5 things we learned from Arsenal vs Bournemouth

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Goooooooood morning kids! And adults. And the trolls.

Welcome to another match report from me.

So yesterday was the chance to pick ourselves up and jump back into the title race.

Pregame, we had strong results from Spurs, a point from United and Chelsea (mwhaha!) and some other teams continuing to progress on the sly (like Palace).

So it was all on us to take down a Bournemouth team that have pulled off shock results against United and Chelsea already. Eddie Howe is a very good young English coach and he’s doing wonders with a pretty limited budget and team.

It was banana skin on toast yesterday. I really thought we could drop our level, play the victims and lose some points.

I was wrong.

I didn’t count on Arsene having a reshuffle of the pack (finally). He brought in Chambers at DM (HOORAY), he slipped Chamberlain in for Campbell (oooohhhhh) and he swapped out Koscielny for Gabriel (HOOORAY).

What was the result?

A high energy performance!

(HOOORAY!)

Really, it was kind of the Mesut Ozil show. He ripped them to shreds creating 9 clearcut chances. He didn’t even look like breaking sweat (by the way, Arsenal fans online, give it a rest with the, ‘you should have listened to me when I said he’d be incredible’ malarkey… every, single, game. We get it. Mesut it grateful and your tweets from 1986 predicting this moment make you the sage of sages)

We took the lead when he flew a speculative ball into the box, Gabriel was the only man following in and his header into the top corner gave us the deserved lead.

We struggled to convert all the chances we were being given by Mesut which gave me the jitters.

In the second half we picked up our much needed second goal, Mesut started the move again finding Giroud by eluding 4 players, the Frenchman nonchalantly flicked the ball back to the German on the one two, he cooly slotted home sauntering off with that weird celebration he does with his fingers (thanking the 462,000 Arsenal tweeters who were RIGHT about his superpowers).

We shut down after that not seeking to risk out clean sheet (and Petr Cech’s Premier League record).

No injuries. No drama. Just points.

So what did we learn?

Giroud:

Lot of angst over the Frenchman’s performance and I feel some of it is a little unfair. This happens most years, he starts off really well, then he hits breaking point, his performances drop and he gets injured. He’s carried our frontline for a long time and he’s had very few breaks in-between. I think he’s a tireless workhorse and I think he needs a few games off to recharge.

Bigger issue is that even when he’s fit he’s not quite what we need, but we’ll have to worry about that next summer.

Ozil:

He has too much class for our frontline. He’s in dream like form at the moment, but we don’t have the players to finish off what he’s providing. This is up to Arsene to address in the summer because we’re currently wasting the talent we have. Imagine if there was a Robin on the end of those chances? It’d be crazy.

Imagine, if those fans that made Mesut the player he is today via Twitter, could conjure up a solution?

Rotation:

Whenever I talk about rotation, fans message back and say… ‘well, if we rotated and we lost, you’d be annoyed’… sure, great well thought out response. The plan would usually be to rotate and win. The issue then isn’t the rotation, it’s on the motivation of the second string. Yesterday showed that in the right games, rotation works. My argument is that Bournemouth were far more dangerous that Sunderland and Aston Villa before them. We need to take our moments when to rest players. We need to have more belief in the fringe players and we need to make sure we always have energy on the park. Southampton is what happens when you ignore players needs.

Chambers:

He had a pretty good game. He looks more at ease on the ball than Flamini and his range of passing looked good just in front of the back four. I also think his background as a defender will put him on a good footing to develop. Is he ready for Barca? Probably not, but he’s ready to play more games for us and he’s ready to transition Flamini into retirement? I’d say so.

Title Race:

You’re out of it. You’re in it. It’s so messed up this year, you might as well not talk about the impact one result will have.

It’s all about focus. The team that decides it wants to focus will be king.

It’s exciting though. Money isn’t the dark overlord anymore, great news. The top is closer to the bottom. Great coaching is the hero.

Hooray indeed.

Let’s hope Wenger can prove that when the playing field is levelled, his ways are the best ways.

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  1. tunnygriffboy

    Giroud looks knackered. He needs a rest. He looks awful when he’s tired always had. Oh for a fit Welbeck. His goal return this season so far has been really good. Bench him for Newcastle. He’s a handful when fresh

    Theo may hit a purple patch. Gets into great positions with his runs.

    Why the Ramsey uber criticism ? Gerard, Lampard and Souness all sing his praises and rate him very highly. He has a few rough edges but with the right player alongside him to compliment him he’ll be a top player. Gives a huge amount of drive and energy to the team as well as his talent. By all accounts this Elneny has serious energy as well.

  2. tunnygriffboy

    Jim

    Some players are out of our money range. Some clubs won’t sell. Some players are happy where they are.

    Keep an eye on Bayern. Pep leaves. Lewandowski and Muller may fancy a move, a new challenge and a huge bumper contract. If we could win the title that would make us an even more attractive proposition. Sell them a vision, a youngish squad just about when players hitting their peak. City, man u and chelsea will throw obscene money at it so we have to be smart.

  3. Bamford10

    Tunny

    “Gets into great positions with his runs.”

    Yes, and then fluffs his lines.

    Pacy as they come, but poor technically. That he isn’t a better footballer is partly on Wenger, who has had him under his tutelage for years now but has developed his game very little.

  4. daz

    It’s exciting though. Money isn’t the dark overlord anymore, great news. The top is closer to the bottom. Great coaching is the hero.

    Hooray indeed.

    Let’s hope Wenger can prove that when the playing field is levelled, his ways are the best ways.

    But I thought he has always had lots of money?

  5. Red&White4life

    “When would players like Rosicky, Wilshere, Cazorla, Coquelin, Sanchez and Arteta coming back?”

