Would you like to see Patrick or Thierry manage Arsenal? 🇫🇷

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What a time to be alive eh?

Feels like World War 3 is brewing.

I want to kind of leave politics out of the blog and the comments. But it’s been pretty hard mustering the drive to write something without seeming trival.

Anyway,  I hope all this bullsh*t doesn’t spill over into out and out hate spewing in the UK. I also hope you all stay safe.

So what do we have on the Arsenal front?

Err, Lionel Messi… for £600k a week.

Umm, ok. I feel like the papers are trolling us.

Alexis Sanchez, to Manchester United. A team that are way off what we are squad wise, a team that play dreary football and a team in an area of the country no man from Chile should want to go for. So that’s a no go.

I mean, when the nonsense isn’t even trying…

We also have more believable chat on the radar… Mesut to be offered a new four-year deal. That’d keep him with us well into his best years. It’d also keep Bayern Munich out the picture. Strong rumours persist that Pep Guardiola wants a piece of the play-making genius in his line-up next year. Hopefully this will put paid to those stories… then we could offer the alternative, you know, Pep to take over from Arsene and manage Ozil.

Bobby Pires has been speaking to the press about the managerial issues.

‘Can I see Thierry Henry taking over from Arsene Wenger? Yes, why not?’ Pires told Omnisport.

‘He is working on his badges. He’s involved with the U19 team at Arsenal’s academy. He’s preparing himself step by step and he wants to get his badges.

‘Question is; would Arsenal want Henry? It depends on the board, the chairman.

‘I can see Henry, as well as Vieira. It’s up to the club to prepare well for the post-Arsene era. That’s crucial.’

Sounds like some conversations have been had, right?

Is this a little bit like the cable of exUnited players sticking their nose into club politics post Alex Ferguson?

For me, it’s a bit of a jump to suggest Vieira or Thierry could take over from Arsene Wenger. I know that Paddy is much admired at City for the job he’s been doing and I know that EVERYONE loves Thierry. But, doesn’t really feel like they’ve worked hard enough for a role the size of Arsenal.

… but you could say, Pep Guardiola hadn’t. Look at him. A genius of a manager.

My lingering memory of this sort of recruitment is Newcastle bringing in Alan Shearer, then him taking the team down.

Great news that Jack Wilshere is doing well behind the scenes!

‘I’m working as hard as I can to try to come back. I know what it takes because unfortunately I’ve been injured a few times in my career and I know what it takes to come back. I’m not going to rush it. I’ll make sure my body’s right and at the moment I’m feeling good.’

Great news is that he’ll come back fresh. We need some of that in the middle of the park. We also need him to come back focused on what his role is. I always feel Jack doesn’t quite understand his role in the side. I mean, it doesn’t help that he does so well for England in a favoured role… then he’s ask to play a slightly more advanced role for Arsenal, or a role that sees him out wide… which doesn’t suit his style

Anyway, the more bodies back, the better in my opinion. Hopefully we’ll see Theo, Ramsey and Tomas back in the fold as well. Not sure about Danny. Hoping that the rumours about Theo having a set back are massively untrue.

Right, I don’t have anything else to give. I’m back on a flight later today, so I’ll see you tomorrow for many more words.

HAVE A GOOD DAY x

 

328 Responses to “Would you like to see Patrick or Thierry manage Arsenal? 🇫🇷”

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  1. Louis Almeida

    “Even that much fabled Arteta-Rambo combo, wasn’t that the season with the 5-1, the 6-0 and the 6-3 humiliations ?”

    Arteta and Ramsey were not the pivot combination for any of those defeats. I think you’re being too hard on Arteta. He isn’t perfect but he helped to stabilise a lot of things after the 8-2 defeat.

    He helped to build our attacks. It’s another reason why Cazorla starts in CM now. Neither Ramsey or Coquelin can build effective attacks from deep.

  2. underrated Coq

    ” Arteta and Ramsey were not the pivot combination for any of those defeats. ”

    Arteta was our DM in every one of those defeats, which should be considered. Ramsey started from a wide position in the 6-3 defeat at City but moved back central in the second half. Didn’t help much, we were simply blown away. Fernandinho ran riot. Ramsey didn’t feature in the 6-0 and 5-1 defeats but the theme of all those humilations was conceding almost every time the opposition countered. They could just waltz though our midfield which was ‘manned’ by Arteta.

  3. Louis Almeida

    “Arteta was our DM in every one of those defeats”

    No. Arteta didn’t play in the 6-3 defeat to City. Ramsey started alongside Flamini with Wilshere on the left in that game.

    Our midfield should not be ‘manned’ by anybody. It’s a collective game and anyone is going to struggle when left exposed. Arteta is a dictator not a pure DM like Coquelin. And that’s why he’ll play better alongside someone with more industry. That’s why Ramsey-Arteta was a success. It’s the same way Cazorla lacks mobility and why he has to play alongside Coquelin.

    Have you wondered why Wenger doesn’t like the Ramsey-Coquelin pivot? It’s because neither can build play effectively. Look at what happened when Spurs pressed Cazorla. Coquelin was not utilising the ball very effectively.

