3 Arsenal injury excuses that have to die | The plan moving forward

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F*CK

F*CK

The day after and I feel raw. I feel raw like a Sanchez hamstring injury. I feel tense like a Koscielny hip tweak.

I could go on like this.

So, let’s start today by tackling a few of the disobedient defenses that have come my way since yesterday.

WE COULDN’T ROTATE VS NORWICH

There seems to be a popular notion amongst some fans that you simply can’t rest your best players. Like, somehow they are undroppable because our squad is incapable without them.

I totally disagree. Here are the facts, you can’t play all the games. Sure, Chelsea butchered their squad last season. Jose had an interesting strategy, which seemed to be… blow the league away in the first half with your best 11, pray in the second half. Chelsea did a great job. They rested players during breaks and they were very lucky with player breakdowns. However, they dropped out of the Champions League and their form dipped dramatically in the second half of the year. Then this season, Mourinho is on record as saying that approach has had consequences for fitness and form this year.

Hazard has the same goals tally as Sanogo this term, Cesc has been shocking, Matic and embarrassment, Diego Costa has gone from the new Drogba to bench warmer… it’s sad times there.

You pay for what you do to your players in the end.

Anyway, the focus is on Arsenal here. Arsene has a squad. It costs £200m to service. So he believes in it. Therefore, he should utlise it. Joel Campbell had a great game in the week. He is capable of playing against Norwich. The same for The Ox. He can easily deputise. Both are Champions League players, both are internationals, both have a degree of pedigree.

If they don’t, why are they in our squad?

… and look. If we couldn’t rotate against a newly promoted team that had lost 5 of 6, what do you think is going to happen now we don’t have those players? What, field a 10 man team?

You rotate because you have the long-term in mind.

United, throughout Fergie’s tenure were the masters of rotation in the first half of the season… so they’d have the freshest players in the second half. Ferguson was the master of psychology. Teams that had the fear, he’d roll out a weak team, because he’d have them beaten mentally. Then in the run in, his players were fitter, faster and more hungry than the rest.

Wenger should do that. You preserve the bodies, you keep competition in the players legs and you keep minds sharp.

If we’d rotated and drew, people would still moan

Yeah, sure we’d still moan. Our second 11 should be beating Norwich. Look at the caliber of players we have in comparison. Look at the resource and training facilities we have on hand. We should be trashing them. Back in the day, our Carling Cup team would be tanking teams like Norwich.

Fact is, we played a  first team and still DIDN’T win. So now we’re moaning about a shit result and a broken side.

But here’s the thing… I am ALWAYS more concerned about having fit players. The result is important, but sometimes things don’t go your way (WBA). Yesterday, things didn’t go our way because we picked up injuries. The breakdowns caused the result. Give me a loss yesterday, but a fresh Santi, Kos and Sanchez and I’ll be fine. Because we are always better with those players. We have a chance with those guys. Now they’re gone because we were stupid. Now we have less of a chance.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Don’t even play that card. I’ve been talking about fitness for 6 years, you’ve been talking about fitness with me… we all saw this one coming a month ago.

Foresight is what we have. Why hasn’t our manager?

This situation

I can’t leave you with a hellish post, so we need to draw on the positives. But, we’ll assess the badness first. Cazorla and Sanchez will both miss Olympiacos and more. So we have the ever regressing Mertesacker and the shaky looking Gabriel in the backline… and I guess we’ll be relying on Joel Campbell on the right along with Ramsey in the middle.

Worry there is on Aaron. He’s not being eased in, which could spell trouble.

Anyway, Theo will be on the bench for that game pending a disaster. We’ll also have Chambo in, who, after an overly harsh critique from me yesterday, did put in some great crosses.

We then need to get past two very average teams in Villa and Sunderland. Then it’s City. We could have Alexis back by then. Rested and raring to go.

So we might limp our way to January.

I’d be going for a defensive midfielder and the Polish chap would be hot on my radar. Then I’d be looking at a centre forward with power and brutality to come in and shake up that front line.

Also, if I was Wenger, I’d be sitting in with Shad and Bouldy and I’d be asking them what the fuck is going wrong and how can we stop the rot.

… they’d give it straight and I’d take it on board and do what they recommend. Which would hopefully be a smarter approach to rotation and some strategically guided rest time over Christmas.

We can’t let this season slip. December is of major importance. Let’s make it happen. Let’s pull it together. Let’s come out of this season with something more major than a big fat excuse.

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  1. Emiratesstroller

    I will follow similar diagnosis for Gibbs, Ox and Ramsey sometime today, but what is emerging are players within squad who are not just injury prone but clearly unfit for purpose and therefore adding to the performance strain on rest of squad because they are being overplayed.

    Statistically Walcott is averaging during his career with us 6 full games a season in EPL and Wilshire just 10, although in last three seasons Walcott’s contribution is 3 full games per season.

  2. TheBayingMob

    I do the gym a lot, I would never touch steroids but I’ve seen some quite outstanding results from people doing it. Reason I wouldn’t do it is the downside after you come off them, it’s really sad.

    Flab squad. A lot of midriff fat, huge saggy man titties. Really horrible that make the short term gains, while gratifying, completely nonsensical. Also all those shoulder and arms tats people get when they get huge also look very poor when the flab sets in. It’s almost impossible to reverse; but the pressures in the top level of sport must make it beyond difficult to ignore, especially when so many others are doing it and get away with it.

    If you dig into just a little bit, you will get a huge amount of opinion that performancing enhancing drugs should be allowed and in fact, if moderated and used correctly will not cause long term ill effects; there will always be a risk though.

    Personally, I’d be more inclined to watch athletics if I thought Usain Bolt’t heart could explode at any moment during the 200m … it would be close to watching the lions maim the Christians back in the day 😉

  3. Leedsgunner

    Emirates

    The damning question is this. If you as an intelligent lay person (I’m assuming you don’t work in a football related field, apologies if you do) can do this and see it, why aren’t the club doing it?