    Arteta : please, NEVER!!

  6. Cesc Appeal

    Walcott’s finishing was terrible yesterday, Giroud’s wasn’t much better and I thought Ramsey was seriously poor.

    Oxlade was decent enough, Chambers did surprisingly well and I’d certainly give him a run out again and see what he’s like in a higher pressure midfield battle, Gabriel was great and Ozil was on a different planet.

    That final ball that Walcott absolutely hashed was magnificent. As was his first time pass Walcott hashed, as was his floated over the top ball Walcott hashed, as was his cross Giroud hashed.

    Not exaggerating, Ozil could have had 4-5 assists last night and broken Henry’s record.

    This is the thing about Arsenal for years, we never seem to have a spread of quality, we have points of quality in the side that are slightly negated a bit by the lack of it elsewhere.

    When you have RVP, the attacking midfield wasn’t good enough to fully take advantage, now you have Ozil, the attackers aren’t good enough , when you had a great attack with Fabregas, Nasri, Arshavin and RVP, the CDM, defence and GK wasn’t good enough.

    We never have ‘the complete’ thing. Wenger was content to do that again this season, Schniederlin, Aubameyang and say a smart RM buy and I honestly think we’d be winning this league at a canter.

    Anyway, for Newcastle:

    ——————Cech
    Bellerin, Gabriel, Kozz, Monreal
    ——–Chambers, Ramsey
    ——–Oxlade, Ozil, Campbell
    —————Walcott

    Or:

    ——————-Cech
    Bellerin, Gabriel, Kozz, Monreal
    —Ramsey, Chambers, Flamini
    ——————–Ozil
    ———-Walcott, Campbell

    And then hopefully we will have Sanchez back for Liverpool as well as having made a January move by then, but this is Arsene.

  7. Bamford10

    Tunny

    Daily Mail says Elneny will undergo a medical today in Paris, but deal finalization will still wait on his visa application.

  8. tunnygriffboy

    Today I’ve read that Gibbs is shite, Ramsey is shite, Giroud is shite, Walcott is shite and Ox is shite.

    If this is the case how are we top of the league ?

    If this is the case and they are all poor then Wenger must be a magician for getting them to the top of the league ?

    For heaven’s sake we’ve had half a squad unavailable for the last 7 games due to injury. We’ve won 6 of them and been battered once. We’re top half way through the season with a lot of quality to come back.

    My concern is that they won’t return quickly enough. The return of Alexis, Welbeck and Coquelin are important especially the Coq. If we are within 3 or 4 points come the beginning of March then we have a really good chance with our fixture run in and our returnees

    We have to bolster our squad this window. Any news any one on Elneny ?

  9. Berg

    Tunnygriffboy so Santi isn’t right player to play with Ramsay, neither is Coquelin or flamini or chambers. Have you ever considered its Ramsay that isn’t good enough midfielder to control a game

  10. Cesc Appeal

    Who are ‘the others’ in February.

    Seriously, don’t expect to see Coq, Caz or Wilshere in February. Wenger said ‘honestly I don’t know’ with Wilshere, Caz has knee surgery and the date was ‘around’ March, same with Coq when first reported.

    Would also be very cautious over setting any sort of return date for Welbeck.

    This is what I’m saying, what we have coming back is Sanchez, Arteta and Rosicky. Whilst Sanchez is great and Rosicky a good option, Arteta is finished and it in no way cures our midfield problem.

  11. Red&White4life

    “Mauricio Pochettino says it is possible for Tottenham to compete for the Premier League title after a 2-1 win at Watford. ”

    This was the joke of the day.

  12. Bamford10

    Daz

    “But I thought he has always had lots of money?”

    Straw man. No one has ever claimed that there weren’t years where he had less than others or where he had less than he has available today.

    But what the fuck does he do even when he has money?

    Scrimp. Not sign what is needed. Stick with average and past-it players.

    Fuck off with your bullshit Wenger apologias.

  13. Nasri's Mouth

    Shad: That’s hilarious about Walcott being fatigued when he’s barely been in the starting 11 majority of his career

    Why ? I meant he’d played 2 games in less than 3 days.

  14. Red&White4life

    “Elneny will undergo a medical today in Paris”

    El Nino ??
    Torres to sign for Arsenal ??

    Holy shit, he’s more than welcome !! lol

  15. daz

    Berg

    Ramsey is not there to control the game though is he, he’s not pirlo he’s an all action midfielder he will be making a tackle in our box one minute then being on the end of a chance the next

  16. tunnygriffboy

    Berg

    Ramsey is a box to box player. Explain to me how Flamini or Chambers are good enough to play in CM against the top teams. Santi wouldn’t work because he’s not a DM and lacks the physicality to play as one.

    Coquelin has played a couple of games with Ramsey. Not a huge success but it would be worth re visiting now when Coquelin returns.

    Coquelin and Santi works because they compliment each other. Two seasons ago Arteta played with Ramsey and it worked really well.

  17. Cesc Appeal

    The whole Emirates financial thing is getting a little tiresome now, Wenger’s reluctance to spend last summer with £80 Million sat in his transfer budget maybe sort of hints at whilst certainly the Emirates move meant for a while there was no money, then a little, then some, Wenger has always been reluctant to spend, evidenced now when there is an abundance of funds.

  18. Mo

    It’s pretty cool when the worst team ever, managed by a clueless idiot, is top of the league.

    Weird that. I wonder how the armchair experts explain it? Aliens?

