Per Mertesacker jabs Wenger with totally fair comment

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HAPPY SUNDAY D-BAGS. I went to a ‘pool party’ yesterday in New Jersey. The house was like something out of American Pie (the story of rich white kids leading sexually dysfunctional lives).  How was the house funded? By a guy who owns the portaloo scene around these parts.

Amazing. Your next idea to make you rich DOES NOT have to be a wellness app that relieves dogs anxiety.

ANYWAY. What have we today?

PER MERTESACKER:

“The way last season went, we were quite lucky to finish second,” the 31-year-old told The Sun. “We turned things around at the end but it was kind of a miracle we finished runners-up.

Thank the lord someone said it. Wenger and the PR department have busied themselves this summer trying to convince Arsenal fans last year was some sort of success.

‘When you look at the facts’

Oh please Arsene…

Per nails it right there. It was a miracle. The least deserved second we’ve had in a while. Sandwiched by two teams who have considerably less spending power than us.

Also, just so you know, Per Mertesacker is a very smart guy. He, like plenty of others at Arsenal, know Wenger is a joke and he knows the team is totally not prepared for next season. 1) because our preseason will be looking EXACTLY the same as the last 20 under Wenger. 2) because we haven’t done our business early enough.

I think he nails Wenger with a subtle barb here…

‘A lot of transfer business has already been done and it won’t be easy for us this time, especially with all the signings going to the other clubs.’

Nice one Per. You, like me, like EVERY Arsenal fan who has been following the game for longer than 13 seconds, knows that we have totally bodged the summer so far.

Another German, Rapha Honigstein, spoke about Wenger, saying…

‘It’s almost impossible to understand how Arsene Wenger’s mind works. I think his problems are deeper than just players’

It suits Arsene Wenger for people to think he’s always two players away from dominance, forgetting how many more ingredients go into a Champions League winning melting pot. Wenger isn’t two players away from winning the league, he’s a different philosophy away from winning it.

Alexis Sanchez is pushing Arsenal to move for Barca star Arda Turan. Would be an interesting move and he’d slip right into our transfer strategy of signing great players who drop out of big clubs. Keep an eye on that one, in our situation, which is… “NOOOOO WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO ANOTHER SUMMER”, we’ll be bang up for making moves like that in late August after losing two out of three of our opening games.

Finally, Higuain has jumped ship and gone to Juventus… cash rich Juventus. Another striker bites the dust.

‘BUT WHO COULD EVER HAVE BOUGHT A STRIKER IN SUCH TROUBLED TIMES’

Big clubs can. Big clubs who identify problems early, make moves early and win things. e94m though, mad money. I am literally SO GLAD Arsene Wenger told Madrid to do one when they upped his price by 10m to 32m way back when. Smart business sense, you can’t be paying a premium in the market for rare commodities. That’s just bad economics, and Wenger has an economics degree don’t you know?

James Rodriguez makes Real Madrid £9m a year in advertising. That’s interesting, right? I know he’s defensively weak, but jeez, who isn’t at Arsenal? Let’s sign him. Just because he’s fancy.

ANYWAY. Over and out. See you tomorrow. x

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  1. Arsene's Nurse

    Bamford10
    July 25, 2016 11:53:36

    Thank God you’re here, Nurse.
    ——————————————
    After last season I decided to take a big break from it all. I still have a read of Le-Grove and a brief perusal of the comments, but it’s pretty repetitive. I don’t like the transfer windows because we rarely ever have something to get excited about.

    Xhaka is a good signing, but we need so much more to improve and for fans to get geed up. I’d love to see Mahrez come in and Walcott/Oxo out. It would solve that side of the pitch nicely. Problem is we still need that all elusive striker.

  2. PessimisticPat

    CescAppeal

    Thats the main reason i didnt go last year. They are still pretending we have no money when even a class A wanker like me can do a bit of math and see they are talking absolute shit. Pussification is a nice way of putting it. But it is defintiely disingenuous to say that we have no money to spend. And frankly disrespectful to the fans who spend a fortune to watch them week in week out.

