Are Arsenal too strong for Spanish vultures?

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I’ve got to that point in life where a weekend smashing beer and whisky actually impacts how you look on a Monday. I’m there, a constant battle to not be a Wayne Rooney.

I see how it happens though, you know, getting fat. No interest in chocolate or bad food for my whole life (unless I’m drunk), now everything looks incredible. I’m looking those wilted pastries in coffee shops, I’m magnetically drawn to cake they wheel out of client meetings… I bought a bag of pork scratchings for no reason the other day for no reason other than knowing I shouldn’t.

ALL THE TEMPTATION.

Anyway, it’s under control.

Onto the news.

We’ve gone a few years not having to worry about the beasts of Europe pinching out best players. Some would say that’s because we’ve had a very weak batch of players, others would say that financial might blended with Arsene Wenger enforced Stockholm Syndrome has stemmed the leak.

I’d say it’s probably that a blend of having good money, a competitive team that is starting to win things and a group of players that aren’t really blowing it out the park.

However, we’re now at that point in our 10 year rebuild where our players are looking pretty attractive. Like a delicious cinnamon bun sitting on a small plate, fresh and soft, ready to be eaten. We actually have star players. Ozil is smack bang in his prime at 27 years old, he’d walk into any side in the world now, he’s actually the best there is as a number 10, like a slab of prime cut sirloin. Alexis Sanchez is also in his pomp at 27 years old. So he’d possibly be on a lot of clubs wishlists this coming summer. Then there’s Aaron Ramsey. I really like him, but I can’t help but think he has one ribeye on joining his mate Gareth Bale out in Spain.

There are rumours that this is a possibility. Young, sexy, can play fast paced football, can be spectacular. Hopefully I’m just reading into this, but I think he’d be the most likely to fly the nest. Hopefully not, but he’s been with us a long time and if you’re ambitious, you want to go and live somewhere else for a bit… a touch of Spain would be appealing to anyone.

I’d be really sad to see that happen. I’m hoping he can take on the role Santi is probably going to vacate this summer. I’d say that if you can’t displace Santi in the middle of an Arsenal midfield, you’re probably not ready for a move to Barcelona. I think you probably need to win some things with Arsenal (major things) before you can start presenting yourself to a club like them…

Transfer rumours are pretty boring. You know there aren’t many bubbling when the most exciting noises are that we’re picking up some Nigerian children for the under 17s.

We have a massive game against Liverpool on Wednesday night. I think this really could kick us onto the next level if we win there. The Liverpool players have been disappointing under Klopp so far, but you know they’ll raise their game for us.

‘Arsenal and Arsene have their own style, it’s possession football, so it’s clear that if we want to play the same way we will be without a chance because they’ve been doing it for longer,’ Klopp said.

‘Arsenal are not only a good possession team, that’s the problem, they have good counter-attacks too and that’s what you have to be aware of.

‘It’s a job but it’s a really nice job to think about solutions and how to stop them coming through with their plan. I like things like this.’

 

Klopp will also be fired up… he needs some positive PR. The place will be fired up. Liverpool fans are expectant. I’m quite looking forward to seeing what the German offers up. How do you defend against a team that boasts blistering pace, form and great possession football? We’ll find out… he’ll probably play the high press. It’s what he knows.

Anyway, more on that tomorrow.

P.S. Thanks for the mostly positive words about the violence against women piece. I know it’s not cool to bring stuff like that to a football blog, but I guess that’s the point, it’s not cool to bring it up anywhere. Football is supposed to be a force for good and I know that people on here are intelligent enough to be able to digest more than one topic in a 4 minute read.

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  1. Louis Almeida

    The Ramsey-Flamini pivot scares me. Surprisingly I’ve been impressed with Chambers in midfield (Bournemouth & Sunderland) when I didn’t think I would be. He has very good technical skills although his mobility on the turn is still questionable. With El Nenny arriving though it’s not an experiment that will last long. Didn’t realise how young El Nenny actually was. 23 is a good age though. Let’s see how he gets on.

