Wenger going mega?

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I can’t, I can’t, I can’t…

WHAT IS IT WITH THIS SUMMER SO FAR.

So there are rumours abound that Arsenal are trying to make something mega happen. But I’m just not sure I’m quite down with it all.

Here’s why:

Our original transfer targets this summer were Vardy, Xhaka and Mikki. The club were there or there abouts on all three deals, but for reasons I’ll leave to you to Google / reasons that will come out in the wash, only one of those deals dropped.

Now, in my opinion, that was a pretty exciting plan. You bring in a DM who can transition the ball up the pitch better than Coquelin, coupled with the added bonus of Xhaka being a total brother dominating leader.

Then you had the right side of midfield absolutely nailed down with Mikki. He can assist, he can score goals and most importantly… he’s an absolute workhorse. He was the very respected Whoscored.com websites highest rated player last season (Germany). You can mock that, but whatever, they have an approach to data and it’s consistent across all the leagues. So whether you think he’s one of the best or not, stats say he’s up there even if those numbers are basic. Not just that, he was in the last year of his Dortmund deal, he was pretty cheap at £29m and he’s on record as being an Arsenal fan.

What happened there? Well, United offered £200k a week and we likely didn’t. Why? Because that’s more than Wenger earns and we know his rule on being the highest paid. Could we afford it? Absolutely. We dropped £250k odd off our wage bill with Flamini (£80k pw), Rosicky (£90k pw)and Arteta (£65k pw). Also, worth noting for all the naysayers… our wage bill is £3m short of City’s and they pay sagna £169k pw. 2/3s of a Wayne Rooney short of United’s total. We have cash to burn.

Then you had Jamie Vardy up top. A bullish player, rapid pace, hard-working and a clinical finisher. Was he perfect? No way. But jeez, think of that side.

You’ve added pace to the front line with a midfield that can spray long balls forward. You’ve cut out the failure on the right and you’ve a defensive player who is more productive and clinical than AOC and Theo combined. You have the ability in the front three to unpick sides that play blocks of four. We’d have been deadly.

Most importantly, it was a plan.

Then we went for Lacazette. No doubt about it.

We also went for Tolouse striker Ben Yedder, but he chose Sevilla (who have signed about 10 players again).

Now all of a sudden, we’re expected to believe that Arsenal are going to go mega… after spending the start of it doing exactly the opposite?

Would I like a Griezmann? Lewandowski? Auba?

Of course. But come on. What reason do any of these clubs have to let players like that go? Simeone is never going to let his superstar leave, even if it were for the €85m buyout clause. Why would Bayern sell arguably the best striker in the world without a clear replacement? Why would Dortmund sell any more big names?

It doesn’t add up.

Can’t help but think any craziness happening now is just to appease us that there was a nearly moment.

‘Oh, but Wenger tried. Loaves of bread. Brexit. Our bank balance means people rip us. Brexit. Volleyball in Brazil’

But hey, I could be totally wrong. I just don’t understand how a mega, wet your pants, walk around all day with a hard-on signing could be basically our 5th option?

It reeks of desperation and it should, because we’ve blown the summer, we’ve blown our stability advantage and we’re now at the stage where whoever we do sign will have fitness issues later on because they didn’t get a preseason with Arsenal.

It’s a bad place to be.

So could Wenger surprise us? Sure he could. Is it likely a club with a mega player would let them go at this stage? Could be, but I’m struggling with the notion. Really struggling.

What do you think?

Drop your thoughts in the comments!

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  1. Champagne charlie

    Jason

    “Convolute your argument as much as you want , but this current squad wont be winning a thing”

    Nothing convoluted, you just choose to ignore what I’ve written on the matter. Have I said what we have is enough at anytime this summer? No. That’s worlds different from saying our current group is much better prepared than we were last season. I literally said “two big signings left to get but at this point we’re in much better shape than last season”…

  2. Jasongms

    “excellent keeper(s), best fullback pairing in the league, hopefully in the near future a solid partner for arguably the best CB in the league(Koscielny), exciting new central midfield combination(Xhaka & Elneny), a bunch of talented young players vying for the one wide role up for grabs, two world class talents in Ozil & Sanchez…all we’re missing is the guy to put it into the net….in my view.”

    We havent won the league in 12 years and havent even come close to winning and youre honestly saying that in all that time we were only a striker away from do so ?….. have you ever read cervantes ?

  3. Champagne charlie

    “We havent won the league in 12 years and havent even come close to winning and youre honestly saying that in all that time we were only a striker away from do so ?….. have you ever read cervantes ?”

