Arsenal embarrassingly called out by Lyon for low-balling

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Arsenal have been embarrassingly called out by Lyon over their derisory bid for Lacazette earlier on in the summer.

“The reality is that the club Arsenal made an offer worth 35m euros (£29m), which Lyon did not follow up on for one reason: OL will keep Alexandre Lacazette who is irreplaceable and who is one of the main leaders in Bruno Genesio’s squad.”

The way Lyon work is that all players are transferable. Their owner, Jean-Michel Aulas, sold some serious assets back in the day when Lyon were the dominant force in French football (Diarra to Madrid / Essien to Chelsea). Every player is transferable, the money he gets for his stars is ploughed back into finding more gems to sell. Something went wrong in their approach, much like Arsenal’s plus PSG came to party, which led to a demise.

So, point here is Lyon will sell if we pay.

The fact Arsenal are dropping bids that are lower than West Ham says a lot. The fact we’re even in for Lacazette says a lot. He’s a West Ham striker at best, and we’re dropping lowball bids to find value in a market where we don’t need to be doing so.

Lacazette didn’t make the French squad that Giroud and Gignac did. He couldn’t make their squad, at 25 years old, when Martial did and Benzema was bombed out. He’s no spring chicken, he could only manage 17 goals last year. He’s a punt on a player who is probably not going to blow up the world football scene.

What are we doing here?

Arsene Wenger has shown a few things over the past 4 or 5 seasons. The main one being that as an economist, he’s really lacking.

He missed a few of the important modules coming through university.

#1 Supply and demand. If there is not enough supply to meet the demand, then prices go up. A lack of world class strikers is NOT a new issue. The reasons fees are so high is because there is a scarcity of talent.

#2 Inflation is and has been a thing in football since the nineties. We’re looking at almost 30% a season. Quick and fast rule here… if TV deals go up, so do player wages and player prices.

Suarez £40m >>> 1 season later £70m

Higuain ‘we don’t see the value in £32m’ >>> 3 seasons later goes for £92m

You can’t fight it. It is what it is. No one cares what you think about valuations. They’re going up for everyone. If you can’t keep up, get out.

#3 Player inflation greatly outstrips interest rates. Keeping cash in the bank actually costs Arsenal money. In 3 years, has our cash pile brought in £60m revenue? Of course it hasn’t. Like saving for a house in the UK, if your wages don’t match the hike in house prices, your deposit pile grows every year, but it becomes worth less.

Instead of dithering, back a horse.

We’re entering the year of the £100m player. Why? Because football is not a bubble. We’ve been saying it for years as people were predicting mass bankruptcies of clubs, that as long as the money keeps pouring in, there will be no end to this gravy train. Football is a global product, the Premier League is just getting started when it comes to exploiting the opportunities.

Pissing around with tier 2 players like Lacazette is not how you win in this game. We need to go harder, get smarter and accept that it’s no longer paying a premium to go £40m on a striker, it’s going for the cheap option.

FINAL POINT: A lot of people say that Arsene and Ivan are right to keep their negotiations private for players.

Here’s the thing, if the whole of Europe knows 1) We have loads of money 2) Our idea of value means 1997 prices that are basically ripping off clubs… we’re not going to do too well out of them.

Everyone knows our transfer strategy is based on Wenger unearthing a gem he can show off about. It used to work, now any CEO in world football who has Wenger bidding for his player will know that we’re not paying enough.

Right, that’s me done. OVER AND OUT.

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  1. naijagunner

    Maybe I am letting my own preferences cloud my judgement of things but Lacazette has never excited me and i do not believe he take us to the next level

    Just my personal opinion

  2. Marc

    Cesc

    You missed off £7 for a hotdog – actually wouldn’t mind if it were a decent hotdog or you didn’t have to queue for ages because the club employs mongs.

  3. tunnygriffboy

    Stv

    Got to stick up for Lacazette a bit here. There was a French journalist on the radio over the weekend and he said the people who brought through Martial and Lacazette couldn’t believe that Martial went to the euros ahead of Lacazette . Said Lacazette is a better option and more versatile than Martial.

