5 ways Arsene Wenger could stop failing at summer

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‘When a man has little time and lacks creativity he reverts to a listicle’ Some writer, circa 2015

I’m drowning in work for a liquor brand, what a dream, right? Booze and rental cars, the perfect concoction.

Anyway, I digress. I don’t really have 5 ways Wenger can change the summer. I have some observations that ‘could’ help us get better at this transfer game.

1. Pick a market and own it.

Remember the days when Arsene Wenger literally owned the whole of the French market. He knew all the players, all the agents and he made deals happen in secret. Anelka, Bobby P, Petit… Grimandi? Anyway, point here is he nailed that market. What’s happened since? Well, we dropped a few Gervinho’s, we slipped on a Park Chu Young and we lost our confidence.

Since then, we’ve been also rans in France. Hugo Lloris ended up at Spurs as we presided over an absolute car crash of a keeper run (Almunia *judders). 3 years ago, we let Auba got to Dortmund despite having a Gervinho issue. Last season, we let a guy called Kante go to Leicester. This summer, I know it’s early, but Dembele is already looking an absolute hero at Dortmund. This years cheaper Martial.

Where were we? Probably assessing him for the 900th time.

2. Send a scouting pod to live in Eastern Europe

Don’t get into semantics with me here, but by that I mean… Poland, Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Armenia, Albania Croatia… countries that have people with many Z’s in their names. Get a scouting network out there. The players are beefed up, they’re fu*cking scary and they work like absolute gladiators. Also, they’re technically gifted and we have NO ONE coming in from these places. Look at what Dortmund do there. Look at what the German clubs do there. Where is our presence? How have we overlooked this untapped market for so long?

I’VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.

If I can see it, why can’t Arsenal?

3. Move fast

Nothing says age quite like dithering.

You know age has caught up with you when you start complaining that the G-mail is broken. Bit like Arsene Wenger…

‘I came back this summer, I didn’t touch anything, and I swear the market is broken?’

‘Arsene, it’s not broken, that’s just how it works these days’

‘Bollocks, it was better before they updated it’

He’s a Myspace man living in a Snapchat world.

We are well-known for dithering, reneging and being a general pain in the arse to deal with. What happened to…

‘Wow, Freddie Ljungberg is good?’

‘ARSENAL ANNOUNCE SUPER SWEDE AS LATEST SIGNING’

It doesn’t happen anymore. Every deal we seem to do is a f*cking ordeal. Suarez, Higuain, Mikki, Vardy, Juan Mata…

Pick a player, make a decision, GO FOR IT.

4. Get aggressive

What is it with our…

‘Look, the price tag said £3.99 and you’re telling me the till says £4.50. Call the manager, I’m not going until this is resolved’

… attitude?

If Madrid say £24m for Higuain, and we agree… then they say, no, give us £32m. GIVE THEM £32m BECAUSE HE IS A GOOD PLAYER WITH GOALS.

Instead, we revert back into this strange attitude of morals and good old-fashioned values.

FOOTBALL IS NOT A VALUES GAME ANYMORE.

We drop a £40m + £1 bid for Suarez because we misinterpreted his contract. Once we dropped that howler, we shoud have said, look, let’s do business at a higher price. Instead, we let the deal disappear and the rest is Barcelona history.

We have money. I cannot emphasize that enough. We can be agressive. We can afford premium.We are incredibly wealthy as a club. Our long term future is secure. It’s only going to get richer. In fact, we’re so rich now, the only way we get richer is to win things and push up our commercials. So start splashing that cash.

5. Have a Plan B, Plan C and  Plan D

If Vardy and Mikki don’t drop. Don’t give up. Don’t wait until the end of the summer and hope the dominoes drop, because that’s not a good way to plan. Have you ducks in order, then power through until you have all those ducks in the duck bucket.

No Vardy? Fine, how about Higuain? No? How about Benz? What, wait until August 31st? No way. How about Draxler? No? Sturridge? No? Ok, someone get Jose Altidore on the blower.

We should have all our players in by the start of the season. We shouldn’t drag our feet. The solution should NEVER be to sign no one. We should always have a plan.

Right, that’s your lot, not bad for someone who had writers block.

BIG LOVE x

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  1. Wallace

    EN1AFC

    “Wallace, You’ve obviously read the swiss ramble analysis. What are your conclusions from it? Why do we feel the need to hoard more than double the amount of cash in reserve than Real Madrid who the next cash rich club in the world. We have debt repayments covered easily and plenty for a rainy day.”