    Can you read a fucking comment without inventing a point of view? He’s obviously talking about this season, where does he say we’ve been short on a ST for a decade? Same shit with posters on here taking an argument they disagree with and making up the rest to suit themselves. I don;t agree we’re only a ST short but I can fucking read what is being said.. Give it a go when you put down Cervantes

  4. Jasongms

    CC
    “two big signings left to get but at this point we’re in much better shape than last season”…

    Unremarkable thing is , that statement has been said ad nauseam over the last 5 years and here we are again

  5. Champagne charlie

    Jason

    Be pessimistic all you like, doesn’t actually change things if you’re not aware. The manager has said he wants a ST and a CB before the window closes… I reserve judgement until the window closes because as it stands we can add to the team and are making the noises to do so.

    So you sit and say it’s not happening while I sit and see what happens. Meet you at the end of the window when you either have reason for pouting or you’ve moved onto something else.

  6. shad

    “Now, however, it is looking very much like same old, same old. He will leave us a couple of players short, sign someone inadequate in January and finish third or fourth.”

    I don’t think we’ll even make 4th. The tight fisted fuck wants to sink the ship and fuck off. Senile charlatan.

  7. jasongms

    “Can you read a fucking comment without inventing a point of view?”

    disregarding the past season ‘s failures to suit your own narrative isn’t going to cut it here bud.

  8. Wallace

    jasongms

    “We havent won the league in 12 years and havent even come close to winning and youre honestly saying that in all that time we were only a striker away from do so ?….. have you ever read cervantes ?”

    yeah, what Charlie said.

    and nope, not read Cervantes. big fan of Tristram Shandy though.

  9. Champagne charlie

    Jason

    The entirety of your last post is senseless. Nobody is disregarding a thing, simply appreciating the needs of now and applying their own beliefs on what can be done to solve those needs.

    What you do on here clearly is “read” a comment and then answer something the poster never said to begin with. So far you’ve claimed I think the squad is good as is, and that Wallace thinks we’ve only been a St short for a decade. Carry on, any more pearls you;re keen to share that I haven’t actually said?

  10. jasongms

    CC

    I prefer facts based on comparative evidence, not fanciful speculation. The fact is we are one week to the opening game and the squad is a fucking mess, now you can sit there and debate that all you want but it won’t change this simple truth

  11. PessimisticPat

    Champagne Charlie

    I never said a substantial part. I just pointed out that they werent new faces as you claimed. Not new thats all. But going on your definition I am much more hopeful for the new season.

    As you seem to think players only contribute minutes not appearances i am looking forward to our “100% NEW FACES” in the league this year
    (Once they’ve completed their bedding in period of 6 games of course):

    Welbeck 578 league mins last year = New Face
    Gibbs 381 league mins last year = New Face
    Ospina 360 league mins last year = New Face
    Chambers 315 league mins last year = New Face
    Debuchy 144 league mins last year = New Face
    Wilshere 141 league mins last year = New Face

    Added to Iwobi, Elneny, Holding, Asano, Adelaide, Bielik and Xhaka
    Thats 13 NEW FACES.
    Half a squad of “NEW FACES”.

    PHEW. Thanks Charlie, and to think i was worrying about our transfer business this summer 😉

  12. Joe

    but we’d have faired much better last term with Elneny from the start than having flamini/coquelin holding.

    Ummmm. Weren’t we leading the league before we signed Elneny in Jan

    And then went on to finish 10
    Points back?

  13. Alexanderhenry

    CC

    Agreed on the arsenal squad being better. Fingers crossed we make one or two more signings.
    I doubted it unless wenger sold first but I may be wrong

  14. Champagne charlie

    Jason
    “I prefer facts based on comparative evidence, not fanciful speculation. The fact is we are one week to the opening game and the squad is a fucking mess, now you can sit there and debate that all you want but it won’t change this simple truth”

    Saying the squad is a mess is purely opinion you utter melt, the fact you prefaced that by saying you take a facts based approach and not speculative is just hilarious. Do you know the meanings of the words you use? Your opinions can easily be challenged thanks, given they’re not facts…

    Doublethink
    Minutes vs “appearances”. They’ve both played less than 900 minutes (10 games) for us in top level competition. “100% new faces” wtf does that even mean? I said compared to last season they’re new given this year they can realistically be relied upon to have valued input.

  15. Mohap99

    The lots of you saying after Liverpool give us a bashing and then we will realize the obvious truths are the same people who will say our squad is good enough to beat anyone if we win let’s say 4-1

    Some of you here just make it worse. Read some comments and I’m like wow, these sets of fans still believe…

    Anyone else things El Neny brings better balance to our game ? Came in for a token but I tell you he’s a baller. Not the required type for our objectives though

  16. jasongms

    “Carry on, any more pearls you;re keen to share that I haven’t actually said?”

    care to post more speculative nonsense or agenda-ridden narrative and then yeah I’ll correct you …

    ___________

    “and nope, not read Cervantes. ”

    try reading don quixote, I’m sure you’ll find you have much in common

  17. Champagne charlie

    Pat
    Shocker, another poster taking what’s said an removing all context to make a ridiculous ‘point’. Good effort pat.