    Said he has spoken to the hierarchy that he wants out of Lyon if a big club çomesin for him but won’t kick up a huge fuss in public as he is a Lyon boy. Said if Lyon get £50 million euros he can go.

  4. Marko

    Been told we ain’t buying a CB

    So unsurprisingly another dumb decision made by a tight fisted dumb club. Honestly we needed another defender and to loan out Chambers before Mertesacker got injured and signing a 20 year old from league one Bolton doesn’t change anything. Absolute joke if we don’t sign up a starting 11 defender. And they wonder why we struggle in the early part of the season and the group stages of the champions league.

  5. N5

    So the general consensus is, Arsene never fails to fail so we should just accept that and stop moaning and accept our lot?

    Imagine how different history would be if everyone just sat quietly not demanding more.

  6. Marc

    Divine

    Well ManU have paid him almost 4 times the wages he was on (double what he would have got at Arsenal) and I don’t think you can compare the pull of Madrid to Arsenal.

  7. Barking Arsene

    Naija

    I do agree with you to a degree on Lacazette (or any striker of his level)

    I don’t think he would elevate us on his own, but combined with a good wide player I think that could take us up a notch.

    Although he is still a good forward.

  8. GoonerEris

    The way some slag off the club for doing what any right thinking, rational person/business should do in an unstable market, is irritating, at times. Which one of us would go to the market or shops without an idea of how far you can go for some commodity? Or, when it concerns a buy-out clause, how many would see a price tag and offer to pay more than that valuation, just to prove a point? The club does not have the luxury of a State or some foreign billionaire splashing funds at it and must run within its resources, while improving shareholder value. It is still a business.

    By the way, the price paid for Xhaka still remains the highest sum paid, so far, for a new signing in the EPL, so far this summer. Of course, I stand to be corrected.

  9. Marc

    Tunny

    There will be no marquee signing before the season starts. I’ll be surprised if we sign any first team player full stop,

  10. tunnygriffboy

    Marko

    Where did you hear no CB.

    Tell me quick because I’ve got a headache. I’ve been running headfirst into a wall for the last two hours. I’ve lost the plot 🙂 🙂

  11. Ashley

    and so it begins , Arsenal offering 5p for a loaf of bread that’s clearly marked £1.75 , then moaning that they couldn’t buy what they wanted , then they walk over to the reduced section and buy some bread that goes off that day ….

  12. naijagunner

    “Imagine how different history would be if everyone just sat quietly not demanding more.”

    Call me modest but i do not believe we are making any history here

    Tell you something , since you are a season ticket holder why not go to the Liverpool game, buy a pop corn , empty the contents from the bowl, shit into the bowl and sprint over and dump that shit on Wenger’s head,.

    Now that’s history

  13. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    Agreed, paid a ridiculous amount for a chicken burger in there, fell to pieces in my hand, always use the burger van now outside, well, not really a van, man with a griddle in the road, but top notch cheeseburgers.

    Tunny

    RP said no CB, likely heard it from one of his friends who works at Arsenal.

    Not a surprise really is it? We’ve been waiting 4-5 years for a ST, we’ve only been needing a CB for 24 hours, wind your neck in!

  14. Spanishdave

    It’s hard to get excited about anything while the old dickhead is in charge.
    It drains the life out if you and I couldn’t care a less what happens until he buggers off.
    He is ruining our club and will be remembered only on what mess he leaves the club in not what he did back 12 years ago.

  15. N5

    Ha ha Naija. If you think I’m pouring away popcorn that costs about £5 you’re having a laugh. Also I sit next to the away fans which is the complete opposite side to Wenger so I couldn’t reach him.

  16. Jim Lahey

    “The way some slag off the club for doing what any right thinking, rational person/business should do in an unstable market, is irritating, at times”

    Awww sweet! When do we get presented the “Made sensible financial decisions” trophy?!

  17. Cesc Appeal

    I don’t know why but I always think of the ‘Fingernails for Cash’ song when thinking about our transfer windows.

  18. N5

    Jim you joke, but Arsenal have won a shit ton of business awards. Sadly the fans don’t give a fuck about that industry stuff and selfishly want championships to gloat about.

