They tried to make Wenger go to the transfer market, he said no, no, nooooo!

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Oh Arsene Wenger, I do love you. You’re like a well drilled machine.

I said a month ago that Wenger would renege on his transfer policy the further we head into December. I think I said by the 12th we’d get some U-turn love.

Well, I think it’s begun.

“We will see what is there. We have a whole December to go first”

On Wanyama.

‘I rate the player, but we are not on the case,”

On Benzema.

“We just said that Olivier Giroud is a great striker, so behind that we cannot buy Karim Benzema!’

“If you look at his [Giroud’s] record, I believe he has special qualities that are difficult to find.

“After, of course you want him to be efficient as well. Where he has improved a lot is his link play with the other players, and that’s very important in our team.”

We’ll get to January, Jack might be back… then we’ll have an internal solution, meshed in with Callum, which means when Coq comes back we’ll have far too many DMs and we’ll need to sell.

Maybe we won’t buy. Maybe Wenger is right.

I think Wenger might look to add to the front line in January. I think he needs to add some more pace into the mix and he needs to add a bit of experience. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that this current Arsenal forward line is the least exciting in Wenger’s 20 odd years. Sanchez is the only player who really excites. Outside that, we have good, but we don’t have ‘blow it out the park’ great like we’ve had previously.

Even an Adebayor like player would be nice (good Adebayor). Maybe someone a bit more mobile.

Is there a young Di Natale out there please? I mean, there was a Draxler around in the summer, he’d have been nice. Who else has pace and dreamy skillz?

I don’t know.

We have a game agasint Villa on Sunday. I want to call it tough, but this Villa team is one of the worst groups of bottlers in the league. Which makes them dangerous. It’s games like these that we need to get super focused for. As Theo said after the Champions League game, sometimes we don’t give enough respect to the opposition. We have to focus on every game if we want to succeed and achieve the ultimate goal this season.

Right, that’s me gone. Have a great Friday night!

 

260 Responses to “They tried to make Wenger go to the transfer market, he said no, no, nooooo!”

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  1. Zacharse

    One thing I personally love about Wenger is the relationship I have with him in my head. It’s like…. the other managers come and go but Arsene just wont give up no matter how imperfect he knows it all is. Each time it comes back around, the good and the bad, at least it;s the same guy there. No slick ass brenda rogers or psycho van gaal or whoever. Klopp however would be a pretty nice guy to come after but look at what happened to him at Dortmund. 7 yrs a good long run but nothing to Wengy
    There’s truly only one. Here’s to us winning the League

  2. Wallace

    Russian newspapers reporting we’ve agreed a deal for Aleksandr Kokorin, although unclear as to whether it’s for January or the summer. I like the look of him – intelligent target man, not the biggest, but mobile, and good awareness of his teammates. if the reports are true would imagine it’s bad news for Welbeck, at centre forward anyway.

  3. underrated Coq

    Did Wenger really make these statements?

    “Don’t forget, Giroud only cost 12 million euros.”

    “I hope it helped his confidence that we did not go out and spend £50m on a striker, although he is at a big club and you have to accept being questioned, but he can live with that.”

    “I heard someone say that if he was on the market tomorrow, he would find anywhere – which shows the kind of striker he is. You do not find a lot of them.”

    Asked if Giroud belonged among Europe’s elite strikers, including Robert Lewandowski, Luis Suarez and Sergio Aguero, Wenger replied: “Of course – and Theo Walcott as well.”

    This has to be up there with ‘We have two WC keepers in Szczesny and Ospina’. Pathetic stuff. I mean, these comments make it clear that Wenger thinks more like a father-figure than a manager.

  4. Pierre

    Cesc

    How about resting cech, kos, Bellerin, Ramsey, ozil, giroud, Walcott. We don’t want them getting injured do we !!!

  5. Samesong

    This has to be up there with ‘We have two WC keepers in Szczesny and Ospina’. Pathetic stuff. I mean, these comments make it clear that Wenger thinks more like a father-figure than a manager.

    I would expect any manager to be bias towards their own players. But we the fans know that’s BS.

    I ask this question though would Giroud get into Man United, Man City
    Chelsea and Liverpool? I personally think he would.