  19. Carts

    Ramsey is a bit of an enigma, if you ask me. He means well and probably believes he’s as important as, say, Ozil. However, my gripe with him is that I get the impression that he doesn’t truly believe he’s played his part if he keeps it simple. I mean, I sense dissatisfaction from Ramsey if he isn’t able to pull of a flick/trick; score; shot and/or assist.Now I appreciate that model pros want to be recognised for their performance but in Ramsey’s case,he strikes me as a player who, quite frankly, tries too hard. And it’s gotten to a point where watching him at times has become frustrating to the point whereby I’d rather not having him in the team.I don’t consider him pivotal. I don’t think he’s able to uniquely influence a game as much as we’d like. And I think Wenger’s admiration for Ramsey, derives from his comeback from injury and positive attitude – on and off the field.Maybe a bit harsh, whatever; but I’d much rather someone like Pjanic than Ramsey.

  20. Cesc Appeal

    I just wish Ramsey would do the basics sometimes, I lost count of the number of little flicks he did last night and I actually thought Chambers passing game was better from what I saw, more simple, more reliable.

    Needs to remember he’s a CM, not a CAM. No reason at all why he can’t be a WC player, needs to become more disciplined though.

    Certainly though after last night I want to see the Gabriel, Kozz partnership, let Cech be the voice of the back line and go for the high intensity, high physicality back line.

  21. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc Appeal

    When Wenger first came to Arsenal, he tended to spend what we had available. Obviously we were working with much smaller numbers then of course.

    It’s only recently that Wenger seems determined to only buy when he’s absolutely sure.

  22. daz

    Straw man. No one has ever claimed that there weren’t years where he had less than others or where he had less than he has available today.

    In fact yes there are tons of morons who say he’s always had loads of money and bullshit like he is keeping it for himself, for ten fucken years just ask joe 😉

  23. Bamford10

    Tunny

    “Today I’ve read that Gibbs is shite, Ramsey is shite, Giroud is shite, Walcott is shite and Ox is shite.”

    Clearly some here are frustrated by a few poor performances yesterday and are thus overstating things, but the point remains that many of the above are good players, but not great players. Actually I’d say several of the above are good-but-seriously-flawed players.

    The players above would not start for any of the world’ stop clubs, yet that is the level of player many of us expect from Arsenal, not to mention that that is the caliber some here claim these players to be. Relative to the players at a Bayern or Barca or Madrid, the players above are sort of “shite”.

    And we are top of the table because the best EPL teams aren’t all that great this year. City are actually quite good talent-wise, but they have defensive issues and injury woes.

    In many ways we are as a team what some of these players above are individually: good-but-seriously-flawed. That may be enough to compete for the title this season, but many of us believe we could and should be better than this.

  24. Cesc Appeal

    Tunny

    From what I’ve read Elneny seems a decent spot, but I haven’t seen it and I’ve heard a range of opinions from he’s good to he’s average at best.

    At £7 Million unless he really is a Kante type smart scout he should be a squad option at Arsenal, but we will see.

    But yes, we need to look at it as if Coq’s season is done, I think Caz’s will be, and who even cares about Wilshere any more?

    Xhaka type buy along with Elneny would be great, Xhaka doesn’t take Coq’s place but allows us to have a great mix in that middle and change things around to suit a contest, Ramsey, Xhaka, Coq and Elneny for central midfield options would be pretty good.

    Xhaka would cost £20-30 Million as well. So not bad. People are free to disagree, but I’d try for Arnautovic as well as I’ve said, I think he’s quite an underrated player, then in the summer look to move on one from Giroud, Walcott and Welbeck and loan out Oxlade freeing up space for another forward (preferably a great RM) to come in.

    Start to build a comprehensive squad, the league will never be like this again so we have to be stronger, no one could have predicted Chelsea’s sharp fall, United’s averageness and then Leicester smashing it.

    But, don’t look a gift horse in the mouth!

  25. steve

    “It’s pretty cool when the worst team ever, managed by a clueless idiot, is top of the league.Weird that. I wonder how the armchair experts explain it? Aliens?”

    Very poor Premier League this season.

  26. Nasri's Mouth

    gary: Daz, theres some who still believe moving to the emirates had no impact financially..

    Well, it didn’t have that much of an impact actually

  27. Berg

    Ok Ramsay as a box to box midfielder, does he score enough goals and is he is in good enough positions when we get hit on break. If he ain’t as a box to box player scoring enough goals from midfield and he ain’t the strongest or best at tackling that sorry he isn’t good enough to be in the team

  28. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    This is something I said a couple of years back, I think the frugality stage at Arsenal, and certainly there was one that Wenger navigated brilliantly, has never left him.

    Having been told he can’t win that way, and seeing that he could achieve 4th without spending means Wenger doesn’t see the need, he would rather opportunistically spend big and then keep going with what he has knowing the worst that can happen is 4th.

    That’s my opinion anyway, and it isn’t good enough.

  29. daz

    And we are top of the table because the best EPL teams aren’t all that great this year. City are actually quite good talent-wise, but they have defensive issues and injury woes.

    Injury woes? Injury woes? What one fucken player shit the bed if that’s fucken injury problems then maybe they shouldn’t have built there team on kompany’s shoulders, fuck off with your bullshit city apologias

  30. Nasri's Mouth

    Cesc Appeal: TunnyFrom what I’ve read Elneny seems a decent spot, but I haven’t seen it and I’ve heard a range of opinions from he’s good to he’s average at best.

    I have a friend who’s a Basel ST holder. His view is as a DM he’s improved a lot recently. Definitely one of the their better players, composed, good passer etc. but with the obvious caveat that there’s a big gap between the two leagues

  31. Berg

    Ramsay has 26 goals in 172 games for arsenal. Is that record good enough considering how often he spends in opposition box at times detriment to the team

  32. Cesc Appeal

    Must be transfer season, Cavani to Arsenal talk 😉 Haha

    Brozovic still linked, wonder if Wenger is going to look cheaper than we all want, Brozovic and Elneny for the middle combined cost of £20-25 Million?