  2. Wallace

    Cech
    Bellerin – Mertesacker – Koscielny – Monreal
    Chambers – Ramsey
    Campbell – Ozil – Walcott
    Giroud

    Giroud on the bench if Alexis had been fit. expect our CM to come under a lot of pressure, at least in the first 45mins, and think Chambers is more comfortable on the ball than Flamini.

  3. Dissenter

    Tunny,
    I think you’ve answered the question yourself about Welbeck’s England ‘s England performances.

    His goals have come in shifty qualifiers against mediocre teams.
    They tend to be made-for-YouTube highlights goals that make him look better.

    There’s a reason why Wenger wanted him on loan first:-)

  4. Louis Almeida

    Wallace, I’d be more comfortable if it was Gabriel behind Chambers. Knowing Ramsey’s propensity to bomb forward if Chambers is overrun at least you have Kos and Gabriel. Not confident with Chambers in front of Mertesacker.

  5. Wallace

    Louis

    “Didn’t realise how young El Nenny actually was. 23 is a good age though. Let’s see how he gets on.”

    yeah, our squad’s at a very good age. all the important players in or approaching their prime.

  6. Dissenter

    Liverpool are really bare bones at the moment.
    They play differently without Coutinho and the defensive crises means we have a unique opportunity to get three points.
    City play Everton at home; they’ll probably drop points.
    If we win the next two games, we could easily be eight points ahead of city because they play another tough game against Palace on Saturday.

  7. gambon

    Absolutely no way you drop Mertesacker for a big game like this.

    He is unbelievably slow but we are a better team with him in.

    We are going to play cautious tonight, so it isnt the problem it would have been 2-3 seasons ago.

  8. Dissenter

    Wallace,
    You’re joking right?
    You want Chambers to start at Anfield so that he can continue his education.
    This is not the A-levels mate.

  9. Wallace

    Louis

    Gabriel’s tempting, I just think Mert/Kos is the better partnership at the moment. and would feel more secure with Mertesacker’s height at the back.

  10. Dissenter

    Arsenal “determined to make Ospina stay despite his frustrations at being number two” – news sources.

    Its amazing him selfish these players can be. He wants to walk away midseason from a club that’s challenging for their first title in twelve years to soothe his ego.
    Wenger should have done the same to Dubuchy.
    Team first.

    There’s no national team manager that will punish a goal keeper for being second to Petr Cech.

  11. Wallace

    Dissenter

    you said the same thing before the Southampton game. I just think Chambers has more to offer the side than Flamini. maybe if Coutinho had been fit Flamini’s experience would have been useful, but I think it’s going to be a Liverpool high on energy, short on subtlety. I’d go with Chambers.

  12. Leedsgunner

    http://www.asroma.com/en

    Roma confirms Garcia sacking…

    I suppose this will mean that Szecesney will come back to Arsenal during his loan and that he won’t be bought by them. Shame. I wonder if it will mean though that Sczcesney comes back to us more hungry… would he be happy playing back up? I doubt it. In a way Wenger did him a disservice promoting so early. He more than anyone should start putting the hard work in and stop believing in his own hype.

    Worth an opportunistic bid for Pjanic? By far their best player… and he would well within our system I reckon!

  13. Louis Almeida

    Wallace, yes I agree that Kos-Mert is a good partnership on the whole but if we’re choosing Chambers (which we won’t) then it’s not a good idea to have both him and Mertesacker in my opinion. Too slow and too reactive. I think you also need to trust Gabriel at some point. He’s been more than solid every time he has played. Could do with improving his distribution but that will only come with more games.

  14. Wallace

    Dissenter

    I think we’ve been riding our luck recently with Flamini alongside Ramsey. I just think Chambers might offer the team more.

  15. gambon

    II dont see us signing Pjanic.

    Hes similar to Cazorla, and I dont think the long term plan is to have such an attacking player in the middle.

    We are playing Cazorla there to cover Coquelins deficiencies, and then we have to play Ramsey wide right to cover Cazorlas deficiencies.

    I think longer term we need a more solid central partnership, and a better attacking player out wide.

  16. Dissenter

    Wallace,
    There’s a difference between playing Bournemouth at home and playing at Anfield.

    Chambers will be targeted and found out, over and over again at Anfield.

