Where is the fire, Arsene? | NEW KIT EXCITING WOW

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I’ve really come into this blog post a bit flat this morning.

You get into this weird state at this point in the season where you can see what’s unfolding, but because it hasn’t actually unfolded, you kind of bite your lip.

Our title chances are still very much still open. We’re right in the mix. We just don’t look like Champions, where teams like Leicester, you have to say, do.

How weird is it to say that? They have players that are on fire this year. They have fight in their legs. They can smell the finish line and they’re a ragtag bunch of journeymen sprinkled with some magic.

Their players have taken the bull by the horns. It might all go to shit for them, but jeez, you can’t help admire the guts they’re showing.

With Arsenal? Well, it’s the standard finish to a season. If we start well, we finish meekly. If we start poorly, we pull it together. We do the bare minimum of what is expected.

That mentality comes from the manager. He doesn’t seem to strike fear into his players. You can say this is just me bitching, but this was supposed to be our year and we’re flunking out, our players are bottling it and it’ll all be ok because no one tells Arsene it’s not.

Same old, same old.

STABILITY.

We have the most stable team in the league and at the moment, that feels like calling a bit of bread the most stable in the basket… sitting there for 3 solid months, stale as a piece of festering cheese. That’s what 2016 has felt like anyway.

What I want to know is this… what is Wenger going to do about this?

What are they doing in training to address this bullshit that’s going off on the pitch.

Does Wenger say, ‘boys, there’s nowt you can do about keeping like that’, or does he tie Carl Jenks over a barrel and lash him as an example.

‘But why Carl Arsene, he’s not part of this!’

*LASH

‘THIS IS ON YOU THEO’

‘No ARSENE please, stop!’

That might get a reaction. Sorry Carl, but you’re taking one for the team.

DO IT FOR CARL BOYS.

But seriously, what’s the deal? Who is taking control of that dressing room. Who tells Mesut to pull his leadership finger out? Who is roughing up Theo Softcott? Who is telling Aaron Ramsey he’s playing like a joke and he’s totally fucked his chance of playing central… unless he starts taking more responsibility on the pitch?

Where are the leaders? Where is the damn hunger to not let this get away from us?

We play Bournemouth. Benik Afobe is on hattrick watch. But it’s a big game for us. They will be hungry. We haven’t been.

Who turns up?

Big weekend Arsene. 6-0 would set the ball rolling. Does the manager have the minerals to get his players firing past 65%?

This season can’t end in fourth again… it simply can’t.

P.S. Puma creative team on a go slow. I like it, but very close to what we have now. Poor parents.

P.P.S Has anyone had a good experience of renting your flat out with an AirBnB host?

 

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  1. steve

    Lol EmiratesTROLLER spouts some bollocks.

    Gets called out on said bollocks

    Then covers his ears and goes: “lalalalala I can’t hear what you’re saying”.

    Pathetic. Hmm I wonder if EmiratesTROLLER actually is Willow? They have the same tendency to lie a lot.

  2. daz

    “and if you’re found wanting, take the flak and keep it moving.”

    In other words, like many completely ignore the fact you have been proved wrong and change subject 😉

  3. Wallace

    sal

    “When were on the up, it can be felt in the comments, when were making the same habitual mistakes, it can be felt in the comments and whose putting more effort into posting. You’r a very good example of that, flip side to say a poster like gambon.”

    but the blog generally is skewed towards a more critical take on things. so even when things are going well it’s still quite a battleground for anyone who is more prone to focusing on the good things. but i knew this before I started posting so can’t really complain.

  4. Wallace

    ps – and certainly compared to back when Geoff was also posting it’s a lot better. guess many of those who were contributing back then are in jail now…

  5. Phd007

    Absolute LMFAO moments on here today..

    Haven’t laughed so much in a long time..

    I hope that jerk NM doesn’t come on.He’ll literally turn my tears of laughter,into tears of rage..

    Anyway,still having trouble finding a better top class striker than Giroud in 4 years-hey?