    If they are doing it, why isn’t the CEO pulling the manager aside and reading him the riot act for reward so many lucrative contracts to crocks upon crocks?

  4. Dissenter

    Chambers is one the most laughable transfers we’ve ever made. I expect some flax for this comment but I really do not care.
    Contrast Chambers to young English talent like Dele Ali and you’ll realize that Southampton mugged us in broad day light.

    He’s an average player at best who will thrive on the bench at Swansea.

  5. TheBayingMob

    To some degree, injuries are a result of just luck.

    I would say the NFL probably lead the world in sports science wrt injury, they are also steroid pumped freakzoids so if anyone would know how to stop injuries they would; I’ve been watching the NFL for almost 30 years and I’ve never known quite so many injuries as they have today (or maybe I just wasn’t really paying attention as much to that side of things)

    These players are massive in statue. Often in excess of 6′ in height and 200lbs in weight. They’ve been dropping like flies. Sometimes injuries just happen.

    The question for me comes back to the wage bill and why Wenger has rewarded so many crocks and substandard players with long, long term contracts on multi million pound deals.

    It is absolutely the main reason why he won’t move in the transfer market, he has done his bollocks on the wage bill already.

    He simply has no room for maneuver. the maybe money in the bank for the xfer of registrations, but what about the wages? That’s a longer term issue as the xfer cost can be written down in amortization over the length of the contract. Wages are a weekly affair.

    Again I ask, why no one takes Wenger to task on the simply massive wage bill the shuddering lack of depth in his squad is astounding. We will see another Kallstrom before Wenger addresses any real and glaring problems.

  6. PieAFC

    Different season yet again the same repeat scenarios!!

    Why hasn’t Wenger called back from loan some of our at least decent youngsters sent out and called them back? Our squad is a fucking joke. That GeoffArsenal on twitter, that’ the masses that keep this idiot in a job.

  7. PieAFC

    Same weak players every year.

    Ranieri known as the tinker man, Leicester have played the same 11 bar a few here and there all season at that intensity and how they coping?

    Funny that.

  8. Dissenter

    “Statistically Walcott is averaging during his career with us 6 full games a season in EPL and Wilshire just 10, although in last three seasons Walcott’s contribution is 3 full games per season”

    That’s a damning statistic but never mind he was cheaper than bringing in a similar player who’s more healthy. At least that’s what the Wenger disciples said at the time.

    We resigned a crock with a 6 game a season history on a £140k weekly five year salary to save money on a proper player.
    The pattern with Theo is that he pleads for time when he’s just returned back from injury and will encourage the crowd to clap him out when he’s bad a shifty game only to bet crocked when he looks like he’s about to really take off.

  9. Bamford10

    Giroud failed to register a shot on target against Norwich, and he has taken just four shots in his last three games, according to MyArsenalBlog.

    Pathetic.

  10. Rhys Jaggar

    Well, if you believe the Press (very dodgy thing to do but there we are), Arsenal will only have Welbeck, Coquelin and possibly Cazorla out come New Years’ Day. Assuming they don’t line up another round of injuries in the next month…..

    So if the side can stay in the EPL running until January 1st, they should have a raring-to-go fit squad for the 2016 part of the season.

    The test is grinding out results with the available squad. That’s an essential part of any title winning team’s credentials….winning playing at less than full tilt and with a less than full squad.

    If Sam Allardyce can grind out two wins back-to-back with a Sunderland squad, then Arsenal have no excuses with theirs…….or is the £70-100m of squad costs for the ‘bottom 17’ in the 25 man squad incapable of competing with the £70m totality of the Sunderland squad??

    Time for Giroud to score some goals. Time for Koscielny and Flamini to be leaders. Time for the defence to shut up shop. Time for Chambers to show the fans why Wenger bought him. Time for AOC and Ramsey to earn their wages not as luxuries but as hardened professionals helping the squad when needed. Time for Campbell to step up to the plate. Time for Gibbs to put in mature performances wherever needed.

    And most of all, time for Ozil to translate his form this season into leading the team through this difficult month. Lead his younger players not by shouting and screaming, but by encouraging, leading by example, helping on the training ground and bringing all his experiences from the World Cup, Real Madrid and elsewhere to bear…..everyone knows he’s the best creative player in the EPL right now. Now Arsenal need him to be a leader as well……….

  11. Dissenter

    The baying mob,
    The bane of the NFL is the exponential increase in super fast and strong athletic players.
    The force of the tackle and the recklessness of those tackles means players are going to rip off tendons and ligaments easily. There’s little control relative to say Rugby.

  12. Carts

    Cesc

    It’s funny you mention that, cos I remember when Mayweather was campaigning for proper drug testing back in 2011 when a fight between he and Pac was being pushed. Pac’s response, via Roach, was that he was terrified or needles? really, bruh! He then went on to get KO’d by Marquez and lost (controversially) to Bradley.

    A lot of MMA fighters, who claimed that without TRT (Testosterone replacement therapy) they’d be rendered a vegetable, are now fighting without TRT (with mixed result). Those who were on TRT, were on it it cos of steroid abuse in the past.

  13. Carts

    Cesc

    The UFC and Boxing (NSAC) have also banned IV rehydration…bit odd but now a lot of fighter are cutting weight earlier in camps as opposed to dropping a dozen pound in fight week.

  14. Leedsgunner

    “So if the side can stay in the EPL running until January 1st, they should have a raring-to-go fit squad for the 2016 part of the season.”

    This has happened a few times now… it’s as if Wenger deliberates chooses to run his competitive calendar differently than everyone else BUT then brings up the fact that his team is best on form in Europe or the in the league based on the calendar year… as if that should mean something.

    It’s as if he delights on being difficult snd contain just because he can and he knows the Board will back him.