    Flaming has his flaws but you can’t doubt his experience.

  17. Dissenter

    Leeds,
    Sczezny wasn’t going to have his loan made permanent regardless.
    He’s been calamitous with several errors like he used to do at Arsenal.
    I think Ospina leaves in the summer and Sczezny comes back to gape at Cech’s mastery.

  18. tunnygriffboy

    Dissenter

    Re Welbeck. Yes the teams England play against aren’t always great. Even so when you are presented with the chances you still have to put them past the keeper. He is capable of that. Consistency is his issue, he’s also been used a lot out wide which lessens his opportunities. I think he has time on his side to improve. As I say, a good man to have in our squad.

  19. gambon

    I would sell both Szczesny and Ospina in the summer.

    Then let Martinez show what he can do in pre-season, and if he’s not good enough sign someone as 2nd choice.

    Also sell Debuchy, Jenkinson, Hayden, Welbeck, Sanogo, Campbell, Gnabry and let Flamini, Rosicky and Arteta leave at the end of their contracts.

  20. Louis Almeida

    Ok I’m not but my last comment was. Wallace, I just said that I don’t think it’s beneficial to have Chambers and Mertesacker in the same team, especially with one expected to cover the other.

  21. tunnygriffboy

    Cesc

    Yes. But he won’t. They’ll have loads of energy in there and Ramsey and Flamini leave too many gaps

    Dissenter

    It appeared that they would be down to their bare bones but they only missing one of theirback four and Henderson is back. They missing Skertl and Lovern plus Countinho and they short of options to replace Benteke. As a first team they are probably in a better position than us.

  22. Sam

    “Chambers will be targeted and found out, over and over again at Anfield.”

    No doubt Flamini should start ahead of Chambers, I believe if we release Arteta n Rosicky, Flamini should stay in the squad regardless coz we still need an experienced dude in the squad.
    If Chambers plays with special instructions n discipline we will be fine.
    He’s CB as long as he doesn’t complicate things he’ll be fine. he positions himself well, break play n give the ball to the playmaker

  23. Leedsgunner

    “He’s been calamitous with several errors like he used to do at Arsenal.”

    The big Q for the club should be why should we persist with such a error prone goal keeper? Surely we should just cut our losses and let him go.

    If we are going to keep him we have to seriously bring Cech’s former coach on board.

    The reason Sczcesney went out on loan was because he had reached a ceiling with us and he wasn’t progressing. I would seriously expect and hope that Lollichon would improve him too.

    Peyton is done… he should be retired with the club’s thanks. If Peyton is going to be kept on we would do better selling Sczcesney because he isn’t going to get any better under existing goal keeping staff.

    Shame we missed out on Butland when he was at Birmingham, a solid young English keeper with a solid head on his shoulders… bought by Stoke for £4m I believe.

  24. Cesc Appeal

    Tunny

    Liverpool don’t have the personnel tonight, so they will try to compensate with energy and willing, can often trump Arsenal when we’re a bit ‘meh’ about a game.

    Chambers really isn’t great, but I’d maybe think about Ramsey, Chambers and Flamini in the middle tonight, look to just have a bit more control of the game and not leave ourselves completely open for the counter attack.

    Sit Ozil in the hole behind two forwards, really you’d want Sanchez, but maybe Walcott and Campbell…really not ideal though.

  25. Dissenter

    gambon
    “I would sell both Szczesny and Ospina in the summer.

    Then let Martinez show what he can do in pre-season, and if he’s not good enough sign someone as 2nd choice.

    Also sell Debuchy, Jenkinson, Hayden, Welbeck, Sanogo, Campbell, Gnabry and let Flamini, Rosicky and Arteta leave at the end of their contracts”

    I agree with the goal keepers. Sczezny has had enough opportunities, unfortunately he had his contract renewed and is one of the best paid goalkeepers on the planet. He’s hard to sell now. Ospina is probably going to leave anyways.

    You realize that we need good squad players, right.
    Which players are you going to sign whom are happy to be squad players but able to come in and make a difference?
    Will they be better than Campbell or Jenkintown?
    Welbeck, is one I have no time for, horrible signing that United dumped on us.

