Shooting for the 3 in a row record | Pep is actioning a plan already, YIKES

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WHAT AM I DOING HERE

‘The ham and eggs was a mistake, i just know it’

Oh good morning you beautiful people.

Sorry I didn’t post yesterday, had a fly in visit from a pal and I didn’t really feel like there was much worth talking about.

Today though, we need to get into the spirit of FA Cup. Our second tie of the week against a testing Watford side.

Good news, we have ALL the centre backs to choose from. If that’s the case, grab me a cup of Calum Chambers and Gabriel please. Well, give me that if we’re planning on going all out against Barca next week. We don’t want to destroy our best centre backs before Everton next week!

Wenger is wary of the Watford front two pairing…

“You have Watford who are doing extremely well. They are very prepared and very efficient. They have two strikers who are very efficient with Ighalo and Deeney and we worked very hard to control the game (last time we played them).

He also dismissed reports we’d be in for Deeney. Some world-class trolling from the Daily Star on that one.

This game is pretty important. The FA Cup and the glory of winning it three times in a row feels like the sort of season saving finale Wenger needs to get away with his failings this season. It’d also be a nice tonic for finishing third in the league for us.

I don’t hold out any hope for Barcelona this week. I’d probably rest the whole team and shoot for an Everton win. Even if by some miracle we did beat Barca at their place, we’d still not win the competition. Does Wenger have it in him to admit that’s the case? Unlikely… but, he did say he still believes we can win the league.

“I haven’t given up on the Premier League at all and I’ve said that many times, nor the Champions League,”

“We have to take care of the next minute and the next minute is an FA Cup game. Is it the best chance to win a trophy? It’s still far away. We must win the next game and prove that we can show consistency again.

“I feel we can have a run but we know how quickly it can change – we lost two games and suddenly looked like we would be in the Championship next year so it is game by game and all we know is we can not afford any more slips ups like we did against Swansea (a 2-1 home defeat).”

I love his little barb at the end. It says…

‘Guys, we only lost out on winning the league this season. No biggie you f*cking cry babies’

Wenger is right though. We are still in with a shout. My challenge with believing is that I know other teams will lose. Spurs are fucked as are Leicester. They will drop points. It’s just you know that we too will drop points. It doesn’t feel like the last 9 games are going to be a suite of wins.

But, miracles happen. We’re scoring goals again. Our top four is in jeopardy.

It COULD happen.

Let’s see how it pans out.

Anyway, before I go. Pep Guardiola hasn’t started his job yet, but he’s already planning for next season. He’s dropping a bid for Gundogan, a ball playing DM that we’ve been tracking forever and he’s going to try and land young striking superstar Leroy Sane. He already has a vision for City.

Arsene, what’s your plan this summer? Are we already losing out on players? WHY WON’T YOU SPEND THE CASH!

Right… me done.

OVER AND OUT x

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  1. Cesc Appeal

    ‘but all indications are that they’re both very happy at Arsenal.’

    Aside from body language, results, form, style of play currently and refusing to sign new deals.

  2. TitsMcGee

    but all indications are that they’re both very happy at Arsenal.”

    Yea Ozil looks thrilled out there.

  3. Wallace

    Bamford

    are you talking about sacking him now or in the summer? sacking him now i think would be a mistake.

  4. WengerEagle

    ‘Wenger basically guarantees you top 4. ‘

    If the last 12 years are anything to go by he also guarantees that you won’t challenge for the league, he’s never won the UCL despite having the undisputed best team in Europe for a period of 2-3 years in the early 2000’s and if the last 6 years are anything to go by, he GUARANTEES that we will be smashed in the last 16 of the UCL and get nowhere close to winning it, so what exactly are we finishing in the top 4 for?

    Why is Wenger still an outstanding candidate to manage this club?

    Does he still unearth hidden gems saving us a load of money on transfers? Nope.

    Does he get the absolute maximum out of the bunch of players he has at his disposal? Nope.

    Has he improved on his performances for the last half a decade in the league or Europe? Nope.

    We’ve been knocked out of the F.A Cup now, are we doing any better than last season now? Nope.

    What case can you put forward for him to still run things besides lazily saying, ‘there’s no-one better out there’?

    I’ll give you a few candidates off the top of my head of managers who are overachieving big time with their resources right now:

    1) Marcelino at Villarreal:

    Took over them in early 2013 when they were a struggling Segunda Division outfit in Spain, after he took them over in January they went on to lose only one match for the rest of the season and surge up the table to finish 2nd and win promotion to La Liga. In 2013/14 they finished in 6th place in their first season back in La Liga.

    Last season they finished in 6th again and this season they are now sitting 5 points clear in 4th place not far behind Real Madrid. They have had to sell off most of their best players over the last few years in Vietto, Dos Santos, Gabriel, Moreno, Cheryshev, Uche and Mussachio to injury and yet they have improved season and season spending very little money and playing an attractive brand of attacking football.

    2) Diego Simeone- Need I even have to explain this man’s CV?

    3) Allegri at Juvventus- Again, his record speaks for itself. Has had much greater success in the Champions League than Conte even had. He’s had to rebuild their first XI this year with the departures of Pirlo, Vidal and Tevez and despite having an awful start and being near the relegation zone after 10 odd matches, they now sit at the summit by 3 points.

    4) Pal Dardai (Hertha Berlin):

    Only 39 years old, 3 years younger than Tuchel. Took over Hertha Berlin last summer and currently has them sitting in 3rd in the Bundesliga on 45 points, 4 points ahead of Schalke and 3 points ahead of Monchengladbach in 5th and 4th.

    Hertha Berlin stayed in the Bundesliga last season on GOAL DIFFERENCE, they were on 35 points after 34 matches.

    He also was the interim Hungary NT manager and was responsible for them qualifiying for their first major tournament in 44 YEARS. That’s an outstanding candidate if I ever saw one.

    That’s me barely trying, I could find another 3 candidates if I was given more time.

  5. TitsMcGee

    Mertesaker’s perfecting the art of blame deflection. must come from his boss. he’s learnt well, Wenger will be proud”

    BFG is one of many players that will be axed by a new competent manager.

  6. Paulinho

    “The stupidity of the average Arsenal fan is astounding, if you didn’t see this coming, in a way, you don’t really have much weight behind your opinions, because this was so, so incredibly obviously going to happen.”

    They simply do not understand football. They spew platitudes about this player or that player to flesh things out, but ultimately they go completely on results and are simply incapable of making a judgement that runs contrary to the narrative that winning games creates. So you get “but we’re top the league” and “by all means complain if we fail again but we’re top of the league right now, get behind the team!”.

    They can’t see the flaws that are evident even during our little runs to the top of the league, and are completely oblivious to the mental deficiencies that afflict us year after year, so they literally just flip-flop with the results because that’s how superficial their understanding of the game is.

  7. Champagne charlie

    If Wenger had signed with us 3 years ago he’d be out of a job tomorrow, the sentiment surrounding the man is now detrimental to our success and growth as a club. His time has passed, there’s no shame there.

  8. gambon

    Also, lets be really honest, and say Wenger has absolutely no excuses anymore.

    I hate the guy, and have thought he was finished for a long time. But until the last few years, I could at least rationalise the defence he got from his fan boys.

    That is over now. He has no defence left.

    12 years without a PL title. No othertop club will ever accept that, EVER. Remind me exactly why we moved?

    Now, not winning the PL for 12 years isnt the issue, it happens to some teams. But I guarantee you none of them teams would just sit back and refuse to change things.

    Wenger has continually complained about financial doping. Well, where is the doping from Leicester and Spurs Arsene? Like I said, in the PL, he has no leg to stand on.