    Selfish pricks.

  19. Marc

    So first match of the season available players as it stands with rushing anyone back.

    Starting 11
    Cech, Bellerin, Monreal, Gabriel, Chambers, Xhaka, Wilshere, Ox, Santi, Iwobi, Walcott.

    On the bench
    GK (no idea who’ll we’ll have about), Elneny, Coq, Sanogo, Akpom, Gibbs, Debuchy.

    Have I missed anyone out?

  20. Ughelligunner

    “But again we don’t sign players in response to public pressure. We sign players because we
    believe they will progress us as a club. We’re really disciplined about that. We have to be. We don’t have the financial resources of some of the other
    clubs. If we went out and just tried to compete only on the
    basis of spending more than others in transfer windows, that wouldn’t be a successful strategy
    for us. We have to be very disciplined about staying true to
    our values, staying true to the foundations of the club and making sure that we make smart
    decisions. Looking ahead in this transfer
    window, we’re going to retain that discipline. We will certainly add players if we think and our
    manager thinks they add value to our squad. We’re actively in the market, as is every other club. We
    won’t do it if we don’t see the
    value that’s added to our squad. That’s the reason why our squad has developed over the last few
    years. That’s the reason it is stronger today than it was five
    years ago. I think anybody paying attention to what we’ve actually done with our squad will
    recognize that philosophy and that approach has given us a squad that is capable of competing to win the Premier
    League and we’re very hopeful about the direction of travel”.
    Ivan Gazidis

  21. naijagunner

    “Awww sweet! When do we get presented the “Made sensible financial decisions” trophy?!”

    We already have it , it’s that huge cash reserves you all keep demanding we spend. It didn’t just appear in the bank you know

  22. DivineSherlock

    Marc

    Juve is paying 94mn for Higuain ! Im saying wasnt Aubameyang worth it then higuain at age and talent wise ? Wages, surely Juve could’ve match those on par with Madrids ?

  23. naijagunner

    “I don’t know why but I always think of the ‘Fingernails for Cash’ song when thinking about our transfer windows.”

    That song was hilarious , so love family guy

  24. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    ‘Have I missed anyone out?’

    You have, it goes Xhaka CDM, Wilshere CM, Iwobi RM, Caz CAM, Oxlade LM and £100 Million ST.

    Say what you want about £100 Million, but his ball control is excellent, just lands with a thud and sticks as if landing in a bog, probably because he just lays out there even when the sprinklers are on…doesn’t talk much either, or really move about the pitch, gets a lot of yellows as well but in all honesty the defenders run into him.

  25. N5

    “We already have it , it’s that huge cash reserves you all keep demanding we spend. It didn’t just appear in the bank you know”

    Cool, I can’t wait to sing that at the next game. The other teams are going to be so jealous.

    Chelsea can sing about their European cup win and such but we can sing “we have 200 million in the bank you do…. oh wait”.

  26. Marc

    Divine

    Unless Juve have been bought out they can’t get close to Madrid’s finances. It’s also irrelevant if a player is set on a club.

  27. naijagunner

    @N5

    You seem to ignore the part where i said you have to sprint. You can’t dump shit on the supreme leader’s head without putting in some work and also spending some money,

  28. vicky

    Naija

    I thought Lacazzete was bang average two years ago when he was first linked to us along with Fekir. Most of his goals were either penalties or tap-ins. But I think his game has improved now, still not an elite player,far from it but there is more to his game now. His finishing and pace is better than that of Giroud, he can dribble unlike Giroud. Giroud has got a better touch and aerial ability though. Worth a punt in my opinion especially when we have hardly got any decent striker to choose from. He is not a 42M player but we just can’t afford to have another season pinning all our hopes on Giroud.

  29. Jim Lahey

    “It didn’t just appear in the bank you know”

    No most of it came out of the pockets of the fans that go to watch us not compete every week…

  30. N5

    “You can’t dump shit on the supreme leader’s head without putting in some work and also spending some money,”

    Ha ha very clever Naija. I tip my shit filled hat to you on that one 😀

  31. Jim Lahey

    @N5 – “Jim you joke, but Arsenal have won a shit ton of business awards. Sadly the fans don’t give a fuck about that industry stuff and selfishly want championships to gloat about.”

