Euro 2016 needs a Jack Wilshere

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What the hell is going on in the world? Terrible news about Jo Cox. Shot for her beliefs. You see it go on elsewhere in the world, but to have something that horrendous happen over EU membership is beyond the pale. So very, very sad.

Anyway, back onto something more joyful.

STICKING IT TO THE WELSH.

Thought our boys were fairly respectful before the game. Old Gareth Bale wasn’t so. I also thought the ESPN coverage was unfair too… the narrative of the ‘plucky Welsh’ was boring. But beautiful.

That Welsh guy in the crowd crying at 1-1 was beyond embarrassing… then in the 91st minute, Daniel Sturridge drops in with a big bag of goods and steals their moment of glory away.

AMAZING. ESPN, why did you not cut back to crying man?

Interesting that 2 years on from our last dismal showing at a major tournament, we’re still a side that lacks creativity and vision. Our system is turgid and uninspired. Our manager is pretty clueless too. He had a problem with an unproductive midfield not feeding his forward players… so he brings on 3 forwards?

That game was crying out for a Jack Wilshere to build play out from the back. Erick Dier is just a thug with limited skill, Delle Alli looks like a fish up a tree and Wayne Rooney looks like a fat old striker who has been asked to play in midfield in Sunday league because he doesn’t have the legs up front.

Still, Jamie Vardy scored a fox in the box like goal.

Aaron Ramsey looked pretty good playing a system that tried for discipline

I missed the French game, but it didn’t sound like Giroud had a good game. Payet though… so glad Wenger dropped a, ‘we thought about signing him too’ on Bein sport earlier. We said no because we were well stocked with similar talent.

SAY WHHHHHAAAAAAAAT!

Anyway, still no movement on the transfer front… so I’ll call it a day!

Catch you tomorrow you beautiful people.

 

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  1. Marko

    but we don’t have the standing that some supporters imagine we do

    I’m well aware of how bang average we are these days by the way. I just don’t see us being as woeful as others see us. We’re a top10 European club… at best. Should be more but until the mentality changes

  2. Jim lahey

    @marko –

    I agree that we are an attractive proposition for most footballers, but one question they have to ask themselves is do they want to win the league? If that answer is yes, then they won’t join Arsenal, they will go to United, City or Chelsea instead.

  3. salparadisenyc

    Great high energy performance from team USA last night in the Copa, into the semi vs winner of Argentina and Venezuala.

    Don’t think i’ve ever seen them perform as good as they did in the first 45.

  4. shad

    Predictably, we are not making in roads on any other WC players joining us. Typical Wenger used Xhaka to placate season ticket holders. Now back to the stasis of mediocrity.

  5. Marko

    Jim first things first it’s United we’re talking about not City. As bad and mediocre we’ve been they’ve been worse the last few years. And at 27 waiting to see if United improve over the next few years is a gamble. But you are right and get the trepidation for certain types of players like say Lewandowski from Bayern or Suarez from Barcelona. But a player from Dortmund or Leicester? Not buying it. Besides it’s a catch 22 really. We try to bring in players that’ll help us challenge for a title and they don’t want to join cause we don’t challenge for a title. I don’t think modern footballers are that smart or thoughtful tbh

  6. seg

    The thing is most players would choose more money over champions league football. You want a top player? Pay top money! You think Ozil is here because he loves Wenger? Nah, he here because Arsenal paid Madrid 42m.

  7. salparadisenyc

    Of course Raiola is actively pushing for Miki to United, its more money. His wage will be considerably higher than it would be nearly anywhere else. Sure a tidy signing on fee for agent.

    If Miki has any balls he’ll go to a champions league side, that said pretty safe bet United will be in that competition next season.

    If AW wants him he needs to dig deep and pay, not hard to see where the money would come from. On top of the hefty balance, selling Walcott nearly funds it.

  8. Jim lahey

    @Marko –

    I guess no matter what club you’re buying from it comes down to the individual player, Mkhitaryan could simply just want to be apart of a team that has the opportunity of winning the league. To be honest he would have had a better chance of winning the German league with Dortmund than he would winning the Premier League with us. Its sad but true.

    United are a shambles at the moment, but love him or detest him, that prick will have them there or there abouts next season. That United squad isn’t bad and you know Morinho will easily drop 100-150m this summer to improve it even further, and that is not happening at Arsenal.