  33. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    Good to hear.

    Yeah big gap, but I have read he’s quite a good physical player so that will allow him to slip into the league well, if his passing game is good as well just get him to stick to the basics whilst acclimatising.

    Really got my fingers crossed on him, because our middle is an issue, when it gets dominated we end up in big trouble.

  34. daz

    “It’s pretty cool when the worst team ever, managed by a clueless idiot, is top of the league.Weird that. I wonder how the armchair experts explain it? Aliens?”Very poor Premier League this season.

    You got that right Steve and your lot are the biggest culprits

  35. Nasri's Mouth

    Cesc Appeal: This is something I said a couple of years back, I think the frugality stage at Arsenal, and certainly there was one that Wenger navigated brilliantly, has never left him.

    Yah, it’s weird. There were stories (*)recently that Arsenal were almost ‘broke’ in the spring of 2004, yet Wenger bought Reyes (a massive purchase at the time) in January that year, when they’d have known exactly what was just around the corner.

    *John Cross reported it, hard to know how true it was, but we weren’t rolling in cash by any means at the time

  36. shad

    Ramsey and Ox need to simplify their game. Try to do too much and end up making the wrong choice more often than not. Dribbling when they should pass and vice versa. Not to mention with Ramsey’s expectation to help defensively, he really needs to have a quiet word with himself. Liked how Chambers kept it simple. Most times that is all that is needed in that position.

    Don’t know why people are all shocked with Theo’s display yesterday. It is a calamity that he is expected to play like the CF he is not. A well drilled CF would have had a hat trick off Ozil. Maybe Giroud would be better with pace but we can’t wish for more. All points to the stupidity that was the £40,000,001 bid. Suarez would be banging 40 goals if he played ahead of Ozil. Even RVP would be at 30+ goals.

  37. Sam

    It’s a start of season for oxlade Chamberlain and Calum Chambers
    Now sign El Niño coz We shouldn’t count on Wilshere n Arteta
    Bring in Wellington for Welbeck
    Sign one more player possibly a left sided defender
    Now close that stupid January window

  38. daz

    Honestly Walcott was poor yesterday and should have scored but why is everyone saying top class strikers would of had a hattrick? Because if Suarez scores 40 goals it ain’t off 40 chances more like 100+ chances so would he have had a hattrick are we certain?

  39. shad

    As for Elneny, he surely can’t be as bad as Arteta or Flamini there can he? Looks like a half-decent tackler and has a rocket of a right foot. Can’t really crap him before he’s put on the jersey and played a coupla games. But I’d rather a disciplined but slower DM than a headless chicken Ramsey bombing forward trying to be Pogba.

  40. Sam

    Ighalo reminds me of Benteke in Aston Villa shirt then got lost after a big move.

    Too many African nation cup players in the squad can be very costly
    I think if we sign El Niño he’ll be only one. Having 2 not a good idea

  41. shad

    “Honestly Walcott was poor yesterday and should have scored but why is everyone saying top class strikers would of had a hattrick? Because if Suarez scores 40 goals it ain’t off 40 chances more like 100+ chances so would he have had a hattrick are we certain?”

    Well, we are sure that they wouldn’t have missed all 4 of the gilt-edged chances Walcott missed. Can you imagine Suarez failing to bury any of those? Even Higuain would surely have converted one or 2. The issue with Walcott is he doesn’t trust his left foot, has a ropey first touch and can’t mix it up. He is simply not an instinctive striker and hence why he can’t even displace Giroud as no. 1 striker at the club.

  42. Berg

    He must be in his 20’s now as been around for ages. Hasn’t overly impressed on loan in Spain. Seemed to have more attitude problem than ability. Probably another we put on redicilous wage at a young age like betneder

  43. Sam

    Wellington just came back from hamstring injury
    He was on the bench yesterday
    Tell Bolton they can have Gnabry for the rest of the season

    Or Fok off

  44. Nasri's Mouth

    @Berg

    Wellington wont be on anything like the wage Bendtner was.

    Bendtner was a first team player, Wellington wasn’t.

  45. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    I remember reading that, wasn’t there something that the club were worried the players might not even get their wages at one moment until the last minute?

    I think that is what it is, the necessary frugality has just stayed with Wenger even to now where it is unnecessary.

  46. DivineSherlock

    Best game of Ox this season IMHO. I dont buy the reluctance to spend bullshit , its reluctance to spend on lesser quality players
    .

  47. shad

    Amazing game yesterday , Özil for Ballon D’or ??

    He was great but there’s a bias towards Spain. Neymar, Messi and Suarez have been unplayable this season. Lewandowski, Aubumeyang have been too.

  48. Nasri's Mouth

    Throughout his Arsenal career, Walcott has been a good finisher. Yesterday he was crap.

    Almost all players have off days, (Giroud was terrible against Monaco) but overall Walcott’s finishing isn’t a problem

  49. DivineSherlock

    I’m amazed people are still negative about our chances in PL. We are winning without Sanchez & Coquelin our two best players last season. Look how Chelsea dropped off when Hazard and Fabregas lost form. We have more than a fighting chance in the PL.

  50. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc Appeal

    Yeah, that’s the story.

    Maybe it changed him, maybe the club got scared, maybe the owner got scared, maybe the story is BS.

    Meh, impossible to know for sure, easy to speculate 🙂

  51. Sam

    We need to sign a left sided defender coz Monreal already played too much n Gibbs can’t stay fit
    February is when trouble starts n we should be prepared

    Flamini?

  52. daz

    I think that is what it is, the necessary frugality has just stayed with Wenger even to now where it is unnecessary.