    I have no idea. it does seem unusual. also a little surprising that no one’s ever asked Ivan about it at the AGM.

  2. Red&White4life

    “Every manager wants to work with great players…that’s for sure.”
    Not every one of them… I gues.

  3. ADKB

    “Every manager wants to work with great players…that’s for sure.”

    But not every manager can have an opportunity to work with great players. Wenger could but wouldn’t make it happen.

  4. STV

    I think Wenger’s long been the problem at Arsenal and Stan, like any shrewd Businessman, took advantage of the situation at Arsenal which primarily was Wenger’s creation at first place.

    He’s addicted to Arsenes methods. It’s unlikely they’ll part if they can help it. They both are problems especially Wenger. The fans should make his life difficult at Arsenal..

    I agree with what Redtruth said.

  5. Emiratesstroller

    Personally I have no objection to two of our acquisitions, which have been made so far.

    Xhaka is I believe an excellent buy considering that he was rated the best
    midfielder in Bundesliga last season. He is 23 and cost probably the right price.

    Holder is 20 an U21 England Centre Back and based on what I saw in Toulon
    Tournament probably on same level as Chambers. He cost £2 million as opposed to £16 million for Chambers.

    However, these two buys are not going to solve the main weaknesses in the
    Arsenal Team/Squad.

    We have not managed to buy a striker who is either an upgrade on Giroud or
    at least a replacement for Welbeck. Time and options are running out to solve problem before start of season.

    Second whilst Holding or Chambers may be okay as fourth string centre back
    or as second string right full back we need to buy a first string Centre Back to
    replace both Mertesacker and Gabriel. Neither are first choice options.

    Mr Gazidis appraisal of what the club’s policy should be falls very short of reality. Surely he should have learned from last summer that the club should not
    have renewed contracts of Arteta and Rosicky and bought replacements
    when both Welbeck and Wilshere underwent surgery for longterm injuries.

    Our current situations is not as bleak but anyone who believes that we will challenge for title with these two holes in team is frankly living in cloud cuckoo land.

  6. EN1AFC

    Wallace

    “I have no idea. it does seem unusual. also a little surprising that no one’s ever asked Ivan about it at the AGM”

    All questions at the AGM are vetted beforehand that will be why. No one at the club can be questioned or held to account for anything. That is one of our biggest problems

    Rambo Ramsey

    I would love to know who your referring to and even quote anyone on here whos pro Kroenke?! Bamford and myself have repeated numerous times to AlexanderHendry that Kroenke has never refused funds to Wenger contrary to what he believes. I think every Arsenal fan realises that Stan is a big problem, it’s obvious. It’s people who use him as an excuse for Wengers failings that I and many others find extremely irritating.

    What I would be interested in knowing is if anyone on here back in 2007 welcomed him and not Usmanov. I remember a protest about Usmanov’s attempted take over by Red Action, organised by the club. I bet they feel pretty fucking stupid now. He may not be perfect but what billionaire is? If he’s willing to invest in the club and owns as many shares as he does, he should be offered a seat on the board and should be listened to. I thought we were a club with “Class” after all?

  7. DaleDaGooner

    I know Rob Holding isn’t anyone’s cup of tea, but would you have been excited by Stones if we brought him in for say £45m? I see Chambers and Holding in the same way I see Stones.

  8. DaleDaGooner

    If Stan is not the excuse then who is? If your boss tells you to provide deliverables that are suitable by a 12noon, and you waltz into the meeting at 11.59am, that boss should chew you out and threaten your position in the company.

  9. DaleDaGooner

    What I meant is, Stan has set pretty low standards for Wenger to deliver, he should be delivery above what he’s doing at the moment, and I can only blame a passive, nonchalant-about-winning-a-trohpy Stan Kroenke. Either he isn’t providing Wenger with what he needs, or He’s not pushing Wenger to deliver based on what has been provided.

  10. vicky

    Roila to pocket 20M from Pogba deal…that’s 5 times the annual salary of most footballers in the world- absolutely astonishing. Why the fuck are agents paid so much ?

  11. ADKB

    DaleDagooner:

    Yeah, I might just agree with your assessment of Stones. He had a couple of decent games and suddenly he was touted as the next big thing.

    That’s what often happens with English players. Anyone remember how a certain Jermaine Beckford’s goals dumped Utd out of the FA cup a few seasons ago? All of a sudden he became a superstar.

