Arsenal embarrassingly called out by Lyon for low-balling

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Arsenal have been embarrassingly called out by Lyon over their derisory bid for Lacazette earlier on in the summer.

“The reality is that the club Arsenal made an offer worth 35m euros (£29m), which Lyon did not follow up on for one reason: OL will keep Alexandre Lacazette who is irreplaceable and who is one of the main leaders in Bruno Genesio’s squad.”

The way Lyon work is that all players are transferable. Their owner, Jean-Michel Aulas, sold some serious assets back in the day when Lyon were the dominant force in French football (Diarra to Madrid / Essien to Chelsea). Every player is transferable, the money he gets for his stars is ploughed back into finding more gems to sell. Something went wrong in their approach, much like Arsenal’s plus PSG came to party, which led to a demise.

So, point here is Lyon will sell if we pay.

The fact Arsenal are dropping bids that are lower than West Ham says a lot. The fact we’re even in for Lacazette says a lot. He’s a West Ham striker at best, and we’re dropping lowball bids to find value in a market where we don’t need to be doing so.

Lacazette didn’t make the French squad that Giroud and Gignac did. He couldn’t make their squad, at 25 years old, when Martial did and Benzema was bombed out. He’s no spring chicken, he could only manage 17 goals last year. He’s a punt on a player who is probably not going to blow up the world football scene.

What are we doing here?

Arsene Wenger has shown a few things over the past 4 or 5 seasons. The main one being that as an economist, he’s really lacking.

He missed a few of the important modules coming through university.

#1 Supply and demand. If there is not enough supply to meet the demand, then prices go up. A lack of world class strikers is NOT a new issue. The reasons fees are so high is because there is a scarcity of talent.

#2 Inflation is and has been a thing in football since the nineties. We’re looking at almost 30% a season. Quick and fast rule here… if TV deals go up, so do player wages and player prices.

Suarez £40m >>> 1 season later £70m

Higuain ‘we don’t see the value in £32m’ >>> 3 seasons later goes for £92m

You can’t fight it. It is what it is. No one cares what you think about valuations. They’re going up for everyone. If you can’t keep up, get out.

#3 Player inflation greatly outstrips interest rates. Keeping cash in the bank actually costs Arsenal money. In 3 years, has our cash pile brought in £60m revenue? Of course it hasn’t. Like saving for a house in the UK, if your wages don’t match the hike in house prices, your deposit pile grows every year, but it becomes worth less.

Instead of dithering, back a horse.

We’re entering the year of the £100m player. Why? Because football is not a bubble. We’ve been saying it for years as people were predicting mass bankruptcies of clubs, that as long as the money keeps pouring in, there will be no end to this gravy train. Football is a global product, the Premier League is just getting started when it comes to exploiting the opportunities.

Pissing around with tier 2 players like Lacazette is not how you win in this game. We need to go harder, get smarter and accept that it’s no longer paying a premium to go £40m on a striker, it’s going for the cheap option.

FINAL POINT: A lot of people say that Arsene and Ivan are right to keep their negotiations private for players.

Here’s the thing, if the whole of Europe knows 1) We have loads of money 2) Our idea of value means 1997 prices that are basically ripping off clubs… we’re not going to do too well out of them.

Everyone knows our transfer strategy is based on Wenger unearthing a gem he can show off about. It used to work, now any CEO in world football who has Wenger bidding for his player will know that we’re not paying enough.

Right, that’s me done. OVER AND OUT.

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  1. Jonraid

    Our only hope is to cast Welbeck’s legs in gold and hope he lasts a full season. Otherwise, Sanchez plays upfront and bring in a decent CB to replace Mertesacker, which may be a cheaper option.

  2. Jonraid

    The reason AW and Ivan are keeping negotiation private is that they know it’s embarrassing if their bid amounts go public. Two average jokers trying to play poker in the big league.

  3. Romford Ozil Pele

    Lacazette bid was made before we activated Vardy’s release clause. Sky Sports News have also just confirmed it. Why are Lyon only announcing it now? Playing games. They also have interest in Ben Yedder. We’ll see how it plays out

  4. karim

    ROP
    Interesting to note that Aulas said Tolisso ” is staying with us ” like 3 weeks ago.
    Hope it’s the same strategy with Lacazette.