  9. Marko

    It’s absolutely his agent pushing for United rather than us being a laughing stock. I’m sure Raiola is pushing Mad Mario to go to China this summer too. Sal absolutely no guarantees that United get champions league next season even with Mourinho there. The job he has on his hands with all the kids there (doesn’t have a great track record with working with them) is gonna be tough and sure he’s got the funds but they’re in the same boat as half of Europe at the moment and that’s getting in the top tier players that are tough to get in these days. There’s a severe lack of quality all across the board really in europe. That’s kind of why City targeted two injured players in Gundogen and Laporte and why they’ll probably grossly overpay for an average player in Stones

  10. Marko

    To be honest he would have had a better chance of winning the German league with Dortmund than he would winning the Premier League with us. Its sad but true.

    Come on man really? I mean there’s never a guarantee either way but if we were to sign Xhaka, Mkhitaryan, Vardy and possibly a defender you don’t see us at least competing? Maybe?

  11. Emiratesstroller

    Wallace

    Our trade is with 27 different countries in EU and our major trading partners are Germany, France and Netherlands.

    Germany’s major businesses such as the car industry are not likely to allow their Government or Brussels to surrender their largest market in Europe, which is Britain by engaging in a Tariff War. I would remind you also that VW
    and BMW have invested heavily in British Brands.

    Similarly France’s major employment is in Agriculture. Do you think that French Farmers and their workers are going to allow their Government to take revenge on Britain by engaging in a Trade War, which impacts on their
    major export market.

    Spain relies heavily on Tourism and Fisheries. They rely heavily on British tourists and of course British Territorial Waters for Fish.

    Most of our major European Partners enjoy a significant trade surplus with
    Britain. Why would they wish to damage that situation?

    Yes there may be a short term difficulty as we readjust to life outside Europe,
    but there will be long term benefits.

    I recall vividly the arguments concerning trade between Britain and both Australia and New Zealand when we joined EEC. The bulk of their trade was with
    the ‘motherland’ at that time. Both survived the trauma.

    For all the rhetoric business is not conducted by Governments or EU, but by
    businesses. Solutions will be found and within the two year time frame allowed for Brexit.

    I don’t know which way the vote will go. I hope that if the supporters of Remain win that it will be a close vote. Perhaps then the Politicians and Bureaucrats will have a wake up call and start reversing the trend of centralisation that we see today.

  12. Marko

    Funny thing is I think whoever ends up with Mkhitaryan (if he does in fact move) he’ll improve them so much they should be a legitimate challenger this coming season. That’s how good he is

  13. tunnygriffboy

    Mikhtaryan shares the same agent as Ibra. Nice little earner for him if both go toman u.

    I was hoping we were serious about mMikhtaryan. Maybe were not. My concern is that we’re only getting a striker and a defender and we’ll use Walcott, Ox, Campbell and Ramsey on the right. I’m seriously hoping not.

    Wenger has said the reason we lost out last season was because we didn’t score enough goals. A striker will remedy some of that but we need another signing who scores goals as well.

    Despite reservations we are quite a big draw. Thinb is with the money around the game atm means that all clubs can offer big wages. Leicester have offered Vardy more money after he improved his contract in the beginning of the year.

    West Ham, Everton (with their new backer), spurs will all be paying good wages. Man city and man u pay obscene wages.

  14. Cesc Appeal

    Tunny

    Our right hand side is seriously weak, Walcott I just consider a nothing, no use at all, Oxlade just has not kicked on and looks to be falling into that same pit of stagnation or regression we see many youngsters fall into, Campbell is average, Ramsey is not a RM and then you have Iwobi who should be used in spurts as a young upstart.

    I’d sell both Walcott and Campbell, depending on our home grown situation I’d loan Oxlade as well, he needs it desperately, he’s turning into Podolski, more known for his Twitter exploits than on the pitch.

    Mhkitaryan would have a been a great signing, really I think we should have dropped a large (relative to his situation) fee on BvB’s doorstep early on around the same time as Xhaka and see what happened.

  15. Marko

    Looking forward to the Italians here. Maybe it says a bit about the tournament big boys so far when you have Italy being the most impressive. Maybe it says a bit about Italian expectations these days

  16. tunnygriffboy

    Maybe Dortmund won’t sell. Already lost Hummels and Gundogan. Would they do a Lewandowski on him ?

    Hey maybe we’ve a deal for a player already done and not yet announced. You never know. I certainly think we will have a few more new faces.

  17. Emiratesstroller

    Marko

    As I said earlier today the Agent of Miki is making the statements and not the
    player.

    I suspect he is heaping pressure on BD to sell the player this summer. He wants an auction between clubs to force a sale. Agents earn commission from sales.