    Joe
    So guess Elneny cost us the league by that superb analysis ay joey

  18. Redtruth

    Xhaka is nothing more than a spoiler and will have little impact on games.

    Iwobi is a rookie and at best a benchwarmer in Cup games.

    Giroud remains a donkey.

    Elneny lol lol

    Cech lol.lol

    Ox lol lol

    As you can see a joke of a side

  19. Champagne charlie

    Jason

    Difference is I’m not speculating, you just can’t comprehend what’s written and instead make it up as you go along…

    Are you attempting to convey intelligence by suggesting others read Cervantes? Be a helpful start were you to just read what’s being written here instead of giving tips.

  20. Wallace

    Mohap99

    “Anyone else things El Neny brings better balance to our game ? Came in for a token but I tell you he’s a baller. ”

    yeah, really looking forward to watching him this season. looked very sharp yesterday. absolute steal at 7m.

  21. Alexanderhenry

    The level of pessimism oh here is depressing.
    I think I’d see more positivity at a funeral.

    Anyway, the reality is that we are stronger than last season and our main rivals are all in a state of transition. Looking at their squads, I don’t see them as being significantly better than us at this stage.
    Also, the assumption that mourinho will prevail is false. Last season he failed spectacularly and the way he behaved during the whole sorry episode I think might have damaged his reputation for good.

    There is room for optimism

  22. STV

    Xhaka : New Signing
    Iwobi :New face (lol)
    Asano: New Signing
    Elneny: New Face (lol)

    So Captain Wenger and his AKB admirers are ready for new season!! Bring if on..

  23. STV

    “Anyone else things Sanogo brings better balance and much needed athletism to our game ? you he’s a baller and a poacher. ”

    Oh come on ..Wallace, back me up, I just love this guy!..

  24. PessimisticPat

    Champagne “13 New Faces” Charlie

    Just pointed out that they weren’t new faces thats all.
    You set the rules about what “NEW FACES” are, not me.
    It seems that whenever anyone disagrees with you, or points out the flaw in your logic then they are:
    “removing all context to make a ridiculous ‘point’.”

  25. jasongms

    “Saying the squad is a mess is purely opinion you utter melt, the fact you prefaced that by saying you take a facts based approach and not speculative is just hilarious. Do you know the meanings of the words you use? Your opinions can easily be challenged thanks, given they’re not facts…”

    supported by facts …

    Only one senior central defender going into the new season
    No first team striker going into the new season
    Right side midfield not sorted
    Relying on players that have either constantly failed ( previously seasons) or aren’t valued by the manager
    Missing 5 first time players due to international tournaments ( although not Wenger’s fault , his inability to plan for this has exacerbated the problem )

    In layman terms, this is a fucking mess….

    and then we have your narrative .. ” we are one or two signings away” from making America , oh I mean Wenger , oh I mean arsenal great again

  26. Champagne charlie

    So a guy who was bought in Jan, played a handful of games, and goes starts his first full season with the club isn’t a new face? Seems reasonable….

    Same goes with a talent who just broke into the first team scene tail end of last year, is on his first full pre-season, first time getting a proper squad number but he too isn’t a new face because he’s been part of the academy. Good stuff..

  27. STV

    Bentner is like a new signing- Wenger

    Diaby is like a new signing- Wenger

    Wilshere is like a new signing- Wenger

    Elneny is like a new face – AKB

    Iwobi is like a new face – AKB

  28. Champagne charlie

    Pat

    yea you got it mate I’m always right and don’t appreciate anyone elses view. Or you just compared Elneny to Wilshere and asked why they’re both not new faces…

    I’ve plenty of time for people who are sensible but you’re just being a tit frankly so why bother. I’ve said my bit above, if you can’t reasonably see how Iwobi and Elneny are new faces for this season ahead vs last then I’ve nothing much else to tell you. Disagree and move on to making another ridiculous comparison with another poster.

  29. Champagne charlie

    Can see the posters who haven’t a fucking scooby what to do when confronted by an ulterior perspective…

    The AKB and Arsene quips come at full tilt. Rinse repeat

  30. Champagne charlie

    “Glad to see champagne bellend is getting abused, geeza is an absolute prat”

    haha get outside more mate if internet abuse gets you happy. jesus christ

  31. Wallace

    jasongms

    “and then we have your narrative .. ” we are one or two signings away” from making America , oh I mean Wenger , oh I mean arsenal great again.”

    hah! although I’ve always associated the WOBs with Trump.