  12. Daz

    Fat Sam confirmed as England manager bot a bad time to take the job, can’t exactly do any worse now can he

  13. alexanderhenry

    Wallace

    ‘I have no idea. it does seem unusual. also a little surprising that no one’s ever asked Ivan about it at the AGM.’

    Yes, but ‘unusual’ is a bit of an understatement. It’s a scandal

  14. naijagunner

    Personally I believe if Holding gets his chance he will take it….seen a few clips and he doesn’t treat the ball like it’s a bomb and can carry the ball out with ease

    Not something you can say about 15m Gabriel

    I have never let transfer fees cloud my judgement of a player

  15. WengerEagle

    Can’t believe that Dortmund are pissing away 30 million on Schurrle after being so pragmatic all summer with regards to their spending.

    The guy has been dogshit for the best part of 3 years, strange one.

  16. Ozy

    The Holding and Stones comparisons have begun.

    We surely need to take some blame for the shit show that is Arsenal when you have supporters like this.

  17. Ishola70

    EN1AFC

    “What I would be interested in knowing is if anyone on here back in 2007 welcomed him and not Usmanov. I remember a protest about Usmanov’s attempted take over by Red Action, organised by the club. I bet they feel pretty fucking stupid now. He may not be perfect but what billionaire is? If he’s willing to invest in the club and owns as many shares as he does, he should be offered a seat on the board and should be listened to. I thought we were a club with “Class” after all?”

    There will be many who should feel fvcking stupid now. Usmanov was vilified at that time by many Arsenal fans. What we should be asking is why Usmanov was painted as the villain at the time by many fans? Would it have something to do with wanting Arsenal to be seen as doing things differently to Chelsea or Man City? Wenger publicly stated his dislike for the way Chelsea and Man City were buying success as he put it and he said this at the time period in question and before and after. Were the fans following their master Arsene Wenger in their thought processes?

    Truth is many fans now complaining about lack of spend back then were pandering to Wenger’s thoughts and happily and stupidly backed them. Those being we are taking a different path to Chelsea and Man City. These fans made their own bed and the club show lack of ambition because these fans allowed them to get in a position to do so. They basically did the dirty work for Kroenke and the rest of the money grabbers on the board. And the board still take advantage of the fans. And it all boils down to one thing all this = loyalty to one certain Arsene Wenger.

  18. champagne charlie

    Bamford

    “”We have to always keep a substantial amount of cash in reserve at all times in order to comply with our debt obligations. Most of the remaining cash is needed to run the club across a full season, with all costs including player salaries associated with that”

    Run your eyes over that and tell me wages aren’t associated with the cash reserves again.

    For someone so often wrong on here you don’t half postulate some utter horseshit. In truth you’re a fan with a distorted view of reality with regards to football, no background in the game, and little understanding of english football in general. So, guy, suggest you wind your smarmy neck in and stop being a cocky cunt because the content of your patter makes for cringeworthy reading.

  19. Micheal

    Fat Sam as England manager, Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary – no wonder we are thelaughing stock of the world.

  20. Ozy

    Eagle, you’ve been complaining about Dortmund’s Schurrle purchase as if it’s coming out of your pocket. 15 million for Bartra is pretty poor too.

    Schurrle is a risk but if he can recapture his Leverkusen form, it could very well be a solid signing. Overpriced but so is every player moving this window.

  21. N5

    “I have no idea. it does seem unusual. also a little surprising that no one’s ever asked Ivan about it at the AGM.”

    EN1 got in there before me, but I was about to say the same about the AGM heavily vetting the questions posed. It’s a bit of a joke that no honest questions can be asked or additional ones added to unsatisfactory replies.

    The clubs internal workings are taken straight out of the Kim Jong-un handbook.

  22. Daz

    Just read a tweet that made some sense

    If vardy at £20m was plan A
    Why then would higuain at £70m be plan B?

    You could substitute higuain for any striker north of say £40m and would still make sense

  23. WengerEagle

    Ozy

    Was it not £5 million for Bartra?

    And you’re getting the wrong end of the stick, I think that Dortmund have done some great business this window, Gotze is a great signing for them as is Ousmane Dembele and Emre Mor looks quality too.

    Doesn’t mean I have to think that their Schurrle signing is also brilliant, it’s a huge risk as he hasn’t played like he had at Leverkusen for a long, long time. He wasn’t even first choice every week last season and they finished like 7th or 8th.