    We havent qualified for a CL quarter final in 6 seasons. Again, no leg to stand on. We have blown the R16 game in the fist leg every year. This isnt just failure, this is spectacular failure. Wenger keeps complaining about drawing top teams. That isnt luck Arsene, that is down to us repeatedly failing to win our group. When was the last time we even won a CL grouyp?

    Then when we finally get an easy draw, Monaco, again we get humiliated in the first leg and are out of it before we even play the return leg.

    The FA Cup has been Wengers shield in recent years. But lets be brutally honest, we have been very, very lucky in that competition.

    In the last 3 seasons, we have played 10 out of 12 games at home. In fact the only game we have had in the FA Cup where we werent favourites was Man Utd away.

    We have had 2 Championship teams in the Semi Finals and made extremely hard work of it.

    We have played 2 appalling PL teams in the final, both of whom got relegated the following year.

    Now trophies are important, and it was great to win the 2 FA Cups, but we definitely got very lucky in that competition. Any team that has so many home draws, and such easy Wembley opponents would have to be pretty terrible to not win it.

    Like I say, when we were building flats, and finishing behind Fergies UTD there were excuses.

    Now there are none.

    We are being outplayed by Monaco, Watford, Spurs and Leicester.

  9. Rambo Ramsey

    Sanchez after his first season at Arsenal:
    ” It was a bittersweet season. I would have liked to do better in the PL and CL ”

    Sanchez recently: ” Arsenal lack the self belief to win the title ”

    Ozil a couple months ago: ” I am in no hurry to sign a new Arsenal contract “

  10. Champagne charlie

    Rambo Ramsey

    If both left it wouldn’t hurt us all that much. We’ve so little of a balanced squad that losing Ozil would barely have an impact, I mean his talents are all but wasted on our toothless team anyway.

  11. gambon

    Wallace

    Are you kidding me.

    Ozil and Sanchez have both not signed contracts, heading into their last 2 years. Actions speak louder than words.

    Sanchez said very recently that we lack winning attitude.

    Ozil looks like he feels severely betrayed out there.

    Howon earth did you come up with the idea they are happy.

  12. Bamford10

    If you were simply trying to optimize results going forward, I’d switch to 4-4-2 for a number of reasons. Something like the below:

    ___________Cech
    Bell___Cham__Kosc___Monr
    ______Coqu____Elneny
    Joel_____________________Ozil
    _____Sanchz____Wlbck

    Welbeck is the one attacking player who looks interested, and Sanchez is doing nothing from his current positioning. This set-up would at least allow those two to play along and in behind the opposing back four.

    You could also play Giroud up top with Sanchez and play Welbeck in the inside-wide role opposite Ozil.

  13. wenker-wanger

    Sack Wenger at the earliest opportunity. having No manager is better than having that bungling idiot. The players have already held their own meeting anyway. I see no reason to keep him. To coin a phrase if Wenger offers to go for £20 million, bite his hand off immediately. Is he THAT bad???? YES.

  14. Wallace

    WE

    is Marcelino’s English good?

    you really think Simeone’s a realistic option?

    Allegri….you think Arsenal are bigger than Juventus?

    Dardai…sounds impressive. would you be confident about him coming into a new league/language/culture that’s awash with money and challenging City/Utd/Chelsea?

  15. Champagne charlie

    Bamford

    That’s a terrible team shape. Ozil wide is asking for the opposition to double up on Monreal. For someone who acts like they know football you come out with some stellar nonsense

  16. Bamford10

    Like so:

    ___________Cech
    Bell___Cham__Kosc___Monr
    ______Coqu____Elneny
    Wlbck__________________Ozil
    _____Sanchz____Giroud

  17. DUIFG

    welback is playing well as he wants to get into the england set up before euros, i doubt his recent form is anything to do with wenger.

    want welly up top till the end of the season

  18. seg

    Wenger is in it for the money, forget the sanctimonious horse crap he and his disciples spout about moral standardad and love for the club. It’s not impossible to get rid, but it ain’t gonna be easy especially with this ownwer and this board! The fans has thier job cut out for them.

  19. Wallace

    gambon

    “Howon earth did you come up with the idea they are happy.”

    “Arsenal is now my family. It’s very fun [to be here] and now the focus is on the Premier League.”

    – Sanchez (Feb, 2016)

  20. WengerEagle

    ‘Dardai…sounds impressive. would you be confident about him coming into a new league/language/culture that’s awash with money and challenging City/Utd/Chelsea?’

    You could put the exact same argument to the appointment of Tuchel though.

    Pocchetino’s English was virtually non-existent when he was appointed Southampton manager and look at him now, he’s flying.

    You can’t be serious that we shouldn’t sign a brilliant managerial candidate on the condition that they might have great English surely?

    Languages can be learned very quickly, Pep picked up German in the space of a year.

    ‘you really think Simeone’s a realistic option?’

    I could see him being interested with the right project. He’s already achieved more at Atletico Madrid than anyone else has there for decades. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s sick of the sight of Barcelona by now, having to compete with the best team in the world on a weekly basis can’t be that much fun.

    ‘Allegri….you think Arsenal are bigger than Juventus?’

    Didn’t say that but to be fair, are City bigger than Bayern Munich? Of course not, didn’t stop them attracting Pep.

    He’s won Serie A and the Italian Cup already, if he retains Serie A he could be open to a new challenge.

  21. Bamford10

    Champagne

    You’re the clueless one, mate. Our wide players, e.g., Sanchez, don’t provide much cover as it is, and I’m simply brainstorming re what one would do to play 4-4-2. You certainly wouldn’t play Ozil centrally. Stop ankle-biting me. You don’t know nearly as much as you imagine.

  22. Hunter

    Let’s face it guys and gals,
    We have a crap Manager,a crap team,crap Owner&Board,crap medical team,crap scouts,crap coaches and a CRAP future!?The worse thing that can happen is Wenger gets removed as Manager BUT then is moved upstairs to board level.We will NEVER be rid of him and he will be like ‘The sword of Damacles’ behind any future manager.His influence will haunt us ,the only way I will be happy is if he is either sacked or leave with dignity on his own accord without accepting any other position in the club!

  23. arsene nose best

    the club is FUCKED!!!!!, kronke’s comments have hit home harder then a k o blow from mike tyson, where we go from here i have no idea, all i know is it’s not going to be pretty, FFS…

  24. Champagne charlie

    Bamford

    Tbh your entire know it all narrative is pretty tiresome. If there’s someone here that doesn’t know as much as he claims then you’re the clear winner without question. Forever attempting pissing contests with other fans to try and one up them.

    You’re a fraud and your knowledge of football is thin whilst your arrogance and idea of self importance is unnaturally high. Get over yourself

  25. Wallace

    WengerEagle

    “You could put the exact same argument to the appointment of Tuchel though…..You can’t be serious that we shouldn’t sign a brilliant managerial candidate on the condition that they might have great English surely?

    Tuchel’s doing it at Dortmund, so he’s proving he can handle the pressure of a big club.

    and yes, i think it’s very f*ckin’ important that the guy in charge is able to communicate effectively with the people he’s managing. you really don’t think it’s that big a thing?

  26. Bamford10

    And if you did play Ozil centrally in a 4-4-2, it would have to be like this, as there is no way that Coquelin could play as the lone anchor (no distribution):

    ___________Cech
    Bell___Cham__Kosc___Monr
    __________Elneny
    Joel________Ozil______Wlbck
    _____Sanchz____Giroud

    Take that, if you prefer, dipshit.

  27. Wallace

    seg

    “@Wallace is Man city bigger than Bayern? Pep is coming from.

    no, but he was looking for a new challenge in a new country. changes things a bit.