    Let’s be clear Arsenal’s main priority this summer is not Right Wing and I
    doubt that the club will pay an inflated price for this player when we need to
    buy a striker to replace Welbeck.

    Wenger said at the end of last season that he would be in market for two to
    three players. Somehow I don’t see him buying five or six as some posters seem to expect.

  18. tunnygriffboy

    Cesc

    Agree totally. I’m hoping we have desire and gumption to get someone to play there. Got nagging feeling it’ll be a striker and defender. We really need goals from that right hand side.

  19. Bamford10

    Emirates

    “Wenger said at the end of last season that he would be in market for two to
    three players. Somehow I don’t see him buying five or six as some posters seem to expect.”

    Really? We hadn’t gathered that from your first 300 posts saying more or less the same thing, tempering expectations, etc.

    I mean this good-naturedly, btw.

  20. Marko

    BvB quietly getting on with their business, still need a central midfielder though I think.

    ???

    First off ES we needed a striker before Welbeck went down so we need a striker not a replacement. And I’d honestly argue another winger/am is as important. Our attack on the whole last season was so fucking lame it’s unreal. When you consider Ozil’s assists and Sanchez playing not that well but still decent numbers creatively speaking we need more help in that area. Walcott beyond shite, Chamberlain’s end product is non existent and playing midfielder’s on the right to stupidly accommodate them is dumb. We absolutely need a right winger

  21. Marko

    Really? We hadn’t gathered that from your first 300 posts saying more or less the same thing, tempering expectations, etc. I mean this good-naturedly, btw.

    How do you really feel about Giroud Bam? I mean really… couldn’t help myself bud

  22. Emiratesstroller

    tunnygriffboy

    Yes we do need goals on right wing, but somehow I don’t see Wenger spending
    more than £40 million on forward[s].

    That was the sort of figure being touted originally if we bought collectively both Vardy and Mkhitaryan.

    I doubt there is much wriggle room in the budget if we have to spend more than that as I think that Wenger will want to buy at least one new defender
    as well.

  23. tunnygriffboy

    Real Madrid/Barcelona/man u, the biggest football clubs in the world irrespective of where they finish.

    Intersting that Mikhtaryan put his improved stats last season down to Tuchel saying the play a more possession based game now. He said under Klopp it was press and very physical. Said he enjoyed his season last year.

    Yet he wants to play for Mourinho ?

    Suppose at 27 he wants a bumper last contract.

    What are your thoughts on Mahrez ?

  24. Emiratesstroller

    Bamford 10

    I think that if one takes a look at the number of posts you made over last month
    it is you who breaks all “World Records”. I may have written quite a few today,
    but generally it is a fraction of what you write.

  25. Jim lahey

    “Intersting that Mikhtaryan put his improved stats last season down to Tuchel saying the play a more possession based game now. He said under Klopp it was press and very physical. Said he enjoyed his season last year.Yet he wants to play for Mourinho ?”

    Yeah I was thinking the same thing… and who knows maybe Tuchel will be at Arsenal in a year! 😀

  26. Jim lahey

    “I’d prefer others but I’d take Mahrez”

    Same, don’t think he is the best fit for us, and what we need, but is a player that has already proven he can do it in the league, would have him over Vardy to be honest.

  27. Marko

    Yeah I was thinking the same thing… and who knows maybe Tuchel will be at Arsenal in a year!

    God I hope so. To be fair too I also wouldn’t be opposed to nabbing Klopp off Pool tbh

  28. TitsMcGee

    Mhkitayrian to UTD improves his chances of winning the league than coming to us.

    Not Winning your own league in 12 years will do that to perception.

  29. freddylekgunner

    Funny Man utd will paying 220k to Ibrahimovic per week. He’s now a more slower version of Cavani, one will think they’ve learnt from their previous mistake

  30. raptora

    Yeah, Wenger said he’ll buy three players this summer. With the transfer of Xhaka we got ourselves the first one, so two more left. Let’s say a striker is a must. That leaves the last transfer either a right wing or a central back. My bet is CB and loan Chambers for a season so he toughens up. But what if an opportunity to sell Walcott arrives? And there are a bunch of great wings available atm, just the opposite of the striker’s market. Players like Miki (who can play through the center too), Payet, Reus, Mahrez, Draxler, Gotze etc. One would think that Wenger saying that our problem last season was not scoring enough goals, won’t be solved with signing a defensively minded midfielder, in the likes of Xhaka, a CB and just a single transfer on the attacking front.

