Jack losing the #10 shirt. Where does he fit in the future?

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Ughh, international football, particularly the qualifiers, are beyond boring. I’m currently watching Denmark vs Armenia, because I can’t find a good stream for Big Sam’s new and rejuvenated England team that is based on merit unless your name is Joe Hart or Wayne Rooney.

Apologies for being loose for the last few days, sometimes life things get in the way… plus, it’s international week. Not much to report on anyway.

Great turn out for the Arsenal Legends game yesterday. My family purchased an executive box for the game and insisted on plastering images on their social all day, just to really make it feel extra average being stuck in America away from all the beautiful football.

I didn’t catch the game, but the general purring online and the massive turnout seemed to indicate it was a day to remember. Almost one tinged with a bit of sadness… you’d not be able to run the same game in 12 years time with this current crop. You’d have about 50 people turn out.

Gotta say, big thumbs up to the club for raising all that cash for the Kids in war zones. Real classy. A part of the being an Arsenal supporter that makes me prouder than anything. Bravo.

Interestingly, Arsene Wenger was booed by a section of the crowd. Can’t work out whether that’s the same as Bacary Sagna getting booed in Norway, or whether it was home fans venting on our shoddy summer.

For me, the summer is over now, whatever you want to say about the horror show it was, it’s done, we did some business, we strengthened to the tune of £100m… it’s time to #ShutUpAndSupportTheLads. We know how valuable the home support can be and we don’t want Wenger having someone to blame outside himself and hair pills come what May. So let’s nip the negativity in the bud and cheer like the secret sycophants we were at the end of the season.

What, you still can’t muster some love, ok, watch Arsene do some #BrandedContent

It’s so funny watching people clap like an overly trained seal to stuff like this.

‘Did you see him? Honestly, PETE DID YOU SEE HIM?’

‘I did yes’

‘It’s like, I dunno, he can have a full blown conversatation and things?’

‘He can’

‘AMAZING’

Yes, yes. It is amazing to listen to Wenger answer questions like a human being. I refer back to the Janan Ganesh tweet the other week, Wenger is fast replacing Stephen Fry as the stupid person’s intellectual.

News hit the wires that Ozil wants Jack’s number 10 shirt.

“It has become free and I will definitely have it,”

“I did a few years ago have this number [with Germany], but Lukas Podolski wanted it. He had more matches than I did. Now I have access.

“Of course I’ve previously given those in charge [at Arsenal] a signal. The number is right for me and my position as playmaker.

Feels like a cheeky ask. But then you say to yourself, why is it a cheeky ask? Because Jack is from London? Because he plays for England sometimes? Realistically, you have to say Jack should be giving that up for the man who is never going to deputise for the him outside a terrible injury. Harsh, but fair. You live in a meritocracy in sport and at the moment, there’s only one name who deserves that number 10 based on playing and off pitch behaviour.

Part of me really does wonder if it’s curtains for Jack. He’s surplus whichever way you look at the situation. I have my doubts he’s good enough for a 10 role. I have my doubts he’ll displace Xhaka anytime soon. My big doubt, is whether he’ll ever be fit enough to be anything more than an Abou Diaby like enigma. If we can shift him on for £40m, would you say no?

Hopefully I’ll be proved wrong there. All down to him really.

One player who felt the brunt of the broken meritocracy was Joel Campbell, he said he deserved more at Arsenal, which is totally true. To move him on instead of Ox or Theo was a pretty bold decision from Wenger. The 24 year old rocked it in his debut for Sporting, showing off his power and fancy footwork. Never going to be a world beater, but certainly a player with courage to show up when you need him.

Finally, before I leave, just to make you feel good about your standard life… Gareth Bale is being offered e465,000 p/w to stay on a Madrid. For a boy who had to go back to Wales at the weekends because he was home sick, that’s not bad. That is many IWC watches.

Meanwhile, I’m sitting in my pants eating 3 week old Cheetos.

On that note, have a bloody good day!

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204 Responses to “Jack losing the #10 shirt. Where does he fit in the future?”

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  1. STV

    Ozil shouldn’t have to ask for his no. 10. I wonder what was Wenger thinking he he gave No.11 while Wilshere was still wearing the valued jersey!