  28. Dissenter

    Wallace,
    “gambon“Howon earth did you come up with the idea they are happy.”“Arsenal is now my family. It’s very fun [to be here] and now the focus is on the Premier League.”– Sanchez (Feb, 2016)”

    C’mon man. You know that was drafted by his PR team, right.
    Alexis is lime any other top player who want to win stuff. The team is coming apart and it’s defenders pitted against strikers at the moment. The fan base are fighting each other and the manager is slagging off legitimate criticism as “farcical”.
    Arsenal is no “family” any neutral would want to be part off.

  29. Bamford10

    And “pissing contests”? Doesn’t really happen all that much anymore. You’re the one who got into it here with WE here yesterday re Sanchez, no? Yes, I believe that was you. And here you are again today, ankle-biting me.

    You’re the issue, mate.

    And I don’t claim to know more than anyone else, but I do know a few things about the game, thanks.

  30. Rambo Ramsey

    Champagne Charlie, why would you say that? if it weren’t for Sanchez, we would of finished midtable last season. without Ozil, we’d be in a far worse position this season. Similarly Ramsey and Persie the seasons before. in recent seasons, Arsenal have relied more on one player playing out of his skin than teamwork, mental strength and cohesion that Wenger blabs about.

  31. wenker-wanger

    I hate to say it but fans going to watch arsenal are like diners at a shit restaurant being served shit and being overcharged. Going the following week to the same place, same food same charge same overall shit.Some complain mildly and the arrogant French waiter says…we only serve qualidee food, The yank owner hears of some complaints but declines any change since he has a full house each week.
    Yknow nothing will happen until the stadium is less than half full, but you just hope Wenger throws in the towel at least.

  32. WengerEagle

    Wallace

    He’s not under pressure at Dortmund though, they finished in 7th last season and were sitting bottom of the league near Christmas, he was very fortunate that he came into the job after a season like that if we’re being honest. Anything from 4th upwards would have been regarded as a successful season after last year.

    I’m not dismissing his achievements, he’s been fantastic and the way he has Dortmund playing is fascinating, I just think that you’re being a tad contradictory especially when you consider that Arsene himself came from absolutely nowhere to manage the club.

    Dardai in particular interests me, he’s performing miracles at Hertha Berlin and I’ve watched them a few times this season, they are an outstanding outfit.

    ‘and yes, i think it’s very f*ckin’ important that the guy in charge is able to communicate effectively with the people he’s managing. you really don’t think it’s that big a thing?’

    Of course, it’s a hugely important factor but as I’ve pointed out, Pochetino had next to no English when he came over and Pep had no German 9 months before he was appointed manager.

    This is going by the assumption that Marcelino and Dardai have no English as well which we don’t even know for sure.

    At some point we’re going to have to roll the dice, it’s literally the same shit-show every season now with Wenger in charge.

  33. Paulinho

    “and yes, i think it’s very f*ckin’ important that the guy in charge is able to communicate effectively with the people he’s managing. you really don’t think it’s that big a thing?”

    He could just do what Wenger does and say nothing.

    Let them “work it out for themselves”.

  34. Champagne charlie

    Bamford

    I got into with WE about Sanchez? You mean we debated a stance regarding Arsenal where we shared respective opinions that on both sides where prefaced by saying “you’re entitled to your opinion but…”. You miss the part where this as Arsenal blog obviously. WE said something and I disagreed and said as much, we debated and that was that – no name calling and dick measuring.

    NOT the same as your bs you throw about on here. Only a couple of weeks ago after the United game you were commenting galore about how you were right about this and that, acting like a complete mong. That’s your idea of knowing a few things about the game apparently, having an opinion and believing it’s the only worthwhile assertion.

    Even now with your team selections you’re saying this is the only way something can be done, it would have to be this way or that. You don’t give opinions you share a point of view that nobody can argue in your mind. But I’m the issue, won’t argue that given the source of the opinion.

  35. Bamford10

    Rambo

    Champagne was actually defending Sanchez against WE, who was saying that if you could get 40m for Sanchez, it would make sense to sell him. WE wasn’t saying Sanchez wasn’t valuable last season. Was simply saying he is not as effective a player as some think and you could do better with 40m.

    I agree with WE, btw, though I do think Sanchez is a talent.

  36. Dissenter

    We don’t need to sign a manager BETTER than Wenger.
    We just need a competent one that will use ALL the resources appropriately.

    To think he dithered on signing because there weren’t exceptional quality players available only to sign average players like Gabriel and Elneny.

    Elneny’s technique is average at best…and I’m being polite.
    Gabriel isn’t a good defender.
    Chamber’s wasn’t worth 5 million talk-less of the 16 million we paid.

  37. Arsene's Nurse

    Actually Bamford you wouldn’t play Ozil in a 4-4-2 at all unless he plays with the striker:

    Back 5
    Welbeck Coquelin Elneny Campbell
    ———-Ozil
    ————–Sanchez

    is better. Far more balance with left footed player on the left and vice versa, two hard working wide players and a solidish centre. You give Ozil and Sanchez the freedom.

    That’s just about the best we could do in the current situation. I refuse to put Giroud in the formation because he doesn’t fit; too slow, doesn’t anticipate, too one footed, hair model etc.

  38. Champagne charlie

    Rambo Ramsey

    I think it’s all too easy to suggest a team relies on a player etc, you could say this year is the same with Leicester and Mahrez/Vardy. Every year with each team you can attribute a stand out or more decisive player but I don’t think you can say with any certainty if that player wasn’t there the entire team wouldn’t do as well…. I think someone else would step up.

    I say that about Ozil in particular because his entire X factor is on giving a killer pass. Absolutely redundant when your finishers are who they are in our team, and Sanchez this season hasn’t been anything we would greatly miss (although I rate him highly for the record).

    My point: take Ozil and Sanchez out the team (known they’d be replaced in some capacity) and I fail to see the major hurt. That being said the goal should surely be to supplement the team with the necessary parts to support these talents. A DM, CB, ST of high calibre would get more out of Ozil and co.

  39. DUIFG

    its kind of pointless rounding on sanchez at this point. he came over from barca like a man possessed, chasing everything down, like a warrior.

    this season he just looks a bit beaten up, hes seen who the true farce is and its not the media/fans/critics its the old man in the dugout.

  40. S Asoa

    About “too late to fire Wenger”
    Better late than never. The fellow is lying ,incompetent Con who initially thrived on a no nonsense defensive unit he inherited ,with leaders who would not stand nonsense. Wenger the dictator slowly and prematurely dismantled this core and could never reproduce it . Wenger chose fannies he could control. Others inter Club he bought over by salaries beyond their worth. Wenger has been a maggot in the basket.
    Wenger is unsackable because of quid pro when he convinced Lady Jane to sell to Kroenke rather than Usmanov. To protect from backlash from the Russian , the exclusion of Usmanov from the Board inspite of over 30% shareholding was introduced.
    And we have people defending such a mean ,calculating person. Get your heads examined.

  41. Bamford10

    Nurse

    Agree that Ozil isn’t a great fit for a 4-4-2, but I don’t think he’d be any better as a withdrawn forward. In fact I think he would be worse.

    Not a big deal. Was just brainstorming anyways.

  42. Mr. J

    wenker-wanger
    March 14, 2016 13:18:58

    “I hate to say it but fans going to watch arsenal are like diners at a shit restaurant being served shit and being overcharged…”

    Yep.

  43. Red&White4life

    “We don’t need to sign a manager BETTER than Wenger.”

    Would be impossible to find anyway lol

  44. arsene nose best

    sanchez reminds me of arshavin, he busted a gut to score 4 goals at anfield just for the defence to let him down, he probably thought to himself after that, what’s the fucking point, same with sanchez. we have sanchez, ozil and cech, what’s the point in having them players and surrounding them with utter cunts..