  15. Bamford10

    Could we produce a short list of factors that likely contribute to our injury woes? I’m still waking up here, but I can think of four:

    1. poor/outdated conditioning regimen
    2. rushing players back after injury, causing re-injury
    3. playing vulnerable players when they should be rested (Ramsey, Alexis)
    4. signing/keeping less athletic, injury-prone players

    #2 and #3 are driven by a lack of squad depth/quality; all four are driven by Wenger.

  16. Carts

    TheBayingMob

    I, too, frequent the gym, on an 1 on, 1 off basis. And for a while now I’ve been very suspicious of a few gym goers as well as these esteemed fitness celeb (on YT and Instagram). I mean, a lot of these body builder will sell cookie-cutter programmes for £50 advising on routines that will increase you strength and size, but won’t get you walking around at <10% BF.

    Yes genetic plays a bigger part in aesthetics than some would like to believe, as my gym partner is testament to this and even he'll tell you…he isn't a sweet potatoes/chicken/asparagus eating motherfucker! But his work ethic is ridiculous.

    People never tell you about cutting agent such as Anavar, that'll get you looking like Brad Pitt (in Fight Club) in 10 weeks. Yet you're supposed to believe that high rep, medium weights is the key. Then you have people who deliberately grey the area. In their minds, they think everyone is a novice who associates injecting juice into your ass cheek not being the same as taking orals.

    I get atrial flutter every so often (tolerable) but even if that wasn't the case, I'd never touch steroid unless prescribed by a Dr for genuine reasons.

  17. TheBayingMob

    Dissenter,

    Ye I suppose, the ban on the leading head tackle leading to a lot of lower leg tackling has also had an impact I suppose. There have been a lot of muscle strains as well (hamstrings and the like, or at least it seems more than in recent seasons but maybe I’m just being more sensitive to it)

  18. Bamford10

    Koscielny is apparently a possibility for this weekend, despite his hip injury. This is likely an example of #2 or #3 above.

  19. London Gunner

    I don’t think its quite fair to suggest Pac is a drugs cheat. Smacks of pointing a finger at the foreigner. For all we know Mayweather was a drug cheat. Fact is we have literally no evidence to prove this.

    Pac was a lot more physical fighter and took more punishment than Mayweather its quite obvious why Pac’s performance declined rapidly its an unfortunate of the human condition e.g. ageing.

    You might think how do these players decline at the grand old age of 30, but you have to factor in these athletes have been training/fighting/exercising intensively from childhood.. If you factor in the trauma they have put their body through in those years you can quite clearly understand why they burn out.

  20. DUIFG

    Giroud failed to register a shot on target against Norwich, and he has taken just four shots in his last three games, according to MyArsenalBlog. Pathetic.

    suprising?? honestly Akpom, hell even sanogo would do better than that.

    Dont know whyt we loaned out akpom when we knew he could well be quirte an important 3rd striking option

  21. Bamford10

    Reports of anti-semitic and racist behavior from Arsenal fans at Carrow Road. Club is looking into it apparently.

  22. DUIFG

    You’re right, it’s not surprising. But it’s pathetic all the same.

    it stems from the fact he cant create for himself, he has to get laid on. thats why he can opnly score when we are playing well, cant get us out of a hole

  23. Leedsgunner

    DUIFG

    The sad truth is that in Özil Giroud has the dream player to work with… Mess provides with so many chances laid on for him. Unfortunately for Mesut and for AFC Giroud just isn’t clinical. How depressing it must be for Mesut… 🙁

  24. Cesc Appeal

    Carts

    I remember that, ‘I’m scared of needles,’ isn’t that a tattoo on your arm Pac? ‘I’m afraid it will suck out my powers,’ are you four years old?

    As you say, after that storm, he became a worse fighter I think, didn’t have that explosive power any more, got KO’d by Marquez, took some nobody fights in Rios and Algieri then got taken to the school of boxing by Mayweather.

    I like Floyd as a boxer, and to be fair to him, he showed that Twitter post he had put up in 2010 or 2011 or something where he said exactly how a Mayweather v Pacquiao fight would go, how he would win and then how everyone would say he ran/was a coward.

    Fact was in that fight, he outclassed Pacquiao, Pacquiao fights great, but Mayweather is a great fighter…thanks Carl Weathers.

  25. London Gunner

    Carts

    I’m an ex personal trainer. Would say about 50/50 split at my gym between juiceers and natties.

    I pretty much know that a natty’s genetic potential is his height minus 100.
    So if you are 180 cm tall minus 100 and you get 80 kg at 5 percent body fat.
    Most average gym rats are around 15 percent in body fat so add 10 percent.
    You get around 193 percent at 15 percent body fat after at the very least half a decade of lifting.

    So that’s 5’11 at 13.11 at 15 percent body fat.
    Basically any one at 5’11 or below is 200 ripped even 190/180 is probably on roids

  26. London Gunner

    Oh and another thing is the most natties who claim they are 200/190/180 ripped who are genuine natties often are massively underrating their body fat level.

    I routinely used to see dedicated/intelligent gym goers with impressive figures quoting they were 10 percent BF when they were actually around 15 percent.

    Depending on build and where you hold your fat you can actually look quite ripped at 15 BF.

    Oh and those men health models and other fitness models with “natural” physiques because of “EPIC” genetics are most often then not simple roid users. Not saying you can’t attain that figure or close to it natty but you can’t hold it year round as soon as you dip below 10 percent bf your body starts eating all that lovely muscle up. Basically you can’t conserve that without some nice pharmaceuticals. That’s the reason natties cut and bulk to preserve muscle and get lean for certain periods. Though I would say you can maintain around 12 percent level and 10 percent if you are genetically gifted.

  27. Carts

    London

    I like Pac and liked him since he pounded the burrito out of my boy Barrera. But his reasoning, as Cesc highlighted, was pony! Funny thing is that I think back in 2011 circa was his best chance at beating Mayweather. Mayweather hasn’t floored anyone since Ortiz, and even then it was a bit controversial but legit.

    he took a few flakey fights against same-promoter fighters (under Arum) and really didn’t impress much or set PPV alight. But he’s humble and I like him for that. Rumour has it he might fight Crawford or Khan.