    And your right about our frugality. Thats why i posted my little financial bit above. Cause i am literally losing my shit every window we dont buy anyone. Thats the way us fans see the extra money. For the good of the club. where its needed, and it wouldnt cost anything or endanger us as you said. Just make us competitive.

    However its like you said, “At the end of the day we’re a football club, everything we do is suppose to be aimed at delivering the best possible side on the pitch, whereas at Arsenal, we use the side on the pitch and the fans to deliver the most income possible”

    We are a business to Wenger and Stan now, the sooner they both fuck off the better.

  3. STV

    “..for the first year!”

    Better.

    But it would be only possible from next year if we decided not to touch the money in the bank, by which time player value (wages obviously) will only have increased..

  4. Emiratesstroller

    Arsene’s Nurse

    I phrased it badly. As I have written in past Arsenal factor in an increase in their wage bill.

    In other words it will only impact if there is an increase. This year there could be a decrease if we don’t make any more major signings. The wage bill of Rosicky, Arteta and Flamini was fairly steep. However, we are negotiating with Sanchez, Ozil, Koscielny and Bellerin so that may eat into the figures.

  5. PessimisticPat

    STV

    I dont think you got what i was trying to say in my earlier post. We could spend whatever we wanted and not make a dent over the next 3 years. Thats how rich we are. You talk about increased wages but our wages are currently lower than last year.

    And as you mention the cash in the bank, which currently sits 100m above where it was 5-6 years ago when the board told us that they needed to keep a certain amount in there to keep creditors happy. We could spend that 100m too you know. It is ours after all.

  6. vicky

    Wage increase of 4 players is a paltry figure in the grand scheme of things. I can’t imagine more than 2M increase in wages per year for each of Ozil and Sanchez and possibly maximum 1M increase in wages per year for Koscielney and Bellerin. That’s 6M in total, hardly makes any difference.

  7. Red&White4life

    Juventus takes a huge risk, Higuain is 31 years old, if he gets injured, that’s a lot of money spend for nothing…

  8. TitsMcGee

    This shows you how other clubs takes their transfer business seriously and not dithering like our old wenker did.”

    Wenger’s inactivity and proclamations of “difficulty” to sign players are nothing more than stall tactics of behalf of the French joke.

    He purposefully keeps the squad short so that he has some built-in excuse come the end of the season when(not if, WHEN) we face-plant yet again.

    As Honigstein says in that link in the post by Pedro: “Arsenal are always two players short”

  9. Arsene's Nurse

    Not sure if the formatting works so I’ll test first.

    ||Year Signed||Player||Weekly Wages||Yearly Wages||Bank||
    ||2016||Xhaka||120,000||6,240,000||5||31,200,000||

  10. Daz

    I have a question if anyone can answer for me, is it not in the managers power to be able to reallocate funds from one budget to another?

  11. Arsene's Nurse

    Try again. I hate that there is no preview.

    Year Signed–Player–Weekly Wages–Yearly Wages–Contract left–Bank
    2016————Xhaka——120,000———6,240,000————5————31,2m

  12. BigCheese

    Disgusting really because they know their consumers don’t have a choice, we’re all emotionally invested in Arsenal, you cannot walk away from it…

    Cesc – I never understood this part about sport in general. The emotional investment and passion put into following a club is amazing. How much an individual can feel about a club yet that club sees them as a figure on a spread sheet.

    I’ve never had a season ticket but have frequented both Highbury and The Emirates plenty of times. I’ve bought the replica kits each year and paid for my Sky/BT Sports subscriptions until about 3 seasons ago as it felt none my money ( a drop in the ocean of course) was not being invested in to the club appropriately.

    These days I’ll come on here or Yahoo sports to catch up on results if it’s “big” game or see what’s the gossip on transfers etc.

  13. Steveyg87

    Anyone reckon Wenger still has an ace up his sleeve this summer?