  45. Dream10

    Sanchez has a top mentality and can be a very good player in spurts. But he’s put on a pedestal he doesn’t deserve. Fans have been watching 5/10 quality attackers over the last ten years, so I sympathize. It’s the hope that kills

  46. Rambo Ramsey

    Champagne Charlie, but it is true to some extent. having a team full of competent players who know how to do their roles is vital but that doesn’t guarantee success. you need a couple of players above class of the rest of the team. They are the ones who change a decent season into title winning season. they’re not called main players for nothing.

    Arsenal without a Henry or a DB10 back in the good old days, Barca without a Messi, United without the young Wayne Rooney, Chelsea without Abramovitch, even Leicester you have to say its pretty reaching to say they would be where they are without Mahrez

  47. Arsene's Nurse

    Bamford – this again is one of Wenger’s faults. Could we play a decent 4-4-2 with every player in the squad fit? I don’t think so. We lack the personnel to do it properly.

    Wenger collects small AMs but isn’t keen on a tall dynamic CM player. It limits us tactically. We are therefore hopelessly predictable. It’s 4-2-3-1 with players who don’t really make that formation much of a threat or it’s back to 4-3-3.

    There is no innovation any more.

  48. Dissenter

    The problem with Sanchez is that Wenger failed to build on his successes from last season. We should have signed a Konoplyanka/Dybala type player this season to complement Sanchez and draw players away from him, more so when the second season is typically more difficult because he’s a known quantity in the league.

    Instead Wenger thought he had won the lottery and splashed out big money on Walcott. Only very few players can keep up the form that Sanchez showed last season, talk-less of all the games he played. We need other options, that’s what big team’s should have.

    Sanchez has earned the right to have an off-period, just look at Hazard’s form currently. Them two were the top-2 players of last season but at least he didn’t drop off as much as Hazard.

  49. Leedsgunner

    Honestly, Wengers makes out that football management is like some hallowed sacred language only open to a few.

    In the Grove community alone, there are accomplished doctors, lawyers, financiers, company directors, consultants, accountants, hard working businesspeople etc. …. who deal with high pressure and high value and much more worthy vocations than sending out 11 men to play football week by week… (and doing some training sessions). Real pressure is making ends meet every day without the benefit of £150 000 a week into your bank account.

    Wenger likes to think he’s special. In reality, he’s been just very fortunate. He’s no better than us. He likes to pride himself on his intelligence but why? Why when he makes the same mistakes again and again?

    What has he done in reality, recently to speak down to people like he does?

  50. Dream10

    Bamford

    Özil takes the up the position of a second striker. He spends time closer to Giroud in comparison to the CMs. We would more effective if we had a Reus type who is better making runs in behind from wide areas, as opposed to a Sanchez, who wants to drop deep so play can go through him. Wenger is at fault for not trying to reign Sanchez in and forcing him to adapt. He did for a couple of matches, but he reverts to type.

    Players like Wilshere and Sanchez love hero ball. Can’t build a side around them.

  51. Phd007

    Wallace
    and yes, i think it’s very f*ckin’ important that the guy in charge is able to communicate effectively with the people he’s managing. you really don’t think it’s that big a thing?
    ———————-
    Wallace you are on a roll today mate..It’s amazing the lengths the stalwart AKBS go, to defend Arsene.The common line,”Who’s out there?” “Who’s better than Arsene?” is really becoming monotonous and short sighted.

    Now your line of argument,is whether they have a good command of the English language to communicate effectively with the players..

    Smh..Now you’re clutching at straws…

    Wallace just to recap a little..
    Benitez when he first came to England…He couldn’t speak a word of English..

    At the end of the day,he got to two CL finals-Won one,lost the other.Won a FAC..I think he managed to communicate his thoughts very well ..

    Now prior to him,we had good ‘ole Tinkerman…Yes Ranieiri at Chelsea.He couldn’t speak a word of English either ..Granted he didn’t win much.But Chelsea came second under him in the EPL..

    Ancelloti’s English wasn’t so good either.But he took lessons..Look what he won at Chelsea..

    Mate honestly give it up..You are beginning to sound utterly ridiculous…

    The world won’t suddenly end,when Arsene lives..It’s ok,life beyond Arsene goes on..
    Treat the unknown with youthful optimism.Embrace it..Not fear it dude..

    //Let it go

  52. Dissenter

    I cant think of any knowledgeable football personality that won’t describe Sanchez as 100% world class

    Why is he getting all the snide criticisms here.
    He’s an explosive player that has to be used properly. He needs another player of comparable explosiveness and dribbling ability to be effective. He’s not your man if the goal is to sideways pass the ball 40 yards away from goal.

    We should have built on the foundation of last season. Sanchez needs another dribbling striker to draw away play from him. Right now, he’s almost always the go-to-guy because of his eagerness.

    This is a guy who chased every ball to close down with the Barca attitude, now he’s become accultured to playing with people with crappy attitudes.

    He won’t have any problems finding a bigger club than Arsenal and will probably the first out if we come fifth.

  53. Wallace

    Rambo

    “Wallace, no offense but you are resembling more and more that person who convinces himself everything will be alright even though he’s in a burning house.”

    no, I’m saying sacking him’s the easy part. like the US getting rid of Saddam Hussein. but if you haven’t got a plan for after that…

    people on here are fed up with 3rd/4th, champions league football every year, and the FA cup, so the next manager better be good.

  54. salparadisenyc

    Wengers squeezed the lemon and theres nothing left. Obvious to most, maybe even all involved its time for a change. I really have my doubts well replace him this summer though, regardless of supporter rage. With the owner/board stating he sees out current deal in its entirety. At the core those making this decision don’t have the stomach for it and Wenger makes them money.

    In terms of eventual replacements, i’m less than optimistic if you look an whose making this decision. Kroenke and Gazidas.

  55. Dissenter

    Red,
    “Wenger failed to build on successes from last season?What successes ..?

    I was referring to Sanchez’ form of last season. We should have bought a similar player like Konoplyanka but instead Wenger took the safe route by giving Sanchez and Giroud bigger contracts.

  56. Ja_Gunner

    Just adding to the debate. I believe we could play 4-4-2 diamond with Ozil at the top of the diamond. Contrary to popular belief Ozil while not a good tackler covers a lot of miles. I see teams like Watford and Atletico playing 4-4-2…. we cant play the flat four but we could play a diamond…

    ………………………….Coquelin……………………
    ………..Ramsey…………………………Wilshere…….
    …………………………….Ozil…………………………….
    ……………….Sanchez……………Lukaku……………
    Or just substitute better players where necessary…..we already play narrow anyway…..atleast this way we have two strikers

  57. Champagne charlie

    Rambo
    Yes but I don’t think comparing Mahrez and Ozil is fair. Ozil hasn’t had anything close to the impact Mahrez has at Leicester, and the idea of there being someone else to step up is true of teams with great resources.

    Before Ozil at CAM we had Cazorla who was superb there with double digit assists AND goals in the league. Look, losing players that good is always something to adjust to, but Ozil and Sanchez are not in the same category as Henry, RVP etc in years past.

  58. Ja_Gunner

    ………………Coquelin……………
    Ramsey……………Wilshere
    …………………..Ozil………………..
    ….Sanchez……..Lukaku…..

  59. Rambo Ramsey

    “no, I’m saying sacking him’s the easy part. like the US getting rid of Saddam Hussein. but if you haven’t got a plan for after that…”

    bloody ‘ell 🙂

  60. Rambo Ramsey

    Champagne Charlie, there is a chance they could be as good with better teammates no? selling them would be like starting from scratch again and I think we’ve had enough of those. .