    So now,it’s about good value for money??

    Wasn’t Suarez good value for money?

    Wasn’t Higuain good value for money?

    Isn’t Lukaku good value for money?

    Isn’t Lewandoski good value for money?

    In comparison to Giroud??

    I don’t know sometimes..It’s a funny ‘ole game-hey!!

  6. gambon

    “but the blog generally is skewed towards a more critical take on things. so even when things are going well it’s still quite a battleground”

    Well, no.

    You are missing the point here.

    Many fans take a very ‘micro’ view of the season, focusing on small little positives and generally having a reactionary view about events.

    Ie – Arsenal win – “Everything is great”

    Arsenal are top “we’re top, so that justifies everything and proves Wenger is a genius”

    Then when things go more negative they disappear and make excuses.

    More realistic fans understand that we do not have what it takes to win the league. We simply dont. We have a dated manager, players that lack the required quality and various other issues.

    So when we are top on January the first, there are many of us that KNOW….that is KNOW not THINK, we are not going to stay there.

    So why should the more intelligent fans come on here and pretend things are brilliant because we are temporarily top due to poor opposition performance and a kind fixture list in a pressure free environment?

  7. salparadisenyc

    Wallace

    I’d agree, many of us myself included found this space out of utter frustration with Wenger and the club. I started posting sometime in 09, when i’d had enough. Clearly the writing was on the wall Arsene had become his worst enemy.

    Ozil’s window was pivotal as everything we’d blogged about in the previous years seem to come out of that window. Negligence, panic, stupidity and fact we had money to procure class.

    How do you sign Sanogo and Ozil with Flamini coming back after leaving on a bosman.

  8. Sam

    I lost respect for all the cunts flooding to China
    They even gave up playing for their national team for Chinese money
    The likes of Ramires won’t be selected by brazil anymore

  9. Leedsgunner

    Typical, when all else fails demonise people just because they highlight the contradiction in your arguments.

    Just because something doesn’t praise Wenger to the highest heaven and sing hallejujahs every time they are caricatured as “nasty” — they don’t deserved to be dismissed out of hand as negative or moronic…

    Their arguments merit consideration just the so-called “positive” commenters, isn’t this what debate is all about? Isn’t common courtesy to at least give each other a listen?

    I don’t agree with everything gambon by any means and I’ve called gambon out especially when he’s demeaned disabled people but at least he isn’t afraid of debate.

  10. Wallace

    gambon

    “Many fans take a very ‘micro’ view of the season, focusing on small little positives and generally having a reactionary view about events.”

    possibly, but I’d argue the current team/squad with Cech, Koscielny, Monreal, Coquelin, Cazorla, Ozil & Alexis is far better than the team/squad of, say, 2011/12. I agree Wenger can be very frustrating and some of his decisions pretty baffling, but we are definitely in a far better position than we were 5yrs ago.

  11. Leedsgunner

    The reality is despite starting the year on top in a month we’ve slid down to fourth. Why is that? Why isn’t anyone at the club challenging Wenger about it?

    Who is taking care of the club’s legacy and good name? It certainly isn’t the Board, it seems to me.

    To add insult to injury, the club has close £200m in the bank, which it hasn’t spent on the playing staff… (except £17m on Cech and Elneny) why are they passing a surcharge on to the fans for the Barça games.

    A few weeks ago, stories were circulating that the club was contemplating a new contract for Wilshere.

    Here’s an idea, if the club wants to spend that money to more deserving people, why doesn’t the club offer free tickets to families of children recovering from illnesses like cancer etc. for the rest of this next season and next season?

    Sure as hell they are more deserving of a day out at the club’s expense than little spoilt Jack Wilshere. Maybe then next time Jack is feeling sorry for himself he can look into the eyes of these little kids and realise what a privileged life he leads… and actually do some honest work on the field!

  12. gambon

    Wallace

    But thats my point

    I dont see our current squad as good enough, certainly under Wenger.