    Chances are he’ll reserve that no
    for Jack who’ll be coming back than giving it to Ozil so he had to ask.

    Ozil should say he will not renew his contract if he doesn’t get it now. That’s the way to deal with Wenger

    (although I will not put it beyond the possibility that Wenger refuses and sell Ozil)

  2. jasongms

    “Bullshit ..Germany have dominated for decades without players playing in foreign leagues same with Brazil.
    The truth is England are shit at football..”

    agreed !! not to mention nearly all of the Italian sides…

    I wouldn’t say they are particularly shit, they just don’t get the required level of tactical instruction/ training at an early age that most successful footballing countries take for granted. It’s an endemic cultural problem, where trickery ie stopovers etc are admonished as showy’ and a crunching tackle is lauded as a sign of strength and endeavor. Until that inherent cultural ethos changes, the type of player will always be technically weak. Somehow they need to find the right balance the way the germans did . Because there’s no doubt some of the kids I have seen have real talent, it’s just a shame that it’s not appreciated and encouraged as it is in say Spain or France.

  3. STV

    “..and a crunching tackle is lauded as a sign of strength and endeavor”

    ha ha so true. Thr English have wrong idea of ‘playing with character’. Just ask pulis or the current manager!

  4. China

    From a managerial perspective Capello is the only top manager we’ve tried and he still failed

    Who honestly thought woy, mclaren, and fat Sam etc were going to bring us glory honestly

  5. China

    Last year was not our most successful year for a while. We didn’t win anything and we got a lower points tally than both of the previous two seasons

    That makes it worse than both the previous two seasons by default

  6. Samesong

    People slate Welbeck but his energy levels for Arenal and England at times have been insane.
    He may miss 100 chances but he is a player i enjoy watching.

  7. Emiratesstroller

    Watching yesterday’s England team play I would be hard pressed to select any
    of them for Arsenal’s starting X1.

    Frankly even Kane a player I rated highly last season has looked distinctly mediocre over the summer and the start of this season.

    It poses some very serious questions about the talent base and development of
    young Home Grown talent in this country.

    Arsenal has attempted in recent seasons to build a British Core at the club, but
    apart from perhaps Ramsey none look remotely close to automatic starters in
    our first team.

    Wilshire perhaps the most gifted of these players should be an automatic starter for England particularly when you see the calibre of football played
    yesterday. Yet even he is now on a downward spiral and forced to play at
    Bournemouth in the lower reaches of EPL.

    The reality is that whilst the Premier League is prospering and attracts mega
    buck sponsorship the pool of home grown talent is in sharp decline particularly when compared with what is going on in other sports where British sportsmen are prospering and often earn a fraction of our overpaid footballers.

    Cricket and Rugby are most definitely on an upward spiral and we know that
    Britain is top of the pile in sports like Cycling and Rowing. So the question you
    need to ask is why our home grown footballers are so mediocre.

    Frankly I don’t think that it is down to a lack of talent but rather poor lifestyle
    and priorities. In most other sports today the athlete has total focus on his/her
    goal, which is to win a Championship or a medal in the Olympics. Most are likely to earn peanuts when compared to footballers.

    When you look at footballers like Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain they have
    been awarded a silver spoon from early age and a fat pay cheque + expensive
    cars and all the other trappings of luxury. There has been absolutely no incentive for these youngsters to develop their craft. Walcott has spent ten years at
    Arsenal and achieved what?

  8. peanuts&monkeys

    but for Walcott, England could have won 2 – 0.

    Adam Lallana, Kane, Rashford and Dele Alli are the English stars to watch for. England needs to get a manager of AVB’s or Benitez’s callibre to get the best out of these ultra-talented stars.

    All in all, Lallana’s goal was a treat.

  9. Grinko

    England need to change their whole mentality when it comes to international football , for example listen to all the idiot pundits and so called experts who continually don’t rate ozil and prefer headless chickens running around 100 miles an hour but achieving nothing . You get the impression of them if ozil was English they wouldn’t pick him for the England side yet they just can’t see how ironic it is he wouldn’t get in a mediocre side who’s lucky to get out of a group stage yet walks into the world champions side . Very dated mentality in England still picking 80’s style footballers

  10. Louis Almeida

    “England need to change their whole mentality when it comes to international football , for example listen to all the idiot pundits and so called experts who continually don’t rate ozil and prefer headless chickens running around 100 miles an hour but achieving nothing . You get the impression of them if ozil was English they wouldn’t pick him for the England side yet they just can’t see how ironic it is he wouldn’t get in a mediocre side who’s lucky to get out of a group stage yet walks into the world champions side . Very dated mentality in England still picking 80’s style footballers”

    Good point Grinko, I agree wholeheartedly! I’m staggered, truly staggered that Sam Allardyce is England manager. I think he’s terrible.