    Stunk out the place at Wolfsburg.

  24. N5

    Daz, I’m actually quite pleased with Fat Sam getting the position. Out of the shower of shit that were being put up for it, he’s the one I’da picked.

    Fucking punched face Steve Bruce looked likely at one point!!! I know it’s not a measure of someones quality, but Fat Sam always had Arsene’s number and so showed he was a manager that approaced a game with an idea/tactics!

    We’ll see how he does, but he can’t be any worse that Dinosaur Roy.

  25. Wenker-wanger

    The sporting “crime” is in the fact its plainly obvious wankger isnt interested in pushing arsenal to its highest possible potential. Satisfied with “ticking over” for champs league places is NOT the ethos of professional sport.
    Teams with less resources than cash stacked arsenal still aspire to reach their limited potential and thats respectable. Arsenal are like a ferrari being driven slowly to save money on petrol.

  26. Daz

    N5

    Yeah I don’t mind fat sam, I’m of the opinion the FA interfere with team selection any way so whoever gets the job is screwed

  27. Ozy

    Was it 5? That makes it much more reasonable.

    In regards to Schurrle, I don’t necessarily disagree with you. It just seems odd that you’ve mentioned in a number of times now. It’s a risky signing and I would not have valued him anywhere near 30 million with the sheer number of better players in that position out there, and valued at much less, but we’ll see how it plays out. There’s a good player in there.

  28. Ashley

    Oh well , it cold be worse , we could could all be Liverpool fans looking at each other and thinking , why the fuck have we just signed Alex manninger

  29. Barking Arsene

    Wenger doesn’t like to spend, and never has, even pre Kronke.

    Everyone must know this by now.

    Now Kronke isn’t going to push Wenger into spending if his investment is growing steadily every year is he?

    Wenger gets the result Kronke desires (capital growth) so there is no need to invest above the current rate. This suits both Wenger & Kronke.

    Those people who think Wenger has no money available are in general unable to provide any evidence of the manager having been denied funds.

    Wenger would have access to funds if requested – however this expenditure would have to be offset with additional success – something that cannot be guaranteed.

    Success isn’t directly related to output and as an economist Wenger will know that the relatively comfortable and constant position we currently hold ticks all the boxes fit his employers.

    He has no reason to put his job on the line with additional risks at his age. Winning is a bonus at this point for him.

    Wenger isn’t a risk taker and every few years there will be someone around him who will take that risk and be rewarded with a title. Sadly that won’t be us.

  30. Ishola70

    Barking Arsene:
    “Wenger doesn’t like to spend, and never has, even pre Kronke. Everyone must know this by now.”

    You will find those most vehemently against Kroenke are the biggest fans of Arsene Wenger. They go hand in hand.

    These fans used to love Wenger for picking up cheap players and having success in doing it. Now this doesn’t work out for Wenger they look to someone to blame Kroenke.

  31. WengerEagle

    Ozy

    Thought I only mentioned it twice? Lol, apologies if it was more, just found it quite weird that they paid more for him than Gotze or Dembele, my point being surely (pun intended) there was a better forward out there for 30 million squid?

    Gotze at 23 million is just a ridiculous snip when you look at what Liverpool have spent on Mane and Wijnaldum (both good players but Gotze is a class above).

    Wouldn’t hold my breath on Schurrle but he’s certainly a very good finisher on his day, if he gets his act together he could supply 10-15 goals which would be pretty decent.

  32. STV

    “We surely need to take some blame for the shit show that is Arsenal when you have supporters like this.”

    Say no more! Agree 100%

  33. Cesc Appeal

    The Gazidis interview was a bit of a clanger really, sparked quite a bit of outrage amongst Arsenal fans.

    That’s why I think this year is going to be so interesting, the majority of Arsenal fans are just done now, regardless of who you blame most, they are done with the charade, this ‘lets pretend to be an ambitious football club’ stuff that we go through every year, we know the same mistakes and failings are coming because we’re living through the same mistakes and failings in the off-season that precede those failings in the season itself.

