Zero leverage in transfer market forcing an expensive mistake? | Striker transfer hits roadblock

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Man, it’s miserable being an Arsenal fan. What’s odd about the terrible starts to the season, is the aggressive messages you get post-Wenger collapse. Like I haven’t been calling these issues all summer. Like it’s a surprise.

I guess we all deal with football grief differently.

So what do we have today?

The news that Arsenal are now caught in a negotiation battle with Valencia for Mustafi. John Cross reckons they’re asking for £50m for their centre back. Guillaume Ballague doesn’t think the German is actually that good. Now we’re in a very awkward dick swinging situation. Do we go big and just buy him for the same price City paid for John Stones? Or should we just look elsewhere. Maybe to the Premier League. Fonte at Southampton would be a very solid stop gap and look, so would Jonny Evans.

Spunking out £50m for Mustafi would be too far, even for the starving man in a dessert looking for a tasty cracker. But again, all those fans praising Wenger for his late summer raids… look at what happens. We’ve forfeited 5 points already and we’re now firmly on the back foot in terms of negotiations EVERY player. There is really no benefit to taking it down to wire. Sure, you might fluke an Ozil or a James. But my issue doing things like this is the purchase isn’t strategic. When considering the state of our squad, you’d expect all purchases to be strategic. At this point, it’s bandaid big names versus proper upgrades.

More bad news, and this is really bad… Asano… has not been granted a work permit for the season. I know, I know, hopes and dreams… shattered. So sad. But look, we might be able to pick up someone to plug the massive hole his presence has left.

I mean really, what a car crash. Because let’s be honest, he, like Holding have gone from being certain loan outs to integral parts of our squad. So he’s likely going to be a loss.

Even Patrick Vieira has joined the chorus bemoaning our lacklustre set up / performances…

“When I watch Arsenal, yes they play good football. But I just have a feeling they are missing something – the physical presence, the personality.”

Interesting watching what Mourinho has done at United. He’s brought in Ibrahimovic, who love him or hate him, brings presence both personally and physically, he has Pogba who has that wirey frame much like Patrick Vieira had and he has Baily who is a bloody monster at the back. Even Slaven Billic at West Ham totally understands how power and pace can impact a teams chances of success.

Then Patrick gets to the point of why he’s talking… he’s looking out for the boys.

“I’m disappointed not to have ex-Arsenal players working at Arsenal.

“It is good for the young players who could see a Thierry Henry, a Freddie Ljungberg, a Sol Campbell or a Martin Keown who have been at the club a good few years working in the academy, or working somewhere. I think they can do it a bit more.

“Players want to do it but do not have the opportunity. I don’t understand it. The perfect example is Ajax. You see all the old players working for the club, on the field, in the office – the door is always open for them – but Arsenal don’t do it and I don’t know why.”

We’ve had them all at it recently (jobs for the boys commentary). The Thierry issue obviously caused big reverberations around the club. Now you have the others chiming in. They’re chiming in because what they can see is a shit show unfolding they feel they could help out with.

News for you guys, the reason there aren’t explayers flocking around the club is because our explayers have major personalities. Dennis Bergkamp was apparently a pain in the arse to work with back in the day, an aggressive argumentative perfectionist who wouldn’t tolerate substandard. Partick Vieira, a man monster of a character always ready to hold people accountable. Freddie Ljungberg, Bobby Pires, Sol Campbell… Jens ‘I’d eat your children for a win’ Lehmann. All mega personalities that would challenge Wenger and his ways.

The manager can’t have that. He purposefully builds obedience into his set up. He controls the tint on the lightbulbs, the fabric on the team bus seats… everything. He also buys in players who don’t challenge. Where are our major personalities? Who is challenging the manager? Apparently Robin Van Persie back in the day used to tap up his pals about playing for Arsenal and suggest names for Wenger.

Wenger doesn’t have the old guard in because they’d tell him what’s what and that’d be scary for the manager. He’ll have seen the Moyes coup in Manchester (explayers ganging up to pressure the board into axing). Wenger would also know that he’d not be able to control his 2004 team as managers because they’re all super rich. The threat of being fired isn’t as real as it is for his current crew who likely have mortgages to pay.

It’s sinister at the top when you are the all encompassing power god. When Wenger goes, hopefully Ivan will ensure no manager is ever allowed to build a power structure like the suffocating on in place right now. We need a Barcelona model in place. Transfer committees, infrastructure owned by the CEO, a manager who is a cog, not the god.

I get so excited about the next phase of the club, because it’s going to be so good. I just worry it’ll take so damn long. We have so many great people at Arsenal. Can’t wait to see how they perform unshackled in a healthy setup.

Anyway, that’s all I’ve got for you today. Let’s see what happens today as we build towards the end of the month and the absolute horror of the deadline day scramble.

BIG LOVE. x

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640 Responses to “Zero leverage in transfer market forcing an expensive mistake? | Striker transfer hits roadblock”

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  1. Gunner2301

    I’m sure Johann Djourou would come back if we asked nicely 🙂 Arsenal TV are missing him so badly Jack Wilshire couldn’t hold a candle to him. This is Chronic PMSL.