  6. grooveydaddy

    I don’t think he gets into the first XI of any of those teams.

    maybe Chelsea this year because Costa has been awful…

  7. Wallace

    Samesong

    “I ask this question though would Giroud get into Man United, Man City
    Chelsea and Liverpool?”

    i think he definitely plays a lot in this current Utd side. would think he’d be a far more effective deputy for Aguero at City than Bony. he’s definitely more of a threat than Costa currently, although at his best Costa’s the better player. not sure about Liverpool. Benteke’s struggling to make an impact, but they have been doing well with the Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana strikeforce.

  8. Samesong

    As much as I loathe Giroud if he continues scoring goals, and important ones. I will not criticise him so much. But currently I agree with you Wallace.

  9. underrated Coq

    ” I ask this question though would Giroud get into Man United, Man City
    Chelsea and Liverpool? I personally think he would. ”

    He gets into all those teams ( Aguero is injured ) but that wasn’t the question put to Wenger, was it? He thinks Giroud is an elite-level striker, which is the problem. Probably the mentality which has held-us back from actually signing an upgrade.

  10. Wallace

    underrated Coq

    “but that wasn’t the question put to Wenger, was it? He thinks Giroud is an elite-level striker, which is the problem.”

    George Weah, Nicolas Anelka, Thierry Henry, Emmanuel Adebayor, Robin van Persie….Wenger knows, if anyone knows, what an elite level striker looks like. i’m sure he’s very aware Giroud’s not at that level, but is happy with what he does bring to the side.

  11. boy dio

    fucking sweeet not being moderated

    @ samesong, on current form giroud gets into any team in the bpl, he is not getting into the big clubs around europe though and it’s that sort of striker we haven’t had since rvp
    he does not get into that city team, would be third choice there imo

  12. Cesc Appeal

    Underrated

    Always say, Wenger idealises his players, Walcott now belongs in the ‘elite’ level of ST’s does he? What after like 8 games there and 10 years of you not wanting to play him there…

    Wenger often spouts a load of total shit.

    Giroud is an average to decent sort of ST, Walcott isn’t an ST, its just with Sanchez he allows us a very fluid front line of pace and directness…makes you wonder how good we’d have been with an actual ST up there with similar attributes.

    I get that Wenger can’t exactly slate his own players, but because of his trend of dithering in transfer markets you do worry he will convince himself we’re good enough as is.

    If he lets this January window go by then he’s a moron, but then I said that in the summer and he did nothing.

  13. underrated Coq

    ” but is happy with what he does bring to the side ”

    Which is the problem in itself and maybe explains why Wenger has won very little since the days of Henry. What is it exactly that Giroud ‘brings to the side’? He took his chances really well against Olympiakos but I think so many are getting carried away with that one performance.

    Have we forgotten how uninspiring and ineffective he’s been over the last one-two months? Or how our combined attacking play seems to come down a level with Giroud as focal-point ?

  14. gonsterous

    I’d say if it was any other manager commenting on not buying in the January window would be so that other teams don’t over price their players but since it’s Wenger, I think he’s telling the truth and really won’t buy anyone..

  15. Cesc Appeal

    ‘Have we forgotten how uninspiring and ineffective he’s been over the last one-two months? Or how our combined attacking play seems to come down a level with Giroud as focal-point?’

    It’s a good point, Giroud on form is equals a good ST, our of form he’s decent with bouts where he’s extremely poor and limits us terribly.

    Arsenal fans on the whole are very formy, poll on the Mirror site had 58% of people saying Giroud was ‘one of the worlds best ST’s’ after that Olympiacos game.

    What do you think that number would have been after Spurs, or Sunderland, or Norwich?

    Same with Wenger, doing badly all the pro-Wenger people (most) run off and hide, yet when we’re doing well suddenly they are all back and all the polls and different things point to him having overwhelming support where a couple of weeks prior that wasn’t the case.

    Just think its a rather obvious statement, we need a better ST, you can be ‘happy enough’ with what Giroud brings, but unfortunately Arsenal FC’s motto for the last decade has been ‘happy enough.’ Need to break out of that.

    If we decided to sell Giroud, I doubt very much we’d have ‘elite’ clubs tripping over themselves to thrust a contract under his nose.

  16. underrated Coq

    CA, I found that whole ” I heard someone say . . . ” statement so weak and lame. Why bring up an anonymous ‘somebody’ to back yourself, how about the words of Thierry Henry? arguably the best player to play under him. But I bet he hasn’t heard of Henry’s comments re Giroud.