    After Holding was signed, arsenal.com asked for fans to watch this space. Hoping this isn’t BS

  14. Louis Almeida

    Wenger said something about the last few weeks being like poker. Means to me he might be waiting for other moves to materialise before he goes for what he wants. Better than nothing, I guess. But always annoying that our approach doesn’t seem pro-active enough. Xhaka was but those moves are few and far between.

  15. TitsMcGee

    Anyone reckon Wenger still has an ace up his sleeve this summer?”

    When has Wenger ever had an ace up his sleeve?

    Even when we signed Ozil it was a situation of happenstance . Bale moved and Madrid needed to offload him quick.

    Wenger doesn’t strike me as somebody that goes into SW’s with a clear plan / wishlist. It’s a laissez-faire attitude just like anything else.

  16. vicky

    Daz

    Not sure as to what accounts are you referring to but if you are talking about wages, they must be part of operating expenses as this is in accordance to financial reporting standards. As far as allocation for transfers is concerned, apart from our yearly debt obligations, lease obligations , property development and due past transfers amount, there is hardly any item whose budget is specifically categorized and thus can be used for transfers. (There are a few other small items as well but not really significant ).

  17. Cesc Appeal

    So really, given that the AST states we had before the TV deals £60-80 Million to spend a summer comfortably, we left £55 Million of that unspent last year (down the middle at £70 Million for a budget), so that would be £70 Million again this summer, plus the surplus of the 2015 budget, plus the new TV money which is brand new cash for no outlay essentially…Arsenal are swimming in funds to bring in new players.

    Whilst of course we don’t have the financial power United do, and we don’t have the safety net backing Chelsea and City do, the trepidation we display in the market is inexpiable short of a conscious and voluntary choice by the manager who acts as DoF at Arsenal as well in many ways.

    The finances are there, there isn’t a way to explain away the clubs stance by saying we have to be more cautious than most every single other club, we could spend £70 Million on Higuain and it wouldn’t matter, even if he didn’t live up to what we all wanted (he would still likely do better than Giroud I think)…it wouldn’t matter, some people seem to make out we’ve got one shot with one amount of money and then its gone forever…there is no point in letting a transfer window go by without really investing the bulk of the funds available to you that year. Makes no sense at all, in terms of football or finances.

  18. STV

    PP I got you first time. Just saying wages cannot be included in transfer funds. Defeats the purpose of having a Warchest this season or next season..

  19. BigCheese

    Stevey –

    I’m a half glass full kind of guy and I’m of the opinion that we’re done unless Real or Barca need money.

    We’re like an overweight moggie crawling under a grand banquet he’ll table. Hoping for a slice of Turkey to fall.

  20. STV

    “Anyone reckon Wenger still has an ace up his sleeve this summer?”

    Even he he do what’s the best he could get? Lacazette? Meh.

  21. Cesc Appeal

    Wenger might have an ace up his sleeve, but he will keep letting hands go past thinking somewhere down the line there will be a pot where he can use that ace to maximum advantage…whilst everyone else around the table gets richer and we still sit waiting for the perfect moment with no ETA.

  22. Doublethink

    Just think the only two players that have been promoted from within since Wilshere have been by coincidence, if Debuchy never got injured would Bellerin have started more than 10 games by now? Well and everyone knows about Coquelin. My point being that Wenger isn’t this great developer of talent the myth would have you believe.

  23. Alexanderhenry

    Pessimistic

    Yes, in a way it would be good if Wenger left. I think that will happen at the eend of next season.
    Then we’ll see what happens.

  24. Cesc Appeal

    Vicky

    Its clear he’s always liked Draxler, that’s why I thought it was so weird he moved for £25 Million last window and he did nothing, especially considering that summer we spent £10 Million total.

  25. Steveyg87

    We’re like an overweight moggie crawling under a grand banquet he’ll table. Hoping for a slice of Turkey to fall.

    This…

  26. TitsMcGee

    the trepidation we display in the market is inexpiable short of a conscious and voluntary choice by the manager who acts as DoF at Arsenal as well in many ways.”

    Here, here.

  27. Arsene's Nurse

    Damn no that doesn’t work either. Anyway.