    WENGER OUT!

  2. Marko

    In a very roundabout way, Ughe is right. What is the point of spending on Lacazette when it’s not really going to make any difference anyway. Maybe he’s talking sense without actually meaning to – the accidental genius that he is.

    He’s talking bollox. Lacazette is better than Giroud and Walcott and Akpom and Sanogo so he’d make a difference. You can argue all you want about oh but that is just the French league. If he can score 70+ goals in 3 seasons for Lyon believe me he’ll score plenty for Arsenal. The other thing is with guys like Charlie saying oh he’s not worth it at 50 million but Griezmann is worth it at 75/80 million. Well first off we ain’t buying someone like Griezmann EVER and secondly Lacazette wasn’t 50 million over a month ago but our great leader dithered and now we’re in the situation we find ourselves in. I mean the apologies you’ll make for him is absolutely laughable. West Ham agreed a fee for him earlier in the window but he was holding out for a champions league team and we dithered and waited and messed it up. Wonderful management

  3. azed

    “Ha ha azed imagine Ughe as Arsenal manager with CC as his assistant!”

    No Lacazzete because he’s overpriced but lots of Chamakh’s, Flamini’s and Sylvestre’s because they are free or very cheap.

  4. Joe

    Watch the panic at arsenal when wenger leaves

    Or maybe the CEO and a new DOF will actually be able to do thier job and not be held back by a washed up dictator

  5. azed

    “Johnny Evans would be the worst signing we have ever made.”

    Sylvestre, Squillacci, Francis Jeffers, Park Chu Young and a few others would disagree with you.

  6. Joe

    and griezmann buyout Clause is 100m as reported bunch of times on here

    So we are never going for him. Until Wenger leaves and we bring Diego in

    We could have had lacezette for 35m at the beginning of summer. That’s low than west hams accepted bid.

    So stop all this bullshit he isn’t worth 50-60m

    It’s wenger’s fault that his price has jumped up to that for waiting so long

  7. Marko

    Sylvestre, Squillacci, Francis Jeffers, Park Chu Young and a few others would disagree with you

    I bet Kroenke’s to blame for them too

  8. OleGunner

    At least you recognise Wenger needs to leave if anything to unite the fans against Kroenke (if things are still run terribly at our club after a new manager appointment).

    But I will never agree with you that Stan is holding back funds from Wenger, I’m sorry. Wenger has always been known to seek extreme value (which is fine to a certain extent) from before 2006. The stadium move just enhanced his penny pinching ways.

    Finally, if Wenger was ever held back monetarily he would never stand for that and would’ve stepped down from Arsenal years ago on principle. Listen, I’m in NO WAY saying Stan is a great owner, he’s a cancer to this club in all likelihood, but to apportion all Arsenal failings in the transfer market, tactical ineptitude in games and complete league title meltdowns is all on Wenger in my humble opinion.

  9. azed

    “I bet Kroenke’s to blame for them too”

    Yup, There’s no Wenger would sanction the buying of such poor players. He’s all about the super the qualidee.

  10. Leedsgunner

    Let’s just face the facts…

    Despite

    1. being in London, one of the top cities in the world
    2. having one of the top stadiums in the world
    3. top training and medical facilities in the world
    4. being the fifth richest club in the world
    5. 20 years of continual Champions League football (with the additional TV revenue it brings)
    6. top payers in the world sports

    … we can’t find players to make us a title force.

    Fine.

    It’s too late for me. If we sign someone now, it’s more about Wenger rather than doing what is best for the team.

    He doesn’t want to sign players… give him what he wants. Let him see in black and white how lacking his squad is.

    Truth is good for the soul.

  11. Joe

    It’s too late for me. If we sign someone now, it’s more about Wenger rather than doing what is best for the team

    Of course it is. If he did care he would have bought in June:July

    He only buy now to appease the Akbs. Because no one else will fall for that shit

  12. gonsterous

    Pooth weniger.. he is under extreme Stress taking care of the 600 staffs.. let’s give the guy a break !!

  13. Follow the money

    No no no Alexander Henry don’t try to pull that one. The true test of who is right will only be accurate if the clubs spending remains the same. If when Wenger leaves the next manager is allowed to keep our wage bill the same under Wenger and is allowed to clear out the dross and replace them with his guys only then will we have an accurate picture. This is what the AKBs have been reduced to, hoping it all goes tits up when Wenger leaves so they can continue to worship their Lord and Savior

  14. Joe

    Follow

    It won’t go tits up

    We will be so much better footballing wise(what really matters) when Wenger leaves. It’ll be great to see the AKbs reaction.

    And financially we will be better because of the footballing success

  15. Red&White4life

    “Truth is good for the soul.”
    Yes but he will always find excuses good enough for his akb devotees

  16. Leedsgunner

    No no no Alexander Henry don’t try to pull that one. The true test of who is right will only be accurate if the clubs spending remains the same. If when Wenger leaves the next manager is allowed to keep our wage bill the same under Wenger and is allowed to clear out the dross and replace them with his guys only then will we have an accurate picture. This is what the AKBs have been reduced to, hoping it all goes tits up when Wenger leaves so they can continue to worship their Lord and Savior

    This x 1000.