  32. Champagne charlie

    joe

    Stop angling for popularity on here mate it’s embarrassing. Everyone still knows you’re a melt

  33. Joe

    Ha. Keep trying CC

    Just as the table never lies.

    Neither do the posts.

    But you’re right. You and Alex Henry are the loved and favourites on here 🙂

  34. Champagne charlie

    Joe

    You might be the dumbest person I’ve ever come across. Here it is in plain english for you:

    I don’t care what people think about me on here, I’m a voice, total anonymity, an Arsenal fan and nothing more.

    It’s you fixated with people and personal pissing contests, the whole thing is sad given (I’m assuming) you’re a middle aged man..

  35. STV

    If projecting Iwobi and Elneny as the new faces is what you call ulterior perspective, then let me just run away from this discussion..

    Wenger said similar things (not a joke) before, regarding players like Diaby Wilshere and Bentner who didnt play big part of the previous seasons..

    A laughable attempt to excuse his utter inability to bring in proper player through tw..

    Brainwashed idiots can imbibe such notion.. Just let them.

  36. Joe

    Joe You might be the dumbest person I’ve ever come across. Here it is in plain english for you:I don’t care what people think about me on here, I’m a voice, total anonymity, an Arsenal fan and nothing more. It’s you fixated with people and personal pissing contests, the whole thing is sad given (I’m assuming) you’re a middle aged man..

    Fish on.

    And hooked hahaha

  37. Champagne charlie

    Joe

    Your self worth and happiness is dependant on an Arsenal blog mate I’d pipe down a touch…

  38. Joe

    from claiming from his source close to the club that we were getting griezmann to proclaiming iWobi and Elneny as new faces.

    The life of an akb

  39. Wallace

    STV

    “If projecting Iwobi and Elneny as the new faces is what you call ulterior perspective, then let me just run away from this discussion….
    A laughable attempt to excuse his utter inability to bring in proper player through tw..”

    Elneny & Iwobi aren’t ‘proper’ players?

    what constitutes a ‘proper player’, STV?

  40. STV

    A laughable attempt to excuse his utter inability to bring in proper player through tw..

    Was proclaiming Diaby Bentner and Wilshere as new Signings. As the master did..

    I am not buying that..

    For your second Q’s.

    A proper player is a Sanogo..

  41. Wallace

    STV

    “Wallace what you think about my hero Sanogo?”

    nah, always looks like a man buttf*cking one of his fans while chasing a coconut down a stairs from where I’m sat.

  42. Joe

    Haha oh Charlie. You really are a clueless cunt

    in football and life.

    Go back to bed mate. Start your day again

    And come up with a better idea than iWobi and Elneny as new faces who will lead arsenal to a title charge

  43. Joe

    Wallace

    Are Elneny and iWobi going to help us compete for the title ?

    Or more likely help with the top 4 fight?

    That’s the question that needs to be asked

  44. STV

    Wallace

    That wasn’t your definition!

    But you gave me a huge surprise with that assessment! I was half expecting you’ll say something like how X or Y been saying he’s top class, how Wenger rates him, how he was free, how he can be 50m player, how we can earn with him etc.. Etc..

    Real surprise.

  45. Joe

    and again. Maybe under a different ma manger iWobi and Elneny could help us to a title.

    But not under Wenger. Claudio perhaps?

    A manager to bring out the best in players.

    Pep. Jose. Klopp

    Under Wenger yeah will flounder and not help us achieve anything

  46. jasongms

    hah! although I’ve always associated the WOBs with Trump.”

    How is that ? Trump and Wenger share the same exact thing, they both epitomize the cult of personality.

    Surely it’s not new to you that some’ fans follow Wenger exclusively and regardless of him being the Arsenal manager. In their eyes, he can do no wrong and the previous season’s failures are seen as an aberration …
    it’s the main reason why any discussion about the past 12 years is not part of their narrative or easily forgotten

  47. Wallace

    Joe

    “You really are a clueless cunt in football and life.”

    it’s only been a few days since your carer/career mare. maybe give it a while longer before you start in on the ‘clueless cunt’ stuff.

  48. Doublethink

    Doublethink
    Minutes vs “appearances”. They’ve both played less than 900 minutes (10 games) for us in top level competition. “100% new faces” wtf does that even mean? I said compared to last season they’re new given this year they can realistically be relied upon to have valued input.
    —-
    ‘Wtf does that mean’ I don’t know you said so I’m assuming it makes sense to you. They both significant minutes in important games so if you don’t know what you’re talking about I have no fucking idea.