  26. Redtruth

    It’s what Liverpool do in the game not Arsenal that will determine the outcome.

    Arsenal are pretty consistent and play a decent standard of football but nothing exceptional.

  27. Dissenter

    Liverpool will be vulnerable to the cross. They’ve been conceding goals from crosses under Klopp.

    I’m afraid I don’t get this Walcott-mania.
    It has to be his soft and cuddly baby looks. It’s not his football acumen.
    Theo’s best games have been home games.

  28. Wallace

    Louis

    I understand your point, I’m just worried about another Southampton with the Flamini/Ramsey midfield. I think Chambers offers more technically than Flamini. will be more useful against the press.

  29. Emiratesstroller

    Arsenal drew 2-2 last season in the away game against Liverpool with Skrtel
    scoring equalizer in last minute of extra time. Skrtel has been our nemesis in
    this fixture in last two seasons and he will be missing.

    Interestingly Flamini was DMF in that game and scored a goal!

    Whilst we will be missing Sanchez the other point of interest is that Ozil was
    missing in that game and so was Giroud and Walcott. We played Welbeck.

    On paper I think that despite injuries we are a more solid team than last season with Bellerin and Monreal replacing Debuchy and Gibbs at full back.

  30. gambon

    Dissenter

    Apart from right back i wouldnt sign any “squad players”

    I would sign top class players, therefore demoting current first teamers to a squad role.

    For me….when everyone is fit….Cazorla, Ramsey, Walcott and Giroud should all be on the bench.

  31. Wallace

    Louis

    while Gabriel’s a lot better header of the ball than Mertesacker he’s also six or seven inches smaller. Benteke’s a concern for me if we go Gab/Kos.

  32. Carts

    “Did not know Barca was in deep sh.it financially. May be Kroenke and Usamanov can loan Arsenal to buy Neymar. Their wage bill is at unsustainable 73% of total revenue.”

    Now rumour has it that they’ve activated Leroy Sane clause e37m, reportedly. COupled with the fact that they’re to be fined around e20m for their part in falsifying the amount they paid for Neymar. Effectively, cheating Neymar’s joint handlers out of more money than they originally received.

  33. Paulinho

    If Liverpool play a high pressing game and go for the throat I can see them winning pretty easily. We’re still a mediocre side with some very good individuals that rely on the opposition sitting off us and letting us turn and face the play.

    We’ve seen time and time again we can’t turn and face the play if pressed.

    Just got to hope Cech rescues us and then take advantage when Liverpool become ragged in the second half.

  34. Emiratesstroller

    correction Flamini provided assist not scored goal and Giroud did play and scored second goal.

    The two goalscorers for Liverpool last season were Coutinho and Skrtel neither of whom will be available.

    The question which should be asked is whether are Liverpool are now a better
    team than the one , which played against us last season. Frankly the answer is
    no.

    Also will Arsenal be better than last season. My view is that despite absence of
    Cazorla and Sanchez we will probably be better when you factor in Cech, Bellerin, Monreal and Ozil.

  35. Dissenter

    Tunny,
    Ideal squad players don’t earn 80k weekly.
    That’s a flawed team.

    I have nothing against Welbeck. It’s just that he’s underwhelming.

  36. tunnygriffboy

    Dissenter

    Regular England international £80k a week is about average for England players. There are others who are on a lot lot more.

    When all our players are back there will be a lot of players on big money on the bench. Isn’t that what a big club has ?

  37. Dissenter

    Tunny,
    You have a point about the wages, I concede that.
    It’s just that we needed a CF to push Giroud and Welbeck doesn’t do that at all.
    He doesn’t do anything better than Giroud or Walcott.

    There were better and cheaper options when we got him.
    Like I said, Wenger admitted that he wanted him on loan first.

  38. Louis Almeida

    I agree. Don’t think Modric or Pogba should’ve been in the Fifpro X1. Where’s Rakitic/Busquets?

    Also at the back did people not see how bad Thiago Silva was at Copa America?

  39. Dissenter

    If Hodgson is smart, Welbeck shouldn’t even have a sniff of playing for England this Euros.
    There are better players available for England…. but knowing him, he’ll kowtow to the big clubs.