    So im not going to change my view because we sneak to the top after a kind fixture list and some poor form by rivals.

    If we had gone into the season with Pep as manager, Benzema and Dybale up front, and Schneiderlin fighting with Coquelin for the CM slot, my opinion would have been different.

    And even if we were now 5 points behind, I would still be talking about us winning the PL.

  13. Leedsgunner

    “possibly, but I’d argue the current team/squad with Cech, Koscielny, Monreal, Coquelin, Cazorla, Ozil & Alexis is far better than the team/squad of, say, 2011/12. I agree Wenger can be very frustrating and some of his decisions pretty baffling, but we are definitely in a far better position than we were 5yrs ago.”

    Wallace

    Would you still think this IF we get knocked out of the FA Cup and the UCL and struggle into 4th? When is enough, enough for you?

    Genuine Q btw, not designed to get a rise.

  14. Wallace

    Leeds

    to be fair to Jack he is supposed to be a bit of a star with his charity work. although that might be to do with all the spare time he’s had on his hands this last few years.

  15. salparadisenyc

    Time to hang it up for the day when you start putting this shit up.

    “One thing I know is that I am a lot cleverer than you and was probably more successful in my professional and business life.”

  16. gambon

    The idea of us giving jack an IMPROVED contract is pretty ridiculous.

    I have no problem with us persisting with him, because there is some real talent there to try and harness, but you just cant offer improved terms to someone that hasnt improved or helped the club.

    If Wilshere says “well I can get more money elsewhere” – firstly I would seriously doubt that, and secondly I would say “go for it”.

    I think our wage bill is quite badly run. We seem to avoid paying the very top wages, but simultaneously overpay average players.

  17. Bob

    Parts of the team/staff have improved, or we’ve recruited better options (upgrades) & snippets of real qaulity have shown occasionally the team as a whole have had good moments, but collectively as a unit & on this seasons showings, were only marginally better which Shows in the fa cups we’ve won back to back, but there is still a lot of work to be done & changes to be made,

  18. gambon

    I think a big problem, and ive said this A LOT of times, is that there is no innovation at Arsenal.

    We never lead, we follow meekly a few years behind our rivals.

    This is in all areas of the club.

    Our rivals started spending big money and pushed the envelope in terms of wages……we started to do the same a few years later, but at a slightly lower level (Ozil, Alexis)

    Our rivals started aggressively chasing commercial money to monetise their brand…..we sat back, watched, then started doing the same a few years later.

    Our rivals started investing heavily at youth level, developing top academies. We are just starting to do the same.

    If we are always behind our rivals by a few years, we will never catch them up.

    As an example, look at our commercial deals. We tied ourselves into terrible deals, then Gazidis was quick to tell the world how great he was after we negotiated the deals with Emirates and Puma.

    Now they dont look so good. Man Utd has absolutely destroyed these deals, and City and Chelsea have also got one over on us.

    Man Utd, Chelsea, and Liverpool now all have Traning Kit sponsors that bring in £10m-£25m per year.

    Yet we for some reason, for £30m pa, gave Emirates the rights to the shirt, the training kit and the stadium.

    Its such an unambitious, non-innovation based culture at Arsenal.

    If a new supplement came out tomorrow that was proven to reduce injuries, Man Utd, City and Chelsea would start using it tomorrow, and Arsenal would jump on the bandwagon in 3 years time when there are actually newer,better options.

    We need to start innovating, finding new revenue streams that our rivals havent, find new scouting and training methods, new injury prevention measures and new tactical set ups that will give us a (temporary) advantage.

  19. Wallace

    gambon

    okay, fair enough. I’d argue we’re definitely in a lot stronger position as a club these days, but no doubt we could have afforded to add two players of serious quality in the summer.

    i’m not a huge fan of just filling the side with imported stars, but this season if we do fail questions will rightly be asked about the unspent money.