  17. Wallace

    underrated Coq

    ” What is it exactly that Giroud ‘brings to the side’?”

    some much needed muscle in what is otherwise a very small side. 13 goals already this season, and 71 goals in 120 starts during his time at Arsenal. people highlight his lack of chemistry with Alexis, but no one mentions that he seems to have a very good understanding with Ramsey, one that’s becoming more and more apparent now that Ramsey’s back in the centre. he doesn’t make my best Arsenal eleven when everyone’s fit, but he’s a very valuable player.

  18. Cesc Appeal

    Underrated

    This is what always worries me though then when he says ‘if we find quality to improve what we have, we will buy.’ If Wenger genuinely believes that his striker is up there as the best in the EPL, one of the best in Europe then we’ve no chance.

    During the summer there were a fair few ST’s better that we could have grabbed, not even WC but just better, who offer more.

    I don’t understand this thing of, make do with what we have and try to eek out the maximum from our squad of 18.

    Why? You’ve got £80 Million, spend it. I don’t understand Wenger a lot of the time. I’m not advocating spending for spendings sake, but when you have a 25 man squad whittled down to 18 because of sick notes, one ST in your line up who is ‘decent,’ one CDM…that wouldn’t be spending for spendings sake.

  19. Wallace

    Theo & Alexis interchanging up top and then Giroud for the last 20mins. last season’s FA Cup final was the blueprint for this season.

  20. boy dio

    the real problem with giroud is that he will always have decent stats.
    stats that backup those that want him to stay in the team and backup arsene wenger holding onto him.
    also has an impressive highlight reel.
    what’s grating is the sitters he misses and the nagging thought that a better striker would have better stats with the likes of ozil, ramsey, cazorla and sanchez behind him.
    for the record i don’t want oli in the squad at all, just can’t see him leaving any time soon even with the emergence of walcott arguably doing the job better

  21. steve

    “Asked if Giroud belonged among Europe’s elite strikers, including Robert Lewandowski, Luis Suarez and Sergio Aguero, Wenger replied: “Of course – and Theo Walcott as well.”

    Haha Wenger really is mentally ill.

  22. underrated Coq

    “some much needed muscle in what is otherwise a very small side ”

    Think this is less of an issue. Atleast not since the likes of Coquelin, Alexis were introduced in the side. Small in stature they may be, weak in strength they are not. Lets be frank, for all of Giroud’s build, he is pretty average at using his upper body strength.

    Why do we force ourselves to choose between two players, both of whom have limitations? We should be looking to bring in someone who is both strong and has a bit of pace and flair.

    ” people highlight his lack of chemistry with Alexis, but no one mentions that he seems to have a very good understanding with Ramsey ”

    Yeah, always enjoy the Ramsey-Ozil-Giroud combinations, but tbf Ramsey and Ozil are intelligent players who would look good with most players. Ozil and Sanchez, in particular would look even better with a more pacier forward. Shouldn’t webe looking to get the most out of our best players? Why limit them?

  23. shad

    I won’t believe any report on a player signing the dotted line until it’s either on the official Arsenal website or Ornstein confirms it. Not after the last minute debacles we’ve had of Sahin, Higuain, etc

  24. Wallace

    underrated Coq

    “Ozil and Sanchez, in particular would look even better with a more pacier forward. Shouldn’t webe looking to get the most out of our best players?”

    who’s pacier than Walcott?

    they have to be on the pitch together more in the future, but when we’ve had Ozil/Alexis/Walcott playing together this season we’ve looked the best team in the league, and Ozil’s goal against Man Utd is easily the season’s best so far, for me anyway.

  25. Dissenter

    For all the insults Giroud gets, I would rather have him on my team than Walcott.

    Giroud is more injury free and offers a lot more options that Walcott.
    That’s not to say he’s world class.

    Wenger was just infusing him with confidence before bringing someone else in next month. He said the same of Ospina and Sczezny after he brought in Cech.

  26. Bamford10

    Comments like that prove that Wenger cannot and should not be taken seriously. Giroud is not an “elite” striker. Not even close. He isn’t even a second-tier striker. He’s a third-tier striker who occasionally plays like a second-tier one.

  27. Bamford10

    Wallace

    “who’s pacier than Walcott?”

    Almost no one, but he’s not a genuine CF, unfortunately. The point being made was that we’d be better with a genuine CF who has pace.