  5. Henry Root

    After Lacazette our next target appears to be Ben Yedder of Toulouse who is available for £10 mill( but we are bidding 8!) Seville are in for him and they do know a prospect as their recruitment shows, but why not look at Gameiro at Seville who tore Liverpool to bits in May. If we sign Ben Yedder and he is our only forward recruit , it underlines how cheap Jack we’ve become and how out of touch the club is with the market. Wenger sells players high but never expects anyone to charge him a large fee. I would forget all hope of Mahrez and a new CB will be off the remaindered pile- De Michelis is on a free. He’s our man!

  6. Jaffa

    I can’t see wenger buying a CB, more likely Chambers , Gabriel , Holding to cover and Monreal as back up again. The bid for Lacazette is embarrising and shows how serious AFC are about winning period.

  7. WengerEagle

    City are signing Gabriel Jesus apparently, word in Brazil is that he’s the more talented of the two Gabriel’s (Gabriel Barbosa).

    Sane as well?

    Where do Sterling, Silva and De Bruyne fit into this new Citeh side is my question.

  8. Me

    Arsenal will go into the season with two recognized first team central defenders and one pile of crap first team striker.

    Can some please explain to me why there is no uproar about this?

    Why isn’t pressure being applied on that idiot to spend money and actually do what he is paid £8 million a year to do.

    Wenger is a lazy bastard who offers Arsenal NOTHING except a lack of ambition and pathetic excuses.

    He will end up making a last minute signing of a piece of crap like Kallstrom and Santos.

    If he cannot do the job or lacks the ambition to sign players then he can fuck off and let someone else in who will – really, this is the most pathetically laughable situation in world football.

    The same CRAP every year from a washed up old fossil living on success from 12 years ago..

    Arsenal are a joke..

  9. Henry Root

    Karim
    Thanks but my point is why weren’t we in for him. We have a merry go round of strikers and we end up with the turnip.

  10. Leedsgunner

    Clearly Arsene thinks more highly of himself than other clubs think of him.

    So deluded is he in his self perception that he doesn’t understand why other clubs just don’t gush and give into his demands… whenever he comes knocking, as if it should be a privilege that he should want to deal with them at all.

    That’s why he starts off with such low starting points. Don’t they know it is the GREAT ARSENE WENGER that they are speaking to? Don’t they know who he is!?!

    Then when the respondents don’t give in, Wenger feels insulted and walks away. In his mind though, it is a job done because at least he tried to sign them!

  11. PV4

    CHEAPSKATES!! Only Arsenal could behave in such an incredibly tightfisted way. Ben Yedder? Who the f**k is he? Typical cheap, desperate and more fuel for the already hysterical boo boys.

  12. salparadisenyc

    “Has a good goalscoring record but is he not just a watered down version of Lacazette?”

    Sounds like a goer to me with Wenger in mind.

  13. WengerEagle

    Higuain is an amazing capture for Juventus, can’t believe they’ve pulled it off after already signing Pjanic, Alves, Pjaca (incredible talent) and Benatia.

    Even if they lose Paul Pogba, they’ll definitely be UCL contenders IMO.

    Higuain’s goals will be that huge a boost to them.

  14. Leedsgunner

    Mertesacker’s injury makes no difference. If he didn’t strengthen with a striker in light of Welbeck’s injury in May last year, he won’t strengthen with a CB now, despite having time to do so.

    He will of course blame bad luck when things go wrong. The only aspect that is new about Arsenal’s transfer policy every year are the new ways to “spin” the same tired excuses.

  15. emmanuel

    your points are right. with arsenal’s and Wenger’s disposition to transfers clubs don’t take arsenal serious any longer nd even average players are now snubbing us as if arsenal was now Sunderland or Aston villa. I can bet on it, Wenger will cry in the dugout from august 13th when our rivals who have adequately strengthened their squads start beating us silly. I fear for the worst.

  16. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    Juventus have reached an agreement for Gabigol as well, but they now need to reach agreements with third party owners, supposedly getting a bid ready for Matic as well.

    Saying to RP on the last post, Juventus just show you how you do transfer windows.

  17. N5

    Sakho sent home from Liverpool tour due to disciplinary reasons! Klopp will not stand for any funny business will he!!

    I’m fucking ashamed that yet again Arsenal are in the news for low balling a team. We have made headlines twice this window and both have been shameful to the supporters.

    Couldn’t secure Vardy, offered Lyon pennies + 1.

  18. Leedsgunner

    Remember lads the £29m bid for Lacazette went in from the same man who told us with a straight face that he wasn’t afraid to spend big for the right players.