  20. Wallace

    Leeds

    “Would you still think this IF we get knocked out of the FA Cup and the UCL and struggle into 4th? When is enough, enough for you?”

    any worse than 2nd and only a couple of points of top will be a disappointing season for me. and questions will rightly be asked. would be great to win the FA Cup again, but the PL is the big thing this year. don’t expect us to get past Barca.

  21. salparadisenyc

    gambon

    All facts there, so true.

    It all points to Wenger, said it last night he’s operating from a blueprint thats 15 years old (something we’ve all said including Pedro). Some think it will change but its quite clear it won’t.

    Everything in the club mirrors that, on and off field performance. Wenger has created a reactive world, where as Pep and others are proactive.

    It changes when Wenger walks, has to be in his mind.

  22. gambon

    sal

    I think the question is:

    Do Arsenal do everything possible to be the best club in the PL?

    I dont think anyone could honestly say that we do.

    I would say we do absolutely everything to ensure a top 4 finish (our wage bill is £100m more than Spurs and £50m more than Liverpool).

    But absolutley nothing to try and be the best.

  23. Bob

    Any change in personnel/decisions at the club at the moment feel slow & somewhat forced, as though they have to do it, instead of actually wanting to do it

  24. salparadisenyc

    And we’ve lucked into 4th on a couple occasions.

    Where it becomes fatal is nobody at the club has any apparent rule over Wenger to do otherwise.

    Insulting spending ‎£17m in the past two windows with whom we fielded this past weekend. Anybody who wants to argue the club does everything in its power to be the best hasn’t a leg to stand on with that.

    Only Wenger could sign Elneny, have Coq back to fitness and start Flamini.

  25. Joe

    Sal

    The question should be why was Sanago bought and flam brought back the same year we bought Ozil.

    1 step forward. 8 steps back.

    You buy the best #10 in the world and then bring in Sanago and keep Giroud as #1

    Only one person would think that is the way forward and the right move

  26. salparadisenyc

    Where as he could of just signed Schneiderlin or others this summer and we’d of been positioned the moment Coq went down or better he’d of been marginalized by a better player.

    As for CF, i’m convinced Wenger doesn’t rate the position.

  27. vicky

    “As for CF, i’m convinced Wenger doesn’t rate the position”

    I disagree with you Sal on this, generally I tend to agree with almost everything you say. Wenger realizes the importance of a quality striker.Wenger does not rate Giroud highly in my opinion. Whenever he is asked about Giroud and striker position in general, I get a sense he understands Arsenal needs better. My hunch is Suarez was the only one who he thought was an Arsenal kind of striker who could not only score but also create for others. Besides, Suarez wasn’t a risk even at £40M as he is a freak of a talent. It’s a shame he botched up that deal.

    I don’t think he rates the likes of Higuain,Dybala,Icardi high enough to shell out huge fortune for them. He in my view rated Falcao and Cavani if his statements on those two players are any indication but again their wages and transfer fees probably put him off. The problem with Wenger is he wants quality players at reasonable/cheap prices. That doesn’t happen these days.

    Lewa and Benz were always unrealistic targets, they already play for bigger clubs than Arsenal.

  28. Leedsgunner

    Time to hang it up for the day when you start putting this shit up.

    “One thing I know is that I am a lot cleverer than you and was probably more successful in my professional and business life.”

    Well said sal..

    As if anyone here gives a flying toss… A sign of a lost argument, methinks.

  29. salparadisenyc

    Gotta love Simeone.

    Opens his presser up today with this: “Jackson leaving was my failure, I couldnt get him to respond to our way and i’m not about to change my style.”

    Sign that man up.

  30. Joe

    Wallace

    With no money spent this summer on an outfield player and 5 spent on exceptional elneny who couldn’t force flam out of the squad

    If we don’t win the league, more than just questions will need to be asked. Wenger should be sacked on the spot

  31. Carts

    In a age full of mercenaries, I’d guess it’s quite difficult to gauge player ambition..see: China

    But let’s take Sanchez for a moment. it was well publicised that he had two concrete offers to chose from and he opted for Arsenal over Liverpool. Fair straight forward. I mean, Liverpool apparently offered more for him (and probably similar wage to Sturridge who was on around £130k-£150kpw even till this day)

    Would Sanchez and/or his people have ask Wenger about his vision going forward? essentially what kind of players will he be looking to add to this squad.?