  11. Samesong

    Nobody would be daft enough to part with £40m for Wilshere

    How much did Sterling cost again?

    Thats chump change for city, chelsea and United.

  12. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    Can’t see City, Chelsea or United going for Wilshere. Not when they can buy any talent in the universe.

  13. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    Agree that Allardyce is a terrible manager but feel that his no nonsense attitude is what the current crop of pampered England internationals need – especially as, like Arsenal, there is no natural leader on the pitch. Where have all the Butchers, Adams and Terrys gone? Somebody who can raise the team when the chips are down – and I’m not talking about a fist waving Flamini type. I’m talking a real leader of men.

  14. Emiratesstroller

    The problem is not confined to the England Team or its management.

    I have been involved in running Community Sport Programmes for many years, but not in football. Most sports apart from football have an entirely different ethos where youngsters aspire if they have talent to become international sports people or reach the pinnacle of their sport which is the Olympics.

    Very few sports people outside football become rich and certainly not in their
    formative years. I doubt that a top class rugby or cricket player earns in his
    entire career what most average EPL footballers are earning in a year.

    Indeed I find it fairly obscene to see just how pampered our so-called apprentice professionals at the major clubs are.

    Some might claim that this criticism is jealousy, but the reality is that in most
    other sports talent is a fraction of what is needed to become a top class athlete.
    It requires years of hard work for little financial reward to reach the top.

    In football you see footballers like Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain who have
    achieved very little, but are rewarded with fat contracts in their teens followed
    by luxuries such as expensive cars, watches and even a multi million pound property.

    Frankly there is little or no incentive to reach the top of the game. Hunger is
    missing and I suspect genuine work ethic as well.

    This may well explain why Leicester City won the EPL Title last year with footballers who in most cases had to struggle to reach the top.

    I think that it is also very clear that many of the most talented footballers on the planet have been far less pampered in the formative years of their career
    than is the case in England. Interestingly Gazidis made a similar assertion
    post Leicester’s win when he said that perhaps in future Arsenal should look
    in future at players from clubs in lower divisions. That was precisely what
    Liverpool used to do.

  15. Cesc Appeal

    Quite simply there is no balance to the England side, absolutely they are all overpaid, pampered saps compared to a lot of their international competitors, but a big problem is that (as Arsenal fans have experienced often) two successive managers now are picking players (or rather a particular player) over a team.

    England actually have a number of young players who are interesting prospects, Stones, Dier, Alli, Kane, Rashford, Shaw etc that most managers would like to work with, but they are being killed by the selection and poor management choices.

    Not that I’m saying we’d be world beaters otherwise, but we’d look a lot better, its amazing to me that only now are some journalists a highlighting Rooney in CAM is a problem for Kane, I said during the Euros, Rooney is not a CAM, he is too static and not intelligent enough, he just leaves an enormous gap behind Kane that leaves him isolated, the difference when Alli came on yesterday was telling.

  16. Grinko

    Park

    They supposedly had their leaders in terry and Gerrard and co , what did that win them ? They completely lack the understanding of the modern game in tactical nous and flair . When has England ever have a class 10 who could open up a defence . Have they ever entertained a bergkamp, ozil type player ? Have they ever existed in England ? Or because they don’t run around aimlessly would they even be entertained

  17. Samesong

    Can’t see City, Chelsea or United going for Wilshere. Not when they can buy any talent in the universe.

    Jack still remains a talent so that’s a bit of a dumb statement. Jack has played in the premier and knows it. There was small talk of Wilshere to city already. IF Jack has a good season and stays fit clubs will come in for him I guarantee that.

    And if Theo and Ox couldn’t learn anything from Henry then no Adams type is ever going to help them.