    Are you insane! I brag about it to the lads down in the pub all the time! Mkhitaryan this, Pogba that! Bah I say to them all! They don’t have balance sheets like we do!

  32. Samesong

    According to the Mirror, Shkodran Mustafi & Fabian Schar are amongst the centre-backs under consideration by #Arsenal.

  33. STV

    Tunny It’s difficult to put conclusions on Martial performances. He’s had a reasonably good year and judging by that he should have a bright future..

    I agree that based on last season, Lacazette might get a slight nod but he would still be behind Griezmann Payet and Coman( who I think is a massive talent)..

    I am not very optimistic about his future in French squad tho because with the returning of Benzema it’s gonna be difficult for him.

    For Arsenal, I will be disappointed if we buy him especially if we are not Signing a winger along with it. But I understand it’s better than alternative strategy which is to do nothing or players like Bacca or yidder.

    Seems like neither will happen. Let’s see how he performs this season.

  34. Marc

    Cesc

    Sorry but you’re full of shit. £100 million’s stats recently have been awful, he has no pace, tends to sulk, bottles it as soon as the opposition get in his face and what’s he won?

  35. Ughelligunner

    The part where he said we dont sign players due to public pressure. And where he says Arsenal cant compete financially when we go toe to toe with our major competitors.

    Shouldn’t the AST and the BSM be demanding something now rather than late into the season when everything is locked down and we are told to be patient? Everything isn’t about wenger you know.

  36. Jim Lahey

    How about we do something radical… We take the equivalent of the Higuain fee that we didn’t dish out and throw it at Dortmund for Aubameyang?

  37. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    Why do you hate £100 Million? He has a lot of hidden values that aren’t always readily apparent, very interest-ing (I thank you) though he does seem to have a weird fetish for the Queen judging by the tattoos.

  38. Ashley

    I’ll say it , Never heard of Ben yedder until today but sign him up !! We need someone !! Who cares how short he is , we all know height isn’t the be all and end all in football , how short is Sanchez ? How short is augero ? How short is Santi ? How short is messi ? …. Doesn’t stop those guys does it , he should be the absolute bare minimum if Wenger wants to give what we have , a chance ( which I can’t actually believe he’s going to do ) and like others have said , if Seville are in for him it’s saying something , getting desparate now just want to see us move for someone … P.s , juve have shown the world that resale value Has no place in football when you want to win and be the best and I can get on board with that …

  39. Marc

    On a serious note guy’s you’ve just reminded me that it’s bin day tomorrow – thanks. No idea what rubbish suddenly sprung into my mind.

  40. Jim Lahey

    Hey Dortmund you like money? Here is £79m.

    Hey Aubameyang do you also like money? Here is £180k a week…

    Man I need to go into negotiating I’m good at this!!

  41. STV

    Pogba too wanted Real.. In the end it’s all about who can offer unreasonable amount of money to cool off other’s interest..

    Sadly.

  42. salparadisenyc

    I’m with Jim, throw the TV money at Aubamyang, quit trying to unearth the next Chamakh in Ligue 1.

  43. kc

    Gazidis statement might have been made for a reason. He basically used all of Wenger’s excuses before he could all in that one go. Wenger might have to get creative with his lies this year. Maybe we’ll get something original.

  44. Redtruth

    Marc

    I’m laughing because it’s true…You and N5 will be singing, “One Arsene Wenger, theirs only one Arsene Wenger, one Arsene Wenger, theirs only one Arsene Wenger….one Arsene Wenger….lol lol lol

  45. STV

    Since we are probably stuck with Asano Giroud Akpom and Sanogo.. We need creative ways to utilize these players and strike fear in to the opposition.

    Anyone got any idea??