    Cos as Joe said, if I were Ozil I’d be scratching my bean if I saw Sanogo and Flamini follow me through the entrance. As I’ve said time and time again, the quality disparity is what costing us.

    Leicester probably have 2 player tops that would start in our team: Kante and Mahrez; but the rest are Championship at best. Difference is the disparity is minimal and everyone is grafting

    Same goes for Sanchez – what kind of question regarding development did they pose to Wenger before they signed, or is this now totally redundant?

  32. Alex Cutter

    “was probably more successful in my professional and business life.””

    I’m still trying to figure out the difference between “professional and business life”.

    Aren’t the two synonymous?

  33. salparadisenyc

    Vicky

    There was a bit of sarcasm in there, after all he did sign Titi 14.

    Based on his not rating Giroud enough as you said and i’d agree with to an extent, really sheds light on situation. Wenger doesn’t have the confidence in Theo to start in a game that really didn’t require Giroud’s hold up skills at home. Yet signs him to a new deal on big money.

    Its absurd.

    Wenger always gambles, never covers his bases. He’s literally done it every season in the past decade. In the end we always suffer and flame out.

  34. Phd007

    Alex CutterFebruary 5, 2016 16:59:40
    “was probably more successful in my professional and business life.””I’m still trying to figure out the difference between “professional and business life”.Aren’t the two synonymous?
    ———————————————-
    I think at that point,he started frothing at the mouth..

    Rocking from side to side& then back & forth in his armchair.
    Subsequently jumped up & drop kicked his Arsene Wenger plastic bottle..

    PS
    Then turned around and motioned..”Why you look at me??!!”

  35. jwl

    I think Wenger’s age is his biggest problem, our brain’s abilities deteriorate over time, and he refuses to delegate any authority or repsonsibilities.

    Wenger is semi-retired and enjoying his time at tranquil colney, doing what he loves most, and he makes certain that things stay mostly the same from year to year to year. I am certain Wenger would be happy to choose 16 players for five year project and not buy another player.

    I also think many actual world class players do not want to come to Arsenal because they know our manager does not have energy or ideas to win league. Arsenal spend enormous amounts of money to barely make fourth every year.

    Too much infighting at le grove – everyone here is here because of discontent with Arsenal. Most of us agree that there are major problems at Arsenal but we all have our different ways of supporting team.

  36. Joe

    Wenger now saying he had to let Afobe go because of RVP

    Even though he sold him in 2015. Two years after RVP left

    Hahahah

    Lying cunt can’t even get his stories straight

  37. vicky

    Wenger would have done well as a national team manager. No pressure of buying and selling players. He still would have played his own favorites at any cost though.

  38. jwl

    Joe

    I was just thinking about how many bad decisions Wenger has made in past few years and allowing Afobe to leave looks to be another poor choice. Keeping Sanogo instead of Afobe was ridiculous.

  39. jwl

    vicky – I have been saying for at least five years that Wenger should manage French or English U21s, he clearly likes to develop players from young age.

  40. Joe

    Jwl

    Not even close to saying that Afobe is the answer to anything but why sell him and bring in useless Sanago??

    Makes no sense.

    Both young and projects. Except one is already there. A Gooner.
    and the other is a postman

  41. gambon

    I personally dont think Afobe will ever be good enough for a top club..

    However to parachute Sanogo in above him was disgusting.

    Sanogo is by far the worst PL player I have ever seen.

    Hes not even good enough to start in the championship.

  42. Phd007

    Gambon
    We never lead, we follow meekly a few years behind our rivals.
    This is in all areas of the club.