  31. salparadisenyc

    United have some solid striking option with much room to grow in Rashford and Martial bringing in veteran w/ Ibrah’s pedigree can’t hurt. The money is irrelevant as they have it.

  32. salparadisenyc

    A Koz / Bonucci partnership would be a thing of beauty.
    Zero % chance but … why not pine a bit.

  33. Moray

    Raptora, that argument is sound but it is predicated on Wenger acting rationally in the transfer market, which almost never happens…

  34. N5

    Is it possible that’s Mhkitayrians agent is using Manure as a tool to increase the amount we bid/pay?

    Dortmund have confirmed that we’re the only club who have enquired so the rest is irrelevant. Jose might not even want him.

  35. Cesc Appeal

    Tunny

    We have the money, and we can do some selling as well, Walcott, Schez, Campbell, Debuchy the riff-raff on loan, and then even one of Ramsey or Wilshere, we can raise funds on top of that.

    I don’t buy into this whole 2-3 additions, don’t upset the applecart thing, if that is Wenger’s thinking then once again he’s wrong in the market, we don’t have anything worth protecting, new CB, new central midfielder, new RM/LM and new ST is what is critically needed.

    We’ve got one of those in Xhaka, though personally I want another in there, Kante preferably.

    If Wenger does go for incremental type change, yet more evidence of the fact this sorely needs to be his last year and we need to start looking at and tapping up Simeone, Tuchel, Bilic etc.

  36. Cesc Appeal

    Nasri5

    Fingers crossed, I could care less whether an agent flirted with United and then he ended up here, as long as we got him, the child inside him can be trussed up and thrown in the basement.

    Thing is, obviously you have to force the hand of the selling club, but also, you can sell it to a player, a personal phone call, a meeting, you outline why you want them, where this team is going, how you see their role, players get just as excited as fans if they think they are part of an exciting project.

    I think that is a huge problem at Arsenal, everyone in world football knows what we’re about and what we can’t do.

  37. Marko

    Is it possible that’s Mhkitayrians agent is using Manure as a tool to increase the amount we bid/pay?

    That’s literally the worst thing he could do. We generally get scared shitless when other teams are interested in players we want. It is possible though United have in fact no interest in him. Apparently they’re kind of interested in Draxler and I’m sure they’re probably interested in some winger in Portugal anyway. Or Ronaldo???

  38. raptora

    Now that I think about it, I might be tempted to go for Georginio Wijnaldum as the poor man’s Miki. The lad was the standout performer in a poorly performed team and finished with 11 goals and 5 assists. Still at 25 yo, with one season in England but loads of experience in the Netherlands, he has a lot of room to improve and is desperate for a way out of georgdies with Roma insterested. Surely if we ask about him he’ll be quickly on his way to London. His teammate, Moussa Sissoko, who offered himself to us, isn’t too bad either but a nothing more than a squad player I guess.

  39. Moray

    I think most of us would be happy with 3 or 4 out (on TOP of those out of contract) and 5 or 6 total coming in. It seems more likely Wenger is trying to get his business done and finished early however, to avoid the summer madness

  40. Joe

    The job he has on his hands with all the kids there (doesn’t have a great track record with working with them) is gonna be toug

    Marko

    He won the PL with the youngest ever squad.

  41. N5

    CA, exactly mate, selling Arsenal to a player is like trying to marry a woman promising a lifetime of adequate sex where she’ll never cum!!

    Marko, agreed it’s a dangerous game for the agent to do, Dick will run away with his tail between his legs if he sniffs opposition.

  42. Marko

    He won the PL with the youngest ever squad.

    When? First time around with a young Robben and Lampard and the likes or recently with young Hazard?

  43. Phd007

    selling Arsenal to a player is like trying to marry a woman promising a lifetime of adequate sex where she’ll never cum!!

    ———–

    I guess you are speaking from your own personal experience!!! 🙂

  44. jwl

    Joke Friday:

    John O’Reilly hoisted his beer and said, “Here’s to spending the rest of me life, between the legs of me wife!” That won him the top prize at the pub for the best toast of the night!

    He went home and told his wife, Mary, “I won the prize for the best toast of the night.” She said, “Aye, did ye now. And what was your toast?” John said, “Here’s to spending the rest of me life, sitting in church beside me wife.” “Oh, that is very nice indeed, John!” Mary said.