  61. Phd007

    wenker-wanger
    March 14, 2016 13:18:58“I hate to say it but fans going to watch arsenal are like diners at a shit restaurant being served shit and being overcharged…”

    ———————————————–
    Yep & then repeatedly going back for more of the same at the shit restaurant for a decade,and seeing the overcharge increase year on year..With the quality of the food getting progressively worse.

    Complaining,whining about the shit service..But still paying top dollar at the most expensive restaurant in the world.

    & when you ask them why do you still go there?

    They reply with:” First of all,I’m a loyal customer.Always will be,always shall be”

    Your point out to them,why moan then,if you know it’s shit & you continue to pay?

    Then they get angry & personal.And counter with:”What do you know about restaurants?Have you been to any in your life? You know nothing about restaurants.I doubt you could afford to go to one,much less pay for an overpriced shitty restaurant..Show me the colour of your money.Whilst we at it,what’s your job & your contribution to society?”

    That’s how they sound..Utterly pathetic..Devoid of logic & reasoning..

  62. Dream10

    Dissenter

    A wide ball carrier like a prime Ribery would be fantastic. It would open up more space for Özil. The thing is Sanchez wants more time on the ball. He wants to be the conductor of the show. At Udinese he was the main man. Same for Chile. Same at Arsenal when Özil was injured.
    He took a step down to join us from Barça to be a star man and have more touches instead of being a poacher. However, he’s inefficient.

  63. Danny

    S Asoa
    March 14, 2016 13:31:55
    About “too late to fire Wenger”
    Better late than never. The fellow is lying ,incompetent Con who initially thrived on a no nonsense defensive unit he inherited ,with leaders who would not stand nonsense. Wenger the dictator slowly and prematurely dismantled this core and could never reproduce it .
    ——————————————–
    Can’t agree woth this at all. He replaced Seaman, Adams, Bould, Winterburn and Dixon with Lehmann, Campbell, Toure, Cole, and Laurent.

  64. ADKB

    “I hate to say it but fans going to watch arsenal are like diners at a shit restaurant being served shit and being overcharged…”

    Like buying a stale kebab for the price of sushi at a 5-star restaurant!

  65. Leedsgunner

    Wenger should have quit whilst he was ahead. He should have left in 2006 after the Champion’s League Final loss.

    “Can’t agree woth this at all. He replaced Seaman, Adams, Bould, Winterburn and Dixon with Lehmann, Campbell, Toure, Cole, and Laurent.”

    True… then he replaced those with…

    Lehmann, Campbell, Toure, Cole, and Lauren with W. “Water Bottle” Szecesney, Johann “Arsenal.com Djourou, Sanderos, and Santos… 🙂

    Yep. All quality players. 🙂

  66. Emiratesstroller

    Okay for once let’s focus not on sacking Wenger and talk about succession
    when he leaves, which will happen almost certainly not later than the end
    of the current contract.

    I invite posters to come up with “realistic alternatives” and not just as is too
    often the case anyone is better than him.

    The hard facts are that the options are very limited for a variety of reasons:

    1. Arsenal will never employ a manager who is “controversial” or has slagged the club or criticised its management. That will exclude automatically someone like Mourinho.

    2. Arsenal will want to make an appointment if possible which fits with the
    club’s culture and profile. That means bringing in someone who is not going to want to spend annually £100 million plus on new players. They will want him to work within a budget.

    3. The club will want evolution rather than revolution. Arsenal is a club who
    tend to be more patient than others. They would prefer to find the right
    candidate rather than immediate success even if the projects takes three years to produce results.

    The only manager who I think that Arsenal would regret for not having recruited had Wenger decided to leave this season is Guardiola. The one drawback with him is that he seldom stays in a job longer than three years.

    Personally I doubt that Arsenal would have gone for any of the other managers recruited including Klopp, LVG, Hiddinck or Benitez.

    The one manager that I would consider carefully is Frank de Boer providing
    that he came with Dennis Bergkamp. He fits the club’s profile and is working at a club which by necessity has to work with financial prudence and is
    also very much focussed with youth development.

    Bergkamp will never be a Manager in his own right at a major club because
    of his current aversion to flying, but he would prove to be a major asset, because of his Arsenal pedigree, age, football intelligence and relatively low
    profile.

    So if you don’t agree come up with some realistic names.

  67. ADKB

    Sanchez came to Arsenal and fired on all cylinders. Now he’s settled to the Arsene way, why are we surprised? Elneny’s first game – the guy was like a breath of fresh air, firing shots from outside the box. What has happened to him?

    The answer is the mother of all answers to everything wrong at Arsenal – our manager.

  68. Champagne charlie

    Rambo

    I said as much. The first priority has to be to surround them with better players. But if they wanted to leave I don’t think we’d be too troubled, as the 80 mil we’d get could be used properly to address the glaring holes in the squad.

    Only trouble is Wenger isn’t the man to use such a budget. What would I do? I’d buy hummels/stones, xhaka/gundogan, Higuain/Ibra and then we start to look the part (with a different manager of course).

  69. Dissenter

    Wenger is obviously a very flawed manager, not too many gooners would disagree with this assertion.

    It’s just that even a broken Wenger still puts a lot of gloss on the decrepit and brainless organization that surrounds him.
    Wenger makes all them look better than they deserve. Kroenke is there for the brand to make profit. Gazidis aka Mr. “escalation of financial power” is just another smooth talking American CEO [like I should know] and the board is filled with your typical snotty English gentlemen.

    I understand the ambivalence of the Wenger-in crowd. It’s borne out of fear that the bottom is going to really drop when Wenger leaves because the Arsenal organizations really have NO CLUE. You can see that from when they gave Elneny a blank shirt for his maiden photo-shoot. How do you not have a player’s name printed on his initial [welcome] photo-shoot?

    Truth be told we are a near-amateur organization followed by passive middle income Londoners. If the fan base was working class like Liverpool or West Ham, there would be more action on the stands.
    We are captive to the new economy. I can understand why the money-people took charge during and following the move from Highbury but we ought to have transitioned back to a football mode once the finances got better. I only see decline from here one. We are like a country club of old cigar smoking pot bellied men in a community filled with vibrant health conscious young people. It will be a slow decline and might be missed until it’s too late.

  70. salparadisenyc

    I think it pretty safe to say we are underperforming as a side, in contrast to Fergies last season where he had that title winning side over performing when they needed a massive rebuild. Which fell to Moyes.

    Many out there comparing replacing Wenger to United and the Moyes folly.
    I just can’t agree with that.

    Many choices for Gazidas and Stan if they can be arsed.

    I start the hiring in this order and work my way down:

    Simeone

    Klopp (all time banter hire if pulled)

    Then Tuchel, De Boer, Koeman, Marcelino all have something interesting to offer yet less proven. Which doesn’t negate the by any stretch imo.

  71. Dissenter

    Emirates,
    I understand your contention that the bottom will drop when Wenger leaves and your hesitancy is not cowardly. You’re thinking in chapters when we need some courage to just take the first step of what will be a very difficult journey.

    We can’t just leave our heads in the sand. Wenger built this squad with 192 million when we all know that it’s not worth 50-55% of that sum of money.

  72. ADKB

    @Emiratesstroller:

    How about Regnew Enersra? All your points describe another Wenger.

    I don’t mind having a manager every 3 or 4 years as long as they do a great job. We’ve tried the long-term job for stability but that hasn’t helped in the last 12 years.

    Unless we want to continue with the status quo of not aiming at winning trophies. As long as the club continues to make money, all is well?

  73. NYCgooner

    I’m not sure a formation change would improve us in this situation. We just need more players that don’t run away from the big moment and try to step up and be counted. It’s physically impossible to sustain the intensity we played with in the final ten minutes of the game yesterday but we should be able to play that way for spurts during the course of a game and kill off teams early.