    Our rivals started spending big money and pushed the envelope in terms of wages……we started to do the same a few years later, but at a slightly lower level (Ozil, Alexis)

    Our rivals started aggressively chasing commercial money to monetise their brand…..we sat back, watched, then started doing the same a few years later.

    Our rivals started investing heavily at youth level, developing top academies.

    We are just starting to do the same.If we are always behind our rivals by a few years, we will never catch them up.As an example, look at our commercial deals. We tied ourselves into terrible deals, then Gazidis was quick to tell the world how great he was after we negotiated the deals with Emirates and Puma.

    Now they dont look so good. Man Utd has absolutely destroyed these deals, and City and Chelsea have also got one over on us.Man Utd, Chelsea, and Liverpool now all have Traning Kit sponsors that bring in £10m-£25m per year.Yet we for some reason, for £30m pa, gave Emirates the rights to the shirt, the training kit and the stadium.

    Its such an unambitious, non-innovation based culture at Arsenal.
    ——————————————————

    *This x100

    I couldn’t have put it more succinctly and coherently…

    Wenger in the latter half of his reign,has been reactionary..

  43. Wallace

    Afobe’s only developed because he’s spent the last two seasons playing regularly. wasn’t going to get that amount of game time at Arsenal. I’m pleased forhim, but don’t think it was a mistake to let him leave.

  44. Carts

    Wallace, so you at least agree that Wenger rating Sanogo higher than Afobe was total nonsense, then?

    After all, he effectively believed in Sanogo over Afobe, no?

  45. Spanishdave

    We are a top club but we have 2division mentality, once you call Chelsea a top club then it puts us down.
    With Wenger we will never act big he has a Lidl mind

  46. Joe

    And the buklshit about RVP when he left 2 years before

    The xunt won’t even admit he made a mistake buying Sanago and letting Afobe go

  47. jwl

    salparadisenyc

    We first were going to buy Higuain and then shifted our focus to Suarez and bought neither and Wenger gets paid millions for that kind of nonsense. Since Fergie retired from manure, the league has been up for grabs, missing out on Suarez especially was clusterfcuk.

  48. Phd007

    jwlFebruary 5, 2016 17:18:17
    vicky – I have been saying for at least five years that Wenger should manage French or English U21s, he clearly likes to develop players from young age.
    ——————————

    What players,has he developed?

  49. Jeff

    Wenger: “Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger believes extra television revenue for Premier League clubs will be used to buy players rather than cut ticket prices.”

    Is he taking the piss again?

  50. salparadisenyc

    JWL

    Ya I didn’t even tap into the Higuain stuff as I thought Wenger made the right move shifting attention to Suarez once the”goal posts moved” on Higuain.

    Such a ridiculous player.

    Fact we couldn’t seal that is quite sad.
    ‎£45m would of done it, instead of insulting with that ‎£1 pound shit.

  51. jwl

    Joe/Phd007

    Not claiming that Wenger would be very good at managing U21s, I am just saying managing young players is what he likes to do.

  52. Wallace

    Carts

    “Wallace, so you at least agree that Wenger rating Sanogo higher than Afobe was total nonsense, then?”

    at the time they were both very raw. I think Wenger maybe thought Sanogo had more he could work with. looks like he was wrong, but I don’t think it was a huge mistake. unlikely that Afobe’s going to develop into an elite level striker.

  53. reality check

    Semi retirement is a good way to put it.

    Its early days but based on a lot of wenger signings, it could be that El Nene? El Neny?
    Is manageable.

    For example. If he plays 5 games at a good level. Establishing himself. Then Wilshere regains fitness. If wenger put jack in straight away for the Next 5 games dropping El Nene to the bench… i think El Nene would just accept it. Won’t kick up a fuss. Won’t knock on wengers door wanting an explanation. No drama, no fuss. Just sit on the bench till wenger says otherwise.

    As i say, early days yet.

    Wenger likes discipline. I think its more important to him than out and out ability.

    Mabey Sanogo was more ‘disciplined’ than Afobe?