  17. gonsterous

    I couldn’t give a shit what the akbs think after Wenger leaves cause there will be no chance he comes back. Whether the next manager suceeds or not, we can change managers till we get the right one and that will also motivate the manager to do his job !!

  18. TitsMcGee

    “Because, judging by the last four years, Arsenal’s real issue is this: they only seem able to sign world-class stars once they become surplus to requirements at their old club. And that’s a problem that goes beyond money.”

    lol

    Everyone sees it. Everyone.

  19. TitsMcGee

    But the fact remains that all three were only available because their previous clubs brought in someone else to take their place. Real Madrid needed to sell Ozil to help pay for Gareth Bale, and free up a spot in the starting lineup. Barcelona had the same reasons for selling Sanchez after buying Luis Suarez from Liverpool. And Cech was allowed to leave Chelsea after losing his starting spot to Thibaut Courtois.

    Welcome to Arsenal, the gathering place for unwanted superstars.

  20. TitsMcGee

    “While Arsenal did pry Granit Xhaka away from Borussia Monchengladbach for a fee in the region of £30m, the Gunners are still looking for a striker and a centre-back — two glaring requirements that have been evident for some time. And Wenger keeps explaining the failure to make deals by pointing out that other teams just don’t want to sell top players.

    But that’s a problem that others find ways to overcome. Juventus did not want to sell Paul Pogba, but Manchester United forced the deal through anyway. Everton did not want to sell John Stones but Manchester City forced the deal through anyway, as they did with Kevin De Bruyne from Wolfsburg and Raheem Sterling from Liverpool in previous summers.”

  21. TitsMcGee

    Sometimes it needs to get a bit unsavoury and ugly, like convincing a player to turn against his old club and publicly push for a move. The only unsavoury and ugly move from Arsenal has been the infamous £40m plus £1 bid for Suarez in 2013, which turned them into a laughing stock.”

    Individual paragraphs for emphasis 😉

  22. TitsMcGee

    Wenger often talks about the club’s values, and it’s quite possible that they just don’t want to play those types of games. Which is admirable, in the same way that trying to play attractive attacking football at the expense of a solid defence is admirable. But it’s also holding the club back, as long as other rivals don’t shy away from those tactics.”

    🙂

  23. TitsMcGee

    “But this summer has only been another example of Wenger going after deals he thought could be easily be done. He initially had his eyes on Alvaro Morata as the striker that could solve the team’s scoring problems. But that relied on Real Madrid buying him back from Juventus and then selling him on for a profit. When Madrid decided they needed Morata themselves, Arsenal were left scrambling for alternatives.

    Jamie Vardy had a £22m release clause that made him a relative bargain, even though it’s debatable whether he’s the type of forward Arsenal need. Regardless, Vardy ended up signing a new contract with Premier League champions Leicester City. Now Arsenal have put themselves in a situation where they’re being held to ransom by other clubs who know the Gunners badly need reinforcements. So it’s no surprise they haven’t been able to force through a move for Lyon striker Alexandre Lacazette or Valencia centre-back Shkodran Mustafi, even though the Spanish club need the money.

    It’s true that Wenger has another week to get another major signing in, and could yet pull a major surprise out of the hat. But if recent history is any guide, that will only happen if some bigger dominoes fall first.”

  24. Arsenal not Arsene

    If Wenger goes ahead and signs James Rodriguez that’s it for me. Square peg on a round hole. We are screaming for a striker and a cb he goes ahead and signs a midfield. This window has got ozil written all over it.

  25. Carts

    Jeff

    It’s incredible really. It’s as if what he tells them on Friday, before the Saturday game, I more than adequate.

    He’ll watch on while we struggle and not feel the need to engage with the players.

    Pathetic

  26. Red&White4life

    “This window has got ozil written all over it.”

    Correct, but with a name much less… attractive ??

  27. azed

    “If Wenger goes ahead and signs James Rodriguez that’s it for me. Square peg on a round hole. We are screaming for a striker and a cb he goes ahead and signs a midfield. This window has got ozil written all over it.”

    If that happens, Ughelli, Alexanderhenry and all the AKB’s would hail it as a master stroke, then Blame Alexis and Giroud for not scoring enough goals, hence our inability to win the title.

  28. Galaxygooner

    While many are angry with Wenger for not signing new players, the man lost me with the players he has kept on the tabs and who are drawing ridiculous salaries.
    Remember
    Denilson – 50,000
    Bendthner – £50,000
    Van-piesie – £60,000

    This shows exactly how wenger has been ruining the club with over compensation mediocre players who offer nothing and are not developing.

    As we speak,
    Wilshere is on £ 90,000
    Theo is on £140,000
    Giroud – £110,000

    He basically handed over £220,000 a week to the trio of Arteta, Rosicky and Flamini for doing absolutely nothing.

    Arteta -85000
    Rosicky- 80000
    Flamini -65,000
    No club, I mean no club will pay these salaries to any of the players above.