  46. Hunter

    The only way to dismantle the Wenger machine is rebellion from within,Ozil,Sanchez,Kos and Ramsey to all hand in transfer requests stating lack of ambition and lack of confidence in the manager,us to not win our first ten games,and stadium revolt by the core fans and Usmanov to make an aggressive takeover.Wenger is a madman,delusional,and no longer respected by a large majority of fans.He has single handily divided the fan base,turned AFC into a laughing stock in the world of transfer negotiating and can no longer be trusted to make the right decisions,’on the field’ and ‘Off’.
    I appreciate the AKB’s will always support him and I respect their loyalty but I truly believe he will be the downfall of our club.
    If ever a statue is made of him and placed outside the stadium I dread to think of the outcome,he is becoming the most hated Arsenal manager of all time,I cannot remember another manager of AFC that is thought of in that way!

  47. Tomtom

    I can imagine the groans at the Liverpool game as our ever expanding list of average players are read out.
    You would need a serious amount of drugs to show any enthusiasm for the current squad that Wenger has assembled

  48. The Royal Arsehole

    Days Left “19”..We are now just a fucking disgrace and joke in the market. I have proceeded to squeeze my cock in vice every two hours to stop thinking about the up coming failure called a season. My wife has currently scheduled me with a quack to try and make sense of this situation. I feel madness has set in as another ground hog summer transfer market is underway. The madness being I might feel a different outcome is possible but always gets hit in the fucking head by a mallet hidden in the feathers of a running ostrich.

    The quack has told me I need to try and look at the problem from the eyes of Ivan and Wenger. He feels I might not understand what they are trying to do this transfer season. I told him I will go book a trip to Costa Rica at a busy resort where all the people are have a grand ole time. But to see from there eyes, I will lick the back of a toad and only watch from the tree line as all these people have a great time buying drinks, whores, and fried monkeys. I will not partake in the revelry thou…… I will sit, and from the tree line with purple swollen cock in hand holding the ice from the vice, and there I will realize what a fucking worthless waste Arsene Wenger really is.

  49. Tomtom

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Wenger making love to a pile of cash in the centre circle as Kroenke runs his fingers through his hair

  50. Bamford10

    “Clearly Arsene thinks more highly of himself than other clubs think of him.”

    For Wenger it is always 2005, if not 1995.

  51. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Bam

    Trying to sign players thinking he is big name …which no more he is,
    Like the grandad who keeps pisses himself …

    As madness would sing he’s an embrassemnent …

  52. TitsMcGee

    We at Arsenal have plenty to complain about but this Higuain deal is not that. Leave this one through to the keeper.”

    Well it kinda is considering that we passed on him for 32m at 25 years old….because we thought he was too expensive lol Not so much now is it?

  53. Bamford10

    Everybody is going to extremes, I think. While Lacazette is not all that fantastic, he would give us enough pace and scoring through the center that he’s probably worth a bid. However, he’s also probably not worth more than 35m or so, so it doesn’t make sense to go too much higher than that.

    I haven’t watched Yedder, so I can’t say anything about him.

    Am beginning to think if we weren’t going to spend big on an Higuain or Auba or Lukaku, we should’ve taken a punt on Batshuayi. I think he could’ve been interesting for us.

    Or a cheeky bid for Sturridge, but I guess that had its risks.

  54. Bamford10

    Royal

    Is that 19 days till Liverpool? I assume so.

    Am I right to think the window closes on Sep. 1?

  55. TitsMcGee

    Arsene is always about 3 to 4 years behind the market curve. He’s perpetually living in the past. The only trouble is nobody has the balls to tell him “what the fuck are you doing – get it done or fuck off”. Terrified of hurting his fragile feelings, nobody says anything and we just carry on”

    “Arsenal are always two players short”

    –Rafa Honigstein.

  56. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Joe

    We all know wengers spent as a top manger , players know it the board knows it an we go too,
    But as a financial manger he still functions very well ,

    As its all bout money why change….

  57. Bamford10

    “The way some slag off the club for doing what any right thinking, rational person/business should do in an unstable market, is irritating, at times.”

    I’d say it’s more inflated than unstable. And I think you’re misrepresenting Wenger’s approach. One, lets recall he spent 11m last summer on a single player, a GK, despite our needing two or three field players.

    That’s not prudent involvement in the market; that’s a refusal to participate.

    Further, the complaint is largely that he is constantly trying to underbid the valuation and haggle, not that he refuses to pay over.