    Its just waiting to go off, and it doesn’t feel like before either where there’d be grumbles or what have you, this is real anger, whilst of course there are still plenty of Wenger defenders, never have I seen him take so much stick out in the open, of course with Kroenke and Gazidis the gloves are off, no one defends them…

    It doesn’t feel like there’s a lot of joy out there, and that’s when its dangerous for owners/managers etc, once you take the joy out of supporting a club fans will get nasty, they don’t pay for their tickets, buy their shirts, tune in to contribute to a business and feel mighty proud of that as Gazidis suggests everyone should…they do it because they want the fun of supporting the club they love and not knowing what is going to happen over the course of a season, all they know is that their club is trying to be as successful as possible.

    Arsenal fans cannot say their club is doing that, and there is no unpredictability at all…interesting season ahead.

    I don’t know if they’ve totally misjudged the feeling in the fan base, or whether they think there’s enough fans who will just back them up because of Wenger. I know people will say they’ve sold their season tickets, they don’t care, but there comes a point where chants, protests, empty seats, drop off in merchandise etc becomes embarrassing.

    Three weeks to Liverpool, could be ugly.

  34. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    He sort of played all the usual crap, but he has retreated from this position we saw last year of ‘Arsenal can afford most any player in the world…ambition…success’ blah blah to trying to say we should imitate Leicester, that spending is not the answer, and harking back to the dark years ‘we cannot compete with big sending rivals.’

    It was a mix of the usual shit but then some seriously worrying comments, that ‘fitness’ and preparedness and other things were the key to success…lucky that none of that involves spending.

    To top it off, Tim Payton was saying on Twitter Gazidis is due another fat bonus and Kroenke is getting more consultancy fees.

    Needless to say, fans are not happy about it.

  35. Marc

    Fuck me I’m depressed just when you thought the club couldn’t do anything to make fans feel more despondent Gazidis comes out with this. What I can’t make out is why on earth he’d do it? It’s a PR cock up of historic proportions, unless he’s trying to prepare the remaining Arsenal fans who still think we’re going to do something for disappointment.

  36. Bamford10

    Champagne

    You’re a real charmer, guy. One, going forward you might want to cite whom/where your quote is coming from and provide a link. Just so we have the context.

    Two, it was long ago settled here on Le Grove that the club does not use cash reserves for player salaries and that these costs come out of operating expenses. You are the first person to claim otherwise here for some time. As I don’t understand this argument as well as some others — e.g., gambon — I’m going to leave this argument to them.

    I look forward to your conversation with gambon on this point, btw.

    Regardless, if that is Gazidis talking, I believe he is being a bit disingenuous there. We use a “self-sustaining” model, which means (among other things) that operating expenses are paid for by operating revenues. We do not spend more than we make. Player salaries are operating expenses and are thus covered by operating revenues. There would be no need for us to dip into the cash reserves for this very reason.

    However, what Gazidis might be referring to — and this is why I say it’s disingenuous — is that the two respective cash flows — i.e., the flow in and the flow out — are uneven as the season proceeds, that is, more may need to go out in month one than is coming in in month one. Therefore in a certain sense we might be drawing upon the cash reserves to pay salaries, but only in that limited sense. At the end of the year, salaries will all have been covered by operating revenues and no salary amounts will have required us to dip into the cash reserves.

    Cash reserves are for non-operating expenses, e.g., signings, capital investments, etc.

    Q.E.D.

    As for your insults, they only make you look more silly and more desperate. Again, do your best to understand the above — I have a feeling you won’t get it — and note that I look forward to your discussion with gambon or someone else who can better articulate that point.

    Cheers. 😉

    If we draw upon the cash reserves at any point for operating expenses such as player salaries, we do so only in the same manner that we would draw upon a a line of

  37. Ashley

    Can you imagine how bad the next January tfer window is going to be LOOOL

    No one will expect us to be strong this season , and I don’t think that will cause anybody to underestimate us , I think it will make teams want to try and roll us over. I think we will start off weak and then come good when we’re out of the title picture by the end of September , we’ll linger around 6/7th for an age then nick 4th at the death. I just don’t see our top players being motivated this season. You would surely be looking around at the other rivals and thinking ‘wow I wish my team were going hard for the title this window ‘ , then you would rock up to colney and be greeted by takuma asano flanked be yaya sanogo sapping any remaining hope for the season straight out of you … I will say tho , I’m actually intrigued by the holding signing , young English , his name even sounds like a defensive name , I think he’ll surprise us this season ….

  38. Ozy

    Eagle,

    Who knows. It may have been twice. Not a dig at you at all. Apologies if it came out that way.