  40. Marko

    Marcelo and Dani Alves as full backs? Think they take FIFA 16 stats more into account rather than form and consistency over the year.

  41. Marko

    Marcelo and Dani Alves as full backs? Think they take FIFA 16 stats more into account rather than form and consistency over the year.

    How does that comment go into moderation?

  42. Bamford10

    I’d start Oxlade over Campbell wide right, not because Ox is in better form than Campbell at moment — he’s not — but because Ox has a higher ceiling and needs opportunities to get back to form. If he plays poorly, you can bring Campbell on in the second half.

    Agree with Tunny that Welbeck gets too much stick on here. Good squad player, as he is versatile, technical and athletic. Problem is we needed an improvement on Giroud — not someone comparable — along with fact that Welbeck might now be crocked.

  43. Bamford10

    I’d start Oxlade over Campbell wide right, not because Ox is in better form than Campbell at moment — he’s not — but because Ox has a higher ceiling and needs opportunities to get back to form. If he plays poorly, you can bring Campbell on in the second half.

    Agree with Tunny that Welbeck gets too much ***** on here. Good squad player, as he is versatile, technical and athletic. Problem is we needed an improvement on Giroud — not someone comparable — along with fact that Welbeck might now be perma-injured.

  44. DUIFG

    The Ramsey-Flamini pivot scares me. Surprisingly I’ve been impressed with Chambers in midfield (Bournemouth & Sunderland) when I didn’t think I would be. He has very good technical skills although his mobility on the turn is still questionable. With El Nenny arriving though it’s not an experiment that will last long. Didn’t realise how young El Nenny actually was. 23 is a good age though. Let’s see how he gets on.

    really? even against sunderland he got dispossesed quite a bit. i dont want to write him off but currently im not seeing the makings of much of a plyer in any position, i want to get proved wrong but right now im actually happier playing flamini which says a hell of a lot

  45. Samesong

    I’d start Oxlade over Campbell wide right, not because Ox is in better form than Campbell at moment — he’s not — but because Ox has a higher ceiling and needs opportunities to get back to form. If he plays poorly, you can bring Campbell on in the second half.

    I tend to agree with Bamford on this. Ox is more dynamic. The only issue I have with Ox is will he leave bellerin exposed at the back.

  46. DUIFG

    pweople always bang on about mert being slow but how many times is he properly torn a new one because of it? rare3ly, its a balanced pair him and kos, gab and kos havent quite got the same undertanding atm.

    Mert is pretty critical to us doing anything of note this season

  47. Bamford10

    Metro reporting that we’re in for Ozyakup for 9m. Good player, but that would be an unfortunate piece of business given we sold him for like 800k. Will say I didn’t like that decision at the time. Seemed a very skillful player.

  48. Carts

    I thought Pogba deserved a mention. Though I consider the season before to be better than his last. Statistically I could be wrong.

  49. DUIFG

    I understand your point, I’m just worried about another Southampton with the Flamini/Ramsey midfield. I think Chambers offers more technically than Flamini. will be more useful against the press.

    you are basing this comment on 2 games against very very poor teams at home. its a different beast at anfield, he had a mare against them at home at CB when he had time for days

  50. Bamford10

    Continued reports that we’re close to signing these two young Nigerians. Hope so. Would be nice to have genuinely promising players coming up through the youth ranks.

  51. DUIFG

    No JC wide for me, I agree ox higher ceiling but for game shape tonigth i want JC as he gets tighter to bellerin and is more sound from a defensive standpoint, ox can be dynamic as a sub if needed.

  52. Uwot?

    Expect if they’re all passed fit a mickey mouser midfield of work horses & shit kickers..I.e no neck Milner,Henderson.,can & serial fouler Leica.throw in a shit ref.weak( non physical)midfield & we’re well & truly shafted.it’s on the cards.they will play like men possessed.we won’t.cue”we played with the handbrake on”

  53. Wallace

    Bamford

    ” Good player, but that would be an unfortunate piece of business given we sold him for like 800k. Will say I didn’t like that decision at the time.”

    some players have to leave to develop. no way he improves to the extent he obviously has stuck in our reserves the last 3yrs.