  54. Phd007

    JeffFebruary 5, 2016 17:54:34
    Wenger: “Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger believes extra television revenue for Premier League clubs will be used to buy players rather than cut ticket prices.”Is he taking the piss again?
    ————————————–

    Arsene is on fire…..

    Yep,he’s thumbing his nose at the fans…He’s been literally playing a game of hide & seek with the fans for years now.And since,he’s slowly being found it..

    He’s simply turning around and saying WTF,are you going to do about it?

    Now the players,he’s talking about,is definitely not the world class players we have in mind..

    You know average players at budget transfer prices and inflated wages.Disproportionate to quality and talent.

    Not paying market prices for world class players..

  55. Tipster

    Hope Wenger fu@ks off to China. Heard his comments about the extra TV money, I’m I the only one who thinks its disgraceful, needed to buy players and not reduce ticket prices, buy players, lol, pay rise for Theo and his other pets he means.
    Supporters getting ripped off as usual, thought he was a socialist, silly old cu@t.

  56. Jeff

    The main difference between Afobe and Sanogo was that actually if push came to shove, Afobe could do a better job of chasing a coconut down the stairs.

  57. petrovic

    I can’t believe wenger never gets pulled up by journalists for his blatant lies ! I would love someone to say ” err that’s not true, rvp was not at the club when you let afobe go” , I suppose his blatant lies over the years don’t worry some people but for me it’s the main reason I’ve wanted him gone, disgrace.

  58. Jeff

    I kid you not.

    Sanogo:
    “The 30 touches came from the 23-year-old’s 47 minutes of football across six months for Ajax – Arsene Wenger was surely hoping for more from the striker.”

  59. Cesc Appeal

    Massive cock up by the club with the ticket pricing.

    Arsenal fans are organising a protest for the Leicester game I think, the Leicester fans are already protesting the scheduling, so there should be next to no fans in there for 5 minutes after kick off.

    Yet more evidence though that this club doesn’t give a shit about its fans, and is totally out of touch with reality…Arsenal fans are wallets on legs.

    And also, is Wenger taking the piss with his ‘higher prices for higher transfer budgets’ shit?

  60. Jeff

    To think that Sanogo went from spearheading our strike force against Bayern in the Champions League (courtesy of his step dad Arsene) to now hoping to get a game at Charlton. You can’t escape your past Arsene but you are a master of lying about the future.

  61. ADKB

    The longer our manager stays , the more embarrassing statements he’s going to make – like the one about ticket prices and buying players.

  62. Jeff

    If Arsene won’t go to La Liga then La Liga will come to him. Pep and Mourinho in the PL managing our immediate rivals will come as a shock to Wenger’s system – he won’t know what hit him come next season. I’d leave in the summer if I were him.

  63. Wallace

    Liverpool have just announced a massive hike in their ticket prices. the fans are furious and are staging a walkout at their game tomorrow. it was probably that that led to the journalist asking Wenger the question. so not specific to Arsenal, more a general question about what he thinks will happen with the extra tv money.

  64. Cesc Appeal

    Wallace

    No, was a specific question, then the press officer said he couldn’t answer that, then turned into a more general question.

  65. Cesc Appeal

    Where was PR department on this one? Talk about own goals.

    Little while back saying price freezes.

    Then you slip a price increase in, at a time where it was announced Arsenal make more per home game than any club in Europe, increases in TV and UCL money, having spent hardly anything on the squad, with a title challenge slipping away…incompetence of the highest order.

    Need to retract it, and offer a grovelling apology.

  66. Phd007

    Arsene is comical..I give him that..!!

    I’ve been saying for years now..When he goes..I’ll miss him..
    Not for the right reasons..But for the scratch your head moments..!!

    I can’t recall a top class manager,engineering such a catalogue of unmitigated disasters,year on year.

    With the disasters,becoming more bizarre,more pronounced and more jaw dropping,in a scratch your head moment..!!

    What does one call it..Suspension of disbelief!!