    (We’ve only been making that point here for three years now.)

  28. WengerEagle

    “who’s pacier than Walcott?”

    Aubameyang to be fair.

    He’s basically a much taller and more powerful version of Walcott from the sounds of it, his goal record this season in particular proves that he’s also a much superior finisher.

  29. Wallace

    WengerEagle

    I think Aubameyang’s more willowy than powerful. certainly couldn’t imagine him physically dominating any of the CBs in the PL.

  30. underrated Coq

    I would go for a classic 4-4-2 this weekend. The football hipstas may scoff but imo the current personnel we have ( barring Ozil who I would rest ) are ideally suited to play that formation. Something like

    —————————Cech—————————–
    Bell————Mert————Gabs————Mon
    JC————Rambo———Flamster———-Oxo
    ——————-Theo—–Giroud———————-

    Proper wingers, fairly solid midfield and a good looking attack. Lets face it, even if Theo starts wide in a front-three, he spends most time playing just off Giroud. Might as well start him there, as second striker.

    I would rest Kos and if things are going well, take off Rambo early in the second half, move Oxo to the centre and bring on Gibbs. Might think of taking off Giroud and JC too- both have played a lot recently. Oxo has to get 90 minutes though, about time he is pushed to start delivering the goods.

  31. Cesc Appeal

    Aubameyang would have transformed our attack, 3 more goals than Lewandowski in Bundesliga on 17 already.

    6ft 2, strong, pacey, good in the air, hard worker.

    Some people will just rubbish whoever you forward aside from a totally unattainable player and just say ‘they aren’t that much better than what we already have.’

    Championing Walcott’s effect and then saying I doubt Aubameyang would do better is frankly absurd. Much, much better player. Not even kind of close.

    Aubameyang has actually done what Walcott has already threatened to do for years, of from wide to ST, Aubameyang has done it and made it stick, arguably one of the best ST’s in Europe now.

    The difference being his frame, work rate, consistency and technical ability. If he is available at £42 Million in January, I’d pay it in a second, would take our attack to the next level.

  32. Rambo Ramsey

    CA, away from home we have tended to play deeper, keep it tighter and mainly play on the counter. So I don’t think Mert is that much of a liability.

    Its in the home games where we usually push play up to near the halfway line that I hate watching Mert struggle.

  33. Bamford10

    Wallace

    Neither Walcott nor Giroud would start over Sturridge — who is much a better CF than both of them — so that Benteke is second-choice to him means nothing in relation to our two options.

    As for why he’s not excelling there at moment, their system and style of play suits a quicker player who is even better in combination. Hence the false nine approach.

    Giroud wouldn’t start there either. Walcott might, though he’s not as skillful as their false nines, but never if Sturridge were available.

    Benteke may only be marginally better than our two options, but he is better and he would’ve improved us. Aubamayeng the same.

  34. Wallace

    Cesc Appeal

    “Championing Walcott’s effect and then saying I doubt Aubameyang would do better is frankly absurd. Much, much better player. Not even kind of close.”

    your opinion.

    it’s only the last 12mths that Aubameyang has looked very good. until then he was a very fast, inconsistent winger with dodgy technique. sound familiar? you can’t write off Walcott and then praise Aubameyang to the skies. for my money all that separates them is Walcott’s ACL injury and the year he lost to it.

  35. Cesc Appeal

    Rambo

    Sunderland, Norwich and Olympiacos got a lot of space in the middle, now we’ve lost Coq teams seems to get a lot more time and space in our middle.

    If we’re resting Ozil, and we should, even though he doesn’t do much defensively, that is still a body and a possession player gone. Bellerin also leaves the right flank exposed, and if Walcott is at RM Mert will be pretty much exposed from the front and the side then.

    If we keep it tight, fine, but are we going to keep it tight?

  36. Romford Ozil Pele

    L’Oreal is a better baller than Theo, tends to bring out the best in Ramsey when he’s playing from the middle as he can run behind. But generally we look so much more menacing when Alexis and Özil play off Theo. What we did to United I’m October I’m 20 mins was pretty much pure destruction.

  37. Cesc Appeal

    Wallace

    ‘it’s only the last 12mths that Aubameyang has looked very good. until then he was a very fast, inconsistent winger with dodgy technique. sound familiar? you can’t write off Walcott and then praise Aubameyang to the skies. for my money all that separates them is Walcott’s ACL injury and the year he lost to it.’