    If Mane was sold for 34 million, Schurrle at 25-30 does not seem too crazy. But anyway! Dembélé, though, what a player. Huge miss on our end.

    How did our scouting department come back with Asano, Sanogo..

  39. Ozy

    I believe the Gazidis story is a negotiating tactic. We are in a really bad position in our transfer pursuit – every club knows we are desperate and will ask for over the odd prices. Gazidis is trying to reel that back, probably.

    Then again, he probably means every word of it.

  40. VP

    What’s up people.

    Told you guys that you’d end up paying for that Wembley day out a couple of years ago. A defeat to Hull on that day presented a real opportunity for the revolutionary change that this club so desperately requires. All that the FA Cup victory has lead to is segmenting the pathetic, incompetence and unethical status quo that we see before us. This was always going to be the case. Hope the day out was worth it! for me personally it’s definitely one of the worst results that I have experienced as an Arsenal fan of over 25 years.

    Just don’t think the fans are ever going to learn. However, here’s a few words of
    wisdom for the mugs out there. The best thing that can happen this summer is for ozil,Sanchez, koiselny to leave and for no more signings to be made, and let there be an uprise. This is our best hope…only hope, and the best thing that can happen to this club for the longer term good.

  41. Bamford10

    Barking Arsene

    “Wenger doesn’t like to spend, and never has, even pre Kronke. Everyone must know this by now.”

    Sadly, there are a few Wenger dead-enders that do not know this. We see them here today.

    Cheers to you, though, Barking.

  42. VP

    Bamford10
    July 22, 2016 10:03:16
    ‘’I asked this the other day, but if someone with a finance or accounting background could explain to us how football clubs treat players as assets on a balance sheet, this would be much appreciated’’

    If an entity buys something that’s expected to have a useful life of more than one year (eg computer ) then rather than expense it all in one go, it is expensed according to the number of years it’s expected to be used. Hence, It’s regarded as capital expenditure rather than a general expense.

    For football clubs
    The purchase of a players would be regarded as a capital expenditure and thereby an asset (as more than one year of expense expected). Not be confused with the players wages which is a yearly expense.

    So lets say that we buy Yaya Sanogo for £100mill on a five year deal. The 100million will be posted straight into the accounts as an asset as 100mill upon the purchase.

    This 100m will then need be amoritised over 5 years (length of the contract) , meaning that at the end of every year 20million will be taken out of the asset account and 20m expensed into the P&L.

    P&L B/S

    Expense: Asset:
    Yr1: Amotisation: 20m Value: 80m
    Yr2: Amortisation 20m Value: 60m
    Yr3: Amoritisation 20m Value: 40m

    Until it gets to year five where the asset value will be zero and the player purchase fully expensed in the p&L.

    Profit on Player sale
    If we we’re to sell yaya for £120m you would naturally expect the profit in the accounts to be disclosed at 20m (120-100m) but this is not the case.

    The profit would be based on the assets (players) book value at the time. So for example if he was sold at the end of year 3 the profit as per the accounts would be disclosed as 80m (120-40).

    Hope that’s helped.

  43. STV

    Some easily affordable players we missed out:

    Mkhitaryan, Gotze, Kante, Dembele, Janssen, Wijnaldum, Sane, BenArfa etc..

    Smh

  44. Bamford10

    Dale

    “Either he isn’t providing Wenger with what he needs, or He’s not pushing Wenger to deliver based on what has been provided.”

    He has definitely provided Wenger with ample funds. No serious person doubts this.

    Your second point, though, is the last red herring of the Wenger apologist.

    Why would a manager need an owner to tell him to try to win things? What other manager in all of world football needs his owner to tell him to try to win titles? None. No one.

    Does anyone think Mourinho, or Simeone, or Klopp, or Ancelotti, or Ferguson, would need an owner to tell them to try to be the best? If any of these were manager of Arsenal, would Stan Kroenke need to TELL THEM to aim for the top?

    The idea is ridiculous. Absurd. No, these men would aim to be the best because that is why they do what they do. That is why they wake up in the morning.

    Not Wenger, though.

    Wenger is the only manager in all of world football who apparently needs to be told to aim for titles. Sorry, but if someone needs to tell you to aim for titles you shouldn’t be managing at all.

    You should instead retire, fuck off or run a youth team somewhere, which is precisely what Wenger should have done ages ago.

  45. Bamford10

    VP

    Thanks. That does help. Someone else said the same thing on the previous page, but I appreciate that.