  74. Carts

    Stroller

    i think the most important factor is the rebuilding that will inevitably happen.

    Best case scenario, is that the new manager attains top 4.

    If we finished out of the top 4, say 5th or 6th, then again, I’m willing to put my neck on the line and say that there’d be a substantial improvement the next year. Objective fans must recognise this and be willing to give the whom ever is the new manager time to implement his ideas.

    Moreover, for the absolute minimum that Wenger has achieves season in, and season out, I can’t imagine a competent manager with fresh idea not attaining that.

    Wenger has actually done well with his lack of integral investment to achieve top for for so long. He goes into game with next to no strategic planning. Defensively he hasn’t improved us, leading many to believe that we don’;t actually focus on the defensive aspect of the game.

    And he literally blagged in with Giroud, Theo and Welbeck. Giroud and Welbeck are second choice striker at best. Walcott is just a terrible player.

    I stand by the fact that Wenger should’ve been given his walking papers after losing to Birmingham City. That loss was a total embarrassment and while watching that game you could see that Wenger’s genuine influence had vanished

  75. gambon

    Emiratestroller

    Who was Arsene Wenger in 1995? Who was Pep Guardiola in 2007?

    Its not about getting a big name.

    Its about someone with ideas, with energy and with the ability to motivate and win the trust of the players.

    People act like Wenger is the worlds only manager, likes hes a miracle worker.

    We have a wage bill of £192m and have spent £150m in 2.5 years.

    This isnt a miracle worker, its a guy achieving very little for this outlay.

    Mesut Ozil has won a league and the world cup…..all without Wenger.

    Sanchez has won league titles and the Copa America…..all without Wenger.

    There are 8 managers who play in the quarter finals of the CL every year……Wenger is never one of them.

    Every year the league titles across England, France, Germany, Spain and Italy are won by various managers……Wenger is never one of them.

    West Ham and Southampton are sitting 3 and 8 points behind us.

    Could Wenger ever achieve that with such small budgets? Absolutely no chance.

  76. Red&White4life

    “Mesut Ozil has won a league and the world cup…..all without Wenger.”

    Mostly because there was no wenger lol

  77. Red&White4life

    Final ranking for this season : 1) Leicester, 2) Spuds, 3) West ham, 4)…

    Well, I let you guess lol

  78. WengerEagle

    Slaven Bilic (West Ham)
    Marcelino (Villarreal)
    Dardai (Hertha Berlin)
    Koeman (Southampton)
    Jorge Jesus (Sporting Lisbon)
    Jogi Loew (Germany)
    Ernesto Valverde (Athletic Bilbao)

    A few interesting candidates there besides the usual names of Simeone and Tuchel.

  79. gambon

    Frank DeBoer would be an interesting one.

    His name would carry a lot of weight, he has a track record of winning (might win his 5th league title this year), he is exceptional at playing quality youth players, and it would bring the return of Dennis.

    May be the return of Overmars as well.

    He probably needs a step up as well.

  80. Danny

    Leedsgunner
    March 14, 2016 14:16:38
    Wenger should have quit whilst he was ahead. He should have left in 2006 after the Champion’s League Final loss.
    “Can’t agree woth this at all. He replaced Seaman, Adams, Bould, Winterburn and Dixon with Lehmann, Campbell, Toure, Cole, and Laurent.”
    True… then he replaced those with…
    Lehmann, Campbell, Toure, Cole, and Lauren with W. “Water Bottle” Szecesney, Johann “Arsenal.com Djourou, Sanderos, and Santos…
    Yep. All quality players.
    ————————————
    Yes but by 2007 Chelsea’s russian mob money was in full swing.
    I’m not defending Wenger in anyway, he should’ve left either after the 2006 final or after the 2007-8 season – thats for sure but those first 10 years were days of magic. Sadly these last 10 years have been mostly days of complete shit, like say yesterday or any other day since the end of October 2015.

  81. Dissenter

    gambon,
    I think you’re missing Emirate’s point.
    I think he’s contending that our organization is so passive and satisfied with just making money they wont pick a manager who will walk rather than being curtailed.

    Frankly I too worry that Gazidis and the football-ignorant snotty buffoons on the board will have to go through five managers to get one right. We can’t even make signing average players look easy.
    The difference between Emirates and I is that I’m willing to take that risk regardless.

    Wenger is like expired lipstick, problem is our club organization is like the proverbial pig wearing that lipstick.

  82. TitsMcGee

    I’d take DE Boer.

    I’d take Koemann as well.

    There are tons of managers out there that couldn’t win an EPL title in 12 seasons lol

  83. Dissenter

    The money men at Arsenal will also balk at sacking Wenger because they know a proper manager will come and shake things up. There are many players that need to be relegated to train with the under-16s until they get the message and fuck off somewhere else.

    I don’t think Gazidis wants to be faced with the burden of negotiating pay-offs to half of the team. We need a clearance of at least 12-14 players in the senior team, not counting Arteta, Flamini and Rosicky’s exits.

  84. gambon

    Dissenter

    I think the endless blame put on Gazidis and Kroenke is a bit silly.

    I keep hearing that we are so cheap.

    Yet we spend £192m on wages, we spend a higher % on wages than Man City or Man Utd.

    We have spent £150m in recent years.

    We have hired people like Shad Forsythe and bought an analytics company called StatDNA

    If we were so obsessed with money, why would we sanction such a huge wage bill? We would pay £150m PA, which would allow Kroenke to take £45m PA out of the club rather than the £3m he has taken.

    Dont believe the hype. Its just the Wenger defenders looking to shift blame.

    Wenger is paid £8.5m PA, very clearly we could hire almost any manager in the world.

  85. Leedsgunner

    Arsene Wenger should call Jurgen and approach to do a job swap. I hear they’re looking for a manager to give them Champion’s League football and a new stadium — perfect fit… and they are used to not winning the league for decades.

    When Wenger leaves I want him to leave completely. No going upstairs. No naming a stand… just to leave.

  86. Cesc Appeal

    Yeah, Wenger cannot go upstairs, he might as well just stay as manager if the solution was to move him upstairs.

    The problem already is that he has too much power and no one will challenge him, changing his job title won’t cure that.

  87. Dissenter

    I wonder what Wenger will think of Mertasacker’s public statement about the toothless attack: “It looks like we play, and play and play until the opposing team scores”

    He’s broken away from Wenger refusal to call out his babies.
    Mertesacker needs to have a word with himself too though but had we scored in the first half, Watford wont have won. Oh, no I forgot the Swansea game.

  88. Danny

    Elneny’s first game – the guy was like a breath of fresh air, firing shots from outside the box. What has happened to him?
    ——————————————
    Do us a favour – did you see his 2 shots yesterday? The guy is a standard 5 million pound Wenger panic buy just like Santos.

  89. gambon

    Dissenter,

    See I cant agree with that.

    We dont need to sell 14 players, these guys were top in January.

    The players keep changing but the results are the same. Who is the common denominator?

    Wenger.

    We do need better players across the pitch, but its not revolution that we need, its just a step up in managerial quality, a spine of world class players, and much higher standards for the other players.

    I would sign a top CB, and I would completely gut the CM and CF positions.

    Apart from that its strong training ground management and man-management that is needed.

    Losing to Southampton, losing at home to Chelsea, Drawing with Liverpool, Stoke, Southampton, losing to Swansea isnt a player problem.

    Its a severe managerial, motivational problem.

    We lost yesterday and Wenger came out saying how strong our spirit and attitude was.

    That right there is the problem.

    Hes lost the dressing room.

    We are a 70 point team.