  18. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    Good point Grinko. I know Hoddle (a Bergkamp/Ozil type) was a spud but felt the England team should have been built around him.

  19. Samesong

    England actually have a number of young players who are interesting prospects, Stones, Dier, Alli, Kane, Rashford, Shaw etc that most managers would like to work with, but they are being killed by the selection and poor management choices.

    This!

    Rashford for me plays from the start, Kane is too robotic and predictable. Out of those players I only rate Rashford, Shaw and Dier. The rest are average.

  20. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    IF Jack has a good season and stays fit clubs will come in for him I guarantee that.
    _________________

    That’s a massive IF. Jack may still be a talent, but IMO, is never fit for long enough. When he is fit he spends half of his time rolling around on the floor or holding an ankle. His outstanding performances are few and far between. Not to mention his numerous personal exposés.

  21. Grinko

    Park
    True about hoddle but there lays the problem , they rather build the team around fist pumping kick up the arse terry and Gerrard types . Germany or Spain don’t seem to need these “characters” when they win and go deep into tournaments. Top to bottom in England they just don’t see it

  22. Samesong

    testicle

    I know this about the rolling about etc, fitness. But that’s not what you started with you said that no team would be daft to pay 40M for him. I disagreed. And IF he stays fit and has a decent season then he will get other teams attention that’s all.

    Jack is not a bad footballer and currently he is fit so let’s see what happens. I agree with you can’t see him staying fit but different club, different approach in handling Jack.

  23. Grinko

    In the current market if 30 mill isn’t enough to bag you Troy deeney then I’m sure you’d get 40 for a fit wilshere . Home grown , highly rated in football circles . We might not think he’s worth it but he would fetch it

  24. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    Wilshere will have an outstanding season for Bournemouth and England and then break his ankle in the last game of the season.

  25. Jamie

    I don’t get the ‘Wilshere for 40m’ chat.

    He’s probably worth about half that fee today, so in order to double his value, he needs to prove his fitness over a whole season at least.

    If he does that and plays consistently well in the middle of the park, magically turning himself into a 40m player during his loan spell, why would we sell him? If he breaks down for long periods of the season (likely), why would any ‘top’ club pay 40m for him? Talent is redundant without fitness.

    As it stands, no top club will fork out big money for a player with such a poor fitness record.

  26. Bishop

    Jack still remains a talent so that’s a bit of a dumb statement. Jack has played in the premier and knows it. There was small talk of Wilshere to city already. IF Jack has a good season and stays fit clubs will come in for him I guarantee that.

    What’s his stat in the premier league that he knows for the last 5seasons?

    If you think these clubs will just throw money anyhow at Arsenal for Wheelchair..u must be kidding

  27. Dream 10

    The Wilsh will have one year left on his deal in 2017. If he performs well, expect Liverpool, West Ham or Everton to bid 15m pounds for him. Otherwise, he’ll go on loan once more.
    Thinking AW is softening the blow of his permanent departure. His presence in the squad meant that the manager was never going to sign a quality CM. It took injuries/end of contract to Arteta, Flamini for AW to sign an upgrade. Hope we sign another CM be next summer.

  28. Dream10

    The Wilsh will have one year left on his deal in 2017. If he performs well, expect Liverpool, West Ham or Everton to bid 15m pounds for him. Otherwise, he’ll go on loan once more.
    Thinking AW is softening the blow of his permanent departure. His presence in the squad meant that the manager was never going to sign a quality CM. It took injuries/end of contract to Arteta, Flamini for AW to sign an upgrade. Hope we sign another CM be next summer.

  29. Boomergooner

    It’s funny to think that the homegrown rule may prove detrimental to English football. The requirement simply forces clubs to fight over what little talent there is and means that a Theo Walcott can earn 100k p/w for ticking a box when players of far greater consistency and/or ability are luck to earn half, especially if they play don’t come from a top league or play for a top 6 club. If you look down the England squad the wages at club level are absurd.

  30. Louis Almeida

    England still suffer from an identity crisis. Nobod even knows how they should play or what their style should look like. For me Wilshere is still the most talented English player but even he has his massive issues. I hope we don’t sell him but we could still get loads of money for him if we did. If Watford can reject £30m+ bids for Deeney and Ighalo, we could get a lot of money for Wilshere. English premium.