  58. salparadisenyc

    Wenger attempt’s at landing a striker are really proving to be an exercise in feebleness. For all his talk of commitment, he sorely lacks the commitment it takes to pull the striker trigger.

    I’d say he’s uncommitted at this point.

    The cursory bids are clearly to be used as evidence he tried, but the values were just beyond his player valuations as a fall back.

    Said it a few days ago ringing truer with this Lacazette news, Mourinho has literally built a wrecking crew of a spine in the 2+ months he’s had where as Wenger’s been working on it with a budget for 5+ years and isn’t willing or can’t get it cracked. Always a piece or two short.

    Roll on Sept. 1

  59. TitsMcGee

    Lacazette looks pretty one dimensional to me. Not great but just okay. Okay doesn’t really get us anywhere, Arsenal are more than just one okay player from competing .

    However, as was mentioned before, we don’t exactly have a take no prisoners /win at all costs/whatever it takes in the transfer window kind of manager do we?

    I’d say Lacazette is probably(unfortunately for us) the best we can do under Ebenezer Scrooge.

  60. Drey

    I really hope the big teams hammer Wenger the way we have been hoping they would this season, so he can take his exaggerated leave..
    Last season was massive miss,for the AKBs and WOB

  61. TitsMcGee

    I am pretty meh on Ben Yedder as well. To me he should have been the “project” signing that Asano is. Much more upside to me.

    Imagine if Wenger signs him as the striker signing at 10 million. lol

  62. WengerEagle

    Agree Tits.

    Ben Yedder as the marquee CF signing would be almost hilariously underwhelming.

    In addition to a top notch one, by all means, has a good scoring record and isn’t particularly old at 25.

  63. Cesc Appeal

    I don’t know why but Ben Yedder just feels like a Spurs signing, that sort of ‘worth a punt at that price because we’ve got (insert player) anyway.’

  64. Champagne charlie

    Can someone explain the hysteria and fear about Leicester and Liverpool for the first two games?

    Irrelevant whether we sign players by then frankly, first month of the season is played with no form and usually no tempo. Need to be solid defensively, good shape, and we should start well and see potentially difficult games later on out the way early.

    Not buying the ‘get X in before season starts’, just get them in during the window.

  65. WengerEagle

    Charlie

    Neither would be my first choice to be honest (hardly a surprise with Yedder but a lot of people might think I’m odd in that I’m not exactly erect for Mahrez) but they would give us a big boost, especially Mahrez who if he can replicate his efforts last season will be a real handful.

    I prefer Lacazette to Yedder and I’m not even that fond of the former.

    Would I take those two? At this point, yes for sure.

  66. WengerEagle

    Mahrez would be in my top 3(ish) list of RW targets though tbf.

    Would have preferred Mkhitaryan to Mahrez but United stole a march on us there.

    And I think that Draxler has a silly-high ceiling, he’d probably be my first choice RW signing now.

  67. David Smith

    I wouldn’t call 29 million for Lacazette low balling.
    Wengers lack of urgency over a striker during the last four years has led to this…..his megalomaniac control of the youth system has reduced the quality of players coming through, and his dithering and obsession with his perception of value has cost him good players when they were affordable, and will ensure he gets nobody of note now they are not.
    Maybe, just maybe this intransigence could finally spell the end of him after next season. He will not be so lucky next season as he was last if he fails to strengthen .

  68. Samesong

    WE

    I think Mahrez can replicate his form maybe not score as many goals but will still be a handful for teams. However that protection from Kante is now missing so will be interesting to see how he does.

  69. Joe

    Irrelevant whether we sign players by then frankly, first month of the season is played with no form and usually no tempo. Need to be solid defensively, good shape, and we should start well and see potentially difficult games later on out the way early.

    Because you can’t win the title in August or sept but you can lose it.

  70. Samesong

    Liverpool are one of those funny teams and with Mane (Loves scoring against Arsenal) and Winjaldin, Coutinho and Sturridge etc they probably still got more business to do in the transfer window will tart to look like a decent side.