    It sure looks like it doesn’t it?

    Ben Yedder is just a face saving measure just to say he got somebody.

    Our transfer policy is a mess. It’s a case study of how NOT to conduct a transfer window.

  19. bishop

    Ben Yedder is just a face saving measure just to say he got somebody.

    This is not even done yet and might not even happen…..

    WENGER is horrible

  20. WengerEagle

    CA

    Definitely, Higuain signing in particular is a huge statement of intent, basically says yeah we’re losing Pogba for a €100 million+ profit but we’re still going to dominate as we’re adding by far the best striker in the country.

    I’d honestly fancy them as a punt in the UCL provided they can keep the rest of their squad together and only lose Pogba (Cuadrado back to Chelsea too).

    Gabigol gives them even more exciting options up front, would imagine Mandzukic will probably want out now though.

  21. salparadisenyc

    Pretty apparent to most when a player the stature of a Vardy snubs his nose at the club. Arsenal are most definitely on a downward trajectory until the powers that be make a change.

    I’m fully expecting a non renewal from Ozil and Sanchez.

  22. Champagne charlie

    Romford

    It was a rebuttal to a publication claiming we had bid 40mil today; Lyon came out and said that’s not true and that we only had one bid way back of 29mil which they refused.

    Since that bid we went for Vardy and now here we are…. So idk where things are with our ST targets

  23. Leedsgunner

    Bishop

    It doesn’t matter that it’s not done. To Wenger to have tried to sign for a player is just as valid as making an actual signing.

  24. salparadisenyc

    Somebody posted on here a couple days back whats pretty much a metaphor for the current mind set.

    “United are willing to take the entire TV revenue and invest it in one player, where as Arsenal seem content spending 30% of it whilst the rest goes to bank.”

    Until that changes were pretty fucked where the league’s concerned.

  25. Redtruth

    It’s not Wenger that’s living off the success of 12 years ago but Arsenal supporters…if it were not so he would have been booted out years ago..

  26. N5

    OMG Eagle yes. I managed to suppress that away for a bit. We should be used to making fools of ourselves by now really.

  27. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    Yeah, losing Pogba, but fully reinvesting and then some…imagine the situation here if that happened.

    F**k me we all as fans deserve one decent window, total shower of shit this is, maybe it will be next summer.

  28. Redtruth

    WengerEagle

    Higuain an amazing capture for Juventus..lol

    Higuain won’t win Juventus the Champions league so a pointless capture….Juve dominate Serie A so Higuain will add nothing..

  29. PV4

    @salparadisenyc – that’s because Manu have ambition and want to win the league at whatever cost it takes. Us, on the other hand – well, we just want to rake in as much money as possible for Kroenke and fuck over our supporters in the process. Compare our squad to Juve – apparently a team with less revenue than us, and it is crystal clear that our competitive winning edge disappeared with the invincibles.

  30. naijagunner

    “Higuain won’t win Juventus the Champions league so a pointless capture….Juve dominate Serie A so Higuain will add nothing..”

    I was thinking the same thing myself, what exactly was the point of this outrageous outlay, they were already going to win Serie A as it stands, I am with Red on this one

  31. Up 4 grabs now

    N5/Eagle

    If you think that’s bad do you remember we wouldn’t pay Fulham the 500,000 extra they wanted for Mark schwarzter and was stuck with almunia!!!!

  32. STV

    “He couldn’t make their squad, at 25 years old, when Martial did and Benzema was bombed out. He’s no spring chicken, he could only manage 17 goals last year. He’s a punt on a player who is probably not going to blow up the world football scene.”

    Thank you Pedro!! Thats some sensible analysis. Oh wait, We are actually looking for Yedders who’d make Lacazette looks like dream target!! Fuck.

  33. DUIFG

    Haven’t been on here for some time. Basically came to the point whereby my life’s energy is better spent elsewhere. Expecting wenger to change is a futile pursuit. He has taken the enjoyment out of arsenal for me, as he himself gave up trying long ago.

    We are a disgrace, wenger is willingly negligent. We continue with low ball bids which make a mockery of the club.The penny has now dropped with the wider footballing world, even if we offer enough players are reticent to join a busted flush of a manger ( mikki, vardy):

    We are now watching the end of a regime, it will be incredibly painful.

    Don’t get too invested folks.