    5 good players and a quality manager and we are an 87 point team that can win the PL

  90. Dissenter

    gambon,
    I hear you.
    Look at it another way though.
    We always assume that Gazidis and the board wont check Wenger because he’s untouchable since he’s been blessed by Kroenke.
    Have you considered the possibility that Gazidis and the board are passengers who wont call Wenger to account because they have no idea how to run a football club themselves. I think they are like little kids hiding behind big mama’s skirt. A broken Wenger still makes them look presentable and that’s good enough for them.

    I posit that it’s ignorance of being found out when Wenger leaves that’s holding them back from making the switch. Their incompetence will be brought to public view. I dont think it was Wenger who bid 4,000,001 pounds for Suarez, it was Gazidis via Dick law.

  91. Carts

    Gambon has raised and stress and important fact, there. This is something that objectivity will show you.

    This is also why Moh (from Arsenal TV) is a Wenger apologist (as is Ty).

    We can bitch and moan at the board all you like, but when you look back when we starting hoarding money and bizarrely rewarding average>blow average player top contract you’ll see that – outside of the financially doping teams – Wenger has made unbelievable decisions not to sign certain players, overpaid player and simply persisted with certain players.

    NONE of that had anything to do with what Chelsea or City have been doing for the last 5 years.

    I say 5 years, cos at that point, is when I was 100% convinced Wenger had lost his aura. February 2011 vs Birmningham City.

    After austerity I sincerely believe Wenger was due to opportunity to give it another go. Oh how he has failed.

  92. MidwestGun

    It’s unbelievable how much Moyes and LVG failing at Man. U has damaged the psychological makeup of some fans…. fear of change isn’t a good reason to do anything let alone stick with something that isn’t working. Reminds me of battered wife syndrome or something, to be honest.

  93. Red&White4life

    Garde taking the desperate job at Villa, and declares that “he didn’t thint that it would be so hard” is a really weird story to me…

    Don’ be surprised if wenger is behind this shit lol

  94. Emiratesstroller

    Gambon

    I couldn’t agree more the club needs to be revitalised by a new manager based on energy and ideas and not on reputation.

    Frankly I think that Arsenal will go down that route when the time comes to
    replace Wenger.

    Ajax has a global reputation but now operates on a limited budget. That is why
    I suggested a management team of Frank de Boer and Bergkamp.

    Arsenal would be a step up for them, because of our resources, but they can
    bring in the culture and ideas from Ajax.

    The manager needs also to adapt to working with English as well as continental players and knowledge of English Language is a must. That is why I suggested De Boer and Bergkamp.

  95. salparadisenyc

    Mid

    It just highlights how good Fergie was… did what was necessary, regardless. The RVP signage to win title pretty good example.

    Flip side is fact Wenger sold him.

  96. WengerEagle

    Amazes me that people don’t want roll the dice.

    Every year we score a 3 or a 4, sure we could roll and get a 1 or a 2 but we could also get a 5 or a 6.

    Isn’t that unpredictability half the fun?

    August is such an exciting month for most football supporters because a season full of possibilities presents itself.

    With us there’s just a numbness, most of us know that every season we finish 3rd/4th, get embarrassed in Europe and if we’re lucky, get a nice Cup run.

  97. Carts

    Dissenter

    You too is right with that post above my last.

    The board are virtually powerless. There is no accountability.

    Kroenke, in that City AM article, explained his position.

    Hell, the mug turned down owning a cricket team…IN INDIA, ffs. It tells you all you need to know about the man. But went and dropped 3/4 of a billion on LAND!

    Gazidis…is he even considered a foot soldier? I mean, look what happen end when he tried to pull rank with the “buy Wayne Rooney players” a couple summers ago, he was shut down by Wenger with the quickness.

  98. gambon

    OK, so here is why the financial argument doesnt make much sense.

    And by financial argument, I mean 2 things

    1- Arsene doesnt spend
    2- The board are tight

    Firstly looking at wage bills. Last season, they were:

    Arsenal £192m
    Man City £193m
    Man Utd £200m
    Chelsea £215m

    Now taking aside league winning bonuses, you are basically looking at 4 teams that are very very close in terms of wage bills.

    We do not pay less than our rivals at all.

    Although I would be keen to ask where the money is going, because Chelsea, City and UTD all have multiple very high paid players.

    We dont, yet still spend as much, so does that mean we still have the socialist wage structure?

    How can Man Utd pay Rooney £300k PW, out of a £200m wage bill, yet we apparently cant compete at that level with our £192m wage bill?

    Makes no sense.

    Secondly, looking at net spend in these 3 seasons:

    Man City £250m
    Man Utd £198m
    Arsenal £111m*
    Chelsea £64m

    Now heres the point.

    If you assume we had the ability to buy a £50m striker this summer, as was widely reported we did…….even Wenger and one of our board members said the money was there,…….then we couldve had an outlay of £161m in the last 3 seasons.

    £161m net spend, AND a wage bill that matches our rivals. This isnt “cheap” – this is a huge amount of money that we are investing.

    The idea that the board are keeping it all under their matress is ridiculous.

    As i say, if you believe that we had the ability to spend £50m this summer on a top player, then Wenger has no leg to stand on.

    The board are making ample funds available, we have the financial ability to compete, but for some reason arent.

  99. Dissenter

    Midwest,
    No problems with that.
    The flip side to that argument is when you have an average football organization like Arsenal, it will take 5 tries to get that manager that will eventually transform the club.
    Just playing the devil’s advocate here but are you going to be patient with that new manager who will have to clean house. Truth be told half out staring eleven aren’t good enough to be starters.

  100. salparadisenyc

    Eagle

    Its incredible, when Wenger and Co sold 4th place as success followed up with on pitch celebrations, selfies and tweets.

    Was apparent the long con was successful.

  101. DUIFG

    WE agree its the groundhog day predictability is what kills you, same flaws, getting exposed the same way at the same time of year time and time again.

  102. Phd007

    EmiratesstrollerMarch 14, 2016 15:11:23

    and knowledge of English Language is a must.
    ————————————————
    Why is knowledge of the English a must?Pocho at Spurs ,when he came to England could barely speak English.Needed an interpreter at press conferences,when he was at Southampton..

    Absolute hogwash Emirates Stroller…

    I refer to my post earlier on,addressed to Wallace..See below
    ———————
    Phd007March 14, 2016 13:54:19

    Now your line of argument,is whether they have a good command of the English language to communicate effectively with the players..

    Smh..
    Now you’re clutching at straws…Wallace just to recap a little..

    Benitez when he first came to England…He couldn’t speak a word of English..

    At the end of the day,he got to two CL finals-Won one,lost the other.Won a FAC..I think he managed to communicate his thoughts very well ..

    Now prior to him,we had good ‘ole Tinkerman…Yes Ranieiri at Chelsea.He couldn’t speak a word of English either ..Granted he didn’t win much.But Chelsea came second under him in the EPL..

    Ancelloti’s English wasn’t so good either.But he took lessons..Look what he won at Chelsea..

  103. MidwestGun

    Sal-
    Ya… I agree. But I guess my point is.. Manc. U will eventually get it right and it wont necessarily be a known name. I don’t think we will necessarily get it right on first try either but I don’t think we need to be scared about it. We have the financial stability and infrastructure and loyal fanbase where with a competent manager its only a matter of a short time we can be competing for more than a Cup title here and there. The who is out there argument doesn’t hold water for me. Its like people are trying to find the next 20 year manager. Hopefully those days are gone.

  104. Dissenter

    When is the last time we won ANY team with a blow-out 5-0 plus score line?
    Our squad lacks balance and some good players have to go. I hate to say this but Ramsey has to go because he’s not good enough to play central midfield in a bid club and there are better natural right midfielder than him around.
    Our Englsh core gives too little for to much wages [that should be spent on real elite players. Theo Walcott,Oxlade, Gibbs and Jenkinson all need to go.