    The next day, Mary ran into one of John’s drinking buddies on the street corner. The man chuckled leeringly and said, “John won the prize the other night at the pub with a toast about you, Mary.” She said, “Aye, he told me, and I was a bit surprised meself. You know, he’s only been there twice in the last four years. Once he fell asleep, and the other time I had to pull him by the ears to make him come.”

  45. Alexanderhenry

    Bamford

    ‘Ten years of being an irrelevant and inadequate also-ran under Wenger has taken its toll on Arsenal’s image and standing in world football.”

    Agreed, if you substitute ‘wenger’ for ‘kroenke’.

  46. salparadisenyc

    The Azzurri has to be one of the best tournament teams. Dull and defensive then bites with venom, always finding a way. Though it quite possible this team not make the knockouts, we’ll probably see them go deep with less quality than previous years.

    Conte at Chelsea could echo Mourinho’s first run with the club but then one never knows he could pull an AVB but I seriously doubt it.

  47. tunnygriffboy

    We managed to get Ozil, Alexis and now Xhaka. We aren’t in that much of a ruin. Totally agree we could be more ruthless but players do still want to come.

    A really serious PL challenge and CL quarter/semi would really help us as well.

    Moray

    4 to 6 players comi g in ? Gulp. No way

    League will be a bun fight. Mourinho and Pep with unlimited funds, worryingly Klopp and Conte with no European football loads of time to work with their players and keep them rested. Pluschuck in West Ham, totts and Everton with a new manager and lots of funds.

    I can see everybody beating everybody

    Xhaka looks likea good signing and if we buy a striker, right forward and a defender wecould give as good as we get.

  48. raptora

    You gotta ask yourself, if Abramovic didn’t like how boring and unattractive his Chelsea side was under the first reign of Mourinho, why would he sign Antonio Conte? Italy has made like 3 goal chances for 180 minutes of football. It’s also true that they look like a defensive fortress so far but was that what the russian billioner was looking for? And would it work in the EPL?

  49. tunnygriffboy

    N5

    Are you sure we’re the only club to bid for Mikhtaryan ? Are you sure we have made a bid ?

    We don’t do agents, no wonder he’s looking to get his pot of gold off Woodward

  50. N5

    Tunny not really sure buddy but I read it on Bild I think I believe. Apparently Dortmund stated only Arsenal had enquired but it may all be nonsense.

  51. STV

    That b/w the legs joke is really funny 🙂 jlw.

    Mikhtaryan will be here next season if Wenger really wants him. End of.
    The question is is he really on to transfers with the view of making Arsenal a title challnger rather than keeping top4???

    I think hes not.

    So, any top player’s arrival can’t be expected. The fact that he took the Euro bullshitter job rather than seriously looking for players, transfers, etc.. shows his frivolous attitude towards squad improvement.

  52. tunnygriffboy

    Stv

    Once again Wenger can be lambasted for many thingsbut doing punditry work isn’t one I feel. He’s on the European mainland, has mobile phone, conference call facilities and things transfer wise are at a standstill due to the championship.

    Once teams start being knocked out then the transfer merryground will begin and the domino effect will start.

  53. N5

    Can Dortmund afford to sell anymore? I think they’d rather keep him for another year and lose him for nothing next?

  54. tunnygriffboy

    N5

    I’ve been thinking that. It’s Lewandowski all over again. Depends how much of a fuss he kicks up

    Thing is we don’t really know who we’ve made enquiries/offers for who we’re interested in or who may have turned us down.

    It’s all rumour and counter rumour and we all tend to get disappointed/angry about not signing players that we may never have been in for.

    I just hope that come the start of the season we have addressed what we need player wise and not left us a couple of players short. Xhaka looks like a great start.

  55. Bamford10

    Emirates

    Yes, but I say a good variety of different things in my posts. Yes, I have certain themes, but you tend to have a single theme,namely, Arsenal will not be spending as much money as some here would like, will not be making wholesale changes, etc.

    I was just pointing out that it is June 17th and I think we’ve heard the above from you every day since the start of the summer window.

    Not a big deal.

  56. Marko

    Can Dortmund afford to sell anymore? I think they’d rather keep him for another year and lose him for nothing next?

    They’d be stupid to allow another big name player to leave for free. Allowing Lewandowski to leave for nothing accomplished absolutely nothing

  57. Emiratesstroller

    Bamford 10

    Actually you have posted something like 150 posts in last 4 days.

    Forgive me but I write a fraction of that number and there is actually a considerable variety on what I write if you care to look back at the posts.

    Today for example I commented about the Referendum and I have written
    in last week on the European Championships and lack of good strikers and
    centre backs in game not to mention other topics.