    Could be, I saw an interview with Wenger where he basically said buying the league is not an achievement he wants to see if he can push his players to achieve more than they should be capable of

  53. DivineSherlock

    NM

    Ox coming into form is a great sign for us. Ox on right , Campbell on left and Ozil through the middle. That way one of Giroud or Walcott can have a rest.

  54. tunnygriffboy

    Bamford

    Giroud, Walcott, Gibbs, Ramsey and Ox are good to very good players not WC. They are the sort of players you need to have in a good squad. What we need to do is keep these players as part of the squad We should then get rid of Artetam Rosicky Flamini and Campbell replacing some of them with players of the calibre of Alexis and Ozil. That hugely strengthens us

    While we have money we are not able to turn into a team of galacticos eg man u. It obviously helps to have a lot of WC players but we are always likely to be in a situation where we have a sprinkling of WC talent, with good squad talent sprinkled with youngsters. Moulding all of those into a strong team with good team spirit is the way we will have to go.

    Cesc

    I’m quite looking forward toseeing Elneny play. I’ve read a fewcomments from Basel fans and they rate him quitehighly and are disappointed he’s leaving. DM his main position but has been playing b2b because it’s what the team need. They say he’s got a good range of passing, is pretty quick and got good energy.

    From last year’s CL when they got to last 16 up until that point he’d covered more ground than anyone in the competition. That’s an impressive stat. Hopefully he’ll hit the ground running. I reckon he’ll make his full debut in the FA cup tie.

  55. Nasri's Mouth

    @DivineSherlock

    With Giroud, Walcott, Sanchez, Ox and Campbell yes, Campbell, he’s partially proving I’m an idiot!) , we have enough quantity and quality to rotate and rest.

    We just need to find a way to give Ozil a game off somewhere.

  56. Relieable Sauce

    If WOB = chav, AKB = spud. More than happy to be the 2nd best FC in London and a style over substance cup team.

  57. Wallace

    “We just need to find a way to give Ozil a game off somewhere.”

    yeah, problem is the only players who can give us even a little of what Ozil does are Cazorla, Wilshere & Rosicky.

    that said, I’d definitely give him the FA Cup game off.

  58. Vince

    Cesc Appeal.
    I won’t mind Arnautovic as a striker actually, one of the best players in the league this year and scores every kind of goal. Actually there are quite a number of players outside the top 4 team who can improve us. For defensive midfield I will take Mvilla or Ettiene Capoue. They’ve looked amazing each time I’ve watched them especially Capoue.

  59. S Asoa

    Hooray Mesut Ozil with NINE (9) clear goal scoring assists .

    Wenger , on the other hand , is like a pig farmer who leads his “world class ” striker piglets to the trough where Ozil sends in his gems

    Wenger out. Allez avec votre chochons

  60. S Asoa

    Ramsey and Ox can be much better players if they simplify their game . Ramsey to some extent can retrieve the ball lost though his show mazes . But not worth the risk and slows the potential movement of the ball . Naturally the ball in a shot can fly faster than Ox runs and is more dangerous to the opposition.
    Le Imbecile will get it after 3 years – slow coach

  61. augie

    Tunny,

    There are very few players who are out of our price range. There are only a few clubs that we couldn’t persuade to sell to us. The issue with us, as always, is money – we have a huge transfer kitty available and yet the fool in charge decides to buy an Egyptian player from the swiss league. Most players have a selling price – yes it might end up costing £10m more than what they should, but if you are ambitious and want to bring in quality players, then that is what you must do sometimes.
    Lining up alongside average players like Walcott must wreck ozil’s head – imagine how many goals we would have scored yesterday if we had a top quality striker on the end of those sublime ozil passes. Instead of buying proven quality, we make do with what we have and that is why we will never win another league with this French cock in charge

  62. Red&White4life

    Clean Sheet ranking:

    1) Cech = 170 clean sheets for 352 games played
    2) David James = 169/572
    3) Mark Schwarzer = 152/514
    4) David Seaman = 142/344
    5) Nigel Martyn = 138/372
    6) Pepe Reina = 134/285
    7) Edwin van der Sar = 134/314
    8) Brad Friedel = 132/450
    9) Tim Howard = 130/389
    10) Peter Schmeichel = 129/310

  63. Nasri's Mouth

    Wallace: yeah, problem is the only players who can give us even a little of what Ozil does are Cazorla, Wilshere & Rosicky.

    Yah, exactly.

    We might have to try something a little different like Sanchez playing as a SS

  64. tunnygriffboy

    Augie

    We couldn’t afford Messi, Neymar, Suarez Ronaldo , Bale

    Would Barca, Bayern, Madrid, PSG sell to us if they didn’t want to ?

    Why so disparaging about Elneny ? Is it because he costs £5million ? We have a analytics system that delves very deeply into data on all sorts of things. This is a player who has been a key component in a small team reaching the last 16 of the CL and has done well in the Europa League this season.Give him a break. Let’s see him playbefore we castigate him

  65. Nasri's Mouth

    tunnygriffboy: Not just Ozil butRamsey as well. Hence Elneny I suppose. Ozil is the one.

    Maybe, don’t know enough about him to know whether he cover that role too. Probably better to play Ox there

  66. Nasri's Mouth

    tunnygriffboy: Let’s see him playbefore we castigate him

    Indeed, not that long ago, there were posters on here complaining that we didn’t spot the unsung talent at cheap prices.

    I’ve absolutely no idea how good/bad Elneny will be ,but let’s start to judge him when he’s played half a dozen games not before he’s played one

  67. Relieable Sauce

    Who exactly did Wenger have to rotate with Ozil over a 50 game season??
    Perma crocks JW & TR, and Santi (who is 1st choice CM)…with Arteta as cover!!!
    : /

  68. Red&White4life

    “Let’s see him playbefore we castigate him”

    LOL at first I was reading “before we castrate him”, time to change of glasses!!