  28. Dream10

    London

    Some athletes are unbelievable. Some NBA players are 6ft4 (1.93m) and 88kg with under 10% body fat. Unreal

  29. Carts

    London

    Solid post there, bruh.

    So to put that into context: I’m 190cm tall, weight about 16 stone (no one, even the Dr believe this), 34″ jeans XL t-shirt. Flat stomach, fadey 4-pack!

    I agree with you on the BF prediction thing. A lot of people undershoot their BF by quite a bit. I’d say that I’m around 15% easily (if not a couple more). The all year-rounders are almost certainly on juice (each to their own). And like I said earlier fat stripper are the new in thing. I saw this when I went Ibiza last year.

    These guys were weirdly shredded but had no quads, and no back. Shit looked odd, to say the least!

  30. Redtruth

    Rhys Jaggar
    “Time for Giroud to score some goals. Time for Koscielny and Flamini to be leaders. Time for the defence to shut up shop. Time for Chambers to show the fans why Wenger bought him. Time for AOC and Ramsey to earn their wages not as luxuries but as hardened professionals helping the squad when needed. Time for Campbell to step up to the plate. Time for Gibbs to put in mature performances wherever needed
    And most of all, time for Ozil to translate his form this season into leading the team through this difficult month.”

    TIME FOR WENGER TO GET SACKED!!

  31. Cesc Appeal

    Carts

    I agree.

    I like Pacquiao, very humble guy but just personally, I do think he was doing something dodgy, whether utterly illegal or one of those borderline things I don’t know, One of his training partners said something about him taking some kind of insulin based enhancer? I think.

    I mean, if you believed you would knock the stuffing out of Mayweather, and you knew you were going to get $100 Million, why would you not take a few random blood tests throughout your camp?

    First it was needles, then it was sucking out his power, then it was not giving Mayweather everything he wanted…which is crap because when they did fight he acquiesced to literally every single one of Mayweather’s demands.

  32. DUIFG

    DUIFGThe sad truth is that in Özil Giroud has the dream player to work with… Mess provides with so many chances laid on for him. Unfortunately for Mesut and for AFC Giroud just isn’t clinical. How depressing it must be for Mesut… 🙁

    exactly leeds, you forgot to mention he is also playing with cazorla who has the most assists in the league since 2011.

    people making out Giroud record is decent, when you factor in the creativity he has had behind him its really poor.

  33. Steveyg87

    Feel so fucking meh about Arsenal these days. everyone just coming with the same shit day in, day out.. its beyond a farce. Wenger has taken the joy out of supporting the gunners with his ” I know better than you” outlook.

  34. Carts

    Cesc

    That’s a good point. Cos if they had fought when it was first being suggested both would’ve cleaned up – win or lose.

    It may have been 55%-45% in favour of Mayweather purely cos he was unbeaten and the PPV king, but it’s fair to say they would’ve been paid more!

    I think Pac knew that Mayweather was his last big pay day, this time round – especially after his tax issue back in the Philippines – which are allegedly motivated by his political aspirations – so he had no choice but to succumb to the demands.

  35. Leedsgunner

    “These guys were weirdly shredded but had no quads, and no back. Shit looked odd, to say the least!”

    To look good but what’s the point?

    No power or reality behind it. Glorified cardboard cut outs…. each to their own but in the end if you take short cuts it comes to bite you in the proverbial. Not worth it to throw your good health away… ironically. Love working out, and feeling good and even better because I did it through honest graft 😉

    That’s how I see it anyhow.

  36. Cesc Appeal

    Carts

    Yeah, I had read that his political aspirations were costing big time, so a big fight purse, biggest in history is a nice little buffer 😉

    It’s the same story though in every Mayweather fight, I am a fan of Floyd, I was most nervous when he fought Canelo, because the guy seemed like a young bull and he was 15-16 years Mayweather’s junior, but he got schooled.

    Ortiz said he would catch him, Guerrero said he would catch him, Mosley, Maidana said the same, Cotto, Hatton, Pacquiao, they all say it, but they can’t do it. Mayweather is a bit like Ozil I think, he makes it look all so effortless, he never panics, but his brain is as a fast as those jabs and that overhand right, he works the ring like no one else and that shoulder roll is fantastic…I just think, they get in there with him and after a few rounds their confidence goes, they realise you need to be on it and have a different game plan every single round.

  37. Leedsgunner

    “Yes we really tried to sign Kingsley Coman in the summer of 2014,” Wenger confirmed to beIN sports via ​Goal. “The transfer was almost completed, but he preferred Juventus.”

    Who cares? These stories are so pathetic and dull. Does he want a medal for trying?

  38. Carts

    London

    Spot on.

    Self gratification and vanity is a lethal mix that should come with a government health warning.

    Who do we blame for this desire to look like an adonis or have a grossly inflated booty. Cos let’s face it, it’s not YT or Instagram, as they’re only a platform. It’s actually us; we’re the creators of this all. And now people are suffering from illusions of grandeur when really they’re no different to us.

    So much so that you’ve now got non-gym goers claiming that if you simply go to the gym to stay fit and healthy, you’re insecure. O_o

    World’s gone mad.

  39. Jim

    Sorry but have to interject regarding this simplistic reasoning that because Jose “ran his players into the ground” last season that 6 months later they are now suffering and their bad form is the proof. My God people will say almost anything to make a point. So lets go back in time and say he should have rested Cesc for at least 5 fames last year then that would be the difference. Think about that logic, or don’t as it’s obvious some need to appear smarter than they actually are.

  40. Cesc Appeal

    Why does he keep coming out with the ‘we almost signed’ bollocks.

    If anything, if you needed any more evidence, its more of an indication that the way we go about transfers is totally wrong.

    Wenger has a list as long as your arm of players he wanted and ‘admired’ yet never got. Because he doesn’t pull the trigger, doesn’t correspond to the market and will only adhere to the situation he has envisaged in his head, what is right to him.