  71. Silverhawk

    You know.. Wenger doesn’t totally fail.. Won’t be surprised if we sign James Rodriguez or someone of that ilk along with no one else.. Then we’ll be left wishing we had gotten a defensive player after falling just short again of anything tangible.. You just know this.

  72. Leedsgunner

    “Been told we ain’t buying a CB”

    Not rocket science — it will be used as a crutch by Wenger to signal again, how unfair and unlucky everything is against Arsenal.

    Anything to use as an excuse to distract attention and focus from his own inaction and incompetence.

  73. N5

    Samesong. I’m a little surprised at how few people Klopp has moved on yet though. I assumed he’d be shipping a considerable amount of them out, but he’s seemingly persisting with the majority.

  74. Leedsgunner

    As I said last night…

    In light of Mertesacker’s latest injury I foresee one of four eventualities coming into play :

    1. Wenger actually signing a young class defender to bolster our ranks like Rugani or Stones (least likely)

    2. Wenger cancels the proposed loan for Calum Chambers and readies both Gabs and Chambers to take Mert’s place hoping we can muddle through until he comes back. The thing is if the injury is as serious as being reported, then we might as well write Mert off for the season. It will take him months, I reckon for him to get match fit from a 5 month injury…We will truly be scuppered if Kos picks up an injury… which is now most likely if Mert is out.

    3. Wenger will resort to bringing in a freebie or a cheap alternative to provide cover. Tommy V anyone?

    4. A youth product like J. Piezelguelo(sp) and or Bielik will be promoted to provide cover (most likely).

    Plus Holding will suddenly be hailed as a player for today rather than one for the future a few days ago.

  75. Joe

    If we are 6 points out by end of August and 10 by end of sept.

    We are not making up those points

    We could be 5-6 points out by after Leicester match

  76. Samesong

    N5

    From the Echo 2 days ago. The intention definetly is there.

    Klopp is eager to trim down squad numbers.

    “We still have to do a lot of things on the selling side,” Klopp told the Liverpool Echo. “We don’t want to have 500 players in the squad.

    “We’re in a good way. We don’t need to make another three or four signings, maybe one more, maybe not.

    “There’s been a lot of planning. It’s like a puzzle. That’s how building a squad works.

    “We have already bought seven players. That’s a big number, it’s not that we haven’t been active in the transfer market. It’s all about balance.”

  77. Doublethink

    If Kolo hadn’t just gone to Celtic he could of been an option, does anyone know if Squillaci’s available on a free?

  78. WengerEagle

    Samesong

    True.

    I’m not expecting him to score 17 goals and rack up 11 assists or anything, he was the best player in the BPL last season IMO but the level he was playing at surely isn’t sustainable. Just like Vardy I expect a little bit of a drop from him next season.

    I think that he should be aiming for double figures in goals and assists this season, those would still be top class numbers.

    Hopefully Xhaka can afford him the same freedom that Kante did, big ask mind.

  79. Leedsgunner

    The funniest comment I’ve read about the Mertesacker injury…

    “Mertesacker is so concerned about the lack of signings he’s gone and injured himself to bring one in … that’s commitment to the cause, what a proper captain.”

    LMAO. 🙂

  80. Samesong

    WE

    He will easily hit double figures reason being he takes penalties, freekicks and likes the odd special goal from time to time. Only injuries will stop this guy. He did drop towards the end of the season but thats understandable the amount of games he played.

  81. WengerEagle

    N5

    Yeah it’s a little strange that Allen has been the only significant exit from Liverpool so far besides a few fringe players. Skrtel and Toure too but neither were starters.

    Would be surprised to see any of Markovic, Benteke, Balotelli, Moreno, Illori, Ings or Luis Alberto still there in September.

  82. gnarleygeorge9

    Just listened to Talksport to the Gooners phone in re Arsene Wenger. Excellent entertainment & I’m even “prouder to say that name”. Well done to all who were involved.

    I always thought Stan’s surname was pronounced Cranky, but its pronounced Conky apparently. And the coke bottle glasses on Bubbles could be Wenger circa 1997 ?