    Out of all the managers we have had over the years,Arsene by far,is the most interesting of characters.I for one will miss him..

    His press conferences..
    His purchases
    His socialist wages policy baloney
    His predictable substitutions
    His butchering of the transfer windows
    His penny pinching
    His wastefulness on wages
    His lack of fight
    Him playing square pegs in round holes
    Him running players into the ground
    Him selling our top players to rival clubs
    Him …….
    Him……

    Pure Comedy gold…!!

  67. Jeff

    He shouldn’t have said anything about ticket prices given that they sent an email to all season ticket holders announcing they would be charging extra for the privilege of watching a pasting by Barcelona.

  68. Jeff

    More comedy gold:

    Wenger:
    “We are a company who, on one side [the fans], want you to buy more players. What will happen is the prices of the players will go up and you will need this supplement of money coming in to buy new players. I believe that the pressure on spending the money will become bigger and you cannot necessarily distribute the money to other people.”

    “What we do, we stabilise our prices to give access to other players and we have
    stabilised now for many years.”

    😆

    Source: http://tinyurl.com/zw5vqpc

  69. Cesc Appeal

    Jeff

    Someone should have asked him then, seeing as you bought no one, can you then ‘stabilise’ ticket prices.

  70. Jeff

    Cesc,

    I am lost for words. He’s actually providing stonewall evidence that nobody at the club reviews anything he says or does. Absolutely amazing.

  71. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    Yeah, will be added onto season tickets at renewal time, about an extra £20.

    Whilst £20 isn’t that much, the act itself is disgusting and just shows what utter contempt Arsenal have for their fans, more worrying, that they don’t actually care about fan reaction.

  72. WengerEagle

    Wow, that is shocking.

    It’s not even purely about the money as you say Cesc, it’s the fact that they clearly hold the fanbase in pitiful low esteem, I’ve never even heard of that happening at any other club.

    If (IMO when) we are massacred by Barcelona at the Emirates they fully deserve a severe fan backlash.

  73. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    Well there is a protest in place for the Leicester game, Arsenal fans are being asked to stay out of the stands for the first five minutes of the game, Leicester are already protesting the scheduling, so will look quite embarrassing for the club.

    It will never happen of course, but it would be spectacular if the fans stayed away from the Barcelona game, have Red Action attach some mock money to each seat or something and just leave, like, this is what you want, not us, you couldn’t give a f**k about us.

  74. WengerEagle

    Cesc

    Yeah sadly these planned fan demonstrations never seem to come to fruition, unfortunately there are just too many Arsenal supporters around so you’re utterly dispensable if you choose to boycott the matches.

    I’m very interested to see how many Liverpool supporters walk out of Anfield in the 77th minute tomorrow, my guess is that it won’t be enough to cause the necessary stir.

    It’s why people refuse to give up their season tickets even with the way the club is being mismanaged and poorly-run, even if they give up their tickets, there are literally thousands of fans waiting to snap up their place so it means absolutely nothing to the club if you call it a day.

    Haha I’d quite like to see that too, Monopoly money sellotaped to all the empty seats would make for a great statement.

  75. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    Yeah the problem is as you say, there will be eight fans who’d jump to replace you, and second, the club have seen it all before.

    They’ve seen the anger over the annual slumps and average results, they’ve seen the anger of pricing…they know nothing ever comes of it.

  76. WengerEagle

    ‘They’ve seen the anger over the annual slumps and average results, they’ve seen the anger of pricing…they know nothing ever comes of it.’

    So true which is why we’ll rumble on in this perpetual state of seemingly never ending elite mediocrity for years more to come.

    A lot of the blame lies at Wenger’s door but people are pissing in the wind if they think that the buck stops with Wenger alone.

    Kroenke is a cancer to this club.

  77. WengersSweeties

    Who’s going to Araenal V FC Barcelona?

    Because I ain’t.

    Who’s paying to watch the club f**k the fans over?

    Empty the stadium. Watch it from the comfort or your own home and let them see your empty seat.