  54. Champagne Charlie

    Laurent Blanc saying he’d “understand if Cavani wanted to pursue other career opportunities”, with his unrest at being played out of position unhelpful to the team.

    United must be all over that with their god awful strike force. Hes 29 late February, so a good 3.5 years left at the very top level. Surely that would be a great option and finally put Theo in his place as a winger. Cavani and Giroud as central ST’s. ..

  55. Carts

    Bamford

    Lol was being scarky, but having seen very little of Ozy, barring a few Europa League games, I’d be surprised if we brought him back.

    I do recall that he’s very technical and plays the game at a nice pace, though

  56. Carts

    Champagne

    I have a feeling that once Zlatan leaves this summer and the impending departure of an unhappy Cavani, PSG will mount a massive bid for Lukaku – close to £50m, easily.

    Just getting Zlatan and Cavani off the books frees up about e350k (if not more) in wages per month and about £30m from the potential sale of Cavani

  57. Leedsgunner

    Ozyakup I think has dual Dutch citizenship alongside his Turkish one so he wouldn’t encounter the work permit problems that Elneny has. Isn’t he primarily an attacking midfielder though? What position does his play for his present club?

    I don’t think it’s a problem that we are bringing back a player, especially for a sum as low as £9m, if it helps us to win the title.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if AFC inserted a buy back clause anyway… at least he wouldn’t take as long getting used to the club. He’s only 23, a good age… to kick on from.

    If he’s signed though where does that leave Wilshere? Increasing marginalised, that’s what.

  58. tunnygriffboy

    Bamford

    Yeay Ozkyup has been mentioned in a few windows. Not sure how much truth is in it.

    With us signing Elneny I was hoping we’d bag a top midfielder in the summer. I suppose with Elneny and Ozkyup that would leave huge money for an attacking player in the summer.

    Intersting times. With Flamini, Arteta and Rosicky leaving and being replaced with young , dynamic ambitious players we are getting to a good place.

    Yes, Welbeck a really good squad player.

  59. Relieable Sauce

    Wenger praising JC in the pre-match, mentions the good combination play with Bellerin, workrate etc.
    A big hint towards the starting line-up??

    JC makes more sense WR in the circumstances and he merits his place on form and application. Ox should be coming off the bench to effect the game in the final 3rd only imo. Will Wenger start him in CM though?

  60. Relieable Sauce

    Wenger strongly hints toward playing JC wide right, and in this situation I’d say, Arsene knows best. 😉

    He could of course be bluffing, or starting Ox in CM.
    : /

  61. Paulinho

    This higher ceiling thing with Chamberlain is completely illusory. It’s based on this surge from midfield and shot that people think think he’s capable of on the regular; but yet has never actually happened in the five years he’s been here.

    You need cool, methodial, cute players at Anfield. Players that are not afraid to take up little pockets in inside channels and expose their natural tendency leave gaps by pressing too high and wide. Why play dense player like Chamberlain who will just play into their hands by taking up wide positions all night and never actually have the balls to take up positions close to goal?

  62. Ozy

    What a message that would send to Campbell. To drop him for a consistently inconsistent average English player just because he’s English.

    What a riot.

  63. vicky

    I always champion Ox but I agree today Campbell should start ahead of him. We need to keep it tight today, JC does not lose the ball easily and can make good passes even in tight spaces. Of course he defends better than Ox. Ox is more suited against sides which sit deep and look for counterattack. I will also keep Mertesacker at the back. We look more organized with Koss-BFG at the back. I like Gabriel but his passing is a bit erratic, Liverpool with their pressing game will put Gabriel under a lot of pressure.

  64. DUIFG

    paulinho, could you play jc in cm? the guys versatility is due to him having strong charecteristics across a lot of skill sets. I concede his decision making can be turd especially in over playing terms, but remember rambo had this problem as well before e worked his way out of it.