    Sooner this man leaves…

  41. Carts

    Cesc

    Mayweather is boxing. Literally. Even when I watch him I feel as though I could connect with his jaw and drop him, and I’m not even of the amateur level. Yet allllll these boxers who endure a 10 week camp can’t get anywhere near him…though De La Hoya, Castillo and Maidana did come close.

    The guy schooled the hell out of Canelo, Guerrero, Berto, Marquez and Cotto that it wasn’t even close. He’s a legend anyway you cut that cake. And he’s filthy rich!

  42. Leedsgunner

    “So much so that you’ve now got non-gym goers claiming that if you simply go to the gym to stay fit and healthy, you’re insecure. O_o”

    To stay fit and healthy is exactly why I go… I go for me, the best and the only reason one should go in my opinion… 🙂

  43. Cesc Appeal

    Carts

    Agree.

    That is probably the one serious blotch of his career, Castillo number one, though he went on to beat him comfortably in their second meeting.

    I remember Hatton was the first time I seriously paid attention to Mayweather because I thought Hatton was going to ruin him, get inside and his power would just make Mayweather fold. But I remember being sat there at 4am and just thinking, s**t this guy is fast, seriously fast, his defence as well, incredible.

    Plus, he isn’t a pussy like people make out, I think of those two big bangers Mosley dropped on him, and for a guy who hasn’t really ever needed to go into survival mode or get on his bike in his career, he just instinctively knew what to do, because he’s been boxing since he was a toddler!

  44. London Gunner

    Carts

    Yeah your figures are good and also realistic by the sound of it.
    There is obviously genetic variation. So I would say that’ for someone your height .

    15.8 to 16 at 15 percent body fat.
    Thing is the more muscle mass you have the more lean you will look at 15 percent body fat.

    I have never understood why people don’t work back out, back completes a figure it ties everything in and in my opinion makes one look like a total don.

  45. Carts

    Hahaha…Coman. I actually remember this cos when he went to Juventus I instantly credited Pogba with being the guy who swayed him.

    But to come out and say it is so pointless. Yeah, we get it, you tried to sign a kid who’d probably be out on loan to Bordeaux and/or rotting in the reserves. Ooooh big deal.

  46. Mr J

    From Arsenal Truth:

    One has to laugh at Arsenal’s predicament, the sheer predictability of it. Injuries are piling up, and it’s all Wenger’s fault, not just because his squad is too reliant on injured veterans as backup but because he perpetually runs key individuals into the ground.

    Alexis Sanchez suffered physically in the second half of last season, and Arsenal’s form suffered because of it. Lessons learned? Not likely. Without a break for nigh-on two years, Sanchez has been physically shattered by Wenger and finally broke down yesterday evening at Norwich – his injury clearly a result of accumulated fatigue.

    But when poor Sanchez is fit again, you can bet Wenger will shove him straight back in the line-up and risk the vicious circle that now sees teammate Laurent Koscielny continually on the treatment table. He did the same with Aaron Ramsey too, endangering a player he admitted was in the “red zone” – it backfired.

    Not only are key players perpetually damaged by Wenger’s refusal to rest them, many of Arsenal’s woes are largely predicated on the ludicrous reliance on the ‘walking dead’ aka Mikel Arteta, Mattieu Flamini and Tomas Rosicky, and notoriously unreliable treatment table dwellers Danny Welbeck and Jack Wilshere.

    This puts an unnecessarily weak first team squad under further strain.

    However, even if the squad was fully fit, I doubt Wenger would rest Sanchez or Ozil. Over the years, Thierry Henry, RvP and Cesc Fabregas all suffered from Wenger’s perpetual overreliance on them. Flogged like carthorses, they all ended their careers at Arsenal frequently injured.

    Theo Walcott also needs to be managed carefully. Prone to innumerable muscle strains, dopey Wenger threw him onto the pitch on a freezing cold Carling Cup night without so much as a warm up. Such idiocy is scarcely believable.

    As Dutch fitness coach Raymond Verheijen suggests: “The problem in football is that most people do not see the bigger picture. They are only thinking about the last result and the next game.”

    Quite right too. However, in Wenger’s case, there is an ugly contradiction at play. He’s happy to gamble with the players’ health – because he clearly doesn’t believe in the squad as a whole, yet at the same time leaves £200m sitting in the bank while complaining about the amount of money other clubs have to spend.

    That clearly tells me there is an agenda. Wenger knows the squad is weak, yet refuses to use the resources at his disposal to strengthen, preferring to manipulate the fans and media by creating excuses in order to shield himself from failure in order to preserve his reputation (and acceptance of his ‘fourth place trophy’ mantra).

    At yesterday’s post-match press conference, arrogant Wenger yet again reverted to excuse-making mode. Struggling to accept he’d been found out, the video demonstrates the twitching dictator’s desperation to control the narrative.

    https://youtu.be/-_j6Yus25O4

    Is the football landscape changing? I have always said that money is the key to getting you into a position to challenge for trophies, but it’s the management of players (or lack of it) that delivers consistent success, not the players themselves. Chelsea and Man Utd (recently), and Arsenal (perpetually) are all proof of that.

    Better, younger managers are overtaking Wenger with new ideas, a greater hunger and more flexible philosophies. Unlike Wenger, Klopp is not stupid – Philippe Coutinho was protected at Anfield yesterday, the German sees the bigger picture.

    Under Klopp, Liverpool can be a title challenging force within three seasons and Pochettino is doing a brilliant job at Spurs who have the youngest squad in the Premier League. Infamous chokers, Tottenham have a physicality and steeliness about them that enables consistency and bodes very well for the future – but we have to be mindful that they too benefit from a weak league and have their own weaknesses.

    That Leicester have lost 1 in 14 games this season pays testament to how weak the Premier League is. Don’t get me wrong, The Foxes have done brilliantly and Jamie Vardy, in particular, deserves every credit.