  34. STV

    “Higuain won’t win Juventus the Champions league so a pointless capture….Juve dominate Serie A so Higuain will add nothing..”

    It’s called AMBITION in case you didn’t know, They are not aiming for Champions league, not resting on their laurels!!

  35. qna

    Price paid for Higuain is ridiculous. More than Neymar and Suarez? And at his age? Give me a break. We at Arsenal have plenty to complain about but this Higuain deal is not that. Leave this one through to the keeper.

    Honestly the Gabigol to Juve deal is more upsetting to me.

  36. STV

    We know Wenger would replace Fabregas with Arteta and Nasri with Gervinho..

    And then he talk about Ambition

    That’s the real trolling lol..

  37. Gunnershabz

    The worse thing is now we going to be competing with Napoli trying to sign a striker and I bet they will get him before us

    Juventus shown ruthlessness in the market and we just doing nothing

  38. DivineSherlock

    People losing shit over Lacazette. We dont even know when that bid was made . Could probably be before the Euros , smh . This confirms atleast that we are actively trying to sign a ST .

  39. salparadisenyc

    Eagle

    That Juve lineup is going to compete with anybody this season.
    Pretty fantastic side.

    Throw in the sub options:

    Mario Mandzukic, Hernanes, Alex Sandro, Benatia, Pjaca, Simone Zaza, Stephan Lichtsteiner.

  40. Emiratesstroller

    Arsenal are running out of time to buy a decent striker.

    This should have been the first transfer done by Arsenal this summer. You would have thought that we would have learned that lesson from the debacle
    when we failed to buy both Higuain and Suarez four summers ago.

    If you leave that acquisition too late the likelihood is that you will land up with
    no-one. Lyon will only sell Lacazette if a] we offer a decent price and b] they
    find a replacement.

    The later you leave it the less likely it will happen. That will also apply to most
    other strikers that we could be interested in.

    My view is that Arsenal’s budget for a squad striker is no more than £10-25 million.

    We have to buy now a decent Centre Back as well and that may also impact on
    overall budget and planning this summer.

    As usual I see Arsenal falling short of its transfer business. The way we conduct and plan it is awful.

  41. naijagunner

    Spending 73.5m pounds to sign a striker you don’t even urgently need is not called ambition , it’s called weakening the opposition. They already have Serie A wrapped up before it even starts

    Higuain has scored 13 goals in 55 UCL appearances, not exactly a worldie on the UCL stage , so if they are not aiming to win the UCL what exactly is the ambition for?..another serie A title ?

  42. tunnygriffboy

    If Tolisso is going to Napoli we’ve blown the Lacazette chance. No way is he leaving as well unless he creates a stink . Dithering, low bids. Ii’m seriously f.cked off.

    What on earth are we doing ? Can somebody please tell me? I’m starting to feel physically sick. I really love my club. I’m starting to feel like a Stoke supporter. No, sorry that’s not fair at least they are actively trying to do the best they can with their financial resources.

    Mid table for us this season and we seriously lack any leaders and players that can tough it out

    I ask again please what is going on ?

    Vardy no Lacazette no Draxler no Mahrez no Lacazette no Yedder no Turan no Lacazette no ……………….

  43. Jeff

    Wow, Lyon turned us down because we didn’t offer enough. This isn’t even deja-vu any more. It’s like we’re stuck in an infinite loop in the matrix. Neo, please help!

  44. STV

    “Spending 73.5m pounds to sign a striker you don’t even urgently need is not called ambition , it’s called weakening the opposition.”

    Another mugvinspired by Wenger theories..

  45. GoonerEris

    Most fail to read the article fully before going on a Wenger – hate rant. The question we need to ask is why OLyon is only just bringing this story up, over one month after the said bid, to coincide with the release of club results on the stock exchange. Aulas has a reputation as a president who uses the media to play games or start a bidding war. In any case, as a first bid, it is only intended to invite negotiations. Maybe, for once, OL really do not wish to sell and Wenger has moved on to other targets. Some of the Posts here give the impression Wenger put in the bid today.
    The suggestion that Lacazzette is somehow, below Arsenal grade and can’t win us the title is laughable, after what Leicester just did with Vardy, Drinkwater and Kante. Sometimes, it is not just how much you spend on players that wins trophies. Togetherness and spirit can give the same result.

  46. STV

    “so if they are not aiming to win the UCL what exactly is the ambition for”

    Really how did you reach that conclusion??

  47. Jim Lahey

    “outI ask again please what is going on ?”