    JC is the better option tonigth out wide but long term ox definitely is the better player of the two

  65. Sam

    Ozyakup was sold coz he didn’t want to be loaned
    Best passer in the youth team, if we are interested in buying him back means he has not regressed

  66. Paulinho

    Disagree about long term Ox being better player. At what point is this mythical talent going to actually do something tangible, you know, to actually suggest he’s that talented?

    Just don’t see it.

    Think he would worse in central midfield as well. Even less time on the ball there than he gets on the wing.

  67. Leedsgunner

    “I’d start Oxlade over Campbell wide right, not because Ox is in better form than Campbell at moment — he’s not — but because Ox has a higher ceiling and needs opportunities to get back to form. If he plays poorly, you can bring Campbell on in the second half.”

    I would respectfully disagree.

    Campbell’s industry on both ends of the pitch is very suitable for the pressing game that Klopp will most likely employ against us. We need to play the individuals that will most likely get us the win and three points on the night rather than just playing individuals to give them game time so they can play themselves into form… as long as Joel is not overly exhausted or injured he should be getting the nod… he is the in form winger at the moment. It is to his credit that Campbell has grabbed his opportunity with both hands — their spot should not be given up so easily. As soon as Sanchez comes back Campbell will be relegated to the bench, let’s use his good form while we can.

    If Chamberlain needs games and game time it’s better to do that doing Cup ties against lower league opposition rather than using an EPL competitive fixture as a glorified run out.

    What do people mean by a higher ceiling anyways? Potential? How do you measure that to say that one tell whether one player has a higher ceiling than any other? Surely it’s very subjective at best. In any case, a player can supposedly have the highest ceiling at the club but IF he is continually injured so that he can’t display that talent it counts for nothing.

  68. underrated Coq

    “JC is the better option tonigth out wide but long term ox definitely is the better player of the two”

    I see so many say this but what is it actually based on? Can’t be what they’ve shown on the field.

    The only thing Campbell badly lacks is pace to burn.

    Ox on the other hand lacks positional sense and discipline, he doesn’t show awareness, is erratic and lacks calmness and composure in his play and also has question marks over his footballing intelligence. His end-product is poor as well.
    Pace and power can only get you so far.

  69. vicky

    ” see so many say this but what is it actually based on”

    Not everything in football can be explained by just stats if that’s what you were trying to insinuate. Be tolerant to those who believe in Ox, it’s not a crime in having faith in him 🙂

  70. DUIFG

    underrated, this is where ox has let himself down in terms of his form being very patchy, you can point to games to where he has been magical , united, ac, bayern away which suggest we have a major player on our hands.

    These were very similar arguments we saw for rambo, once he started to cut out his im zizou shit he really turned into one of our most solid performers, the talent was always there just he was letting himself down. Ox looks similar to me, needs to help himself and keep it simple

  71. underrated Coq

    “it’s not a crime in having faith in him”

    Ofcourse not but it is extremely harsh on Campbell to declare Ox is the better player based only on ‘faith in potential’ when actual performances say otherwise.

  72. Louis Almeida

    If Ox just had a bit more composure like Campbell in the final third then he’d be a bigger threat because he’s a better ball carrier over longer distances, and that’s why Wenger likes to play him CM sometimes. Campbell has better combination play and general technique, while Ox does a lot of nice runs and fancy dribbles which never end in end product. Needs to up his game. I think Campbell’s form might be good for him because it’ll give a shot in the arm where necessary. I’m sure Wenger will persist anyway. He’s not exactly the biggest of our problems.

  73. tunnygriffboy

    I like the Ox and imo has great potential. However atm Campbell is playing the better more consistent football. Keep Ox on the bench where hopefully he’ll be joined by Rosicky tonight.

  74. underrated Coq

    DUIFG, not sure about the Ramsey comparisons. Say whatever you want about his execution but he’s always shown intelligence in his play,something you cannot say of Ox. I really have doubts over how Ox fits in a possession based system.

  75. Louis Almeida

    So Nolito is going to finish his career where he started it. He’s barely going to play though. And I’m interested to see how he gets on because he struggled in the Primeira Liga.

  76. Sam

    Oxlade will progress
    Wenger won’t give up on him plus he’s surrounded by great players he trains daily
    I see this powerful playing as our false 9 in the future n banging in goals for us