    On current form, Leicester, Spurs and Liverpool will finish in the top four and Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal out of it. What are the odds of that? Astronomical I’d wager. Are you brave enough to put a fiver on it? I’m not – I don’t trust this league enough to bet on anything, but I’d love to see it happen.

  47. Carts

    Redtruth

    Anavar isn’t used as a bulking agent. It’s more a fat stripper and something to increase strength hence why it’s prescribed to people who suffer from chronic alcoholism.

    HGH is crazy, don’t think I’ve read too much into T3 – unless I kow it by another name.

  48. Carts

    London

    Good point there, again. More muscle mass will definitely make one look leaner even with a double digit BF.

    I consider skipping back day just as bad as skipping legs. The new phenomenon is not working rear delt or back, but focusing way too much on chest and front delts whereby lifters start experiencing this weird hunch, curved, posture. Not call!

    Leeds

    That the mantra I live by. Anything else is an extra positive!

  49. Emiratesstroller

    The question which Arsenal’s management needs to answer is whether the
    fitness situation of players like Wilshire,Walcott, Ox and Gibbs is likely to
    improve with passage of time.

    Last year we recruited a Fitness Coach who came with first class credentials. Yet despite his arrival our injury record has not really improved.

    In the case of Walcott, Wilshire and Ox I don’t think frankly that it will improve. Walcott for example was not overplayed last season and did not complete a single league game. This season he shared the striker role with Giroud,
    but after 2 months and only 2 full games in EPL he suffered yet again a hamstring injury.

    The question you need to ask is why Arsenal decided to renew his contract and increase his salary when we get such a poor return for our investment. I
    don’t believe that any other major club in EPL or elsewhere would persist in
    keeping such a player with his record.

    Let’s be clear his transfer fee potential is going to be low even if we let him go
    because most sane clubs will balance risk of his performance with the wage cost.

  50. Wallace

    Cesc Appeal

    I’m fine with Theo, Giroud & Welbeck as our options. last month with Theo leading the line and Giroud as impact sub showed how effective it could be. the gamble was the first two staying fit until Welbeck returned. almost made it, but i think the last two games the points dropped are on Wenger.

  51. vicky

    Calum Chambers played 90 minutes as a defensive midfielder for Arsenal’s under-21s last night and his performance impressed manager Steve Gatting.

    Desperately short of options in the centre of the park due to the absence of Mikel Arteta, Francis Coquelin, Santi Cazorla and Jack Wilshere, Arsene Wenger appears to be grooming the 20-year-old for a potential run out in the position during December.

    Speaking to Arsenal Player after the 2-1 win at the The Amex, Gatting played up Chambers’ versatility: “It was great for the lads to play with him [Chambers].

    Calum Chambers played 90 minutes as a defensive midfielder for Arsenal’s under-21s last night and his performance impressed manager Steve Gatting.

    Desperately short of options in the centre of the park due to the absence of Mikel Arteta, Francis Coquelin, Santi Cazorla and Jack Wilshere, Arsene Wenger appears to be grooming the 20-year-old for a potential run out in the position during December

    “I think it was good for Calum to get 90 minutes under his belt and for such a young lad he has got a lot of experience and tonight I thought he was excellent.

    “The boss has seen him play several positions and it is handy for the first team to have a player like Calum. He can perhaps play in central defence, at right back and in midfield and he gives the boss options and that is good for Calum to play in different options.”

  52. Relieable sauce

    58 full games for Wally in 10 years!!!
    …Wow!

    Epic mismanagement and thats before he got his new 5 year £130k p/w deal.

    You have to tip your hat and laugh at the mugs paying his wages.

  53. Cesc Appeal

    Wallace

    I mean, it is a bit of a silly gamble though. Welbeck he knew was crocked with 7 days to go in the window, so as you say that means everything on those other two.

    One is a 26 year old who has never played ST, has wanted to, but Wenger never fancied him there. Sick note as well, ES posted some stats earlier that are truly shocking. I think he said Walcott averages 3 full games for us a season…WTF!

    The other is Giroud, decent, solid ST, not great though.

    Again, for me, my biggest, biggest problem with Wenger is that he builds is house on sand every single season, you can see this coming from a mile off and he walks slap bang into it every single season then acts shocked, or as if no one is to blame ‘it’s just one of those things’

    It isn’t.

    Sanchez gone is on Wenger, Coq’s injury isn’t his fault but him being the only CDM is and banking on Arteta’s was brutally exposed in that same game, a squad one third sick note is on Wenger, not buying the necessary ST for what will be four years come the summer is on Wenger.

    I don’t know, I don’t get it. That’s the thing, I don’t understand what he’s trying to do, why he takes the hardest road.

    Seriously now, just straight up question, say we spent our £80 Million in the summer, say we went out and got Cech, Schneiderlin/Xhaka and Aubameyang…how much of a stranglehold do you think we’d have on this league? The way it’s shaped up?

    We’re still in it, because of how crap everyone around us is, that wasn’t part of any plan, that is fluke, welcome fluke, but fluke nonetheless.

  54. Phlo

    Somebody at the club should get wenger to start playing Fifa in manager mode and simulate what would happen if he had bought all the players her could have and then he could see how important squad rotation and have at least 3 quality players per position to challenge on all fronts……..there is something seriously wrong with that old man, seems he thrives on “everyone against him” he’s getting recently, he has this whole F*ck you attitude “players are meant to play not rested as you media say”

  55. Carts

    Cesc

    LOL when Hatton faceplanted the corner? Shit was funny, I can’t lie. I was a Hatton Stan at one stage as well.

    But yeah, above all else, Mayweather was very intelligent and prepared.

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    Vicky

    You know shit got real when we start seriously looking into the possibility of playing Chambers DM. I mean, it didn’t take Mystic Meg to envisage what is happening. 90% of us said this would happen, 30 seconds after the transfer window closed.

