is a bit over the top to be honest . Lets wait and see how he plays against Chelsea .

    It’s a step up or be dropped campaign for me. Although Wenger won’t and doesn’t have balls. Hes even scared to sub him.

    But the truth is under a manager like Klopp, Conte with his performances so far. He would be sulking his fingers on the bench.

    What I want from him is to STEP UP and be counted and not living on reputation. That’s exactly what keeps Wenger at his job for so long.

  56. Alexanderhenry

    Gonsterous

    ‘I’m glad we won.. I want arsenal in full song when they come to play Basel here in Der schweiz. Will be my first time watching the arsenal ( which is a disgrace cause I’ve been living in Europe for the last 5 years )=. Want them to smash Basel who annoyingly are the Swiss champions !!’

    Good post. I like your attitude

    You pass the arsenal fan test.

  57. karim

    Gonsterous

    Wish I went but nah, watched it on the telly.
    Basel’s technically closer to my place than Paris actually.

    Last time I saw Arsenal live was in 2004 mate : (

  58. Joe

    You pass the arsenal fan test.

    1) who gives you the right to judge

    2) you don’t pass it yourself ,so work on your own shit before you jusdge others

  59. Sam

    Batistuta

    You didn’t notice Xhaka n Holding also were benched
    Does that mean they aren’t good enough?
    Perez will play stop looking for negative assumptions

  60. Alexanderhenry

    Shaun Wilson

    ‘Early observations : It’s city’s title to lose. Liverpool will make top 4 at least . Spurs look capable of making top 4. Everton? The only ray of hope for Wenger to perpetuate his fourth place streak is if either or both of Mourinho’s or conte’s teams implode. My predication for a lack lustre, tippy tippy to nowhere Aresenal? I think we will be 7th at the end of the season and Wenger will renew his contract for another 2 seasons.’

    After five games that is your prediction, is it?

    You fail the Arsenal fan test

  61. Alexanderhenry

    Redruth

    ‘gonsterous You’ve never been to a game and you have the cheek to lecture me a seasoned fan’

    Yes, he does and quite rightly

    You fail the Arsenal fan test….. unsurprisingly.

  62. gonsterous

    Red truth

    I don’t need to go to a single game to lecture a 50 year old who sits in front of a computer hoping everyone takes notice of him !! If I was born in England I would have the same bragging rights !!

  63. gonsterous

    Karim

    Too bad mate, you are one of the few posters I really like, if you happen to come to Basel I’ll buy you a beer 🙂

  64. Alexanderhenry

    Gonsterous

    That’s fair enough, but you can still enjoy an arsenal win and give credit where it’s due and I’m sure you still want arsenal to succeed.

  65. DivineSherlock

    Bishop

    I think a player like Ozil deserves more chances . He’s World Class , had the most number of assist last season . No manager in the world would drop him yet .

  66. gonsterous

    Alex Henry

    Supporting your team during a game.. I thought that’s a fans job.. you want to moan and be a pundit ?? Do it after the game !!

  67. karim

    Thanx my friend !

    It will be a pleasure, I like Basel, that’s where I used to buy my weed when I was a student back in the days.
    Very nice city.

    Hop Suisse !

  68. Shaun Wilson

    @ Alexanderhenry
    It’s not merely five games unfortunately, is it? At least eight seasons is a more accurate summation!

  69. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Your Comment Here

    Red

    Not saying he wernt but he lead way for others to copy Elvis, an make their mark.
    Plus he was the first to write his own best selling album, even Elvis didn’t do that in those days.
    I ain’t a fan of either just got sucked in to watching a documentary last night…

  70. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Your Comment Here

    What a cunt Wenger is

    Started carzola an coq again

    Three games in 7 days from a fellow not long back off injury who is 32 next birthday !

    And he wouldn’t buy Ashley Williams for 10 m two years ago …

    Just go please Wenger …

  71. kingHenry

    Sam, you’re really the dumbest person on here by far, and that says a lot about you considering how many stupid fuckers we have here.

    Before we signed him, you were blabbing about how Xhaka was a waste of money dreamt up by the WOB’s and how Toral is a better player and we didn’t need the “Granny Shaka”.
    Now, you’re using him as a reason why we will contend this season.

    Flip flopping cunt

  72. Sam

    If Walcott n Sanchez click together we won’t miss the big number 9 upfront
    That’s why I am happy for Theo n hopefully he keeps working hard