  69. Nasri's Mouth

    @relieable Sauce

    Firstly, it’s nigh on impossible to have someone on the sidelines who can get close to replicating Ozil, but even with the usual injury suspects, we should have had enough cover to let him rest for the odd game.

    Still, I can’t see him playing in the FA Cup game, so he’ll get a nice break pre-Liverpool

  70. augie

    Tunny,

    I said that there are very few players that we cannot afford, so naming the elite players in the world as some of those that we cant afford doesn’t contradict my point.

    Why so disparaging about elneny ? In terms of the status of European leagues, the swiss league would be well down the ladder so I wouldn’t start endorsing any player based on his performances there. My gripe with him is also based on the fact that he is ANOTHER player unproven at the top level – when you have the type of funds available that wenger has, then why don’t we buy lars bender of carvalho for example ? Instead we buy players who will take time to adjust to this level are that isn’t good enough imo – NOW is the time to win the league as we will never get a better chance to win it. By the time the lad settles in, this season will be over and we will have extended our run with no league titles – I don’t mind buying a player like him if he is brought in to learn the ropes before being thrown in, but sadly that wont be the case with wenker.
    Buying skoda when you can afford audi makes no sense and will consign us to more heartbreak

  71. shad

    Indeed with Özil out we are short of creative mids, and he will need to be rested. Maybe give Reine-Adelaide a chance for the fringe games? *wears tin hat*

  72. Wallace

    “My gripe with him is also based on the fact that he is ANOTHER player unproven at the top level”

    hasn’t he been playing champions league football for the last 2/3 seasons? most would argue that’s the ‘top level’.

  73. Carts

    A few thing to mention:

    -Egyptian fella

    Whoever threw up the Eleney YT comp’ the other; but yeah, kid looks mental. Made me laugh how he loves a worldy but his “finishing” was deemed a negative. Yet the video showed fuck all regarding his alleged dire finishing.

    It’s fair to also assume that any real talk of signing a DM – now when I say real talk I’m mean the bods who are £20m+ – i all but over. For good. It’s back to snaring up and comers, and giving them more chances than a game of Super Mario. That’s Wenger’s MO ffs!

    -If They Simplified Their Game

    Forget it, lads. Again, what we see (with Ox and Rambo) is what we get. No one can, hand on bellend, say that they believe Wenger is working closely with these players to work on their NATURAL attributes. Cos if he was/does, we wouldn’t still be discussing them in the fashion that we are.

    It’s early doors of course, but I look at players like Alli, Dier, Sterling, Barkley, Stones and a few other and can see development. When I look at a few of our crop I see stagnation and indecision, sprinkled with inconsistency.

  74. shad

    Agree with Augie.
    With the money we have (which oscillates between £280m to £200m) of a transfer war chest, we should be doing better than Elneny. He could go and prove as wrong like Coq or be another disastrous signing of Wenger’s many.
    Wenger has infliltrated into the club and football fraternity within an earshout that we ail from poor man’s syndrome. The old man is a scrooge and treats club coffers like his persona account. A man who pockets £8.5m/year but is loathsome to spend an extra £5m to £10m when it really matters.
    There was a plethora of DMs in the summer but he gambled on his fanboys who predictably would spend their days on the treatment table. We could easily have got Kyrchowiak, Samper, Carvalho or Schneiderlin. But now we have to contend with an unknown which is so, so risky.
    The number of world class players we’ve let slip through because of one man’s pig headedness is astounding.

  75. Nasri's Mouth

    Shad: With the money we have (which oscillates between £280m to £200m) of a transfer war chest,

    It’s between £70-80m…

  76. augie

    Wallace,

    Most of Celtics squad have been playing champs league for the last few years…..does that make them good enough ? Why is there no other big clubs after this lad then ? This isn’t like the old days of scouting……..these days, with all the footie on telly, there are very, very few players that the big clubs haven’t heard about and are signed and turn out to be quality purchases. Big clubs scout every corner of the world (we are told) but yet we are the only big club alerted to this lad ??

  77. Danny

    We’re top of the league but lost 4-0 to Southampton. This reminded me of back in the day when we did the double, this happened:

  78. tunnygriffboy

    Augie

    Lars Bender and Carvalho have had serious injuries this season and Carvalho has only just come back. It is unlikely, not definite, that their clubs won’t sell them. It may be wee look there in the summer

    Elneny has play regular European football at a high level. Give the guy a break. Mahrez was identified by Leicester analytic system as was our very own Gabriel.. Mangala was thought to be an outstanding prospect and hyped to the extreme. £42 million. Otamendi £30 million. Gabriel cost just over £10 million.

    Before you shout Elneny down, give him a chance.

    NM

    Of those players we have fit Ramsey could play Ozil’s role (but who plays midfield). Alexis could play it all be it in a different manner with 3 out of Giroud, Campbell, Ox and Theo ahead of him.

  79. shad

    @NM,

    Was quoting Chairman’s “£200m” figure. Either way..assuming we have £70m and we got rid of majority of the deadwood, we’d be looking at probably £100m+ including saved wages.
    Young kids want to play for Wenger because of security of tenure and that he’ll put up with all BS and ills just to prove the world wrong. Stuck by a broken Diaby, bought a broken Kallstrom, bought a ligue 2 unknown who’d start against Bayern (burned in my mind that one), etc etc

  80. underrated Coq

    CA

    “This is the thing about Arsenal for years, we never seem to have a spread of quality, we have points of quality in the side that are slightly negated a bit by the lack of it elsewhere.