    Your opinion. Just like it was your opinion all summer long that no one was worth buying, no one was ‘that much’ better than what we already had.

    Aubameyang has 22 goals this season, Walcott has 6.

    In total, from 2009 to 2015 including international goals Walcott scored 54 goals, Aubameyang 96…yeah not that much difference is there? 42 goals but who’s counting really…

    Walcott has gone above 10 EPL goals once, Aubameyang 5 times. Again, who’s counting.

    That ACL though, that’s the difference.

  38. Bamford10

    Underrated

    So you’re resting Ozil. I’d rest Monreal and Bellerin as well, per RayGooner. Run this 4-4-2:

    _________Cech
    Debu_Mert_Kosc_Gibbs
    _________Flam
    Joel_____Ramsey_____Ox
    ______Theo__Giroud

    And you make a good point re how Walcott plays in the front three. He doesn’t really play wide; instead he tucks in and plays off Giroud.

  39. Cesc Appeal

    Underrated

    Oh sorry, I saw Mert and just assumed Kozz would be in there, yeah if you want to rest Kozz then we’d have to…would mean though Flamini and Ramsey would have to sit deeper which is a bit problematic then in terms of creating without Ozil. That’s why I think we should go with a classic counter game.

    Rambo

    If we’re deep, under pressure (this is Villa, unless we allow it it shouldn’t happen they are gash) then Mert is fine, if it’s more open and flowing, which I think it may be, then Mert may get exposed. And it is actually painful to see him run.

  40. Relieable sauce

    UC in the zone!

    Walcott is a good supplementary striker – When he is not injured, and Giroud is a good “plan b” CF – When he’s in form and not sulking.
    Neither are good enough to be playing AFCs #1 striker but they’ve both just been given improved contracts!! to suggest we couldnt/cant improve our forward options is ridiculous. Wenger just cant make the tough decisions that an ambitious club needs to take, but is under no pressure to change because neither the owner and a significant number of fans dont have any ambition.

  41. london gunner

    “Cesc AppealDecember 12, 2015 13:21:34”

    Now this is superb comment tbh.

    Someone actually using stats and the clear cut facts they represent to successfully argue a point.

    Can’t disagree with this comment! At all.
    Abama is clearly better than Walcott.

    Lets have more of this logical style arguing then wishy washy hipster statements.

  42. Cesc Appeal

    London

    Thank you very much 😉

    Would love Aubameyang at Arsenal, front line with Sanchez, Ozil providing service, certain games (like tomorrow even) Walcott on the other flank…mercy.

  43. Rambo Ramsey

    Ca, you are right about the possibility of the Villa game being open. Gabriel-Koscielny should be the way to go. Fascinated to see how Wenger’s protégé sets up and goes about this one.

  44. WengerEagle

    Wallace

    He’s no Drogba for sure and I wouldn’t even call him a physical bully but he’s strong enough to hold off BPL defenders.

    Giroud for his size and build should be much more imposing physically and Wally is just a bit of a non-entity strength-wise.

  45. Cesc Appeal

    Rambo

    Garde adds an interesting element for sure. Only thing with Gabriel, I like him, but he’s been very mistake prone in last few appearances. We cannot afford to give Villa anything to desperately cling to.

  46. Jay

    Watching ozil and alexis, Have to say, as proclaimed as alexis is as a dribbler, I think ozil is actually better than he is in that department. He doesn’t lose the ball often when dribbling and most importantly never runs into blind alleys like alexis. Alexis has become a player who is more about efficency rather than flair. Wonder what happened there because when you watch his performances at the 2010 world cup he was a phenomenonal dribbler with bags of flair but little end product. It’s just a shame he had to sacrifice a bit of his flair in order to be the player he is today. If he could have done both at a high level he would have been something else.

  47. WengerEagle

    As nice as it looks on paper, Wally-Sanchez-Abameyang would be pretty ineffective against sides that sit deep and force us to break them down.

    I doubt anyone barring Barcelona or Bayern Munich, who have much superior quality, would be silly enough to employ a high defensive line against that trio.

    You’d simply leave Walcott out as Sanchez and Auba are better.

    Have a playmaker on one side to link up with Ozil.

    Gotze or Isco would be perfect IMO.