    Wenger doesn’t want to spend, he doesn’t want to compete. He will derisive bids for players as he knows they will be laughed away.

  48. N5

    “This confirms atleast that we are actively trying to sign a ST .”

    Sherlock, is it trying to sign a striker if you keep offering well under the valuation? it’s a chancer move by Dick(head) Law and Wenger.

  49. WengerEagle

    Naija

    His European record for Napoli is very good, was in Real Madrid where probably half or more of those were sub apps that he couldn’t score for toffee.

    Sanchez’s UCL record for Barcelona was pathetic.

  50. Doublethink

    Gabriel Jesus looks the much better of the two in my opinion, he’s more explosive and a lot more aggressive/committed.
    I think people are underrated Lacazette a bit or at least Pedro is, I don’t think the gap between him and someone like Aubameyang is that big at all.

  51. DivineSherlock

    Jim Lahey

    For all we know , maybe we are looking for someone to play on the right Mahrez or Rodriguez.

  52. STV

    Jim I think Wengers want to send the message that Lacazette will not be available before he swoops Me Yedder as the solution for all our striking option

    So that’s all sorted.

  53. Joe

    Wenger said 3 years ago higuain at 32m
    Was not good value as no
    Resale value

    Smart cookie
    Wenger is and his Cracker Jack
    Economics degree

  54. Marc

    Pedro

    Long winded post to say Wenger’s got old. He’s living in a past when life was good, politicians were honest, children respected their elders and footballer’s were realistically priced.

    Car crash of a season on it’s way.

  55. naijagunner

    @ Wenger

    If you say so, but those numbers don’t strike fear into me

    The only upside in this for Juve is that they get to pay in two years, lessens the impact on their finances

    Between how come that Milik guy is suddenly worth 35 million euros, the transfer market this season has gone a bit bonkers, football clubs need to take a long hard look at themselves

  56. Redtruth

    Sanchez is not a striker while Higuain is..

    Juventus are obviously want to win the Champions league but they are deluded if they think Higuain is the answer…

  57. Jam

    Per out for 5 months..
    Even the universe is trying to tell Wenger and Ivan that the options we have in defence are not enough “to compete to win the premier league”.

  58. naijagunner

    And please let’s all bear in mind that the 29m pound bid came in earlier in the window, i do not know whats embarrassingly low about it . Aulas is up to something leaking that now and we will soon discover what his game is

    In a normal sane market , 29m is too much for Lacazette,the guy is nothing special

  59. salparadisenyc

    “Juventus are obviously want to win the Champions league but they are deluded if they think Higuain is the answer”

    They tried to sign Alan Smith, but he apparently turned them down due to fact his prostate’s a bit inflamed and the Sky money’s big.

  60. DivineSherlock

    N5

    But how can you say we haven’t tried hard ??
    Our first bid got rejected , they said the player is not for sale , right ? You want to believe we low balled them but dont want to believe that he wasnt for sale , very convenient.

  61. N5

    “In a normal sane market , 29m is too much for Lacazette,the guy is nothing special”

    But the market is normal and sane so the rest of your comment is irrelevant.

  62. Joe

    Red. Who cares how much they pay

    Or if united pay 100m
    For pogba

    Not our money.

    It’s like
    Some
    Did spending 500k
    On a Ferrari. Not my money. Good for him.

    Good on Juve. Good on United.

    But let’s be happy we are signing what’s his. Name
    For 8m.

    He will be a good servant to Arsenal
    In
    Our chase for 4th

  63. N5

    Joe, someone mentioned it the other day. It’s only Arsenal fans that obsess over the cost of players/wages. No other club is as fixated on money as us.

  64. Jeff

    Arsene is always about 3 to 4 years behind the market curve. He’s perpetually living in the past. The only trouble is nobody has the balls to tell him “what the fuck are you doing – get it done or fuck off”. Terrified of hurting his fragile feelings, nobody says anything and we just carry on.

  65. N5

    “You want to believe we low balled them but dont want to believe that he wasnt for sale , very convenient.”

    Every single player has a price. If we seriously wanted him we could make it happen.

  66. N5

    “Thank you pointing that out Mr relevant”

    Wow, Naija I was under the impression you were a man so a little confused by your bitchy reply.

    Your comment was irrelevant so there is no need to be snipy. You said in a sane market £29m is to much. Is the market sane? no? so what was your point again?