  4. Sam

    Shame about Graham Rix
    Most girls look older n conceal their real age when they are attracted to someone older
    Not sure what happened to Rix if he knew, messed up his career
    Great coach though

  5. Sam

    David o’leary!

    I used to like him as arsenal legend
    Then the twat gave us hard time when he managed Leeds
    He really enjoyed beating arsenal

    F@uck him

  6. Mr B

    A young Arteta would at the least have been a good squad option in the post invincible era.

    He was a match winner for Rangers and Everton and got some crucial goals for us in his first season.

  7. Relieable Sauce

    Wenger has pinned alll his hopes on JW coming good, thats why we persist with Arteta and re-signed Flamini, and end up with a 30yo AM & recalled DM easily claiming the starting spot for their own. Both of who still have some shortfalls to their game.
    Our only other CM fit for purpose gets shunted out on the right, a – because we are short of wide players. b – he can only play the double pivot with a certain type of player…??? WTF!
    Signing this CM should be a high priority, but I get the feeling Wenger will see JW as that man and wont sign anyone significant for that role.

    Santi-JW-Arteta-Crowley?
    Thats probably enough in Wengers mind.

  8. underrated Coq

    Almeida, you’re just making up excuses for Arteta, Much as starting Mertesaker in a high defensive line is madness, Arteta playing the deep mid role is madness. Makes for a nightmarish viewing. You can throw in the ‘its all about team play’ but you’re just making the jobs of their teammates that much harder.

    ” Have you wondered why Wenger doesn’t like the Ramsey-Coquelin pivot? ”

    I don’t know how people come to this conclusion as Wenger’s never had to try this combo. We’ve rarely seen them play together? So on what basis is it that you judge their combination?

    Both Coq and Cazorla have been vastly injury-free and they’ve struck up a good combo. More of a case of- ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’.

    Also think it comes down to a question of: Who is more versatile to play the right wing? At his age, Cazorla is not hence Ramsey plays wing while Cazorla is central.

    ” Look at what happened when Spurs pressed Cazorla. Coquelin was not utilising the ball very effectively. ”

    Wasn’t Cazorla off-color though? And I have to disagree with your statement about Coq, think he was one of our better players that day.

  9. Wallace

    underrated Coq

    “I just think, if we are going for any mk II’s, better off going for a younger, stronger version of a Santi Cazorla than any version of a Mikel Arteta.”

    but the Arteta upgrade gives us the option of bringing Ramsey back inside. a new Cazorla means Ramsey stays out on the touchline quietly muttering anti-Wenger stuff to himself and the linesman.

  10. Wallace

    underrated Coq

    “” Have you wondered why Wenger doesn’t like the Ramsey-Coquelin pivot?”

    I don’t know how people come to this conclusion as Wenger’s never had to try this combo. We’ve rarely seen them play together? So on what basis is it that you judge their combination?”

    aren’t you hinting at the answer in your question?

  11. Gunner2301

    Carts

    I think what 2301 is saying is that we should be keeping our most decorated players closer, and having them actively involved in the development.

    That’s what I meant which you put so eloquently.

  12. underrated Coq

    ” but the Arteta upgrade gives us the option of bringing Ramsey back inside. a new Cazorla means Ramsey stays out on the touchline ”

    See, this is another one of those weird theories. Why can’t Ramsey play with a younger, stronger version of Cazorla? Why does it HAVE to be an Arteta? Main reason people go on and on is that Arteta is a good passer and does good distribution. You saying Cazorla isn’t good at that? Lol

  13. Louis Almeida

    “Much as starting Mertesaker in a high defensive line is madness, Arteta playing the deep mid role is madness”

    It’s not madness because 60% of the matches we played we won. If we were not winning any games then it would make sense. Listen I’m not trying to say Arteta is the answer anymore because he isn’t but just because he didn’t charge in at 100mph like Coquelin does not mean he’s not effective. Arteta is more Busqyets/Alonso in that they choose to intercept rather than go to ground to win the ball. In those earlier seasons with Arteta he would have the highest interception rate along with the best passing stats.

    Ramsey-Coquelin hasn’t needed long to see it is a failure. Look what happened first day of the season against West Ham. Neither could keep the ball or initiate attacks well and then we were just getting hit on the counter. Wenger has already said before that Cazorla helps the fluidity of our football. Arteta did the same thing.

  14. Leedsgunner

    “Leeds, to be fair, Arteta at that time looked like a clever piece of business and he’s been mostly okay. ”

    I would have to respectfully disagree.

    Signing a 29 year old for £10m on an initial 3 year contract at close to 80-90k a week is not good business… even if the player agreed to take an initial pay cut to make the deal happen. Bearing in mind he’s been injured for months at a time, definitely not a good deal for the club.

    To think Wenger refused to sanction a multi year contract for the likes of Pires, and Freddie L but gave one to Arteta makes me very sad indeed. To think he’s our captain, makes it even more tragic.

    Remember when the Arsenal captaincy was often given to our best player rather than to a bench warmer?