  57. TitsMcGee

    That clearly tells me there is an agenda. Wenger knows the squad is weak, yet refuses to use the resources at his disposal to strengthen, preferring to manipulate the fans and media by creating excuses in order to shield himself from failure in order to preserve his reputation (and acceptance of his ‘fourth place trophy’ mantra).”

    Spot on.

  58. TitsMcGee

    At this point. Anyone defending Wenger is just defending him for the sake of it.

    Unless you believe in 10 year coincidences and such lol

  59. vicky

    Carts

    It’s sickening , isn’t it ? For a club which “can buy any player except Messi and Ronaldo” to be looking at a 4th choice CB/3rd choice RB to fulfill the gap at a crucial position like defensive midfielder is baffling. We have already lost 5 points since Coq’s departure. I bet the number could rise to somewhere close to 10 if Coq is out for 2 months and would probably be the difference between winning the league and finishing 3rd/4th. Flamini has played okayish though. I would not start with Chambers as yet .

  60. Relieable sauce

    Carts

    ES posted TWs numbers earlier, found it hard to believe myself.

    Top bantz from Arsene, and more to come when JW re-signs I imagine.

  61. Carts

    Vicky

    5 points already? I’m so out of the loop it’s not funny. I actually come to LG for match day reviews cos watching us is quite painful most times.

    I bet we’ve got horse placenta wrapped around Coq’s knee while he sleeps in a hyperbaric chamber with a supply of eucalyptus infused oxygen supply and Vicks on his chest.

    We might as well play Flamini until he crumble cos playing Chambers there would be comedy

  62. Leedsgunner

    vicky

    “It’s sickening , isn’t it ? For a club which “can buy any player except Messi and Ronaldo” to be looking at a 4th choice CB/3rd choice RB to fulfill the gap at a crucial position like defensive midfielder is baffling.”

    Spot on.

    Just another example of NOT BAD LUCK but POOR MAN MANAGEMENT.

    The thing is, if we miss out the league title by say let’s say 10 points and it is because as you have suggested, the lack of Coquelin… and we limped into 4th place the usual apologists will just shrug their shoulders and say…

    “You’ve got to admit considering how ravaged we have been by injuries this — it’s amazing and marvellous that Wenger has achieved Champion’s League football at all…”

    That’s why just for once I would love a club like Leicester to keep going and win the title (unlikely I know) Although even then I’m sure Wenger will find a way to keep a straight face and blame something or somebody else and still maintain that we cannot compete. If we cannot because of injuries, he can only look at himself to blame… (even though we won’t.)

  63. Leedsgunner

    “Seriously now, just straight up question, say we spent our £80 Million in the summer, say we went out and got Cech, Schneiderlin/Xhaka and Aubameyang…how much of a stranglehold do you think we’d have on this league? The way it’s shaped up?”

    Not even worth considering. Wenger and Krone are in charge. Never would happen… sadly.

  64. Wallace

    Cesc Appeal

    “Seriously now, just straight up question, say we spent our £80 Million in the summer, say we went out and got Cech, Schneiderlin/Xhaka and Aubameyang…how much of a stranglehold do you think we’d have on this league? The way it’s shaped up?”

    the DM situation might cost us between now and January, or Flamini/Chambers might cover it well enough that we don’t drop points. another striker this last 3 weeks would definitely have helped. no question. i’d have brought Alexis inside once Theo went down, but the injuries to Ramsey and the Ox meant that wasn’t possible….I think we’re the 2nd best side in the league after Man City. injuries have hampered/are hampering both of us, otherwise i think we’d both be 4/5pts clear of the chasing pack.

  65. Danish Gooner

    Pedro i have to disagree on this one,normally i am very much in line with what you are saying but i feel you are contradicting yourself a bit.You stated in an earlier piece that our squad is waver thin and i seem to recall you saying Wenger doesnt trust the youth then i say if you want Arsenal to secure three points you can only do this by playing the strongest eleven as against Manure where we played power football of a very high calibre but as soon as one of them are missing especially Walcott and Le Coq we struggle massively and it doesnt matter how we replace them because at the moment there are noone in the squad to do thier job.Oxlade is not good or consistent enough and Matty might do one or two games and then he is broken too and forget Arteta he is our new Diaby together with “sicknote” Rosicky.

  66. Danish Gooner

    With a further 100 mil coming in in 2016 our Transfer kitty could reach a staggering 300 mil.we could buy Neymar and Suarez and still have change,laughable and dont get me started on the dross we could get money for,it is estimated that in 2020 Kroenkes kitty will be 450 mil pounds if wenger stops buying.

  67. Carts

    Leeds

    I can already hear Ty – while letting that Wenger Juice run down the back of his throat – say “b…b…but if not for the injuries; stop being a doomer; no point moaning, let’s move forward!”

  68. DUIFG

    playing half decent for the u21 in a position means almost nothing when playing in the prem unfortunately.

    as bad as flamini is hes probbaly less of a calamity than chambers in the middle, thats the rotten reality right now.

  69. Wallace

    but it doesn’t matter who we did or didn’t buy, if we’re carrying 6-10 injured players between now and the end of the season we aren’t winning shit.

  70. DUIFG

    but it doesn’t matter who we did or didn’t buy, if we’re carrying 6-10 injured players between now and the end of the season we aren’t winning shit.

    correct, but it cant be forgotten that ewverybody said it was more than liely coq will break down and then we only had turn options, slippin in shcneid, wenyama, ki that sporting lad would make me feel a lot more comfortable now.

  71. Leedsgunner

    In light of our injury crisis (yet again) when Wenger mentions his 30 years of coaching experience, 50 000 substitutions, 1000s of players that he’s developed and managed… someone should ask him straight up — how many of those players remained injury free for an entire season? (… say who were able to play 40 games +). I bet they would be less than 11. 🙂

    Conversely I’m sure he could name squad after squad of crocks…

  72. Wallace

    DUIFG

    but I don’t think that’s cost us yet(no Coq backup). it might in the next 3-4 weeks, but not yet. it’s the lack of options up top that’s killing us at the moment.