    These are decisions that a new manager has to make. The idea that once we change Wenger, it’s honky dory is wrong. The new manager has to UNDO Wenger to truly succeed. This squad is only good enough for 3rd-4th position of a typical season.

    My contention is let’s not pretend that there aren’t going to be tumultuous times ahead after Wenger.

  105. Cesc Appeal

    John Cross: ‘it is time for change, but Wenger deserves to see out his contract.’

    That doesn’t even make sense!

    Either it is time for change, or Wenger should stay, it can’t be both, completely illogical.

  106. Danny

    salparadisenyc March 14, 2016 15:20:57 Eagle
    Its incredible, when Wenger and Co sold 4th place as success followed up with on pitch celebrations, selfies and tweets.
    Was apparent the long con was successful.
    ————————————-
    Imagine what the bonus is for the players to get 4th place!

  107. WengerEagle

    Sal

    It was with that we became the joke of the BPL.

    Stuff like Scholesy’s comment is now the norm.

    ‘The last thing that I want for Man United is for them to be happy with winning the F.A Cup and coming 4th in the Premier League- that’s what Arsenal do every year. You see them celebrating out on the pitch when they come in 4th, that can’t happen at Man United.’

    Also, scary how familiar this analysis is 2 years later to the month, same teams and all:

  108. Red&White4life

    “1- Arsene doesnt spend
    2- The board are tight”

    You can even inverse both, it works the same!!

  109. Carts

    Gambon

    The wage bill thing is relative to 2014/15, right?

    “Arsenal £192m
    Man City £193m
    Man Utd £200m
    Chelsea £215m”

    Ok – see Chelsea’s is really easy to break down. Just with Eto’o, Torres, who’ve now left, that was £120k and £150k pw in wages = £270k circa x 52 = £14m.

    Then for the most part, they’ve been employing a sell to buy policy.

    Utd’s is simple too…RVP, Rooney and Falcao. We’re talking circea £800k pw x 12 + £41m on 3 players.

    Which then begs the bigger question, who the fuck are we paying? When you take out the obvious big earners you quickly see how overpaid our crop are outside of Sanchez £130k and Ozil £140k. Theo, Ramsey, Wilshere it’s socialist madness

  110. salparadisenyc

    Eagle

    I love was Scholes said, everything our players past and present should saying.
    That is the “spirit” i’m interested in, not some created phrase to roll out in a presser when needed.

    All the cohesion one needs is in that clip.

  111. Danny

    These are decisions that a new manager has to make. The idea that once we change Wenger, it’s honky dory is wrong.
    ————————————————
    A new manager will change the whole way this team plays – same players playing a different way. Substitutions at any time – not 67th minute. Suddenly lazy cunts will be replaced at half time. No more tippi tappy bollocks. Getting the players motivated etc

  112. WengerEagle

    Sal

    Exactly, how sadly ironic is it that they only people who have the guts to publicly tell it how it is in the media are our former hated rivals in Scholes, Neville and Roy Keane.

    They are absolutely spot on and it breaks my heart seeing the likes of Wrighty, Henry and Keown bending over backwards to defend Wenger and this endless cycle of elite purgatory that the club is going through.

  113. Carts

    “A new manager will change the whole way this team plays – same players playing a different way. Substitutions at any time – not 67th minute. Suddenly lazy cunts will be replaced at half time. No more tippi tappy bollocks. Getting the players motivated etc”

    Exactly. I mean, how stuck in your ways do you have to be to continuously do your sub from the 68Th minute. It’s like Wenger doesn’t think certain manager pay attention to this

  114. Emiratesstroller

    Phd007

    Once again you demonstrate what an arrogant idiot you really are.

    Do you suggest seriously we should recruit a manager who does not speak English and will therefore have difficulty in communicating with his players?

    Pochettino may be an excellent manager, but he had serious difficulty with
    communication even though he did have a smattering of English when he arrived. He had to rely on “translators”.

    Do you think that this is the ideal way of running a club? For that matter do you know of any international company who sends to Britain a senior manager who does not speak fluently English?

    Communication is the most important skill to run any business and that includes football. It applies in reverse if an British Manager moves abroad, which is why so few make the grade.

  115. Dissenter

    I hope Barcelona don’t take their foot off the accelerator tomorrow. Messi has to realize that he’s 8 goals behind Ronaldo in the all time CL scoring charts.

    I want a cricket score, anything to shame this voyeur

  116. Giroud's Toblerone Boots

    Bamford – you put ozil on the wing – if wenger did this you’d be calling him clueless, and rightfully so.

    Charlie points out your clear mistake and you start with the insults then finish with “I’m just going to ignore you now”

    hahahahaha you melt

  117. Dissenter

    Emirates,
    Anyone can learn passable English, that’s nothing really.
    By insisting on English speaking as a exclusive criteria you’re limiting the pool of potential managers to a trickle.

  118. gambon

    Carts, it really really doesnt make any sense.

    So we have a wage bill that matches Man City. Yet they have Aguero, Toure, Silva all at a level that we supposedly “cant afford”

  119. WengerEagle

    Stroller

    I can’t imagine that Ancelotti has any German and he’s all set to take over at Bayern in the summer.

    Guardiola didn’t have a word of German when he agreed to take the Bayern job in 2013.

    Mourinho didn’t speak Italian when he became Inter Milan boss.

    PHD to be fair pointed out a fair few examples including Rafa that didn’t speak English before taking over Liverpool.

    It’s not ideal of course but where there’s a will, there’s a way.

    Languages can be learnt, you can’t be as close minded as to only scour for English speaking managers.

  120. Emiratesstroller

    Dissenter

    Guardiola is learning to speak English BEFORE he arrives in Manchester and
    not afterwards.

    Most of the Managers who come today to Britain are able to speak English before they arrive here.

    There is a difference between Managers and Players.

  121. Phd007

    EmiratesstrollerMarch 14, 2016 15:44:06Phd007Once again you demonstrate what an arrogant idiot you really are.Do you suggest seriously we should recruit a manager who does not speak English and will therefore have difficulty in communicating with his players?Pochettino may be an excellent manager, but he had serious difficulty with
    communication even though he did have a smattering of English when he arrived. He had to rely on “translators”.
    ———————————————–
    What you clearly demonstrate is a myopic,insular, one dimensional mindset.
    Incapable of thinking outside the box,like your Master Wenger.Past it,set in your ways.Scared witless of what’s around the corner..

    I gave you notable examples of foreign managers whose English by your standards were non-existent(which you have conveniently ignored),yet they excelled.
    The job description in footballing terms,should not be limited to having an excellent command of the English language,when other qualities should super cede that.

    How do other foreign managers such as Mourinho,Guardiola,Simeone,Ancelloti to name but a few,manage to cross the language barrier in different countries & win trophies in countries,where that particular countries language is not their native language.

    Guardiola-(Spanish Speaking)-Managing a German Team

    Mourinho(Portugese Speaking)-Managed in England,Italy ,Spain

    Ancelloti(Italian Speaking)-Managed in Spain,Italy,FranceBenitez(Spanish Speaking)-Managed in England,Italy..

    Rijkaard(Dutch Speaking)-Managed in Spain,Turkey

    Hiddink(Dutch Speaking)-Managed in Spain,Russia,South Korea.

    I could go on..& the majority managed to win trophies in countries outside of their native countries,without having fluent knowledge of the language.

    At this juncture,I bid you farewell..

    Good luck with your weekly sojourns to the Emirates..Hope it doesn’t end with you having an aneurism one day,when the shock sets in,how much of a naive,bumbling,flip flopping fan you are,that’s been taking for a joy ride and some by Arsene et al..

    Cheers