    I decided to do a bit of maths regarding how much money Arsenal would have to hold in a separate account if wages were taken from the transfer budget.

    What I did was to look at the major players we’ve bought in the last 4 years and then, based on their initial wage when they signed, work out how much money would currently have to be set aside if they hadn’t signed new deals (assuming a uniform 5 year contract for all).

    So for example Xhaka signed this year so he has a full 5 years left on his contract. His weekly wages are £120k, which is £6.24m a year. For the duration of his contract that works out at £31.2m Arsenal would have to keep for future wages.

    Lets now take Cazorla who signed in 2012. He was on £70k a week, £3.64m a year. Now that would have meant that back in 2012 Arsenal would have had to have set aside £18.2m. But today, in 2016 80% of that money would have been paid so Arsenal would only have 1 years worth of wages in the bank to pay him for this year which would be £3.64m.

    I can’t put the full table in but based on the following estimated wages (remember these were the estimated wages when they signed, not new deals)

    Player—Weekly Wages–Contract left (years)
    Xhaka——-120,000————5
    Cech——–100,000————4
    Elneny——60,000————-4
    Sanchez—-130,000————3
    Chambers -10,000————-3
    Welbeck—100,000————3
    Debuchy—70,000————-3
    Ospina ——40,000————-3
    Ozil———140,000————-2
    Sanogo—–20,000————-2
    Cazorla—–70,000————-1
    Giroud —–80,000————–1
    Monreal—50,000————–1

    Therefore multiplying the weekly wage by 52 to get the yearly salary and then by the number of years left on the original contract (assuming a 5 year contract) it works out that Arsenal would have to have an account with £146.12 million just for those major players.

    Arsenal had cash in the bank of £159m at the half year point. We’d need to borrow money to keep the club going between November and May if transfer money was set aside for wages, but we don’t as the accounts show.

    If you were to do a similar exercise for every other PL club you’d see that the amount of money they would need to set aside for player wages from their transfer budget would be multiples of the cash balances at those clubs. In effect they would be bankrupt if they did this.

  28. raptora

    I don’t care if we end up with someone “offloaded” of the “big” clubs. If Madrid wants to find a team for James or Benzema, I’m pretty sure Wenger will spend the cash without thinking twice. He has done it before – twice! Both Ozil and Alexis are top class, who cares if they got “offloaded”. Gimme more of that “offload” junk if it will be as good as they are. Thing is that we shouldn’t wait entirely on that. But let’s say Wenger and Arsenal have information that Real are waiting on a Auba or Pogba or anyone, and that when this happens they will have either Benzema or James for sell. If you guys were in a position to wait and see if this happens or buy an unproven Lacazette for loads of money and be left without any transfer power till left of the transfer summer just to see how the Benz/James goes to ManC/Chealsea/ManU. Now I think we should go for Marhez no matter what because he is a great winger and top class for me. And yes, waiting on other teams to do their transfer business, while we’re waiting to see who is left for sale is a double-edged sword, cause while we are waiting, the other teams have already landed most of the “hot” players, so we might end up emptyhanded, but you cannot not see the reasoning behind it. It got us Ozil and Alexis thus far, so one might say it works. Problem is that you still have to have a backup option in case what you’re waiting for doesn’t realise. And I’m not saying a backup like Källström or Park, but let’s say we don’t get Benzema and Lacazette is already gone to another club. We should still have plan B and C like RvP, Berbatov, Bony or Chicharito or something. That’s my take on it.

  29. Daz

    Vicky

    Thanks, yeah I was just wondering if we have reduced the wage bill by losing rosicky and so on could that money be used on a transfer if needed as most are paid in installments anyway

  30. Louis Almeida

    “Just think the only two players that have been promoted from within since Wilshere have been by coincidence, if Debuchy never got injured would Bellerin have started more than 10 games by now? Well and everyone knows about Coquelin. My point being that Wenger isn’t this great developer of talent the myth would have you believe.”