  67. STV

    “It’s only Arsenal fans that obsess over the cost of players/wages. No other club is as fixated on money as us.”

    True N5 really annoying. Obviously the financial aspects are very important but frankly it’s shouldn’t concern a fan!!

  68. Joe

    N5

    I don’t get it one bit. Wenger has brainwashed so many people
    And most of the one Making a fuss about it are ones that don’t even go to
    Games so it’s really not their money

    Wenger has ruined Arsenal in
    So
    Many ways.

  69. naijagunner

    It;s called Value not fixation on price or whatever you might like to call it.

    Why should anyone pay 42m pounds for Lacazette just because the market has gone crazy, you same guys here saying pay the money will be the same bunch pointing out how much he cost when he goes on a goal drought just like we can’t stop being told how much Walcott is paid and how much it translates to per goal

  70. N5

    STV, I get it when Arsenal fans moan about the money we’re sitting on and not investing but I’m so confused as to why they care how much a player is costing another club?

    I know my comment is hypocritical because I moan about Theo’s wages, but that’s because he’s not very good. However I would never complain about paying a competent player 140 per week.

  71. naijagunner

    “Wow, Naija I was under the impression you were a man so a little confused by your bitchy reply.”

    There you go again looking for who to trade words with then later you come out and ask for posters to trace the source of whatever argument you heat up

    Bitchy reply, i will try telling you when next you say something irrelevant and i will await your bouquet of flowers as a thank you

  72. N5

    Naija if a player is playing well who gives a toss how much he costs? if he’s overpaid and warming a bench of course people are going to moan.

    Funny that you can’t see the difference.

  73. salparadisenyc

    Can’t just bury head in the sand because the markets inflated.

    Fact: Arsenal have the biggest cut of TV revenue from this past season 2015-16.

  74. N5

    “There you go again looking for who to trade words with then later you come out and ask for posters to trace the source of whatever argument you heat up

    Bitchy reply, i will try telling you when next you say something irrelevant and i will await your bouquet of flowers as a thank you”

    No idea what you are talking about? are you drunk?

  75. Redtruth

    WengerEagle
    “His European record for Napoli is very good, was in Real Madrid where probably half or more of those were sub apps that he couldn’t score for toffee”

    Napoli playing in the Europa league against teams like Young Boys is the reason for Higuain’s slight improvement in front of goal…

  76. naijagunner

    I was under the impression i was having a conversation with N5 so i don’t kmow who this other fella is asking to be noticed.

    @ N5

    29m was an opening bid, there is nothing wrong with that, the player in question had no buy out clause so i do not know what makes it a low ball offer . As it stands he is not exactly the most wanted striker in the market

  77. salparadisenyc

    Not sure why all the Lacazette hate, in past two seasons he’s scored 54 out of 84 appearances. Sure a small slice of those are from the pk spot but can’t deny his ability to find net.

    He’d walk into our starting XI ahead of Giroud offering a more direct route to L’Oreal’s hold up gig. Deshchamps built that side to maximize Griezmann, hence Giroud getting the starting birth. Was a mistake to take Gignac ahead of Lacazette imo.

  78. N5

    Naija, I’m not sure why you thought I was being confrontational with you. Me saying the comment is irrelevant isn’t a dig at you, it’s a dig at the situation. Why did you take that personally?

  79. naijagunner

    “No idea what you are talking about? are you drunk?’

    I do not do alcohol , never have never will

    I was pointing out your habit of dismissing what other’s have to say at times and when called up on it coming out fighting, then when the poster gets deep into the war of words you started you cry foul

    But that’s by the way anyway, the talk is boring me now and some fool is trying to use it as an avenue to be noticed , shameless

  80. John T.

    I’ll post what I’ve posted for the past 8 years. Until this washed up old man, Arsene Wenger, is sitting on a chair in France this team will finish 4th and get eliminated every year in CL. He was done 8 years ago and could care less about winning.

  81. DivineSherlock

    N5

    The difference is that Pedro says hes a West Ham level player , If hes such level then is it really a surprise we started our bidding low ?

  82. Redtruth

    salparadisenyc
    “Can’t just bury head in the sand because the markets inflated.”

    Lukakku vslued at £60m..

    I think i will go and bury my head in the sand…

  83. N5

    “I was pointing out your habit of dismissing what other’s have to say at times and when called up on it coming out fighting, then when the poster gets deep into the war of words you started you cry foul”

    ?????