  48. Romford Ozil Pele

    Eagle, cheers mate. It should do. Whyte has more experience and can arguably hit just as hard as AJ. The subplot to this fight is fantastic and I think they’ve built it up well though feel sorry for the people who have to pay to watch on PPV, not worth it. I’m sure Whyte will come at him but I was watching an interview with AJ’s sparring partner and he was saying that the thing with AJ is that he’s crazy quick for a heavyweight. He apparently runs the 100m in 11seconds which is ridiculous for someone 6ft6 and over 17.5st. His conditioning is crazy too. The way he was towering over David Haye yesterday for example was staggering. I’m gonna go AJ in 5 because I feel his speed will be too much but you never know with heavyweights, if Whyte lands one it’ll be interesting to see how AJ takes it.

    I’m clocking up the miles this weekend as I have an early start tomorrow to make it to Birmingham in time for our game

  49. Rambo Ramsey

    CA, to be fair to the lad, it was only in his last game he made a mistake. The circumstances were a bit ott too as I remember him having to suddenly come on to replace Koscielny. Maybe he wasn’t sharp/prepared. Probably making excuses but we shall see. He has looked good in other matches. the one thing I have an issue with is how the manager doesn’t fully utilise his squad. Gabriel should play more, so should have Debuchy. Maybe if he had, he wouldn’t have lost all confidence.

  50. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    Yeah, would only work in certain games, where we sit deep and look to counter.

    Now, Sanchez, Aubameyang and a wide playmaker…that would be a great front line.

  51. Cesc Appeal

    Rambo

    I like Gabriel, have championed him being out starting CB, so I hope so.

    Debuchy can do one, not time for a sulky little shit.

  52. Wallace

    Cesc Appeal

    that’s 93 goals in 224 games at club level for Aubameyang(since 2009).

    and 66 goals in 212(142 starts)games for Walcott.

    if you went mins per goal I don’t think there’d be much difference, even taking into account Aubameyang’s last 12mths.

  53. Cesc Appeal

    Wallace

    But then you are rewriting the injury history of one of the most injury prone players in the EPL! You can’t do that.

    So there’s another factor, Aubameyang is far more reliable.

    Just give up on this one, its gone.

    What is your constant need to try to elevate Arsenal players and just defend them the whole time, ‘I’m not, I just get bored of hearing everyone slate Arsenal players,’ slating them by saying there are other players in the world better than them? If you’re not saying an Arsenal player is great or as good as anyone else you’re slating them.

    Its okay to say there are players better than what we have, and do you know what, its even okay to sometimes say Wenger should have done more in a market, or got something wrong…let you in on a secret, it doesn’t mean you hate Arsenal or Arsene Wenger.

    Believe me, you can say Aubameyang is better than Walcott and I won’t think you don’t like Walcott, you can eve say Wenger should have signed him, and I won’t doubt for a second your unwavering love for Arsene.

  54. WengerEagle

    Have to say, the more I see of Ross Barkley, the more I like him.

    Reminds me of a young Rooney in the way he can just brush experienced defenders aside with ease, so much power and pace to go with it. Has added end product to his game this season too.

    Also shares Rooney’s Scouse accent and struggle with the English language. 🙂

    Barkley and Sterling are England’s two brightest young talents for sure.

  55. Wallace

    london gunner

    what’s with this ‘hipster’ stuff all the time?

    hipsters generally are people with a shedload of knowledge in their, admittedly narrow, field of interest/study.

  56. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    Yeah, was never really sold on Barkley, but he’s certainly adding a lot of constancy to his game and shouldering responsibility for his team.

    Interesting to see what happens with him, always say him as a future United player, following that Rooney road.

  57. Cesc Appeal

    Kokorin at £6 Million is the rumour, his contract is up in the summer so Wenger can get a cut price deal in January.

    That is a Wenger signing, no one has heard of him, cut price bargain.

  58. WengerEagle

    Romford

    Bang on, I don’t really understand the point of buying a Sky subscription if you still have to shell out for PPV events like this and the Fury fights. I love my boxing but I’ll just watch it on stream for free.

    Yeah as most feel it’s AJ’s first proper test. Unlike Cornish who was visibly bricking it when face to face with Joshua, you get the feeling that Whyte genuinely believes that he’ll stop AJ. The fact that he has already beaten him albeit as an amateur makes it an interesting fight and as much as he’s hated, Eddie Hearn has done a top job selling this fight.