    But the developing isn’t always down to the manager. The player has to take the opportunity. Some swim, some sink. Bellerin had a bad debut but he swam afterwards. If anything, Wenger has given too many chances to youngsters IMO.

  31. Red&White4life

    “Anyone reckon Wenger still has an ace up his sleeve this summer?”
    As always… he’s got many. (lol)

  32. vicky

    Not that there is any scope for ambiguity as to whether wages are part of transfer funds but this excerpt will further make it clear. It’s from 2014/15 annual report. You can clearly see staff cost is a constituent of operating cost . If wages were part of our transfer fund which is sort of an equity, the staff cost (wages) would never be shown as a constituent of operating cost.

    4. Operating expenses
    Operating expenses comprise: 2015 2014
    £’000 £’000

    Amortisation of goodwill 416 426
    Amortisation of player registrations 54,430 40,072
    Impairment of player registrations 935 –
    Depreciation and impairment charges
    (less amortisation of grants) 14,618 12,418
    Total depreciation,
    amortisation and impairment 70,399 52,916
    Staff costs (see note 6) 192,213 166,403
    Cost of property sales 2,044 2,703
    Other operating charges 72,109 69,786
    Total operating expenses 336,765 291,808

    http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/documents/sep_15/gun__1443083163_Arsenal_Holdings_plc_-_Annual_.pdf

  33. azed

    Anyone reckon Wenger still has an ace up his sleeve this summer?”

    I hope not. Last timeWenger had a ace up his sleeve, Sylvestre came out.

    I don’t think anyone here wants a version 2.0

  34. vicky

    Daz

    Yes, Rosicky, Arteta and Flamini wage saving will reflect in next year’s transfer fund as wages are mostly paid from ticket revenue collected round the year. It won’t have any bearing on our transfer fund this year as they were all released on free.

  35. Bamford10

    A little shocking that Welbeck is on £100k a week. Anyone know what he made at United?

    Walcott is the biggest waste of money, though. Waste of money and waste of space. Hasn’t improved in ten years, not a genuine wide player, not a CF. Should’ve been sold for a tidy sum three years ago.

  36. Red&White4life

    “I hope not. Last timeWenger had a ace up his sleeve, Sylvestre came out.”

    F*ck me, azed you killed me with this one looooooooooooool

  37. TitsMcGee

    A little shocking that Welbeck is on £100k a week. Anyone know what he made at United?”

    I heard like 40 but not sure. He got a decent pay-raise coming here though which is quite frankly a major problem with us. Not that we shouldn’t pay good players but that we OVERPAY the dross players and then can’t ship them out.

    Then by overpaying the dross he essentially buys their silence.

  38. Bamford10

    If Welbeck went from 40 to 100k, that’s a joke. Just another example of Wenger’s mismanagement. He was coming off an injury, no? And had had questionable production at the club level?

    Here’s two and a half your wages, though, Danny. No wonder Arsenal players are so complacent.

    Complete joke.

  39. Rambo Ramsey

    Welbeck’s 100k/w is as big a joke as Walnut’s 140k/w. I think the former has had like 25 starts in 2 seasons in PL with a return of less than 10 goals. Apparently out till February so give him another 5 or so starts next season. 30 starts in 3 seasons!

  40. Scravaldio

    A well run buisness would use our cash reserves to borrow at good rates.
    The extra cash would allow us to compete for the best players as our wages are already high enough to warrant even the highest payed players, if we were run correctly. We could borrow 100m and even at retail rates (which we could improve upon) the total interest repayment would be 36m over ten yers at 10m + int per year.
    Piles of fiat currency loosing value due to inflation and low interest rates does not make sense. Mis mangement is also a massive problem. I used to work at an institution that was sitting on huge sums (even more than Arsenal) and it lead to massive waste, lazyness and a genral feeling of apathy as the need to fight to survive was lost.
    Kroneke is not a buisness man. He married into walmart money and has spent the rest of his time protecting what he didn’t earn. Unsurprisingly this makes him completly risk adverse as he has no understanding of the realities of buisness.
    AW has obviously forgotton day one of his much lauded economic’s degree as he didn’t realise that an increase in clubs spending power and no significant increase in quality players would lead to an increase in players prices.
    I simply cannot take hearing how well the club is being run anymore as finacially it’s naive and when you compare our transfers to Bayen (a properly run club) you just get the feeling that a bunch of scared out of touch old men are clinging onto the cash to make themselves feel better as the world around them seems to pull further and further away.