  84. naijagunner

    “Not sure why all the Lacazette hate, in past two seasons he’s scored 54 out of 84 appearances. Sure a small slice of those are from the pk spot but can’t deny his ability to find net.”

    Am sure one can ask why all the Ben Yedder hate as well. he also finds the net and has been doing so for four seasons now for a team worse than Lyon, and is the same age as Lacazette

    Or is it to do with the price tag??…should we offer 40m before you also consider his own ability to find the net??

  85. N5

    Sherlock. If it was just Lacazette no, but it’s every single time with us. We low ball every one and Dick seems to be unable to match a players valuation.

    The only times we see them meet the valuation is when a team has decided they want to move a player on. I can’t remember the last time we went in for somone of note and then got them.

  86. DivineSherlock

    Im with RedTruth on Higuain, hes a bottler if I ever saw a bigger one , with that age and price in mind its surely foolish. Damn sure Dortmund would’ve sold Aubameyang, isnt he better than Higuain ?

  87. tunnygriffboy

    Emirates

    We did try for a striker early doors. The plan was there. Vardy. I think Wenger was totally shocked that he decided not to come. It really threw him.

    There was no plan B. He’s now gone all Vicky Pollard, “yes but no but yes but no”

  88. Cesc Appeal

    The thing that is really irritating is all the people coming out with this exasperation at the criticism of Arsenal’s transfer performance and targets are literally ignoring history, they’re going off on one as if all criticisms are irrational, essentially saying ‘come on guys Arsenal always do well in the window,’ ‘Arsenal never make a habit of low balling,’ ‘Arsenal never target lesser wanted, lesser quality signings,’ ‘Arsenal never arrive in the season with big holes in their squad.’ As you cannot say any of that, find it irritating that you find criticisms of Arsenal’s transfer approach irritating.

  89. naijagunner

    “I can’t remember the last time we went in for somone of note and then got them.”

    Then you should be indifferent to what’s happening now since you are apparently used to it .

  90. N5

    “Then you should be indifferent to what’s happening now since you are apparently used to it”

    It never stops being frustrating though, regardless of how often it happens.

  91. Barking Arsene

    “Why should anyone pay 42m pounds for Lacazette just because the market has gone crazy”

    Because we didn’t buy Higuain at 32m and now he has been sold for more than double that.

    The market hasn’t gone crazy – it just sees above normal levels of inflation. We (and all clubs) have to deal with that.

    In fact, if we were to sell a player we would benefit from the market also. Works both ways.

    We low balled OL – fine – worth a shot – but let’s now go back in and pay what they are asking if they won’t budge.

  92. Romford Ozil Pele

    CA, I put it in the last post and earlier up but the bid came before we activated Vardy’s release clause. West Ham bid for him after we did. They’re trying to drive up the price for him because they know the player wants to leave.

    What is interesting is their chase for Ben Yedder is now public the same day Arsenal have been linked to the same player. There’s a lot of posturing but I really can’t be asked with it. Just pay what they want and be done with it. We can make money back through sales.

  93. naijagunner

    “We are delighted to announce the signing of Jacob Torres, Alex Idolor, and Christopher Escobar from @ChildrensLA!”

    Top banter from Chelsea , their fans were expecting a huge announcement,….someone has a sick sense of humor over there

  94. DivineSherlock

    N5

    One important point you’re forgetting , Lacazette has no release clause . If he was for sale , would Lyon come out with that statement ? why didnt they accept West Ham bid of 45million? Was that not proper valuation ? Pedro is unnecessary slamming the club for doing the right thing , which was the opening bid for Lacazette . If he was for sale then Arsenal would’ve gone with an improved bid, most likely.

  95. STV

    Imagine a frontline starring Sanogo Giroud Yedders Asano…

    Those names alone Should strike fear in to teams ..

    Can’t wait for the season to begin.

  96. Cesc Appeal

    Arsenal have no problem following the market when it comes to ticket pricing, see Wenger’s comments last season when pressed, Arsenal have no issue at all accepting the extra £50 Million a year from the inflated TV deals, Arsenal have no problem raking in the most match day revenue of any side all relying on the ridiculous influx of cash into the football machine…suddenly grow principles when it comes to spending though, thank goodness, for the morality of the club.

  97. Jim Lahey

    “Won’t it be glorious if there are announcing they have signed Mahrez”

    Would mean Arsenal not signing a player they need, you would love that alright!