    Funnily enough I read about the 100m story today, pretty astonishing for a man of his size. I hope that Whyte can land a shot on his previously untouched chin just to get a real sense of whether he can take punishment from a man of similar power. He has all the tools in his locker to be one of Britain’s greatest ever Heavyweight Champion’s but we have yet to see him proving professionally (through no fault of his own haha) that he can go the distance or even past 3 rounds!

    Having said all of that, my money is on an AJ KO within 4 rounds.

    You’re going to the match tomorrow too? Nice one.

  59. Wallace

    Cesc Appeal

    “But then you are rewriting the injury history of one of the most injury prone players in the EPL! You can’t do that. So there’s another factor, Aubameyang is far more reliable.”

    what am i rewriting? i was actually surprised that Walcott has played almost as many games as Aubameyang in that period 2009-15. sure, he’s spent more time on the bench, but he’s been at Arsenal that whole time. with all respect to St Etienne they probably don’t possess the same calibre of player.

    I just think there are so many obvious parallels between the two that to praise one while trashing the other makes no sense.

  60. underrated Coq

    ” I just think there are so many obvious parallels between the two that to praise one while trashing the other makes no sense. ”

    But who trashed Theo?

    What was pointed out was Aubameyang has had a far more impressive season then Theo and as such, he would have improved us massively. Maybe to the degree that determines whether we win the title or not.

  61. Cesc Appeal

    Wallace

    See, there you go, trashing…who is trashing. You’re so black and white its painful, if you’re not endlessly praising, you’re trashing.

    Statistically Aubameyang is better, Walcott has had far longer spells out injured, Aubameyang shifted from wing to ST and made it stick, even out wide, his stats are better than Walcott.

    Oh there I go, trashing Walcott pointing out another player is better.

    Walcott is alright, has his uses, massive sick note, in the same way Giroud is alright, has his uses, very limited…if you think that is trashing you need to grow up a bit. Being an Arsenal fan doesn’t mean endlessly promoting Arsenal players and defending the manager.

  62. Wallace

    underrated Coq

    “But who trashed Theo?”

    with a straight face?

    also, it’s December 12th. Theo’s just back from 5 weeks out. the time he has spent on the pitch this season he’s looked very dangerous. he stays fit – and yes, that’s a big if – i’m confident he’ll score a lot of goals for us this season(provided Ozil all stays relatively injury free).

  63. Goldinho

    Does it wind anyone else up that Cameron jerome and Steven fletcher earn a living as premier league forwards,or is it just me?

  64. underrated Coq

    ” with a straight face? ”

    Eh? I can only remember trashing Giroud today 😉

    I don’t know why you are fighting this battle though. Even London Gunner straight-up accepted Aubameyang has been better than Walcott. Lol

  65. Wallace

    Cesc Appeal

    “See, there you go, trashing…who is trashing.”

    sorry, but I think you’ve rubbished every Arsenal player at least once in the last 12mths. you’re not exactly circumspect with your opinions.

    “Aubameyang shifted from wing to ST and made it stick,”

    and this is my point, he finally got his chance up top last season after Ramos and Immobile tanked and he took it. and he’s had the good fortune to play alongside one of the country’s best players in Reus. isn’t Theo taking the same route but 12mths later? and aren’t a fair few people excited about what he might do on the same pitch as Ozil?

  66. Cesc Appeal

    Wallace

    You’re just one track, everyone on here trashes Arsenal players because they want better, highlight deferences, stablish they are injury prone, highlight a poor performance, refuse to accept performances that are 5 years old as evidence of ability.

    I like how you always neatly avoid points as well, now its about Walcott getting a chance at ST, then he will be every bit as good as Aubameyang will he? Oh sorry, provided he stays fit (never has) and provided Ozil stays fit ans services him.

    Hilarious, because you utterly just wrecked your point, so Walcott’s appalling fitness will hold him back and then he needs a WC CAM to provide for him, again, take you back to Aubameyang having scored 5 times into double figures for a league season to Walcott’s one, some of those at St Etienne where in the same 10 years Walcott has enjoyed service from some of the worlds best CAM’s, playing with some of the worlds best ST’s and wide players.