  41. Daz

    “If Welbeck went from 40 to 100k, that’s a joke. Just another example of Wenger’s mismanagement. He was coming off an injury, no? And had had questionable production at the club level?”

    We shouldn’t have put ourselves in the position where welbeck was the only option on deadline day in the first place but as that ended being the case, do we give him the 100k a week or pass and sign nobody?

  42. freddylekgunner

    Considering what other English players are getting Welbeck’s wages is okay and always make an impact whenever he plays. Walcott forced Arsenal into his latest contract, remember when everybody was singing “sign da thing” and alot of abuse on here for the club not wanting pay that amount.

  43. Louis Almeida

    100k for Welbeck does seem excessive. Then again English players always seem to be able to milk high wages. At least Welbeck has an impact when he’s fit though. Generally I’m not too keen on the English talents but he seems a good guy who works hard for his coin.

  44. TitsMcGee

    A nothing player ,who was given the honor of captaining our team, has got the cheek to reciprocate in this manner”

    Speaking of dross players(sorry I was never a fan of him) that owe an allegiance to Wenger.

    An Everton caliber player in his prime that was gifted a role at a supposed big club.

  45. raptora

    Welbeck on a bigger wage than Giroud is a joke and a half. Whatever Giroud is and no matter how much Arsenal fans “hate” him, he has played in close to 50 games for us each of his 4 season. That makes 188 games in an Arsenal shirt in which he has almost single-handedly carried the CF position for us, and he earns less money than a cripple?! Pretty sad.

  46. N5

    “Whatever Giroud is and no matter how much Arsenal fans “hate” him”

    One thing I’ve noticed with the more “pro-Arsene” variety of poster on Le-Grove is there is no bloody objectivity. No one, not a single one on here has said they HATE Giroud. Some have said he’s not good enough and others have said they’d like him kept but another brought in to compliment/rotate/offer something else to him.

    Why with you guys is it, oh you said he didn’t score in 15 matches, you hate him, you’re not real supporters and so on.

    Things are not always one extreme or the other.

  47. raptora

    N5,
    that’s why I said “hate” cause it’s not really hate its much more like saying that “he sucks”, “he’s shite”, “he’s not good enough to play in Watford” and stuff like that. Anyways – new post.

  48. freddylekgunner

    raptoria at least get the facts right before going on your rants. Giroud earns more than Welbeck.

  49. raptora

    I wrote that corresponding to the numbers @Arsene’s Nurse gave. I didn’t bother to check them up and I accepted them as facts. If a new 100k a week contract for Danny is up doe, and make what I said true, it will be hillarious.

  50. Arsene's Nurse

    Lots of people not understanding what I wrote.
    —————————–
    raptora
    July 25, 2016 14:50:19

    Welbeck on a bigger wage than Giroud is a joke and a half. Whatever Giroud is and no matter how much Arsenal fans “hate” him, he has played in close to 50 games for us each of his 4 season. That makes 188 games in an Arsenal shirt in which he has almost single-handedly carried the CF position for us, and he earns less money than a cripple?! Pretty sad.
    ——————————————————-
    No that is not true. Giroud is now on more than £100k a week.

    If you carefully read what I wrote you’ll see that the £80k is the wage he was on when he joined Arsenal. Since then he has got a better deal. Same with Cazorla.

  51. Joe

    N5

    I read that this will be united starting lineup

    Zlatan
    Mkhit. Rooney(as #10) matrial
    Pogba?
    ??
    Shaw Bailly smalling Valencia
    De gea

  52. gonsterous

    This is the only club in the world where I’ve seen the fans take an interest in the financial aspect of the club !!