  31. Dream10

    Louis Almeida

    One of English football’s major issues is the lack of CMs who can pass the ball. Wilshere and Carrick are the two that stand out. Yesterday, Stones was stepping up into midfield and making Dier redundant

  32. STV

    Great point by Chris Sutton re Kane being Isolated by Rooney. It’s time for him to hang his boots.. Terrible as a midfielder.

    P.S those who idolize Rooney the midfielder deserves to play their trade on lower division or relegation bound teams. They set their bars too low for their position!

  33. Louis Almeida

    Dream10, yes I completely agree. There is no finesse, lack of build-up play in the midfield. Rooney should’ve been dropped years ago but all the coaches are too scared of him. Wilshere is the only one who can progress the play well through the first and second phase when fit. He’s a fantastic talent IMO. Xavi never stops eulogising over him. My main problems with Wilshere:

    1) He’s NEVER fit (biggest issue)
    2) I’m still not sure he knows what his best position is
    3) He’s too reliant on his dribbling

    His dribbling and acceleration is a fantastic asset but he defaults to it too much in my opinion. He should only use it when the short passing game with the rest of the team is not working. He sometimes tries to force the game too much which can then lead to overdribbling/him getting frustarted with himself. MY hope was that he would become a world class #8 like Modric who can pass but also use his low centre of gravity to beat the press and eliminate players to opemn up different angles. Wilshere tries the latter too much too soon and it’s why he can never control games like he should do. He has better physical prowress than someone like Santi but Cazorla plays with much more intelligence which is why he is still relevant at the age of 31.

  34. Wenker-wanger

    England are the worst watch of any football match. Id rather watch kids with jumpers for goalposts. Shockingly lame and disjointed attacking moves. Rooney topped off his so called england captains show with a pathetic dive. Just garbage.

  35. Bamford10

    I agree with Louis that Wilshere was/is a fantastic talent, but two important things: one, I think he is crocked and won’t ever move efficiently or effectively again; two, he only began over-dribbling after the media attention went to his head. Over-dribbling was not an issue in 2010-11.

    I wish Jack the best and would love to see him return to his best, but I don’t see it happening.

  36. Bamford10

    Joel Campbell says he thinks he deserved to play more. I probably agree with him, but this says more about the weakness of our wide options than about his quality. Decent player, but not good enough in the end, IMO.

  37. Rhys Jaggar

    Samesong

    You’re being a bit thick in your comments re Theo/Ox and learning from Henry.

    Walcott was clear in the press he firstly learned a lot from Henry and wanted to learn more. You need to ask when he was supposed to have learned from him. He was around at Arsenal for 1 year right at the start with Henry, then it is whenever Henry was allowed to take coaching by Wenger. Not very often, in other words. So if you wanted Walcott to learn from Henry, you had to tell Wenger to use Henry as a first team attacking coach….

    As for England, people should realise that there is a power struggle going on between Rooney and the younger generation. Rooney was playing like a prick to isolate Kane and the radio commentary immediately highlighted how Alli brought Kane into the game as soon as Rooney was off. Someone should ask whether Rooney is under instructions from Man Utd to destroy Kane so Rashford can replace him…….

  38. Louis Almeida

    I am interested to see Perez. He is a decent height (5″11) and is versatile as well as having very good pace. I hope, and we should, use him as striker. to give us a more expansive game.

  39. N5

    “Rooney is under instructions from Man Utd to destroy Kane so Rashford can replace him…….”

    Jagger don’t you ever remove your tin foil hat?

  40. S Asoa

    For me, the summer is over now, whatever you want to say about the horror show it was, it’s done, we did some business, we strengthened to the tune of £100m… it’s time to #ShutUpAndSupportTheLads.

    #ShutUpPedrodon’tGiveWengerHandleToStay

    Wenger Out .

    He’ll go only if fans make it impossible for him to stay. Then ,if there are are more worms watch them crawl out of the woodwork without Wenger con – protection

  41. Carts

    “Someone should ask whether Rooney is under instructions from Man Utd to destroy Kane so Rashford can replace him…….”

    Rhys your OBVIOUSLY an intelligent guy. I love a conspiracy fact… but you’re taking the piss here.

    I mean, what happens when Rashford is injured etc or do Utd expect him to be the all featuring forward??