  46. VP

    Table didn’t paste properly. More clearer here.

    Bamford10
    July 22, 2016 10:03:16
    ‘’I asked this the other day, but if someone with a finance or accounting background could explain to us how football clubs treat players as assets on a balance sheet, this would be much appreciated’’

    If an entity buys something that’s expected to have a useful life of more than one year (eg computer ) then rather than expense it all in one go, it is expensed according to the number of years it’s expected to be used. Hence, It’s regarded as capital expenditure rather than a general expense.

    For football clubs
    The purchase of a players would be regarded as a capital expenditure and thereby an asset (as more than one year of expense expected). Not be confused with the players wages which is a yearly expense.

    So lets say that we buy Yaya Sanogo for £100mill on a five year deal. The 100million will be posted straight into the accounts as an asset as 100mill upon the purchase.

    This 100m will then need be amoritised over 5 years (length of the contract) , meaning that at the end of every year 20million will be taken out of the asset account and 20m expensed into the P&L.

    P&L Balance sheet
    Expense: Asset:

    Yr1: Amotisation: 20m Value: 80m

    Yr2: Amortisation 20m Value: 60m

    Yr3: Amoritisation 20m Value: 40m

    Until it gets to year five where the asset value will be zero and the player purchase fully expensed in the p&L.

    Profit on Player sale
    If we we’re to sell yaya for £120m you would naturally expect the profit in the accounts to be disclosed at 20m (120-100m) but this is not the case.

  47. Chigooner

    Arsenal is an absolute embarrassment. It’s reaching cartoon villain levels of greed.

    Half the teams in the Prem have already signed a striker. Spurs dropped 18mil on Jannsen and obviously they have Kane. But we can’t come up with the money somehow.

    Some shameful shit going on here. All on the backs of the fans loyalty. It’s a dark time to be an Arsenal fan.

  48. Joe

    Alexander

    You do realize that Kronke is married to the heir of the one THE richest families in the world. The Waltons.

    I really don’t
    Think
    Kronke
    Needs Arsenal
    To leverage a new stadium
    And team.

    I think a signature from
    His father in law would be enough.

    But yeah keep thinking Kronke needs Arsenal
    To
    Fund anything.

  49. VP

    pedro…whys it not pasting properly? going to give it one last try!!

    Bamford10
    July 22, 2016 10:03:16
    ‘’I asked this the other day, but if someone with a finance or accounting background could explain to us how football clubs treat players as assets on a balance sheet, this would be much appreciated’’

    If an entity buys something that’s expected to have a useful life of more than one year (eg computer ) then rather than expense it all in one go, it is expensed according to the number of years it’s expected to be used. Hence, It’s regarded as capital expenditure rather than a general expense.

    For football clubs
    The purchase of a players would be regarded as a capital expenditure and thereby an asset (as more than one year of expense expected). Not be confused with the players wages which is a yearly expense.

    So lets say that we buy Yaya Sanogo for £100mill on a five year deal. The 100million will be posted straight into the accounts as an asset as 100mill upon the purchase.

    This 100m will then need be amoritised over 5 years (length of the contract) , meaning that at the end of every year 20million will be taken out of the asset account and 20m expensed into the P&L.

    P&L =profit & loss account B/S=balance sheet

    Yr1: Amotisation expense (P&L): 20m Asset Value: 80m (b/s)

    Yr2: Amortisation expense(P&L) 20m Asset Value: 60m (b/s)

    Yr3: Amoritisation expense (P&L) 20m Asset Value: 40m (b/s)

    Until it gets to year five where the asset value will be zero and the player purchase fully expensed in the p&L.

    Profit on Player sale
    If we we’re to sell yaya for £120m you would naturally expect the profit in the accounts to be disclosed at 20m (120-100m) but this is not the case.

    The profit would be based on the assets (players) book value at the time. So for example if he was sold at the end of year 3 the profit as per the accounts would be disclosed as 80m (120-40).

    Hope that’s helped.

  50. Jacko

    Joe

    Loving your City mate. Stunning!

    Had lunch at Tap and Barrel the other day watching the boat planes come and go. Beers at Reflection’s rooftop and Prohibition. Biked Stanley Park yesterday and had dinner at Cardero’s overlooking the marina. Off to Granville Island in a minute!

    Oh and there are so many good looking Asian birds here I keep walking into lampposts!

    Happy Days

    Ps … Wenger, owner and board out!!