  15. Wallace

    underrated Coq

    “See, this is another one of those weird theories. Why can’t Ramsey play with a younger, stronger version of Cazorla? Why does it HAVE to be an Arteta? Main reason people go on and on is that Arteta is a good passer and does good distribution. You saying Cazorla isn’t good at that?”

    because the new Arteta would be a lot more defensively sound than the new Cazorla. Ramsey/Cazorla might be pretty sexy going forward, not so much when we’re defending. I love the fact we’re an attacking side, but even I’d be worried about a midfield in which Ramsey was the most defensively inclined.

  16. Honest Bill

    Ramsey just isn’t mature enough to play in the centre with any of them, even though he does have the energy and skill-set.

  17. Carts

    “Shame about Graham Rix
    Most girls look older n conceal their real age when they are attracted to someone older
    Not sure what happened to Rix if he knew, messed up his career
    Great coach though”

    That seems to be a growing trend these days too. Need to run that passport/ Driver License via DVLA/Border Agency for verification.

  18. Sam

    Lol!!! Carts

    The girl already has hand in your trousers playing with it you would ask for passport?

    Just stay one woman’s man you’ll be safe. Resist all temptations n learn how to say No

  19. underrated Coq

    ” It’s not madness because 60% of the matches we played we won. If we were not winning any games then it would make sense. ”

    Ofcourse we win a large portion of our games because we have better quality than most teams we face. The problem comes when we face a team that has comparable quality to ours. Then you’ll see weaknesses such as Mertesaker’s and Arteta’s exacerbated.

    I’m not saying Mert is sh!t, mind. If its a case of a deep lying defense, I’d take him before Kos and Gabriel.

    ” Arteta is more Busqyets/Alonso in that they choose to intercept rather than go to ground to win the ball. ”

    Man, are you serious? Arteta was more of a tackler, a bad one at that. Gave away so many fouls.

    ” In those earlier seasons with Arteta he would have the highest interception rate along with the best passing stats.”

    Arteta has averaged just 1.8 interceptions per game for Arsenal while giving away 1.6 fouls. Meanwhile Coq is averaging 3.25 interceptions giving away 1 foul per game.

    So, still think Coq is this 100mph reckless player who jumps into tackles while Arteta’s reading of the game was Busquets-level genius?

    ” Look what happened first day of the season against West Ham. ”

    So, one game? If one instance was all that was considered to judge someone or something , Coquelin would have been sent out of Arsenal long time ago. Just saying 🙂

  20. underrated Coq

    ” because the new Arteta would be a lot more defensively sound than the new Cazorla. Ramsey/Cazorla might be pretty sexy going forward, not so much when we’re defending. ”

    Yeah, fair enough, wallace.

  21. underrated Coq

    ” Signing a 29 year old for £10m on an initial 3 year contract at close to 80-90k a week is not good business…”

    Leeds, long-term? yes. Short term? At that moment in time, after that mauling at OT, Arsenal were crying out for some experienced heads who could steady the ship. Arteta and Mert made a lot of sense in that context, wouldn’t you say?

  22. Louis Almeida

    “Arteta has averaged just 1.8 interceptions per game for Arsenal while giving away 1.6 fouls. Meanwhile Coq is averaging 3.25 interceptions giving away 1 foul per game. ”

    Where have you got these stats from? In the first three seasons he was very strong for us from an interception POV if you look at WhoScored. Yes he gave away fouls, every DM does. It’s their job to break up play.

    It’s more than one game RE Coquelin. The constant criticism with him is that there are nough enough facets to his game. He has improved but still not to the level necessary.

  23. London Gunner

    Louis Almedia

    Arteta in his first season had average interception rate of 1.9
    Tackle rate of 2.2
    Fouls 1.4
    successful Dribble rate 0.7
    average match rating 7:45

    Coquelin in first season had average interception 3.7
    Tackle rate 3
    Fouls 1.4
    Dribbles 1
    average match rating 7:47

    The stats suggest you are utterly wrong in your assessment and you just have some bizarre bias against Coquelin.

    You obviously don’t have an accurate picture of arteta after claiming he was more of interceptor than Coquelin as that is clearly not true as evidenced from the stats.

    Your wrong mate utterly utterly wrong and to claim arteta is an busquets like player is complete rubbish.

  24. London Gunner

    Coquelin in his second season

    Tackles 3.4
    Inteceptions 2.8
    fouls 0.8
    dribbles 2
    average match rating 7.46

    Arteta

    Tackles 3.2
    interceptions 2.9
    fouls 2.2 !!!!!!!
    dribbles 1.1
    average match rating 7;37

    Important to note that Arteta was 29 at this point! Probably at his peak

    Whilst Coquelin is only 24 and the season is not yet over leaving possibility for improvement in these stats.

    Arteta’s stats from a comparable age drop off considerably. But I wont include them as he is only playing for EVerton so would be unfair.

  25. underrated Coq

    Almeida, Yeah, I used Stats from Whoscored only. Averaged per game over their time at Arsenal though.

    Do find this all a bit weird cause your comments are giving the sense that you considered a peaked Arteta’s performances at DM satisfactory while casting scepticism about a 24 year old, ever improving Coquelin. This when the stats and the relative team performance suggest Coq is doing a better job than Arteta ever did.