    The fact you are even still trying here just highlights the massive agenda you have, the fact you try to undermine everyone else’s opinion makes you even more annoying. You truly believe you are some objective bastion on this blog, and everyone else is an Arsenal hating cretin who just trashes our player and manager.

  67. London gunner

    Giroud=dzeko=mando

    Dzeko played for city as a second striker and plays 1st striker for a very good Roma.

    Mando played second for Bayern and juventus

    Let’s be honest giroud is a very good striker.

    One of the top strikers in the league. Though it has to be said their is not a wealth of elite strikers in the premier league

  68. Wallace

    Cesc Appeal

    “I like how you always neatly avoid points as well, now its about Walcott getting a chance at ST, then he will be every bit as good as Aubameyang will he?”

    was Aubameyang scoring a goal a game when he was out wide?

    “Hilarious, because you utterly just wrecked your point, so Walcott’s appalling fitness will hold him back and then he needs a WC CAM to provide for him, again, take you back to Aubameyang having scored 5 times into double figures for a league season to Walcott’s one, some of those at St Etienne where in the same 10 years Walcott has enjoyed service from some of the worlds best CAM’s, playing with some of the worlds best ST’s and wide players.”

    it’s only the last 12mths where his scoring rate has become impressive. and are you saying Reus isn’t a big factor in Aubameyang’s rise?

  69. Bamford10

    London

    Giroud is not “a very good striker”. He can’t beat defenders off the dribble, can’t create his own chances and can’t make diagonal runs in behind back fours. He provides hold-up play and finishing in the box. That is all.

    He’s a decent striker and no more. And Harry Kane is above him on that list.

  70. Samesong

    Aguero
    Sturiddge
    Lukuka
    Giroud
    Kane

    Fair point. I think that Ighalo is having a good season 9 goals so far. He’s impressed me with his link up play and he has everything.

  71. Bamford10

    Wallace

    Why is it so difficult for you to admit that Aubamayeng is a better CF than Walcott? He is. He has just as much pace/athleticism, but has more scoring and more genuine CF play.

    Even London, who has always defended Walcott, has no issues with this.

  72. Cesc Appeal

    Wallace

    I gave you the stats, you crack on, unless we’re talking about Messi or Ronaldo or something we will assume you think the Arsenal player is just as good if not better, just needs some luck.

    And Reus? What the player you wouldn’t want because of how injury prone he is, that guy, the one who made 18 appearances for BvB last season almost half the number Aubameyang did and still notched 16 without him? Reus has missed 4 out of 15 league games this season as well and Aubameyang has still got to 17 already.

    Yeah they love playing together, but you are stretching, not to mention the 16 and 19 goals respectively in separate seasons Aubameyang notched for St Eitenne, who was the WC provided there?

  73. London gunner

    Bamford

    He isn’t a very good striker when comparing him to elite strikers like Neymar lewandowski

    But compared to the standard of allthe premier league’s strikers he is very good.

  74. Cesc Appeal

    Yeah, I’d say you have the elite level ST’s, then one step down, that’s about where Aubameyang is, still a quality player.

  75. Samesong

    I’m suprised noone has debated my Ighalo comment maybe he’s got some qualities about him. 26 years old third highest goal scorer in premier league so far in his first season.

  76. S Asoa

    Giroud with ONLY 1 in out of 5 crosses is pathetic class even if it wins matches.
    OUr great Imbecile is pathetic class , with due respect to Giroud for meeting his 12 million Euros class.

  77. Dissenter

    I’ve always wondered why Giroud gets so much abuse when Walcott (to a smaller extent, Welbeck) get the benefit of doubt.

    Last season when I raised the point, the retort was Giroud is the starting striker so he gets most of the blame.
    Now the table is turned, He’s not first choice. Why is he still getting so much abuse here?

    When Walcott has a shitty game, the usual posers still say “He helps other play better” . When Wlebeck used to have crappy games, you’ll still read here that he’s full of running.

  78. Dissenter

    Considering the paucity of elite strikers globally, one can say with certainty thaGiroud is an Arsenal class striker.
    He’s good enough for our bench for most games and to start a few depending on the tactical approach. That says a lot.

    The problem is the alternatives for CF aren’t very good (including Walcott, who’s a daisy) so Giroud gets overplayed and gets all the blame.
    He’s paying the price for staying too fit. Walcott won’t have come back from twisting his ankle like Giroud did against Olympiakos, we all know this, don’t we?