    When you have RVP, the attacking midfield wasn’t good enough to fully take advantage, now you have Ozil, the attackers aren’t good enough , when you had a great attack with Fabregas, Nasri, Arshavin and RVP, the CDM, defence and GK wasn’t good enough.We never have ‘the complete’ thing. ”

    And post of the day goes to …..

  81. Cesc Appeal

    This summer though our budget should be easily over £100 Million, need to do some selling as well.

    Next season could be very exciting if we get the next two windows right…oh right 🙂

  82. augie

    Tunny,

    again I make the point that Leicester bought mahrez because he was in the price range – if they could have afforded (for example) marco reus, would they have still bought mahrez ? Any proper manager would opt for the proven top quality manager 99% of the time………wenger is the missing 1%.
    I will also say that this wankathon about mahrez is a bit premature imo – the guy is in the middle of an outstanding season, but one season does not make him top quality. Over this side of Europe we are far, far to quick to anoint players as top quality on the back of a few good months and that also applies to vardy and the guy from watford

  83. daz

    Big clubs scout every corner of the world (we are told) but yet we are the only big club alerted to this lad ??

    No, but maybe we are the first to make a move for him?

  84. Nasri's Mouth

    @shad

    We’re talking about Jan though.

    Come the summer, we’ll have more money, but then we’ll need to replace more players.

    Currently we have around £70-80m we could spend according to people like AST who are pretty impartial.

    Elneny could end up being a bargain, he’s at the right age to be making a breakthrough, he’s played football at a decent level already, and his skill set is kinda what we’re looking for in a DM.

    However he could also end up being nothing more than cover. But given that we need to replace Arteta AND Flamini (plus others) we’re going to need cover anyway, so on the surface his purchase seems sensible, if not thrilling

    There’s been some talk recently about us signing Carvalho / Danilo, but then the feedback is that there’s very little chance of either being sold in Jan. Maybe we’re lining up for one of those in the summer ?

    Meh, anyway, it’s pointless speculating about him until he’s played.

  85. Nasri's Mouth

    augie: again I make the point that Leicester bought mahrez because he was in the price range – if they could have afforded (for example) marco reus, would they have still bought mahrez ?

    Quite possibly yes. Assuming they haven’t got unlimited funds, they’ll be looking at improving the whole squad, so they’ll need that cash for the other 10 positions etc.

  86. underrated Coq

    Yeah, Theo was pretty wasteful yesterday. But what did get me excited was the way his runs and Ozil’s passes were in perfect sync, almost telepathic. It was as if they’ve been playing together for years when actually this is the first time they’re getting a run of games together. He’s gonna start banging some in sooner rather than later.

  87. Relieable Sauce

    NM

    Ozil, Ramsey, Coq and Santi are/were set for a high workload this season with the lack of adequate cover we had in MF and Wengers reluctance to rotate.
    Buying a CM would have allowed us the opportunity to rest/rotate all 4 of those midfielders throughout the season. Santi certainly needed to be played more selectively this season to get the most out of him, and to a certain extent Ozil as well.

    We should have a more reliable 1st team squad for a club competing at the highest level and in four competitions. One 3rd top quality, one 3rd good squad players, and the rest made up with kids and maybe a crock or two, is imo what we need to be aiming for if we are attempting to win the UCL.

  88. Wallace

    underrated

    “Yeah, Theo was pretty wasteful yesterday. But what did get me excited was the way his runs and Ozil’s passes were in perfect sync, almost telepathic. It was as if they’ve been playing together for years when actually this is the first time they’re getting a run of games together. He’s gonna start banging some in sooner rather than later.”

    I agree.

  89. Wallace

    augie

    “Most of Celtics squad have been playing champs league for the last few years…..does that make them good enough ?”

    I don’t know, which Celtic players are we buying?

  90. tunnygriffboy

    Augie

    Mahrez had a good season last year as well. Re Elneny, the write ups I’ve read and the stats I’ve seen suggest there is something about him. We’ll have to wait and see. I agree we should have bought in the summer to cover Coquelin.

    It’s possible we’ll make a big bid for a top midfielder in the summer who may not be available now,

    Cesc

    Re our budget next summer. We should have this seasons £80 million, next seasons projected budget plus an extra £100 million from the new TV deal. Also with Arteta, Flamini and Rosicky leaving we save ourselves 200k a week in wages

    In the summer we should be looking at Real with Hazard likely to move there. With Isco, Jesse and James aleady fed up we should be sniffing around. Ditto Bayern with Pep leaving. It may be that the likes of Lewandowski and Muller may fancy a new challenge and bumper pay deal.

    The first thing I’d do with the new money is put a £200k a week contract in front of Mesut and Alexis and tell them we’re buying two players of their quality to move the team forward.

  91. underrated Coq

    Also find the comments re Giroud’s wastefulness a bit harsh. As far as I remember he had just the two chances.

    One where Ozil floated the ball into the box and Giroud brought it down well. But he had his back to goal and was being pressurized by the defender and thus couldn’t turn and shoot.

    The second was that give and go with Ozil which culminated in the cutback. Giroud had loads of space but Ozil’s pass was hit slightly behind and Giroud couldn’t readjust quickly. A difficult chance. A few centimeters further and he probably slots that into the corner of the net. Rarely misses those.

  92. Cesc Appeal

    Tunny

    Yeah, need to make some big moves in the next two windows.

    Arteta, Flamini and Rosicky are all gone, Wilshere should be sold and then make a choice over selling one of Giroud, Walcott or Welbeck.

    Go for a CM like Xhaka, or Carvalho or whoever takes our fancy, a CB I think, RM and a ST. Might also need a RB as well if Debuchy decides to leave.