  83. salparadisenyc

    Klopps been quite busy

    In

    – Sadio Mane
    -Klaven
    -Matip
    -Wijnaldum

    Two keepers

    – The Welsh Pirlo has gone to Stoke (good signing Hughes).
    – Kolo to Celtic
    – Balo anywhere
    – Benteke on market
    – Skrtel to Fenerbache
    – Jordon Ibe to Bournmouth
    – Canos to Norwich

    Loaned a few more out w/ Sakho sent home from tour not for injury.

  84. Carts

    How has Markovic gone from a top prospect from Benfica, to getting twatted around by Brenda to now on the periphery?
    No banter, but there’s a really good player in there.

    But yeah, with Liverpool already raising circa £35m with the sale of 4 players already, you could probably factor in a further £70m from the likes of Lucas, Markovic, Balotelli,Moreno, Benteke.

    I wonder what’s up with Sakho -_-

  85. Carts

    Mert out for 5 months? Grade 2 ACL tear?

    Wenger better not embarras himself and do he sensible thing and just go big for Koulibaly or Murillo. Chamber desperately needs a proper run out and Arsenal won’t be the place for him.

    I know very little of Holding.

    Gabriel, who I’m still unsure of needs someone steady beside him.

    The moment I named dropped Koulibaly, 2 weeks later he was on several team’s lips. You’d think scout trawl here to see who knows what, wouldnt you?!

  86. salparadisenyc

    Wenger freed up the wage space left by Arteta, Flamini and Rosicky.

    Hasn’t moved anyone else. Was hoping to these players in the rear view:

    Walcott
    Gibbs
    Chesser
    Campbell
    Sonogo

    Loan
    Jenks
    Akpom
    Chambers

    Forgot Gnabry was even with us.

  87. Carts

    Sal

    It’s hilarious how Wenger can’t help but surround himself with bang average > shit players

    Any other manager worth their salt would’ve got fucken rid asap.

    Wenger in the other hand…nvm, I really can’t. Even trying to rationalise it gives me a head ache

  88. Bamford10

    Just because good television was the discussion yesterday. In no particular order:

    1. Curb Your Enthusiasm (Seasons 3-7)
    2. The Wire (Seasons 1 & 2)
    3. True Detective (Season 1)
    4. Fargo (Season 1)
    5. Law & Order (Seasons 1-9)

    Also, people are saying good things about the new show, “The Night of,” but I haven’t seen it yet.

    And just for fun, five good movies off the top of my head:

    1. The Lives of Others
    2. In Bruges
    3. Four Lions
    4. The Damned United
    5. The Ghost Writer

  89. Champagne charlie

    WE

    Any reason you prefer Lacazette to Yedder? Seem very similar in offerings.

    Who would be your wide alternative, I think Mahrez is the best option of literally anyone. He’s top class’s for me, if he improves further that’s a world class talent if ever I’ve seen one. Just destroys defenders with utter ease, technically so so gifted.

  90. Champagne charlie

    WE

    Completely missed your draxler/Mkhitaryan post… My bad.

    Mahrez better option than both in our side for me. Forget end product for a second, he is unreal with the ball. Would pay good money to watch him weekly.

  91. N5

    Cheers Joe/Samesong I missed that article.

    Eagle, you’re right mate the intention is there to clean them out but my word is it dragging its feet. I can only assume no one wants the scouse shite 😀

  92. Carts

    Fargo 1 & 2 are top shows

    Ray Donovan is another outrageous show. Season 4 is four episodes in.

    Vikings is another good one too, think that at season 4 as well.

  93. Carts

    To be honest, I’d be going hard for Mahrez and Lukaku right now.

    Wouldn’t bother with Lacazette. He’s ok. Just seems like Wenger is taking the “cheaper approach” once again. Although the price on Lukaku’s head will probably be double what Everton paid.

  94. Medu

    I agree with everything you’ve stated here, except one. Can you please stop hammering that Lacazette didn’t make the France squad over Giroud and Gignac. That’s the manager’s choice. Doesn’t in any way imply that he is not better than Giroud and Gignac. He is faster and a better finisher than Giroud could ever be. I would prefer to have someone better than Lacazette, but please leave the France squad thing alone already