  73. Leedsgunner

    ” it’s the lack of options up top that’s killing us at the moment.”

    Even if this was true whose fault is that? Pray tell! We’ve been looking for a WC striker since RvP left! 🙂

  74. Cesc Appeal

    Carts

    That left hook…ouch. Then to add insult, face plant…then to add more insult, he got knocked down again, the ref called the fight and his corner threw in the towel!

    Wallace

    But, injuries always happen, it’s like I said to you during the summer, not picking a fight here, but you will recall I said don’t start talking about injuries consisting us because they always, always happen.

    Look at those stats ES posted for Walcott and Wilshere, look at the stats for Ramsey and Oxlade, Rosicky, we all know Arteta’s body has given up, we all know Gibbs is a sick note, Wenger knew Welbeck was crocked.

    So he can’t now start talking about injuries holding us back, they are, but only because he allowed it.

    All summer the more pro-Wenger fans said it’s a gamble spending, to which many of us countered, it’s even more of a gamble putting all your eggs in the ‘will develop’ and ‘will stay fit’ basket…now there’s yolk all over the road!

  75. Leedsgunner

    Carts

    “I can already hear Ty – while letting that Wenger Juice run down the back of his throat – say “b…b…but if not for the injuries; stop being a doomer; no point moaning, let’s move forward!”

    Move forward? Tell him we can’t! Our players are all broken!

    Motto of the apologists — Ignore the negatives, overemphasise the positives… never blame Wenger, the club, the board no matter what the evidence says.

  76. Cesc Appeal

    I think the bottom line is we need freshness at the club, for so many reasons, in the squad, in the manager’s role, in the boardroom.

    The way the club is being run is wrong.

    Potentially, the best thing Arsenal fans could do to instigate some sort of change is champion Usmanov, not for a take over or so he will Abromavich it, but so we can get a voice not part of the WeGaKronk tripartite into the boardroom.

  77. DUIFG

    DUIFGbut I don’t think that’s cost us yet(no Coq backup). it might in the next 3-4 weeks, but not yet. it’s the lack of options up top that’s killing us at the moment.

    yes I obviously agree that lack of decent st is killing us, its not that flam has been calamitous yet, but coq is always one of ourt top3 performers since the turn of last year. losing that will have to have had an effect, and most definitely will going forward

  78. DUIFG

    All summer the more pro-Wenger fans said it’s a gamble spending, to which many of us countered, it’s even more of a gamble putting all your eggs in the ‘will develop’ and ‘will stay fit’ basket…now there’s yolk all over the road!

    incredible thinking, competition might kill coq! said all along its preposperous to think he might play 50 straight games. its as if many want to play at a disadvantages.

    as if its more noble to win of you have done it with a dogshite st and no cover in key positions

  79. Wallace

    Cesc Appeal

    I wasn’t using the injuries as an excuse. You get them you have to deal with them. I was just hoping that the improvement on that front during the second half of last season might continue this.

  80. vicky

    Wallace

    The two goals against West Brom were down to Arteta’s ineptitude. Norwich were running through our midfield in the 2nd half which I doubt would have been the case if Coq was there. I agree a decent striker would have still won us the game but with Coq there, we don’t lose 5 points even with Giroud up top.

  81. Micheal

    Injuires are certainly hampering us. But this is not the only problem.

    To me the most serious weakness is that Wenger cannot motivate the players. Look at the lack lustre performance against Zagreb (away), WBA and Norwich – and I could go on. Too many are strolling through games with their hands in their pockets.

    It does not matter who is fit or who we buy if Wenger cannot get them up for the fight.

  82. Cesc Appeal

    Why does Wenger persist with these ‘I tried to sign’ or ‘almost signed’ whoever.

    It’s almost like he wants to pass that off as some sort of achievement, like, don’t be mad at how horrendous I am at transfers, I almost signed…

    Feels like everywhere else is refreshing, Liverpool have Klopp now, stadium expansion coming, City just partnered up with a Chinese investment firm as well as having Sheikh Mansour as majority owner, new manager likely on the way, United are United, new manager on the way, Spurs are getting strong, moving stadium and acquiring an NFL partnership…we’re just sat here, like always, same problems, same soundbites, same excuses, same arguments, same deficiencies, same manager, same feckless owner.

    If ever a club needed change, it’s us.

  83. TitsMcGee

    The real death knell for us would be Wenger going upstairs after the next 7 years.

    HE really is a cancer at this point.

  84. pliget

    London gunnerNovember 30, 2015 17:55:22
    I’m beginning to think without dein wenger would have failed

    Hear Hear. So many things at Arsenal point to a manager who doesn’t like taking the tough decisions. Players love Wenger because he doesn’t really confront them in his socialist utopia where everyone will be paid the same and will love him and everyone else because they grew up together. But do they respect him like they would Fergie, or Moaninho?

    I suspect Dein (also maybe supported by some of the older directors) kept the tough(make that all) decisions away from him and also called him out when he was being indecisive and dithering. He was lucky to inherit Bergkamp and the back 4 and to work for someone who knew what his strengths and weaknesses were and managed him properly. And, somehow, Wenger got all the credit. He was able to implement European practices and modernise the English game because that’s what Dein and the board had decided needed to be done.

    Now (well, since Dein left) he has been promoted to his level of incompetence, based on his past performance as a coach with knowledge of european markets and practices.

  85. TitsMcGee

    Someone just called in on Sky and claimed the medical staff should be fired. Almost in the same breath says that he loves Wenger and thinks he should stay.

    Mind-boggling that it’s always someone /something else’s fault to these folks. I think Jeff said it well last season. It’s like a cult following. No matter how much logic you come up with they’ll always believe in bad luck/coincidences / omens/ faith.

    They’ll never admit that Wenger is at fault because that will shatter their universe. Completely blow it to smithereens and they are petrified of that.