    I always say though, is Arsene Wenger the man to do it? You’re talking probably a net spend of £70-100 Million. But its what’s necessary to build a comprehensive side, unless you just want to keep repeating the same issues over and over.

    People can say ‘well we’re not doing bad,’ but we haven’t won anything yet, we still have suffered the same issues we always do just this team in a very up and down league, a league where Leicester are 1st and Chelsea 16th. Can’t bank on this happening again and we don’t want to be a one season hit.

    No reason we can’t win the league this season and then go from strength to strength…well there is one reason.

  93. Micheal

    Can’t believe people are talking about who we should buy in the summer transfer window. For fuck’s sake, we could win the League EPL this season with a bit of sensible in vestment.

  94. Relieable Sauce

    Tunny

    You might be right, but the story doing the rounds that I’ve heard, is that Mahrez was spotted by the scout when he was actually there to watch a different player. Havent heard the data analysis version anywhere else before.

  95. daz

    RS

    Apparently the data analysis is something we have been using the Gabriel signing was off the back of it, can’t remember the name of the company we purchased that is responsible

  96. Samesong

    Pavel Srnicek said : Jul 2015

    ”He will be a leader. It’s expected that Petr Cech will be the trump card for Arsenal and they can fight for their first title in a long time. And maybe even win it.”

    RIP Pav

  97. Savage

    “The issue then isn’t the rotation, it’s on the motivation of the second string”

    It’s also about cohesion. As you’ve mentioned in a previous blog, we have more cohesion than City. I agree with a limited amount of rotation, up to the point that you don’t disrupt cohesion.

  98. shad

    @underrated,

    The cutback to L’Oreal got wasted because Giroud didn’t time his run into the box properly. He started going in then stopped, as if he didn’t expect it, because Özil’s body shape was that he’d whip in a cross with pace to the far post. Bu the time he realized the cut back was intended for him, the ball was already on his peg of a right foot and he couldn’t shift his feet in time while having chosen a spot.

    Hard to slate him otherwise. The profligacy was mainly with Theo.

  99. nigel tufnel

    I know we missed some chances, but you all act like youve never seen other teams have days like that.

    Remember when we started slowly this season, and Wenger said we were creating loads of chances?

    That to me is what separates us from most other teams. We still create that many, and theee will be days that more or less get finished.
    You can’t lose your minds over missed chances. It’s part of the game. And remember, we are still playing without key guys, and the cohesion is good.
    Ox looked excellent, did 90. Chambers was much better than expected. His confidence grew and he can play football. The confidence and experience will help him at cb also.

  100. El Salvidor

    @shad we already have to many offensive midfielders and he not Ozil league we need more stability player’s who are going to dig there heals in like Wanyama pretty footbal great fun to watch but Mark Huges has done it right solid goalkeeper solid back line solid midfield and a front 3 to do as and play as free as they want too

  101. Relieable Sauce

    Daz

    Yeah I was aware we used data analysis for Gab, but I hadnt heard anything about Mahrez being signed using the same method.
    Interested to know how many clubs are using the system and what players have been signed on the strength of it. I’m a little sceptical, but know very little about it.

  102. shad

    @El Salvidor,

    Many attacking midfielders? Remember that we are releasing Arteta and Rosa. Wilshere is a perma-crock and Ramsey is a mixed bag. Campbell has only just been trusted but isn’t at Isco level. Plus Isco would easily deputize for a knackered Özil. Cazorla too but he has been shifted to DM. Just my wishlist anyway.
    Many people here clamouring for Wanyama but as a fellow Kenyan who has followed him domestically and his international apps, he isn’t all that he is made to be. He can boss games as he did us but for me he doesn’t do it consistently enough and his technical ability (clean tackling, ball recycling, passing range) which are all key to our style, in him are suspect. Nonetheless he is strong as an Ox and when the stars align he can be Makelele. His ceiling is definitely higher than his brother Mariga, who retired into oblivion after numerous injuries. The upside is he is defo an upgrade on FlamTeta

  103. daz

    RS

    Yeah not sure if Leicester have been using it, ours is a tailored version due to that company we purchased everyone else uses the generic ones apparently

  104. JJ

    True – Ox, Gabriel and chambers all did well BUT Gibbs is just awful. His refusal to use his right foot for the most simplest of passes makes him sooo frustrating to watch…. And how many farking back passes can you play in a game. Drives me mental.

    Other than that – Good win boys!

  105. Sam

    Pato still following Arsenal on twitter, he’s also following Santos
    At £12M it will be foolish to ignore. Just like Elneny he’s eligible for Champions League

  106. Sam

    We could face Barca like this

    Sanchez——–Walcott ——-Pato

    coquelin ——–Ozil———Elneny

    Monreal—— Koscielny——Gabriel ——Bellerin

    Cech

  107. N5

    So it turns out Ozil is quite good! do you remember when that little “oh everyone’s obsessed with me” melt Steve used to comment daily with remarks like Erikson > Ozil.

    What a Chav supporting bellend.

  108. Romford Ozil Pele

    Maybe I was a bit harsh on Theo earlier but I still feel my point stands. The lad has exceptional off the ball movement, it’s probably his best trait along with his speed but like Wright says; he’s just a bit too timid: at 26 he should have a few different array of finishes within his Arsenal. With what he’s earning he needs to be producing every week. Same with L’Oreal, Shearer said that you should be hitting at least 25 in the PL playing in front of MÖ. Considering we’re he most creative side in the league we’re not a very clinical one. And goal difference might be a key issue. Yesterday was a good win and nice to bounce back but when we have opportunities to dish out a spanking we need to make it count.

  109. Wallace

    Giroud’s got 15 goals in 24 games (PL & CL) thus far. would think he’ll be round about the 25 mark in the PL this season. would probably have done it last if he hadn’t missed 3mths.